Do Your Buckets Of Black Sands Have Value? Assay For Gold At Home To Find Out!

[@MTGMitch]

Are you a miner? No. Do you have a refinery? No Do you want to watch this video at 3am? Sure why not.

[@StevenHanover]

Lot of iron in the blue bloods? @everyone is mine crafter. Kitchen witches.

[@youbannedmealready5825]

Literally 2:57am lol

[@anthonywheeler6133]

Get a cast iron flat top griddle, maybe that’d hold up better.

[@Freedom20244]

I am watching it on 10:50

[@Freedom20244]

Not the video rhe time :v

[@harryniedecken5321]

When you are finished extracting the gold, consider to refine the black sand into artisan quality iron for blacksmith use,

[@blackgriffinxx]

cast iron griddle got a few on sale from Walmart . Was not that good till i took a grinder to them. To smooth them out right. Season it and it work great now.

[@Druid_Plow]

Well you could have just done .06x38 to get your 2.28 figure, converting both figures up to tons was just extra steps. Those patterns as the slag cools is pretty cool to watch.

[@shalaska989]

Love your no bullshit approach for giving information in video form!

[@mbmmllc]

Thanks

[@zamistro]

Maybe you could make a "cookie sheet" out of the same steel that you made the cone mold from. Also, if the economy really does tank as bad as some people think it could you may find yourself out on your driveway with a broom and dustpan.

[@mbmmllc]

haha, agreed

[@genli5603]

Old griddle will do

[@earthknight60]

Cost more in paying for the energy to process it than you'd get from the metals.

[@reportofficer2524]

@zamistro Hahahahah !!! That's a really cool one !!

[@Methoverbitches]

So exactly as it has 😂

[@ZE0XE0]

The only trick may be if theres a way to separate out the gold bearing minerals more such as flotation or magnetic, or static, etc. If you could reduce those 38kg into 500g and maintain a large majority of the gold without expending too much money, it could be worth stockpiling until you have enough to process.

[@WowplayerMe]

For me the piss off value to the wife is more valuable than any precious metal recovery.

[@miker5893]

yup. two days in the shop playin with fire

[@RealLifeFinance]

Bwahahaha

[@GrandDungeonDad]

4 years later still hilarious😂😂

[@davidvilla3243]

I was told when roasting black sands to add salt to the mix---Is this a-go with this process? Thanks for the advise. DAvid out

[@captainblood9162]

I have much the same results from hard rock sulphide ore, not a lot of $ left in there, just put it through the mill again for re-grind. Always worth checking to see what your recovery is, goes to show how bloody good your table works! Enjoy your vids, cheers!

[@mbmmllc]

Great point! Thanks for watching!

[@cditzler6313]

I never really got the cupel theory until just now very well at least that i could understand explained so thank you for that

[@cditzler6313]

plus on ads I hope you get a nice payout from this one that is 41:07 long I'll just let it run out

[@kct9967]

I remember back in the day, miners would also sell their black sand, they wouldn't get much, but it did add to the year end total.

[@garydunn9418]

Gold leaves the black sand during roasting via aerosol. Yep.Thank you so much for these videos.Its just pure awesome!

[@dogodogo5891]

tell me more how did you know?

[@garydunn9418]

@@dogodogo5891 I could look up some studies if you like.I looked into various reports. In one instance , it was when the miner, tore down the flue or teared down a wall, they would find gold fuse in the material after years.

[@Goofy_ahhh_gamer]

I’m surprised that $1 cookie sheet lasted as long as it did. 😳

[@mbmmllc]

We are too! Thanks for watching our video!

[@karinanur7844]

@@mbmmllc 60 gr Gold in 1 ton of black sand it is very big persent and absolutely impossible !!!!!

[@outdoorfrenzy]

Seriously!! When I saw it hadn’t buckled and was red in color I was impressed!! I had figured he would have had to go to the cast iron.

[@madmike8325]

Right! I was expecting it to warp and be scrap after a few minutes 😂

[@jamesmurray116]

😄

[@jamesfenton7338]

The tailings make great roadway material, fines help hold a road together. I would like to get into this at some point, and I will have the best gravel road on earth.

[@robmckennie4203]

Really good job on some of those shots, especially the cooling flux, it looks like you can see the convection cells moving around

[@geraldfrank6314]

Well that proved your recovery methods are doing very well in getting the gold.

[@WestCoastGoldProspecting]

Good job Jason, this was cool to watch.

[@LanceUppercut4U]

I suspect someone has already suggested amongst all the other comments but, I would use an old cast iron barbecue plate instead of the cookie tray for any future trials. Large surface area and as durable as a pan.

[@pick4u2]

always learn from your vids, rock on brother man

[@gold99.9]

What is chapmans flux .. your mixed for malting?

[@zacharymerrill8359]

When the metal is cooling you can see the molecular shapes with all those lines that’s awesome

[@TomAnderson.]

You can use a grilling plate next time, they are built with the same material as a cooking pan and have same surface as a cookie sheet.

[@smith0426]

I haven't tried watching this sober, but this was great, well done and thank you!

[@Steveorino123]

just dont try DOING THIS with a buzz on.😂

[@garyssprinklerrepair]

This video helped answer many questions I had, thank you. 👊

[@christianpervert525]

You and the guy who mines platinum from the freeway should get together and have a beer.

[@ciph4223]

Dude MBMM and Cody’slab is the best combo

[@blueridgeocean]

I wonder does the states dot refine the dirt and dust from the freeway sweepers?

[@JakHart]

@@blueridgeocean it isn't cost effective, you have to hire people, and collection machines, and then processing machines as well. Although, right now there is a platinum/palladium shortage, so it could be worth it, eventually.

[@yaykruser]

Codyslab and The Cerro Gordo guy should make a video together extracting some silver from the mines!

[@40astmdhm3]

How dare you call Cody "that guy" I'm calling the feds

[@rexhavoc5643]

Black sand makes great traction grit. And, you can recover it with a magnet and reuse indefinitely.

[@punkinhaidmartin]

Seems to me that you could make a deal with a local cement plant to use their exhaust for roasting sulfides with heat that they're done with.

[@alyxiastarling7990]

natural magnetite is actually a steel. A steel/gold alloy probably has to get hotter to drop out the gold into the collector metal than you got it. Have you ever shot the slag with the XRF?

[@dogodogo5891]

so basically AuFe304 or Fe3AuO4 lol that's very strange but very interesting! do you got any references i would like to learn more, thanks!

[@fredflint8399]

For the amount of energy and work put into your efforts the profit margin was too low to perform this task often. I did like the video it was very informative. Thank you for your efforts. It was enough for a sub!

[@mbmmllc]

Thanks, Yes this was just an example, but you can imagine if your black sands have more gold it would be worth it :)

[@troyrice266]

You could substitute the aluminum cookie sheet for a cast iron griddle

[@mbmmllc]

Good idea, thx

[@ChatterontheWire]

everyone always asks "What are you going to do with that?", my response, "What are you, my wife?!?!" My hording is aluminum, brass and copper ingots, but same conversation across the board it looks like!

[@mbmmllc]

Yep, why don't they just leave us alone??

[@βιζζγΚιδ]

@@mbmmllc subbed for this comment lol

[@-Nick-T]

i got poor returns on my ingots.

[@RayMerrell68]

3:37 Had to laugh there. As you were cooking it I was thinking "How does he stop the tray from being eaten?" Now I know :D

[@ericjensen6501]

Hello my name is Eric from North Carolina Western I'm onto a high grade vein right now with some loose gold in a vein with different grades but very high grade now I appreciate all your videos and if you do any kind of ass saying I'd love to send you a couple samples beautiful gold

[@sparky6086]

Was totally expecting the cookie sheet to "springwarp" from the heat, throwing the sand everwhere!

[@stevewoods8116]

Serious question, the slag metal is worth something to someone right? Cost to much for you to refine though I am sure.

[@elenidemos]

Have you thought of using a black iron wok instead of the cookie tray or cast iron pan. You can move the "sand" by flicking it, kind of like stir frying & woks (black iron) tend to handle heat better then cookie trays.

[@benleysen]

we burn off sulfides at 1930 degrees in a crucible and after that without cooling the crucible down or shutting the furnace off we add flux and lead shot(packaged in ashless filter paper(be quick!)). We do this with 10 crucibles at once. We use much lower quantities though(20 gram maximum). But we have analytical scales (0.1mg) to wheigh the silver bead and we have an ICP to measure gold, platina, palladium and rhodium in the silver bead. Also sometimes there is for some reason a lot of Bi in the silver bead, so important to measure that as well. Often the Bi comes from the lead. Because the lead wheight is a lot higher than the silver wheight, even an impurity of 0.01-0.1% adds up when all the lead is absorbed or evaporated.

[@davidoberle9023]

I make the same noises your son does when i see metal being poured. Something so satisfying about it.

[@mbmmllc]

Haha, he had a good time, mostly played iPad in the truck though :)

[@dalekundtz4603]

And keeping the Mrs. happy is what it is all about..lol. stay safe. Stay healthy. Hope 2022 is a great year for you! 🍾🍾🎊🎉

[@alexnutu1125]

You got great content your the Real Parker Schnebly man way better than gold rush, cause it’s all genuine!

[@binaryblade2]

I like how it spontaneously forms veins.

[@acme663ryo]

I love that your kid is there with you.

[@mbmmllc]

He thought it was cool!

[@trevorwhat]

The "boo boo" made the video more educational. Thanks for keeping that in. Great stuff, Jason.

[@mbmmllc]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@markselten4985]

@@mbmmllc I did also notice a lot of (admittedly) small bubbling on your first pour . Is that normal? Could the matt be caused by the smelt just needed more time to settle down and complete any reactions before you did pour? Thanks Jason for sharing the experience.

[@jackmclane1826]

That cookie sheet was still more valuable than the gold content... ^^

[@jasongrinnell1986]

Absolutely

[@blueridgeocean]

The ad revenue is still more valuable than the cookie sheet, fuel costs and gold recovered all together

[@jackmclane1826]

@@blueridgeocean Probably... ;)

[@Baronstone]

The easiest way to recover that gold is to wait until you have a ton or more, then set up a small leech field type system and recover the gold that way. It takes way less effort and you recover ALL of the possible gold from those low quality materials. You do it in small batches like that so that it can fit inside of the containment system you build. Granted this is only worth it if you end up with a few tons of that type of material every year from a mining operation, but it would work and be a heck of a lot cheaper to do than to crush it, roast it, and process it in a furnace.

[@spacecasejlp5373]

Cheapest, yet effective forge I've ever seen.

[@HolzMichel]

after roasting, those cons would have been a good run for some aqua-regia...grind them down to 1000 mesh and soak em and then you know for sure what you got.

[@Veptis]

Do you run your slack to through a ball mill and use it again? Also what happens to the used cupel? Is there a recycling path for them to get back the lead?

[@Monkeylots]

Looking at the numbers I got to say that it was not cost effective but a good learning video :)

[@jimbishop4714]

One one of the GPAA videos a man was giving his processed black sand to a neighbor who wanted it to add iron to her rose garden.

[@nathandean1687]

so how do you recovery the lead from the copular clay cup.

[@BubblewrapHighway]

I'd try another cookie sheet, but without the nonstick surface. You can find rolled aluminum half-sheet pans for cheap and they don't release carcinogens when heated past 450°.

[@rockymountainrockhound4393]

I once found 1/2 pound of gold in black sands. It was oxidized. Looked like the sand particles. So we started tumbling it with caustic soda, and sure enough. It was a large part of the concentrated waste materials. But how does it become oxidized I thought gold wouldn't? But I did find that once. We had like two years of that waste saved. We could have just smelted it. But at the time we didn't know.

[@kirbytrooper]

your theory makes total sense about your collector metal

[@glennabbott2606]

I am not roasting sulfides. I crush to 100 mesh, wash, and leach w/HCL. The result is a mix of chlorides; gold,silver,and platinum group metals. I put the solution in a crock pot and sweat off the acid I then place the chlorides in AR and precipitate. You get a purer product than fire assay which will need further refining. Are you getting Platinum Group Metals w/the gold sulfides. Won't hurt to check. nice video. Good Luck.

[@dr.rotwang]

When it comes to roasting the sulfides would a rotary kiln make sense for that process. The constant tumbling in the drum and heat seems like it might expose it to plenty of oxygen and get the job done quickly.

[@BillMulholland1]

Your not the only person I fallow on KZbin who’s kids make a cameo appearance. I think it’s great 😄🍻👍

[@TRGFBC]

Was thinking. The blob of iron at the bottom but them mix iron shavings in with the material being smelted. Let it do the same thing you were saying move around on the current with the precious metal as both melts then fall and mix with the blob at the bottom.

[@TheElectronicDilettante]

Is there any way to put the settling jig in a centrifuge? Although , spinning molten metal at high speeds sounds super problematic and dangerous, it would probably speed up the separation process and yield more PM.

[@BeinBerean]

7:27 ... "*GASP* It's ... it's EWUPTING!!!" That's awesome, cute kid! Thank you for the info Mt. Baker!

[@elizabethwatson71]

You can find a cast iron griddle, then you can have the surface area to work with again.

[@CanadairCL44]

Thanks for this video, the cooling process was fascinating to watch!

[@mbmmllc]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@disgruntledtoons]

The final analysis: If you don't see gold, you don't have gold.

[@mbmmllc]

Thanks for watching

[@SandhillCrane42]

You're just going to throw out $50 in GOLD?!?! I'm joking, of course.

[@krat0sag0d92]

Ok so when you sold the lead filled gold how hard was it to sell seeing how jewlers probably only buy copper smelted gold dont tell me you will loose 40% doing some acid crap?.....

[@chimezieukonu3371]

Please the black sand you are talking about, is it the same black sand use in moulding pots?

[@danielgriffiths3291]

What or who is that in the background around 7:28 in the cone mold pouring

[@stefflus08]

You'd think any sulfides would roast in the smelt. In fact I'm quite sure one *could* forego with the roasting alltogether if you used enough time and flux. All it does is inhibit the melt until it has fully decomposed and off-gassed. Same with the Na2Co3 in the flux, it needs to decompose and stop bubbling. I would roast it and use Sodium Oxide instead, but perhaps some bubbling is advantageous for stirring. My hypothesis to what happened is that you had too little flux and/or time. Another hypothesis that I'm leaning more towards is that the Lead got oxidized and that a little Carbon powder would help.

[@aaronstewart3570]

My heavy concentrate is gold/yellow with a slight orange hue. Do you want a Kg and see how much gold is in it? I have about 8 x 3 lt bottles full of the concentrate now.

[@russsherwood5978]

just subbed and thumbs - up, that sounds like the gold off our beaches that are in the black sands, be strong, be safe, and be blessed

[@tadvanallen]

Your Shaker Table works to good!

[@mbmmllc]

I love it!

[@JerrycanWanderers]

When i was drying my gold from a clean up i liked to vent the fumes out the window,didn't like the matalic taste . Probably not realy that good for ya. Sure do miss watching the fine line. Be safe and happy mining no amount of gold is worth getting sick over.

[@mbmmllc]

agreed!

[@ambersmith6517]

I have around 100 gen 3 4 and 5 I5 dell lap tops i can take all the boards out of them if you wanted to do recycle them they all are working but have cracked screens and stuff

[@sailingsolar]

"Hope you learned something." Lol! I learned something, alright. Thanks.

[@thecrudelab3204]

you should cook that iron pyrite in a distillation setup with an agar atmosphere to get some pure silver

[@TroyRubert]

Any chance we can get a tripod shot of 7:30 non speed up in some of the up coming videos? It’s so beautiful

[@dattabhamburdekar884]

Ur experiment very good bro.... Because remening dust is also valuable.....

[@zukitough]

Old video, I know, but a quick glance and I didn't see any mention of using a large wok for roasting.

[@malcolmadams2105]

Love the re mat without the button. Much better idea. Where do you learn this magic

[@vahagnmelikyan2906]

Isn't 1300c too high temperature? I was reading in this book that says no more than 1000 celcius otherwise silver and gold lose increases.

[@altonlynch5464]

We also tried leaching the gold out of it, with pretty much the same results.

[@chriscarley9951]

How do you feel about mixing lead shot in through the whole charge distributed evenly?

[@andrewpeacock341]

Can you separate the mix or at this point is this the last stop on the road for black sand metals?

[@Makobadger]

What tempreture do you smelt at for your chemicals to react and setle

[@michaelrobertson8795]

Roughly how long does it take to heat up a charge? like 30 minutes 40 minutes?

[@nunyabisnass1141]

Sulfides? Just bake it. But to convert to oxides you can also use whats called "piranha solution." Its easy to get a hold of and will oxidise anything. You also cant use a metal container, has to be glass because its already an oxide.

[@shaneyork300]

That probably answers alot of questions! Have a Great Day!!

[@MayanPudding]

You know you can get cast iron flat griddles right?

[@MR.ZANDRO]

Am from the Philippines and the rivers here in my city has tons of Black sands.

[@paulretzlaff2416]

Is there any chance you have some insight to floating cell machines agitation tanks basically basically the whole CIP carbon in pulp processing system

[@altonlynch5464]

Yes, they do, but not much gold in it, We tested it, with smelt process.

[@mahatmadoo2566]

Great video, thanks for going through all that effort.

[@mbmmllc]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@bjvoorhies]

How about a stainless steel "cookie sheet"? Or a large SS steam table pan?

[@henniebouwmans7879]

Mining company treat dumps 1gram to the ton in west aust in 1985 ,so 1gram for a bit black sand sound very good,with todays price,

[@ricklewis429]

Do you have the ceramic wool in your furnace rigidized ? or coated with a satinite ?

[@vahagnmelikyan2906]

But wouldn't it be better putting fine pieces of lead on top to collect the gold while it's going down. And being on top the lead will react with oxygen becoming PbO and the Pbo+Fe2s= Pb2+ FeOSio2 +So2?

[@dwatson4]

You could save that black sand and use it as a set up aid for your shaker table or sluice box without using good ore, use crap ore you know isn’t worth saving.

[@RadRelics]

maybe get a cast iron griddle. It would hold up a lot better and can be found cheap

[@mbmmllc]

Good idea

[@j_freeman3230]

What do you think about using a strong magnet for separating the ferocious metals and magnetite?

[@johnosman8971]

Ummm, I’m thinking you meant to say ferrous metals, instead of ferocious, … sounds tough though! Lmbo!

[@fpixel7190]

I wonder what the process would be to recover low sulphide PGM sands?