How My Protestant Upbringing Led Me To Orthodoxy

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UNTO AGES

UNTO AGES

2 ай бұрын

Why did I become an Orthodox Christian? Throughout this series, I will be going into the various theological and historical discoveries I made over the years that eventually led to me joining the Orthodox Church. In this first episode, I discuss my Protestant upbringing, including what I appreciated as well as where I began to question things. I also talk about my first introduction to Orthodoxy and my first visit to a Divine Liturgy.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask them in the comments below. Thanks for listening and God bless!
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REFERENCES:
Find An Orthodox Church Near You
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Books
“Orthodoxy & Heterodoxy: Finding the Way to Christ in a Complicated Religious Landscape” by Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick
“Rock and Sand: An Orthodox Appraisal of the Protestant Reformers and Their Teachings” by Fr. Josiah Trenham
“Arise, O God: The Gospel of Christ’s Defeat of Demons, Sin, and Death” by Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick
“The Orthodox Veneration of the Mother of God” by St. John Maximovitch
“Orthodox Worship: A Living Continuity with the Synagogue, the Temple, and the Early Church” by Benjamin Williams & Harold Anstall
“Thinking Orthodox” by Dr. Eugenia Constantinou
“The Didache” by The Twelve Apostles
“The Letters of St. Ignatius” by St. Ignatius
“On The Incarnation” by St. Athanasius
Podcasts/KZbin Channels
“The Whole Counsel of God” by Fr. Stephen De Young
“The Royal Path” by Fr. Turbo
“Patristic Nectar” by Fr. Josiah Trenham
Fr. Spyridon Bailey
Patristix
Playlists
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Orthodox Inquirers (Longform): • Orthodox Inquirers (Lo...

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@swenner64
@swenner64 13 күн бұрын
Former Protestant Pastor now Orthodox! Thank God By God's I found the Church.
@Disciple550
@Disciple550 13 күн бұрын
Amazing. Currently a Protestant hoping to convert to the one true Orthodox Church later this year with my fiance. So many are being called home right now ☦️☦️
@pero33403
@pero33403 14 күн бұрын
Ex cradle Catholic here, now Orthodox since 2 years ago. Welcome home brother☦♥
@DylanGames1000
@DylanGames1000 13 күн бұрын
You left the truth.
@DylanGames1000
@DylanGames1000 13 күн бұрын
The catholic church is the one true church outside which there’s absolutely no salvation. Orthodoxy position has completely been refuted numerous times on all fronts by councils, scriptures and church fathers. Orthodoxy is nothing short of false religion, schism, and heresy and unless you repent and return to the church of Christ the Catholic Church you’ll perish in the lake of fire
@stefanbaciu3121
@stefanbaciu3121 13 күн бұрын
@@DylanGames1000better check your catechism, your pope changed it. People can be saved outside of the Catholic Church according to your teachings.😂
@pero33403
@pero33403 13 күн бұрын
@@DylanGames1000 Not even your own church agrees with you. Please check Vatican's SYNODALITY AND PRIMACY IN THE SECOND MILLENNIUM AND TODAY, Alexandria, 7 June 2023
@pero33403
@pero33403 13 күн бұрын
@@DylanGames1000 Unless you join the true Church of Jesus Christ, the Orthodox Catholic Church, you will never know the fullness of the Truth.
@evertaj2438
@evertaj2438 13 күн бұрын
Great audio essay man. Me and my (ex-Catholic) girlfriend have been blessed to be baptized in the Orthodox Church last saturday on the 27th of April on the feast day of St. Lazarus, officially leaving my Calvinist upbringing and roots. Sadly my still protestant family believes it to be merely religous lunacy/fanaticism, rather than a well thought out search for God and the love of God. Despite efforts to explain and clarify my choices and actions, their hearts remain hardened. They will not hear a word about faith, seeing it through the lens of national/cultural identity, rather than seeing faith through the lens of personal conviction, aka why does one believe in what he believes. I pray that they will one day understand. God bless.
@untoages
@untoages 13 күн бұрын
Thank you! And glory to God you both have found the Church - welcome home! I understand on the matter of family. My family is still Protestant as well, and in part, that’s why I made this series. It’s led to good conversation with them. We must repent and show them Orthodoxy can truly change people, and certainly pray for them. Good strength!
@Disciple550
@Disciple550 13 күн бұрын
Me and my girlfriend will soon be in the same position when we leave Protestantism for Orthodox Christianity later this year. May God be with us!
@nicolasfliedl1009
@nicolasfliedl1009 11 күн бұрын
Found my faith in struggling with Pornographic addiction. I based my faith in orthodoxy, and I'm going to finally go to church this holy days, and then gonna get baptised finally. I can't wait
@untoages
@untoages 10 күн бұрын
Glory to God! Keep struggling, the Lord will honor it 🙏🏻
@ethansmith9078
@ethansmith9078 9 күн бұрын
Kyrie Eleison☦and may God keep you save
@johnisho
@johnisho 19 күн бұрын
Very similar to my experience brother, I’m nearing baptism. I thank the Holy Spirit for bringing me to the Church. Trust God and get ready to be willing to get everything for the Church.
@untoages
@untoages 19 күн бұрын
Thank God! Orthodoxy is a very lively journey, and that only becomes even more true once you fully enter in. God bless you!
@David-yw2lv
@David-yw2lv 13 күн бұрын
I was Lutheran,but always felt something was missing in that church. I found the missing elements in Orthodoxy.
@wareaglejf
@wareaglejf 12 күн бұрын
Care to elaborate? What specific things have you found that were missing? Thanks!
@ishitrealbad3039
@ishitrealbad3039 11 күн бұрын
Evangelical background here, same thing happened to me.
@DefenderOfChrist_
@DefenderOfChrist_ 10 күн бұрын
Nothing missing in the Lutheran Church unless you mean following things not taught in the Bible
@wareaglejf
@wareaglejf 10 күн бұрын
@@DefenderOfChrist_ things not found in the Bible? You mean things like we are "saved by faith alone?"
@DefenderOfChrist_
@DefenderOfChrist_ 10 күн бұрын
@@wareaglejf atleast that actually is in the Bible compared to many later heretical doctrines by both the Catholic or the Orthodox Church. Here it is: Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. Happy, now? Will that let you convert to the truth: Protestantism?
@clayjimenez6246
@clayjimenez6246 Ай бұрын
This channel is great, man! I am currently a catechumen very soon to be baptized!
@untoages
@untoages Ай бұрын
Glory to God! May it be blessed!
@mynameis......23
@mynameis......23 18 күн бұрын
​@@untoagesWhy I'm not eastern orthodox 1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach Paul allows bishops to get marry, but eastern orthodox goes against paul. eastern orthodox will give a Verses from 1 Cor7 to say that paul gave the advice to stay unmarried. But they will not tell you that the same chapter they quote says 1 Corinthians 7:28 "even if you do marry, you have not SINNED". The passage literally says "young women, young men" and a bishop is supposed to be a Church ELDER. Christian should not cover their head 1 Corinthians 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. (The head of man is Lord Jesus Christ). So the priests and bishops should not cover their head. ALL Believers of JESUS CHRIST are Royal Priest 1 Peter 2:5,9. Revelation 1:6. Apostles are allowed to marry 1 Cor 9:1-5 Breaking 10 commandments by having carved images, idols, changing the Sabbath to sunday _ I'm more blessed than mary Luke 11:27-28 27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” 28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” In Luke 11:27 that random woman LITERALLY said Jesus your mother is Blessed, but are Lord Jesus LITERALLY said Believers are more Blessed than mary Amen! _ CHRIST alone John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. ACTS 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” There is only One Mediator between God and men, LORD Jesus Christ= 1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus. Hebrew 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. Hebrew 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel. Hebrew 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises. Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by One Spirit to the Father John 15:5 for without Me you can do nothing. Colossians 1:20 and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross. _ Music instruments are allowed for Christians Rev 14:2 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder. And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps. Rev 5:8 8 Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints Revelation 15:2 Jeremiah 31:4 (GOD speaking in this verse) 4 Again I will build you, and you shall be rebuilt, O virgin of Israel! You shall again be adorned with your tambourines, And shall go forth in the dances of those who rejoice. Even in Heaven with their perfect voices they had instruments then why not us _ We don't need ark representative in Church because Christian are the Temple of God Christ is always present in Church sermon because He said where there are two or three people gathered in My Name I'm in midst of them _ We should not pray to apostles Romans 1:25 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. Acts 10:25-26 25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.” Acts 14:15 15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them, Revelation 19:10 10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” Revelation 22:8-9 8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things. 9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God." Colossians 2:18 18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, You cannot go to Father through saints nor mary, you can only go to the Father through Lord Jesus Christ= John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father. Holy Spirit intercedes for us=Romans 8:26 26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And CHRIST as well=Romans 8:34 34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. Hebrews 7:25 25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. It's Christ and Holy Spirit who intercedes for us not apostles Even old Old Testament says Christ intercedes for us Isaiah 53:12 12 Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great, And He shall divide the spoil with the strong, Because He poured out His soul unto death, And He was numbered with the transgressors, And He bore the sin of many, And made intercession for the transgressors. _ Jesus said Matthew 23:9 9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. The context is not calling pharisees, sadducees and PRIESTS father and teacher. _ mary being the mother of God? Luke 8:21 But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.” Matthew 12:46-50 46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.” 48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”. Mark 3:35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.” John 19:26-27 26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home. ( Jesus basically said John is the son of mary, and mary is the mother of John from that time onwards). By the way sarah is the mother of all proof=Galatians 4:21-26. Work of God = John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.” _ Humans even with The Holy Spirit & apostolic succession still go wrong. And eastern orthodox is not immune to that 1)Peter was not perfect human nor was he a perfect disciple 2)He sank down while walking on water 3)Our Lord said to peter get behind me satan 4)Peter reject our Lord 3 times 5)Our Lord rebuked Peter for calling fire from heaven 6 Our Lord rebuked Peter when he cut of the soilders ear 7 Paul rebuked Peter for being hypocrite because he was acting different in front of Jews and different in front of gentiles. 8 Moses messed up, and he was a important part of Bible ( that's why he never entered the promised land), 9 David messed up ( and he has the Holy Spirit), 10 King Soloman messed up, 11 Saul messed up and God regretted the decision (1 Samuel 15:10-11). Hatrick (Saul then David then Soloman back to back messed up) 12 The apostles run away a day before Lord Jesus got locked up. 13 The early church messed up Rev 2:18-20, 1 Cor, Galatians. 14 Apostle John when receiving Revelation worshiped an angel and the angel said "see you do not do that. Worship GOD" Rev 22:8-9 15 Paul and Barnabas both had a sharp disagreement on John Mark( Acts 15:36-41). And remember that both were Apostles filled with Holy Spirit. 16 Church in Rev 2:1-6 Lord Jesus Himself said to the church of Ephesus that "I know your works, your labor, your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars" but guess what that church still had problems and Lord also pointed that out "Nevertheless I have this against you, that you have left your first love......" So as you can see Churches can do Biblical & unbiblical things at the same time. If these people could mess up, why do you think the eo church wouldn't mess up.
@secretreader2345
@secretreader2345 13 күн бұрын
As an ex baaptist protestant, i really thank you for this video, i'm on the stage where i can't decide where to go between catholic and orthodox church, i'm studuying both theology and your video help me a little bit. Thank you, really.
@untoages
@untoages 13 күн бұрын
I think you’ll definitely find especially the next few videos in this series useful. I attempt to compare and contrast Orthodox and Protestant theology in them. The later ones address why I didn’t go the Catholic route. Check the playlist for all of the videos - God bless you on your journey!
@secretreader2345
@secretreader2345 13 күн бұрын
@@untoages il will defenetly check thank you, God bless you too ♥️
@t.l.ciottoli4319
@t.l.ciottoli4319 13 күн бұрын
read Guettee's "The Papacy" free online
@patrick9876
@patrick9876 5 күн бұрын
Grew up Methodist and saw many holes in its doctrine and history in college, and eventually found the Orthodox Church which I hold to be the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church☦️ Glory to God for His Holy Church!☦️
@ishitrealbad3039
@ishitrealbad3039 11 күн бұрын
seems like all protestants their path to Orthodoxy is the same. Since I was 4 I was raised as a pentacostal evangelical. And for some reason i never felt at home there, I always felt like something was missing. And the older I got, the more I got to understand the arguments, beliefs and the view of evangelicals. And thus also began to disagree with it more and more. Biggest revelation I had, was that nobody knew Christian history before the reformation, which to me was a massive red flag. "we are the most new branch of Christianity, there for we are correct" and "Anyone who pays respect to Mary is an idol worshipper, she is not the mother of God", were also the things that really made me question that Church. Thanks to the person who posted Mechaloschemos chants on youtube, otherwise I might not have encountered Orthodoxy at all, those years ago.
@hxplxss1835
@hxplxss1835 20 күн бұрын
God be with you brother. Welcome home!
@areyoutheregoditsmedave
@areyoutheregoditsmedave 9 күн бұрын
converted to orthodoxy from secularism/neoplatonism. blessed Holy Week, brother
@anthonyjohn981
@anthonyjohn981 2 ай бұрын
Wow our stories are similar. Thanks for posting!
@crumleyarchives4198
@crumleyarchives4198 Ай бұрын
Is this the Anthony I remember from class many years ago?
@anthonyjohn981
@anthonyjohn981 Ай бұрын
@@crumleyarchives4198 which class?
@WaywardServant
@WaywardServant 20 күн бұрын
Wow almost a reunion
@mynameis......23
@mynameis......23 18 күн бұрын
​@@crumleyarchives4198Why I'm not eastern orthodox 1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach Paul allows bishops to get marry, but eastern orthodox goes against paul. eastern orthodox will give a Verses from 1 Cor7 to say that paul gave the advice to stay unmarried. But they will not tell you that the same chapter they quote says 1 Corinthians 7:28 "even if you do marry, you have not SINNED". The passage literally says "young women, young men" and a bishop is supposed to be a Church ELDER. Christian should not cover their head 1 Corinthians 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. (The head of man is Lord Jesus Christ). So the priests and bishops should not cover their head. ALL Believers of JESUS CHRIST are Royal Priest 1 Peter 2:5,9. Revelation 1:6. Apostles are allowed to marry 1 Cor 9:1-5 Breaking 10 commandments by having carved images, idols, changing the Sabbath to sunday _ I'm more blessed than mary Luke 11:27-28 27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” 28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” In Luke 11:27 that random woman LITERALLY said Jesus your mother is Blessed, but are Lord Jesus LITERALLY said Believers are more Blessed than mary Amen! _ CHRIST alone John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. ACTS 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” There is only One Mediator between God and men, LORD Jesus Christ= 1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus. Hebrew 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. Hebrew 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel. Hebrew 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises. Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by One Spirit to the Father John 15:5 for without Me you can do nothing. Colossians 1:20 and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross. _ Music instruments are allowed for Christians Rev 14:2 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder. And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps. Rev 5:8 8 Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints Revelation 15:2 Jeremiah 31:4 (GOD speaking in this verse) 4 Again I will build you, and you shall be rebuilt, O virgin of Israel! You shall again be adorned with your tambourines, And shall go forth in the dances of those who rejoice. Even in Heaven with their perfect voices they had instruments then why not us _ We don't need ark representative in Church because Christian are the Temple of God Christ is always present in Church sermon because He said where there are two or three people gathered in My Name I'm in midst of them _ We should not pray to apostles Romans 1:25 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. Acts 10:25-26 25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.” Acts 14:15 15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them, Revelation 19:10 10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” Revelation 22:8-9 8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things. 9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God." Colossians 2:18 18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, You cannot go to Father through saints nor mary, you can only go to the Father through Lord Jesus Christ= John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father. Holy Spirit intercedes for us=Romans 8:26 26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And CHRIST as well=Romans 8:34 34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. Hebrews 7:25 25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. It's Christ and Holy Spirit who intercedes for us not apostles Even old Old Testament says Christ intercedes for us Isaiah 53:12 12 Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great, And He shall divide the spoil with the strong, Because He poured out His soul unto death, And He was numbered with the transgressors, And He bore the sin of many, And made intercession for the transgressors. _ Jesus said Matthew 23:9 9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. The context is not calling pharisees, sadducees and PRIESTS father and teacher. _ mary being the mother of God? Luke 8:21 But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.” Matthew 12:46-50 46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.” 48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”. Mark 3:35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.” John 19:26-27 26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home. ( Jesus basically said John is the son of mary, and mary is the mother of John from that time onwards). By the way sarah is the mother of all proof=Galatians 4:21-26. Work of God = John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.” _ Humans even with The Holy Spirit & apostolic succession still go wrong. And eastern orthodox is not immune to that 1)Peter was not perfect human nor was he a perfect disciple 2)He sank down while walking on water 3)Our Lord said to peter get behind me satan 4)Peter reject our Lord 3 times 5)Our Lord rebuked Peter for calling fire from heaven 6 Our Lord rebuked Peter when he cut of the soilders ear 7 Paul rebuked Peter for being hypocrite because he was acting different in front of Jews and different in front of gentiles. 8 Moses messed up, and he was a important part of Bible ( that's why he never entered the promised land), 9 David messed up ( and he has the Holy Spirit), 10 King Soloman messed up, 11 Saul messed up and God regretted the decision (1 Samuel 15:10-11). Hatrick (Saul then David then Soloman back to back messed up) 12 The apostles run away a day before Lord Jesus got locked up. 13 The early church messed up Rev 2:18-20, 1 Cor, Galatians. 14 Apostle John when receiving Revelation worshiped an angel and the angel said "see you do not do that. Worship GOD" Rev 22:8-9 15 Paul and Barnabas both had a sharp disagreement on John Mark( Acts 15:36-41). And remember that both were Apostles filled with Holy Spirit. 16 Church in Rev 2:1-6 Lord Jesus Himself said to the church of Ephesus that "I know your works, your labor, your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars" but guess what that church still had problems and Lord also pointed that out "Nevertheless I have this against you, that you have left your first love......" So as you can see Churches can do Biblical & unbiblical things at the same time. If these people could mess up, why do you think the eo church wouldn't mess up.
@mmaakkiinn
@mmaakkiinn 15 күн бұрын
☦️
@briteboy79
@briteboy79 Күн бұрын
Read the title and was like, YUUUP!!
@Gord2236
@Gord2236 2 ай бұрын
More please good sir
@untoages
@untoages 2 ай бұрын
There will be more 🙂 main episodes in this series upload weekly on Mondays!
@mynameis......23
@mynameis......23 18 күн бұрын
​@@untoagesWhy I'm not eastern orthodox 1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach Paul allows bishops to get marry, but eastern orthodox goes against paul. eastern orthodox will give a Verses from 1 Cor7 to say that paul gave the advice to stay unmarried. But they will not tell you that the same chapter they quote says 1 Corinthians 7:28 "even if you do marry, you have not SINNED". The passage literally says "young women, young men" and a bishop is supposed to be a Church ELDER. Christian should not cover their head 1 Corinthians 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. (The head of man is Lord Jesus Christ). So the priests and bishops should not cover their head. ALL Believers of JESUS CHRIST are Royal Priest 1 Peter 2:5,9. Revelation 1:6. Apostles are allowed to marry 1 Cor 9:1-5 Breaking 10 commandments by having carved images, idols, changing the Sabbath to sunday _ I'm more blessed than mary Luke 11:27-28 27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” 28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” In Luke 11:27 that random woman LITERALLY said Jesus your mother is Blessed, but are Lord Jesus LITERALLY said Believers are more Blessed than mary Amen! _ CHRIST alone John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. ACTS 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” There is only One Mediator between God and men, LORD Jesus Christ= 1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus. Hebrew 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. Hebrew 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel. Hebrew 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises. Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by One Spirit to the Father John 15:5 for without Me you can do nothing. Colossians 1:20 and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross. _ Music instruments are allowed for Christians Rev 14:2 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder. And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps. Rev 5:8 8 Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints Revelation 15:2 Jeremiah 31:4 (GOD speaking in this verse) 4 Again I will build you, and you shall be rebuilt, O virgin of Israel! You shall again be adorned with your tambourines, And shall go forth in the dances of those who rejoice. Even in Heaven with their perfect voices they had instruments then why not us _ We don't need ark representative in Church because Christian are the Temple of God Christ is always present in Church sermon because He said where there are two or three people gathered in My Name I'm in midst of them _ We should not pray to apostles Romans 1:25 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. Acts 10:25-26 25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.” Acts 14:15 15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them, Revelation 19:10 10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” Revelation 22:8-9 8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things. 9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God." Colossians 2:18 18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, You cannot go to Father through saints nor mary, you can only go to the Father through Lord Jesus Christ= John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father. Holy Spirit intercedes for us=Romans 8:26 26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And CHRIST as well=Romans 8:34 34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. Hebrews 7:25 25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. It's Christ and Holy Spirit who intercedes for us not apostles Even old Old Testament says Christ intercedes for us Isaiah 53:12 12 Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great, And He shall divide the spoil with the strong, Because He poured out His soul unto death, And He was numbered with the transgressors, And He bore the sin of many, And made intercession for the transgressors. _ Jesus said Matthew 23:9 9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. The context is not calling pharisees, sadducees and PRIESTS father and teacher. _ mary being the mother of God? Luke 8:21 But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.” Matthew 12:46-50 46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.” 48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”. Mark 3:35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.” John 19:26-27 26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home. ( Jesus basically said John is the son of mary, and mary is the mother of John from that time onwards). By the way sarah is the mother of all proof=Galatians 4:21-26. Work of God = John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.” _ Humans even with The Holy Spirit & apostolic succession still go wrong. And eastern orthodox is not immune to that 1)Peter was not perfect human nor was he a perfect disciple 2)He sank down while walking on water 3)Our Lord said to peter get behind me satan 4)Peter reject our Lord 3 times 5)Our Lord rebuked Peter for calling fire from heaven 6 Our Lord rebuked Peter when he cut of the soilders ear 7 Paul rebuked Peter for being hypocrite because he was acting different in front of Jews and different in front of gentiles. 8 Moses messed up, and he was a important part of Bible ( that's why he never entered the promised land), 9 David messed up ( and he has the Holy Spirit), 10 King Soloman messed up, 11 Saul messed up and God regretted the decision (1 Samuel 15:10-11). Hatrick (Saul then David then Soloman back to back messed up) 12 The apostles run away a day before Lord Jesus got locked up. 13 The early church messed up Rev 2:18-20, 1 Cor, Galatians. 14 Apostle John when receiving Revelation worshiped an angel and the angel said "see you do not do that. Worship GOD" Rev 22:8-9 15 Paul and Barnabas both had a sharp disagreement on John Mark( Acts 15:36-41). And remember that both were Apostles filled with Holy Spirit. 16 Church in Rev 2:1-6 Lord Jesus Himself said to the church of Ephesus that "I know your works, your labor, your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars" but guess what that church still had problems and Lord also pointed that out "Nevertheless I have this against you, that you have left your first love......" So as you can see Churches can do Biblical & unbiblical things at the same time. If these people could mess up, why do you think the eo church wouldn't mess up.
@orthobro4806
@orthobro4806 12 күн бұрын
Glory to God.
@ricardochristo9527
@ricardochristo9527 9 күн бұрын
Hey Bud, great video. I was waiting till my last comment in order to have something really important to say. This content is pure gold, even knowing that you have pointed just a few part of your convertion, because there is so much things that came along that we cannot even explain, remember, or transmit. When you know, you know. We try to bring those testimonies to each other, risking to forgot details, but we try. I honestly would like to bring a full conversation into this comment section, but I know it's not possible, but I would like you to know that you're one of that person that you could talk for hours. Here in Brazil we have a massive Roman Catholic tradion, inherited from portuguese. Orthodoxy is almost inexistent over this side, and the majority of Orthodox churches belong to russian patriarchy (which I have some issues regarding the relation between KGB and church leaders). My family is from Roman Catholic tradition, and I suffered a lot of pressure since I left to Baptist. Some of my struggles reffers to pray to saints, virginity of Mary, and other (that still exists in Orthodoxy, but not related about assumption or coronation). I know that thelogy is not about to fit our believes or personal views on the scripptures (it's the exact oposite), but as you pointed Lewis, he had I lot of doubts, because he saw good arguments on Roman, Lutherans, Anglicans, et cetera (this is my "thorn in the flash"). I'm visiting a Lutheran church this sunday. Thank you (and sorry by my english).
@untoages
@untoages 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for this comment! This video is actually the first part of a ten-episode series, so you may be interested in checking out the other videos in this playlist. I’m happy to hear that my story has been of use for you in your searching! While I understand your concerns about Orthodoxy, I’d recommend just visiting an Orthodox parish near you - even if it’s Russian. Come and see, as we Orthodox often say. It may be helpful for you to get to know some in your local community who are Orthodox or to speak to a priest if you have specific questions. God bless you in your journey!
@lollllolll.
@lollllolll. 13 күн бұрын
Glad you found your way ❤
@sacredweights
@sacredweights 14 күн бұрын
Intro is epic bro
@obomathepresident1372
@obomathepresident1372 Ай бұрын
crazy well made intro
@untoages
@untoages Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@miastupid7911
@miastupid7911 16 күн бұрын
@ 13:34 huge smile on the accent. BTW, all of humanity is welcome in CHRIST's Holy Orthodox Christian Church. It belongs to CHRIST HIMSELF. GAL 3.28
@untoages
@untoages 16 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed my terrible Greek impersonation 😂 and thank you!
@miastupid7911
@miastupid7911 16 күн бұрын
@@untoages I ABSOLUTELY ADORED IT. Thank you.
@miastupid7911
@miastupid7911 16 күн бұрын
@@untoages CHRIST BE WITH YOU ALWAYS
@Naflergasin
@Naflergasin Ай бұрын
Really glad to get in early on your videos and subscribe, they’re great
@untoages
@untoages Ай бұрын
Glad you’re here & thanks for checking them out!
@obiwankenobi6871
@obiwankenobi6871 13 күн бұрын
Great work, very underrated Channel! I will sub! ☦️
@shamansstarrywisdom3944
@shamansstarrywisdom3944 21 күн бұрын
Epic edits
@user-sc6zo8lq5i
@user-sc6zo8lq5i 13 күн бұрын
Thank you brother you exist
@TheRealRealOK
@TheRealRealOK 15 күн бұрын
Nice work. Subbed.
@misterstudentloan2615
@misterstudentloan2615 14 күн бұрын
From the frying pan and into the fire. Nice!!
@fluteloop6737
@fluteloop6737 13 күн бұрын
You could have left constructive criticism, but instead chose this shallow, useless comment.
@misterstudentloan2615
@misterstudentloan2615 13 күн бұрын
@@fluteloop6737 right back at ya mate. You could’ve been useful but instead wrote this useless, shallow comment.
@RestoreOrthodoxRome
@RestoreOrthodoxRome 12 күн бұрын
Interesting, didn’t know you were God Himself.. I mean you know who goes to Hell or not.
@ethansevilla1395
@ethansevilla1395 14 күн бұрын
Biggest problem for converting to Orthodoxy……finding one near your home. 😂
@untoages
@untoages 14 күн бұрын
The struggle is real. I drive 45 minutes to get to church 😅
@pabloalvarez7510
@pabloalvarez7510 13 күн бұрын
​@@untoagesmine is 24 hours in bus 💀
@chadvagbuster6580
@chadvagbuster6580 11 күн бұрын
Bro has been listening to that " Orthodox Christian Chant - The Day of Wrath"
@the4gospelscommentary
@the4gospelscommentary 10 күн бұрын
The doctrine of original sin (which includes the notion of guilt) didn’t come from St Augustine, but is present in the writings of St Paul, and in several Church Fathers both before and at the time of Augustine.
@brandonw.peebles4225
@brandonw.peebles4225 12 күн бұрын
I have a similar upbringing and story and am ALMOST there but the one thing that I just can't get behind or understand is why we should pray to dead people who can't hear us. I no longer believe it's a sin or akin to necromancy lol. But I still have a hard time believing that the saints after death have a God-like level of omniscience to hear us all simultaneously praying let alone have any power to assist or respond.
@untoages
@untoages 12 күн бұрын
If you can accept most of Orthodoxy but are having trouble with one or two things, I would just recommend that you go to church and talk to a priest about it. These hurdles can be overcome. I’d also recommend my video “Orthodoxy Is Historically Consistent.” I have a story in there about a particular saint’s intercession that may be of interest to you. God bless!
@untoages
@untoages 11 күн бұрын
Forgive me - I’m realizing now I recommended to you the wrong video. I’m getting them mixed up, my apologies. I’d recommend “Enchantment Is Spiritually Fulfilling.” In that one, I discuss the veneration of saints and the purpose of the sacraments.
@brandonw.peebles4225
@brandonw.peebles4225 9 күн бұрын
@@untoages Oh yeah I saw that one and I appreciate it. I've heard people have lots of emotional stories and connections to saints, I guess I'm more so looking for Biblical proof or evidence that the dead can hear us and respond.
@MichaelKristensen12
@MichaelKristensen12 11 күн бұрын
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@FourTheBeard
@FourTheBeard 2 ай бұрын
☦️
@TheMichaelMonroeDoctrine
@TheMichaelMonroeDoctrine 8 күн бұрын
It makes sense for a Baptist to choose the Othodox church. The reason being the stigma in the Baptist church against the Catholic Church and the pope. It’s only a matter of time before the Othodox and Catholic Church reunifies.
@untoages
@untoages 8 күн бұрын
The stigma against Catholicism didn’t prevent me from considering it. I have plenty of reasons for not going that route though. And I seriously doubt there will be any legitimate reunion between East & West any time soon.
@TheMichaelMonroeDoctrine
@TheMichaelMonroeDoctrine 8 күн бұрын
@@untoages there will be.
@gayfrogs9705
@gayfrogs9705 8 күн бұрын
​@@TheMichaelMonroeDoctrinethe theological differences are too great. It's not happening
@TheMichaelMonroeDoctrine
@TheMichaelMonroeDoctrine 7 күн бұрын
@@gayfrogs9705 nah. The preserved theological differences seem huge but it’s really not. In all honesty the schism was more about the eastern Roman Empire trying to solidify its authority over the crumbling western Roman Empire.
@gayfrogs9705
@gayfrogs9705 7 күн бұрын
@@TheMichaelMonroeDoctrine not even close and completely historical and theologically illiterate. The schism mainly happened over the pope over reaching his authority by adding to the creed without council which the East obviously rejected. Not to mention the vast theological differences that do exist like Essence Energy Distinction vs Absolute Divine Simplicity two systems which are incompatible. Not to mention the Filioque and Papal supremacy, and the countless theological anc cultural innovations of the west since the schism. You're sweeping massive issues under the rug
@toddbryan5818
@toddbryan5818 5 күн бұрын
I have a problem I’m American and there is a limited amount of Orthodox churches and I live with my mother what do I do
@untoages
@untoages 5 күн бұрын
Visit as you’re able, but don’t argue with your parents about it.
@davidw.5185
@davidw.5185 11 күн бұрын
I'm beginning to understand that every denomination exists today via "doctrinal development" or if the church body is ancient like Orthodoxy or Rome, there is still doctrinal development. The question is; which process of doctrinal development is your conscience held captive to? Rome has a process. Orthodoxy has a process. All others have a process etc. Which process was superintended by the Holy Spirit? Each development seems to be a reaction to historical circumstances...
@ssoreal
@ssoreal 2 ай бұрын
Are you cody(dakota) sorenson?
@untoages
@untoages 2 ай бұрын
No
@ownser1
@ownser1 16 күн бұрын
Can someone please explain the skulls and dark imagery around online Orthodoxy? I’m trying to introduce my girlfriend to the church and it kinda threw her off. I said to her that maybe it’s symbolism for the fact that we no longer fear death, but it seams like an odd cultural development.
@untoages
@untoages 16 күн бұрын
It’s a good question. In my case, it’s two-fold. It’s partly symbolic, partly design aesthetic. I drew inspiration from “Death to the World” when it comes to the graphic design for this channel, if you’re familiar with that. With regard to the logo, it’s a simplified version of the crucifixion icon. Many renditions of this icon show Christ on the cross with a skull underneath. This symbolizes 1. The Jewish tradition that Golgotha, the place of the skull, literally had Adam’s skull buried there and 2. Being that Christ is the new Adam, He conquered death by the cross. So the logo is taking inspiration from the theology of that icon. Hope this helps!
@untoages
@untoages 16 күн бұрын
It may also be worthwhile to refer your girlfriend to some Orthodox content from women. What is edifying to some isn’t always edifying to others, after all. Maybe have her look at content from someone like Jasmyne Theodora?
@ownser1
@ownser1 15 күн бұрын
@@untoages I saw Jasmyns testimony a while back, but didn’t know her page was about woman hood. Thanks for the reference!
@Tom30ad
@Tom30ad 14 күн бұрын
It's a put off, for sure. Death, skulls, black, metal type logos. It's very dark imagery and should be left for influence of demons or the cover of a Rob Zombie CD. Christ is light and gives life, not dark and death.
@untoages
@untoages 14 күн бұрын
@@Tom30ad Christ defeated death, so I think it’s fair game to baptize the darkness as well. We can agree to disagree on aesthetics 😉
@3hris
@3hris 16 күн бұрын
I am looking for it now, but it seems that no Orthodox Church has the liturgy in the national language.
@untoages
@untoages 16 күн бұрын
Where are you located, if you don’t mind me asking?
@3hris
@3hris 16 күн бұрын
@@untoages germany
@untoages
@untoages 16 күн бұрын
@@3hris Ah, that’s rough. I know of a website that helps people find a church, but it’s only in America. Finding a church that’s in your language is really important, but as foreign as it may be, I might recommend trying one that isn’t in your language if you can’t find anything else. Try to find someone you can ask questions to when you visit. There are also several parishes over here in the US that are partly in English, partly in another language (depending on the jurisdiction). It may be that way in Germany as well. I hope you’re able to find a good parish!
@3hris
@3hris 16 күн бұрын
@@untoages thanks for you respons. Thats what i will do, i think atleast im not shy^^ Sadly i have to wait 2weeks, because of some scheduls and i think thats the problem right now that i have to wait before i can finde out what acculy will happen. But i know the LORD will Guide.
@untoages
@untoages 16 күн бұрын
@@3hris Absolutely! God is everywhere present and fills all things, so I’m sure He will honor your struggle and meet you where you are.
@Kyrieleisonn
@Kyrieleisonn 9 күн бұрын
Algorithm
@carltonhobbs
@carltonhobbs 11 күн бұрын
Jesus predicted the fall, and taught us in Luke 11:27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” 28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” From Jesus own words, mere believers are better than the Theotokos. We would know the apostasy by those who elevated Mary. It was prophetically expected by the passage above, and the false believers would do it anyway. The centrality of paganism was belief in a Queen of Heaven. Inanna, Isis, Astarte, etc. If you find a Queen of Heaven, you are a pagan even if you call her Mary.
@shamansstarrywisdom3944
@shamansstarrywisdom3944 21 күн бұрын
Do u like black metal
@untoages
@untoages 20 күн бұрын
I like several genres of metal, but black metal doesn’t tend to be one of them
@physiocrat7143
@physiocrat7143 13 күн бұрын
It's made by heat treatment of iron to a certain temperature. The Black Prince wore amour of blackened steel. Sometimes known as Russian Iron.
@untoages
@untoages 13 күн бұрын
@@physiocrat7143 Sorry I’m not familiar 😅
@physiocrat7143
@physiocrat7143 13 күн бұрын
​@@untoages Russian Iron. It's a special finish used before heat resistant paint were developed.
@carltonhobbs
@carltonhobbs 11 күн бұрын
Augustine might be the greatest evil in the history of written world influence. He argued for infant damnation and righteous persecution. See City of God, Book 1 Ch. 26. He is a father of Catholicism and Luther and Calvin doubled-down on being pro-Augustinian. Christianity begins where Augustinianism ends. John Milton's Areopagitica is the best exposition of that.
@the4gospelscommentary
@the4gospelscommentary 10 күн бұрын
St Augustine is one of the most important theologians of the early church. You are correct that he was a Roman Catholic, but that is only your implicit admission that Roman Catholicism was the religion of the early church.
@untoages
@untoages 10 күн бұрын
Well, I’d be careful with thinking that. St. Augustine is still considered a saint in the Orthodoxy Church, and the councils revere him as a Father of the Church, even. Still, he did get a lot wrong and made a lot of retractions later in life. I would just be cautious not to fall into the extreme on either side.
@carltonhobbs
@carltonhobbs 10 күн бұрын
@@the4gospelscommentary Augustine invented theology to explain post-Apostolic accretions & innovations and attempt to save the dying Roman Empire. Origin first imagined a justification of the new practice of infant baptism by inventing the new idea of original sin, which Augustine would make into a doctrine. What Origin's imagination created to tolerate, Augustine's theology fused it into a new mandate. Early Roman catacombs record that youth near death would be given baptism, but it wasn't something given at birth. The justification for infant baptism (infant damnation) was truly an evil innovation. Even Judaism records infants were not given the mikvah because they were not impure. (Talmud Yevamot 47a) Such was the innovation of when Christianity paganized, (1 Timothy 4)
@the4gospelscommentary
@the4gospelscommentary 10 күн бұрын
@@carltonhobbs You have no evidence for these wild accusations. The doctrine of original sin is taught in the Bible, and by all of the Church Fathers, not just Augustine and Origen. The practice of infant baptism was widely spread in the early church, and while it's true that baptism was delayed in some parts of the church, it was not because they didn't believe in original sin. Rather, the argument was that it is better to wait until a person makes a conscious decision against sin, otherwise those baptized in their infancy will just fall in sins again in their youth, and then no baptism remains for them. You can agree or disagree with this line of argumentation, but you cannot use it as a supposed "proof" that there was no belief in original sin in the early church. Also, on your view, it would make no sense even to baptize those infants that are in danger of death, since there is supposedly no sin in them that they need to be cleansed of. So your admission that infants in the danger of death were baptized, is evidence of the early Christian belief in original sin.
@the4gospelscommentary
@the4gospelscommentary 10 күн бұрын
@@untoages Augustine is revered by several contemporary saints - Jerome, Pope Celestine, Prosper - as one of the greatest Christian teachers. In the Second Council of Constantinople, Augustine is named together with the other great Fathers, whose writings are declared as safe to follow: "We further declare that we hold fast to the decrees of the four Councils, and in every way follow the holy Fathers, Athanasius, Hilary, Basil, Gregory the Theologian, Gregory of Nyssa, Ambrose, Theophilus, John (Chrysostom) of Constantinople, Cyril, AUGUSTINE, Proclus, Leo and their writings on the true faith." Nothing at all is mentioned, that we need to be any more careful about Augustine's writings, because of his supposed "innovations", or later retractions. As a matter of fact, since you mentioned retractions, can you name any SUBSTANTIAL retractions that Augustine had to made?
@makenoimage
@makenoimage 12 күн бұрын
Pete wouldn't recognize what's become of His Bride...we are to live AS He did...makes sense His Bride lives as her groom does...it's not like His house is divided... as if the disciples who were continuing daily with one accord in the temple praising Yah having favor with all the people taught and demonstrated "Sabbath is done away with now...in fact His whole calendar is...we are on the Roman one now...and since the Torah became flesh we must make images and bring them here to bow and serve...oh and we can eat pork now"...LOL the zealous Jews wanted to kill the disciples merely for teaching One resurrected...as if the FALSE WITNESS of the slandering Synagoge of Freedman was TRUE..."we have heard preached 'Jesus' did change the customs Moses delivered to us"...Luke was clear this was FALSE WITNESS because Stephen did NOT preach nor demonstrate that because He did NOT do that...else it would be TRUE WITNESS. Acts 6:9-14 Pete said rather we obey Yah rather than follow men's traditions...no matter how old...the peer pressure of succession...the famous councils (Nicea was attended by 318/1800 Bishops about 18% of all who were invited)
@untoages
@untoages 12 күн бұрын
You sound very theologically and historically confused.
@makenoimage
@makenoimage 12 күн бұрын
​@@untoages probably to uncircumcised ears yes...but even the message of the cross is foolishness to some...others even twist the writing of Paul warned Pete let me know if I can help clarify...but for starters...live as He lived includes much yours doesn't and excludes even more which yours does...
@turbodiesel2961
@turbodiesel2961 12 күн бұрын
can anyone translate this to English?
@makenoimage
@makenoimage 12 күн бұрын
@@turbodiesel2961 we start mocking when? What you need translated? The live as He lived part?
@turbodiesel2961
@turbodiesel2961 11 күн бұрын
@@makenoimage No, you're not making any sense.
@user-cg5lm6ii8q
@user-cg5lm6ii8q 27 күн бұрын
ACCORDING ST.MAXIMUS THE CONFESSOR THE ORTHODOX TRUE FAITH CONTAINS ALL THE THEOLOGY AND ALL THE GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT YOU ARE RISEN FROM THE HELL OF THIS WORLD CORRUPTED AND AGAINST GOD. THE GOD S LOVE BE NEVER WITH YOU.
@basiliskir8771
@basiliskir8771 14 күн бұрын
How can you be orthodox and don't worship Theotokos?? This doesn't make sense
@untoages
@untoages 14 күн бұрын
We do venerate her? I’m not sure where you got that idea from this video. It’s the first part of a series so you may be mistaking my first perceptions of Orthodoxy when I was a Protestant.
@mingjchang988
@mingjchang988 13 күн бұрын
Orthodox Christians only worship God. We honor/venerate Mary and the saints.
@NikolasSerpanos
@NikolasSerpanos 5 күн бұрын
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@personreanimation
@personreanimation 11 күн бұрын
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