How Old Is The Universe? | The Creation Podcast: Episode 35

Many scientists claim that the universe is approximately 13.8 billion years old by reverse-engineering the Big Bang with the assumption that this theory is correct. How then do they explain the signs of youth in the earth, our solar system, and deep space?
In this episode, host Ivana Semidey and ICR physicist Dr. Jake Hebert take a look at how phenomena like the earth's magnetic field, comets, distant starlight, spiral galaxies, and globular clusters provide evidence for a universe that is closer to 6,000 years old.
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[@christtheonlyhope4578]

The mysteries of the universe are so amazing and imagine how amazing God is. If it's this hard to figure out the things he's created, imagine how complex and awesome he is.

[@DailyRacingFunnies]

absolutely !! and this puney little so called big love for each other that we have, can you imagine how BIG His love is !!

[@kevwill59]

Amen! GOD is to be exalted and praised! Our Awesome GOD!

[@stevepierce6467]

Ah, the classic "the mysteries of the universe are so amazing.....therefore god."

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

God bless ICR 🙂🙏

[@jeffb1106]

Excellent video! Thank you.

[@mathiasalpizar-qe1pz]

This is very cool because the evidence aligns with the Bible. God bless ICR for bringing this information to us.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

And you don't think that they have been selective in their choice of evidence and interpretation based on their dogmatic preconceptions?

[@HS-zk5nn]

@@StudentDad-mc3pu no

[@user-vn8so9rf3d]

@@HS-zk5nn We still need to see inclusion of the many and huge asteroid impacts - Theia. Deniliquin, Vredefort, Chicxulub. Why are these ignored, but they exist in God's tmeline.

[@luisdasilva3879]

I see it this way. God created all things so that we humans can discover His works and in each discovery we can glorify Him. how great Is Our God.

[@georgebond7777]

I think it would be worthwhile to do a podcast exclusively on the latest JWST images.

[@michaelwaddell9461]

From what I have seen, there appears to be many many fully formed galaxies and individual stars shortly after their supposed" big bang".. which should not be, according to their standards.

[@joels310]

There is apparently more than 1 astronomer who are now signing off on nearly doubling the age of the universe... From 13.8 to 26.7 billion years old... These guys are then going to have to explain to biologists why earth is the sole life bearing planet after 26 billion years... In those time scales there should be galaxy colonizing species around every corner...

[@joelsweeney4024]

​@@joels310yet theres a secular paper claiming that the universe may only be about 1.4-2.8 billion years old

[@voiceofreason162]

​@@joels310No, it's worse. Decay rates get revamped and Earth doubles in age. It's a total rewrite of every text book, which has been admitted. They'll teach 13.8 Billion years on Friday afternoon, and 26.8 Billion years on Monday morning, and the evolutionary community won't bat an eyelid in the middle.

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

06:00 this is what I needed to hear

[@vikingskuld]

Hey the earth is definitely young. Dinosaur soft tissue really proves that and shoots their old earth time line of billions of years in the rear. Helium and lead problems with Z-pinch showing the same ratios we see today as a newly created radioactive isotope does. The amounts of erosion world wide to the amount of salt in the ocean, all show the earth isn't that old. It's actually an awesome time in science because there are so many groups disproving evolution and dating methods wrong. The evolutionists are having such a hard time of it they are literally freaking out trying to come back with arguments that work but are failing. Just keep learning you'll see

[@williamhoward2731]

I wish to thank you for sharing this awesome ( how Old is The Universe ? ) Podcast # 35 with me .

[@stuartofblyth]

It was getting more and more interesting - then the closing music started!

[@DailyRacingFunnies]

this is excellent !! thank you !! i love this guy... so smart... and explains SO well

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

08:30 wow!

[@joeosp1689]

An entertaining and easy-to-understand conversation about Genesis creation, evolution, and the Big Bang debate is the book Axis of Beginning.

[@Scorpion-my3dv]

Makes sense that there is a Creator. Evolution is the theory that is illogical. Everything in this world is made by something or someone. Things do not just appear out of nowhere for no reason.

[@revelationakagoldeneagle8045]

When God spoke creation into existence it was ex nihilo, that is, out of nothing. This demonstrates the unparalleled authority and power of His Word. He created out of nothing the heavens and the earth (and all that was contained therein) in six literal, 24 hour days (Exodus 31:17). All that He created was with age and did not need millions of years to evolve. Our world and all that it contains is about 6,000 years old. God created all things with order, purpose, significance, beauty, utility, diversity and for His glory. He said that it was good...very good. Man is the pinnacle of His creation and His designated steward of it. 👑 👆

[@listeningto8371]

Ever heard of quarks or photons?

[@haysbrickell9579]

There is no proof that something as absurd as evolution could have possibly happened. The Bible is an eyewitness record of creation. It really is a no brainer.

[@haysbrickell9579]

​@@listeningto8371Quarks are the very smallest known particles of God's creation. My understanding is that quarks cannot be broken down into smaller particles. Photons I think are the particle form of light, which also has the duality of waves. God obviously created light, and the Bible actually refers to Him as light. There is no darkness in God.

[@listeningto8371]

@@haysbrickell9579 You didn't get my point. Quarks pop in and out of existence continually.

[@shiminadar1855]

The planets we see are naked eye stars.

[@georgebond7777]

The latest JWST images of galaxies red shifted 13-35 billion light yrs away show these are fully formed, these should be immature, that supports what was mentioned here. It also supports the anisotropic principle of light travel being instantaneous in the direction of the Observer.

[@MrJes3141]

You just made a huge leap in logic here. What equations did you use to prove that red shifting caused an observable 14 billion year old universe to be thousands of years old?

[@MrJes3141]

Furthermore, the speed of light is finite, not infinite. Light bends and can be captured by a large enough gravitational force but it is never instantaneous.

[@mizmera]

Well, looking at the map of the universe, saying that the oldest is outside... has 2 impacts. Because we are seeing to all sides, this puts earth smack in the middel of it. Another problem... if everything started from a point of infinite and spread outwards... it also puts the "big bang" smack in the middle. It makes NO sense.

[@MrJes3141]

@@mizmera The cosmos, for lack of a better word is infinite, no matter where in the cosmos you are an "end," a "border," an "edge," however you choose to designate it is an illusion. If you are in so called empty space at the edge, looking out you would see more so called empty space. But empty is unreal. "Nothingness" is unreal. If you can see it, move through it then it is something even if there are no detectable subatomic particles. Vacuum is real. It occupies a definable space, no pun intended. Moving through vacuum brings the traveler to more vacuum, or material. It might be a separate universe, within a larger multiverse of which we are part but it can never be indefinable, it can never be nothing. Therefore the cosmos, or universe or multiverse, must be infinite. It is impossible for it to be finite.

[@MrJes3141]

@@mizmera I almost forgot my original point, which is, given an infinite universe, or a likely more accurate representation, q multiverse, there can never be a middle.

[@joaquinmiranda45]

Exelent!!!

[@staynalive660]

Thank you for these very informative podcasts!

[@zerosteel027]

The bible will always stand the test of time. In the end, all will see that his word is truth.

[@filmfan4]

Beyond the Hubble Sphere both matter and photons are being moved by space faster than the speed of light. If light can be moved faster than the speed light by space, it is possible for the light from distant galaxies to have reached us from across enormous distances.... but in very little time.

[@DailyRacingFunnies]

whoa !! this is the 2nd time i have heard this, you explain it very well... thank you

[@xX0IRIDIUM0Xx]

Only if spacetime is moving toward us. Gravity well theory is more likely.

[@paulgarduno2867]

I learned that Light does NOT use Time to move across the universe. It is only our human perception. Light is simultaneously everywhere. It makes sense because there is a Quantum entanglement reality.

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

What about the scripture that talks about God stretching out the universe? Just a thought. If he stretched out the universe after his 6 day creation, wouldn't that affect it?

[@Hamann9631]

God stretching the heavens is a metaphor based upon tent building. It has nothing to do with the stars moving apart.

[@joelsweeney4024]

​@@Hamann9631now that is just speculation on your part

[@Hamann9631]

@@joelsweeney4024 No. That is me using reason and logic to come to the most likely meaning.

[@oldtimerlee8820]

@@Hamann9631 Isa 44:24 KJV - 24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I [am] the LORD that maketh all [things]; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself As to "tents" take another look at that passage of scripture, in context. It is not about tent "building". Psa 104:1-7 KJV - 1 Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty. 2 Who coverest [thyself] with light as [with] a garment: *who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain* : 3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind: 4 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire: 5 [Who] laid the foundations of the earth, [that] it should not be removed for ever. 6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as [with] a garment: the waters stood above the mountains. 7 At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.

[@robertulrich3964]

if God stretched out the universe like a garment as written in the Bible, it would explain the light travel issue and maybe even the acceleration of space. If space itself has inertia, then it would still be moving outwards.

[@junacebedo888]

Some of the evidence or arguments here that the universe is young, I have already encounter them in Dr. Kent Hovind videos and debates.

[@paulgarduno2867]

When you ask yourself, how was possible for the massive galaxies to reach the distance of 13.8 billion years? (At speed of light).. It doesn't add up. Galaxies do not move that fast. The ruler they are using is wrong.

[@blackeyedturtle]

Thanks for producing and posting this extremely informative video. I believe there is a distinct possibility that during G-d's creation process, a plant grew from a shoot to a full grown tree in a few moments of time. If one was to be present during the act of creation it would be very similar to watching time lapse photography. When pondering the creation of living things, I am always drawn to the instance when Messiah healed the man who had been blind since birth (John 9:1). It is my contention that the man was born lacking eyes. The Messiah made clay by combining His spittle with dust of the earth, placed it where the man's eyes should have been, and from that clay formed two fully formed perfectly functioning eyes.

[@oldtimerlee8820]

Interesting symbolism. Thank you for sharing some food for thought.

[@waynebaker542]

Psalms 90:4 presents a variable for Einstein's Relatively Theory that allows light to arrive at earth in I think 13.2 billilon to of years but for earth for it to arrive at earth in 6,000 years.:

[@Hydroverse]

The spiral arms and jets correspond to the Final Judgment by fire. Isaiah 34:4, 2 Peter 3:10, and Revelation 21:1.

[@MastaE2288]

A fun riddle: You have experienced it yourself, and may have even witnessed it happen to another. It happens every day and scientists cannot comprehend it. It defies science itself. Though it has been observed and studied profusely, it cannot be replicated by human hands no matter how much time, dedication, resources, and effort is put into it. What is it?

[@oldtimerlee8820]

Life. Mankind cannot generate life from inanimate objects.

[@lewisedwards4058]

I have a theory that there are objects (don’t ask what or what kind) that somehow speed up light, and some that somehow slow down light. And they are both scattered all over the universe in between Earth and any given distance galaxy/star/planet/etc. whatever those objects are (Black Holes maybe?) when light passes by them, it is affected in some way that either makes the photons speed up or makes them slow down.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

Nice - have you any evidence for you HYPOTHESIS?

[@josephnebeker7976]

That's not a theory. It's provable fact. We see it on the Earth and in the cosmos. The "speed of light" is actually a speed limit, the maximum we have calculated light traveling at. The speed of light is not consistent in all situations.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

@@josephnebeker7976 Nope. It's not a fact at all, on fact the universe requires the speed of light to be a constant.

[@josephnebeker7976]

@@StudentDad-mc3pu go do some real research.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

@@josephnebeker7976 The standard "No I have not get any evidence" answer is "go and do some research". Here is mine. The speed of light is a constant and both the theory of relativity and special relativity require this. Since these theories make predictions which are observably correct I can go with them for the present. When light enters another transparent medium it APPEARS to slow down however this is not the case, becuase the speed of light is a constant. The loss in speed is due to a quantum effect, the photon wave function. The other occasion when light APPEARS to slow is when it enters a gravitational field - but what really is happening is that time itself is slowed by gravity. Having said all of that, if C is a speed limit as you say, then the Universe IS as old as scientific and astronomical observations would suggest as nothing can 'speed up' light past C.

[@josephnebeker7976]

I strongly believe you are wrong on this one. Absolutely nowhere in the Bible, or anywhere else in scripture, are we told how old the universe is. Anywhere. Genesis is talking about the creation of Earth, and likely our milky way. It is not the creation of the entire universe. And I believe the Earth is older than 6000 years. I find it very likely it is closer to 13,000 years old because of a few scriptures many young Earth creationists tend to disregard. In all honesty, I don't think we can know, from scripture, how old the Earth is. The best we can do is give an approximate date for how long man has been on Earth after the "fall" of Adam and Eve.

[@brycehedstrom374]

"And he made the stars also." Genesis 1 😂

[@leonardgibney2997]

You're right, the Universe isn't old, it never began. Anybody who believes the Universe is 6,000 years old needs to see a shrink.

[@Hydroverse]

Why do you think it never began?

[@marktapley7571]

All the pictures of galaxies, planets and other objects in space shown are I believe just photo shopped images, including the earth. If we have the Hubble telescope and satellites going through space, why can’t we get actual photos and not just fake ones.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

I've got a telescope and I can tell you that you are spouting paranoid nonsense - and quite offensive to the tens of thousands of astronomers and space technicians.

[@busker153]

The Masoretic Text contains provable errors in the genealogies, based on comparisons with other testimonies, like the Septuagint for example. For reasons we will not get into here, they literally removed 650 years from the genealogical timeline, so, the 6k year old earth is more accurately a 6,650 year old earth, plus or minus. This is still the same thing when you are comparing to millions and billions of years, of course, eh?

[@moneyvsfinance]

Didn't the speed of light slow down exponentially until it reached an asymptote? Missler showed this in his Beyond Series. Seems like that would help explain a lot of what we're viewing astrologically from Earth

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

No, the speed of light is a constant.

[@moneyvsfinance]

@@StudentDad-mc3pu No sir. Every time they measure it, it's slower, and is slowing into a horizontal asymptote, in the shape of an inverse parabola. Google images speed of light measurements over time, and you will see the pattern I'm talking about

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

@@moneyvsfinance NO it isn't. It has never and can never change.

[@moneyvsfinance]

@@StudentDad-mc3pu The only evidence I've seen is to the contrary sir. So you need to provide evidence contradictory to what I've seen in order to prove me wrong. I did give you a very simple Google image search recommendation, verbatim. So you might want to start there so you can see my case, then go about refuting it. Thanks

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

@@moneyvsfinance Nope, the speed of light is a constant and is not changing and there is nothing on Google that contradicts this. However, there is a hypothesis that the speed of light was different at the moment of the sudden expansion of the Universe and shortly after to account for the gravitational conditions then. But it's just an idea. The speed of light is not changing now.

[@gregorytoews8316]

The universe may not be old, but I wish it were. God is impressive/majestic, and expects us to reach that conclusion by observing the impressive/majestic universe he created. We humans seem to be impressed by big things and old things. I believe we're created this way. Since God is big and old, so to speak, compared to us, it should follow that the physical representation of Him would also be big and old, compared to us. To me this is more impressive/majestic than a small, young universe. IMO this is consistent with His nature. What would be wrong with God creating humans millions of years after everything else?

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

It is old, though.

[@oldtimerlee8820]

You said "What would be wrong with God creating humans millions of years after everything else?" Nothing if God chose that method. I'm asking the same question in a little different manner. What is wrong with purple beach sand, ebony apples and humans covered with feathers? Nothing in and of itself. However, the items mentioned were not created with those attributes.

[@tonytomlin5674]

This is lunacy, as predicted in the bible.

[@stevearcus2963]

My assumption is God created History in every part of his creation. Adam was made with about 23 years of history or similar. The tree of life maybe had 30 to 100 growth rings on it. The Animals of all kinds were created with an age built in. So our Hubble scientists estimations of 13.8 billion years or the other claims of millions or billions of years are also an estimation of the history that God put on every star and planet, about 6000 years ago when he created them.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

Er yes, your 'assumption' with no evidence to support it.

[@stevearcus2963]

@@StudentDad-mc3pu Logic is the evidence. All parts of creation on the day they appeared had differing ages, that is History built in. Had a mature tree died and petrified, it's rings of age would be evident to anyone who looked even though just created.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

@@stevearcus2963 logic is not evidence. Logic acts on evidence. You are making suppositions based on no evidence at all.

[@user-vn8so9rf3d]

PS Distant starlight problem - Treatment is a bit shallow here. Recent discovery of gravitation wave disruptions from a pair of colliding neutron stars showed gamma rays arriving from this same event with only a 1.7 second discrepancy, this after a 130 million year journey. This means that gravity also looks to travel at C. Arguments about light speed discrepancy and instrument problems fade into insignificance considering the difference between millions and thousands. The argument that God created the light (now with the gravity) "in-transit" implies a deceptive God and is certainly not the case. Then we have the argument that God varies C for EM radiation (and now gravity) is also weak - Surely we would be see a demarcation line showing the before and after. The concept of light speed variance according to its direction also feels like a lame and an anxious-to-explain argument, and could be checked by experiment.

[@robertulrich3964]

he created starlight in space, and then stretched out spacetime. light hasn't changed speed, just its relative position. if you want to interpret it wrong, its not God being deceptive, its just you interpreting a wrong conclusion.

[@user-vn8so9rf3d]

@@robertulrich3964 Need to see your evidence please. Perhaps some science journal papers please. So why does God create evidence for so many events that never happened? There are countless examples of ancient light arriving from distant stars and galaxies. The new space telescopes designed for infrared light are recording amazing events from the early Universe, and creating so many new questions (The more we learn, the less we know.) Why would God create asteroid impact craters on Earth if these impacts never happened? Theia, Deniliquin, Vredefort, and Chicxulub are the biggies, and all dwarf the Flood. Why would God do this? If Creation is only 6000 years old, why do no ancient texts mention asteroid impacts all with devastating supersonic tsunamis of ash and water, plus decades-long impact winters? How did ancient people miss these? Why don't ancient writings mention ice ages or plate tectonics? Then, our young Earth crowd says we lived alongside dinosaurs, and every animal was a vegetarian... So why do we have dinosaur fossils with eaten animals in their gut? And were pre-Flood sharks, crocodiles, and alligators ever vegetarians - Really? Why do the young Earth mob deny evolution, but then say that rapid evolution after the Flood was necessary when basic "kinds" evolved into the huge number of species we see today? I've so many questions to ask of God, but I guess these will fade when I get there.

[@Hydroverse]

We could just require a new physics. Study the similarities between galaxies and whirlpools. Particularly, one can Bing image search Bode's Galaxy Poster and Giant Biggest Whirlpool by whirlpoolhitman. Cross-reference that with 2 Peter 3:10 and Isaiah 34:4, and you have the Final Judgment as indicated by radiogalaxies.

[@mrazyone]

It's not 6k years old by scripture. It's 13028 years old by scripture. Ussher is incorrect

[@grande6075]

universe doesnt aged because ithas no beginning and no end.

[@MultiSky7]

It had a beginning. 2nd law of thermodynamics tells you so, because universe is expanding and Hubble Space Telescope proved it.

[@Hydroverse]

Generally, I reject that "A" can come out of "non-A". I say that because no argument can be made if that is denied. This translates to space not coming out of what's spaceless, or love coming out of what's loveless. The resulting implication is that reality is divided into causes and effects.

[@grande6075]

@@MultiSky7 if space is expanding how come the distance of earth from sun doesnt change its still 90 million kilometer and andromeda is still if i not mistaken is 2.5 million lightyears until now. if its expanding distance could been changed accordingly

[@grande6075]

@@Hydroverse i cannot imagine making of space from space itself.you cannot empty an empty space.Its absolute term, there could never be another perception of an space.

[@defaultname2345]

I appreciate it so much when ACTS AND FACTS magazine publishes the biblical reason for your giving credit to Jesus Christ for all things that have been made. John 1:1-5 spells it out. Without that (or other verses) we would just think, "God created the heavens and the earth." It helps to understand that Jesus, the Word of God, was in the beginning with God, and,that he WAS God, and that He created all things.

[@user-mk9qy4yd5t]

Pronounced "A-bear."

[@LuciferAlmighty]

Lie after lie after lie.

[@Hydroverse]

Ironic. Given your name.

[@georg7120]

Adding up the genealogies doesn't tell anything about the age of the universe.

[@Hydroverse]

If the heavens are made on day four, and Adam was made on day six, then it has to be in the thousands.

[@georg7120]

@@Hydroverse But Adam was not made on day 6.

[@Hydroverse]

@@georg7120 Okay, well that's a blatant lie because it clearly states God made mankind in His image. Either you don't know how to read, or you're perverting the text by redefining its meaning in some arbitrary way without any exegesis.

[@georg7120]

@@Hydroverse Genesis describes 2 (two!) creations. It doesn't tell when the first creation occured.

[@Hydroverse]

@@georg7120 Since God created man and woman on day six, then the act of creating man and woman in the second chapter would be a retelling of events in greater detail.

[@gregjones2217]

The universe is probably infinitely old and infinitely vast. Most evidence is pointing to that. Believing the opposite is against the laws of physics. That is something the ancient writers knew little or nothing about. The modern age awaits you.

[@Hydroverse]

Infinite age means the heat death of the Universe would have happened a long time ago. That, and we shouldn't see anything far into a Universe that's been expanding forever.

[@DavidBrown-zs1ic]

Then just explain to me how Jeremiah 4: versus 23 through 27 the world that was before Adam and Eve the world that was before the flood of Noah explain to me Genesis 1:1 which I believe is the gap Theory this universe is billions upon billions of years old this Earth is approximately four and a half billion years old come on man use that gray matter that's between your skull praise be to Jesus

[@Hydroverse]

So, when Jesus said He made them male and female in the beginning... He lied?

[@alienpov]

LOL Please stop. Don't use the word science . Just be a creationist .It works better with magical thinking.

[@trulyso734]

Yes The universe is not old. Of the sun, moon, and stars created withing 7 literal evenjng and morning days, is young. Per our Creator God's Genesis 1 account of it. The only thing not covered in overview for us (in rejecting manmade evolution theories as the absolute truth) is in the fullness of the realm of His heavenly abode; of Him and His angels to the naked eye however more advanced the telescopic tech/calcs. Im afraid those who straight up believe / support the ever evolving explanations of hard core evolutionists in their search to prove there is no God.. may ultimately resort to (if not already) looking to hypothesize that grey men alien sightings are their superior intellect god of forces.. when that would actually be Dark forces of wicked pollution that would be in essence. Our God is on His throne and very much Not Dead. Over and out

[@sentientflower7891]

If you read the Bible seriously you really have to admit that talking snakes would make the very best pets.

[@Hydroverse]

"Hiss, stop hissing in my ear." - Robinhood

[@danieln3181]

The earth is flat. We can't go beyond God's Firmament.

[@Michael-uf4ri]

God created all things in six days. Peter says for the lord a day is a thousand years and a thousand years a day . On day six he created man .we start here 6000 add to this. the generations of adam by genesis 5 to jesus Add 2000 years Approximately 36 to 37 thousand years.

[@Hydroverse]

Funny. It says a day is like a thousand years, but that a thousand years is like a day. Honestly, we need to get rid of the numbers and chapters in the Bible. Maybe people might actually read the thing in context. Also, Adam died in his 900s after being made on day 6. If you're trying to appease the old earthers with that age, then it won't work.

[@Hamann9631]

The universe has always existed. The Bible doesn't say otherwise.

[@MultiSky7]

Yes it says otherwise. Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God CREATED the heavens and the earth.

[@HS-zk5nn]

the universe is 14 byo. it has not always existed

[@Hamann9631]

@@MultiSky7 The Hebrew word for create means to create with existing material. It is the same word which would be used to describe cutting wood for a house.

[@Hamann9631]

@@MultiSky7 The Book of Moses in The Pearl of Great Price makes it clear. After showing Moses everything, God then tells Moses the rest of the vision will be only about this earth. The chapter which corresponds to Genesis 1 comes next.

[@Hamann9631]

@@HS-zk5nn That has been said; but never proven.

[@antonjoubert6980]

😂🙊🙉🙈🤣😅🤡

[@andyw.thompson266]

If you would consider or examine the HYDROPLATE THEORY, you would see possible solutions to the radioisotope issues. It would seem to me that it is past time to get over this animosity towards Walt Brown. Have some humility and forgive. It is the CHRISTIAN way. Once you do, you can see his theory is VERY CONVINCING.

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

If something goes against the bible narrative we can be assured, above all else, that it is untrue. Regardless of what is said or written.

[@georgejacob6378]

Claiming that the universe is 6000 years old because the Bible says so is the height of science....amazing ...I suspect these chaps make a living out of ICR which inturn I think is a political project

[@haysbrickell9579]

If evolutionists want to believe they accidentally came from monkeys and the universe is zillions of years old, God certainly gives them the free will to reject His creation and Him. Thanks but no thanks, I'll take the Bible and creation. No monkey DNA in my genes.

[@Hydroverse]

Actually, Matthew 28 tells Jesus' followers to make disciples of all nations. It's that, or watching people enter into the Lake of Fire for eternity without having done anything. They know the world mocks them for it, but temporal ostracizing on their part pales in comparison for the amount of time people will be tortured. It's not a thousand, million, billion, or googol years, but eternity. You'd have to really hate someone to not offer them what you'll believe can save them.

[@Magic818100]

I'm sorry as a Christian the Earth is not 6,000 years old in the Bible does not say that what day do they use the Hebrew calendar and they count all this stuff and they come to this conclusion. You have to understand one thing when these books were written days will not look at the way we look at them today

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

@JacobyourbrotherinChrist Yep - the earth is simply 4.5 billion years old.

[@HS-zk5nn]

what were humans doing for 395,000 before the ancient civilizations that seem to crop up around 4-6000 yo? sorry but about 6000 is the true age

[@davee4318]

I'm sorry but I really didn't hear a single detailed idea articulated here that convincingly supported the idea of a 6000 year old universe or refuted the scientific community's consensus of a much older universe. Did he present some data or even any specific facts which could support this notion that the universe is 6000 years old, or did I miss something? The "eye witness" accounts he referred to which he claims add up to 6000 years? If anything, it has been my experience that eye witness accounts of anything (not to even mention accounts spanning millenia) are absolutely fallible, and don't hold a candle to phenomenon which can be observed by multiple people, verified, and facts which can be proven or disproven, and in which experiments can be performed and recreated consistently to demonstrate results, observable at any time by anyone. I even went into this with an open mind, but the notion that the universe is 6000 years old, although it may fit creationism's narrative, is otherwise ludicrous. I am sorry, I really am not trying to be disrespectful, but I can think of no other way to describe it based on what I've heard here. If anything, the gentleman's tone towards there being a much older vs younger universe was kind of ambiguous at certain points. I would even find it comforting that the universe would be so young, but his arguments, if you could call them that, are not convincing. God bless.

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

Maybe you should try to look on their website and study a bit instead of basing everything on one video. What he did was give a basic synopsis of why they believe in a young earth. Seems like you are so easily swayed back to the world. If the world is what you would rather listen to than God and his word, there is nothing anyone can say to convince you. God's word is always going to stand firm. In fact Jesus said heaven and Earth will pass away but my words will never pass away. God was there in the beginning. We weren't. I think I'll take his word over man's word.

[@christtheonlyhope4578]

Icr has plenty of links and websites that delve into this. Maybe you should look some of them up. Or better yet pray and ask God to help you. The world is under the sway of the evil one and the bible even calls him the "god of this world." The people you are listening to are under his influence with no hope of eternity. Blinded by the darkness and given over to a strong delusion that has been allowed by God. Not the kind of people that I'm going to get my advice from.

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

All, or at least most of us have been where you are. We've been taught something our entire life and we suddenly hear it's all a lie? A tough pill to swallow. Too many things we were taught as absolute fact that are based on mere assumptions by evolutionists. The young, impressionable mind of a child just sucks it all in without question and it's not until we become Christian adults that we can now question it.

[@shiminadar1855]

Question, why do all the other planets in the solar system, shine so brightly?

[@ii.gondolkodo3169]

"If anything, it has been my experience that eye witness accounts of anything (not to even mention accounts spanning millenia) are absolutely fallible, and don't hold a candle to phenomenon which can be observed by multiple people, verified, and facts which can be proven or disproven, and in which experiments can be performed and recreated consistently to demonstrate results, observable at any time by anyone." Of course, the same is acceptable for the null universe /multiverse/ tale, which is an observable and verifiable fact, experiments can be carried out so that the results can be observed by anyone at any time. Are you using a double standard by any chance? Accepting something and rejecting something on the same grounds is a measure of human characterlessness.

[@georg7120]

What a nonsense!

[@HS-zk5nn]

yes evolution is

[@georg7120]

@@HS-zk5nn No, the old testament is.

[@HS-zk5nn]

@@georg7120 you would say that

[@user-xl2ti1dy2g]

Obviously these people have never taken a science course in their lives.

[@udogadiononiwu5531]

Please write what you know and not what you don't know, because that will be total disinformation. All the workers and experts in ICR, from Henry M.Morris who has PhD and an expert in in hydrology, also studied Geology, to Gary Parker has PhD in Biology with cognate in Geology (palleontology) and many other great handlers of this uncommon institution, you can't just make comments that is not backed with fact and get away without consequences. If you don't accept a scientific fact, presented before you because you don't like the beliefs of the presenter, then get a contrary research and let us constructively determine how true it is together?

[@Hydroverse]

The guy has a PhD. Modern theories have faith too. Inflation. Dark Matter. Cosmic violations of the conservation of energy. Abiogenesis. Oort Cloud.

[@user-xl2ti1dy2g]

@@Hydroverse not everyone with a PhD is ASLWAYS correct. There are over 100 lines of solid scientific evidence that support a very OLD earth and Universe

[@Hydroverse]

@@user-xl2ti1dy2g I wasn't addressing that. You said they've never taken a science course, which is a lie. If you want to disagree with them, then you can just say they're not telling the truth with a list of reasons as to why you think that's so.

[@user-xl2ti1dy2g]

@@Hydroverse Give me a break! Obviously I was NOT speaking about EVERYONE!

[@junacebedo888]

Some of the evidence or arguments here that the universe is young, I have already encounter them in Dr. Kent Hovind videos and debates.

[@Hydroverse]

Do you watch him on StandingForTruth? Question: why do you have 888 in your picture if you don't mind me asking?