How Musicians Get Their First Fans In 2023 // INTERACTING WITH YOUR COMMUNITY

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Musformation // Jesse Cannon

Musformation // Jesse Cannon

Күн бұрын

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@jaykpjohnson
@jaykpjohnson 2 жыл бұрын
I've met and bonded with so many talented musicians at open mics and jam sessions in addition to formal shows I've played. It's a great way to build community, share songs and have fun
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@BoHenrikMusic
@BoHenrikMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Big time dude! I met 2 of my current house mates from going to open mics when I first moved to the city. They in turn helped me shoot my first professional music video for FREE within a month of moving. Hard to overstate how awesome the return can be on buying beers for random people you like at an open mic.
@conjarson
@conjarson Жыл бұрын
Big facts
@rivetapp
@rivetapp Жыл бұрын
Hey I loved this comment, understanding that community really is everything is something I've been thinking of a lot lately. I’m doing some research on how musicians might be able to understand and execute on this even easier. I’d love to buy you some lunch over a phone call to talk more about this!
@steveoooooo09
@steveoooooo09 2 жыл бұрын
Being 100% honest, just about the only thing I've done correctly has been community. I've plugged into about three different communities that account for the entirety of my fanbase. Every release I have hundreds of people aware of the release and excited to hear it. I need to improve on just about every other aspect, but for someone who sucks at creating social media content, plugging into communities is sooo important. Great stuff Jesse!
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Really good comment
@rivetapp
@rivetapp Жыл бұрын
Hey I loved this comment, understanding that community really is everything is something I've been thinking of a lot lately. I’m doing some research on how musicians might be able to understand and execute on this even easier. I’d love to buy you some lunch over a phone call to talk more about this!
@tharapwarlock
@tharapwarlock 5 ай бұрын
Man, I cannot tell you how much I've struggled with music marketing. I went from the whole bots phase, to marketing "courses", to paying for playlisting, to paying facebook and instagram ads, all to figure out over $1,000 - $10,000s spent it doesn't work. Man. I wish I found your channel so much earlier.
@TobiasVokes
@TobiasVokes 2 жыл бұрын
Can feel the genuineness in this video. Especially when you said if you try reaching out that doesn’t make you a failure it makes you someone doing the right thing. ‘Your failure is part of your bricks that build your path to success’
@jaklair
@jaklair 2 жыл бұрын
i can feel the genuineness
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that
@reign-progressiverockband9735
@reign-progressiverockband9735 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah to your commentary about interacting in the "real world"!!! Yhew, my whole life in the business world was direct interaction, and I was good at it! So after hours of getting educated on the online nerd method of networking, having you spotlight direct interaction is a breath of fresh air. I mean, how the heck do you really build a "lifelong relationship" if you've never actually met that person?! Also, your comments about being genuine, helpful, and really caring about other people applies equally in virtual and real worlds. 100% the key to all things in marketing and life brother! Thanks for the words of wisdom.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that
@impulse9tucson
@impulse9tucson 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you're bringing up etiquette. It's so annoying when I'm in a post-rock/ambient Discord and someone drops a horrifically-mixed rap about 'tha bitchez' and expects everyone to, I dunno, just send them money I guess? But even beyond the obviously-terrible examples, it's good to admit to oneself that, yes, there is a self-serving element to these friendships/interactions, but that as long as you give as good as you get, everybody wins.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Tha bitxhez is my jam. No but really good point
@vlntyntheband
@vlntyntheband 2 жыл бұрын
Totally. A friend of mine hates branding and marketing etc, but I think I’m getting through to him that all of it is just a tool. If you’re using it for good and providing people value and they then want to support you because of it, everyone wins. As long as you’re not setting out to use people and not give back, I think it’s a net positive.
@IlianDesov
@IlianDesov 2 жыл бұрын
I am in awe...this is THE dude(dare I say the only adequate) when it comes to stuff like marketing and communal work. Keep it up man!
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that very much
@UnorthadoxPhantom
@UnorthadoxPhantom 2 жыл бұрын
People always forget the value of human Interaction,. but some people say its the best wat to turn followers into fans,. They gotta get to know you anyways, start sooner than later. Again great advise man,. but on top of that your inspiring. Without the help and advice of certain people, some of us feel lost, not knowing where the next step is. Epically in Hip Hop, people don't really wanna share their secret sauce on how they get fans. So were grateful that these videos are out there. like I said not just for information, but inspiration as well. Thanks man
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that
@stephenowens1965
@stephenowens1965 2 жыл бұрын
For those of you watching this for the 1st time or even maybe you've seen these 1st 2 videos, the information is so valuable. I love the Disciplinarian in Jesse. In your face!! And quite frankly if you don't go step-by-step and just follow his simple instructions and do the work, You're going to continue to fail to make the same mistakes you've always made. Just like I have!! I find myself filling out my spread sheet, As I am only in my early stages of building community, And going back to these 1st 2 videos and watching them again and again. I know Jesse talks fast, So simply stop every 5 or 10 seconds and rewind it. I have taken written down notes as I go. Create files and to do lists for yourself. I'm excited to be aboard, And once again I thank this community and especially Jesse. This is my kind of school!!
@soulfulandnice
@soulfulandnice 11 ай бұрын
The thing I like most about your videos is that you are speaking reality! Even after the social media boom, music marketing principles are still the same as they were 40 years ago: the people!! Like the old saying goes, "It's not only about what you know but who you know and the relationships you've built." Instant subscriber Jesse! Thank you! 😉
@Musformation
@Musformation 11 ай бұрын
Love this commrnt
@LEEDAVEY1984
@LEEDAVEY1984 2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your words of wisdom Jesse. In Norfolk, England, we speak super slow and I have a job keeping up with you but your content is always no bullshit chaff and all wheat. Keep the videos coming. You're like a Yoda for the indies!!
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Lol appreciate that and KZbin has a speed button you can slow me down if you need to!
@jsa3rdbb
@jsa3rdbb 2 жыл бұрын
All mighty algorithm, note my comment and bless this man with more views.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Lol love that
@superparker452
@superparker452 Жыл бұрын
these videos are great ive just watched like 4 in a row
@Musformation
@Musformation Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@megatonleviathanofficial
@megatonleviathanofficial 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting here like y2Jericho all pumped up on coffee " YOU JUST MADE MY LIST!!!!!" with every suggestion. thanks again Jesse.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@joshmcali.sk8
@joshmcali.sk8 2 жыл бұрын
Yo, this is the best music marketing channel on KZbin. PERIOD. I’ve been binge listening while at work 😂
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that
@leylah1028
@leylah1028 Жыл бұрын
"Some places are just not appropriate for our whole selves" SAVAGE 😂😂
@kennymonsters
@kennymonsters Жыл бұрын
Yeahhhhhhhhh I should've shut up and kept watching your videos before I left that comment. This is the video I was looking for! Thanks for t the knowledge
@strikingearth2947
@strikingearth2947 2 жыл бұрын
Community building is exactly the advice I’ve been looking for. I’ll have to disagree with your views of Facebook ads. They’ve been the most effective thing I’ve done so far. It’s a PITA to figure out, but it *does* work. It got me about 80% of my followers, and a few of them ended up being true fans. That said, the community building approach is clearly superior.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you’re in on community I hope you watch my videos on Facebook ads and learn to lean away from them
@Teddyisoffline
@Teddyisoffline 2 жыл бұрын
I love how u give practical advice and not trying to scam people like a lot of music marketing channels
@DeanLondonSwift
@DeanLondonSwift 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for telling it how it is. always. we need ppl like you.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that
@aSourGummyWorm
@aSourGummyWorm Жыл бұрын
Really glad I came across this channel. It’s made me realize I don’t do hardly any of these things consistently and I have a lot of work to do! Time to get to it 🏃🏽‍♂️
@itswermzer
@itswermzer 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Jesse. Being social on social media really does go a long way. And being a generally good person.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
That’s right!
@encouraginglyauthentic43
@encouraginglyauthentic43 2 жыл бұрын
The irony
@LaynoProd
@LaynoProd 10 ай бұрын
had to rewatch this, thanks Jesse for the gems 💎📝🙏🏽
@themusicofcbdkris
@themusicofcbdkris 7 ай бұрын
Golden Information . 😃
@djangoflyfar2633
@djangoflyfar2633 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is SO informative. Many thanks!!
@diegodedeza5038
@diegodedeza5038 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I love this channel ... I'm getting started with my musical project (I'm a Filmmaker but now I got to study music) and once I release it I'll definitely reach out to you and see how can we work together, I'd love to.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that and look forward to it
@liandyogi
@liandyogi 2 жыл бұрын
The Facebook bit hahaha so funny! But also, props on the Discord recommendations. I think I'll try doing communities in things that interest me as well.
@fromlevi
@fromlevi Жыл бұрын
This video was extremely helpful! And, we like discovering new bands : )
@Musformation
@Musformation Жыл бұрын
🕺🏼
@juancarlosocasiomartinez5388
@juancarlosocasiomartinez5388 Жыл бұрын
You got the talk
@K-RICH
@K-RICH 2 жыл бұрын
i watch your videos everyday even if i’ve already seen them. need it to sink in again
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that
@rockboy360
@rockboy360 2 жыл бұрын
Great! I'm still waiting for a video about how to reach an American/Global audience being a foreign artist.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
I’m chewing on it
@rockboy360
@rockboy360 2 жыл бұрын
@@Musformation awesome! can't wait!
@novanewchorus
@novanewchorus 2 жыл бұрын
I'm on winter break and am devouring this stuff! There was some netflix doc about Alice in Chains' manager. Apparently he was all about spectacle. What do you think about that for smaller artists? You have to split your effort somewhere. It feels like that method v your method is gamble for something big vs regular work that pays off. It also seems like compared to the 70s, you have to do way crazier stuff now to get noticed, to the point where it's kind of destructive.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Spectacle is a huge thing I talk about in my videos on the 1975 and Billie eillish. But spectacle doesn’t always have to be destructive. Look at say Poppy or 100 Gecs that’s a lot of spectacle with no destruction just new ideas.
@novanewchorus
@novanewchorus 2 жыл бұрын
@@Musformation Word. Have you read contagious by Jonah Berger? It's about what creates viral content. I have yet to apply it, even though I've read it twice.
@chrysoprase3313
@chrysoprase3313 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jesse! I just discovered your channel and your content is awesome. I watched this video twice. I know in other videos you talk about a release schedule and how one does that. But what about just posting your very first song? Here you discuss reaching out to people with a similar size fan base. Should i just be posting anything at this point (maybe on youtube) and sharing it?
@GABRIELDIEPANDAWAMPE
@GABRIELDIEPANDAWAMPE Жыл бұрын
Sir i enjoy every single Video and learn and learn and learn.... already bought your book and read about 20% of it... question sir can you make a Video how to grow with KZbin shorts... that would for me very importand.... thank very much for your content
@encouraginglyauthentic43
@encouraginglyauthentic43 2 жыл бұрын
Great information as always.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that
@mr.lonely275
@mr.lonely275 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video where you screen record yourself finding some of these communities? Like a video where you actually go and find a few examples of these online communities and interact with them etc. etc.. Also maybe follow this same format for some of the other topics you cover like social media posts. Maybe do a step-by-step video of you making a fictitious TikTok post or Reels Post etc etc.. Sometimes watching someone do it works better than listening to them talk about doing it. Especially for those who are visual learners. 🙏
@worksofein6449
@worksofein6449 2 жыл бұрын
"Read the room" I'm ND and this is even harder for me online than it is in real life. 😅 Any tips for people like me who find personal communication difficult? Sadly I've not been able to find a "marketing for NDs" channel.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
What’s ND
@worksofein6449
@worksofein6449 2 жыл бұрын
@@Musformation ND = neuro divergent, stuff like autism, adhd, dyslexia. A common trait is not being able to pick up and interpret physical and verbal social ques.
@anthonycronk2001
@anthonycronk2001 2 жыл бұрын
Jesse our music taste is so similar you have no idea, still clean was one of my top songs in 2021 and 2020 lmao
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
I never stop listening to that record
@oommdtube
@oommdtube Жыл бұрын
Oh man, such good info, wish i where friendlier
@Musformation
@Musformation Жыл бұрын
🤦‍♂️
@jo_boo
@jo_boo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the content and the candidness it's much appreciated just wanna say I have started my music journey in May of 2021 after my father passed away from covid been playing guitar for 9 months and started recording in October 2021and now have close to 40 tracks that are being distributed on all major streaming platforms.. started mixing in December 2021 mastering January 2022 I started building guitars in July 2021 that I play on all my tracks.. 20hr days are for real everyday so I'm watching all your videos and working a game plan for the future Jo-Boo thanks you for your hard work and effort that goes into your informative content keep up the great work!!!!
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated, thank you.
@LHelvi
@LHelvi Жыл бұрын
I‘m a total fan of jesse cannon now
@Musformation
@Musformation Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@Duprae.
@Duprae. 2 жыл бұрын
Jesse, I’ve been binging these videos and they’ve been super helpful for me as I set out to build a fanbase. Keep going!
@Cashnova_will_be_a_goat
@Cashnova_will_be_a_goat 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro. I have to learn social media so bad. I feel like a artist, That went into the MATRIX, As soon as i stepped into the internet world lol your videos are helping me, Thanks again Boss!
@Cashnova_will_be_a_goat
@Cashnova_will_be_a_goat 2 жыл бұрын
Like*
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah keep going deeper
@GarHoover
@GarHoover 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for providing such fantastic advice on how to grow a fan base and how to connect with like minded people! I currently have over 7k subscribers to my channel where I make music on low budget synths and provide tutorials on how I make my songs. I have a decent grasp of my community but I want to try to expand beyond my niche and release my music on DSPs! Should I continue to double down on my current community and fan base or reach out to adjacent groups? Thanks!
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Both!!!!
@rivetapp
@rivetapp Жыл бұрын
Hey I loved this comment, understanding that community really is everything is something I've been thinking of a lot lately. I’m doing some research on how musicians might be able to understand and execute on this even easier. I’d love to buy you some lunch over a phone call to talk more about this!
@keerthan077
@keerthan077 2 жыл бұрын
Intro was so cool btww!
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that trying some new things
@playerformerlyknownasmousecop
@playerformerlyknownasmousecop 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jesse, thanks so much for all the valuable and free info. I know you are not a fan of facebook or facebook ads, but what about for parody artists? Say I'm writing country songs about spiderman and other superheroes and i want to run an ad campaign targeting fans of marvel/spiderman and a country artist that sounds like me. Wouldn't that be a good strategy?
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve said before when humor is involved Ads can be way more effective
@NexusLives
@NexusLives 2 жыл бұрын
I think the hard part i have with the local community part, is finding one that we can all grow from. Currently I know a good chunk of Rock/metal musicians in the area, but we all seem to have no momentum (Then Covid killed what little was left). Me being introverted doesn't help either.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
This is a problem for a lot of people
@MateusMachina
@MateusMachina Жыл бұрын
I’m trying to put together a dj mix using both my own and other small edm artist’s music. I’m hoping this will help build some connections. Although at the end of the day, I think building a presence just takes awhile. Thanks for the advice btw! Your channel is very informative.
@derrickthomin7381
@derrickthomin7381 2 жыл бұрын
Hiya! New subscriber here and I'm loving your vids. Super informative, and maybe one of the two (or maybe one of the one) channels on the music biz that doesn't make me want to kill myself immediately. I have a very unrelated question though: what font are you using in your title frames? For example "How to interact with your community" on this vid at 0:25. Was looking for something similar for an album cover recently and I dig this.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and trust me I fully understand since I set out to create a music channel that doesn’t make me what to kill myself. The font is a collection called ZING Rust
@derrickthomin7381
@derrickthomin7381 2 жыл бұрын
@@Musformation Thanks bud, I appreciate it!
@thepreseason
@thepreseason 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Jesse. What are the two KZbin hyperpop channels you briefly mentioned? Got some music like that in the pipeline
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Overcast, masked gorilla and there’s one other in forgetting right now
@thepreseason
@thepreseason 2 жыл бұрын
@@Musformation big thanks
@gregorylioi5977
@gregorylioi5977 2 жыл бұрын
So it's all about the favor bank, I do you a favor you do me a favor etc. I do like to think my MUSIC might play a part as well?
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I don’t need to say the obvious in every video - good music does a lot of the marketing work
@heftexperience
@heftexperience 2 жыл бұрын
What I would suggest is, you promote your music into the related fashion, game or film industry. For me, I've been promoting my music in spiritual groups and places because story behind my music focuses on the spirituality. That way, you will be more recognizable. This is one of the best tips, I learnt from my friend.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah niches and their related culture is a great lead
@rivetapp
@rivetapp Жыл бұрын
Hey I loved this comment, understanding that community really is everything is something I've been thinking of a lot lately. I’m doing some research on how musicians might be able to understand and execute on this even easier. I’d love to buy you some lunch over a phone call to talk more about this!
@DannyTaddei
@DannyTaddei Жыл бұрын
Speading the hurt on us old fudes lol! So I'm 60 and have a my life's catalogbto release. My target matket is mostly 45 and older. Im guessing FN is a good place for me even though it would suck for the youngins. I have a budget to spend and nearly none of the desire it would take to do the work you're laying out in the videos. Are you for hire? I am extremely adamant about staying indie. In my early years, yes before internet, I made several good runs in biz by letting the guys like do that eork snd i was the creative one. Let me know if you want to become the guy doing what you preach. If we can stike a worthy deal suitable to both our needs, rock on! Thanks for yhe videos. You're obviously the most knowledgeable guy on KZbin for this subject.
@Musformation
@Musformation Жыл бұрын
Need a hand? Go to Jesse’s website and hit us up on email.
@regret_this_already
@regret_this_already 2 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm old. I had no idea there was such a thing as hyper pop. I make music that has a 90s hard rock vibe, which is seeeing a bit of comeback recently, so I am looking to release a library of recordings my budy and I did over the years, but never promoted or released. We are competent song writers and I am actually a good recording engineer, so I don't know why we left all those awesome songs (over 200) just sitting there. Part of it was just me focusing on other bands I was in over the years. This video was helpful. I'm no longer young enough to have dreams of super stardom, because ageism is a thing in this buisness. But now I know I don't need it. I just want to share the creativity with cool people. Also, we decided to create a fictional band, kind of like the gurillas but wierder. That's how I'm looking to release the music here soon. That seemed like a fun and easygoing way to release it not worry about looking like that sad old guy wanting to be a rockstar. lol This was a lot of great information. Thank you for sharing and being genuine about it.
@bradmotoko
@bradmotoko 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! How much time daily or weekly would you recommend doing this?
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly at first I’d devote hours to initially gathering the data but eventually it only takes
@Jack-tk1is
@Jack-tk1is 2 жыл бұрын
Hi jesse, I'm gaining audience on IG & freelancing to make more Money to build leverage.......... Should I build as much Leverage as I can, or just give away %'s to the label *"initially"*, so they put their resources & push me seriously........ I mean, I've seen people with big money getting a record deal 🤔🤔( maybebvb big 3 labels control spotify & apple music ?) Thanks man...🙌🏻🙌🏻😃❤🥂
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
I’m having trouble following what you mean here?
@darkskinwhite
@darkskinwhite Жыл бұрын
yo man you talk about these editorial playlists, but for someone with less than 10k fans as you say, why even bother organizing your strategy around something that A: you can't control, & B: has like a 0.5% chance of happening? idk just seems inefficient. love your channel btw, you're the shit my guy, super appreciate you🤘
@Musformation
@Musformation Жыл бұрын
Why put an hour of effort into something that can have life changing results? I think we waste our time for more in effectively regularly. As well the chances are way better than 0.5% of getting on a playlist and starting to build. Spotify claims 20% of songs submitted (since most don’t submit) get placed. Seems smart to me. But I talk plenty about what you can do that’s in your control but much of music is about the reception it has at large and none of us can control that.
@wearemanywearelegion4613
@wearemanywearelegion4613 2 жыл бұрын
Aw Jesse you are killing me, "stay of facebook unless your target audience is over 30..." I'm 42 does that mean I'm washed up!?!??!??! Also your spreadsheet hasn't arrived in my inbox yet and I think I accidently signed up for your mailing list 7 times hitting refresh. Please have one of your assistants fix this for me and send me a self flogging kit for me to suffer for my stupidity
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
www.dropbox.com/s/c4sbdx9p4w7hws0/Your%20Community.xlsx?dl=0
@leadsfurnace1349
@leadsfurnace1349 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jesse another great video. Sorry you mentioned this before but then you said something else that I may have confused - is me trying to get pre-saves on my song helpful stuff all still or not required? Not sure if you changed your stance
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
I have changed my stance next week I go into this on a video. Use pre saves as much as you can
@leadsfurnace1349
@leadsfurnace1349 2 жыл бұрын
@@Musformation Jesse, ’ve just realised how horrible it is to pre save a song… Even if your Spotify is logged in on the app you have to log in and it just seems like not a really easy step for the user. I couldn’t even be bothered to do it myself as no one likes having to type in their email and password and click a few links understandably. I’m worried about pushing my fans to do shit they don’t want. My question: will I significantly harm my chances of getting on an editorial playlist if I don’t get any pre saves? I have a few thousands genuine spotify followers if that counts for anything and a 3:1 stream to listener rate.
@zannedaglio
@zannedaglio 2 жыл бұрын
Jesse thank you again, you really do practice what you preach and your insights about our humanity are I think as valuable as the nuts and bolts tactics you provide. I'm an old woman. I like my tea and downtime, to be away from screens; I'm entertaining social media after being away from it for 8 years to get my music to more listeners. Is that a lite version of your methods and madness of consistent sustained efforts? A scaled-down one? Also being a woman and old at that ;), I find your videos targeted to a bro-culture. Guys, dudes, you know....What at targeting women too? If you'd like some reasons why, ping me. Great stuff!
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Well I’d like to think I’m targeting young people of all genders but I do find that the unfortunate problem with authenticity is it brings it all back to what you know and this CIS gendered 24 year old at heart feels that way. But to your question - yes honestly just posting as much as you can handle does more than doing nothing. So do what you can handle.
@GavinMagnusOfficial
@GavinMagnusOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
great info...though.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
🕺🏼
@hoss9990
@hoss9990 2 жыл бұрын
I'm older with responsibilities now and I haven't played a show in a few years. However I still write and record at home with my friend. I want to get listens and fans it was interesting to hear an anti-facebook ads perspective. What are some other ways to get fans/listens outside of Facebook marketing or digital/irl community-building?
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
I mean you just chopped off all my limbs and said run lol. There’s influencer marketing and paid PR but that’s it if your unknown.
@mattsharaykomusic
@mattsharaykomusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@Musformation interesting, so would you say in my case that ads might be a potentially useful mechanism IF done in a way that is authentic (as an ad can be)?
@somewhereinthemiddle2030
@somewhereinthemiddle2030 3 ай бұрын
I wonder.. As I´m looking at artists similar to me and my size, what if let´s say they are all artists that were using ads, and they gave up because their growth stagnated, and I keep tagging and playlisting these artists, do I teach the algorithm to target their audiences? Which, were not good quality audiences? And then, does that negatively affect me?
@conjarson
@conjarson Жыл бұрын
You think it’s necessary to do every single marketing and outreach strategy you mention in your vids? Or do you think going hard on a few that work well is enough?
@RachelESmith-dj3dq
@RachelESmith-dj3dq 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jesse, do you have any ideas for reconnecting to an audience after 1-2 years of lower activity? Let's say the audience was about 150-200K Spotify listeners a month at its peak. I'm wondering if there's any creative ways to retarget this audience if their info wasn't captured via mailing list or something like that.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Well a lot of them will get you in their playlists. But while I hate adds this is where they work best is Retard sting people who used to be interested
@francesca8895
@francesca8895 2 жыл бұрын
Jesse, is collaborating with other artists a MUST to blow up? I feel like time is constantly slipping between my fingers between trying to put together a marketing plan and finishing songs and connecting with my community-- it's a challenge to factor in collabs as well. Are they a must? If so, how often should we collab? Once a month or so?
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
What type of music do you play?
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it’s possible to without but that’s a genre it helps a lot
@francesca8895
@francesca8895 2 жыл бұрын
@@Musformation I get you. thanks for the response
@eichlers__
@eichlers__ 2 жыл бұрын
perf, thanks jesse
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
🕺🏼
@josepapiii
@josepapiii 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance you can drop those insta accounts that recommend Hyperpop? I was listening to the Spotify playlist yestarday and it was pretty hot or miss IMO
@owlsaboveproductions8488
@owlsaboveproductions8488 2 жыл бұрын
I'm THEE WORST AT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT 🙃. Great information, your series is super useful and I share all your videos with my friends when they ask stuff about marketing. You save people so many headaches, thank you for not gatekeeping knowledge!!! 🙏
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that’s
@GavinMagnusOfficial
@GavinMagnusOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Facebook suck
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@Kashimir
@Kashimir 2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
If you missed part 1 head here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3LHkJyvidKbnbs
@Mrs.Laetitia
@Mrs.Laetitia 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched this video 5 times already since this all sounded so new to me and I've been applying a lot of your tips and I'm finally understanding how important this is. I can't wait to see where it goes. I have a question btw, a lot of indie playlist curators ask for money to be placed. How legit are these playlisters and should indie artists play that game ? At least 70% of the people I contact ask me to pay 40 to 60 dollars to be on their playlist and I just don't know if I should do it. I don't think I've heard you talk about this but please direct me to a video if you've already mentioned this issue
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
If they ask for money to be a playlist it’s a scam. If they ask for money to be considered through a safe harbor like submit hub or playlist Push it’s legit.
@Mrs.Laetitia
@Mrs.Laetitia 2 жыл бұрын
@@Musformation thank youuuu !
@bmb505music2
@bmb505music2 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff... unfortunately Like most things in life I learned this stuff the hard way...oh well live and learn
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
That’s how it goes
@GavinMagnusOfficial
@GavinMagnusOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
its called collabing I should be on your podcast. I have millions of fans. Im big on all platforms. Those fans although fans of my KZbin became super music fans the bottom line supporters are supporters.
@gregorylioi5977
@gregorylioi5977 2 жыл бұрын
YOU should be MY fan; then I'll be your fan too.🎸🎸😎😎
@panama1942
@panama1942 2 жыл бұрын
You're way more of a content creator than an artist
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
🤔
@chiefblanko
@chiefblanko 2 жыл бұрын
@@Musformation is this that incel hypebeast guy?
@westerbeck8229
@westerbeck8229 2 жыл бұрын
@@chiefblanko 🤣🤣🤣
@alexxartificial
@alexxartificial 2 жыл бұрын
What are those hyperpop channels?
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Overcast masked gorilla and there’s another im forgetting
@ajdrybread
@ajdrybread 2 жыл бұрын
Jesse you should check out Umbrellahat if you like hyperpop
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Bookmarked
@inimei_g
@inimei_g 2 жыл бұрын
What about playing many different Genres or having Releases with different Type of Genres? Or the Music doesn't fit in any Niche 😆
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
All the more communities you can do this in
@inimei_g
@inimei_g 2 жыл бұрын
@@Musformation which means every Day at least 2 hours Social Media 🤯
@michaelbrindley3487
@michaelbrindley3487 2 жыл бұрын
ahaha funny you should say this was on kenny beats stream advertising my music music tbf didn’t go down too well for a laugh i out on my insta jokingly saying he shouted me out don’t think he understands british humour non the less great advice to reach a wider audience
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
That’s fun
@valdoggold
@valdoggold 2 жыл бұрын
First
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
🕺🏼
@anndynegative
@anndynegative 2 жыл бұрын
Sigh...alright Jesse, I guess I can leave my house for a little bit
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Lol rare for me these days
@gh0ul.nin9
@gh0ul.nin9 2 жыл бұрын
i would like to hear the song about the girl who left the cult
@JadaaMusic
@JadaaMusic Жыл бұрын
I heard you like i hyperpop. I made a hyperpop x hip hoo song i think you might like. Its pretty cool
@OrSn21
@OrSn21 2 жыл бұрын
You're videos r good but the audio bro, you gotta upgrade ur mic
@thirdeyeviews_
@thirdeyeviews_ 2 жыл бұрын
Getting up to date with your videos as of now, thanks for all the useful info . Since you like hyperpop, you should check out the music video , “HATE ME NOW “ by Ay Nunez on my channel 🤘🏽. Hope this year is full of health and success for you and everyone reading this !
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
😎 Thank you!
@LottoHaze
@LottoHaze Жыл бұрын
Man…his voice 🥴 makes me feel like I’m drowning 😬 sorry i hate to be “that guy”
@Musformation
@Musformation Жыл бұрын
🤷‍♂️
@Zepi827
@Zepi827 2 жыл бұрын
I’m down to join a discord if anybody has one currently ,l
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Musformation discord in the description but hit that search function I showed on the screen
@GriffinBlaze1202
@GriffinBlaze1202 2 жыл бұрын
take the time to pronounce COMMUNITY
@lovecouch7451
@lovecouch7451 2 жыл бұрын
What’s wrong with antivaxers?
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Not getting into this. Take a joke
@krikarica
@krikarica 2 жыл бұрын
@@Musformation they are being discriminated against in very nasty ways. That aint funny.
@krikarica
@krikarica 2 жыл бұрын
That’s actually scary what’s happening...
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah not having this be a political forum go to Facebook if you wanna do that
@colinpun8016
@colinpun8016 2 жыл бұрын
Man I really love your videos and I've been binge watching them everyday recently. I think your really underrated in your niche but damn the random political references are so annoying and off-putting. I just wanna learn more about music marketing not feel like I'm on twitter. I get that you feel strongly about these topics and you're putting a lot of your personality in these videos which is great but is it really necassary to force those in? This is like the 6th time I've heard something in 10 videos. It's your channel of course I'm just saying. Appreciate tf out this channel a lot either way! Thanks!
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say I don’t think I actually drop my political views in this. I guarantee if you guessed which political party I vote in you’d be wrong. But yeah my day job is in politics and it’s the only thing I’m interested in. But I also can hear that people come here to not hear about that stuff and I should probably be more conscious of that since I try to avoid politics on the weekend.
@zannedaglio
@zannedaglio 2 жыл бұрын
​ I've been watching a lot of Jesse's videos the last day or so. To be honest I don't hear any anything political that's off-topic. That he talks in political terms is part and parcel of having a deep understanding of business relationships which are all about the politics of human relationships in organizations and communities, i.e., understanding a context, the power structures, the subtexts, etc.
@B.I.B.L.E.
@B.I.B.L.E. Жыл бұрын
This is also a tutorial on how not to be an introvert.
@Musformation
@Musformation Жыл бұрын
My exostance
@B.I.B.L.E.
@B.I.B.L.E. Жыл бұрын
@@Musformation Haha! Same here...
@jazsebastian
@jazsebastian Жыл бұрын
anti vaxxxer, hahaha ohh dear here we go again with the copy paste npc catch phrase, ahh well you're so smart with this stuff, had be lacking in other areas. Can't have it all mate. 😂
@Musformation
@Musformation Жыл бұрын
Have fun with your brain worms
@qwertysumerien4330
@qwertysumerien4330 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, this guy. Brings up antivxxers as a "joke" and then removes all the comments asking why he did that. Ironic how someone who spouts being genuine can't handle free speech on his own channel from people who watch his videos. Wow.
@Musformation
@Musformation 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh there’s plenty of those comments below but it’s just like an anti Vaxxxer to get offended about a joke then play victim about something that doesn’t exist. I haven’t removed a single one of those comments cause just like this one I can show how stupid they are. 😎 Wow
@MayhemJack
@MayhemJack 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Jesse, thanks for your videos, they have been a great help and source of motivation. I want to ask you, is having a Twitter account absolutely necessary? What benefits and strategies can you share? I am not really keen on social media, but I've started using Instagram and Facebook to share my music, and am already seeing positive results. I'm kind of reluctant to create a new Twitter account as I already had one that I created in 2008 and maintained until about 2018; I regularly used this as a sort of writing doodle page, sharing my work as a writer, and had a considerable following. But in 2019, I deactivated it and didn't know it would be permanently deleted if I didn't log back in within a month, so that's gone. I'm fine with it really, but that account kind of matched the vibe and persona that I want to keep around my music and channel, so I'm just thinking that it would be a hassle to start from scratch again, especially since I don't get a lot of time off from my regular life and work, and any time I get, I use to record music. Can you share in a video, or maybe if you already have one on the topic of how to use Twitter to establish a fan base, redirect me to it? Incidentally, should I make a Facebook page, too, or are those passé? I'm ignorant of these things now as, like I said, I haven't been in social media in a long time. But sharing my videos on my old Facebook account has already helped too and I'm willing to explore more of the potential of social media marketing, I just need to be precise about it as I simply don't have the time to devote to resarch and trial-and-error. Thanks in advance and have a great day. M.J.
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