How much Spotify paid me for 4 million streams vs Apple Music (BIG DIFFERENCE 🤯)

In this video I'll be comparing how much money ive made for 4 million streams on Apple Music and spotify
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:32 How Much $ Per Stream
1:46 Best Way To Release Your Music
2:26 How much I got paid
3:46 Apple Music vs Spotify
6:00 What you should do

[@mariamabass6701]

The list is not actually sorted from highest(best) pay per stream to lowest(worst) pay per stream; it appears to be in a random order. The correct order if organized from best pay per stream/streams to get 1k to worst pay per stream/streams to get to 1k would be: 1) Tidal $0.013/76,924 2) Apple Music $0.01/100,000 3) KZbin Music $0.008/125,000 4) Deezer $0.0064/156,250 5) Amazon Music $0.004/250,000 6) Spotify $0.0033/303,030 7) Pandora $0.0013/769,231

[@leestrz4153]

All about YT music for me. I dunno why anyone messes with Spotify. Can't stand Spotify

[@jappolicario3002]

@@leestrz4153 Spotify has a lots of social features + better shuffle play

[@kallashiOfficial]

@@jappolicario3002 spotify shuffle is horrible

[@doge7831]

@@jappolicario3002 I just download music from KZbin and play them, no ads, no music disappearing, no 10$/month. It’s less convenient to download music from KZbin though than just using Spotify.

[@boomboxkat]

i honestly forgot pandora exists

[@chkodybeats]

I had a lofi beat blow up last year and it got 3.5 million streams and the thing I learned was yeah it is kind of crappy that spotify pays so little, but if you have a couple of beats that are performing decently well, that’s really the key to being a successful independent artist. It’s all about having a rich catalogue that has potential to be playlisted, even if most of them don’t get playlisted.

[@LDreTheGiant]

100% and congrats on that!

[@Vince_Cuh]

What's it called

[@kirakira9906]

@@Vince_Cuh yeah

[@kiwuuspurr1927]

@@Vince_Cuh i'd like to know too

[@chkodybeats]

@@Vince_Cuh it’s called B U M M E R with all the spaces in between!

[@GlitchxCity]

In my experience, Spotify just seems more accessible for people to use. Apple Music is fine but it still has that sense of "exclusivity" in the air which turns some users off. I guess it really depends on someone's music platform preference

[@harrypotcha0283]

Spotify was first and I’ve got my favourite playlists over there.

[@j800r_aswell]

Nah. It's more about how the person consumes music. Your casual listener is way more likely to go for Spotify, with its playlist management, social and discovery features. An enthusiast who likes to "own" (I realise these days we actually own nothing with music streaming) every album released by their favourite artist along with lossless formats will opt for Apple Music. I disagree with Spotify being "more accessible". Unless you are talking music and the fact Spotify has some free access. Otherwise Apple Music is most places Spotify is and it's all about how you prefer to consume your music. Most prefer "tracks on demand" which is why Spotify does so well. Especially with younger generations.

[@finnruijter1847]

@@j800r_aswell In my opinion, I only like Apple Music for the lossless audio and the better payment for artists. I tried Apple Music properly last time, but the discovery functions for some nice genres is just absolutely terrible. Spotify thrives with their AI playlists. If Spotify introduces their Spotify Platinum (lossless) subscription, I'm all in. No matter if it's a lot more expensive. I listen to music almost the whole day. :)

[@split2844]

I prefer Apple Music for the better UI (at least on mobile.) Spotify's UI just isn't good. Lyrics UI looks horrible, some UI is hard to navigate... it's just not as easy to listen to the music that you want to listen to. Plus the Music app also includes music files imported from iTunes, so...

[@homie7218]

@@split2844 opposite for me, apple music is terrible to navigate and Spotify looks cool

[@chuckmakesbeats7426]

It's crazy how many streams you need for $1k. Music is really undervalued for indie artists.

[@yafmaverick]

Wonder why

[@chuckyfox9284]

I actually would have thought they pay way less. I have Apple Music Family with 2 friends and my siblings. If we on average listen 2h/day/person and a song plays for an average of 2 minutes Apple has to pay artist 90€ and we are only paying 15 a month. And Apple has to provide all of the infrastructure on top of that.

[@oyuyuy]

And yet super overvalued for mainstream artists. That's the nature of having millions of people competing for the same job.

[@prodKujixys]

I say its fine. theres millions of artists bro. aint no way they finna have you get 1k for say like a 50k-100k streams. not realistic

[@beepst]

Been using Apple Music for almost 2 years and haven't regretted it ever since.

[@-seoulair]

same

[@SPCMTTRS]

Great job man. Even if the payout is quite limited, you still have the talent to repeat the process over again and even triple that amount for several years. Props.

[@johnbenton5102]

This is the exact reason why I joined Apple Music from the jump gotta support artists in what ever way you can.

[@bdfwhhsb]

It’s also just a better platform for music playing imo

[@bunnywar]

Buying was better

[@vinay1571]

People don't understand how important sound quality is to some people. Listening to music is not all about playlists and recommendations and how everything happens automatically for you. You don't have to be an "audiophile" to enjoy high quality audio. I also get infuriated listening to retards who only talk about "noise cancellation" when doing "headphone reviews", and only talk about loudness when talking about sound quality. They're the same kind of people who would talk only about cameras while reviewing smartphones.

[@jackjack4412]

@@bdfwhhsb how is it better?

[@bdfwhhsb]

@@jackjack4412 many ways

[@bobsnothereeither]

An important difference he showed us but didn’t mention was the charts. Spotify peaked the tailed off rapidly towards zero. Don’t expect much more cash to come from them. Apple is keeping pretty steady. There should be way more rolling in as we go on.

[@LDreTheGiant]

2 key difference between the songs is the Spotify track blew up from a viral tiktok quite some time ago & the Apple Music song like I mentioned was placed in the huge Apple Music playlist and is still in it to this day

[@crutec126]

congrats on the morning brew shout out ! always appreciate a creator who sections off their ad reads, and this video was fascinating to watch. good job !!

[@LDreTheGiant]

Ohh that’s awesome I had no idea!! It was in an email?

[@crutec126]

@@LDreTheGiant yeah, a daily email thing. they usually cover business news but occasionally show off cool creators on KZbin

[@LDreTheGiant]

@@crutec126 if I join now will I be able to see it?

[@crutec126]

@@LDreTheGiant probably not but they have the latest issue on their site

[@82jae__]

@@LDreTheGiant I came from the morning brew to watch this video too!

[@AlexanderXtcSlayin]

This is one of the most straight forward videos I’ve seen on KZbin. Thank you so much for not beating around the bush or dragging it out. Great info 🤙

[@oxinym]

Love these type of videos

[@LifeStyleDidIt]

Doing numbers!💎🔥👏

[@LDreTheGiant]

My G 🙏🏾

[@seanhelligso6518]

Im not an artist but this is great insight. I think as consumers we start using the platforms that give back to the artists the most. Would you like to see more people using apple music?

[@LDreTheGiant]

Ideally yes but like I said, in the video, Spotify still has way better features for artists

[@user-qb4kh2or7m]

Or potentially get Spotify to provide better services for artists (potentially by indicating our willingness to pay more in subscription fees if they pay artists more). Spotify has a great service for consumers - it’s a sticky platform and a lot of people don’t want to switch.

[@Super29127]

Ideally no...because now you are giving over control to a technology that you have no control over and actually has rights to your property & control of your money.

[@Super29127]

The same way people get on long lines and campouts to get the new Jordans, Yeezys(used to be), & iPhones...is the same way people need to line up to get there fav artists new album. Hell people do it to get into concerts...so why not for music.

[@good-tn9sr]

tidal pays the most tho

[@pe7e]

Personally I feel like artists should at least get a penny per stream. Especially independent artists. A percent of a penny is cruel.

[@DonTheking]

Honestly tho

[@theunconciousmind7314]

Actually yes, so someone would appreciate atleast to hear a new song

[@madeinjei]

the value is all dependent on Supply and Demand, and Laws.

[@heythere6983]

Back when people bought cds you’d get a dollar per cd. So if you sold 10 millions copies, 10 millions bucks and then you could tour and keep all of it . Now? Labels take your lowly from all your income and barely even pay you what you get on streaming platforms as if they can’t keep up with the numbers

[@madeinjei]

@@heythere6983 how can u equate the value of $1 : Album to streams per song without blowing out the economy

[@Tommy-tj6tx]

bruhh been waiting for this Love you for being legit💖 much love from South sudan

[@SP-um6jv]

Thank you for the inspiration bro. Great vibe on your channel!

[@pdeofficial]

L.Dre is always an inspiration! More blessing Bro!

[@kirkstate]

True I need to promote other platforms, I usually mention Spotify when people ask me where to hear my music. Best money I’ve made from my music was people actually purchasing the downloads from Amazon

[@LDreTheGiant]

Yup people sleep on actual sales. Some people still buy music

[@chrisrussell1318]

I'm going for it L dre! Thanks for sharing these tips! ✌

[@SurfyStories]

Obviously apple

[@SurfyStories]

Btw apple didn't pay my royalties for the last two months idk why. Is there anyone facing the same ?

[@LDreTheGiant]

@@SurfyStories it’s usually a 3 month delay for payments

[@tadhgd350]

Maths do be mathing

[@aneleremedyem8749]

Love the authenticity in your content bro!! ☯💙

[@jacksonchu3281]

This video really inspired me to try even harder to make music, I’m new to music produce and I don’t know any chords progression, I made some simple lofi last year and it was really hard and I didn’t know where to earn money from music for small artist, now I know the possibilities to make a living of it , thank you Ldre!❤

[@Kooma]

On Spotify, it also depends where the people are listening your music: you can make $17K per 1M streams if the plays are coming from South Korea. On the other hand, if your streams are coming from Turkey, you only get about $600 per 1M streams.

[@icetrip2417]

True

[@PowerOfAIandMotivation]

Thank you for sharing! This was really helpful🙏🏻

[@jamal1986]

Keep up the Grind, bro!

[@henrycooper8486]

This was inspiring for sure! Thanks a lot for doing this! Peace😉

[@DamjanPrvulovic]

Thanks for the insights. What about Performance and Mechanical Royalties?

[@user-hf3qm3mu5t]

Appreciate you going there 🥂

[@Datsunn]

How long do you generally set your release date for? 4-5 weeks?

[@JeffPierreMusic]

Thanks for sharing!

[@KWANTlZE]

good info. dope upload

[@digitalmedia6367]

Hey, L.Dre, another aspect of this conversation is also the quality of the streamed music. Spotify is just now catching up to #HiFi standards (CD-Quality) for Premium and that's pretty sad when Apple Music is at all the way up to #HiRes (24-bit up to 192KkHz with proper equipment) lossless at every level. Yeah, LoFi is cool, too, right. It just seems that features are one thing, and while part of the experience, but when is the younger Gen going to 'listen' to music rather than just 'hear' it? We deal with this in our various degree programs constantly and it must be a learned trait - this can greatly influence those paying for music and making their voice much more potent in ensuring artists get their portion, too. Just a thought :) BTW, where did your get those nice Sound Treatment panels - dang nice.

[@totallynotretro9967]

Damn I’ve been bouncing between these 2 for streaming for a bit and this was crazy helpful. Great video dude!

[@LDreTheGiant]

Thank you !

[@LofiCoder]

Hey L.Dre, very helpful content as always ❤ A question, how do you distribute your music to AppleMusic in China, by using Distrokid?

[@syndicate_1]

Also keep in mind that spotify pays 30% cut to apple for using their app store, Apple Music doesn’t have to pay shit since it’s theirs

[@LDreTheGiant]

Ohh wow good point I forgot about that

[@sakethreddy4450]

Spotify doesn't have to pay apple for hosting on app store.. they used to but not anymore. Only purchase made on the app are charged 30%. But if you notice you cannot anymore pay through the app for Spotify. Same goes with Netflix, Hulu etc etc streaming apps

[@remyroland8016]

​​@@sakethreddy4450 They're still paying tho. If they don't, their app will be removed from the App Store.

[@OfficialGodschild]

Thanks 4 sharing this🙏🏾...the rates are sad...but it's encouraging to see you do it as an independent artist~

[@SleepyMontana]

Great video, awesome info 💯

[@LDreTheGiant]

Thank you

[@gregoryallen0001]

such a clear presentation of the info thank you!!

[@KiingLevi]

Thx for the inspiration Dre ✊🏾

[@marker710.]

Lofi Dre😅❤. Awesome video, do you have a video explaining what vybe village is?

[@2phoneBBkeem]

You can actually upload your own playlists to Apple Music too. I think you do it through the music app

[@chillvibes2442]

Dope content right here 🔥💯

[@juppiplankton7599]

bro, where do you get this sick acoustic panels from?

[@pupst.v.]

It’s crazy that this popped before I’m releasing a song this definitely is motivating. I never get paid for my songs now it’s a time to start. So any type of pay 💰 is good in my book.

[@Hillarymaryy]

Really good video. Great insight

[@calebsccook]

Thanks for making these videos

[@halfbee7886]

This is inspiring and scary at the same time. Love the video tho! ❤

[@Meanpeagreen]

Yeah aight you called me out on this one 😅 I've been putting off signing up to distrokid until my first album is finished but you're absolutely right, what am I waiting for!

[@BOF303]

congrats (I'm following on spotify btw) - my opinion is it's a lot easier to promote on spotify than with apple music, being an unknown it's next to impossible to get heard on apple music. With spotify it's doable.

[@l4ndst4nder]

That's some really good advice for musicians. But for listeners I think Apple Music or Tidal is the better option if you want to support the artists.

[@annastayziaa]

I hope these brands that sponsor you pay you well. You deserve it.

[@MattnUska]

I guess the way I look at streaming is it’s great for established artists because you keep getting money every time someone listens to your music vs someone buying physical media and then your income is over. For up and coming maybe it’s a little spare change. I dunno. I personally will buy a record from an artist I really like and then listen to their music on a streaming service. I very rarely sit down and listen to a record but at least it’s a way to support smaller artists. Can’t fight it so might as well embrace it and try to figure out how to make it work.

[@77benj]

Hey dude , I've got a question. How exactly your song Steven Universe went super viral, you released it by Distrokid and then promoted it and it worked or what exactly happened ? Thank you for your videos ! You are a big inspiration dude !

[@parismalaspinas2488]

As expected the industry is very unfriendly when it comes to independent artists. Kinda sucks when we have all the platforms and the technology in the world but big companies will still promote old and already established artist's

[@lofipal1558]

this was helpful "lofi" dre thanks!

[@lawrencefearon6830]

Just streamed I Miss The Rain and it's soothing HipHop chill. Here's the thing, because you sound so much better at the Lossless level, in my car you got that 3peat triple play from me. At this point the Lossless experience is so far ahead of Spotify a lot of us just keep replaying our Apple Music Library. You're at the 16 Bit 48kHZ level. If you can level up to the Dolby Atmos surround sound sonic stratosphere, you'd get more streams. That's my 3¢ lol. 👊🏾

[@harsimransinghsandhu4499]

Shoutout to Morning Brew who brought me here, never listened to any of your songs but great vid!

[@LDreTheGiant]

That’s awesome thanks for watching !!

[@Skelettett]

40,000$ on Apple Music and roughly 13,333$ on Spotify I’m guessing

[@sampoetry]

Great insight bro, thanks for sharing. That's very impressive to garner 4 million streams and profit from it but financially it's such a rip off to artist. They could at least give us a penny per stream lol However, I appreciate you encouraging artist to post their music that's sitting on their hard drive which can possibly lead to some decent revenue, hell I just withdrew $38 from Distrokid which was right on time cause my car was low on gas lol Seriously though fam I wish you more blessings and more success.

[@annastayziaa]

it makes me so sad you don’t get paid more 🥺 I love your music

[@themessiah-tk7zk]

You love him?🤭🤭

[@beyse101]

Hey, cool video. I stopped at 00:58 and was just wondering how exactly Spotify would be in the 4th palace before KZbin Music when YTM pays 0,008 which is more than the 0,0033 from Spotify.

[@Sakima205]

It also depends on the distributor right? Bc each Distributor service has a different cut?

[@belizeanog]

Blessings king 👑

[@chongillespie]

This was exactly why I moved from Spotify to Tidal. Props to big creators like yourself and Anthony Fantano for bringing this to people's attention

[@madeinjei]

not gonna lie that's kind of a dumb play there. will you make more money; Probably, but you've also put yourself in a really small space meaning your opportunities to grow your platform as an artist are going to be virtually non existent, and if Tidal were to grow as big a Spotify it would only end up making Tidal have the same issue you have with Spotify.

[@chongillespie]

@@madeinjei While your first point is obviously true (although "non-existent" is obviously a comical exaggeration), I see no reason to assume Tidal would change their remuneration model to be more like Spotify because they became more popular/successful. Moreover, and I accept I could have made this clearer in my original post, although it will probably seem pretty obvious when you read it, my comment was from a consumer's perspective, not a creator's.

[@iamwisdomsky]

nah. I'd rather have Apple Music than sticking to Tidal. Tidal and Apple Music's royalty is close enough but subscription price is way different. Tidal is expensive as hell and paired with the fact that they have way less collection of songs. Not to mention the number of subscriptions. As an artist who wants to earn more, I'd rather do business with a platform with many subscribers than in a platform that pays a little higher but has subscribers a fraction of the nearest competition. Also Apple music subscriptions has been increasing ever since after they launched the Apple One subscription which bundles every Apple's service. This was in fact the reason why I jumped from Spotify into Apple music and imported my Spotify playlist into Apple Music. It even become better after Apple launched the Lossless music in which Spotify is still yet to implement.

[@heythere6983]

Why are you guys choosing one over another anyways just do as many as you can

[@wilma7612]

@@heythere6983 fr

[@juzerbaatwala8868]

I like apple music more than spotify personally

[@tomsmith7429]

Musicians are much better off than painters. No matter if a picture gets viewed a billion times, the artist does not get a cent. Musicians gets royalties all their lives and their estates keep getting them for another 70 years after death.

[@ladycharlesmusic]

This is why as a musician I use Tidal for listening - I want the money I spend on music going to my fellow artists as much as possible. Thanks for the info and congrats on the streams!

[@absolutium]

Unfortunately that's not the case the money is going into licensing a decoding process which no one asked to encode in the first place.. Deezer and Qobuz might be better choices if you want money to go into hard work and not into shareholders.

[@madeinjei]

​@@absolutium The only way for songs to be legally allowed on streaming platforms is for those platforms to pay for the licenses for those songs. Another thing is that I see majority of the comments here only mentioning money without realizing that if the money is coming from listeners and the majority of listeners arent on Tidal, Deezer or Qobuz then youre gonna see a real difference in how much your making Quarter to Quarter because thats how you get payed out in the music industry. Also everyones convinced that Spotify is the shitty platform cuz of how much it pays out, but no one has considered that most other platforms dont have the same user base as Spotify meaning the dollar doesnt have to get split as many ways on other platforms.

[@absolutium]

@@madeinjei Well.. To be accurate Spotify is essentially giving the listener 1/4 of a song.. if you read my reply again your are going to notice the response is about technical licensing not administrative bs.

[@madeinjei]

@@absolutium The technical licensing is apart of the contract you make with, or contract but in place by, your label / publisher. You cant divide the 2 into different categories because everyone's picking from the same pot

[@absolutium]

@@madeinjei That statement is how I know you have no idea what is being talked about.. Look at GoldenSound video regarding MQA.. come back with your findings.

[@induhgo_]

Thank you brother!

[@korniceman3000]

Thank you for sharing this gem!! Very grateful for this breakdown :D!!! Definitely very informative. I'm just starting to post on spotify and it is so difficult to get views. I have absolutely no idea how to promote my tracks on Apple Music or youtube music since it was uploaded via distrokid. Hope you will consider doing a video on that. Your expertise on that subject would be greatly appreciated!!

[@johnnybongo5077]

Digital music was encouraged by labels to regain control as far as the money. Years ago, too many folks were making a fortune selling their own music from the trunks of their cars and online, thus cutting the distributors and labels out completely. When music distributors and record store chains statred going bankrupt in the late 90's early 2000's, I saw where this was going then.

[@madeinjei]

Its actually not the case, Digital music was looked down upon by labels at first and seen as unprofitable. Long story short, labels started making money off of licensing artists to streaming platforms and then later had to figure out a way to make more profit once streaming blew up so streaming profits came into play with how payouts were dealt out.

[@flowsofrelaxation2943]

i just thought i would give you some extra insight into the numbers. I've studied them myself. 1. like you said the free Spotify tier pays less royalty ( way less ) than the premium streams. also, the amount you receive from a stream depends on the country where the song was listened to. for example, a stream in the USA will pay more than a stream in a developing economy like India. 2. a big reason why a company like Spotify is paying out less than for example apple is due to the fact that for apple and amazon as well the streaming site is just a side hustle to keep people in their ecosystem. their core business isn't in music so they can make a significant loss on the music streamed. for Spotify, this is just not the case. if you look into the financials of Spotify they are basically always losing money. Tidal is also having big financial losses year over year. 3. just like the streams from free Spotify users the free trial users for apple music also have a lower payout per stream than the normally subscribed users. 4. its also important to mention that the average payouts per stream only are meant for independent artists, the label for big artists negotiates rates with the streaming services separately.

[@tronam]

Apple does not sell Apple Music at a loss. They do choose to give a higher percentage of their Apple Music revenue to artists, which certainly impacts profit margins, but theirs is not a loss leader company culture. Spotify’s major advantage is global ubiquity without platform bias catering to a much broader population at all economic levels.

[@Super29127]

I think he needs a part 2 to this video breaking down step-by-step what he did

[@helloxonsfan]

Streaming platforms should definitely be paying the artists more, because without the artists those platforms literally have no product to profit from...!!! Great vid...!!! 👍

[@madeinjei]

Supply and Demand, and Laws

[@helloxonsfan]

@@madeinjei... Then artists should curtail their _supplies_ until their _demands_ are met! And streaming payouts aren't based on government laws, but on company policies.

[@madeinjei]

@@helloxonsfan There are laws put in place that limit the amount of money a label/publisher/distributer is allowed to payout an artist per quarter, there's also a minimum, working in the music industry is still a something you would file a w9 for and thus there have to be regulations put in place so that it doesnt get abused, and as an artist when youre working out your contract your almost never going to get exactly what you want because youre technically compromising with your investor.

[@helloxonsfan]

@@madeinjei... The payout to artist was actually a deal negotiated by the major record companies & the streaming platforms back in the early days if streaming. It hasn't changed since. Record companies still get the bulk of the share, while artists still get a pittance.

[@madeinjei]

@@helloxonsfan its way more complicated than that. look at the credits of the song and then add a few more people and those are all of the people that need to get paid for the song. The record label has to pay all that out and the artist gets a little because every year the record label gives out a loan the artist that must be paid back by the end of the contract and sometimes our pesky little artist goes and spends that money on shit not related to the actual production of the piece ( when I say shit I mean things other than basic living necessities) so if for example they invest $100,000 to you, your song makes $200,000 but you spent $90,000 then your doing $200,000 - $90,000 and thats just pay back the loan cuz everyone involved in the production has to get their payout / royalty so $110,000 can end up turning into like $30,000 - $40,000 if u as the artist arent careful with how u spend the money

[@kirakira9906]

Damn. I was very close with Spotify and very far off with Apple Music, since taking 100k streams for $1k brings to $40k. So I subbed :) Anyway I knew these platforms didn't pay much but I thought they paid much much more, I mean artists release few songs a year or not even. I wish they paid more, they probably do pay more some artists that literally bring most of the users to the platform, still it sucks

[@futurew0782]

Spotify has never turned a profit, so paying more per stream would be highly unsustainable

[@theunconciousmind7314]

So best upload in all platforms

[@theIoficafe]

Spotify close to 11k and Apple around 27k

[@justusratzke957]

Hey @L.dre what was the name of the dashboard where you track all the streams ? I can't find the video.

[@mgweir3252]

If you have the equipment, Apple lossless and their implementation of spatial audio with Dolby Atmos systems is a game changer.

[@edopaul8393]

As an artist - obviously I would like to see us all get the bag that we deserve. Yet, I see y’all saying “we should be paid” but realistically looking, those companies are just trynna make money and not justice fighters. In today world there are so many artists and musicians that sadly, it would be so hard for those companies to pay everyone more than that.

[@Fraend]

ei man, how can you get the money from distrokid? you said it's 3 month delay but from spotify to you or you mean the distrokid? if you can explain because i make music and use distrokid too thank you

[@nickdeezproductionz]

Great video loved the charts I make beats for a hobby but it nice to know the potential for some extra cash is there

[@LDreTheGiant]

100%

[@cdrmusicaz]

yo i have been following you and implementing your advice with my lofi beats. I am almost at 3k monthly listeners now over the span of a couple weeks. Thank you for your help!

[@bellawella5778]

Thank you!!! You are awesome!!!

[@shawntw1556]

about 40k and 13k respectively on each platform based on 4m streams at the advertised rate. Actual price they paid out, based on streams and paid amount: Spotify rounded to $11700 and 4.5m streams thats .0026 opposed to their advertised .0033, which would take about 385k streams to get $1k. Apple rounded to $24200 and 4.5m streams again. Thats roughly .0054(rounded, it was 53777 with repeating 7) as opposed to the advertised .01, which would tkae about 185000 streams to get $1k. Moral of the story: giving guides like that is pointless because there will be this or that reason that you aren't being paid the full amount thats advertised

[@robhingston]

Which is why artists now days do a lot of live gigs ..

[@Iloveunasi]

I love ya mindset !!!!

[@Bangastarch]

Amazing amazing … keep going

[@HeathRS]

I've went back and forth about whether I prefer Spotify or Apple Music. Experience is pretty similar but I'll be going with the one that pays the artist more. Easy choice at that point.

[@MattCupan]

Imagine if you sold your album in actual tangible form? $20 cassettes. One sale of an actual beat tape would equate to over 5,000 streams.

[@LDreTheGiant]

I sell vinyls here and there which is good money compared to streaming but it’s infinitely harder to get people to buy physical stuff when they can stream it for “free”

[@titovalasques]

Apple also has lossless (close to) Tidal quality for the same price you would pay on Spotify.

[@matrinoxtm]

Is the 24k from Apple directly to you or part of the pool that is split to you?

[@NoisyMayhemInc]

Distrokid is convenient but they keep reducing my songs from 24hz to 16hz CD quality for Tidal because I don’t pay to be audiophile verified Seeing that they pay the best is it worth the $20 USD to be verified?

[@johnknox1494]

Very interesting insight

[@shvkpr1]

I’m happy I use tidal ig based on the chart. Like the moral sanity of knowing I’m using something like that is pretty nice

[@taimurirfan8064]

Thank you, it works perfect!

[@LenGreenblat]

How many years did it take to get 4 million streams?

[@ArthArmani]

Spotify is kinda an ass, they even sued some artists

[@Reclinesmc]

First time I haven’t already heard of the sponsor. 👀

[@pinkusagar]

I believe that Spotify being in more markets and more paid subscribers means a large chunk of their subscribers are from low income countries where subscription fees are lower and the ad revenues as well so to compensate that they have a lower rate. Tidal being only available in high income countries pays the most. So the rate is decided by mix of paid subscribers from various income group countries. Ideally there should be different rate for streams from different countries to maximize artist compensation. KZbin does it for its videos. So you get paid more if someone from Europe or North America streams your songs.

[@madeinjei]

The value balances out to whatever the world currency is which is the US Dollar. 100 Yen = $1.00+/- meaning that the Spotify premium package in Japan would probably be around 1,000 yen+/-. I just looked up the cost for Spotify in India and the subscription plans work differently which seems to not only have to do with the value of the currency. You said the subscription fees are lower in low income countries but I really just comes down to the value of the currency and how much it costs to buy things. for example although the cost of spotify premium in india costs 119 Rupees the cost of a bottle of water in India is 30 Rupees +/-, which if u do a little math would be the equivalent of $10 in Rupee

[@pinkusagar]

@@madeinjei I mean cost of a water bottle is not Rs 30 its Rs 20 ( 25 cents ) for brands like Aquafina and Kinley. If you buy a full 15 bottle set it costs Rs 15 (19 cents) per bottle. I dont know whats that in terms of Purchasing power parity. So just like you said its Rs 119 which is approx $1.5 per month which impacts artists income. India doesnt even give you volume as competitors are way cheaper giving you music subscriptions at 1/3rd of the cost.

[@MorticiaNotrefantezCiccone]

I love the audio quality of Apple Music.