How much water is in my steak?!?

[@landcruisingdoc4137]

"Whiskey is for drinking-water is for fighting" Mark Twain :-)

[@carltaylor4942]

I've been watching all of your videos this last few days and it has really clarified a lot of ideas and brought them all together as a coherent system. I now feel I can confidently defend my (and your) point of view in a discussion. Thank you - this series is just so important for everyone alive now.

[@Campaigner82]

The humor with the water containers coupled with the facts of the meat, is great! Funny & informative!

[@johnhaggerty6009]

It is a very good thing that you are bringing to light the greatest threats to the relatively short term survival of a large portion of our population. I hope that these threats and the solutions you have brought to light are soon taken seriously by everyone. Thanks you for your great work.

[@insightfool]

That section with the water containers was awesome!

[@JustHaveaThink]

Thanks Cere :-)

[@lucidmoses]

Around here farmers do everything they can to get the water off the fields so they can plant earlier in the season and then complain all year long that there is less water in the ground.

[@patrickmcnulty848]

Ocean Mechanical Thermal Energy Conversion can power desalinization plants for all the water we will ever need David... Clean and green water machines... Once again great video..

[@JustHaveaThink]

A reminder to anyone reading Patrick's comments above - here's the link to the video explaining the OMTEC concept that Patrick is aiming to get into development kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2OtgGmZj7ljo7M

[@patrickmcnulty848]

@@JustHaveaThink Thanks again David...

[@PeterKnagge]

Desal plants is prohibitively expensive to build and maintain. Most places around the couldn't afford to build or maintain a desal plant. Critical water scarcity is the most immediate and important global environmental problem and effect food security, energy production, sanitation, and even national security. Severe water scarcity effects 6 of the 7 global continents and people even have ideas to calve up Antarctica. Micro-algae can filter water naturally and I dare say more cheaply and with less maintence than desal. Micro-algae can also at the same time produce many other products ranging from food, medicine, textiles, etc, and can be used for carbon capture. The best idea is to learn how to recycle our waste more efficiently.

[@mafarmerga]

I learn so much from you every week.

[@artmcteagle]

Good video. I would like to mention that pollution of our waterways, is an increasing problem. Here in NZ we have over 6 million dairy cows, the environmental impact of which is devastating, nearly 3/4 of our rivers are now not fit to bathe in, due to run off. Our aquifers are being depleted on an industrial scale to supply forage. Greed for short term corporate profit, has corrupted politics here and I don't see how we can turn it around. Most people don't care and would not consider giving up some of their comforts to help the planet.

[@Ross1il]

Oh no, there goes my cheese addiction too. Just when I thought I’d saved the planet by only eating kangaroo and veg!

[@someguy2135]

The video did not show the amount of water needed for high protein plant sources, like legumes. The amount needed is a tiny percentage of animal based protein, including dairy.

[@nickd4310]

Governments should also stop subsidizing animal feeds such as soy and corn.

[@AndersJensen1977]

Thank you for many great videos. Would be cool with a water comparison for grass feed beef vs corn/soya feed beef - There must be a huge difference.

[@watsonmikeable]

I'm very impressed with the quality of your videos. Thanks mate great work.

[@Ocean-Mariner]

Excellent work Sir.

[@ChefNateGr8]

Excellent work. Thank you very much.

[@bobjackson4720]

I thought this video would mention all the extra water butchers add to water to make it heavier before they sell it.

[@markumbers5362]

Nobody every talks about saltwater fish, raised in, on land ponds, where the water is filtered before returning to the sea. They would be fed mainly on a grain based feed. What would the freshwater per flesh kilo ratio be for the best species and of course price comparison.

[@colecampagna6302]

I try to talk to people at work about not using plastic and eating less meat and it’s sad how many people are like “I don’t care I like meat too much, oh I hate salad or oh I need a plastic cup with a lid because I don’t want germs in my drink” -_- Makes me want to quit my job

[@JustHaveaThink]

Yes, I know Cole. It can be disheartening, but keep doing what you're doing. At least you have a clear conscious.

[@northavealum]

It's discouraging, but "Think Globally, Act Locally" is the only sane path forward.

[@markythesharky007]

Another awesome video ✌️🌱

[@maleahlock]

Water usage comparison was my struggle with deciding whether to purchase a bidet or remain a toilet paper user. (Thankfully this was before covid 19.) It took so much research and poorly drawn graphs, pie charts, and lists of numbers that I think I sweated out another ocean. I did eventually realise that the bidet is better for the environment on a consumption to consumption level. However, a french water research dude (I don't remember his title) was able to show that over a decade or so the bidet does far more by also averting common health issues found in TP users. OH the places you'll go and the people you'll meet when you overthink everything!

[@StevenCleghorn]

On point as usual. Great work! This article will interest your audience. “There is infinite hope,” Kafka tells us, “only not for us.” This is a fittingly mystical epigram from a writer whose characters strive for ostensibly reachable goals and, tragically or amusingly, never manage to get any closer to them. But it seems to me, in our rapidly darkening world, that the converse of Kafka’s quip is equally true: There is no hope, except for us. I’m talking, of course, about climate change. The struggle to rein in global carbon emissions and keep the planet from melting down has the feel of Kafka’s fiction. The goal has been clear for thirty years, and despite earnest efforts we’ve made essentially no progress toward reaching it. Today, the scientific evidence verges on irrefutable. If you’re younger than sixty, you have a good chance of witnessing the radical destabilization of life on earth-massive crop failures, apocalyptic fires, imploding economies, epic flooding, hundreds of millions of refugees fleeing regions made uninhabitable by extreme heat or permanent drought. If you’re under thirty, you’re all but guaranteed to witness it. If you care about the planet, and about the people and animals who live on it, there are two ways to think about this. You can keep on hoping that catastrophe is preventable, and feel ever more frustrated or enraged by the world’s inaction. Or you can accept that disaster is coming, and begin to rethink what it means to have hope. www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/what-if-we-stopped-pretending

[@albertoscatto5796]

Thank you!! Nice Content as always

[@Chris-op7yt]

glaciers are not all equal. the ones in decline in the himalayas normally provide water for most of SE asia. modern meat is usually treated with salt derivatives, so that the meat itself holds more water per kg. there is hope, ironically using livestock, to regenerate pasture land to lock in more carbon (and water) into soil. we do need to re-plant forests...but we dont eat wood

[@EnvironmentalCoffeehouse]

This is a really helpful video. So much that no one ever thinks about.

[@JustHaveaThink]

Thanks Sandie. Much appreciated as always.

[@valhala56]

I have been going to Burger king for the non meat impossible burger every day for a week and still not burned out yet.

[@camlinhall1363]

@@valhala56 I'll give it a go then

[@Tango771]

Looking forward to the re-forestation video! Great work as usual mate.

[@10mey]

So am I :-)

[@JustHaveaThink]

Thanks Adam. Should be one of the programs in the next few weeks hopefully

[@incognitotorpedo42]

The water it takes to make a kilogram of chicken isn't "used up". It doesn't leave the planet. It's just returned to the hydrologic cycle. This is not a problem unless there is a localized shortage of fresh water, which certainly occurs in many places, but not everywhere. I agree with the other points in this video.

[@ecospider5]

That is not completely true. Much of US farming is supported by the Ogallala Aquifer a water source created thousands of years ago. We are using that water way faster than we are replenishing it. Some say it will be not useable after 2028. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogallala_Aquifer So yes a localized water problem covering 1/3 the United States.

[@zs9652]

Good video, mate.

[@weldonyoung1013]

Loved the visualization of water demand for food production. Do have a train of questions though, you state the amount of potable water has remainded the same at approximately 0.008% of global water. How has pollution decreased the amount of consumable water available? And is this likely to be a significant factor into the future? This could make 'fresh' water as expensive in cost & energy as that produced by desalination plants from the world's oceans.

[@JustHaveaThink]

Hi Weldon. Well the overall amount of water on the planet has not changed and will not change, but the proportions of salty /polluted / fresh are moving around all the time I guess. Pollution is certainly a massive problem, but then again the more we can move away from huge agrichemical and petrochemcial production, the less risk of pollution in our waterways. Also the Agribusinesses are big polluteres too so if we could scale down our consumption of red meat it would all contribute to less polluted water. And if farmers moved to a more regeneratve model then they would also be capturing more fresh water in the soils which will help reduce desertfication. It's all bound up in one big cycle really - and we're pretty much messing all of it up!

[@bazarov3857]

Thanks so much for another excellent video. You are doing a great job!

[@JustHaveaThink]

Thanks Bazarov. Much appreciated :-)

[@nowmindfulheart]

over time, how many gallons of potable water have been "mined" from nonreplaceable underground water that was once not part of the hydrological cycle

[@user-tp9gy8kt2q]

Michael, if you really want to do something (make a personal effort), try looking into Earthships at EarthshipGlobal . www.earthshipglobal.comwww.earthshipglobal.com

[@qvintuse.urvind7002]

I'm not sure if I understand what you mean, but the main problem is overuse, decline and depletion of groundwater in some places, i.e. where pumping of groundwater far exceeds the recharge in the hydrological cycle. So, where the water supply generally is not a problem, e.g. Scottish Highlands, this will not be an issue (at least for now), but looking at the English Lowlands, that could be another story. According to Gerald Haslam in his book The Other California, p.34, pumping exceeded replenishment by half a trillion gallons annually, in 1990. But in a wet year like 2017, the recharge actually exceeded the pumping, and the situation is not the same in all basins ... www.ppic.org/publication/groundwater-in-california/ www.ppic.org/blog/how-much-water-is-available-for-groundwater-recharge/ ... “The Colorado River Basin, which supplies water to 40 million people in seven states, is losing water at dramatic rates, and most of the losses are groundwater. A new satellite study from the University of California, Irvine and NASA indicates that the Colorado River Basin lost 65 cubic kilometers (15.6 cubic miles) of water from 2004 to 2013” ... www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/8/140819-groundwater-california-drought-aquifers-hidden-crisis/ In Pakistan, both Karachi and Lahore experience severe water scarcity and overuse of groundwater; Karachi needs 1.1 billion gallons of freshwater per day. www.dawn.com/news/1398499 The 2015-2017 drought in Cape Town brought on a water crisis, because the city, relying on dams almost exclusively, was running dry. Now, the city is looking at groundwater use for water security. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Town_water_crisis www.groundup.org.za/article/cape-town-using-aquifers-responsible/

[@nowmindfulheart]

@@qvintuse.urvind7002 thatz excellent info, thanx. You touched on my question. Of all the groundwater there is a subset of groundwater that cannot be replenished in one human lifetime; maybe a thousand years. Reno NV for example has tapped into a large area deep aquafir that is being "mined". It is irreplaceable. My guess is that the total global amount of such water is minuscule in the overall scheme of things, but / and is it enough to somehow alter the performance of the hydro cycle? Or perhaps, that is mostly irrelevant and we can wonder about how much additional water is in the atmosphere and surface water because we are pumping it out faster than it can return to its original aquafirs.

[@papel5593]

another awesome video

[@glenmccarthy8482]

If only the oceans , had been fresh water.

[@JustHaveaThink]

Don't tell that to all the salt water fish. They would all explode in fish water ;-)

[@ashleylaw]

It is not 'evaporation' the water is not boiling. It is electric differential chemical reaction. That strips the top layers of molecules transforming solid water to Crystal to Vapour to clouds. How they stayaloft..is another story.

[@ashleylaw]

@grindupBaker Electrochemistry. But hey. You been lied to all your life.

[@johnsera6771]

Have you researched various technologies for turning desert into arable land, like liquid nanoclay, or the Groasis Waterboxx?

[@balasubr2252]

We seem to have concluded that nature has created its best and from this point on everything is only going to deteriorate. What if nature has more beautiful things yet to create? I am of the opinion nature is just getting started and more beautiful things are yet to emerge. In another 100 million years nature is likely to have created unimaginable beauty and varieties no matter how much think or no think we have or not!!

[@tomhall7633]

Most of the agricultural productivity here in Colorado developed around the vast seasonal storage of water in the Rocky Mountain high country in the form of snow pack. As climate chaos has made this resource less predictable in the near term and potentially non existent as the Southwestern US continues to move toward a warmer and drier future, industrial agriculture as currently practiced in much of the heartland will cease to exist. As much painful an adjustment as this will cause to people in this region of the world, it pales in comparison to the climate change invoice to be visited upon the population of South Asia. As the Tibetan glaciers disappear and the Himalayan reservoirs of snow and ice succumb to the warming biosphere, three of the most populous nations on the planet, armed with suspicion, animus, and nuclear weapons will fight over the insufficient remaining resource. Climate Strike Sept 23rd, Our leaders have failed, now it is up to us. Thanks Dave.

[@JustHaveaThink]

Very true and wise words Tom. It's gonna be messy :-(

[@ecospider5]

So 23% of our worlds farm land produces 83% of the world calories. So we don’t have to become vegetarians we just need to cut our meat intake by 50%. Since 77% of farm land currently produces meat, 50% reduction in meat would free up 77% divided by 2 or 38.5% of our farmland for vegetables. More than doubling the farmings calorie output. This seems easily done just by economics of supply and demand. Meat will become more expensive people will eat less of it. Make sure we don’t subsidize cattle or cattle feed. And do subsidize growing vegetables. Done and done. Ok maybe not that easy but definitely not a world ending problem. That being said I don’t eat cows milk (unless it’s frozen) and I only eat 8oz of animal protein a week.

[@davidwilkie9551]

A few molecules of significance on the tip of the iceberg..

[@MiniLuv-1984]

I wonder what difference cultured meat would make on water use? I can imagine the day when factories churning out cultured meat at a fraction of the cost of slaughtered animal meat. Would the reduction in cattle stocks throughout the world actually make a substantial difference to water demands?

[@JustHaveaThink]

My understanding is that it is significantly less impactful.

[@AngrySpartan9311]

Once again New Zealand gets left off the map!

[@JustHaveaThink]

Sorry Chris. It was an animation I used last year and I forgot to update it. I know you guys have admonished me for this before so I can only apolgise once again. I really will try to get it right next time!

[@ImplyDods]

Wasn't New Zealand once omitted from a world map on your own government website? Absolute disgrace. Then again could it be because you don't want to share your hidden gem?

[@AngrySpartan9311]

Thanks @@JustHaveaThink. Can you maybe make nz a bit bigger than Australia when you do update it? They wont mind.

[@tomhall7633]

@@AngrySpartan9311 This moved mountains or as an equivalent, it made me laugh!

[@xchopp]

Great video -- but we'd appreciate the sources for the stats. Ta!

[@JustHaveaThink]

You're quite right xchopp. I'm normally very careful to do this, but I committed the cardinal sin of racing against a clock this weekend and as a result I overlooked this fundamental principle. My apologies. Here are the links (which I've also just added to the Descripton box) www.livekindly.co/60-of-all-mammals-on-earth-are-livestock-says-new-study/ www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/freshwater/freshwater-crisis/ www.sciencedaily.com/terms/water_scarcity.htm water2return.eu/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/FAO_How_to_Feed_the_World_in_2050.pdf www.unenvironment.org/news-and-stories/press-release/half-world-face-severe-water-stress-2030-unless-water-use-decoupled ourworldindata.org/land-use

[@SuperVlerik]

Curious if you've compared water use between "conventional", eg industrial, beef production vs grass.fed beef in a temperate climate such as the UK. Same for battery raised chicken vs organic /regenerative pastured chicken.

[@MattAngiono]

Conspiracy goes into this.... it's not pretty

[@JustHaveaThink]

My understanding of the stats is that they are dominated by the industrial numbers simply by dint of sheer scale. I suspect if the organic practices were seperated out they would show a far lower water requirement, but that is only pure supposition on my part.

[@charlieking7551]

The argument I have heard is that with grass fed animals the water they are consuming is essentially free - rainfall absorbed into the grass which they then consume. the water would otherwise be lost anyway.

[@PeterKnagge]

Again JHAT wants to conveniently put all the blame on the agricultural industry and ignore the majority of global technology/environmental/political/religious/economic/social abuse comes from the cities, and an environment of poor mental health and mind pollution. Please check out my new updated comment below for my suggestions for global solutions.

[@PeterKnagge]

Sorry for sounding like a broken record but I need to repeat myself until the message gets across. The debate should not be about “climate change”, “global warming”, “global mass extinction”, the debate should be “waste is a resource”. The technology already exists to recycle all agricultural waste, human waste, industrial waste, either to be recycled into new product materials, or into renewable energy biofuels, natural fertilisers, or incinerated for energy. Farm Biofuel & Bioreactors: kzbin.info/aero/PLSvWGnIGLTtnIZsxC45-OVX4GdWRdSRSk There already exists micro-algae technology that utilises natural photosynthesis carbon capture which will change city smog, CO2 and other greenhouse gases into oxygen, water, natural fertilisers and biofuels, etc. More info on micro-algae natural photosynthesis biofuels and carbon capture: “The algae revolution” kzbin.info/aero/PLSvWGnIGLTtmfU9aJD6aHHBanUok_aFXN *Both the technologies from the playlists use the **_12 Principles of Green Chemistry_** . If you haven’t heard of Green Chemistry or want to learn more the playlist is here:* kzbin.info/aero/PLSvWGnIGLTtkdFZC4bXIRft4VeJeR7LHA *Prepare to have your mind blown!* These technologies compliment nature instead of working on top of it. It’s not the perfect solution for everything but nothing is. However these technologies will subtract greenhouse gases and our environmental footprint and is a start until we figure out something better. As well as Green Chemistry the government budgets should also be increased for building connected designated cycleways and public transport infrastructure particularly around education centres. A variety of different renewable energy, other genuine solutions and training should be promoted to choose from for impoverished and remote communities to make it easy to adapt and keep their existing technology instead of implementing eco-nazi self righteous scare campaigns and governmental nanny state totalitarian banning regimes forcing the unrealistic expectation that 3rd world countries can afford to buy all new equipment and technology. More emphasis should be placed on global mental health education and care. World leaders in all industries should have to be psychologically assessed for Narcissistic Personality Disorder and other personality disorders before being allowed leadership roles. Mental health should be taught in schools. Using Game Theory science, it is a fact that cooperation is always the most successful survival strategy. #QuestionAuthority #EverythingChanges Stay safe and good luck!

[@davidcrane7397]

A great video - thanks. But what about the contribution of sea food, you didn’t include that?

[@JustHaveaThink]

Hi David. That's a fair shout. That may make a programme in it's own right in fact. I'll have a look it this for future research. All the best. Dave

[@logik100.0]

How does the beef use that much water? Do they drink it from the mains? Or is it that the cows eat the grass that has had that much fallen on it as rain.

[@JustHaveaThink]

It's based on agribusiness numbers - all the water required to rear and 'harvest' 1kg of beef. So that's not just the water the animal drinks but all the water required to produce the soy and other starchy foodstfuffs that they eat, plus water loss involved in land stripping for pasture, and other things like transport etc.

[@Jimmy4video]

Excellent video. I thought the point about increasing meat demand with rising incomes and population was particularly interesting. Looks like we will be priced out of eating meat or have to accept event more industrial/inhumane farming practices. Will it take hitting the wall for us to realise business as usual can't continue?

[@camlinhall1363]

Shocking facts delivered with a sense of humour are most memorable. Weird backing track. But Great video

[@CheapHomeTech]

Maybe you can do a video analyzing the destruction, pollution, and energy consumption each human does. And the humans it produces on down the years. I have a feeling the only way we can save this planet is to get our population back down to something that can live in harmony with the world instead of tearing down everything and building disgusting houses, streets, and strip malls on top of it.

[@valhala56]

Stop meat.

[@julesgiddings8747]

Your videos are amazing and so informative, thank you! 😊👍

[@richardbeaumont7960]

The steak/water thing seems a bit silly. So you have a cow grazing on an acre of pasture, and the entire rainfall over that pasture for 18 months is how they measure the cow's water consumption? I guess knowing how those figures were arrived at would be useful. Somehow I doubt that the cow drank all that!

[@JustHaveaThink]

Hi Richard. I've now added the research links in the description box - something I normally do every week but I completely overlooked this week because I was up against the clock. Apologies for this omission. I hope the links are of some help in further explaining how the numbers are derived. All the best. Dave.

[@onnot701]

I have a hard time believing het amount of water is needed for 1kg beef. I do understand that meat is intensive for water and food. But the numbers feel blown up. How is this calculated? What amount of water is recycled? If you say 15k liter of water for 1 kg beef. What is the price for a liter of water the farmer pays? Can we compare this to what the beef is cost to produce, this is a metric to see if the 15k is true or exaggerated? Anyhow thx for the very informative movies. I'll try at least to reduce the meet in my diet.

[@JustHaveaThink]

Hi Onno. I should have included this link in the description box (which I will do in a moment). There's a chart of various foodtypes and the relative water requirements, plus a bit of explanation about how those numbers are derived. www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/jan/10/how-much-water-food-production-waste

[@bazarov3857]

@akbrs Listened to the video. It's tendentious and full of lies and inaccuracies. But it's just the kind of thing many people like to listen to, i.e. people with a bad conscience or bad habits, or both, who will clutch at straws to justify their egoism, lack of compassion and mindless destruction of the planet. Professor Mitlowhatever is obviously in the pay (whether directly or indirectly) of the meat industry.

[@anamariacarvalho6738]

Being vert dincere about water use. Well as a meteorologist, as I am, I would say some uses are a crime

[@petemcfadyen1697]

How much to produce a Kilo of Human?

[@lelandthompson2267]

380 is how many gallons? If you want to think out-of-the-box you have to be inclusive.

[@lelandthompson2267]

15500.... Quik answer. How many quarts. There could be one or two Americans that click on this one. Why don't U have a gray water Kithche sink that went directly into a rain barrel so U can water UR plants... & Be part of the solution.

[@SidneyBoud]

Where will we get the warming? My understand is that weather becomes colder and warmer we have had the warmer period and are going into the colder period,

[@lindsayforbes7370]

👍👍👍

[@apuuvah]

And how much oil?!

[@Magda-ko6gj]

That is why going vegan is one of the biggest thing you can do to help save this wonderful earth, the Amazon is being destroyed to make room to raise cattle for meat or to grow grains to feed those cattle.

[@ImplyDods]

Oh dear. I praised you last week for your rounded impartial views. What happened? Could you tell me where you got your information on water consumption and what type of farming /where that relates to? You also neglected to point out that animals more often than not graze on land unsuitable for crop growth and you only talk about calories rather than nutrition. obviously am going to struggle to counter your arguments until I know where your information is from but I do look forward to it. I still have an open mind and hopefully will learn something from this potential debate. 👍👍

[@JustHaveaThink]

Hi Andrew. I omitted to put the research links in the description box intiially , which is a cardinal error on my part - my apologies. They are there now though. The numbers are of course based on the big agri-busineeses, so I'm mindful that the other types of agriculture that are gaining traction around the world are (thankfully) far less impactful, but I would gently suggest that this side of the argument does need to be presented in order to maintain the rounded view you mentioned.

[@ImplyDods]

@@JustHaveaThink I whole heartedly agree, however the presentation was a bit sensationalist. More towards the daily mail than the independent . That was certainly what I got from it and to use water figures as you did without explanation to your followers what that actually looks like in real terms was a little disappointing. I will take a look at your studies tomorrow and see if we come up with the same conclusions. I am, on a side note painfully aware of my own investment in certain ideas and also the bias of google algorithms to take me to somewhere I feel comfortable. If only we could turn them off.

[@ImplyDods]

@akbrs just watching it... Fantastic information, thank you 👌

[@ronkirk5099]

Depletion of "fossil" groundwater is a major problem in the U.S. Growing corn for conversion to ethanol and growing alfalfa in the desert for the diary industry doesn't make any sense at all. Very short sighted. When groundwater is over pumped (water use faster than the recharge rate), the aquifer is compacted and looses it's ability to recharge even if pumping rate is reduced to the recharge rate. This is permanent damage.

[@radixs]

Would it be possible to - in simple terms - explain how so many liters of water is being 'used up' while making a steak? After all, it is not like all this water is contained in this one piece of meat. So where all this water go that it is considered to be used up? Isn't it that all this water is constantly being recycled and recirculated to keep the production up? It is not like I support the meat oriented diet, I eat mostly plant based food and look forward to the future where inventions like impossible foods replace meat completely but still some people might find it odd that you stack so many containers and say all this water is being stuffed into making a single piece of a steak. Is it that just that all the production processes divert the water from the natural environment?

[@JustHaveaThink]

HI Radixs - it's pretty much what you say in your last sentence. It's based on agribusiness numbers - all the water required to rear and 'harvest' 1kg of beef. So that's not just the water the animal drinks but all the water required to produce the soy and other starchy foodstfuffs that they eat, plus water loss involved in land stripping for pasture, and other things like transport etc. The video title was perhaps a little misleading in that case.

[@radixs]

@@JustHaveaThink yeah, that is what I meant. Instead of 'how much water is in my steak' it would be better to say 'of how much water is the environment depraved indefinately to support production of steaks'. I know the mechanics since I am into this topic so I do not need explanation. I am thinking about whether it would be a good idea to make a video that would explain to ordinary people what does it mean that the environment is depraved of a certain amount of water. Most people cannot think in abstract terms, percentages and do not understand the complex net of relationships that go in a nature. You are doing a great job with your videos but they are consumable mostly to the people that are capable of a somewhat deeper understanding and appreciation of nature. A video that you can refer to when talking with ordrinary people made in TL;DR manner would be useful to have in your channel.

[@bobjohnson9731]

I truly enjoy your videos. However this video has two glaring mistakes based on one missing piece of the cycle as it related to water cycle for agriculture and meat production. Thought you should know.

[@MrGonzonator]

So, what about sea farmed fish? They can make use of salty water, and provide high quality protein. I appreciate that fish feed will require a lot of fresh water, as do the freshwater smoltings, but it must be a good deal less than meat? Or how about RAS (recirculating aquaculture systems)?

[@daniellunqvist7055]

So we all gona eat fish do, witch is good if it's fish enough on our ocean. mixed cultures of food is all left to do I think.

[@MattAngiono]

There's huge problems with these... they are not the magic they might seem.... toxic waste and feed are just two...

[@MrGonzonator]

@@MattAngiono in RAS the byproducts are all contained. They need no pesticides or antibiotics as they are completely sterile environments. The water is constantly recycled and the waste is reprocessed into fertiliser. Or so I'm led to believe.

[@Herr_Vorragender]

How about insects? Or if worried about proteins, how about kidney beans and legumes? I believe it might be a better idea to think about a way to address the antiquated belief that meat equals wealth and status.

[@MattAngiono]

@@MrGonzonator I was referring to the fish farms.... aquaponics is a smart option, but we shouldn't be obsessed with protein any more. Plant based provides ALL the protein you need!

[@vinylnutter]

you missed the drink out?

[@richardglover314]

No individual living organism has precedence for being alive.But only humans have the capacity to exercise control of natural forces. So how do we galvanise opinion to be unselfish and sustainable? Ironically I feel we will need certain island states (not literally islands) to selfishly lead the way. Places like Australia, China and North America. That means not only closing their boarders to human migration but to food imports. Could the UK feed it's current population without imports if it had to? Will we only take sustainability seriously when we are at breaking point? I think the first universal thing we must accept as humans is that each and every one of us should only reproduce ourselves, ie. we have no more than two children each. Which is a bit rich coming from someone like me with three children.

[@watmosphere]

2 children? lol that would be a wonderful achievement for the West world because now all its nations have fertility rate less than 2 and East Asia too, India and South America are rapidly coming to less than 2, only Africa and a bit of muslim countries have more than 2 childre per woman.

[@richardglover314]

@@watmosphere Yes those are the figures at the moment but what I am talking about is universal acceptance. Without acceptance of universal ideas people become complacent or despondent.What do you feel should be the first universally accepted principle to a sustainable human controlled world if it is not the number of us humans?

[@northavealum]

According to the 2019 CIA Fact Book, fertility rates in 2019 for almost all Africa, the west coast of South America, and most of Central America are all higher than 2, but only Africa is substantially higher - at rates that are unbelievably off the charts. The U.S., Canada, Europe, China and Russia, Australia are all materially below simple "replacement." The huge disparity in ferterlity between Africa and the rest of the World, combined with Africa's rampant poverty, as well as its lack of economic and political stability make the prospects for conflict and disaster quite high. The rest of the World better help Africa get its act together before self preservation drives other continents and countries to start closing borders and shutting down immigration. By "get its act together," I mean Africa population has to become sustainable - and fertility rates substantially above 2 are not sustainable if Africa is to feed, clothe and house its own people.

[@Chimel31]

The worst culprit is the beef that comes from cull dairy cows: they produce many gallons of milk, piss and transpiration every day (i.e. mostly water), on top of their rich diet of proteins, grain and silage that also require a lot of water to grow. More and more land is irrigated in order to ensure a crop. I barely eat beef anymore. Mostly ground beef, mixed with ground pork to stuff baked vegetables in summer, or to stuff briks (thin oriental crepes), like 5-6 times a year. And some beef to stew (several great French recipes to try), maybe 4 times a year. I rarely eat out or use processed food, I cook my meals, so it's easier to avoid beef while having a very diversified diet. After we have roast chicken, I "recycle" the bones by boiling them for a vegetable soup or to cook rice. And then the boiled carcass becomes soft and René the cat recycles it too in its own way and barely leaves a bone...

[@richardgray2706]

There is a fundamental misunderstanding of water cycles. People do not remove water from the environment raising crops and domestic anim\ als instead they constantly interact with a vast interactive network of life in\ cluding soils, plants, and animals. Yes, raising cattle (or any thing else for\ that matter) utilize lots of water, but water is the key agent for transferrin\ g nutrients within biomes. A farmer/rancher is not just raising cattle, you are\ also supporting (fertilizing) the land, soil, grasses, trees, etc, around them\ . There is a relevant Ted talk about it by Alan Savory (www.ted.com/talks\ /allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change?lang=\ en).

[@richardgray2706]

Sorry about the formatting, I tried to cleanup the comment and it ended up mucking it up.

[@AdrianHepburn-vz9yr]

Must suck to live to in the UK.

[@REGENETARIANISM]

You have no clue how beef cattle production is done and even less clue how water footprints are derived. Even in the United States, with the most feedlot capacity , approximately 85% of the beef cattle inventory is on grass grazing on cow/calf and stocker operations. Only yearlings being finished are in feedlots. So beef cattle spend the first 1/2 to 2/3 of their lives on grass Cattle are not finished on soy meal. Soy meal is fed primarily to pigs and chickens as well as pets. With water footprints, 98% of that number is the water needed to grow feed, forage or grasses. With grass finished cattle 98% of that 98% is green water also known as RAIN. With feedlot finished cattle, around 92% of that 98% is green water. Blue water is what's critical NOT green water. Moreover, where cattle graze, grasses take a lot LESS water than crops. This is why there's a lot more marginal land that can be used for grazing than there is arable land that can be used for crops. Water footprints also do NOT account for soil health. Where cattle are well managed, grasses sequestered carbon. This stored carbon improves the soil structure, so rain can permeate into soil, and more water can be retained by soil. Thus well managed cattle on stocker, and cow-calf operations can INCREASE the amount of ground water in ecosystems even if most of the yearlings end up in a feedlot to be finished.

[@landcruisingdoc4137]

Perhaps the reason for so called more frequent extreme events is that almost everyone in the world has a cellphone and can communicate events instantly worldwide. In the old times it would take the Pony Express a couple of weeks to cross the country and it's only been about 200 years that humans have kept a record of weather events (mostly in the US and in Europe), a blink of an eye compared to the time period of naturally variable weather cycles!

[@voiceforjusticeandproporti5543]

As far as I am aware, identification of extreme events is not done on the basis of reporting. To get reliable data, direct meteorological data is used. I don't think climate scientists looking at extreme weather are so stupid as to not notice such obvious selection bias.

[@ArthursHD]

10:15 Where are seaweeds, clamps, and fish (farmed and wild)? (Also wild bird and animal hunting is excluded)

[@brentkn]

How much water is in you?

[@galerinha]

The calculation for beef is incorrect as it is accounting for the rain where the cattle eat grass. There's a good video on this topic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZXVmaOKndafedE

[@modvs1]

Non extensional utility- nothing new under the sun.

[@shantaloft]

?Where is the fat.

[@anamariacarvalho6738]

Hi ots me Ana from Brasil

[@zatar123]

I'm sorry but I have to call you out on your water numbers here. You are presenting the amount of water a cow drinks during its lifetime as if it took that much to get just the couple of steaks you have there. If you are going to count all the water going in at least count all the meat you get out. And let us not overlook the amount of water that comes back out of the cow within a day or so of when the cow drinks it.

[@ramblerandy2397]

I am in constant agreement with the directions and details of these videos, and this week is no different. But I'm going to propose a different scenario as far as population growth is concerned. There has been growing talk [and a wee bit of evidence only that I've seen] that population is going to peak out in the next couple of decades, and the odd pundit is even talking about a population fall or collapse. If that scenario proved true, that would undoubtedly change things dramatically. Whilst that might be desirable on the surface, one would have to remember that the demographics would change dramatically also. The average age would shift to older, as people live longer and fewer births occur. Then again, with a smaller younger workforce, who might pay the taxes? Would this be covered by taxing automation? It's an interesting side effect, which has both possible benefits and challenges. And Dave? I'm wondering whether it is within the scope of this channel to attempt a video on it. That was sneaky of me. 😎 Another good video this week. I think my mentor's favourite subject at Uni was all about "the right kind of rain." In the future are several zones going to adopt full scale desalination? I suspect they might.

[@JustHaveaThink]

Hi Andy. Thanks for your feedback. That's a fascinating nugget of info about the possible population reversal. As you say, it would bring in all sorts of complicated dynamics but it would certainly change the game completely. I do keep an eye on geo-politics (at least as far as an average layman is able to ) - I think there is a very real chance of several "correction" events occurring in the next decade or so. My fear is that not many of them will involve voluntary curtailment of human behaviour. I suspect the two big ones will be global economic crisis (might be already coming), and major regional conflicts (which could flare up at any time). Definitely worth a video though Andy, I agree. I'll stick on the reseacrh list :-)

[@ramblerandy2397]

@@JustHaveaThink Hmm, these correction events you mention are notably human induced. We don't have to go there if we do the right thing worldwide. Long predicted water wars are avoidable. The odd country is getting there. Some countries are slowly recognising their responsibilities, and others are still going in the wrong direction. No prizes for guessing which is which. See you in a fortnight. 👍

[@mikesmotors3007]

How about we stop worrying about feeding people who have to many children. Chocolate uses the most water so stop that first and see if we need to worry.

[@petemcfadyen1697]

Mr. Hat has a habitual and probably delusional dependency on statistics.

[@northavealum]

Are you suggesting that the statistics he quotes are fake or what? Why would using statistics - particularly if they are from a transparent source - be "delusional?" If you want to refute specific statistics or his conclusions then do so, but your comment does nothing to advance the discussion.

[@JustHaveaThink]

HI Pete. They are not my statistics. Here is the link to the article on a report from the Institution of Mechanical Engineers. www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/jan/10/how-much-water-food-production-waste

[@manatoa1]

@@JustHaveaThink I don't think you read the source. It's just a little bit more than a repeat of the tiny table in the body of the article. Totally useless.

[@mcel6551]

So you’re not vegan?

[@cyruschadrezzar]

yes, the human print needs to come way down. but i trust the handlers' interests will be up to the task.

[@cyruschadrezzar]

Memphis'T Thinline, Scharpach Master Guitars this sounds about right

[@MattAngiono]

How much water is in that glass of milk? Certainly we all need to accept a vegan future, if we want any future at all...

[@MattAngiono]

@Joe Milosch we need more truth... but it's hard to face where we're at

[@buddha1736]

“I like my Beef 🥩 Streak marinated in Lime juice, Sea salt and black Pepper & a little chilli 🌶 powder, cooked for 3 minutes on both sides.”😉😋

[@buddha1736]

akbrs 🥩😋

[@cbromley562]

Good! Enjoy it while you can.

[@camlinhall1363]

Lets all die happy. MMM... filet marinated in Lime ju..

[@bazarov3857]

You an egoistic, self-centred, unfeeling, vulgar ignoramus. Why should any sentient being die for the likes of you to indulge in your carnivorous habits? Moreover, by eating hormone- and antibiotic-saturated meat (not to speak of toxins and salt) you are ruining your heath...which might not be a bad thing, coming to think of it.

[@r3v0l98]

go vegan, meateaters!!

[@FredCompusmurf]

No, it doesn't take that much water per kilo of product as most will be recycled. If it were true, we would've run out of ALL water long time ago!

[@brucecampbell6133]

What?

[@michalsidorow9407]

Love it first you show how terrible it is and then you try to mitigate the picture with, oh but we are humans and we have free will and can change things xD and as we can see by passing years we can change only to make things faster and more devastating to environment. Seriously the science is ok but rest is pure bullshi*. We are done as spiecies enjoy :)

[@tamaking7104]

Evo- lution....Ever- Dreaming !!! There is neither proof nor evidence for life originating by evolution. Evolution makes a nice bed time story. Every culture has them. As for me, I'd rather honour our Creator when speaking f the origin of life. The incredibly complex information system of DNA that life is based on can only have come from an intelligent source. There is stronger evidence for creation by an intelligent Creator than there is for the arrival of life through some kind of evolution through materialistic and random means . .

[@qvintuse.urvind7002]

There is no proof at all for creation, but there is plenty of evidence for evolution, and recently also emerging research into the origin of life. I think your time would be better spent looking into that, than trying to promote creationism where there is no reason whatsoever to even mention such false ideas.

[@dystopiaeatsmoney]

🌱VEGAN 🌳MINIMALIST 🌿RESOURCE BASED ECONOMY 🌲 Edit: Tumble weed.........shuffle..........cough.........famine, war and pestilence ain’t so bad.......