NOTES: -I'm not saying that a new ocean liner industry will rise and be popular, I'm just saying that maybe in 10 year's time, we'll see 3 or 4 ocean liners plowing the seas of the world. They'll offer an alternative to flying for people like me and countless others who are willing to spend more money and time to get to their destination. I'm not saying ocean liners will ever "compete" with air travel. -The newer Cunard ships: MS Queen Elizabeth, MS Queen Victoria, and MS Queen Anne are all cruise ships, and are not built to the strength and ocean liner standards as RMS Queen Mary 2. -Why didn't I mention seasickness or the rolling of the ship? -Because the Queen Mary 2 is the most stable ocean liner ever built. The ship has never experienced violent rolling in the 20 years she's been in service. In this very comment section, are some folks who sailed on QM2 as she plowed through hurricane Sandy in 2012, and they were surprised how smooth the voyage was. She's so steady that many folks who claim to get seasick on most voyages, often report that they didn't feel that way on QM2 even when they sailed through a storm. -Yes, while currently Queen Mary 2 takes a week to get across the ocean, she was built to cross the ocean in 4.5 days. They slowed her down only in recent years, because passengers want to enjoy their crossing, and the current clientele is not in a rush to cross the Atlantic. BUT SHE CAN DO IT FASTER than a week.
@Danno198310 ай бұрын
@AlextheHistorian At the mo QM2 N QUEEN VICTORIA is on a 108 night World Cruise live on @Solent Ships wen they both left
@Danno198310 ай бұрын
Also she came back from a Refit
@richardcarte10 ай бұрын
I think the Wright brothers would be highly offended by this video. Lol :)
@richardcarte10 ай бұрын
All my life, I have loved both the ocean and aviation. I have always said my heart belongs to the ocean. Never traveled on an ocean liner nor cruise ship but my love for the ocean wants me to do it. I grew up in San Pedro California you’ve been to the Queen Mary so maybe you’ve been there. if you haven’t, I highly recommend you go and when you do, you should especially look forward to going to the Maritime Museum. Whether or not oceanliners do come back, I will continue to love the ocean and flight And will always look forward to traveling by way of both. The only thing stopping me from traveling on a cruise ship or an ocean liner is the pricing.
@TheTransatlanticExchange10 ай бұрын
Having been aboard all three current Queens, including QM2 twice, I assure you, she is extremely stable. Why? Chief Architect and Designer of QM2, Stephen Payne, was onboard a voyage on MV Queen Elizabeth in September 2021 and addressed my query. Ocean liners before QM2 were “over-engineered,” with more steel and rivets to keep them in place at a time when ship design was all done manually. Thanks to computer technology, this has resulted in better design and weight distribution to improve stability and metacentric height. In addition, stabiliser technology is far better. The Denny Brown stabilisers affixed to the original RMS Queen Mary in 1958 were gravity gyroscope operated, which meant the ship was already starting to roll before the stabilisers responded. Seeing British Pathe footage of RMS Queen Mary after they were installed, she was still rolling 10-15 degrees to either side, in moderate weather, which would be totally unacceptable today. However, RMS Queen Mary 2 has computer gyroscope stabilisers which not only respond faster, but they actually predict the roll and can predict the wave patterns, allowing the ship to stop the roll before it even starts. During a Category 8 gale mid-Atlantic, I could finally feel her move and, for those who life in seismically active areas, it feels like the initial movement of a very mild earthquake. Instead of leaning from one side to the other, you feel like the whole floor is moving gently, ever so slightly, sideways. While the rolling can be controlled with the stabilisers, the pitching cannot. Instead, it is mitigated by the ship’s ingenious hull design. Her flared bow, similar to the cutting edge (no pun intended) prow of the legendary SS Normandie, and her novel stern help reduce this movement too. QM2 is a legend in her own right and was the perfect place to commemorate the coronation of King Charles III. Thank you for this wonderful video lobbying for a return of ocean liner travel. In the words of the late John Maxtone-Graham, it really is “the only way to cross.”
@legiran956410 ай бұрын
The biggest difference between Queen Mary 2 and any other passenger ship in service. When Hurricane Sandy hit the East coast in 2012 all other cruise ship either hunkered down or moved locations away from New York harbor. Queen Mary 2 ploughed through Sandy at 20+ knots as if it wasn't even there.
@adadc405210 ай бұрын
She sure did, we were on her...last ship to leave the harbour before they closed it down. It was a great crossing with swells following us almost all the way to the Channel.
@paulstreeter984510 ай бұрын
Yep, I was on board for that sailing. I was amazed how steady she sailed through the storm.
@ketch_up10 ай бұрын
This is quite a story. Is there any documentation of this voyage (i.e. news reports, vlog series, etc?)
@CETravelGames10 ай бұрын
@@paulstreeter9845 I was as well - I was only 6 & 7 that voyage so I don't remember much I remember being told though that a lot of people were becoming seasick that night
@legiran956410 ай бұрын
@@ketch_up You won't find any news report about that incident because nothing happened that's news worthy. As I said QM2 ploughed through Sandy as if nothing is there. There was barely any film made by the passengers because it was nighttime (except for the sound of gale force winds everything outside was pitch black) and they were told to stay in their cabins for the duration. Fortunately some disobeyed. It was so dark outside the person had to film the bow wave just to show how terrible the state of the sea was. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gX-wgmmpobWamZY
@NorseNerdleMeister10 ай бұрын
I don’t necessarily think if the ocean liner made a comeback, they would have to be as large or fancy as the QM2. Heck, even a ship with just practical, comfortable interiors, good internet, decent affordable food and a good service speed would be far better than any airliner.
@frglee10 ай бұрын
I agree. Decades back, I took the 2 night crossing from Portsmouth in the UK to Bilbao in northern Spain aboard the P&O 'Pride of Bilbao' large car ferry. It was a most enjoyable trip. The cabin was fine, the ship wasn't ostentatious but it was clean, modern and spacious, with good facilities,and the food was excellent. I could quite happily travel on a ship like that for a week or so, which would get me across the Atlantic or even as far, say, as South Africa or the Caribbean.
@gtaitz10 ай бұрын
Just don't name them after sunken ships. That's bad luck.
@jetblackjoy10 ай бұрын
The larger the ship the safer it is in rough sea. So if they build a new one, it will be something equally if not more massive. The level of luxury, however, is likely to be reduced. Even rich people today don't care much for lavish decor during a utilitarian 3-days journey and would prefer simple but well-designed comfort. So, basically, it has to be a complete analogue of a train to be profitable. In Russia 7-9 days long trains across the country don't lack passangers even in platzkarts ('3rd class' cars with a common bunk bed dormitory in each) despite the tickets costing almost as plane ones. However, the maintainance of a train is much cheaper than that of an ocean liner...
@thiagotenorio403710 ай бұрын
No
@Intrepid15110 ай бұрын
YES! If i had to choose between a cramp metal tube with crying babies and ear popping, or a basic cabin with a bed and wifi, I'll take the letter almost every time! The only exceptions would be if I needed to be on the other side of the ocean in a day or less.
@tylerfrederick24610 ай бұрын
Alex, you have confirmed what I have always believe. Ocean Liners will never cease to exist. There will be another Ocean Liner. I just know. I hate planes myself. My last flight was a total disaster. Ocean Liners all the way!
@coolguy524410 ай бұрын
Hey look man I’m gonna be a little honest with you. My favorite ocean liner is always been the SS United States that I like it and I love it. I do not mind a SS United States to like the Titanic two I mean there could be a titanic two, but who knows
@thiagotenorio403710 ай бұрын
I love planes don’t hate them
@dlgregory3510 ай бұрын
They nearly have finished. Just one left are you saying somebody is going to build another one? If so you are living in fantasy land and so is this blogger. Can you really see somebody paying the extra money for a liner against a cruise ship?
@tylerfrederick24610 ай бұрын
Yes, Alex and I can. As long as people want to experience traveling on an Ocean Liner and are not keen on flying, there will always be an Ocean Liner.
@thefancydoge86689 ай бұрын
@dlgregory35 an ocean liner is an actual method of transportation unlike a cruise ship, and alot of people most likely would pay more to use a ocean liners, a flight isn't cheap to begin with and some people can't fly due to medical conditions and not everyone wants to be on a cramped plane with strangers.
@91_C4_FL10 ай бұрын
It wouldn't shock me if Cunard did two identical but smaller ocean liners (QE2 sized) in the next 10-15 years. Like you said, the demand is there. And it would give them a lot more flexibility over having a single ocean liner in the fleet (once QM2 is retired).
@richardpiper48286 ай бұрын
They even now have two new names to use in the drawer. Queen Camilla and the Princess of Wales (to be renamed at the relevant time).
@daleyseaton94263 ай бұрын
@@richardpiper4828I hope they return to their old naming practice, I hope in our lifetime we will see a Aquitania or a caronia sailing the seas
@WhySpeedBird1132 ай бұрын
*cunard white star lines
@WhySpeedBird1132 ай бұрын
@@daleyseaton9426yeah hope they make a aquatina 2 just like the mauretania 2
@91_C4_FL2 ай бұрын
@@WhySpeedBird113 *They dropped the White Star part of the name in 1949.
@dwa2220410 ай бұрын
I sailed home to New York from Southampton on QM2 this past July. In addition to everything you mentioned Alex, the best part about coming home on a ship is NO JET LAG! I was fresh as a daisy at disembarkation and ready to go!
@chrisbutler788310 ай бұрын
Alex, I am in complete agreement, and I will add that for business travellers, being at sea was a problem because they were somewhat cut off from the world. Ships now boast business centers and higher speed internet connections, so being at sea does not mean missing meetings or being unable to attend to work. Having sailed the Atlantic many times on QM2, I can promise you that she will be your favorite way to cross the pond - after enjoying this sort of trip, modern air travel seems almost indecent. I will always choose a liner, and I agree there will be more of them!
@milasudril10 ай бұрын
A floating and moving office.
@CCJ199810 ай бұрын
Yeah, in this day and age take the family, let them have fun while you do your work online. Then enjoy a nice evening with them. Got to love technology, can take a vacation and not miss work.
@botalm18783 ай бұрын
When I sail I disconnect because I'm on vacation. If I had a business and going cross the Atlantic, I'd take that to as a vacation and sort all errands before I'd leave just saying I'm off the current for five days. I have ;learned to cool down.
@calebrimer287010 ай бұрын
I feel you man. Us here in the railfan community see it the same way. Planes only get you there fast, but at the expense of comfort, experience, being able to get to know your vehicle, and to also enjoy the journey to the destination. Too much instant gratification.
@monsieurcommissaire162810 ай бұрын
Greetings and much love to the railfans, fellow lovers of civilized conveyances! I just remarked the other day to a friend that the world was a better place when people travelled by train and ship. They gave me a blank look, but we know what they're missing!
@steinwaldmadchen10 ай бұрын
Not sure where you're from, but here in Japan trains are often faster point to point, and runs more frequently than planes, though to be fair comfort is not much better than coach class on planes. Maglev promised to connect Tokyo and Osaka at little as 65 minutes, practically at the same ballpark as planes.
@singleproppilot9 ай бұрын
You could have both speed and comfort if you opted to fly first class.
@coasttocoastphoto10 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t get on a cruise ship if you paid me; however, an ocean liner is a different story. I’ve been a student of maritime history for decades and know a few things. My one regret is not taking advantage of an offer that I saw in the paper in Atlanta about 25+ years ago. I saw an ad which listed passage to Europe on the Concord with a return trip to NY on the QE2 for 5K. I was too young for such extravagance. I should have sold my soul at the time and taken the opportunity.
@nogoods351110 ай бұрын
Maybe selling your soul would be a too high a Price, but i get what you mean 🙂🌻
@dlgregory3510 ай бұрын
Why is getting on a ocean line a different story (there is only one ocean liner)
@shimesu44310 ай бұрын
@@dlgregory35 Ocean liners are better able to take what the oceans throw at them. Not to say that they can't sink due to bad weather and such - they certainly can - but an ocean liner can plow right through severe weather and rough seas, whereas a cruise ship will have to take shelter and wait it out. A cruise ship that gets hit by a rogue wave could easily be sunk by it. An ocean liner is capable of taking the hit and carrying right on, damage but still afloat. And finally, a cruise ship has a shallow draught and a lot of height above the water line, which will make them top heavy in rough seas. An ocean liner has a much deeper draught to compensate.
@dlgregory3510 ай бұрын
@@shimesu443 Hi, I am well aware of that. They were built as liners with reinforced hulls specifically for the Atlantic and being narrower than cruise ships able to plow through big waves far more easily. That was wht whole idea of liners..
@thefancydoge86689 ай бұрын
I always hated cruise ships and everything they stand for, they are such a waste of resources, you can literally do everything a cruise ship offers at a resort and everytime one docks at islands or whatever the locals hate it especially since it drives up everything at restaurants etc.
@aleet699310 ай бұрын
Remotework has become so much more common that if they just get wifi to the ship in middle of the ocean, even more people could have time to spend a week in the ship. Like do their work on laptop and then chill on the ship
@botalm18783 ай бұрын
Or just leave the work on shore and chill. There is a time for everything. Americans have a hard time to relax.
@aleet69933 ай бұрын
@@botalm1878 The problem is that most of people don't get months off from work. If you use ship to get somewhere, it could take weeks, if you are going somewhere not close to harbor, maybe few days more to get there from harbor. Then spend some time there and same to get back. You need 1+ week to get somewhere plane get you in 10hours. Thats why people prefer planes over sailing long distances and thats why remote work in ship could help that
@schrodingerscat1863Ай бұрын
With services like Starlink offering pretty much global high speed internet there is no reason for this not to happen.
@monsieurcommissaire162810 ай бұрын
I sincerely believe that the return to using civilized conveyances, meaning ships and trains, would raise the level of collective joy in the world considerably. Thank you again, Alex, for another excellent and uplifting video. It's always a good day when we see a new one from you!
@Fishycheese9910 ай бұрын
I’m praying what you’ve said will come true someday, I’d love to see ocean liners make a triumphant comeback from near extinction. It would also be a huge weight off many ocean liner fanatics shoulders who have to correct someone who calls the Titanic “a cruise ship” because it would spread more awareness of the MASSIVE DIFFERENCE between the two.
@frankwren821510 ай бұрын
I for one would definitely prefer an ocean liner to a jet in any situation that wasn't pure business. I think you're right Alex, and the rise of remote working/video conferencing drastically reduces the need for jet travel as well.
@angellight49510 ай бұрын
I would love to see the return of high speed trail & ocean liners as regularly scheduled options as alternatives to flying. I don't mind flying but I definitely don't enjoy it. I would certainly use it if, for example, I had a friend in the hospital or something like that. But, given a choice, I would rather do anything else.
@robertmuncaster351010 ай бұрын
I crossed in February 1959 on the Queen Elizabeth,we were battened down in a storm that made it into the newspapers, but we still got across in five days.
@samul753110 ай бұрын
This would be a dream come true if it happened, I really hope it does
@danielmads916010 ай бұрын
I would love to see a future with more ocean liners! Thank you for this video, I totally agree with you
@mikefly56210 ай бұрын
I love the concept of flying and fly world wide, but I'd love to take extra time off from work and sail on an actual ocean liner to reach my destination.
@Wolf_Dominic4 ай бұрын
After going on the Disney Wonder (which is a cruise ship, not an ocean liner, but it’s a valid comparison), I realized that ocean liners really do have a genuine potential, and value. Sure they might not be as fast as planes, and supposedly planes are safer, which I don’t exactly buy anymore, but they’re better in absolutely every other respect. Infinitely more relaxing, much more room, and entertainment, and if something does happen, you’re more likely to get out of that alive than if a plane goes down. Ocean liners need to make a comeback.
@botalm18783 ай бұрын
Yeah, and, not all people need the speed an airplane. Having som nice relaxing days with good food while still moving to your destination isn't too bad.
@ErfeeIsmail10 ай бұрын
I really hope that the Ocean Liner industry make a come back😔
@Kcritchett875 ай бұрын
What about Titanic II if it gets launched in 2027?
@AlextheHistorian5 ай бұрын
Oh Titanic 2 is never getting launched. Clive has been off and on about that project since I was a teenager. He's never serious, he just does it to raise interest in his company.
@Kcritchett874 ай бұрын
@@AlextheHistorian I said if. But I do have some hope i mean Clive has more money now
@brucetharpe7622 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t it be more meaningful if a replica of the Titanic could be designed as a museum to tell the story about not just the Titanic but the history of White Star Line itself and its iconic Olympic class ships?
@JJMHigner10 ай бұрын
I think this is a very real possibility as much as I know. Safe and reliable ocean liners can keep up with the changing times. Travel needs of the world and allow people to slow down a little bit and enjoy the trip, which is a good excuse in and of itself. It's probably worth it for all the reasons here. "Getting There is Half the Fun"-- That line makes more sense now than ever or will be if it's done right, especially as Cunard is owned by fun-loving Carnival. And agree that higher speed rail is another land-based solution to the airliner clogs and chaos.
@colinguo58554 ай бұрын
I don't think so. I prefer to have all the fun in the destination. So I cut out the journey's fun.
@janetryan977910 ай бұрын
What an informative video! I think it would be great if ocean liners increased in popularity as an alternative to flying. (They would be my preference over air travel). My uncle and aunt went to Europe at least twice during the 1960s on the SS United States, and thoroughly enjoyed their time in transit, as well as their European travel experiences. I enjoyed learning about the differences in construction on the ocean liners versus that of cruise ships. My dad rode the QM to Europe in WWII and was astounded at both the smoothness and the speed of the ride. It contrasted greatly with his experience returning home in January on the North Atlantic, in a smaller Liberty ship (and during a bad storm, besides!). He wondered if he had survived the war only to drown on the way home- but thankfully, they made it safely back. However, it wasn’t the pleasant experience had on the QM on the way over. Thanks for another excellent video! P. S. On the “cons” of flying you can add to the list that sometimes suitcases go on vacation to a different destination than their owners do! : /
@SS_Atlantic_Greyhound111910 ай бұрын
It would be nice for a return to Ocean Liners. Where they lack in travel time (which even then, is only a few days for the fastest ships) the ability to have privacy, space, comfort, room to move about. I had a similar hope with airships, which granted, are far from likely like ocean liners, due boosts many of the same advantages. More comfortable, privacy, still relatively quick, and arguably superior compared to passenger liners. Looking at Ocean Liners though, I due hope they take inspiration from the style and ideas of the past, including SS United States, Normandy, France, Queen Mary, etc.
@ketch_up10 ай бұрын
I think the argument to be made is the modeshare of ocean liners is currently virtually zero, so even a tiny increase in modeshare will be a hufe increase in absolute numbers.
@LBSC7010 ай бұрын
This is a nice comforting thing to know that Cunard will most likely make a successor to The Queen Mary 2
@EmmaCruises10 ай бұрын
Fascinating as always! 😁
@ManWhoLovesTheMary10 ай бұрын
One thing I like about dystopian could-bes like The Hunger Games, specifically the most recent prequel, is that it shows not everything will progress how we expect. I read a blog series last year that talked about how they CAN’T fly because of a medical condition, I believe. And they talked to others aboard who said they prefer this mode of travel because of many of the reasons you mentioned about air travel. I’ve heard the question of would you rather travel above the storm rather than through it. But I’ve also considered the chances of survival in the two different scenarios. Trains are becoming more popular and I’m seeing KZbinrs highlight the experience more and more and more and more. But I never thought that ocean liners could become somewhat normalized again for a similar, post-pandemic reason. And you know. With communication becoming easier and more rapid, work more remote and less static in a lot of instances, I can see other life factors becoming less important, like how fast to get somewhere. It’s exciting to think that ocean liners might see a resurgence.
@Ryzilience2 ай бұрын
I hope this happens! I always loved ocean liners as a kid and im now 21! I always wanted to go across to the us, canada but i am just afraid of flying, i feel as if a ship is safer because if it sinks, our technology today is so powerful that help can come a lot quicker and lifeboats today are so big that it will be enough for everyone to get on and lets not forget that disaster in the ocean is never likely to happen anyway because of the build quality of these ships! Id prefer to have space, comfort and huge variety of foods to like. An ocean liner comeback would make me cry of joy
@transatlanticnostalgia465510 ай бұрын
I literally made a community post 2 days ago asking whether the Queen Mary 2 is truly the last ocean liner. Time to watch the video now.
@Dexter037S48 ай бұрын
The QM2 is actually cheaper than an airline ticket here in Canada with any remote bit of comfort, which is insane to me.
@RailPreserver2K10 ай бұрын
I've always said that it would be neat if a cruise company or some other Maritime company came out with a new ocean liner that had the classic lines and profile of elegant liners from the 50s and 60s but still had all the modern amenities that today's ocean going passenger would expect with some vintage stuff added for history nerds xD
@johnrickard851210 ай бұрын
Ocean liners are also better for the environment, and with the increased focus on environmental issues in recent days I think Cunard is well positioned to capitalize on it with their luxurious yet reliable liner service. I sure hope they put more ships in service - it would mean I can finally visit Europe!
@singleproppilot9 ай бұрын
Ships are NOT better for the environment, not by a long shot. Do the math on fuel consumption of a ship like QM2 verses a Boeing 787 or Airbus A350. The airplane moves each person with far less emissions. It’s all that drag, mostly under the water, that makes a ship not a particularly efficient way to travel. Plus the time spent at sea and the number of crew required to attend to the passenger’s needs, make ocean liners not economically or environmentally friendly.
@AlextheHistorian9 ай бұрын
Well keep in mind, that you're talking about QM2 a ship designed for luxurious comfort. A serious industry would design economic options for a wider variety of travelers. In other words, slightly smaller cabins to fit more passengers per square meter on the ship. And it would slim down the crew to what is needed.
@johnrickard85129 ай бұрын
@@singleproppilot idk, I think that might have more to do with the fact that we have yet to employ "green shipping", but I suspect that it would be easier to power a ship with renewables than an aircraft, especially since they were once powered by renewables!
@colinguo58554 ай бұрын
Would rather take an airplane than a ship. Don't get me wrong ships are better in environmental protection, but I was sold on the plane as I still like watching them takeoff, land, and the services they have. Regardless of how bad it gets.
@dhilton776210 ай бұрын
Another thoughtful and enjoyable insight, thank you Alex. I personally have an interest in the past travel option of voyaging on a cargo liner, not on the north Atlantic route but to the Orient maybe. I understand that the experience and accommodation on these vessels was both relaxing and comfortable. In addition there was the opportunity of seeing exotic ports enroute to your ultimate destination (bland container terminals excepted). I don't know if such a thing still exists in the modern world (perhaps you do), but I cannot think of a more pleasant prospect given one has the time to devote to it.
@AlextheHistorian10 ай бұрын
People still travel by Cargo ship, once in a while you hear stories from travel vloggers.
@lindawillis274610 ай бұрын
I was so lucky to go with my Mom twice on the QM2 to visit my brother in Rhode Island.....its a beautiful liner!
@OceanStarLine8 ай бұрын
Based off of the numbers the Ocean Liner insustry can make a pretty good comeback with more modern technology and faster ships, Ocean Star Line has already started planning the first ocean liner to be bulit in over 20 years.
@AlextheHistorian8 ай бұрын
I've heard a few people mention this new ocean liner, but I still can't find anything about it anywhere online.
@OceanStarLine8 ай бұрын
@@AlextheHistorian Only thing we can reveal about this ship that it is the largest ever bulit in history (1,741 feet long).
@dl119508 ай бұрын
Is this any more real than the 'blue star line' titanic 2 proposal?
@OceanStarLine8 ай бұрын
Yes its very real, the Oceanic Class is a planned oceanliner in every way, we are going to put out more info in the following weeks.@@dl11950
@OceanStarLine8 ай бұрын
Yes this is very real, more about these ships can be revealed in the comming weeks.@@dl11950
@mike.427710 ай бұрын
Fantastic video!!! Yes it would be awesome if ocean liners returned!!
@EElgar185710 ай бұрын
I agree with everything you said! I'll be going to Europe on the QM2 for the 8th or 9th time in May. I love the ship, and despise flying, so I'm happy to pay the extra cost. Then I take trains everywhere! 😁
@kaamkmca9 ай бұрын
Brilliant and a careful analysis! I fully agree that Ocean Liners will return with more sustainable eco friendly means of transporting large numbers of people more safely and efficiently than airlines.
@SpiderYT2310 ай бұрын
Hey Alex, I'm not sure you'll see this comment. No KZbinrs really do see my comments but I just wanted to say this, and I know this sounds ridiculous coming from some random teenager in a KZbin comment section lol. For a while now I've been planning to make an attempt at oceanliner industry revival for almost 6 months now. I've already got a company name, Genesis Line, and even a concept for the first ship, the Dawn. Every time I tell people this they always say it's impossible. They say oceanliners will NEVER be back, and that I'll never be able to achieve my goal. I'm glad I found your video, finally, someone who has the same points I do. Again, you probably won't be seeing this, but the video you made has really inspired me to keep going, and not give up. Thank you.
@AlextheHistorian10 ай бұрын
Don't give up. "Your dreams can come true, if you have the courage to pursue them." -Walt Disney
@SpiderYT2310 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot Alex, I really appreciate this. :)
@arisgod274910 ай бұрын
We have stayed in Europe 5 months at a time in the summer months since retired three years ago (my main destination is Greece). We fly there in May and for the past two years, and returned by cruise ship that is on a relocation cruise back to Fort Lauderdale. My wife and I absolutely love it. It is a great way to relax, even though is much more expensive, we plan to do this for the foreseeable future. We have not been on the QM2 yet but I would like to try her out one of these years. Another huge plus traveling this way, you meet so many great people.
@lopaka769 ай бұрын
A few months shy of a year ago, I took a cruise to Alaska. My 1st cruise ship. I flew from Phoenix to Seattle and the ship was the best part. A few weeks ago I flew to Maui from Phoenix. I wished I was on a cruise ship.
@astron460610 ай бұрын
Tbh hearing about the que alone for the crossing, just hearing about that makes me think they really need another one, or hell even three, would really help work through that que and make the wait shorter and such
@kameelmohammed46833 ай бұрын
I think also that with environmental concerns, increasing using liners would become more popular over time because it's easier to have a lower carbon ship (due to weight/ fuel capacity) than a plane. Likewise with airships, but they would presumably have a lower passenger capacity than a liner, of course. Obviously, the ships would have to move away from diesel, but that doesn't seem like it would be that difficult. Maybe a hydrogen or even nuclear powered liner could be possible. I don't imagine planes being totally replaced, but for long haul destinations, being able to travel in some comfort would still be appealing
@Kitfoxmk110 ай бұрын
Alex, I really do hope you get the opportunity to come across the pond on the QM2, I for one would be happy to take you around and show you HMS Victory, HMS Belfast, SS Great Britain etc etc. we’ve booked to go QM2 this summer to the Norwegian fiords and I really want to make another trans Atlantic crossing on QM2 aswell. Please don’t hesitate to ask for help with accommodation and transportation when your plans are confirmed.
@AlextheHistorian10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, unfortunately due to the unusually high amount of threats I receive, I won't be telling anyone except my closest friends and family, when I will go on this trip, and my friend and I will be finding our own means of navigating around. I wish it didn't have to be this way, but this is the world we live in.
@johnsonfisher950010 ай бұрын
After flying to Europe several times and to Hawaii, the dreaded part of the vacation is the flight. Anything but first class is very unpleasant. However for competitive prices compared to a first class flight, you can take the Queen Mary 2 and cross the Atlantic with good food and entertainment and no jet lag. We sailed in rough seas but the Queen Mary was smoother than big cruise ships in wind from the sides and much more stable than the cruise ships in rough Seas, and I do love the big cruise ship total experience. Going west I would be happy with a repositioning Cruise for One Direction; the Queen Mary is my Top Choice forgetting to Europe and back.
@michaelcallahan535810 ай бұрын
A lot of people enjoy the ride, providing you have the extra time on your vacation. Voyage is well worth the time! The amenities are sensational ! You will never have so much fun, in such a short amount of time!
@botalm18783 ай бұрын
Europeans have 5-6 weeks vacation. Paid! Lot of time for a sail.
@mrangelini39035 ай бұрын
I booked the Queen Mary 2 a week before traveling home on their Christmas Cruise. I never want to fly ever again but again I have the time.
@josephpiskac278110 ай бұрын
Great your documenting more modern ships. Like I have said I visited Queen Mary Long Beach throughout the 1980s. I was at New York for the 2004 arrival of Queen Mary 2. I crossed the Atlantic on QE2 in 1997. I am very happy for your future QM2 trip. It is interesting that it is doing so well. I have sailed several times on QM2 and crew years ago more than once told me it was nearly empty on Atlantic crossings and they viewed it as a mistake. I have also sailed many times on the Princess Ship you display and it very is a very competent Atlantic Crosser. I am sure QM2 will show you a great time. However should the ship encounter an Atlantic Storm you may well be terrified with trauma. Bon Voyage!
@Peekarica9 ай бұрын
I do believe that the Seabourn Pursuit and Venture (new ships from 2022 and last year) from the Seabourn Cruise Line have some kind of ocean liner design in them or they were simply inspired by the Queen Mary 2. You should do a video about that ships. Really lovely liners!!
@jetsons10110 ай бұрын
Hi Alex, First??? Great watch to enjoy before work. Still trying to make it to the RMS Queen Mary for a tour but something always comes up.... Would comment more but have to hit the road.... mike
@just_a_random_dude_40410 ай бұрын
Amazing video as always, and very interesting!!! 💯🛳
@AussieGunzel10 ай бұрын
Another thing that should happen for an ocean liner return is for them to also be a bit like a ferry too so people can bring their cars along (definitely can see it as an option between Australia and New Zealand)
@botalm18783 ай бұрын
No good idea for a transatlantic ship. Big void in the middle of the ship which could easily be filled with water if there is the slightest hole somewhere. Look what happened to MS Estonia 1994 in a Baltic storm. The front gate went bust on a big wave and then the ship ate water like a whale. Sank like a stone. Over 900 dead.All the Baltic Sea ferries still load trucks and cars, but they have also new regulations for storms. The Baltic is not as deep as the Atlantic, but it only take 50 meter to cover a ferry. In the southern Baltic between Sweden and Germany its only 26 meters deep and the ferries there can never sink fully. But if you are stuck in a cabin you will still drown. I sound pessimistic, but I love cruising and have travelled with the various Baltic ferries hundreds of times for pleasure and business. Still, I don't think I would sail with a car carrying ship across the Atlantic in wintertime.
@laurielaurie828010 ай бұрын
Hi Alex :)) I think its a big possibility they will start traveling by sea more because the airways are getting so congested with planes. I think as the population increases they are going to have to find new ways of travel.
@joemode10110 ай бұрын
You’re absolutely right on my life. I would love you cross the ocean in an ocean liner, but it does get pricey, and I would love to spend more time at my other destination when I get there instead of turning around and come back but travel in the ocean and make a round trip back thinking about it would be quite fun and experience of a lifetime would never forget
@botalm18783 ай бұрын
They CAN sail faster and they don't need to be fancy. They CAN also have different classes again, just like airlines!
@burkestephens286210 ай бұрын
This is echoed somewhat in the use of ferries in Europe, SE Asia and Japan. Sure, you can fly some cheap carrier for $5 from here to there but then there’s all the add-on extras, airport hassles etc.. But there’s a sizeable market of people who’d rather enjoy the journey, bring along their baggage or pet or even your car on the same vessel. The latest ferries are very good, comfortable and with good quality eating and entertainment and feature family friendly cabins, pet-friendly exclusive cabins, great cabins and facilities for those with disabilities etc. I’m sure many here have also seen the ultra-luxury ferries they have in Japan also. Yep, I can see a weekly return trans-Atlantic schedule having a good business case for Cunard or someone else. I’d jump at the chance to go on liner Matson-style from Hawaii to San Francisco or LA too.
@ericb630910 ай бұрын
Once in a while I travel from the US to Spain, and on my most recent trip I took a cruise ship repositioning from Florida to the Mediterranean for the summer. I’ll be doing this again this year. Granted most people won’t have this kind of time flexibility, but it proves to me there is a niche market demand for this kind of travel. For me, there’s not much better than getting there slowly and relaxing on the high seas as we inch closer to the destination day after day. Of course I have to book a one way flight back to the states and they charge out the wa-zoo for those, but what can you do…
@scarx41818 ай бұрын
The biggest factor that makes me think ocean liners may make a comeback is possible flexibility using alternative energy sources. Long distance airlines are very dependent on fossil fuels, but were there enough demand even nuclear power remains an option on a large ocean liner.
@LAHRchitecture10 ай бұрын
Super Video. I booked first for my trip to New York one way Ticket on QM2…after relooking my vacation plans, as I was previsouly in New York, I booked the return (roundtrip) to Hamburg, to avoid the 6-7 hours in a Metal Tube called plane. I welcome directly a New Ocean Liner with a regulary schedule with QM2 on weekly base. Than you can spend a few days in New York or the States and come back with the liner. Long live the Golden Âge of Travel 🎉….Hoping it comes soon.
@cyclicmusings266110 ай бұрын
The time issue is the single biggest obstacle for me opting to travel to Europe via ocean liner. My vacation time is limited and I don't have 7 days to spare for an trip aboard an ocean liner (or 14 days if I roundtrip it). Then there's the issue with right now, NYC-Southampton is the the only option. Having said this, taking the trip on the QM2 or another future ocean liner is on my bucket list, probably when I'm retired and have all the free time in the world to take months-long trips into Europe.
@MrJeep7510 ай бұрын
A big trip like that you plan for it and make time
@scottwendt957510 ай бұрын
QM2 is capable of faster transits. If she had a sister, one could offer the faster transit time you and I would need. I can’t take more than a week off at a time either. Cunard’s parent, Carnival, knows this which is why they invented the 2 and 3 day trips out of Miami and Port Canaveral.
@mattdaddy_8889 ай бұрын
Yeah maybe employers should be less greedy and give out month long vacations instead of just two weeks out of the year I mean that's absurd our kids get to be off from school during summer longer than even a month meanwhile adult life really does suck whats the point of me making money if I can't just go out and spend it and have a good time.
@botalm18783 ай бұрын
You could fly one way. Don't spare it to retirement.You may not make it. Shit happens. I know.Im 64, and just came out of the hospital after a sudden unexpected emergency.
@botalm18783 ай бұрын
@@mattdaddy_888 Europeans have 5-6 weeks of paid vacation.
@Klyis10 ай бұрын
I think climate change and rising fuel costs could also boost demand for dedicated ocean liners since they are a more economical and environmentally efficient means of transportation than airplanes. They are also more compatible with zero carbon power systems since ships aren't constrained by the size and weight of batteries or nuclear reactors. Personally I'd also prefer traveling long distance by ship or high speed rail instead of planes.
@Schatten193610 ай бұрын
I know everyone has their own opinion on the subject of the return of the Oceanliners and that's nothing bad, I think it would certainly be possible to bring back the Oceanliner in a similar style to Clive Palmer's Titanic II, which was never built, only as cruise ships, of course it's harder that way enforce a concept, many people only want balcony cabins and probably don't like this old-fashioned grandma style and then also the new safety rules Solas where on some ships you can't avoid installing something like a safety deck. But the advantage would be, in my opinion, since many cruise ships these days are more the destination and not the ports and people who live there. Instead of using the Oceanliners more as cruise ships, one could bring these things back to the foreground instead of the ship itself, it would be clear It's definitely not bad to have at least a few modern rooms with the help of a safety deck like on the Titanic II so that the passengers don't get completely bored. And you could definitely use areas like 3rd class as a museum to give people more understanding of what it was like in these classes back then and to show a little something about immigration to other countries thanks to these ships.
@LindaSolis-b9s10 ай бұрын
I would love to take an ocean liner some day 😀 By the way, I have a suggestion for some research you may be interested in. I saw a YT video about the steam ships that used to transport passengers on the Great Lakes U.S. My dad told me that after he graduated from college (1940s) he worked on one of these ships before marrying my mom and moving to CA. Sounds interesting!
@rickynuttall1634 ай бұрын
I love your premise and support it, i believe ocean liners should now still exist, there was something of a luxury and new experienxe with ocean liners which cruise ships cannot offer.
@Granny_Gaming10 ай бұрын
I dont know why but i feel ocean liners being more safe than airplanes
@wutrudoin10 ай бұрын
They aren't.
@AlextheHistorian10 ай бұрын
Statistically speaking, they aren't, however, when something does go horribly wrong, you're more likely to survive an Ocean Liner disaster, than an airplane disaster.
@Granny_Gaming10 ай бұрын
@@AlextheHistorian I still find myself much more calm on a ship than a airplane
@Achilles20169 ай бұрын
@@AlextheHistorian because like an airplane can snap into multiple pieces and like break the plane’s neck and since most airplanes crash nose on your most likely to die in the front
@MartinCHorowitz10 ай бұрын
An Ocean liner may be a better choice for around the world cruises than a cruise ship. The really long stretches can be shortened by the ships speed, and people joining for part of the trip can expect more reliable port dates. The North Atlantic run is likely to remain a favorite route for scheduled service, especially if Iceland's Volcanoes act up again.
@michaelbuntine36210 ай бұрын
Has someone that hates flying and modern cruise ships are just a horizontal skyscrapers ..THE WORLD NEEDS ANOTHER AND MORE OCEAN LINERS.
@janetcarbone421310 ай бұрын
BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME! I do hope your hunch is correct. With all the vids on passenger meltdowns, I think some people will want an alternative. I think ocean liners are so classy
@singbike58329 ай бұрын
I was just saying, I'd rather take a boat to get overseas than a plane. The problem nowadays is it takes 7+ days just one way because transatlantic voyages really are for cruising instead of transport. If they introduced express liners again that took less time, I'd be up for it!
@ukaszwalczak115410 ай бұрын
ALSO, to elaborate on the 'cruise liens jumping on the proverbial ship', someone once said that, Seabourn could've just been White Star Line. Seabourn has always seemed to me like sort of an outcast in the Carnival group, Carnival, HAL, etc, have some history to them to justify them existing as Carnival Group subsidiaries, Seabourn seems like it just, existed, got absorbed, no history at all.
@Randomstuffs26110 ай бұрын
OceanLinerGang>AirLinerGang
@taridean10 ай бұрын
As a staunch aviation enthusiast, I don't believe oceanliners are going to ever compete on price and convenience. However, I do believe their renaissance is going to happen more on the 'experience' side of things for those that have the time to sail on them. I think the Millennial and Gen Z digital nomads is a market oceanliners can tap into if they haven't already. I would gladly take an oceanliner knowing I have ample space to both work (with good Internet access) and relax whilst going to my next destination.
@129jaystreet10 ай бұрын
There is a very good possibility that millennials and gen z won't have the financial means to travel like the boomers did. The boomers are spending every nickel before they kick off. To spite the fact the younger generations are not married and are not having children, are better educated, they cannot afford to own a house. 2024 will be a year to remember
@botalm18783 ай бұрын
There are many people that hate flying and would happily take liner. And about time, what's the rush. Back in the day before the jets, people just took their time to sail across the Atlantic.
@taridean3 ай бұрын
@@botalm1878 it all boils down to 'time' at the end of the day. Some that hate flying haven't got the extra 7 days spare doing a Transatlantic crossing by oceanliner when it can be done in 7 hours by plane. This is especially those from countries where vacation/holiday days away from work are on the low side.
@paulstewart629310 ай бұрын
Our school went down to see the QE2 being launched, it was great! 1967 I think.
@vintageradio340410 ай бұрын
Cunard also has the Queen Victoria and Queen Elizabeth, both which took it in turns to sail in and out of Sydney Harbour when they first hit the water. They have also just launched the Queen Anne, so now there are four ships in their fleet. Ocean liners are here to stay.
@AlextheHistorian10 ай бұрын
Queen Victoria, Queen Elizabeth, and Queen Anne are not ocean liners, they are cruise ships.
@jerryn.18234 ай бұрын
@@AlextheHistorian Though the Queen Victoria, Queen Elizabeth and Queen Anne were built with stronger bows so that they can do the occasional transatlantic crossing like once or twice a year. I really would like to see Cunard now owned by Carnival Corp. build another Ocean Liner to be a running mate to the Queen Mary 2
@botalm18783 ай бұрын
@@AlextheHistorian Right, it also have with accommodation and pleasure things to do, apart from the ship hull and life boat rules.
@Dallen910 ай бұрын
I can see Ocean liners being made as Anchor ships for a cruise fleet. Ships that are 100% guaranteed will be on time and ready to sail on schedule every time all the time. QM2 has just been that reliable and to ignore QM2's track record is insanity at its' finest. I think the problem has mainly been for the money to have a really nice Ocean liner you could have an Oasis of the Seas, and the Military reason of sponsoring the construction of an Ocean Liner so that in full war scenarios to be made into troop ships(like how the SS United States was contracted to be built) has been made mute by the Air forces' and Navies' ability to transport metric tons of supplies and troops when need be. However I think what you've pointed out with QM2 maybe why even Cunard maybe thinking of getting a few more Ocean liners. As you pointed out the reliability to always be on time and the fact a dedicated fan base has developed for QM2 I could see maybe Carnival (Cunard's parent company now) maybe making a few more that would be top of the line and be as I mentioned Anchor ships of the cruise fleet.
@botalm18783 ай бұрын
QM 2 doesn't sails at the capacity speed so it's easy to be on time, just put in some more coals when late.
@Dallen93 ай бұрын
@@botalm1878 Which is part of why she's so reliable.
@MJAlford9810 ай бұрын
Another con for airliners for anyone in the creative industry is the sever luggage restrictions. I'm just getting started in photography & blogging and dread to think how I'm going to travel internationally with all the necessary kit. I'd quite happily take a liner to get around.
@maverickmraz53564 ай бұрын
Next week I'm flying from Western Canada to New York to go on the Queen Mary to to Southampton. And then I'm flying back to Western Canada from London.
@Roar8384Ай бұрын
Woahh
@TopImpressiveLine10 ай бұрын
I completely agree that Ocean Liners could be another means of transportation within a decade or so, when the flight experience gets worse.
@draggonsgate10 ай бұрын
I've done the transatlantic 3 times, 2 westbound, 1 east. I'm booked for a round trip next spring. Flying out of JFK is a nightmare. An inside cabin costs about as much as a business class flight, but food (Cunard is above reproach!) room service, shows, entertainment is all included. And yes, you MUST plan ahead. Every sailing I was on was a full ship.
@gmlover8210 ай бұрын
Well done Alex! With you 100%!
@tonyansill30939 ай бұрын
I am surprised they haven't already built another one. With how poplar QM2 is they could do one in each direction. Having just one in my opinion is also a strategic approach, to maximize profits .
@botalm18783 ай бұрын
I thought Queen Anne would be a liner.
@YourTapeworm10 ай бұрын
Going to europe in june. On the way home we are taking queen mary 2. So excited.
@josegabrieldelgadoalonso48710 ай бұрын
I agree 100% with you Alex.
@sidz000110 ай бұрын
You are so right about the air travel. As pathetic as it gets, there's simply no alternative to it with it's speed and capabilities. Air Lines can see it as a monopoly as ... time is money. Hence, luxury cravers like us have no option. With airplanes here to stay for eternity, I awe to be a pilot but not suffer as passenger. I am glad to know that ocean liners are in demand and would feel grateful if QM2 gets a running mate. That being said, this was another fantastic video with top notch voice over. Keep up the great work!
@AlextheHistorian10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@johnryman136610 ай бұрын
Went to Junior Year abroad in Amsterdam in 1970 on the Statendam, returned on the France, still the best experience of travel I've ever had...
@OzzieBo10 ай бұрын
Happy Bday QM2!
@essexdreamer536510 ай бұрын
Completely agree with you mate love your videos, and happy to say I’ll be doing two trips on the QM2 this year after 20 years of dreaming I’m saving for it, transatlantic voyage at the end of June and Norwegian cruise in November hope you manage to do it one day soon as well.
@chrisbutler788310 ай бұрын
Which way are you headed? I am on the June 15 sailing, eastbound. If you're aboard, maybe I will join you for a pint in the Golden Lion!
@essexdreamer536510 ай бұрын
@@chrisbutler7883 thank you for the unite but ill be going bound the nyc on the 23rd june :)
@gleamingcolt10 ай бұрын
I believe many of these ideas, and feel like they could actually come back, at least I hope
@kartos.10 ай бұрын
Always torn between being terrified of being that far from shore and also hating planes.
@BNuts10 ай бұрын
Yeah, not everyone likes planes. Some people are even afraid of flying, and they certainly shouldn't be barred from traveling if they want to (I believe Moist Critical is one of those who has that fear, so if Charlie really wants to cross the pond, he can take a ship). It is possible that a technological shift could make ocean liners more popular, and airliners less. Maybe people will appreciate the longer crossing more, as it will allow them to take a bit of a break. Maybe there will be a resurgence in interest in ocean liners like _Titanic_ , and people will again wonder what it was like to cross aboard a ship. This would certainly cause a surge in _QM2_ 's passenger numbers. I would certainly like to do the transatlantic crossing at least once, but I don't know what I'd do while in Britain yet. That requires some planning.
@Ryzilience2 ай бұрын
Couldn't have said it any better! I am 21 and want to plan to cross the world by boat and have a 2 month holiday somewhere or even a month and I would prefer to be in a huge ship with comfort, privacy and lots more variety of foods!
@genearoth397010 ай бұрын
Hello Alex , I just happened to turn on KZbin. When a came across your latest video on crossing the ocean. I'm with you I hate flying !" How ever it is the fastest way of getting some where . I always wanted to cross the ocean on the Queen Marry 2 . I'm hoping to fulfill one of my all time dream trips . By next year . Or the year afther . I hope the ocean liner . Will always be a option for travel !!" I hope you have a Blast on your future trip !" I do enjoy watching your video's . . . Have a good weekend . . Gene ,
@GlamorousTitanic2110 ай бұрын
I hope to see a new golden age of ocean liner within my lifetime. Traveling the world onboard a floating palace with my own private room or suite.
@Bulgarian_Coastline10 ай бұрын
I tend to agree with you. I can see that there are people who still want to travel on ocean liners (you and me included). That being said, it's quite likely that in the next 15 years, we could see a few new ocean liners. The only thing I'm sad about is that they won't be as in the 1890s-1920s - their golden years, but that's alright, given the circumstances.
@gtaitz10 ай бұрын
Ocean Liners are a classic. I read somewhere that they plan on restoring the original Queen Mary to its former glory for future voyages. That would be awesome to see!
@AlextheHistorian10 ай бұрын
They're restoring the original Queen Mary in the sense that they are making safety repairs and refreshing her interior beauty close enough to how it used to be. But the ship will never sail again. She'll never leave the harbor of Long Beach, CA.
@gtaitz10 ай бұрын
@@AlextheHistorian Thanks for clarifying! I hope they bring back ocean liners, not everyone is a fan of airplanes.
@doodledangernoodle251710 ай бұрын
@@AlextheHistorianMaybe the SS United States could!
@botalm18783 ай бұрын
@@doodledangernoodle2517 No, she is probably too bad, having rusting away in Philadelphia for more than half a century. She is only an empty hull.
@botalm18783 ай бұрын
@@AlextheHistorian Right, she is too rusty in the seams. Would crack on open sea. I've slept on her twice. 1992 and 2017. She cant sink much where she floats. IF she floats. I think she is stabilized to the narrow bottom with steel poles. Cant sink much either. Probably only a couple of feet of water underneath. Go and sleep on her it is still a pleasure even if you are not getting anywhere but in your dreams. Sitting in the observation bar in the front is amazing, thinking of all the stars who have been theer in the heydays.
@robertbaxter402110 ай бұрын
I definitely want to go to America on the QM2 sometime
@jimcrawford503910 ай бұрын
The QE2 is the ideal size and the ultimate in ocean liner design. She is still around too!
@jerryn.18234 ай бұрын
The current owners of the QE2 that are using the QE2 as a floating hotel, have promised to Cunard/Carnival Corp. that they would never put the QE2 back into service
@botalm18783 ай бұрын
SS United States is still around too, but rusting away in Philadelphia.
@AafkeArt9 ай бұрын
A cruise ship is my nightmare but an ocean liner? I would totally consider an old-fashioned 30 knot liner (with good Internet) over an airplane. Couple of days of serious concentrated work versus the nightmare of airports, TSA, miniature seats, crap "food"... And the recovery time needed to get over the pain of a being six foot human being shoved into a seat built for a Hobbit for 12 to 16 hours.
@botalm18783 ай бұрын
You won't slip through security just for sailing. Security is even worse than TSA! Or, rather, the pre check in, with all the paper work and questionnaires all the way back to when and where you were born. And your sick history. They just don't let anybody on board.
@nikolausbautista892510 ай бұрын
A Modest Renaissance is reasonable to presume. Ships need development, but regulations need to accommodate the return of Ocean Liners. SOLAS regulations place lifeboats lower than the old days; QM2 has Exemption due to her Transatlantic Sailings, because of average maximum wave heights. The key will be the will to do so at the private, and the public levels. P&O, and Holland-America, and maybe Costa would be the next logical brands to see Ocean Liners return, and seeing as they're all under the same Corporate Banners, some Amortization could be had, with some commonization of mechanical components and hull-forms, with Superstructures being customized to recall brand heritage. Overall, if it happens- we'd all be the better for it!
@paulg213210 ай бұрын
The Queen Anne is coming soon so I'm curious which routes she will run. Sailing on the QM2 is on my bucket list for sure.
@supakat183510 ай бұрын
Ocean liners need to return, I need this in my life, I hate flying!
@jerryn.18234 ай бұрын
You're not the only one hating airline travel & I love passengers ships also
@reenabearkitty10 ай бұрын
It's reassuring to know that the demand to book a crossing on Queen Mary 2 is high. It'll be hard to book a crossing for now as long as my child is school-aged. Hopefully one day I myself can book a crossing :D In the meantime it's airline travel for me 🤷♀