How Narcissa LIED to Voldemort REVEALED! | Harry Potter Film Theory

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@JessicaClark-lq4gw
@JessicaClark-lq4gw Жыл бұрын
I always assumed the relief Narcissa felt at hearing Draco was alive, moments before pronouncing Harry dead, was misconstrued by Voldemort. Narcissa was tense as she approached Harry. After Harry telling her Draco was alive she was relieved. She had already been asking to go find her son (Voldemort says so) so when he feels the shift in her emotions from being tense and upset to relief he assumed that it was relief Harry was dead and she could go find Draco. He didnt notice her lie because he didnt listen to it. He had already had Harrys death "confirmed" by her emotions so there was no need to pay attention to her words.
@alexandragrace8164
@alexandragrace8164 Жыл бұрын
Well put
@pankajtalesara6766
@pankajtalesara6766 Жыл бұрын
its not real emotions, they are actors doing acting
@JessicaClark-lq4gw
@JessicaClark-lq4gw Жыл бұрын
@pankajtalesara6766 i am literally talking about fictional characters in a fictional story and a theory on how a fictional story works when one of the fictional characters can magically read minds. In what way, shape, or form does that make you think i believe any of it is real?
@kylewilsonriley
@kylewilsonriley Жыл бұрын
@@JessicaClark-lq4gw Well put again
@indigoopal8417
@indigoopal8417 Жыл бұрын
Very observational 🥰
@AnnaYoungStories
@AnnaYoungStories Жыл бұрын
Narcissa being an Occumens makes 100% sense. With a husband like that, one crazy sister, one "blood traitor" sister. Also, Narcissa definitely airs on the silent-hauty-one who holds her cards close to her chest. Why would she tell anyone she is an occumens? She's not the braggy one in the Malfoy family... It just suites her personality.
@44EricRH44
@44EricRH44 Жыл бұрын
100%
@jenniferdaniels701
@jenniferdaniels701 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that and being an underestimated mother together. She's "Just a mom" like Molly, can't possibly be a strong witch/ wizard. Her strength came out when protecting her kid/ caring more about the kid's safety than her own when it really mattered.
@ItBe_Kanti
@ItBe_Kanti Жыл бұрын
She's a black however, and I think she and her sister learned at the same time, because bella had taught draco how to do it.
@Xiassen
@Xiassen Жыл бұрын
Didn't Snape or someone make a comment to Draco saying "you're mother's been teaching you Occlumency" when trying to cross-examine him?
@ashleythompson8530
@ashleythompson8530 Жыл бұрын
Draco says it when Snape tries to do Legilimens to learn what Draco is up to. He tells him but to bother trying, that his mom's been teaching him occlumency
@tobiasdarkrai1134
@tobiasdarkrai1134 Жыл бұрын
Now that I think about it, maybe the reason Voldemort always underestimates a mother's love is because he never had that experience for himself.
@Chellebelle121
@Chellebelle121 6 ай бұрын
Yup
@Locedamius
@Locedamius Жыл бұрын
Remember the moment when Harry for the first time was able to lock Voldemort out of his mind? It was when he mourned Dobby. And Harry himself even makes this connection that his mourning (aka love) can counter Voldemort's power. I think it is pretty well established in the story that Narcissa uses this same principle here (though being pretty good at occlumency to begin with probably helps).
@Boundwithflame23
@Boundwithflame23 Жыл бұрын
I think technically it was the second time. The first time was after Sirius died.
@gingersnap8543
@gingersnap8543 Жыл бұрын
@@Boundwithflame23even then he wasn’t able to stop it. What stopped it was when Voldemort tried to actually physically possess Harry, which causes immense pain to Voldemort and causes him to retreat
@cl8733
@cl8733 Жыл бұрын
He pushed Voldemort out from possessing him by remembering friendship and love at the end of order of the Phoenix during the Battle in the ministry.
@gingersnap8543
@gingersnap8543 Жыл бұрын
@@cl8733 no, not the case at all. It’s the presence of the charm in Harry’s bloodstream that makes it agony for him, just like touching Harry as a child was agony. He cannot exist in the same space as Harry, and that’s also why dumbledore was able to safely tell Harry of the prophecy afterward, because he knew that Voldemort would never attempt to possess or enter his mind intentionally ever again
@cl8733
@cl8733 Жыл бұрын
​@@gingersnap8543 I don't think so. That spell is broken at that point, since Voldemort used Harry's blood in his resurrection. I just looked it up and I admit the book is quite unclear in that regard: Voldemort possesses Harry, which is incredibly painful for him. He wants to be dead, and when he thinks that he will be united with Sirius then, making peace with the thought of dying, Voldemort leaves him. Dumbledore only explains that Harry possesses some sort of power Voldemort doesn't have, and usually that's always the power of love. I don't exactly remember how this is handled in the movie, but I think it's some happy memories Harry has which push Voldemort out. He can't be in such a happy place, I guess.
@Hectza
@Hectza Жыл бұрын
I like to think that the 3 mothers in the final battle have a tie to the 3 deathly hallows: 1. Lily & Resurrection Stone: Lily still saving Harry after her death 2. Molly & Elder Wand: Molly saving her daughter by battling Bellatrix with her wand 3. Narcissa & Invisibility Cloak: Narcissa having to conceal her thoughts from Voldemort as a result of her care and worry for Draco
@ColeAndPhoebeForever
@ColeAndPhoebeForever Жыл бұрын
That's a really cool idea and it totally makes sense, awesome!
@shadeblackwolf1508
@shadeblackwolf1508 Жыл бұрын
Well caught parallel
@riversimone9516
@riversimone9516 Жыл бұрын
Good theory!
@indianikolwimbush2268
@indianikolwimbush2268 Жыл бұрын
This was a powerful comment ! Truly all three mothers acted out of love and that’s what kept their children safe!!! Something only a mother can do! This is what makes a mothers love the most Powerful weapon in the world !!
@kathleencowley7772
@kathleencowley7772 Жыл бұрын
Good points! 100% agree.
@jacb523
@jacb523 Жыл бұрын
I never thought the baby Voldemort thing at king's cross was the Voldemort from the forest. I thought it was the part of his soul that he unintentionally lost. The part in his reborn body world be in his own limbo. The king's cross limbo was only for Harry. That was my take on it when reading it.
@kiminimuchu__
@kiminimuchu__ Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I never read it as Voldemort experiencing the King's Cross "dream" at that moment, that was simply the piece of soul that was inside Harry being left there.
@christianeedel5160
@christianeedel5160 Жыл бұрын
Agree. Especially as it‘s all “happening inside (Harry’s) head”. Only the part of Voldemort’s soul that was in Harry is at King’s Cross.
@kenmrock9334
@kenmrock9334 Жыл бұрын
It was the holcrux that went to die.
@heatherann9548
@heatherann9548 Жыл бұрын
It was definitely the Horcrux inside Harry that Voldemort destroyed. For proof, Dumbledore tells Harry he can’t help it. Dumbledore’s definitely not the type to give up on people (understatement of the year). He even tells Harry that there’s still hope for Voldemort.
@FWbaracuss
@FWbaracuss Жыл бұрын
Nailed it
@patrickbrown247
@patrickbrown247 Жыл бұрын
5) Voldy had never been knocked out before and was so afraid that he had a second of doubts. Realized he was doubting. Used Occlumency to shield his own mind from potential intrusions from followers who saw his moment of weakness. Then couldn't read Narcissa's mind and protect his own at the same time.
@abbigailclark1156
@abbigailclark1156 Жыл бұрын
I think that when Voldemort is unconscious and he is at the station he gets spooked. He feels that something is off, which is actually the horcrux in Harry dying. Then he is panicked but so excited that he overlooks the fact that Harry could actually be alive. He has Narcissa check for life just because she’s standing close to him and available. His emotions are running high and Narcissa has the a good ability to lie, and since Voldemort isn’t totally there, he doesn’t notice. Then, later he feels Harry’s presence again, but doesn’t want to embarrass himself in front of his followers. That’s why he waits. Agree with you about the battle after this.
@lottiewright7674
@lottiewright7674 Жыл бұрын
Good theory! 😊👍However I don’t think Voldemort would have felt anything at all after he “kills” Harry because the only reason he can feel him was because of the horcrux inside harry , which was now destroyed
@abbigailclark1156
@abbigailclark1156 Жыл бұрын
@@lottiewright7674 that’s a good point. Maybe it was a gut feeling then? Or once most of his senses returned, he thought back to Narcissa’s body language and decided she was lying. However he couldn’t act on it in hindsight without admitting he lie detection skills were fallible, so he chooses to strike down Harry in front of the students.
@Hailey_Robinson33
@Hailey_Robinson33 Жыл бұрын
Actually… Narcissa name is literally narcissistic and… I’m pretty sure lying is a thing they do
@RKIJSITFAHCWGOR
@RKIJSITFAHCWGOR Жыл бұрын
its a good theory, but not true. the real reason is voldemort destroyed the horcrux within harry, therefore the connection between them was no longer there and he felt that change, that something was different. thats what convinced him that harry must be dead and thats why he believed narcissa so easily.
@1mol831
@1mol831 Жыл бұрын
@@abbigailclark1156he would probably kill Narcissa and Draco if he manages to kill Harry. However he failed, so her decision has paid off.
@dmidkif
@dmidkif Жыл бұрын
My headcanon is that Snape’s success with Occlumency was rooted in his love for Lily. From Harry’s perspective, he is only able to master Occlumency when he focused on love for another (be it Sirius or Dobby). My guess is that this is an area of Snape’s mind that Voldemort couldn’t even bear to investigate. The reason why Snape was such a bad Occlumency teacher is that there is no way that Snape would open up his true strategy to Harry, the boy who looked like his nemesis but had the eyes of the woman he loved-there were just far too many layers of pain there.
@ersatzsugar3385
@ersatzsugar3385 Жыл бұрын
The mother theory is poetic and probably correct but really, Vol has been living in Narcissa's house for a while now. She's had a lot of practice lying to him. "No, of course we don't mind all the dead goblins!" "I didn't like that chandelier anyway." "Thank you for taking my husband's wand, he needed to be taken down a peg." And Vol asks her to check because she's been fetching his tea and rats every day. "Two sugars, of course my lord!"
@NinJestre
@NinJestre Жыл бұрын
It's not "a mother's love," Dumbledore doesn't say that. He says it was "love." The reason Voldemort can't tell that she is lying is the same reason that none of the Death Eaters' spells work after the incident in the woods, the very same reason Crucio doesn't cause Harry pain. Harry, in his loving sacrifice, was able to cast the same or a similar spell on everyone at Hogwarts that night. Every student, teacher, & civilian was protected from Voldemort & his ilk the moment, in his hubris, that Voldemort repeated the same mistake that opens the books. He tried to kill an unarmed person, willing to sacrifice themselves to defend the people they love
@RKIJSITFAHCWGOR
@RKIJSITFAHCWGOR Жыл бұрын
its a good theory, but not true. the real reason is voldemort destroyed the horcrux within harry, therefore the connection between them was no longer there and he felt that change, that something was different. thats what convinced him that harry must be dead and thats why he believed narcissa so easily.
@LunnarisLP
@LunnarisLP Жыл бұрын
@@RKIJSITFAHCWGOR While that is true I think even Harry believed he wouldnt survive the Night and die alongside the final horcrux inside him. But I agree that Voldemord for many reasons, one of them simply wanting to not wanting to accept that Harry could survive the curse a second time, really wanted to believe that Harry was dead in the first place. It's easy to lie to someone if you are telling them what they want to hear.
@RKIJSITFAHCWGOR
@RKIJSITFAHCWGOR Жыл бұрын
@@LunnarisLP True
@destinycole
@destinycole 10 ай бұрын
spin off for the Fan Fic, The Time Voldemort residing in my house, the truth by Narcissa Malfoy although many wives living in a volitile relationship, I am not saying Lucius beat her, but I think she just learned to be the good wife, it pleased her because she could reside in luxury and power and she was a bit of a snob. I laugh because I adored Jason and wanted to be Narcissa, hence my feelings for Draco and Slytherin House. Of course Helen was brilliant as Narcissa and Helena was awesome as Bellatrix, but then there was Raife class actor. Jason I'll just leave a no comment for him, sigh.
@solareagle1802
@solareagle1802 Жыл бұрын
I love the idea that the Death Eaters find out that Harry is alive, and are so terrified that they immediately begin running away, just under the assumption that he, Harry, simply can't die.
@GODOFAWSOMENESS1
@GODOFAWSOMENESS1 Жыл бұрын
That thought does make sense. Harry was hit by the same unblockable instakill spell with the second time being cast from the most powerful wand in the world and survived twice and blocked it once.
@krealle
@krealle Жыл бұрын
Iirc: Once as a baby Once in the duel in the cemetery (wand law) Once in the forest (horocrux or wand law?) ... And later at Hogwarts It's not a wild assumption
@WardenWolf
@WardenWolf 8 ай бұрын
@@krealleWand law, primarily, I think. The Elder Wand won't kill its true master, therefore the Avada Kedavra killed the horcrux instead. From what I can gather about the Elder Wand, while it can be stolen, it can't be claimed without either defeating its true master or its true master's natural passing while in the possession of someone else. Supposedly if the true master were to die naturally with the Elder Wand, its power would be broken.
@alexsynthesis
@alexsynthesis Ай бұрын
If you saw someone get shot in the face with a 12 gauge and you saw them get up unharmed you’d be terrified too lol
@AnnaYoungStories
@AnnaYoungStories Жыл бұрын
Also, also, Voldy cannot fathom a situation in which he loses. So, the mothers love thing wins everytime. Because no matter how many times love wins, he can't see it coming. He can't fathom someone loving anyone else, and he can't imagine himself losing.
@kiminimuchu__
@kiminimuchu__ Жыл бұрын
Nah, I don't think he noticed Narcisa was lying at all, he was simply so arrogant and sure of himself (and slightly weakened at that moment), that he truly believe no one could possibly be able to lie to him, even though several characters know occlumency and are shown to be capable of doing it. That's the whole reason Voldemort kept failing, his arrogancy. His belief that no one is good enough to possibly beat him at something makes him careless and unprepared when someone does, like Lily, Harry, Narcissa, and Snape.
@ThreadBomb
@ThreadBomb Жыл бұрын
He believed her because he wanted to believe her.
@staticradio724
@staticradio724 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I think it was pretty well-established that Voldemort's biggest flaw was his pride.
@heatherhernandez4304
@heatherhernandez4304 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think it’s this because people are actually lying to him ALL THE TIME. Snape constantly does it, Lucius does it, and possibly even Bellatrix who is known to be a good Occlumens. And Voldemort wasn’t checking her bc he was checking Harry. But again his pride told him he got to Harry bc he was a good legilimens not bc of the horcrux. So he assumed his inability to read Harry was bc he’s dead.
@lukeroberson2115
@lukeroberson2115 Жыл бұрын
Narcissa being an Occlumens actually makes sense. She could've been the one who taught Draco.
@AuthorZaraHoffman
@AuthorZaraHoffman Жыл бұрын
Was it not in the books that Snape taught him? Or Bellatrix?
@Angelo-uw9eo
@Angelo-uw9eo Жыл бұрын
​@@AuthorZaraHoffmani think draco said it ws bellatrix
@AuthorZaraHoffman
@AuthorZaraHoffman Жыл бұрын
@@Angelo-uw9eothank you. Couldn’t fully remember
@lukeroberson2115
@lukeroberson2115 Жыл бұрын
@@AuthorZaraHoffman Snape guesses that Bellatrix taught him it, but it could've easily been his mom.
@saanvitammana271
@saanvitammana271 Жыл бұрын
Snape guessed that Bellatrix was the one who taught him
@coolnerdlll6053
@coolnerdlll6053 Жыл бұрын
On a base level, this entire series is really a story about motherly love, whether it's Lily, Molly, Narcissa or even Petunia. EDIT: Okay, I take back Merope, but I stand by what I said otherwise.
@Other_Jeremy
@Other_Jeremy Жыл бұрын
Not just motherly love, but a commentary on love in general. We're shown the power of love, both good and bad. Snapes love for Lily, while important to Harry's story, caused Snape to live a cursed life. Lockharts love for himself made him a coward who only looks out for himself.
@angelm.bouchard3722
@angelm.bouchard3722 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, love in general, and specifically a mother’s love. ❤
@kbeadle23
@kbeadle23 Жыл бұрын
More like a old guy grooming a kid to die imo
@kiminimuchu__
@kiminimuchu__ Жыл бұрын
I would never say Merope sacrificed her life to give birth to her son. She quite literally gave up having any will to live when Tom left. It's why Harry feels appalled when he hears about it. The way Dumbledore presented it, she literally stopped caring for herself and trying to make it after Tom left, she didn't care about being healthy for the baby in the slightest. It was presented, and Harry understood it, as abandonment.
@mitchsmith7472
@mitchsmith7472 Жыл бұрын
Not a story about motherly love. A story where motherly love is the strongest magic.
@TRDPaul
@TRDPaul Жыл бұрын
Narcissa realises Harry has not only survived being hit by the killing curse twice but also can now apparently take the torture curse in his stride without showing the slightest pain and thinks now would be a really good time to switch up her allegiance since this kid is clearly unstoppable Snape lies very effectively to Voldemort for literally years, Narcissa might not be Snape level at occlumency but we know that Bellatrix is incredibly good at it so it's no stretch at all to think she could pass off one lie that Voldemort really wants to believe Of course Voldemort CLAIMS it's impossible to lie to him, of course he would say that, it doesn't make it true. Narcissa is definitely a more magically capable individual than Wormtail or literal muggle Frank
@swiftshadowfax6075
@swiftshadowfax6075 Жыл бұрын
I think Voldemort probably did enough checking to sense joy and relief from Narcissa, then assumed the only reason for that would be if Harry were dead. That it was joy and relief for him and the deatheaters. The possibility that it was relief for Draco never crossed his mind.
@KristinaIrwin504
@KristinaIrwin504 Жыл бұрын
I agree. He doesn't understand love.
@mtnfraggle
@mtnfraggle Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was going to say. 😁👍
@flavorcontextualized6985
@flavorcontextualized6985 4 ай бұрын
I think your take on how the magic actually works and the idea that surface emotions misinterpreted would lead to the surety of a man who refuses to accept failure.
@katholmes7112
@katholmes7112 Жыл бұрын
Narcissa is the only Black sister to come out of this mess with her family intact. Bella dead and no kids despite what Cursed Child says, Andromeda lost her husband, daughter and son in law left with only her grandson. Narcissa's actions saved her son and kept her husband out of going back to Azkaban. She got to keep her entire family, not bad for the most underestimated member of the Black family.
@kiminimuchu__
@kiminimuchu__ Жыл бұрын
Well, not her entire family, she lost her sister...
@kandipiatkowski8589
@kandipiatkowski8589 Жыл бұрын
I also think that she left Lucius after this, for putting her and Draco in so much danger by being a death eater. In the movie (which may or not be accurate) we see her an Draco disapparate leaving Lucius behind.
@hathawyn
@hathawyn Жыл бұрын
I can't think about Narcissa anymore without being sad about Helen McCrory. Such a fantastic actress. Cancer sucks.
@atomicmatrix9400
@atomicmatrix9400 Жыл бұрын
I think this shows how people loyal to the dark lord can show mercy. My opinion on narcissa lying to Voldemort is just something any mother would go if they had info if their son was alive
@kiminimuchu__
@kiminimuchu__ Жыл бұрын
Yep. If there's one thing that can be said for the Malfoys, is that they truly loved each other. On book six, Draco was as desperate about Voldemort potentially killing his parents as he was about his own life, and only starts listening to Dumbledore when he assures Draco they can protect his mother too. And Lucius and Narcisa literally spent the entire last battle just worrying about Draco and wanting to find him, they basically didn't do anything.
@jplayzow
@jplayzow Жыл бұрын
​@@kiminimuchu__I find it very realistic to see parents end up doing the wrong things in pursuit of what they believe to be right as well
@meganesenpai
@meganesenpai Жыл бұрын
I don't think Narcissa is really loyal to Voldy. It's her husband that is scared and loyal so she can only follow.
@ThreadBomb
@ThreadBomb Жыл бұрын
But what if Harry had said Draco was dead? Would Narcissa have gone full evil?
@1mol831
@1mol831 Жыл бұрын
@@ThreadBombmaybe she would prefer him dead then
@jackstrawful
@jackstrawful Жыл бұрын
I've always considered it to be her gaining the knowledge of Draco's survival from Harry that gives her the strength, in that moment, to pull it off. If she hadn't been riding high on that surge of hope and determination, I don't think she could have done it. And, of course, having the discipline of mind to contain that surge within herself was also essential.
@mel_ooo
@mel_ooo Жыл бұрын
narcissa always intrigued me, i wish the malfoy family would've gotten more spotlight and background story in the books, they always felt like the dark mirror image to the potters. the parents very prevalent on each side of the war, one son who was chosen for an important role because of his parents, the golden boy and the prince of slytherin, the mother risking her life to protect her son... i just wish the malfoy's were a bit more fleshed out
@Miss_Camel
@Miss_Camel Жыл бұрын
There is a whole entire world of fan fiction waiting for you!
@mel_ooo
@mel_ooo Жыл бұрын
@@Miss_Camel i do in fact read hp fanfics for stuff like that hhh but if someone wants to recommend something.. 👀
@Miss_Camel
@Miss_Camel Жыл бұрын
@@mel_ooo I’m so sorry, sweet one, but it seems like you want a genuine continuation of story that comes from a wholesome curiosity….I can’t name 1 fanfic that doesn’t have hashtags like “lemon” or “dead dove do not eat”. lol I’m sorry!
@mel_ooo
@mel_ooo Жыл бұрын
@@Miss_Camel if they're like Really good feel free to recommend them anyway i can handle it hhhh and if you don't want to recommend any of them that's fine as well 🥰
@Heart_Beat_
@Heart_Beat_ Жыл бұрын
In my own opinion i think the actual answer is Voldemort can not fathom that somebody he has so much control over (via dangling dracos life over their heads) would lie to them. He cant fathom that once again, someone loves someone else MORE than they fear him, hence him not reading her mind.
@bradleyrossbach3875
@bradleyrossbach3875 Жыл бұрын
The idea of comparing the limbo to being a ghost, plus having the dementor's kiss, and then some, made me wonder what would happen if a dementor attacked a ghost, and/or the reasons they wouldn't
@lottiewright7674
@lottiewright7674 Жыл бұрын
Prehaps they only feed on live souls? But that still doesn’t make sense cause they seem to feed off happiness . Really not sure, this is a good question, that I’m sure a lot of us would like to see them cover☺️😅😇
@vincentmarcellino7183
@vincentmarcellino7183 Жыл бұрын
I'd say it's a combination of a mother's love and Tom's arrogance. Mother's love for preventing Tom from being able to read Narcissa's deceit and Tom's arrogance for not actually checking himself just to be sure
@Nevermore26
@Nevermore26 Жыл бұрын
I never even questioned that her love for Draco was why she was able to lie to him. That was my answer when I saw the title of this video.
@Caleb17-ym6pq
@Caleb17-ym6pq Жыл бұрын
I think #2 is the most likely sceneario. I think Voldermort just believed Narcissa at-face-value and didn't bother 'checking' if she was telling the truth.
@johnpotts8308
@johnpotts8308 Жыл бұрын
My thought too. Voldy wants to believe Harry was dead and "knows" none of his followers would betray him, so hubris prevented him from actually checking Narcissa was telling the truth. He certainly wouldn't be the first dictator to succumb to hubris!
@Mr.Kerr-cade
@Mr.Kerr-cade Жыл бұрын
Probably true. She's an interesting character which is why I made a song about her on my KZbin channel.
@maxxiong
@maxxiong Жыл бұрын
Here's a 5th possible explanation: Voldemort fails to read Narcissa's mine for the same reason he fails to silence the crowd (i.e. because Harry died for everyone)
@tracesosebee5485
@tracesosebee5485 Жыл бұрын
I picture the moment when Narcissa lies to Voldemort as similar to when Harry is able to shut out Voldemort after Dobby's death. With the powerful love Narcissa was feeling upon hearing that Draco was alive, she was able to compartmentalize her fear of Voldemort, to shut away those parts of her mind (using Occlumency of course) and to tell a bold faced lie to Voldemort, and when he tried to sense her emotions and interpret them, he would have felt only certainty. As Snape says, the mind is not a book to be opened and perused at one's leisure. Legilimancy is the art of sensing thoughts and emotions and interpreting them correctly. Therefore, Voldemort would interpret Narcissa's certainty as certainty that Harry Potter was dead and they had won, instead of what it truly was: Certainty that her son was alive and that she was taking him far far away. (I like this interpretation because it's also funny to imagine how little she cares for her husband, cause in that last shot, we see her guiding Draco by the hand and Lucius is left to catch up, which is funny to me)
@magic8ball1982
@magic8ball1982 Жыл бұрын
Another theory: Since Harry's sacrifice seemed to protect everyone from Voldemort's spells, it may have also prevented Voldemort from using Legilimency against Narcissa.
@yessicajessica0
@yessicajessica0 Жыл бұрын
I like the theory that Voldemort knew, you could even read into the fact he didn't feel pain from crucio instead as Voldemort intending for Harry not to react in pain by putting no intent behind it.
@merrillt8387
@merrillt8387 Жыл бұрын
Ooo that makes sense too! I’ve always had a couple theories
@Danny-hq7ix
@Danny-hq7ix 6 ай бұрын
Or perhaps there was no pain because Harry was the true master of the elder wand so it would not do the spell properly against him.
@brandibastian4193
@brandibastian4193 Жыл бұрын
I've actually seen posts from various Harry Potter pages on Facebook, like usually around mother's Day that talk about the mother's love from each of those three women. Lily died for her kid. Molly killed for her kid and our sister lied for her kid
@longarmsgiraffe0955
@longarmsgiraffe0955 Жыл бұрын
Makes sense. I'm not a mother, but I am a father. And I had no freaking idea that a love like this existed. I have another one on the way and it blows my mind that my heart is going to expand that much AGAIN. A parents love for a child is truly undefinable.
@movinitwithmel4631
@movinitwithmel4631 Жыл бұрын
Congrats!!❤
@thoughtfulwatcher
@thoughtfulwatcher 7 ай бұрын
People sometime forget James' love. He died trying to buy his wife enough time to get their child away. I have no doubt had things been different and Lily went first (maybe she was where Voldy broke in or had her wand next to her) James would have bodily shielded his son. Not taking anything away from the awesome moms. But there were some awesome dads in the mix, too.
@taliav7029
@taliav7029 Жыл бұрын
Love how most of the time you manage to get Voldy’s laugh in you Harry Potter videos. 😁😂🤣 heee-he-heeee
@quinesan
@quinesan Жыл бұрын
14:55 In the 3rd reason when you mention his army scattering immediately. I imagined them litterally running away and the thought was hilarious 😂
@felicityanne979
@felicityanne979 Жыл бұрын
One of voldys biggest downfalls is his own arrogance. He never even questioned Narcissa's call. He believes himself so powerful that 1. He can't be lied to. 2. That his magic is so powerful harry couldnt have survived again. 3. That he had overcome every hurdle to defeat harry yet he actually just solidified harrys victory.
@kduncanski
@kduncanski Жыл бұрын
I think Fred and George were the most powerful wizards in Harry Potter. They were capable of transfiguration at age 7 (change a teddy bear into a spider), they were about to complete a bonding for an unbreakable oath at about the same age, their fireworks couldn't be contained and their swamp couldn't be removed. Add those items to the fact that they must be the best potion makers to create all the snackboxes.
@CrazyMuggleGirl
@CrazyMuggleGirl Жыл бұрын
Also they throw the best shade: “Specky git” Harry Potter 😂
@Serothil_and_stuff
@Serothil_and_stuff Жыл бұрын
Flitwick immediately removed it it only leaving a small patch as a memorial once Umbridge was gone.
@Kilthan2050
@Kilthan2050 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@Serothil_and_stuffbut consider that they were so good at making their products the ministry started buying them for their staff, shield hats and coats and such. And it fits that they’d be really powerful. It reinforces the idea that a powerful wizard doesn’t have to seek power. Molly is powerful and just wants to be a good wife and mother. Arthur is powerful AND knowledgeable about magical artifacts, but would rather play with muggle trinkets. Bill chose curse breaking and Charlie works with Dragobs. Ginny is good enough to impress slughorn with one spell. Ron learns to speak parsletobgue and is Harry’s right hand through everything. Percy was able to complete the course load Hermione couldn’t. All of the Weasleys are powerful.
@Hive__
@Hive__ Жыл бұрын
What I always thought about was: Would occlumency might work in another way as well, which makes you better than you are? Example: Narzissa saying Harry's dead, while actually thinking about James Potter, which is the truth, and maybe just thinking: Potter's dead. So basically just marginally shifting the goalposts, basically. Would make sense with Snape, too, imo
@shannonsage4486
@shannonsage4486 Жыл бұрын
“You’ll never know love or friendship … and I feel sorry for you”. He never learns.
@TalonSky
@TalonSky Жыл бұрын
That wasn't Voldy prime in King's Cross, that was the shard of his soul that had been dwelling in Harry. Dumbledore is pretty clear on that. Voldy prime getting knocked down was just because one of his 'Horcruxes' was destroyed, which we know he can physically feel. The one in Harry maybe had a greater oomph because he was running out of Horcruxes. He was still swooning, and either couldn't or didn't think to read her mind because of that.
@cloudwatcher608
@cloudwatcher608 Жыл бұрын
Voldemort always underestimated the power of love so he had no reason to expect Narcissa would lie and no reason to use Legilimency on her
@kataw0404
@kataw0404 Жыл бұрын
I just assumed it was a combo of things. 1, Voldy was still pretty disoriented and didn't want to use his mind reading powers to dip into Harry's mind himself so he sent Narcissa to check 2, he arrogantly assumed that Narcissa was completely under his thumb and would never ever lie to him. He's had control of her family and home for over a year by then. He wouldn't need to use his mind reading on her 3, maybe he didn't even want to try for the same reason he stayed out of Harry's mind, Narcissa's abundant love for her family could make it uncomfortable for him to look into.
@CarrotsKing
@CarrotsKing Жыл бұрын
I think maybe it could be a combination of these theories. Narcissa being a Black could have some knowledge of occlumency also the love for her son she is feeling at that moment could repel Voldy out of her mind because he can't stand it, Voldemort is clearly weakened by destroying yet another piece of his soul and he definitely doesn't appreciate the power of motherly love. As to him knowing Harry is alive and ignoring it, I think it might be possible but after he crucios Harry it would just make him think he is actually dead.
@Acuas
@Acuas Жыл бұрын
I also think he could be so sure of himself and that she was so scared of him that would never dare to lie to him, that he didn't even use the magic to know if she was lieing
@wrestlersmith97
@wrestlersmith97 Жыл бұрын
Personally, its option 3 with the added "cruxio was to test whether Narcissa was wrong or lying, and he isnt surprised later because its only cofirming her betrayal". Had he won, i shudder to think of Narcissa's fate.
@timpancakes2011
@timpancakes2011 Жыл бұрын
Watching this video, I had a thought: what if voldemort had become a ghost? I feel like he was so afraid of death that there would be a sweet irony in him becoming a ghost for eternity. And I just imagine all the teachers and students referring to him as Tom. That would be agony for him!
@claytonemoore
@claytonemoore Жыл бұрын
I absolutely loooove this theory. Narcissa instantly became one of my favorite characters when I first read this scene. And then their casting and how beautiful Helen McRory was in that role… I always loved this moment so much. And this perspective on HOW it happened just compounds that. Ugh, it makes me so happy.
@Prodrummer1603
@Prodrummer1603 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the 4th explanation as well. It might just be that "Love" is part of the "Ancient Magic", you learn in "Hogwarts Legacy". Very powerful magic, that is much stronger than traditional magic. It could also explain why Snape was able to lie to Voldemort all the time. It was the combination of being great in occlumency and the fact that Snape only acted out of love for Lilly.
@TheGypsyVanners
@TheGypsyVanners Жыл бұрын
OMG you had to have been working on this - but right after watching the video about Molly - I was asking you guys - what about the motherly love of Narcissa! And here it is!
@arinerm1331
@arinerm1331 Жыл бұрын
I do not often comment before watching, but on this one I will. Narcissa Malfoy was able to lie to Voldemort -- who is the most powerful Legilimens of his time -- the same way Severus Snape did it. The lie was hidden in a cloak of love, which was impenetrable to Voldemort. It is the "power he knows not."
@grec.
@grec. Жыл бұрын
I think many things hapoened at once in that moment. 1. Voldemort was knocked out by his own Avada Kedrabra (again, aimed at Harry) and probably got up confused and weakened, therefore his legimancy abilities were hugely affected. 2. His connection to Harry was lost becase the Horcrux inside him was destroyed by the curse. 3. Voldemort (unknowing of the connection being an unintended Horcrux) probably perceived the loss of that connection with Harry as an obvious death. 4. Voldemort most likeky sent Narcissa to check on Harry to have humiliate the entire Malfoy family. 5. Narcisa was possibly a very good occlumance and used her love for Draco as a motivator to potentiate her abilities.
@phoenixliger948
@phoenixliger948 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a story where the two remaining sisters make up and find a common cause
@Roozyj
@Roozyj Жыл бұрын
Thematically, the explaination about a mother's love fits best, but I think the explaination about Voldemort knowing and ignoring it is more likely when it comes to realism
@taberquigley
@taberquigley Жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered why snake doesn’t get “in trouble” with Voldy because he would see that his eyes are “blank” I think it mentions that word in the shrieking shack. It would seem to me that Voldy would realize Snape is hiding his thoughts from being read, which would be a no no around the Big Bad Guy.
@lighthouseraven
@lighthouseraven 3 ай бұрын
With the third option, he also could have assumed she was lying by assuming she didn’t really check.
@Silver_Girl178
@Silver_Girl178 Жыл бұрын
Voldemort was probably having his near-death experience back at Wool's Orphanage, not at King's Cross. But he probably did see/hear Harry and Dumbledore there, as angelic figures that wouldn't help him, or just as the crying of the other children, that he never could stand.
@joshuawoodson6620
@joshuawoodson6620 Жыл бұрын
Even without watching the video I'm gonna guess it's due to a mother's love. That powerful old magic that voldemort doesn't recognize in any way.
@austinfreyrikrw6651
@austinfreyrikrw6651 Жыл бұрын
I think we should apply Occum's razor here and choose the most simple explanation: Narcissa is a very powerful occlumens. Though obviously that would have made a much shorter video 😛 Btw, I don't think love is a good explanation as it only provides the reason (or motivation), i.e., the why, but not the mechanism of how Narcissa did foul Voldemort.
@AndrewJamesGordon
@AndrewJamesGordon Жыл бұрын
I just find it hilarious that every time Ben says Occlumency, the Closed Captions say Aquaman scene 😂😂
@j.a.shawkins7640
@j.a.shawkins7640 Жыл бұрын
My personal thoughts have always been that Voldemort's arrogance is TRULY on parr with Gildroy, and he just can't imagine being wrong or failing. On top of the can't understand love. (Or desperation, really, cause like, let's call it what it is: Narcissa's move to lie to him, while impressive and ultimately successful, is one thousand percent sunk in a pit of desperation. You KNOW she' thinking about how badly this could backfire: the man has stolen her home for the last year or so, abused her, her husband, and her son, plus punished numerous others and murdered. Like, she's not without knowledge here, and that desperate knowledge to protect her son, and what may have happened to her were she caught out, may have also protected her and her secret.)
@LeoChaseTheMythMaster
@LeoChaseTheMythMaster Жыл бұрын
Options 1 and 4 are my favourites. Narcissa is underrated (not that I think she should be SUPER important).
@IanHsieh
@IanHsieh Жыл бұрын
I believe that Voldemort's narcissism is just lying to him all the time and he could never realize that. Narcissa is just a personification of his narcissism.
@nerdynanny
@nerdynanny Жыл бұрын
I knew the answer back when I read the books-- it was her motherly love for Draco. Love is more powerful in HP canon than pretty much anything. It's the McGuffin-- especially when you consider Voldemort is incapable of it as he's the result of a love potion. Love is the one enemy even Lord Voldemort cannot hope to conquer.
@corgi42069
@corgi42069 Жыл бұрын
My headcanon is that when Dumbledore finished talking to Harry and Harry woke up, he had a moment to turn to Voldy and say simply, "Oh, Tom..." In a disappointed voice before the scene fades and Voldy wakes as well.
@ArcaneEther
@ArcaneEther Жыл бұрын
There is a much easier explanation: Retcon. Until Fantastic Beasts introduced Queenie, Legilimense was a Spell that needed to be Cast with a Wand. Queenie changed it into more of a natural talent that activates automatically, like Tonks's Metamorphmagus. This is perfectly evident by the fact that Snape has to use his Wand to Cast Legilimense on Harry for their lessons. Going by that logic, since Voldemort did not point his Wand at Narcissa with the intent of Casting Legilimense on her, he would not have been able to read her mind.
@dr.e.6555
@dr.e.6555 Жыл бұрын
What i always thought was that voldemort was just happy and accepted to hear he is dead, never checked to make sure she didnt lie. Basically option 4. Another thing is that he was weakened when he asked, he couldnt perform oclumentie. Also, he could have checked there and then with a crucio.
@crazyfrytka
@crazyfrytka Жыл бұрын
I'm amazed you didn't connect those 3 mothers to Hollows. 😂 Like, it writes itself: - Lily was taken back from death by the Stone, - Molly won duel with Bellatrix like an owner of the Wand would do, - Narcissa shielded Harry from death like a Cloak. Guys, come on, it was given to you on a silver plate. :D Mother's love overcoming the Death, being personifications of Hollows. I'd dare to say: It was PRETTTTY OBVIOUS.
@littlestar7458
@littlestar7458 Жыл бұрын
THIS... is a plausible theory.👏👏
@minionarrow248
@minionarrow248 Жыл бұрын
Also remember that Snape told Harry that ligitimency is not mind reading; it's more like understanding emotions and interpreting their meaning. Thus, as the arrogant Voldemort believes that Narcissa is a loyal follower (even if she wasn't actually a Death Eater), he would expect her to be thrilled by Harry's death. So what if he simply confused her joy? Her emotions would have been relief and happiness at hearing Draco is still alive. What if Voldemort just took that as relief and happiness that Harry is finally dead?
@Galer_777
@Galer_777 Жыл бұрын
What if idea so at a point in the story you could have all the death eaters defect minus belatrix and see how the story would go with all of them helping out and having mabye partly good malfoys.( I would love to see this as a video)
@wrestlersmith97
@wrestlersmith97 Жыл бұрын
Snape keeps vole mole from reading his mind by using Lilly's death as a focal point. Not in that it bothers volley mall, but in that it let's him focus on why he changed sides while keeping the face of mourning. Balded wart is so self assured that he thinks he's broken sevvy and doesn't "waste time" prodding as long as snapple plays his part.
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Жыл бұрын
15:57 Called it! Dumbledore was right about love! It truly is Tom's bane!
@wrestlersmith97
@wrestlersmith97 Жыл бұрын
WAIT WHAT IF SNAPE IS HOW HE IS AT HOGWARTS TO PROTECT AGAINST TOM'S PEEPING?! Even if Tommy Jr gets past snape's defenses, snape focuses on every time he's bullied harry. As opposed to if he was teaching datda and Tom peeped on him aiding the enemy. Even Harry's occulomancy lessons; snape can focus on the pain it caused harry, the insults thrown by them both, "does it look like I was helping him? Please, I was reading his mind because the old fool gave me the opportunity to without recourse" "and what did you learn" "he thinks only of quiditch and snogging, my lord. You have nothing to fear"
@philipfinch8943
@philipfinch8943 Жыл бұрын
Haven't watched the video in full yet, but Narcissa was protected by Harry's sacrifice. She was never for Voldemort and Voldemort couldn't see it because of the sacrifice that protected everyone on Harry's side.
@bboops23
@bboops23 Жыл бұрын
The ad read actually had me questioning if other people struggled with finding sunglasses that much. I'm a lifelong glasses wearer with an ideal face shape for glasses. When I wear contacts I have sunglasses and I have never struggled with finding a well fitting pair. I've paid as little as $5 and as much as $120. The only issue I have is that the more expensive the sunglasses, the easier it is for me to break them.
@ASLTheatre
@ASLTheatre Жыл бұрын
I always chalked it up to Voldmort was not in his right mind. Compounded with the fact the Torture curse had no effect lead him to believe Harry was dead. Then when Harry is revealed not to be dead Voldemort just accepted it as if he was fated to always fight the "scrawny twit".
@thatguy7369
@thatguy7369 Жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that the little monster baby in kings cross was the horcrux that was attached to Harry. The elder wand killed Voldemort's horcrux instead of Harry, which is why it didn't kill Voldemort himself in that attempt like it does later at the school, it already killed something so it couldn't also kill the real Voldemort that time. This leave a few questions open though, like why Voldemort was still knocked out during that first attempt, though there are certainly many different things that would be perfectly acceptable explanations for that. Another open question would be why Harry himself ended up in kings cross with Voldemort's horcrux if Harry himself didn't die.
@SerathDarklands
@SerathDarklands Жыл бұрын
I always just assumed it was her 'mother's love' for Draco acting in that same ancient magic way that protected Harry all those years ago.
@bettysaleh468
@bettysaleh468 9 ай бұрын
I agree, he and his followers are dumbfounded by love. Harry’s mom, Ginny’s mom, Draco’s mom, all in mama bear mode, he can’t understand (nor can his followers).
@kitkate44
@kitkate44 Жыл бұрын
I love the 4rth theory ! After all, Tom Washington conceived throught false love, by a corrupted mother.. So a mother's love is something he never knew and never recognized !
@lewiscooper3556
@lewiscooper3556 Жыл бұрын
There's something that always sort of bothered me about Occlumency, which is, can the person attempting to read your mind tell that you're blocking them? Take Snape for example. He had been blocking Voldemort out of his mind for around 18 years or so since he turncoated to the Order. Voldemort believes that Snape is a spy only for the Death Eaters, spying on Dumbledore, but would he never want to check just in case Snape's lying to him? Yeah Snape's blocking him but all Voldemort really needs to know is if Snape's lying, and the fact that he his being blocked from Snape's mind would be enough suspicion to go on, surely? The thing with Narcissa potentially using Occlumency is the same. The fact that Voldemort can't read her mind in that scenario is evidence enough that she's lying right? Someone please tell me if I'm being dumb and this is it but maybe Occlumency just lets you plant other thoughts for people to read that aren't your true thoughts, to throw them off the scent instead of completely blocking them out. I've always taken occlumency to be just straight blocking out but I'm willing to be wrong
@elsiedenton3658
@elsiedenton3658 Жыл бұрын
I suspect that at its simplest occlumency is straight up blocking, and this is perhaps fairly easy to do. For example Dumbledore thought Harry might have a chance of keeping Voldemort out, at least when Voldemort wasn't physically present. Likely we have an example of Draco doing this level of occlumency to keep Snape out of his mind in Half Blood Prince. But it seems that there may be more, I think Snape even alludes to it indirectly in the same scene, when he implies that the very fact he is being blocked by occlumency implies that Draco is trying to hide something from the Dark Lord. This indicates that the Dark Lord must read his followers thoughts on a regular basis. Therefore, since we know Snape can lie to the Dark Lord and does so on a regular basis, there must be more advanced levels of occlumency that he has mastered. Perhaps levels of fake minds that can be built and read to fool a legilimens. Voldemort would even expect Snape to be able to do this, as he is supposed to be able to lie to Dumbledore who is also a legilimens. So Snape is probably so good at occlumency that he can lower his occlumency to make it look like you are reading his thoughts, but these are fake thoughts that he can again lower to reveal his 'real thoughts', but there is probably let another deeper level that he keeps his ultimate goals at. Like SCB said, this sounds exhausting, but this is the level Snape does occlumency at.
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 Жыл бұрын
That’s the difference between the kind of Occlumency that Snape will have to do against Voldemort, and the kind that Harry was supposed to learn. If Harry had learned, Voldemort won’t be like “RUH UH WHY IS POTTER BLOCKING ME DOES HE HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE?!” because they’re sworn enemies. Snape on the other hand, is supposed to be on his side and LET Voldemort read his mind whenever he likes, to confirm that Snape isn’t lying or withholding stuff.
@kateevanspollin6851
@kateevanspollin6851 Жыл бұрын
I don't think there is any one reason. Not every question requires a "or" answer. It's more interesting to me to think of the subtle interplay between the possibilities. I think that Narcissa must be something of an accomplished Occlumens or she would not have survived in the periphery of the Death Eaters so long; she had to be able to hide the Unbreakable Vow from him though Draco's assignment would have been uppermost in mind. While she may not have been powerful enough to block Voldemort if he CHOSE to probe, his arrogance meant it was inconceivable to him that he would fail. But, rattled by his near death experience, he tested her pronouncement with the Crucio. Crucio is meant to inflict pain. It was pointless on a truly 'dead' body - unless that body might not really be dead. Had Harry even twitched, Narcissa would have been killed and Harry attacked en masse. Voldemort's almost determined ignorance of the power of Love, plus the arrogance, means that he cannot conceive that Harry's death was a deliberate sacrifice as an expression of love for fellow wizards; it saves everyone from harm by Voldemort, and that extends to Narcissa. As for her mother's love, that may have strengthened her power of occlumency just as it may have added force to Molly's spells during the duel.
@SpizzyRich
@SpizzyRich Жыл бұрын
9:17 Why would it be his ultimate fate? I was under the impression that what we see there is a piece of his shattered soul, but I thought it was unable to pass on due to the remaining horcruxes. I always thought that, when the last horcrux was destroyed, all the parts of his soul would pass from the world (as well as the limbo of "Kings Cross"), which was what Tom always feared the most.
@AuthorZaraHoffman
@AuthorZaraHoffman Жыл бұрын
The horcruxes were all outside of Voldemort’s resurrected body. That piece of soul inside him would have still been alive even with all the other horcruxes gone
@teramedia7333
@teramedia7333 Жыл бұрын
Yet again, Voldy suffers from his own hubris. Or is it Dunning-Kruger? He _believes_ that he is able to detect any lie because he has detected so many... but he spectacularly fails to detect lies from Snape, Narcissa, and I would surely bet many others.
@samurexatlas7373
@samurexatlas7373 Жыл бұрын
I agree most with the final idea, that Voldemort, once more, was blind to love.
@josephbugeja3208
@josephbugeja3208 Жыл бұрын
She’s able to lie to him because Voldemort was still too weak from losing yet another part of his soul. Who up until the point he hits him with the killing curse has no idea that Harry Himself was a Horcrux.
@Bryan-gy2zu
@Bryan-gy2zu Жыл бұрын
I think SCB has unlocked a very intriguing What If? with this episode. What if the final battle had gone differently and Voldemort survived or even won? Would Narcissa go on to take Snape's narrative role and become a double-agent for what's left of the resistance?
@thedragonwarrior5861
@thedragonwarrior5861 Жыл бұрын
I think that would make sense
@velcro8223
@velcro8223 Жыл бұрын
Time and distance matter and Voldemort won't approach Harry's body. Plus Narcissa may have Harry's sacrificial protection as she's lying to keep Voldemort from hurting her son.
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Жыл бұрын
You guys always make my day with your videos!😊😊😊🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@CongaFool
@CongaFool Жыл бұрын
I like the last theory, but you also forget that Voldermort was not the owner of the elder wand & he was losing power as each horcrux was destroyed. Plus Belatrix was his most trusted death eater & Lucius was broken so why would Voldermort not trust Narcissa to tell the truth? With her knowing Harry was still alive, she would know that Voldermort was not as strong as believed.
@BlueAmaia
@BlueAmaia Жыл бұрын
SuperCarlinBrothers you make my day with your vids and i really love them i hope you keep making great vids!
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 Жыл бұрын
It's all about the "Power of Love"! Narcissa loves her family, her son especially. The Power of Love protects her! Additionally, if it is the Occlumency thing. What if thats a secret genetic trait of the Black Family? They all naturally have Occlumency Abilities similar to the Gaunt/Slytherin family has the ability of Parseltongue?
@betelgeuseredstone9082
@betelgeuseredstone9082 Жыл бұрын
The reason why and how Narcissa lied to Voldemort, it’s about her son’s well being. And Narcissa can do anything for her son Draco. The same thing as Lucius, can do anything for his son. Narcissa is very concerned about her son Draco, even though Narcissa is related to Harry Potter. That is why Scorpius and Rose cannot get married. They are cousins through Harry Potter’s family tree.
@AlphaFX-kv4ud
@AlphaFX-kv4ud Жыл бұрын
How is narcissa related to Harry?
@CarrotsKing
@CarrotsKing Жыл бұрын
how is Harry related to Narcissa? I mean related by blood xd She is Sirius' cousin and Sirus is Harry's godfather not his actual blood relative.
@chubby_deity3143
@chubby_deity3143 Жыл бұрын
I mean.....there's a perfectly normal human behavior to explain what happened.....People tend to be more careless the closer they are to "victory", it's a troupe used on many occasions and fits this perfectly....
@Morgyborgyblob
@Morgyborgyblob Жыл бұрын
Draco is not on the same level as Snape or his mother - Snape can tell that he's hiding something. Voldemort has zero suspicion that Snape and Narcissa are hiding anything.
@TrailBlazer5280
@TrailBlazer5280 2 ай бұрын
Dang the idea that he did read her mind is really good. Its really true to life, like in that moment he just thinks she's dumb and mistaken. He's not thinking Harry just nodded his head to her, hes only thinking she said hes dead. And what I love about this analysis is that essentially no matter what angle you look at it boils down to his own arrogance overshadowing realities to sabotage himself.
@shiaras4675
@shiaras4675 Жыл бұрын
I think Narcissa's instincts as a mother showed in this scene in two ways. One was obviously her love for her son, Draco. But, I think there was also the kind of motherly love most mothers feel towards kids the same age as their own. Because, let's face it, if Narcissa was evil and desperate to redeem the Malfoys in Voldemort's eyes AND needing to know her son was alright, she could have waited for Harry to tell her Draco was alive and then stood up to proclaim Harry was still alive. But she didn't. She kept it to herself. Maybe it was a sign of gratitude for answering her question. Or her being unable to witness a boy her son's age get killed twice before her eyes. Or maybe it's even guilt for what happened at the Manor.
@ThreadBomb
@ThreadBomb Жыл бұрын
But what would she have done if Harry had said that Draco was dead?
@syd4787
@syd4787 Жыл бұрын
@@ThreadBomb i like to think that she would be devastated but she would’ve tried to at least “save” Harry to make up for Draco’s death if that makes sense?
@loneerv
@loneerv Жыл бұрын
Let's also not forget the amazing actress who played her. Helen McCrory was so awesome as Narcissa and as Aunt Polly on Peaky Blinders. R.I.P. her work was amazing.
@Naseef99
@Naseef99 Жыл бұрын
What if Voldemort was so arrogant he didn’t think narcissa would ever dare to lie to him so he didn’t even try to legilemense herso he couldn’t know
@ladyrazorsharp
@ladyrazorsharp 9 ай бұрын
That was my take, too. Of course she wouldn't lie, especially about something like Harry's death. He'd gotten what he wanted and he just knew Harry was dead. He wanted to hear Narcissa say it. I'd say "what a piece of work that guy is" but that's the biggest understatement ever!
@darklorddna169
@darklorddna169 Жыл бұрын
You also forgot to mention Snape Love for Lily Potter. Basically saveguard Harry even when Snape was Headmaster at Hogwards
@imsotired40
@imsotired40 Жыл бұрын
But the question remains... Why did he pick Narcissa out of all the rest of them? Especially with his top general Bellatrix right there?
@amberbanuelos7053
@amberbanuelos7053 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered this too. There had to be a dozen Death Eaters around him, why Narcissa? She was literally the only one with motivation to lie.
@mareksroka5629
@mareksroka5629 Жыл бұрын
Actually, I feel this adds credits to the 3rd explanation. This shows that Voldermort actually had reason to believe that Harry might be still alive and sent someone that knew would lie about it, and keep it "secret" from his followers. If Harry WAS alive, he didn't want them to know (but still sent someone that he could read the truth from with legimency).
@Andrew-ey7wr
@Andrew-ey7wr 6 ай бұрын
Plus he hated the Malfoy family … was going to kill Draco if he failed to kill Dumbledore … no reason to trust Narcissa plus he wanted any excuse to kill Lucious … so I hated this scene
@rubygracemoseley8144
@rubygracemoseley8144 Жыл бұрын
Why have I never even thought about the whole Narcissa-getting-away-with-lying-to-Lord-Voldemort-even-though-he-can-literally-read-minds thing? Like…seriously! I have read and then rejoiced over that very part four times! How have I never put that together?!
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