How much would you pay for Hot Wheels Unleashed?

[@sammya7117]

I'm sure the lads won't see this, but I just wanted to put forward my thoughts. I am absolutely loving the current gaming content. I have been a loyal Hat Films fan for YEARS now, but cannot find time in my day to watch their streams very often. This has led to me going from a Hatter that has always been completely up to date on inside jokes, moments, and current themes, to someone feeling quite out of the loop. The current gaming videos (not to mention the amazing vlogs on the main channel) have brought back the nostalgic delight of a few years ago. Despite the fact they have never met me, the three lads have been a huge part of my life, and it's lovely to have some 'old' normality back. Of course, things change and progress is essential, but it's nice to feel engaged again.

[@Doomcraftian]

They never stopped releasing the gaming videos though, so why did you feel out of the loop?

[@sammya7117]

@@Doomcraftian Out of the loop of in-jokes, themes, and relevant discussions. Out of the loop as a member of their community rather than as a consumer of their content, if that makes sense?

[@Doomcraftian]

@@sammya7117 Ah so you were still watching their daily content, you just felt you were missing out on stuff with the community

[@natalyst]

I feel exactly the same tbh, haha. I really dislike streams, I don't like the flow being interrupted so they can thank fatbutt420 for using their prime 6 months in a row. But these last few videos, the red dead and bigfoot ones especially have definitely just felt like their old content!

[@Doomcraftian]

@@natalyst The way they do streams is actually really good, instead of thanking subs and stuff during gameplay they just play for like 30 minutes to an hour then take a 5 minute break where they thank people and play again, so the gameplay isn't actually interrupted by stuff like that

[@TortiousActs]

The exact conversation I expected while watching Hot Wheels.

[@fezzverbal]

I was sitting here thinking this game looks cool, expecting a £20-£30 price. £50?! Nah. For that I want a lot more features!

[@larkinggames1060]

The game is not £50, I paid £30, it’s £35 at most

[@jekanyika]

@@larkinggames1060 It's currently £39.99 on Steam.

[@larkinggames1060]

@@jekanyika ah pc yeah, was thinking console physical, my bad. hate digital.

[@SpaceDogLaika]

I think the people who say "i'm creating a job for them" are the same people who don't use trash cans "so the cleaners have something to do"

[@xCPTxNEMO]

Mr. Smith’s choice of facial hair and manner of discussing the subjects at hand, certainly do give him a teacher vibe.

[@Flashjackmak]

You guys should buy £50 worth of lottery tickets and then see how many Hot Wheels cars you can get with the winnings from the tickets in order to prove... Well, nothing really, but I get a vicarious thrill from those lottery videos you did. Okay, maybe don't drop money into the lottery, but doing some kinda comparison between £50 of this game and £50 of real Hot Wheels could be cool.

[@impcgaming6560]

I agree with Ross a lot of people will only read a headline and think they know the entire story.

[@PureOctarine]

Yeh exactly. I read a story the other day about how misinformation is being spread around so prominently now because false click bait titles are being used and that's all people read. At least, that's what the headline said, I didn't actually read the rest.

[@minor_edit]

I'd pay about £25 for it personally, seems reasonable

[@em_birch]

tbf you *CAN* get the gist of certain stories just from the headline

[@Apodeipnon]

You see this with literally every story on Reddit. Then there's like one guy that has actually read the article in the comments somewhere, pointing something out maybe, and getting a fraction of the attention.

[@DarkRulaMedia]

It's honestly difficult to say what a game is worth. Mario Kart feels like it's worth every penny, to use the example given. Sure, there's only 32 tracks and around 30 characters, with no real meat to get stuck into. But all the tracks feel lovingly crafted, full to the brim with detail, and the mechanics are completely solid even if item balance can be an issue. As such, it feels insanely replayable even solo. Compared to Hot Wheels Unleashed... It has a campaign of sorts with a few branching paths and a few secrets to solve, but once it's done you're left with a completely half-assed rest of the game. You have a brilliant track creator (and livery editor) but no options for discovering that content other than a list that shows what was most recently shared. And that thing was kinda the major selling point of the game. It was within the first trailer released for the game, and then interviews later said the devs used that track creator to create all of their races for the game. I could list a few more grievances with it, but it's still a really fun game to play. I hold hope that Milestone are going to implement such discoverability options to the game, as that would easily make the full £50 (£90 in my case for the Ultimate edition) feel a lot more worth it.

[@LarryRouse]

Completely agree. Just to strengthen your initial point, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe has 48 tracks, actually.

[@DarkRulaMedia]

And I wish Mario Kart 9 would also have that amount of tracks. More than likely, though, we're back to 32.

[@DirkVomEck]

I really like the 50 pounds video idea! Send out the lads (& Craig!) individually and see what they will buy for 50 quid each and if it offers more entertainment/enjoyment than most AAA titles today!

[@harrisongill5004]

Allen Smaffs tache though, loving it

[@magus2003]

This game feels halfway there. Its too slow to be a Fzero/ExtremeG racer clone, its more in line with a MarioKart clone. So it needs weapons. They could even justify the price by getting permision to use Nerf branding and have missiles that are nerf foam missiles. Or water guns as opposed to machine guns or whatever. Kinda a shame, because it looks good, and seems to play good, but is just falling short.

[@elphiefanful]

It's nothing like mario kart. people need to stop comparing something to the most well known thing

[@magus2003]

@@elphiefanful How do you figure? Boost mechanic off start, color pallete, light hearted action as oppsed to sim, drifting, rubber banding. The reason you compare a thing to the most well known version of the thing is BECAUSE its the most well known version of the thing. If I compared it to Turbomania 2012, how many would be able to realize wth Im talking about? But everyone knows Mario Kart.

[@elphiefanful]

@@magus2003 About the only thing there is the boost. And that's such a common thing in racers, it's an irrelevance. The other stuff is totally superficial. Just because it's most well known, does not make it a fair comparison. Mario kart with it's weapons immediately puts it in a separate category. This is a pure racer with obstacles. Define your arguments. A far more fair comparison would be to Trackmania. And if people don't know it, they need to actually research it before making a comment.

[@magus2003]

@@elphiefanful Hot wheels employee huh? "Pure Racer" in a game with infinite drift, boost off of start, and tornadoes that fling you into walls. Nah mate, this is half a silly arcade racer. They went some of the way with the vertical racing, and the tornadoes and jumps, but decided to pull back from embracing that sillyness. Dont get me wrong, I like the game. I just feel its half a game and it falls way short of its competitors. Hopefully your company willl go all in on it instead of halfway, because theres a lot of potential there.

[@cameronwilsey9334]

@@magus2003 Yeah. To me it feels like Mario Kart minus the items and Nintendo charm

[@MrWolfJack]

I am not a scientist or educator, but from what I know/remember light does not have mass and anything with mass cannot go the speed of light. The LHC has gotten particles up to 99.9% though!

[@bitspacemusic]

I had the white (Lotus?) James Bond car as a kid. It had four spring loaded missiles in the back. The springs were ridiculously powerful. You fired it indoors and the little orange missile would just bounce around and you'd have to go look for it. I fired them outdoors to see how high they would go. Three stories easily.

[@luigiff3431]

Welcome to another episode of "Alex Smith overcomplicates an issue and loses track of the problem people are trying to solve"

[@ThePankreas99]

I appreciate his attempt to look at a larger motivation behind the topic. He's not losing track of the problem, he's attempting to understand the motivation behind the solution to the problem. He never denied that fake news and misleading information are a major problem in the world today. He expressed his skepticism of the solution quite early, and transitioned the conversation into trying to understand the motivation in order to better present his opinion on a quality alternative to the solution he was skeptical of. Otherwise he's just an ass hole who doesn't like the solution and doesn't care to come up with anything better.

[@connork8321]

So you can't criticize without offering solutions? That sounds like a dumb arbitrary rule pulled from nowhere...

[@LiruJenkins]

Nah what he's saying makes sense. If you have a tool to combat misinformation, how can you be sure the developers aren't being paid off on either side? If it's using machine learning then what's stopping people from finding out how to exploit it like with KZbin or Google? It's a complex social and technological problem and it's okay to question supposed solutions without having your own solutions to it.

[@em_birch]

I'm not the type of person who feels entitled enough to demand content creators only talk about certain things, and I appreciate the fact that the boys *DO* talk about whatever they want, but Jesus if I can't get through talks like that. It's probably because of my own mental health, but shit like that just...brings me down. I always finish the vids though!

[@natalyst]

journalism is dead and no amount of "unbiased" AI (which is only as unbiased as the people that wrote the code) will ever fix it i like the funny overpriced toy car game :)

[@loganl7547]

I think in all honesty, you can never create or expect something to be created that is unbiased, because at the opposite end of the "Creation > Consumption" supply chain you have bias people consuming the information, a bias person will disbelieve anything they didn't previously believe to be true, and will believe anything that confirms what they already believed, obviously this isn't 100% of the time, but it's enough of the time that it's virtually impossible to rally people against an idea if they weren't against it before the rally. You will never convince the Saudi's that petroleum is bad for the environment, the same as you will never convince the Chinese, Canadians, or Brazilians that hydro electric dams obliterate water ways and aquatic environments, they've already formed their opinions and any information that contradicts their opinions is flagged as misinformation, bias information, or economic sabotage.

[@Apodeipnon]

@@loganl7547 it's hard to change people's minds, but people may change their own minds over time I think, provided they get exposed to the right information. That's why it's still quite bad that the media environment is as trash as it is, because it could be different I think. Economic questions are pretty different tho. Generally you can't expect people or countries to go against their own interests. You can only show them better ways to achieve their interests. Btw they did build a fish escalator for a hydro dam in China, as a proof of concept and it seems to work well. There are people who care about these issues and who are working on solutions, in some cases.

[@loganl7547]

@@Apodeipnon Yes, and one primary point in favour of people being able to change their minds is the global reduction in coal as a primary fuel source, but I think with coal at least, people could visibly see the harm all around them, in the form of thick black smoke, a lot of other forms of energy production have harms that are considerably less easy to detect, but the harm is in fact still there. The undersea current turbines are probably one of the best overall in terms of limiting environmental impact, unfortunately they aren't particularly effective at generating the massive power requirements of a country like China. Obviously solar is a great power generator as well, with very little environmental impact, but in terms of Watts per square meter of space used, they really suffer there, again a country like China just has too much power demand for pure solar to be capable of powering the entire country. Hydroelectric is probably the most economically sound (cheapest) way to produce energy while simultaneously balancing environmental friendliness, but it's not perfect, there are lakes and rivers all over the world that simply do not exist anymore because of massive hydroelectric projects... but that's just it isn't it? Balancing economy with the environment is somewhat necessary in the current global climate, if money didn't exist we'd be able to build whatever power systems we wanted to without concern of it's financial ramifications, but that just isn't the world we live in. There is of course a great argument in favour of nuclear energy, and if done right, responsibly that is, and built with quality of design over speed and cost of construction in mind, is a very safe form of energy production, and produces an absolutely massive amount of power per sq meter of space used and per kg of fuel consumed. I think, ultimately, our issue is and has always been, as a species, that we are always looking for the "Best Solution", singular, forgetting that diversity of solutions might actually be our salvation.

[@luckyrashes]

Wow, $90 to Buy HOT WHEELS UNLEASHED™ - Ultimate Stunt Edition

[@deadTheDrizzle]

For the record, the toys are not overpriced. They have been $1 since 1968.

[@Batnano]

said no one ever

[@deadTheDrizzle]

@@Batnano What?

[@Apodeipnon]

Based hot wheels

[@ff-pj3de]

About "creating work". I think this is, like so many things, context dependant. Smiffy touched on this, actually. Maybe some people really enjoy their job. Maybe for some, overtime is overcompensated, compared to their normal pay, or the workload is not actually that high, compared to work during regular hours (night-shifts, etc.) I think, the idea of not trying to create unnecessary work comes from a good place in general though, which is respecting the time of your fellow human being.

[@Apodeipnon]

I think it's mainly an issue because this is so anonymized with money. As long as you pay the price in money, you think you don't have to care about the actual consequences of your actions.. but they still play out obviously.

[@anon-nx4qe]

saying light has mass is like saying heat has mass.

[@TehAlekzi]

This feels like an indie game that I would pay 10€ for, no way 50€. If I wanted to play a good Hot Wheels racing game I would play Hot Wheels Turbo Racing that I had on PS1. That was a great game, it even had Metallica's Fuel song in the intro.

[@magpieblue]

Loving the Trials Fusion style discussion. If we could build a better society through education, compassion and acceptance, perhaps we wouldn't need an AI to try and counter our lies and manipulation.

[@PJohnDuke]

I had completely forgot they played trials fusion, used to be my favorite type of vid.

[@sqweeps6360]

Well said

[@Flashjackmak]

Amen to that. By that I mean both the pro-compassion stance _and_ the enjoyment of the Trials videos.

[@thehighground4446]

£50 for this is absolute theft. This seems like one of them games you find free on Xbox live or for some obscure price like £4.78. Definitely not the same caliber or price range as a modern AAA game.

[@zombockerman]

Doritos crash course type game

[@GretchenDawntreader]

I remember growing up it was so cool if you got ahold of a Matchbox car and turned it over and it said it was made in Lesney (England.) I wonder if it's not really unusual to people in England as it wouldn't be a rare import.

[@ioplup]

Smith if you are interested to learn more about the half track rocket launcher toy you had. It is a Wurfrahmen 40 mounted on a Sd.Kfz 251 halftrack Stuka is a dive bomber btw

[@OfficiallyANerd]

Light does not have mass but it does have momentum and will induce a small force on anything it hits.

[@VendyVendy]

The intense philosophical discussion overtop a Hot Wheels game was a great contrast hahaha.

[@jakekunz5168]

This game seems very much like just the bones of a full game. If they could add features that bring in the Rocket League fans it could be successful and worth the price

[@conorkelly947]

Bones of a full game for 50 quid anyone?

[@PatrickZysk]

The problem with AI is that it's made by humans, who have biases. It's not "unbiased" just because the people making it assume it is, because those people have biases that they don't even realize they're putting into their work.

[@anyotherdayortime]

good to see ned flanders getting some work post pandemic.

[@jayc342009]

Will you guys play more bigfoot with sips? That would be hilarious 😂

[@mattymerr701]

I feel like a chocolate bullet would work better than a sliver bullet against werewolves

[@samjones3167]

Trott seemed very annoyed with his chat in this 🤣

[@Apodeipnon]

Yea I can't imagine having twitch chat annoy you when you're trying to have a conversation like this. Probably a lot of silly messages

[@The1Scraf]

When do we get a video of craig using the wheel for this

[@MrZangetsu1997]

Not gonna lie, for me to afford a $100AUD game, I'd need to work an extra 4-5 hours (depending on the time of night), this is the reason why I normally research games I'm interested in and often wait for sales or buy a pre-owned copy because more often than not games aren't worth the AAA price tag

[@GregOfTheGaboon]

Big props to Craig for checking if that url was available so I didn’t have to 😂

[@loglog7]

Anyone else remember Planet Hotwheels? I think it was a browser based hotwheels game with a bunch of mini games. That was my shit in primary school.

[@sonaxaton]

smith making a lot of good points

[@timchronis1584]

You lads might enjoy Wipeout Omega for the PS5, classic high-action antigrav racing, quick to learn, hard to master, great track design

[@BeauSeevers]

smithy out here looking like Ned Flanders

[@46x1Problem]

That discussion was worth $74.99 NZD, the game not so much.

[@braelonwhitfield_eth1507]

It's Called NFT's Guys! They Can Do It All, Will They, Only Time Will Tell...

[@MH-hu5pi]

I think your talk about game pricing and FIFA buying skipped the fact that most of their money is coming from the FIFA booster packs buying. The surprise packs.

[@ashleytemple6481]

As an adult who collects hot wheels I feel attacked yet entertained

[@BarWuke]

'Made them stay on an extra hour' I mean, most hospitality jobs are filled with young students who are on minimum wage so that extra £6 aint goona help much.

[@blockchaaain]

This takes me back to Windows 95 and I'm trying to resist throwing nostalgia money at it lol

[@DjDolHaus86]

The 'extra hour' debate is all about choice or the illusion thereof. If I've just worked a full day and are comfortable with my wages then being asked to work an extra hour, even if for greater reward, is likely to be answered with a no because that extra reward is not viewed as being more valuable than my free time. The same could be said if I did want the extra money but I had plans after work that I didn't want to/couldn't rearrange, again the reward isn't worth the sacrifice. The problem comes when it's not exactly a choice, the problem comes when you are under pressure to do that extra hour not because of desire to earn extra but because you risk losing expected future earnings through losing favour with clients or whoever is paying your wage. It's being forced into doing work you didn't have to do for money you didn't need because someone important wanted you to do it. You're going to have to cancel that hot date you'd been working on for weeks or miss meeting up with that old friend who is only in town for one night because restaurant critic Ross turned up 10 minutes before closing and wants a lobster thermidor and if you say no your boss will blame you for making their restaurant look bad, while this may not result instant dismissal it will almost certainly result in less favourable shifts in future or being passed over when the chance for promotion arrives. It's low key racketeering, they can't fire you today because you've fulfilled your contractual obligations but they might fire you in a month under other pretences because you weren't willing to go above and beyond when they wanted you to. Whether you like it or not, they have power over you and you don't really have a choice

[@NukE30]

This game gives me Stunt GP vibes. I loved that game as a kid.

[@Bowler_Hat_Bartending]

As barron of Kent you are all forgiven

[@MegaJonny54321]

Fantastic video lads!

[@elphiefanful]

Having put a good few hours into this, it's well worth the money. The track editor itself is fantastic and you can dump dozens upon dozens of hours just into that before even getting into the racing portions

[@ABONKERSCHICKEN]

Do the cars drive and handle differently from one another?

[@elphiefanful]

@@ABONKERSCHICKEN They do. All have different stats that are upgradable

[@Lord_Edox]

Trott in the Nan's Milk-Mobile

[@Birdiex94x]

This was a great one today 🎉

[@Bashnag_gro-Dushnikh]

At the start of the video I would have said 30 €. But at the end I wouldn't be willing to pay more than 20 €.

[@IstasPumaNevada]

Dirt Rally, the first one, was and still is a really good rally game. It's my go-to whenever I want a sim-feeling rally game. (I'd go for Richard Burns Rally but it's long out of print and I don't own a copy, and I don't feel like risking computer herpes to get it).

[@dylanangel2870]

theres many files available and can confirm they work without herpes

[@OGCrave]

not worth the £40 price tag but its only £20 on cdkeys i think

[@ideadlift20kg83]

Which is primarily stolen keys.

[@theniallist5383]

@@ideadlift20kg83 Buying stolen keys for money grabbing companies like this is justified

[@Batnano]

*laughs in pirate*

[@Khrayfish]

Pirating > Buying stolen keys

[@roololing]

magic bullet is a blender guys

[@Arimil1234512345]

So basically they're creating the AI from Metal gear solid 2. Kojima literally predicted all of this with sons of liberty.

[@MDFranklin1]

smiffy with the Ned Flanders energy

[@zunalter]

People don't want truth they want comfortable lies. Any fact checking AI will amazingly conform to the political biases of the creators.

[@kewlkatzklub982]

the algorithm hath worked in thou favor for once hatters, forgotten all about you guys till I saw this recommended to me

[@eighty7]

Magnificent moustache.

[@danmcelhinney8478]

News media in general just needs to be entirely scrapped in the way it's run. Too many rules and regulations in place, different executives and content checking that can easily be used to mask alteration or censorship of certain news pieces, as well as the perspective they are shown from. There is also a lot of "donations" that come up when you look into a lot of news networks finances, some of the most notable being recent presidential administration's (both left and right) as well as foundations and businesses that politicians either own or hold large stakes in. The media should be free to report on whatever it chooses, with complete and unfaltering immunity from the governing bodies that they operate under, both in regard to gifts and donations of any kind as a method of acquiring favour, or through threat of inconvenience or harm. That isn't to say I don't think there should be some form of regulation in regard to the media. Networks should NEVER express ANY interest or investment in either side on any story presented. Journalism should be about informing the public on the fact of any and all situations. Those facts should never be presented in any way that could potentially influence the opinion of the public. If you want to debate policies and wish to spread your influence, then we need to have it on a different network, advertised as what it is, which is discussing the perspectives through debate and conformation. In summary, the news should be the facts, if you want to discuss an opinion, distaste or approval, you should do it elsewhere, in a place where such discussion can be expressed properly with an honest intention.

[@f15htechtips]

A hat films ad on a hat films video. I'll take it

[@umpum3963]

I think with the track creator, we could see some real good content like when the boiks did community tracks in GTAV

[@CrosswaIk]

How is this like Mario Kart? You can't just say every racing game is Mario Kart if it's not a sim.

[@edholmes8726]

Rocket league should really have created an alternate game mode like this… missed a trick there

[@zombockerman]

I love that they just shit on it

[@simplyorange8553]

I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANY MORE!

[@Sgt.Shadowsong]

Alright I need to get this out fast.. ANYONE REMEMBERS PLANET HOT WHEELS?!

[@ben3223]

hell yeah, I remember a T rex and fire and shit.

[@Sgt.Shadowsong]

@@ben3223 That was the bomb, wish they could've redone something like that instead.

[@Thoran666]

I think the thumbnail is supposed to be Ross holding Hotweels but it looks like Ross putting a pistol into his mouth.

[@DKArmstrong]

No one had high hopes for Dirt5, that game looked balls.

[@nikeeweston]

Hot wheels is in rocket league, they are big in the USA. It’ll be bought for Xmas for kids.

[@flangeclamp4239]

Not sure where the 50squid price tag came from coz Hot Wheels Unleashed is just 40squid on that there Steam? Not sure I'd buyt it but it doesn't seem too unreasonably priced imho.

[@BLARG812]

Hatter til I die

[@crown75au]

Plus the cost of Goods.... that has just gone down the drain...

[@StarFireFoxGaming]

If they stick the Wave Ripper Deora II in it, I’m game.

[@D3VYN3]

It's been confirmed it's gonna be added in the near future.

[@StarFireFoxGaming]

@@D3VYN3 Score

[@sebastianlodge7549]

Wow red dead 2 really has some great mini games.

[@PabloXCastle]

I remember back when hot wheels games were fucking free

[@em_birch]

...I go on websites. Plus I don't have a phone.

[@jimjamatam4127]

"Hey hotweels.. thank you for the keys, not sponsored but thank you" continues to slag off the game/ brand- Some hotweels PR person 😰

[@IndustrialBonecraft]

Snopes is pretty much already doing everything this thing is doing now?

[@NagasakiBladers]

Look up the price first instead of wildly overstating it

[@Haseri8]

Hot wheels track in the warehouse?

[@ChampTalos]

Matchbox was the brand of cars?

[@buntychunx7837]

Good chat

[@grrt722]

the whispered gfy

[@FinianBlaxhall]

I'd pay £12.99, max.

[@MeneMrMustard]

I enjoyed the conversation, but I'd much prefer to watch you guys play GTA V races. We can get the same banter with a better made game in the background.

[@garywilkinson1422]

Please play one of the PC trackmanias. I think you would really like them

[@PJ_TheAverageGamer]

But WWE Network does give you PPVs...

[@ABONKERSCHICKEN]

Do the cars feel different to drive from one another?

[@Alenthas]

man this game needs rubberbanding. you never see two cars on the screen at the same time, so boring

[@OldCircuitGaming]

Light does have mass!

[@KalanArkais]

It definitely doesn't. It can experience gravity, but photons have no mass. The reason the "speed of light" is a special value at all is because it's the speed that only particles without mass can reach.

[@mandridhugh9555]

it's been years, Ross, man, what happened to your hair?

[@Lewiiiiiiiis]

Can I be the one to say I don't like the serious-grown-up-voice pseudointellectual chats?

[@DuckDecoy13]

I wonder if any one made them a track

[@MH-hu5pi]

Alex stach!!

[@PolygonAlley]

Rating the tash, Smith 👌

[@Tyius420]

id have to work for 5 1/2 hours just for this game.

[@ouijabored45]

wow you must live anywhere but america

[@Tyius420]

@@ouijabored45 i live in the uk

[@intrepidmatter8165]

@@ouijabored45 The place where you live to work

[@ouijabored45]

@@Tyius420 here in the united usa we make $2.50 for an imperial day of work

[@dasgti2]

Rupert Murdock is killing us one Fox news segment at a time!