How Narcissa LIED to Voldemort REVEALED! | Harry Potter Film Theory

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Today Ben dives into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to reveal how Narcissa Malfoy lied to Voldemort about Harry being dead without having her mind read!
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[@JessicaClark-lq4gw]

I always assumed the relief Narcissa felt at hearing Draco was alive, moments before pronouncing Harry dead, was misconstrued by Voldemort. Narcissa was tense as she approached Harry. After Harry telling her Draco was alive she was relieved. She had already been asking to go find her son (Voldemort says so) so when he feels the shift in her emotions from being tense and upset to relief he assumed that it was relief Harry was dead and she could go find Draco. He didnt notice her lie because he didnt listen to it. He had already had Harrys death "confirmed" by her emotions so there was no need to pay attention to her words.

[@alexandragrace8164]

Well put

[@pankajtalesara6766]

its not real emotions, they are actors doing acting

[@JessicaClark-lq4gw]

@pankajtalesara6766 i am literally talking about fictional characters in a fictional story and a theory on how a fictional story works when one of the fictional characters can magically read minds. In what way, shape, or form does that make you think i believe any of it is real?

[@kylewilsonriley]

@@JessicaClark-lq4gw Well put again

[@indigoopal8417]

Very observational 🥰

[@loremistressanna]

Narcissa being an Occumens makes 100% sense. With a husband like that, one crazy sister, one "blood traitor" sister. Also, Narcissa definitely airs on the silent-hauty-one who holds her cards close to her chest. Why would she tell anyone she is an occumens? She's not the braggy one in the Malfoy family... It just suites her personality.

[@44EricRH44]

100%

[@jenniferdaniels701]

Yeah, that and being an underestimated mother together. She's "Just a mom" like Molly, can't possibly be a strong witch/ wizard. Her strength came out when protecting her kid/ caring more about the kid's safety than her own when it really mattered.

[@Boppo_Jr]

She's a black however, and I think she and her sister learned at the same time, because bella had taught draco how to do it.

[@Xiassen]

Didn't Snape or someone make a comment to Draco saying "you're mother's been teaching you Occlumency" when trying to cross-examine him?

[@ashleythompson8530]

Draco says it when Snape tries to do Legilimens to learn what Draco is up to. He tells him but to bother trying, that his mom's been teaching him occlumency

[@Hectza]

I like to think that the 3 mothers in the final battle have a tie to the 3 deathly hallows: 1. Lily & Resurrection Stone: Lily still saving Harry after her death 2. Molly & Elder Wand: Molly saving her daughter by battling Bellatrix with her wand 3. Narcissa & Invisibility Cloak: Narcissa having to conceal her thoughts from Voldemort as a result of her care and worry for Draco

[@ColeAndPhoebeForever]

That's a really cool idea and it totally makes sense, awesome!

[@shadeblackwolf1508]

Well caught parallel

[@riversimone9516]

Good theory!

[@indianikolwimbush2268]

This was a powerful comment ! Truly all three mothers acted out of love and that’s what kept their children safe!!! Something only a mother can do! This is what makes a mothers love the most Powerful weapon in the world !!

[@kathleencowley7772]

Good points! 100% agree.

[@tobiasdarkrai1134]

Now that I think about it, maybe the reason Voldemort always underestimates a mother's love is because he never had that experience for himself.

[@Chellebelle121]

Yup

[@Locedamius]

Remember the moment when Harry for the first time was able to lock Voldemort out of his mind? It was when he mourned Dobby. And Harry himself even makes this connection that his mourning (aka love) can counter Voldemort's power. I think it is pretty well established in the story that Narcissa uses this same principle here (though being pretty good at occlumency to begin with probably helps).

[@Boundwithflame23]

I think technically it was the second time. The first time was after Sirius died.

[@gingersnap8543]

@@Boundwithflame23even then he wasn’t able to stop it. What stopped it was when Voldemort tried to actually physically possess Harry, which causes immense pain to Voldemort and causes him to retreat

[@cl8733]

He pushed Voldemort out from possessing him by remembering friendship and love at the end of order of the Phoenix during the Battle in the ministry.

[@gingersnap8543]

@@cl8733 no, not the case at all. It’s the presence of the charm in Harry’s bloodstream that makes it agony for him, just like touching Harry as a child was agony. He cannot exist in the same space as Harry, and that’s also why dumbledore was able to safely tell Harry of the prophecy afterward, because he knew that Voldemort would never attempt to possess or enter his mind intentionally ever again

[@cl8733]

​@@gingersnap8543 I don't think so. That spell is broken at that point, since Voldemort used Harry's blood in his resurrection. I just looked it up and I admit the book is quite unclear in that regard: Voldemort possesses Harry, which is incredibly painful for him. He wants to be dead, and when he thinks that he will be united with Sirius then, making peace with the thought of dying, Voldemort leaves him. Dumbledore only explains that Harry possesses some sort of power Voldemort doesn't have, and usually that's always the power of love. I don't exactly remember how this is handled in the movie, but I think it's some happy memories Harry has which push Voldemort out. He can't be in such a happy place, I guess.

[@solareagle1802]

I love the idea that the Death Eaters find out that Harry is alive, and are so terrified that they immediately begin running away, just under the assumption that he, Harry, simply can't die.

[@GODOFAWSOMENESS1]

That thought does make sense. Harry was hit by the same unblockable instakill spell with the second time being cast from the most powerful wand in the world and survived twice and blocked it once.

[@krealle]

Iirc: Once as a baby Once in the duel in the cemetery (wand law) Once in the forest (horocrux or wand law?) ... And later at Hogwarts It's not a wild assumption

[@WardenWolf]

@@krealleWand law, primarily, I think. The Elder Wand won't kill its true master, therefore the Avada Kedavra killed the horcrux instead. From what I can gather about the Elder Wand, while it can be stolen, it can't be claimed without either defeating its true master or its true master's natural passing while in the possession of someone else. Supposedly if the true master were to die naturally with the Elder Wand, its power would be broken.

[@jacb523]

I never thought the baby Voldemort thing at king's cross was the Voldemort from the forest. I thought it was the part of his soul that he unintentionally lost. The part in his reborn body world be in his own limbo. The king's cross limbo was only for Harry. That was my take on it when reading it.

[@kiminimuchu__]

Exactly. I never read it as Voldemort experiencing the King's Cross "dream" at that moment, that was simply the piece of soul that was inside Harry being left there.

[@christianeedel5160]

Agree. Especially as it‘s all “happening inside (Harry’s) head”. Only the part of Voldemort’s soul that was in Harry is at King’s Cross.

[@kenmrock9334]

It was the holcrux that went to die.

[@heatherann9548]

It was definitely the Horcrux inside Harry that Voldemort destroyed. For proof, Dumbledore tells Harry he can’t help it. Dumbledore’s definitely not the type to give up on people (understatement of the year). He even tells Harry that there’s still hope for Voldemort.

[@FWbaracuss]

Nailed it

[@ersatzsugar3385]

The mother theory is poetic and probably correct but really, Vol has been living in Narcissa's house for a while now. She's had a lot of practice lying to him. "No, of course we don't mind all the dead goblins!" "I didn't like that chandelier anyway." "Thank you for taking my husband's wand, he needed to be taken down a peg." And Vol asks her to check because she's been fetching his tea and rats every day. "Two sugars, of course my lord!"

[@NinJestre]

It's not "a mother's love," Dumbledore doesn't say that. He says it was "love." The reason Voldemort can't tell that she is lying is the same reason that none of the Death Eaters' spells work after the incident in the woods, the very same reason Crucio doesn't cause Harry pain. Harry, in his loving sacrifice, was able to cast the same or a similar spell on everyone at Hogwarts that night. Every student, teacher, & civilian was protected from Voldemort & his ilk the moment, in his hubris, that Voldemort repeated the same mistake that opens the books. He tried to kill an unarmed person, willing to sacrifice themselves to defend the people they love

[@DEEKANDTARA]

its a good theory, but not true. the real reason is voldemort destroyed the horcrux within harry, therefore the connection between them was no longer there and he felt that change, that something was different. thats what convinced him that harry must be dead and thats why he believed narcissa so easily.

[@LunnarisLP]

@@DEEKANDTARA While that is true I think even Harry believed he wouldnt survive the Night and die alongside the final horcrux inside him. But I agree that Voldemord for many reasons, one of them simply wanting to not wanting to accept that Harry could survive the curse a second time, really wanted to believe that Harry was dead in the first place. It's easy to lie to someone if you are telling them what they want to hear.

[@DEEKANDTARA]

@@LunnarisLP True

[@destinycole]

spin off for the Fan Fic, The Time Voldemort residing in my house, the truth by Narcissa Malfoy although many wives living in a volitile relationship, I am not saying Lucius beat her, but I think she just learned to be the good wife, it pleased her because she could reside in luxury and power and she was a bit of a snob. I laugh because I adored Jason and wanted to be Narcissa, hence my feelings for Draco and Slytherin House. Of course Helen was brilliant as Narcissa and Helena was awesome as Bellatrix, but then there was Raife class actor. Jason I'll just leave a no comment for him, sigh.

[@lukeroberson2115]

Narcissa being an Occlumens actually makes sense. She could've been the one who taught Draco.

[@AuthorZaraHoffman]

Was it not in the books that Snape taught him? Or Bellatrix?

[@Angelo-uw9eo]

​@@AuthorZaraHoffmani think draco said it ws bellatrix

[@AuthorZaraHoffman]

@@Angelo-uw9eothank you. Couldn’t fully remember

[@lukeroberson2115]

@@AuthorZaraHoffman Snape guesses that Bellatrix taught him it, but it could've easily been his mom.

[@saanvitammana271]

Snape guessed that Bellatrix was the one who taught him

[@patrickbrown247]

5) Voldy had never been knocked out before and was so afraid that he had a second of doubts. Realized he was doubting. Used Occlumency to shield his own mind from potential intrusions from followers who saw his moment of weakness. Then couldn't read Narcissa's mind and protect his own at the same time.

[@abbigailclark1156]

I think that when Voldemort is unconscious and he is at the station he gets spooked. He feels that something is off, which is actually the horcrux in Harry dying. Then he is panicked but so excited that he overlooks the fact that Harry could actually be alive. He has Narcissa check for life just because she’s standing close to him and available. His emotions are running high and Narcissa has the a good ability to lie, and since Voldemort isn’t totally there, he doesn’t notice. Then, later he feels Harry’s presence again, but doesn’t want to embarrass himself in front of his followers. That’s why he waits. Agree with you about the battle after this.

[@lottiewright7674]

Good theory! 😊👍However I don’t think Voldemort would have felt anything at all after he “kills” Harry because the only reason he can feel him was because of the horcrux inside harry , which was now destroyed

[@abbigailclark1156]

@@lottiewright7674 that’s a good point. Maybe it was a gut feeling then? Or once most of his senses returned, he thought back to Narcissa’s body language and decided she was lying. However he couldn’t act on it in hindsight without admitting he lie detection skills were fallible, so he chooses to strike down Harry in front of the students.

[@Hailey_Robinson33]

Actually… Narcissa name is literally narcissistic and… I’m pretty sure lying is a thing they do

[@DEEKANDTARA]

its a good theory, but not true. the real reason is voldemort destroyed the horcrux within harry, therefore the connection between them was no longer there and he felt that change, that something was different. thats what convinced him that harry must be dead and thats why he believed narcissa so easily.

[@1mol831]

@@abbigailclark1156he would probably kill Narcissa and Draco if he manages to kill Harry. However he failed, so her decision has paid off.

[@dmidkif]

My headcanon is that Snape’s success with Occlumency was rooted in his love for Lily. From Harry’s perspective, he is only able to master Occlumency when he focused on love for another (be it Sirius or Dobby). My guess is that this is an area of Snape’s mind that Voldemort couldn’t even bear to investigate. The reason why Snape was such a bad Occlumency teacher is that there is no way that Snape would open up his true strategy to Harry, the boy who looked like his nemesis but had the eyes of the woman he loved-there were just far too many layers of pain there.

[@kiminimuchu__]

Nah, I don't think he noticed Narcisa was lying at all, he was simply so arrogant and sure of himself (and slightly weakened at that moment), that he truly believe no one could possibly be able to lie to him, even though several characters know occlumency and are shown to be capable of doing it. That's the whole reason Voldemort kept failing, his arrogancy. His belief that no one is good enough to possibly beat him at something makes him careless and unprepared when someone does, like Lily, Harry, Narcissa, and Snape.

[@ThreadBomb]

He believed her because he wanted to believe her.

[@staticradio724]

I agree. I think it was pretty well-established that Voldemort's biggest flaw was his pride.

[@heatherhernandez4304]

Yeah I think it’s this because people are actually lying to him ALL THE TIME. Snape constantly does it, Lucius does it, and possibly even Bellatrix who is known to be a good Occlumens. And Voldemort wasn’t checking her bc he was checking Harry. But again his pride told him he got to Harry bc he was a good legilimens not bc of the horcrux. So he assumed his inability to read Harry was bc he’s dead.

[@atomicmatrix9400]

I think this shows how people loyal to the dark lord can show mercy. My opinion on narcissa lying to Voldemort is just something any mother would go if they had info if their son was alive

[@kiminimuchu__]

Yep. If there's one thing that can be said for the Malfoys, is that they truly loved each other. On book six, Draco was as desperate about Voldemort potentially killing his parents as he was about his own life, and only starts listening to Dumbledore when he assures Draco they can protect his mother too. And Lucius and Narcisa literally spent the entire last battle just worrying about Draco and wanting to find him, they basically didn't do anything.

[@jplayzow]

​@@kiminimuchu__I find it very realistic to see parents end up doing the wrong things in pursuit of what they believe to be right as well

[@meganesenpai]

I don't think Narcissa is really loyal to Voldy. It's her husband that is scared and loyal so she can only follow.

[@ThreadBomb]

But what if Harry had said Draco was dead? Would Narcissa have gone full evil?

[@1mol831]

@@ThreadBombmaybe she would prefer him dead then

[@alexandernovakovic6075]

I think Voldemort probably did enough checking to sense joy and relief from Narcissa, then assumed the only reason for that would be if Harry were dead. That it was joy and relief for him and the deatheaters. The possibility that it was relief for Draco never crossed his mind.

[@fresheyes3209]

I agree. He doesn't understand love.

[@mtnfraggle]

Exactly what I was going to say. 😁👍

[@flavorcontextualized6985]

I think your take on how the magic actually works and the idea that surface emotions misinterpreted would lead to the surety of a man who refuses to accept failure.

[@loremistressanna]

Also, also, Voldy cannot fathom a situation in which he loses. So, the mothers love thing wins everytime. Because no matter how many times love wins, he can't see it coming. He can't fathom someone loving anyone else, and he can't imagine himself losing.

[@coolnerdlll6053]

On a base level, this entire series is really a story about motherly love, whether it's Lily, Molly, Narcissa or even Petunia. EDIT: Okay, I take back Merope, but I stand by what I said otherwise.

[@Other_Jeremy]

Not just motherly love, but a commentary on love in general. We're shown the power of love, both good and bad. Snapes love for Lily, while important to Harry's story, caused Snape to live a cursed life. Lockharts love for himself made him a coward who only looks out for himself.

[@angelm.bouchard3722]

Absolutely, love in general, and specifically a mother’s love. ❤

[@kbeadle23]

More like a old guy grooming a kid to die imo

[@kiminimuchu__]

I would never say Merope sacrificed her life to give birth to her son. She quite literally gave up having any will to live when Tom left. It's why Harry feels appalled when he hears about it. The way Dumbledore presented it, she literally stopped caring for herself and trying to make it after Tom left, she didn't care about being healthy for the baby in the slightest. It was presented, and Harry understood it, as abandonment.

[@mitchsmith7472]

Not a story about motherly love. A story where motherly love is the strongest magic.

[@TRDPaul]

Narcissa realises Harry has not only survived being hit by the killing curse twice but also can now apparently take the torture curse in his stride without showing the slightest pain and thinks now would be a really good time to switch up her allegiance since this kid is clearly unstoppable Snape lies very effectively to Voldemort for literally years, Narcissa might not be Snape level at occlumency but we know that Bellatrix is incredibly good at it so it's no stretch at all to think she could pass off one lie that Voldemort really wants to believe Of course Voldemort CLAIMS it's impossible to lie to him, of course he would say that, it doesn't make it true. Narcissa is definitely a more magically capable individual than Wormtail or literal muggle Frank

[@hathawyn]

I can't think about Narcissa anymore without being sad about Helen McCrory. Such a fantastic actress. Cancer sucks.

[@taliav7029]

Love how most of the time you manage to get Voldy’s laugh in you Harry Potter videos. 😁😂🤣 heee-he-heeee

[@mel_ooo]

narcissa always intrigued me, i wish the malfoy family would've gotten more spotlight and background story in the books, they always felt like the dark mirror image to the potters. the parents very prevalent on each side of the war, one son who was chosen for an important role because of his parents, the golden boy and the prince of slytherin, the mother risking her life to protect her son... i just wish the malfoy's were a bit more fleshed out

[@Miss_Camel]

There is a whole entire world of fan fiction waiting for you!

[@mel_ooo]

@@Miss_Camel i do in fact read hp fanfics for stuff like that hhh but if someone wants to recommend something.. 👀

[@Miss_Camel]

@@mel_ooo I’m so sorry, sweet one, but it seems like you want a genuine continuation of story that comes from a wholesome curiosity….I can’t name 1 fanfic that doesn’t have hashtags like “lemon” or “dead dove do not eat”. lol I’m sorry!

[@mel_ooo]

@@Miss_Camel if they're like Really good feel free to recommend them anyway i can handle it hhhh and if you don't want to recommend any of them that's fine as well 🥰

[@katholmes7112]

Narcissa is the only Black sister to come out of this mess with her family intact. Bella dead and no kids despite what Cursed Child says, Andromeda lost her husband, daughter and son in law left with only her grandson. Narcissa's actions saved her son and kept her husband out of going back to Azkaban. She got to keep her entire family, not bad for the most underestimated member of the Black family.

[@kiminimuchu__]

Well, not her entire family, she lost her sister...

[@kandipiatkowski8589]

I also think that she left Lucius after this, for putting her and Draco in so much danger by being a death eater. In the movie (which may or not be accurate) we see her an Draco disapparate leaving Lucius behind.

[@jackstrawful]

I've always considered it to be her gaining the knowledge of Draco's survival from Harry that gives her the strength, in that moment, to pull it off. If she hadn't been riding high on that surge of hope and determination, I don't think she could have done it. And, of course, having the discipline of mind to contain that surge within herself was also essential.

[@Nevermore26]

I never even questioned that her love for Draco was why she was able to lie to him. That was my answer when I saw the title of this video.

[@vincentmarcellino7183]

I'd say it's a combination of a mother's love and Tom's arrogance. Mother's love for preventing Tom from being able to read Narcissa's deceit and Tom's arrogance for not actually checking himself just to be sure

[@bradleyrossbach3875]

The idea of comparing the limbo to being a ghost, plus having the dementor's kiss, and then some, made me wonder what would happen if a dementor attacked a ghost, and/or the reasons they wouldn't

[@lottiewright7674]

Prehaps they only feed on live souls? But that still doesn’t make sense cause they seem to feed off happiness . Really not sure, this is a good question, that I’m sure a lot of us would like to see them cover☺️😅😇

[@Heart_Beat_]

In my own opinion i think the actual answer is Voldemort can not fathom that somebody he has so much control over (via dangling dracos life over their heads) would lie to them. He cant fathom that once again, someone loves someone else MORE than they fear him, hence him not reading her mind.

[@Caleb17-ym6pq]

I think #2 is the most likely sceneario. I think Voldermort just believed Narcissa at-face-value and didn't bother 'checking' if she was telling the truth.

[@johnpotts8308]

My thought too. Voldy wants to believe Harry was dead and "knows" none of his followers would betray him, so hubris prevented him from actually checking Narcissa was telling the truth. He certainly wouldn't be the first dictator to succumb to hubris!

[@Mr.Kerr-cade]

Probably true. She's an interesting character which is why I made a song about her on my KZbin channel.

[@maxxiong]

Here's a 5th possible explanation: Voldemort fails to read Narcissa's mine for the same reason he fails to silence the crowd (i.e. because Harry died for everyone)

[@yessicajessica0]

I like the theory that Voldemort knew, you could even read into the fact he didn't feel pain from crucio instead as Voldemort intending for Harry not to react in pain by putting no intent behind it.

[@merrillt8387]

Ooo that makes sense too! I’ve always had a couple theories

[@Danny-hq7ix]

Or perhaps there was no pain because Harry was the true master of the elder wand so it would not do the spell properly against him.

[@longarmsgiraffe0955]

Makes sense. I'm not a mother, but I am a father. And I had no freaking idea that a love like this existed. I have another one on the way and it blows my mind that my heart is going to expand that much AGAIN. A parents love for a child is truly undefinable.

[@movinitwithmel4631]

Congrats!!❤

[@thoughtfulwatcher]

People sometime forget James' love. He died trying to buy his wife enough time to get their child away. I have no doubt had things been different and Lily went first (maybe she was where Voldy broke in or had her wand next to her) James would have bodily shielded his son. Not taking anything away from the awesome moms. But there were some awesome dads in the mix, too.

[@tracesosebee5485]

I picture the moment when Narcissa lies to Voldemort as similar to when Harry is able to shut out Voldemort after Dobby's death. With the powerful love Narcissa was feeling upon hearing that Draco was alive, she was able to compartmentalize her fear of Voldemort, to shut away those parts of her mind (using Occlumency of course) and to tell a bold faced lie to Voldemort, and when he tried to sense her emotions and interpret them, he would have felt only certainty. As Snape says, the mind is not a book to be opened and perused at one's leisure. Legilimancy is the art of sensing thoughts and emotions and interpreting them correctly. Therefore, Voldemort would interpret Narcissa's certainty as certainty that Harry Potter was dead and they had won, instead of what it truly was: Certainty that her son was alive and that she was taking him far far away. (I like this interpretation because it's also funny to imagine how little she cares for her husband, cause in that last shot, we see her guiding Draco by the hand and Lucius is left to catch up, which is funny to me)

[@brandibastian4193]

I've actually seen posts from various Harry Potter pages on Facebook, like usually around mother's Day that talk about the mother's love from each of those three women. Lily died for her kid. Molly killed for her kid and our sister lied for her kid

[@shannonsage4486]

“You’ll never know love or friendship … and I feel sorry for you”. He never learns.

[@magic8ball1982]

Another theory: Since Harry's sacrifice seemed to protect everyone from Voldemort's spells, it may have also prevented Voldemort from using Legilimency against Narcissa.

[@quinesan]

14:55 In the 3rd reason when you mention his army scattering immediately. I imagined them litterally running away and the thought was hilarious 😂

[@felicityanne979]

One of voldys biggest downfalls is his own arrogance. He never even questioned Narcissa's call. He believes himself so powerful that 1. He can't be lied to. 2. That his magic is so powerful harry couldnt have survived again. 3. That he had overcome every hurdle to defeat harry yet he actually just solidified harrys victory.

[@wrestlersmith97]

Personally, its option 3 with the added "cruxio was to test whether Narcissa was wrong or lying, and he isnt surprised later because its only cofirming her betrayal". Had he won, i shudder to think of Narcissa's fate.

[@kataw0404]

I just assumed it was a combo of things. 1, Voldy was still pretty disoriented and didn't want to use his mind reading powers to dip into Harry's mind himself so he sent Narcissa to check 2, he arrogantly assumed that Narcissa was completely under his thumb and would never ever lie to him. He's had control of her family and home for over a year by then. He wouldn't need to use his mind reading on her 3, maybe he didn't even want to try for the same reason he stayed out of Harry's mind, Narcissa's abundant love for her family could make it uncomfortable for him to look into.

[@Hive__]

What I always thought about was: Would occlumency might work in another way as well, which makes you better than you are? Example: Narzissa saying Harry's dead, while actually thinking about James Potter, which is the truth, and maybe just thinking: Potter's dead. So basically just marginally shifting the goalposts, basically. Would make sense with Snape, too, imo

[@CarrotsKing]

I think maybe it could be a combination of these theories. Narcissa being a Black could have some knowledge of occlumency also the love for her son she is feeling at that moment could repel Voldy out of her mind because he can't stand it, Voldemort is clearly weakened by destroying yet another piece of his soul and he definitely doesn't appreciate the power of motherly love. As to him knowing Harry is alive and ignoring it, I think it might be possible but after he crucios Harry it would just make him think he is actually dead.

[@Galerboy]

What if idea so at a point in the story you could have all the death eaters defect minus belatrix and see how the story would go with all of them helping out and having mabye partly good malfoys.( I would love to see this as a video)

[@Acuas]

I also think he could be so sure of himself and that she was so scared of him that would never dare to lie to him, that he didn't even use the magic to know if she was lieing

[@cloudwatcher608]

Voldemort always underestimated the power of love so he had no reason to expect Narcissa would lie and no reason to use Legilimency on her

[@TalonSky]

That wasn't Voldy prime in King's Cross, that was the shard of his soul that had been dwelling in Harry. Dumbledore is pretty clear on that. Voldy prime getting knocked down was just because one of his 'Horcruxes' was destroyed, which we know he can physically feel. The one in Harry maybe had a greater oomph because he was running out of Horcruxes. He was still swooning, and either couldn't or didn't think to read her mind because of that.

[@timpancakes2011]

Watching this video, I had a thought: what if voldemort had become a ghost? I feel like he was so afraid of death that there would be a sweet irony in him becoming a ghost for eternity. And I just imagine all the teachers and students referring to him as Tom. That would be agony for him!

[@claytonemoore]

I absolutely loooove this theory. Narcissa instantly became one of my favorite characters when I first read this scene. And then their casting and how beautiful Helen McRory was in that role… I always loved this moment so much. And this perspective on HOW it happened just compounds that. Ugh, it makes me so happy.

[@kduncanski]

I think Fred and George were the most powerful wizards in Harry Potter. They were capable of transfiguration at age 7 (change a teddy bear into a spider), they were about to complete a bonding for an unbreakable oath at about the same age, their fireworks couldn't be contained and their swamp couldn't be removed. Add those items to the fact that they must be the best potion makers to create all the snackboxes.

[@CrazyMuggleGirl]

Also they throw the best shade: “Specky git” Harry Potter 😂

[@Serothil_and_stuff]

Flitwick immediately removed it it only leaving a small patch as a memorial once Umbridge was gone.

[@Kilthan2050]

⁠@@Serothil_and_stuffbut consider that they were so good at making their products the ministry started buying them for their staff, shield hats and coats and such. And it fits that they’d be really powerful. It reinforces the idea that a powerful wizard doesn’t have to seek power. Molly is powerful and just wants to be a good wife and mother. Arthur is powerful AND knowledgeable about magical artifacts, but would rather play with muggle trinkets. Bill chose curse breaking and Charlie works with Dragobs. Ginny is good enough to impress slughorn with one spell. Ron learns to speak parsletobgue and is Harry’s right hand through everything. Percy was able to complete the course load Hermione couldn’t. All of the Weasleys are powerful.

[@IanHsieh]

I believe that Voldemort's narcissism is just lying to him all the time and he could never realize that. Narcissa is just a personification of his narcissism.

[@Prodrummer1603]

I prefer the 4th explanation as well. It might just be that "Love" is part of the "Ancient Magic", you learn in "Hogwarts Legacy". Very powerful magic, that is much stronger than traditional magic. It could also explain why Snape was able to lie to Voldemort all the time. It was the combination of being great in occlumency and the fact that Snape only acted out of love for Lilly.

[@joshuawoodson6620]

Even without watching the video I'm gonna guess it's due to a mother's love. That powerful old magic that voldemort doesn't recognize in any way.

[@phoenixliger948]

I would love to see a story where the two remaining sisters make up and find a common cause

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

You guys always make my day with your videos!😊😊😊🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@TheGypsyVanners]

OMG you had to have been working on this - but right after watching the video about Molly - I was asking you guys - what about the motherly love of Narcissa! And here it is!

[@josephbugeja3208]

She’s able to lie to him because Voldemort was still too weak from losing yet another part of his soul. Who up until the point he hits him with the killing curse has no idea that Harry Himself was a Horcrux.

[@j.a.shawkins7640]

My personal thoughts have always been that Voldemort's arrogance is TRULY on parr with Gildroy, and he just can't imagine being wrong or failing. On top of the can't understand love. (Or desperation, really, cause like, let's call it what it is: Narcissa's move to lie to him, while impressive and ultimately successful, is one thousand percent sunk in a pit of desperation. You KNOW she' thinking about how badly this could backfire: the man has stolen her home for the last year or so, abused her, her husband, and her son, plus punished numerous others and murdered. Like, she's not without knowledge here, and that desperate knowledge to protect her son, and what may have happened to her were she caught out, may have also protected her and her secret.)

[@Silver_Girl178]

Voldemort was probably having his near-death experience back at Wool's Orphanage, not at King's Cross. But he probably did see/hear Harry and Dumbledore there, as angelic figures that wouldn't help him, or just as the crying of the other children, that he never could stand.

[@wrestlersmith97]

Snape keeps vole mole from reading his mind by using Lilly's death as a focal point. Not in that it bothers volley mall, but in that it let's him focus on why he changed sides while keeping the face of mourning. Balded wart is so self assured that he thinks he's broken sevvy and doesn't "waste time" prodding as long as snapple plays his part.

[@Sparrow9612]

Voldemort: "Just as a precaution...INCENDIO!" _cue one extra-crispy Harry_

[@taberquigley]

I’ve always wondered why snake doesn’t get “in trouble” with Voldy because he would see that his eyes are “blank” I think it mentions that word in the shrieking shack. It would seem to me that Voldy would realize Snape is hiding his thoughts from being read, which would be a no no around the Big Bad Guy.

[@BlueAmaia]

SuperCarlinBrothers you make my day with your vids and i really love them i hope you keep making great vids!

[@dr.e.6555]

What i always thought was that voldemort was just happy and accepted to hear he is dead, never checked to make sure she didnt lie. Basically option 4. Another thing is that he was weakened when he asked, he couldnt perform oclumentie. Also, he could have checked there and then with a crucio.

[@ASLTheatre]

I always chalked it up to Voldmort was not in his right mind. Compounded with the fact the Torture curse had no effect lead him to believe Harry was dead. Then when Harry is revealed not to be dead Voldemort just accepted it as if he was fated to always fight the "scrawny twit".

[@Roozyj]

Thematically, the explaination about a mother's love fits best, but I think the explaination about Voldemort knowing and ignoring it is more likely when it comes to realism

[@SerathDarklands]

I always just assumed it was her 'mother's love' for Draco acting in that same ancient magic way that protected Harry all those years ago.

[@bettysaleh468]

I agree, he and his followers are dumbfounded by love. Harry’s mom, Ginny’s mom, Draco’s mom, all in mama bear mode, he can’t understand (nor can his followers).

[@minionarrow248]

Also remember that Snape told Harry that ligitimency is not mind reading; it's more like understanding emotions and interpreting their meaning. Thus, as the arrogant Voldemort believes that Narcissa is a loyal follower (even if she wasn't actually a Death Eater), he would expect her to be thrilled by Harry's death. So what if he simply confused her joy? Her emotions would have been relief and happiness at hearing Draco is still alive. What if Voldemort just took that as relief and happiness that Harry is finally dead?

[@jessicag4132]

Always wondered this myself. Thanks for taking the time to make such a creative answer! Have a happy and safe 4th 🎉

[@ArcaneEther]

There is a much easier explanation: Retcon. Until Fantastic Beasts introduced Queenie, Legilimense was a Spell that needed to be Cast with a Wand. Queenie changed it into more of a natural talent that activates automatically, like Tonks's Metamorphmagus. This is perfectly evident by the fact that Snape has to use his Wand to Cast Legilimense on Harry for their lessons. Going by that logic, since Voldemort did not point his Wand at Narcissa with the intent of Casting Legilimense on her, he would not have been able to read her mind.

[@austinfreyrikrw6651]

I think we should apply Occum's razor here and choose the most simple explanation: Narcissa is a very powerful occlumens. Though obviously that would have made a much shorter video 😛 Btw, I don't think love is a good explanation as it only provides the reason (or motivation), i.e., the why, but not the mechanism of how Narcissa did foul Voldemort.

[@AndrewJamesGordon]

I just find it hilarious that every time Ben says Occlumency, the Closed Captions say Aquaman scene 😂😂

[@corgi42069]

My headcanon is that when Dumbledore finished talking to Harry and Harry woke up, he had a moment to turn to Voldy and say simply, "Oh, Tom..." In a disappointed voice before the scene fades and Voldy wakes as well.

[@becnoremac-mail7307]

I think it's a little bit of all of them. If MoldyVort is at Kings Cross, he knows Harry is alive. He can't let his followers know Harry is alive. He chooses Narcissa *because* she isn't a death eater. She will tell him what he wants to hear either way (he believes its because she is afraid of him). Bellatrix would tell him the truth or cast Avada Kevadra and his followers would know either way, and his followers desert him. Narcissa has projected in her mind the image of Harry dead. Moldy sees it but disregards it. All he knows is that spell doesn't work on Harry for whatever reason. He has to figure out another way

[@Morgyborgyblob]

Draco is not on the same level as Snape or his mother - Snape can tell that he's hiding something. Voldemort has zero suspicion that Snape and Narcissa are hiding anything.

[@Naseef99]

What if Voldemort was so arrogant he didn’t think narcissa would ever dare to lie to him so he didn’t even try to legilemense herso he couldn’t know

[@ladyrazorsharp]

That was my take, too. Of course she wouldn't lie, especially about something like Harry's death. He'd gotten what he wanted and he just knew Harry was dead. He wanted to hear Narcissa say it. I'd say "what a piece of work that guy is" but that's the biggest understatement ever!

[@thatguy7369]

I was under the impression that the little monster baby in kings cross was the horcrux that was attached to Harry. The elder wand killed Voldemort's horcrux instead of Harry, which is why it didn't kill Voldemort himself in that attempt like it does later at the school, it already killed something so it couldn't also kill the real Voldemort that time. This leave a few questions open though, like why Voldemort was still knocked out during that first attempt, though there are certainly many different things that would be perfectly acceptable explanations for that. Another open question would be why Harry himself ended up in kings cross with Voldemort's horcrux if Harry himself didn't die.

[@ShirleyLestrade]

Man Ben must be excited about this theory he was talking super fast 😂

[@lewiscooper3556]

There's something that always sort of bothered me about Occlumency, which is, can the person attempting to read your mind tell that you're blocking them? Take Snape for example. He had been blocking Voldemort out of his mind for around 18 years or so since he turncoated to the Order. Voldemort believes that Snape is a spy only for the Death Eaters, spying on Dumbledore, but would he never want to check just in case Snape's lying to him? Yeah Snape's blocking him but all Voldemort really needs to know is if Snape's lying, and the fact that he his being blocked from Snape's mind would be enough suspicion to go on, surely? The thing with Narcissa potentially using Occlumency is the same. The fact that Voldemort can't read her mind in that scenario is evidence enough that she's lying right? Someone please tell me if I'm being dumb and this is it but maybe Occlumency just lets you plant other thoughts for people to read that aren't your true thoughts, to throw them off the scent instead of completely blocking them out. I've always taken occlumency to be just straight blocking out but I'm willing to be wrong

[@elsiedenton3658]

I suspect that at its simplest occlumency is straight up blocking, and this is perhaps fairly easy to do. For example Dumbledore thought Harry might have a chance of keeping Voldemort out, at least when Voldemort wasn't physically present. Likely we have an example of Draco doing this level of occlumency to keep Snape out of his mind in Half Blood Prince. But it seems that there may be more, I think Snape even alludes to it indirectly in the same scene, when he implies that the very fact he is being blocked by occlumency implies that Draco is trying to hide something from the Dark Lord. This indicates that the Dark Lord must read his followers thoughts on a regular basis. Therefore, since we know Snape can lie to the Dark Lord and does so on a regular basis, there must be more advanced levels of occlumency that he has mastered. Perhaps levels of fake minds that can be built and read to fool a legilimens. Voldemort would even expect Snape to be able to do this, as he is supposed to be able to lie to Dumbledore who is also a legilimens. So Snape is probably so good at occlumency that he can lower his occlumency to make it look like you are reading his thoughts, but these are fake thoughts that he can again lower to reveal his 'real thoughts', but there is probably let another deeper level that he keeps his ultimate goals at. Like SCB said, this sounds exhausting, but this is the level Snape does occlumency at.

[@davidw.2791]

That’s the difference between the kind of Occlumency that Snape will have to do against Voldemort, and the kind that Harry was supposed to learn. If Harry had learned, Voldemort won’t be like “RUH UH WHY IS POTTER BLOCKING ME DOES HE HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE?!” because they’re sworn enemies. Snape on the other hand, is supposed to be on his side and LET Voldemort read his mind whenever he likes, to confirm that Snape isn’t lying or withholding stuff.

[@samurexatlas7373]

I agree most with the final idea, that Voldemort, once more, was blind to love.

[@kateevanspollin6851]

I don't think there is any one reason. Not every question requires a "or" answer. It's more interesting to me to think of the subtle interplay between the possibilities. I think that Narcissa must be something of an accomplished Occlumens or she would not have survived in the periphery of the Death Eaters so long; she had to be able to hide the Unbreakable Vow from him though Draco's assignment would have been uppermost in mind. While she may not have been powerful enough to block Voldemort if he CHOSE to probe, his arrogance meant it was inconceivable to him that he would fail. But, rattled by his near death experience, he tested her pronouncement with the Crucio. Crucio is meant to inflict pain. It was pointless on a truly 'dead' body - unless that body might not really be dead. Had Harry even twitched, Narcissa would have been killed and Harry attacked en masse. Voldemort's almost determined ignorance of the power of Love, plus the arrogance, means that he cannot conceive that Harry's death was a deliberate sacrifice as an expression of love for fellow wizards; it saves everyone from harm by Voldemort, and that extends to Narcissa. As for her mother's love, that may have strengthened her power of occlumency just as it may have added force to Molly's spells during the duel.

[@user-hx6ye4jq1n]

Voltemort truly dismisses that most powerful of all magic, the power of a mother’s love. Because he was conceived by use of love potion & his mother died soon after he was born , Voltemort never knew a mother’s love. And since he never knew it, he thinks it doesn’t exist

[@arinerm1331]

I do not often comment before watching, but on this one I will. Narcissa Malfoy was able to lie to Voldemort -- who is the most powerful Legilimens of his time -- the same way Severus Snape did it. The lie was hidden in a cloak of love, which was impenetrable to Voldemort. It is the "power he knows not."

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

15:57 Called it! Dumbledore was right about love! It truly is Tom's bane!

[@isatheorist8475]

I like the last theory it bring the story full circle.

[@CongaFool]

I like the last theory, but you also forget that Voldermort was not the owner of the elder wand & he was losing power as each horcrux was destroyed. Plus Belatrix was his most trusted death eater & Lucius was broken so why would Voldermort not trust Narcissa to tell the truth? With her knowing Harry was still alive, she would know that Voldermort was not as strong as believed.

[@SpizzyRich]

9:17 Why would it be his ultimate fate? I was under the impression that what we see there is a piece of his shattered soul, but I thought it was unable to pass on due to the remaining horcruxes. I always thought that, when the last horcrux was destroyed, all the parts of his soul would pass from the world (as well as the limbo of "Kings Cross"), which was what Tom always feared the most.

[@AuthorZaraHoffman]

The horcruxes were all outside of Voldemort’s resurrected body. That piece of soul inside him would have still been alive even with all the other horcruxes gone

[@Deathdealer1304]

Just the pick me up I needed today. Always love the content, especially on days like today.

[@angelm.bouchard3722]

Has anyone considered that Voldi just isn’t as good as he thinks he is because he’s a narcissist who is surrounded by his cult. They tell him he is great at everything. Either because they are enthralled by him or afraid of him. Then the ones who are accomplished, like Snape and Narcissa pretend they aren’t. Bellatrix may be better than him, but she lets him read her thoughts, unless maybe she needs to protect herself. So, he would think that even though she is an accomplished occlumence he’s better than her. After all, he believes he’s better than everyone else at everything.

[@funkyfemsel2112]

Well done guys!! This was a really good one ❤❤❤

[@Bryan-gy2zu]

I think SCB has unlocked a very intriguing What If? with this episode. What if the final battle had gone differently and Voldemort survived or even won? Would Narcissa go on to take Snape's narrative role and become a double-agent for what's left of the resistance?

[@thedragonwarrior5861]

I think that would make sense

[@imsotired40]

But the question remains... Why did he pick Narcissa out of all the rest of them? Especially with his top general Bellatrix right there?

[@amberbanuelos7053]

I’ve always wondered this too. There had to be a dozen Death Eaters around him, why Narcissa? She was literally the only one with motivation to lie.

[@mareksroka5629]

Actually, I feel this adds credits to the 3rd explanation. This shows that Voldermort actually had reason to believe that Harry might be still alive and sent someone that knew would lie about it, and keep it "secret" from his followers. If Harry WAS alive, he didn't want them to know (but still sent someone that he could read the truth from with legimency).

[@Andrew-ey7wr]

Plus he hated the Malfoy family … was going to kill Draco if he failed to kill Dumbledore … no reason to trust Narcissa plus he wanted any excuse to kill Lucious … so I hated this scene

[@jacobdavis3359]

I actually have this one as one of four hp theories that I wanted covered

[@richewilson6394]

I believe that because Voldemort was weakened by the horocox is being destroyed that that and the combination of narcissus love for her son and family is what shielded her from him.

[@philipfinch8943]

Haven't watched the video in full yet, but Narcissa was protected by Harry's sacrifice. She was never for Voldemort and Voldemort couldn't see it because of the sacrifice that protected everyone on Harry's side.

[@tylerhayes9808]

I think you're reading too much into it. If Voldemort was looking into her mind i think he would see the question "is he alive" not draco but about harry as thats what voldemorts assuming. Then her happiness of draco being alive Voldemort clumsily translates to good harry is dead 😂

[@user-dy9pf8hd4g]

omg I have now been watching you for 4 years and your content has improved so much ! Can you pls upload more I need more What Ifs

[@TechandEngineeringKid]

Thx I’ve been wondering about this for months

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

The power of love truly does incredible things❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@crazyfrytka]

I'm amazed you didn't connect those 3 mothers to Hollows. 😂 Like, it writes itself: - Lily was taken back from death by the Stone, - Molly won duel with Bellatrix like an owner of the Wand would do, - Narcissa shielded Harry from death like a Cloak. Guys, come on, it was given to you on a silver plate. :D Mother's love overcoming the Death, being personifications of Hollows. I'd dare to say: It was PRETTTTY OBVIOUS.

[@littlestar7458]

THIS... is a plausible theory.👏👏

[@FoxyGuyHere]

It could also be simply that Voldemort just destroyed his second last horcrux therefore not being in his most powerful state. Also emotions affect your way of thinking etc and he was happier than like ever at that moment.

[@loneerv]

Let's also not forget the amazing actress who played her. Helen McCrory was so awesome as Narcissa and as Aunt Polly on Peaky Blinders. R.I.P. her work was amazing.