How Mystery Incorporated Succeeded Where The Velma Show Failed // Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated

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In This BreakDown And Review We See What Made Mystery Incorporated Work So Well And We See Why Its Better Than The New Velma Show

[@themehemoji]

We have done full reviews on why Velma sucks literally yesterday go watch them if you haven’t.

[@burninglite9908]

Will do

[@Weed69420]

Weed

[@onceafetus426]

Will do 2x

[@robbiewalker2831]

This is me trying both "Velma" and "Mystery Incorporated": kzbin.info/www/bejne/majRlmWpnNh8qtE

[@jtaylor405]

I started rewatching this morning and when Fred came back running with the body telling Shaggy to start the car I was dying laughing. Funnier than anything in Velma ep1&2

[@Furbyknockoffchannel]

I’m glad you guys are reviving this show it deserves more attention

[@pacoramon9468]

Ironically, the Velma show feels way less mature that the show that couldn’t use bad language because airing in a kids network.

[@rushalias8511]

Thays because Velma's idea of maturity is gore, sex, drugs, and cussing. Which is honestly just terrible adult comedy in my opinion. Like I would call that the equivalent of kid fart jokes for adults. Meanwhile you had the actual adult themes in mystery Inc like greed and abuse, psychological manipulation. Heck for a comparison you have fred in both shows suffer with some kind of parental abuse....but while Velma makes it a joke and punch line, mystery Inc actually treats it seriously...which is what an adult should do.

[@malcerne7496]

Honestly… a lot of good “kid shows” are indeed more mature than most generic “adult shows”… that because, as explained by the other user here, many producers think that being an adult show only means a bunch of pointless swearing, sex jokes and violence, without any reason or consequences whatsoever. …like… pretty much everything became bad Family Guy clones…

[@ChisomagaIhezie]

Kid friendly restrictions.

[@robbiewalker2831]

As if Mystery Incorporated is any better with the way they treat the Mystery Gang.

[@adrianaxelssonpersson2456]

Well one thing that is important to think about when it comes to "adult" and "kid" shows is this, a good show is good regardless of the target audience and a bad show is bad regardless of the target audience.

[@halfasleepalex]

I couldn't better happier that Velma released. It's finally making people remember what the true best Scooby Doo series is.

[@warknightxl2167]

I always find kids cartoon shows like scooby doo mystery incorporated to be more interesting, creative and enjoyable than adult cartoons like Velma.

[@maurixd320]

And more creepy

[@raf686]

Funny becuase this felt like an ACTUAL good adultish cartoon. Adultish in the sense of backstories it showed for each character. More mature.

[@truthiskey8625]

Episode 1 of velma is terrible so terrible and disturbing as well especially the pregnant baby scene as well

[@imjustgoingtochangemychann7004]

I mean it's normal for women getting pregnant (I don't support Velma)

[@toyaleejb7714]

@@frankbrowder8978 ok what happened. Why are ya'll freaking out😦

[@a1m3v]

the baby kept trying to escape the womb and it was horrifying

[@emptyteardrops]

@@frankbrowder8978 ​ @imjustgoingtochangemychann7004 they’re not saying that pregnant women are disturbing to look at, they’re talking about the scene where the baby tries to escape the womb.

[@DylanoRevs]

Sex jokes in Velma: Constant mentions of sex and other uncomfortable shit. Sex jokes in Mystery incorporated: *Happy Tapioca*

[@willnack5315]

This show makes me think that Velma x Shaggy could work if Velma wasn’t getting advice from Daphne (in any version of Scooby-Doo that’s a bad idea unless you’re asking for fashion advice) and if she was willing to let go of some of her control. I will also admit that I could see Velma being Bi but only with the right girl, aka NOT Daphne (her liking Fred is so ingrained in Scooby lore, it’s kinda surprising they haven’t had any kids yet)!

[@gametap2651]

That’s what most of are saying, the highest they have gotten in their relationship is marriage.

[@bjrj8117]

Well technically they have, at the end of Mystery Inc after the evil is defeated they get set in a world where the curse never existed and Fred and Daphne in that world were pregnant and were about to get married

[@willnack5315]

I believe they weren’t expecting at the end of that series. Engaged, yes but there were no kids yet!

[@bjrj8117]

@@willnack5315 Oh alright my bad I thought it was something like that been a bit since I've seen the ending

[@seed_drill7135]

I kind of think Shaggy may be ace, like Zonker Harris from Doonesbury.

[@breadnbutter4710]

I think another thing worth mentioning that makes Mystery Inc better than the first Velma episode - though let's be real, there wasn't any real competition because the Velma show is hot hot trash - is how Mystery Inc shows feminism - or rather, it's female characters. I like how in Mystery Inc, you would think the girls would dress up and act as bait, but instead Scoob and Shaggy crossdress. But in the Velma show, we see the blatant disrespect to Daphne who is NUDE in the first scene and gets beaten up. Wow, I'm sure that's very empowering(!). Followed up by how massively unlikable Velma is. (But then again, everyone in the Velma Show is written like a caricature). I also think it's worth mentioning the creepiness with the pregnant lady and the mutant fetus. Feels like some weird writer fetish at sexualisation of the pregnant woman.

[@themehemoji]

Mystery inc uses the actual definition of feminism instead of these new shows legitimately just showing hate towards anything not female

[@luluzin5022]

Velma writers: "our show is so woke and progressive, we hate sexism" Also Velma writers: "we made Daphne a mean girl. why? she's pretty, so she must be a b!tch. she's also 15 and naked in the first episode"

[@grenouillesupreme]

Just because a female character gets beaten doesn't make the show sexist

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

@@grenouillesupreme no it was how they did it

[@asalways1504]

Not only that, but she’s put in homoerotic situation’s with Velma to imply. They’re meant to be a couple, despite showing nothing but hostility, and vitriol towards each other.

[@Lurker1979]

Mystery Inc was great. I wish it had more seasons.

[@themehemoji]

Yeah it was amazing.

[@thatguy3332]

I heard a rumor they wanted to have Maybe another season that connected with the original series in some way. Unfortunately I think CN deliberately sabotaged it so they could put out that cheaper Show where Daphne was a loon.

[@LAKNIGHT2K]

Fred stealing the body is always funny to me

[@stormeaglegaming5395]

This show is such a great show doing an actual great spin on the Scooby Doo Gang

[@teeleaf9252]

You have no idea how much I'm loving the fact that Mystery incorporated is getting so much attention after the utter disaster of the Velma series. This show was my childhood.

[@WilliamAGould]

Good video. Though, do not forget about the key shaped locket being found. It is hard to talk about Mystery Inc without spoiling a really well written series story arc. But, the series is well done in almost in every way. Except two. The animation is simple, but the artists for the series did a lot with that animation. A simple format with very detailed artists. Not much musical difference, but when there is a musical difference, it is good. For those that do not know, Mystery Inc was made a decade ago. It flew under the radar. That is probably for the best, because it gives people a chance to watch the series as a way to clean their minds of that mess.

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

Simple because Mystery Incorporated was an actual Scooby doo show that loved the source material whereas Velma is embarrassed by it and changes iconic characters

[@ulfingvar1]

Mystery Inc. is the Citizen Kane of the Scooby franchise. Period.

[@googleblockedme5543]

Take known characters, expand on their background and personal interactions, but above all, stay true to their original personalities. That’s how to do it.

[@beargreen1]

Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated goes straight into the the Cove and is much better than the mocking Velma

[@MrPublickenemy1]

Whoa, they actually showed dead bodies on Cartoon Network like that? I wasn’t aware at the time it was out.

[@NtGoat_AKA_Goatie]

Mystery Incorporated knows it roots unlike some other show… *cough* Velma *cough*

[@Graywolf335]

It didn't go down the woke sjw route, it stayed true to the characters while expanding their personal stories and gave us a series long mistery and adventure. Pretty simple success formula

[@thatjackass1403]

im starting to think you might be Velma's biggest fan i mean 4 videos in a row with Velma content that stuff only a fan would do

[@themehemoji]

There are 3 channel hosts, 2 videos were too review, 1 was to see why it failed, and this 4th one is by a different channel host and it reviews the differences to what was good and what made Velma bad

[@Hepheat75]

This show was my childhood, it's way better than the Velma trash.

[@gibbs615]

This Scooby series was much better cause it was a little different from the usual stuff, like when Daphne was dating someone else for a change and Fred was just a trapahollic fool she couldn't stand no longer. Also Scooby was being a little more brave too.

[@Peepin_]

See this? This was actual gold Unlike the Velma show

[@gimmeyourrights8292]

Mystery Incorporated did the entire "get to know the Mystery gang" way better than that thing on HBO Max. And no one can change my mind.

[@garrettviewegh9028]

Where Velma butchers the iconic Hex Girls, Mystery Incorporated gave us two episodes where they kick ass by rocking out, and look good doing it. Seriously, the steampunk and Victorian style costume designs were so great. Even got a new song to get stuck in my head.

[@annieandelsieofarendelle3294]

To me, it's what they did to Fred. Okay, sure he had always been a bit bland but he was still a good person who loved his friends and treated Daphne with respect in every incarnation even if he was a little dense on the uptake and he definitely was never n@zi misogynist who can't do anything for himself. Heck in Mystery Inc, he was usually the one making all their traps.

[@ReelJV]

I never watched Scooby Doo as a child or at all. I watched Velma, to give it a shot - one episode was enough torture. I then decided to watch Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated - I almost busted a gut laughing so hard. It truly was a lot of fun and just a real joy - from characters, to writing, to set ups and pay offs. Wonderful stuff -- I will be watching more of that show and never touch Velma again.

[@crimsondragon1794]

maybe if we get enough people watching this show instead they might pick up on the cliff hanger at the end of the show.

[@bliczb8772]

Speaking of Mystery Inc. - I remember that show had some... Subtextual jokes, so to say. I remember how in Season 2, the gang was on the outskirts, and in there, they met Sheriff Stone and Mayor Janet. They were coming out from the bushes, and their clothes were seriously unkempt, Janet even had hat on her that Sheriff wore. And to top it all off, they had ridiculous excuse as to what they were doing. The joke was obvious - they were having sex. There was no need to show them having it, audience could easily infer it from what they were presented. Plus it followed consistency, as in that episode, Bronson and Janet went on a date prior. Not to mention it's not like they were exactly subtle about it. But it worked. Now, even though this issue is applicable to Velma, it is present pretty much everywhere in modern storytelling - everything needs to be overt and explicit. Everything needs to be said outright. The concept of subtelty and subtext is just gone. Case and point - everybody in the show makes fun of Fred for having a small penis, by saying that's the case. No subtextual teasing, just overt acknowledgment. As much as I hate to mock others intelligence, I believe it has to do with modern creatives simply lacking said intelligence or perception to create or see anything even remotely subtle. It is best evidenced by the fact that once they try to create something subtle, they're still overt about it.

[@soapybsuds]

i was literally thinking the same thing while watching ep 1 of velma. this show basically does the "adult style humour and references" in a smart way while still being enjoyable for kids.

[@jeremyusreevu237]

Wait, you mean taking actual effort to make a good show, and not just a series of unfunny meta jokes, MAKES A GOOD SHOW?! WHAAAAA?!

[@ravenouself4181]

> Didn't change character's races > Wasn't filled with rage filled and resentful characters > Didn't change the core of the character's personality > Had a good understanding of what humor is > Didn't have Daphne turn into a cheating bitch > Didn't remove Scooby Edit: The slime could easily be a dehydrating agent. Let me explain. In large quantities it dehydrates You completely, but, in small and controlled doses - it dehydrates You enough to make You thirsty and thus, make You want to drink more. It's the perfect drink, in the eyes of an evil corporation. *stares at Nestle*

[@ejcrews5508]

They should have made a third season of mystery incorporated not the Velma show

[@doctorspindash2.086]

Which is why I will not check out Velma but I will we watching a lot of scooby doo incorporated

[@silksongreleasedate5883]

I love this show and the fact that they write a mystery spanning the entire show and is still written very well hell they started it ep 1

[@isaganidespabiladeras411]

Well to be fair, Velma set the bar so low that anything can surpass it. Hell even dbz evotution or whatever that live-action movie what surpassed it

[@willnack5315]

I said this in a different video, but it’s so bad adding Scrappy-Doo to the mix would be an improvement!

[@niteriemcfarlane5285]

@@willnack5315 scrappy doo should've been in mystery incorporated f*ck the "velma" show

[@The-Rguy]

No Norvell is not my Shaggy because fot 1 his name is freaking Norvelln I know that's his real name but it's never Norvell it's always Shaggy they even mentioned that fact in this show, and he's against drugs and stoners! It's Shaggy! The 3 things you're not supposed to change he is a implied stoner, his name is Shaggy, and Scooby-Doo. At first I was intrigued at the thought of Mindy Kaling becoming Vilma but the fact that she is changing so much in massive waves and meta commenting on it is just pissing me off

[@williamsmith4414]

I'd say the horror in Mystery Incorporated still creeps me out, and that Velma should've got Scooby in there, and maybe it would've worked out.

[@Yamchasballs]

I actually like mystery inc. It at least kept the characters more like they were originally minus a few things. But the few changes made were not overly done. Some things in the show were annoying but at least made it seem like original scooby. Meanwhile Velma just changed everyone and made them so hateable. It makes no one feel real, or how they originally were. Its just completely b.s. whoever thouggt velma was a good idea was high and not in the good way.

[@Drixenol86]

I really enjoyed Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated.

[@Slick_Nick7567]

3 officers of the law he also played Buzz Lightyear lol

[@gabrieldjatienza6971]

This is how a more mature Scooby cartoon is meant to be made in light of the awful Velma cartoon.

[@Pilligrim-gd3oe]

I'm glad that you did that comparassion. Because everyone compare it with the OG goofy one. But I always liked more serious Mystery Incorporated so I always wanted to someone to compare those 2 that have a reputation of "serious" ones in Scooby universe

[@EndieGaming]

Weird hearing my voice and seeing myself on a channel that’s not my own

[@dwaynesmart9447]

And i still to this day think that mistery inc is the best

[@AngelicoCiudad]

Scooby mystery Inc = writing by formal writers that had creativity, unique, and talent. Velma = writing by modern woke writers...

[@FernandoCastro-fv2zm]

Why did people knowledge mystery incorporated when Velma came out

[@nicoservin2870]

Imaging being kid and realize that they swaped everyone race but they are the same characters. Like they need you to care about race, they want you to be racist

[@alexgordon9508]

1 millisecond of this show will always be superior to………whatever the fuck Velma is supposed to be

[@willnack5315]

Proof that adding pro-minority stuff just to try and bring in more viewers doesn’t always work!

[@alexgordon9508]

@@willnack5315 Mystery Inc. had diversity too, but it wasn’t hot ass

[@avus-kw2f213]

3:23 the networks used to ban stereotypes (and long words) from Hanna Barbera cartoons

[@adamharkness5581]

I realy want to have a full session review from him

[@themehemoji]

I’ll see if I can convince the host who made this video to make a full review

[@bigrandyistheone]

Velma just revied mystery incorporated

[@themehemoji]

Great vid endie welcome to the team

[@Python085]

I remember this series! It was great and knew how to tell a great story. I want to get this series on DVD!

[@midnightfox3157]

This show will always be my fav Scooby doo show wayyy better than Velma

[@optimascrime5235]

Why is the show so much better then Velma.....Literally everything else aside the show has Scooby Doo in it 😂

[@soras7861]

I love this show

[@cowgaming7186]

what do you mean? insulting stereotypes is SOOOOOOO funny!!!!! even MORE funny when they do it constantly.

[@oriraviv7219]

I'm so angry that the awful velma show uses the name crystal cove from the best scooby doo show (mystery incorporated)

[@jeffthekillercriticremixer5968]

There were two things wrong with mystery Incorporated that makes me give it an 80 instead of 100 Velma and Scooby-Doo fighting for shaggy's affection and the overarching story that went on too long

[@BlueBlazeKing]

Wait didn’t it end at like episode 10

[@niteriemcfarlane5285]

don't care it didn't ruin the show still way better than trash "velma" show 🚴🏿‍♂️💀

[@jeffthekillercriticremixer5968]

@@niteriemcfarlane5285 100 times better

[@niteriemcfarlane5285]

@@jeffthekillercriticremixer5968 facts and W have a cookie btw 🍪

[@lnsflare1]

Kronk was kind of a Law Enforcement Officer.

[@LegoReader12345hello]

Indeed I watched the first season when it came out, then I dropped out the second season when the cable went out, so that’s why last year in hbo max I finally watched it and it was awesome!

[@smokebomb024]

Best Scooby show ever

[@Zeldafan-fp3uu]

There is a singular joke in this episode that is better than anything in Velma and it isn’t even said after the professor is revealed to be the villain looking for money daphne goes “but you have a job as a teacher why do you need need more money?” To which the professor responds with just a blank face that’s how you do a social commentary joke right

[@panjamysy]

The best of the modern Scooby remakes. Loved Mystery Inc.

[@joshuahaynes1026]

In response to Partick Warburton, I will always hear brock samson first and foremost, then Krunk.

[@AngelicoCiudad]

I always wondered why wasn't Scooby-Doo mystery incorporated wasn't very popular, like Gravity Falls, when both are very similar but mystery Inc. came out first.

[@raf686]

She show actually had great story and cared about EACH of the characters imo.

[@Overwatch2010]

I grow up with the original Scooby-Doo and thank god this form succeeded but my god I didn’t even seen the Velma one but from the clips I’ve seen I’m good

[@theflyingdropbear2009]

doing an origin story for a series like Scooby Doo shouldn't be all that difficult, and yet against all the odds the Velma show continues to lower the bar. create a mystery-solving club in school, solve mysteries, as a reward get a van which will later become the first mystery machine, Fred fixes it up with the help of Daphne and her family's wealth, continue to solve mysteries, then nearing the end of the story, they buy a pup named Scooby Doo. Then they graduate and start travelling to solve mysteries throughout America, and boom origin story is done, easy as you like it. You don't need to change much, bring in some of the campy humor that was well-known from the original, they don't need to write the characters in a way that makes them different to what they were from the original.

[@franconunez925]

Velma might have been an uninspired piece of crap that only feeds itself in hate watching... But at least is rising the Scooby-Doo "fandom" from the dead.

[@Appointmentplease]

The thing that makes me hate this ‘Shaggy’ more is that he’s actually supposed to be shaggy as they didn’t even technically change his name since Shaggy is just a nickname

[@callmejacob3234]

it succeeded by staying to true to the characters it gave us a fresh modern version of Scooby-Doo which Velma failed to do Velma just made all of our favorite characters very unlikable what WB should have done was brought back Mystery Incorporated because it was great Daphne and Fred were a great couple like always, Scooby and Shaggy were great, and best of all it gave Velma a girlfriend and it wasn't forced Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated is a masterpiece and it's my favorite version of Scooby-Doo while Velma is that one drunken affair in a twenty year long marriage it was a mistake and shouldn't have happened

[@vincehill4224]

Hands down the best scooby series imo

[@halokid1002]

Uncrippled joe swanson automatically makes this show the best

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

Mystery Incorporated was dark to that show has a kill count

[@jaded9234]

I've been seeing "Velma" or "Velma"-adjacent content quite a bit the last few days and I've noticed that basically all of them seem to have around 30 or so dislikes. I'm starting to think it's the same group, just on a mission to dislike any video regarding the "Velma" dumpster-fire.

[@themehemoji]

Lol

[@moisesmunguiafalloutmoises112]

Although if everyone is tired of watching the shitstorm that is Velma (or Mindy), they will watch Mystery Incorporated said and if they think it's overrated well they would actually watched the original Scooby-Doo show instead

[@bagofdoorknobs1086]

Part of why the new Velma show bothered me is because the writers took old characters that they didn't initially create and tried to "fix" them. These characters were created something like twenty years ago. They have history and stories that go along through and with all the other shows. Velma is like a edgy cringey fanfic compared to everything else.

[@crashban4t.f.s.b783]

Not cancelling the Velma show will be awful for HBO MAX in the long run.

[@gxtmfa]

But Velma did succeed: it’s the #1 most discussed show at the moment. This was all on purpose. They intentionally made something terrible to generate buzz.

[@speakingwithoutnet]

But how many people are going to sign up to HBO to watch it? How many people will watch beyond the first episode? If its just talked about but not watched, its a failure.

[@Melon-Head1789]

Imagin when people find out that Velma is white and straight 😆

[@9Jaker9]

Teen titans go looked better than velma

[@niteriemcfarlane5285]

trash vs garbage 🗑

[@halleyk7Art]

Was there a reason Mystery Incorporated only got 2 seasons? Was that the plan or did it get cancelled?

[@unironicallydel7527]

even if we can agree that the scooby doo multiverse is a thing and is real, Velma (the show) still sucks. And would not fit in to it.

[@cureforintroversion1262]

Not having a self-insert narcissistic actress helps

[@KateCantDraw]

The only thing mystery Inc did wrong was try and make Velma straight but like it's not awful for a never seen before heterosexual romance

[@MDComix]

Mystery inc season 3 cmon warner

[@Lucia-2107]

How long have u been drawing for

[@themehemoji]

Hi, I think it’s fanart, I’ll try to get endie to come and reply to you for an accurate answer

[@EndieGaming]

heya, i actually dont draw, my talk sprites were made by a good friend of mine!

[@Lucia-2107]

@@EndieGaming ok. Ly!

[@boi7316]

Which is a better low quality Scooby Doo show? Be cool Scooby Doo or Velma?

[@Pon-PonG9]

Velma is just absolutely terrible. Be Cool Scooby-Doo is actually good it's just that the art style is so different compared to Mystery Incorporated which made a lot of people dislike Be cool.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

Be cool scooby doo is actually good the comedy is great it's just the art style that makes people think it's bad unlike velma which is fucking terrible.

[@boi7316]

@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 This, I can totally agree with

[@namelesscomedy1899]

work on your delivery. nice vid any way!!

[@Mercy.Beloved]

I wish they went past high school and did college, because I wanted to see their futures as adults. I just hate how Velma got off scot free after being an abusive and shitty girlfriend to Shaggy. Like, everyone blames ONLY Shaggy. As a woman, it doesn’t make any sense to me. Have her go with Marcy in the beginning. Don’t even do this. I hated that relationship between her and Shaggy. Hateddd it. They both were so awful to each other.

[@Fato4Life]

Here before 2.49k subs

[@sanjayvinko1089]

Faux Wheel Drive

[@80sdreamwave32]

Love mystery incorporated great and yes Velma show sucks

[@cartooncentral263]

I don’t like Mystery Incorporated. It’s my top three least favorite Scooby-Doo.

[@themehemoji]

Fair enough!

[@nickdalby2168]

YEAH I DON'T THINK VELMA DINKLEY SUCKS WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE

[@themehemoji]

Lol