Your transition from simulator image to real footage was some of the best editing I have seen! Well done.
@tomsmith20132 жыл бұрын
Ditto! Great vid!
@The_Tangler2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I saw that transition, too. That was cool work from TheFlightChannel.
@rohitsingh-cs6jj2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome
@shawnmccorkle50592 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@shawnmccorkle50592 жыл бұрын
Excellent recreation
@JasonFlorida2 жыл бұрын
10:49 That is the most amazing fade transition from simulator to the actual video I have ever seen! You did a phenomenal job. You keep outdoing yourself. You're videos are really the best aviation videos on KZbin!
@brunoais2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said that better!
@marybarry22302 жыл бұрын
Yes it is so well done! Major kudos! ✈️👍
@pfwww122 жыл бұрын
In my entire internet life! It was a flawless transition!
@davidanderson2152 жыл бұрын
Except for Mentour Pilot - in a different class completely.
@steved06032 жыл бұрын
That was definitively pretty amazing!
@riverwildcat12 жыл бұрын
I grew up in San Francisco and worked for Lockheed ground support at SFO in the '80s. This is an excellent video that shows the Bay Area just as it is. The big problem in the '70s was that the new, heavy 747s stressed out the runways, which were landfill done around WWII. They constantly required repairs, but the problem wasn't being solved. Millions were spent after this near-tragedy to deeply reinforce the runways.
@rstidman2 жыл бұрын
Man, this pilot who was "using the incorrect speed" knew what he was doing. He tried to do a murder-suicide and then he got scared at the last minute, luckily. Or he was on LSD.
@riverwildcat12 жыл бұрын
@@rstidman I’m thinking the accident report is incomplete or fishy. Having the flaps set up at 40 degrees instead of 20 should have guaranteed that the plane got off in time. Much more lift was generated. The controllers screwed up, according to the report, so I’m not clear on exactly why you think it was the pilot's suicide attempt. Also, why don't we know what happened to the pilots?
@johnd53982 жыл бұрын
@@rstidman you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
@davemould46382 жыл бұрын
@@riverwildcat1 The aircraft would have lifted in time had it rotated earlier (i.e. at a slower speed). However the pilot was waiting for it to reach the incorrect and too high VR speed and so held it on the ground until it was too far down the runway to clear the obsticles. Using a higher flap setting means that while it can be rotated earlier and with slower (and so steeper) climb-out, the accelleration during the takeoff roll is lower (more drag).
@riverwildcat12 жыл бұрын
@@davemould4638 Good point. Makes sense. I think a better pilot might have felt the drag and extra lift of the wings and realized something was out of the ordinary.
@RZRDunesandSnow2 жыл бұрын
I actually watched this flight land. After hearing about it on the radio I rode my bicycle down to a park on the west side of Highway 101 and climbed a play structure and was able to see it land. It flew around for quite a while over the bay with smaller aircraft flying below it trying to assess the damage.
@hotelalphawhiskeykilogrunt7925 Жыл бұрын
🧢 🧢 🧢
@T-puma Жыл бұрын
Pretty cool to see such a thing.......well maybe not cool if they died but a rare experience to see
@delta_aviation177 ай бұрын
Are you like freaking 65 or something bro?
@Jayco267 ай бұрын
@@delta_aviation17 Yep Bro
@AaronSmith-kr5yf2 жыл бұрын
Its a good thing the 747 is a tough bird. I've watched documentaries about the development of the 747 and the number of redundencys built into the aircraft. I remember them saying that the engineers wanted an extra backup hydraulic system but the money men wanted to nix the idea. The engineers won, there were 4 hydraulic systems on the 747 and the thought was this flight would have crashed without that extra backup system.
@The_Beast_6662 жыл бұрын
redundancies* use a spell checker dude! wtf!
@galady86322 жыл бұрын
@@The_Beast_666...... Be aware - winner of a Spelling Bee is present!
@riverwildcat12 жыл бұрын
On June 24, 1982, a British Airways 747 flying at 32,000 ft. to Jakarta, Indonesia, Flight 009, experienced St. Elmo's Fire over the whole fuselage, and in minutes, the front windshield was almost opaque and all four engines quit. They couldn't see on radar that a dry volcanic ash cloud had risen higher than they were, and it had sandblasted everything outside, and choked the engines with volcanic grit. All they had for power was the auxiliary power unit and the onboard batteries. Soon they passed through the cloud and miraculously restarted three of the four engines. They landed safely with no casualties. Talk about great pilot training! And fantastically well engineered turbofan engines.
@mangos28882 жыл бұрын
@@The_Beast_666 Like Flossy Carter says: Call down.
@riverwildcat12 жыл бұрын
@Kenji The JAL 123- 747 tragedy resulted when the plane was defectively repaired, after an accident, by Boeing. The engineering in the 747 is so perfect that it's the safest airliner ever made. Boeing had been making them for about 55 years when they finally replaced it with a new design.
@carolinehoward1802 жыл бұрын
Omg imagine having massive pieces of angle iron come up through the cabin floor of a 747 and injure you. Just shocking. Fantastic transition from simulator to actual footage!!! That really packed a punch. Great video as always. I hope the two passengers sued PanAm and made good recoveries 🙏
@arthurambroise78942 жыл бұрын
If I’m not mistaken, one of the two injured passengers had one of his legs ripped off… Also 8 passengers were injured when exiting the aircraft, as it tilted backwards, the emergency toboggans at the front were near vertical and these people literally fell to the ground.
@phils.31782 жыл бұрын
that transition was crazy good
@The_Beast_6662 жыл бұрын
@Caroline Howard Afuckingmen mam!
@stevencooke64512 жыл бұрын
I cannot imagine what you would be feeling. Not sure I'd want to re-attempt the flight to Tokyo right away.
@bltsammich97602 жыл бұрын
@@arthurambroise7894 "Rods of angle iron from the ALS structure penetrated the passenger compartment, injuring passengers in seats 47G (near amputation of left leg below the knee) and 48G (severe laceration and crushing of left upper arm)." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_845
@_Gonzi2 жыл бұрын
Amazing that they actually repaired the plane and it continued service for another 19 years.
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith242 жыл бұрын
Not really, landing gear and skin damage won't normally write off a plane unless it's already pretty old. Landing gear are usually replaced at major overhauls anyway.
@68fmj512 жыл бұрын
Yes, and look at the amount of dirt that was sucked into the port side inboard engine.
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith242 жыл бұрын
@@68fmj51 engines and landing gear would have been replaced during the repairs
@irisfields16592 жыл бұрын
I'd b scared to get on that plane
@irisfields16592 жыл бұрын
Og I would have been 😱
@grommy12342 жыл бұрын
That was a chilling transition from your sim to the actual footage. Excellent editing, TFC! Your sound effect collection must be large enough to fill a 747!
@rubensilva_2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating piece of work with the real footage added. Brilliant job.
@Hawker900XP2 жыл бұрын
The transition from your landing video and the actual footage is awesome!
@theflightchannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It took me a little bit to make it :)
@brunoais2 жыл бұрын
@@theflightchannel And the outcome is superb!
@AnneEloiseOfCNY Жыл бұрын
@@theflightchannel Just watched this; just found your channel. That transition was awesome! Thank God everyone survived.
@videojeff01 Жыл бұрын
I got chills when that transition happened from the simulation video to the actual footage. Excellent job.
@Three-LeggedCat2 жыл бұрын
Pan-Am was absolutely one of the coolest commercial aviation companies, I love the logo and the look
@riverwildcat12 жыл бұрын
They had a very nice employee area for the ground support personnel. Things got chaotic, though, when the ATC people went on strike in 1981.
@localcarthief2 жыл бұрын
I was a fan of the retro Qantas, Cathay, Anz and British airways, but never less, pan am was wonderful
@kristensorensen22192 жыл бұрын
Cool looking but so what? They went bust. The use of their logo in 2001 a Space Odysee was cool looking but a lousy prediction of what 2001 was really like.
@Three-LeggedCat2 жыл бұрын
@@kristensorensen2219 So what if something went bust. That means that it's worthless? Muscle cars are just about completely gone but they were one of the awesomest forms of mobile travel. I can respect the history of the hay day of a major American company. Well aware that they're not around anymore. I value history, history never goes bust.
@localcarthief2 жыл бұрын
@@kristensorensen2219 Pan Am revolutionised aviation travel permanently, and they were the first airline that support the 747 project in the 60-70s. Without Pan Am, the 747 would not be a reality, and the wide body
@Sandrawest642 жыл бұрын
The 'shadow' around the white text makes it so easy to read, no matter the background. Thank you!
@mr.s.m.s91912 жыл бұрын
What an absolute transformation from animation to real footage
@DavidMoviez2 жыл бұрын
The edit from simulation to real footage was amazing!
@elizabethgrogan85532 жыл бұрын
Amazing to see real footage edited in so seamlessly. Great video.
@expoboy52 Жыл бұрын
We studied this accident when I went through flight attendant training with Western Airlines in 1977. The evacuation of the damaged aircraft was hindered by several factors including the nose-high angle of the plane, damaged slides and updrafts caused by news helicopters that caused at least one slide to lift over the top of the fuselage.
@sarahalbers55552 жыл бұрын
Clipper Juan Trippe, named after the founder of Pan Am. Very appropriate. Thanks for another great video. I can't imagine dumping fuel over the Pacific for an hour and 42 minutes in a seriously damaged plane, scary stuff.
@QuarkTwain2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious why that took so long. Is fuel dumping just that slow of a process? They were starting with full tanks, I know.
@abhishekmishra74092 жыл бұрын
@@QuarkTwain yes.. It's a very long and tidious process.. In 1 hr 42 min.. Less than 40% of total fuel was dumped.. . Safe enough to land the jumbo jet... The fuel is released in the form of pressured droplets.. Thus it takes time
@ozone72 жыл бұрын
Who names their kid Clipper???
@ecphorizer2 жыл бұрын
I always chuckle when I read that name as One Trip. Great name for an iconic airline founder.
@User311292 жыл бұрын
@@QuarkTwain yeah they were gonna fly to Japan, had super full tanks I imagine. Sometimes at least back in the day, short high-demand routes would also use 747s just with like 50% fuel tanks, but not here. One of those was the deadliest single airplane crash in history between Tokyo and Osaka Japan. Something like 400 ppl died, but it was just a 500 km trip (6 hours by car).
@logan22672 жыл бұрын
I missed the "almost" in the title and was wondering why anybody had died with such a landing. When I realized everyone had survived it was such a genuine relief. Breathtaking editing work, by the way!
@biff58562 жыл бұрын
The 747 was an amazing aircraft. Triple redundancy. Very buoyant for all it's weight and mass. It didn't want to fall out of the sky like other aircraft. The landing attested to the skill of the captain. One issue however on the 747 was the location of various input switches. The were reversed on the 747 as opposed to the 707, which pilots upgraded from. This incident, in my opinion is more of a communication problem as to the overall condition of the runways. Pilots should have personally notified via bulletins or otherwise. This is where it all began. Remember pilots lives are just important to themselves as are the passengers and aircraft. They don't want to die.
@user-e-idk2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have always heard that the 747 is very agile and easy to fly especially for its size and it doest have the tendency to do a dutch roll like earlier jets.
@billolsen43602 жыл бұрын
Reversed input switches? Dumb move on Boeing's part.
@everettscott47452 жыл бұрын
Wow - 10:54 transition to real footage is absolutely amazing. Your videos with animation, textual information, and music are the very best. There's not enough time in the day to watch all of your content. I've never get any work done. Utterly superb.
@siddharthjoshi52642 жыл бұрын
Dude kudos to the time you take out for the community and make us understand about the real incident through the simulation..That transition from simulation to the real one was so epic..Keep up the good work 🫡
@SOS-School_Of_Survival2 жыл бұрын
Id have loved to hear the voice recorder for that 1h42m fuel dump.
@sawning34492 жыл бұрын
Not very exciting as a rule. DEP could have sent them to a holding point, picked altitude and left or right turns, set the downwind leg length, and let them cycle until they were done. The interesting recordings would have been the calls to/from Company, which we never get to hear.
@SOS-School_Of_Survival2 жыл бұрын
@@sawning3449 i meant the guaranteed blame game that left and right seat had for 1h42m lol
@danajohnson62732 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how many minute details are involved in flying. By not making that small adjustment to speed, so much damage occurred (both with the aircraft, 2 injured, and I imagine some PTSD with passengers.) I have so much respect for pilots after watching these bc it’s not an easy job!
@deepthinker999 Жыл бұрын
How many main line domestic flights happen each year without incident. That's pretty remarkable.
@fosterkennel6492 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this as I was a lifeguard at Coyote point San Mateo and had clear view from the beach to the airport and I remember watching this whole thing unfold
@ecphorizer2 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a vantage point. I recall ages ago on a very foggy day when a JAL aircraft was flying 20' lower than instruments indicated, and landed in the mud off Coyote Point on approach to 01L.
@fosterkennel6492 жыл бұрын
@@ecphorizer Yep I remember that too ,perfect landing just a little short of the runway. And oh how things have changed in the Bay area from what I consider the good old days blessings to you and your family coming at coming atcha from the mountains of Southern Oregon
@dianericciardistewart22242 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS good to hear when everyone survives!! TFC, excellent graphics and description. The transition between the simulated accident and the actual footage was incredible!! Outstanding! Thanks!! 👍✈✈👍
@robertdragoff69092 жыл бұрын
To me, it was a very educational video and it taught me how flap settings and proper flight calculations can mean the difference between life and death. When the runways changed the crew didn’t recalculate the takeoff parameters and because of that the 747 had to make a very scary emergency landing. While the crew was responsible for this incident, I do commend them, especially the Captain for landing the plane without things going from bad to horrifically worse. Excellent video
@davehughesfarm7983 Жыл бұрын
One of the hardest shit landing I ever seen..Must of been his nerves...
@joshthemediocre78242 жыл бұрын
No kidding, i learn so much from this channel and other high quality channels on other subjects. There is something about plane mishaps that really catch my attention so i just love to make my own playlist of TFC videos and let them roll for a couple hours, i watch most of them a couple times anyways.
@leobrouk2 жыл бұрын
Knowing how quaint, by today's standards, SFO looked even in the 90s, I was a little disappointed that the simulator does not have a "time machine" for the airport buildings.
@mookie26372 жыл бұрын
Agreed. From memory, I'm not even sure it had skybridges.
@rich_edwards792 жыл бұрын
That landing, with a heavily damaged plane still carrying 60% of its fuel load, could easily have ended up like the Asiana flight that hit the same ALS mounting apparatus on the same runway, 40-odd years later. The crew messed up big time in calculating the takeoff speeds and flap settings but at least they (somewhat) redeemed themselves by getting everyone back down in more or less one piece, and also somehow avoiding a hull loss.
@potato19072 жыл бұрын
didn't the asiana flight hit the ground after and lose it's entire tail
@rich_edwards792 жыл бұрын
@@potato1907 the main gear hit the same ALS supports which caused it to slam into the runway threshold.
@potato19072 жыл бұрын
@@rich_edwards79 oh i thought the ALS just scratched it a bit but then it lost the tail when the tail slammed into the embankment thingy
@anthonywilliams98522 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know how long it took to repair this aircraft and how much it cost.
@randyswanson69122 жыл бұрын
@@anthonywilliams9852 probably about 20 minutes aND less than 50 bucks
@geoffreyhui8302 жыл бұрын
I was a distant witness to the circling of the aircraft from Stanford University, Palo Alto. A light aircraft flew in formation with the accident aircraft for quite a few circles. This was for the purpose of damage inspection. It's hard to say what the pilots could have done differently with different observed degrees of damage. So the aircraft did not just circle out at sea, it also circled passing over Palo Alto.
@ZiggyDoom2 жыл бұрын
Transition was flawless. You are becoming an expert at this!
@grriceman7822 жыл бұрын
Brilliant to have the live video added at the end. Love this channel!
@MrCrystalcranium2 жыл бұрын
Great transition at the end. Almost unimaginable mistakes by the flight crew. This was the 747 that ended up as a restaurant and then an abandoned hulk somewhere in the far east...Japan or Korea. I can't imagine the physical agony endured by the passengers as the plane dumped fule and damage was assessed over almost 2 hours. One of the injured had a partial amputation of the foot and unless the physicians on board happened to be carrying a couple of syringes of morphine with them, the injured had no relief. In your simulator program, is there a way to configure airports and vehicles for different times in history. The tugs and vehicles don't look 1970 vintage and FedEx wasn't around then...it was Federal Express!
@localcarthief2 жыл бұрын
Someone acually made a documentary on KZbin about this 747’s fate in korea
@MrCrystalcranium2 жыл бұрын
@@localcarthief Yes I remember the interview with the teary eyed flight attendant who was on this flight lamenting over the fate of this plane.
@localcarthief2 жыл бұрын
@@MrCrystalcranium yeh, unfortunately, she got scrapped in the end
@marybarry22302 жыл бұрын
Yes I saw that show on television about the creation of the 747 but I didn't know THIS was the exact same plane that had been turned into a restaurant and then scrapped! What a very sad end to a fantastic aircraft!
@Kennymac82512 жыл бұрын
The software creating the Tugs etc is an addon to Flight Simulator by GSX and represents modern conditions. Effectively you cant change the vehicles but you can change the names and logos that are on them.
@asteverino85692 жыл бұрын
I was 16 and living south of SFO, to the west then. Glad the 747 stayed airworthy enough to land with the great help from the pilots.
@georgesenda19522 жыл бұрын
I was living in San Francisco at the time & this story was huge & people were talking about it for days
@javianjohnson87462 жыл бұрын
This transition 10:51 was absolutely flawless. This is why you're the best in this business TFC 🔥
@donnabaardsen53722 жыл бұрын
Wow. My guess is that pilot was out of a job rather quickly. As said before, it would be especially interesting to find out what happens to the cockpit crew after such incidents.
@hellosiri14832 жыл бұрын
no they didn’t fired the captain and f/o they were grounded from 1month as a punishment
@reganmacneil25782 жыл бұрын
@@hellosiri1483 Did someone say punishment?? Hahahaha! I specialize in punishments. When I punish someone they never misbehave again, EVER!!
@hellosiri14832 жыл бұрын
@@reganmacneil2578 did i asked you how you punish someone? are you literate person? or you never passed 5th grade in your school hahhahaha never brag about your bad side no one gives a fu**k and if you’re so come meet me 😂😂 i will explain you how i punish
@crew-dog26682 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable that FIVE crew members failed to recognize that new take offs speeds had to be recalculated after changing the flap setting. They should have all been fired! Unbelievable they didn’t know their runway was closed either. Landing was terrible; easily could have cartwheeled the plane and killed everyone. What a colossal screw up by the crew.
@marybarry22302 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the very same thing! Kind of like "where are they now" sort of thing! The expense to put that airplane back together again? Incredible!
@mrichards552 жыл бұрын
Those magic words are music to my ears and what makes me happy watching any of TheFlightChannel’s videos : Everyone Survived.
@A1171-w3u2 жыл бұрын
My maternal grandfather Rod Proctor was the relief engineer on that flight
@_Mr.D2 жыл бұрын
Bet he had some stories
@Skatejock21 Жыл бұрын
It is interesting to note that it was not known the 747 would tilt backwards until this accident. Unfortunately this is how things are found out.
@CarolLynnWilliams2 жыл бұрын
"Little" things (and there is NO such thing in aviation) fell through the cracks, ending up as a perfect storm of errors. Including the actual landing footage was amazing !!!
@jenniferjohnston44032 жыл бұрын
I love surprises!! You surprised me by editing in real footage. Cheers 🥂
@anhedonianepiphany55882 жыл бұрын
I just realised that it’s already been said, but the transition from simulation to actual footage was seamless and visually amazing. Your attention to detail is remarkable.
@GarretGrayCamera2 жыл бұрын
That must be a pretty grim task back then to get out the camera, load it with film in the event the plane might crash. I was confused by, "three lengths of an angle iron," I'm not sure what that's referring to.
@jasonking4542 жыл бұрын
Basically, three long pieces of steel. There were probably lights and/or antennaes attached to them at the end of the runway. Someone else might could explain it better than I.
@rayed.rahman Жыл бұрын
woah!! i cant get enough of how the transition went from the simulation to the real footage! been watching the last part of the video repeatedly and still can't get out of it! massive job!
@gregvinson1 Жыл бұрын
Just a great channel. I really enjoy aviation accident videos, for some reason, and this channel is my favorite. Simulation video combined with text, instead of voice, is an excellent way to tell these stories. Kudos as well to how you clarify most of the more arcane aviation lingo so us noobs can understand. Keep up the good work.
@tudorDaDefender2 жыл бұрын
That transition deserves a freakin gold medal,solid job.
@Gema20202 жыл бұрын
Omgg! Didn’t expect the real video is coming!!😩 so smooth!! Happy that all 218 people arrived safely!!!
@loveblue22 жыл бұрын
Interesting, to say the least, that some of the takeoff configurations were adjusted, but not all. That said, AMAZING video!! You outdid yourself with this one, which is no easy feat. That transition of the landing from simulation to the actual landing is just incredible. I subscribe to and watch a LOT of channels on KZbin, but I can honestly say TFC is the one I respect and admire the most. Your work is absolutely incredible. Bravo!
@dialysistechtipstricks86342 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying these videos. I have never heard of so many of these incidences before. Beautiful work!!
@donrudisuhle5152 жыл бұрын
At the time this happened, I had just taken off from San Jose Municipal Airport in a Cessna 150. We were headed north up the bay and were monitoring San Francisco tower over the NAV/COM when we heard the chatter about the Pan Am mishap. We listened to the drama unfold as the crippled 747 headed west out to sea to dump fuel in order to bring the plane into a safe weight to land. By the time the fuel dump was complete some 100 minutes later we were out of radio range.
@sureshnishtala2887 Жыл бұрын
OMG.....that simulation to actual video was one hell of an editing skill...thanks TFC
@blauphus22 жыл бұрын
11:05-Plane must've still been quite heavy, that's one helluva bounce! Hard landing, tyres blown, but everyone walked off the plane. So, a good landing!
@sunshinelizard12 жыл бұрын
Well, except the guy with his leg nearly ripped off and the passenger with a crushed arms and at the back injuries deplaning due to the tilt of the aircraft and the wind. But yeah, overall great that there were no deaths.
@NickKrempel2 жыл бұрын
I like that you left out the intro this time. It gives too many spoilers and I always skip it.
@CPPublications2 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree excellent transition from virtual to real footage, well done! Thank you.
@DejaBluClues2 жыл бұрын
Your graphics are truly amazing and a great transition to the real footage of the calamity that could have been much worse
@PrasenHarsha2 жыл бұрын
Animation to real footage. That’s insane bro. Loved it. ❤️
@enigmawyoming52012 жыл бұрын
Another amazing job! Your transition from sim to actual footage was breathtaking!!!
@feiwong36342 жыл бұрын
I always had fear to heights, of course that meant getting on a plane was a terrifying thing to me, in my life i only have travel in a plane 5 times and i still have fear to it. But these videos are fascinating to me, learning so much about the technical aspects of flying makes me see it with another eyes, the amount of work that pilots and crew members do is immense and of course you expect them to perform their duties flawlessly because people's lives are involved, but you can see that sometimes, human errors are inevitable. Cheers from Spain and keep up the good work!
@AverageAlien2 жыл бұрын
crazy, I have a fear of height but love flying
@oahuhawaii21412 жыл бұрын
@@AverageAlien : How do you cope? Avoid the windows?
@AverageAlien2 жыл бұрын
@@oahuhawaii2141 nope. There is no fear of heights if I can't fall off. There is only a fear of heights if I can fall and have no parachute
@oahuhawaii21412 жыл бұрын
@@AverageAlien: So, have you jumped out of a plane with a parachute?
@dennismalabed23942 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who watched that awesome transition a hundred times? Great job, TFC!
@sian23372 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine being stuck on that plane for two hours, knowing eventually it’s gonna have to attempt a dangerous landing.
@kalliou6up Жыл бұрын
(Real Communication with ATC) Pilot: 845 Coming in Hot! ATC: Roger. We’ll film it
@TheGospelQuartetParadise2 жыл бұрын
I was living in Oakland at the time of this accident. It seems that when the F/O discovered that 28L was closed, and that the first 1,000 feet of runway 01R was closed, they should have immediately re-calculated their takeoff parameters. Since 28L was closed there was no indication of whether takeoffs were being allowed on 28R, which is considerably longer than 1R, and requested that runway if possible. Runway 28R is over 10,000 ft long.
@premkudva2 жыл бұрын
I too was wondering why 28R is not mentioned as an alternative.
@anthonywilliams98522 жыл бұрын
@@premkudva but the FO did request the tower on his own volition if they could take off from runway 28 R. It was the captain who insisted to take off on the closed runway 28 F, and finally the tower told them to take off from runway 01R, stating there would be enough space on the runway for them to take off. At this point there was a communication confusion between the pilots and the tower and the pilots understood that they had an extra 1000 feet of runway 01R to take off bringing the total takeoff distance to 9500 ft instead of the correct distance of 8500 ft.
@premkudva2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonywilliams9852 thanks a lot for that detailed reply. There was no information even on the Wikipedia page regarding this.
@omarhamid36382 жыл бұрын
Best news to read here is that all survive and even better no serious injuries. Although the metal that penetrated the aircraft must have been scary! I always think it’s impossible to get better and better with these videos but you do! As other have said the transition from simulator image to real footage of the aircraft landing is seamless. Thanks and I look forward to the next one! 👏👍
@nenblom2 жыл бұрын
Are you a pilot? You do a great job. Wonderful channel. Very informative and creative. Excellent!
@YouGotPropofol2 жыл бұрын
I'm a 747 pilot. For British Airways. I also served in the RAF during the Iraq war and Afghanistan. Also during The Falklands Conflict and during WW2. I must say this video has some of the best text on the screen that I have ever seen.
@Powdercoreyguy2 жыл бұрын
That comment *Scares me*
@joydasgupta94452 жыл бұрын
Why did the accident happen, was the runway short or Vr was not adequate & less?
@captaind61782 жыл бұрын
@@joydasgupta9445 Although I'm not a B747 pilot, I am retired from the DC-10 and B767, among others. Since Runway 1R at SFO is shorter than 28L & 28R the flap settings used are different. With 10 degrees Flap on the longer runway, the V-Speeds are higher. Selecting a 20 degree Flap setting means correspondingly lower V Speeds. Put another way, V1 is "takeoff safety speed", commonly referred as "Go/No go". Point is to be able to abort BEFORE V1 and have room to stop. So, lower V1 means lower VR, and the Flap settings are increased to accommodate the lower speed after lifting off.
@joydasgupta94452 жыл бұрын
@@captaind6178 DC-10 is a more challenging aircraft all due to it's manual controls & frequent issues that generated on board on many occasions. Looking at a shorter runway the pilots went for a 20deg flap. That's a good decision. Then they didn't reduce the V1,Vr speeds & kept the higher V1, Vr value of flap 10deg.. Other than eating up some extra runway length, a higher ground speed for take off is good & safe isn't it ? One can get a better lift & can climb at a higher pitch rate. Here they kept a higher Vr but still couldn't get a good climb rate.
@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing2 жыл бұрын
You must be 95yo pops
@unknownbritishguy.55382 жыл бұрын
It seems to me a lot of people comment on the video with out watching It….
@davejohnson36842 жыл бұрын
You got that right. I almost rewatched it to see what I missed.
@makebajackson93282 жыл бұрын
Awesome Job recreating SFO, it's perfect. :)
@terryhughes73492 жыл бұрын
Very dramatic edit! Good job!
@patrickyorke30282 жыл бұрын
One of the most fascinating videos you've produced.
@MyCatInABox2 жыл бұрын
10:50 Whoa! What a transition! 😎👍
@carrisasteveinnes15962 жыл бұрын
Amazing to know all these crewmen for born prior to WW2, and even before the depression started.
@WendyKS932 жыл бұрын
Loved being able to see some actual footage. Thanks TFC.
@indianapolisbankruptcy2 жыл бұрын
10:53 that transition. Nice!
@scottm29982 жыл бұрын
The transition from simulator to the real footage was breathtaking. My GOODness.
@barryl.spencer15642 жыл бұрын
It's unbelievable how some of these experienced professionals do not follow procedure regarding check lists and other related items.
@nabeelshaikh11032 жыл бұрын
I got goosebumps when I witnessed your smooth transition from animation to real footage. You are so awesome man!!!
@ericwsmith77222 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting the subtitles on top, so they are not blocked by the banner ads!
@mingology77672 жыл бұрын
The Flight Channel is my favourite!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 you’re the best!!!
@vjfeefeecat5862 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly edited between the live footage and the simulation - I had never heard of that Pan Am very close call - I wonder how they "retrained" the flight deck crew or if they were booted out....
@giselawragg91402 жыл бұрын
Great video. M y Dad worked for Pan Am in the 80's at Heathrow and would have worked on N747PA. She didn't get her Clipper name Juan Trippe until 1981 after the great man died. A good landing is one you can walk away from, a great landing is one you can use the plane after.
@michaelmartinez13452 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!!! This was a story that until now, I have not heard of... I used to work at SFO at one of the major airlines on planes like this & other types, back between the mid 80's to the late 90's... Yes, the 747 was and still is an amazing plane... It does have a lot of redundant safety systems.... And one of the people who commented here (Aaron Smith) mentioned that those additional hydraulic systems saved that plane from crashing, and Aaron hit the nail squarely on the head with that statement... Excellent comment Aaron Smith!!! That is mute testimony that this plane did not become a statistic because of that extra measure of safety that Boeing decided to spend extra money for, to put into these awesome planes.... These planes were Built at a time when the Safety Factors superceded the need for cost-cutting and compressed production schedules.... What a concept.... Hopefully, there will come a time when the upper levels of large corporations, will realize that pride in craftsmanship and engineering will be appreciated and taken seriously again, like it used to be in the past, when Boeing built these amazing planes....
@marcuslambert87222 жыл бұрын
great job you did for the perfect transition to real video.
@AnkitaaaaaD2 жыл бұрын
I can say thanks to ur channel i can learn new things .. m an aviation aspirant student will start clg this year subject - bba in aviation.. i hope i can fly like this one day ❤️
@love2CUsmile862 жыл бұрын
How long does it take you to create a video? How many folks are in your team? Your videos are really really good.
@agathles2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely one of the best channels on KZbin 🙌
@peterkoln28372 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Congratulations.
@narindersoi2 жыл бұрын
I'm a long-time subscriber of this channel and it is really awesome.
@sayujraphael2 жыл бұрын
Damn that transition from sim to actual footage was awesome
@davidhickok35252 жыл бұрын
I’m impressed there was actual video and agree with the other comments; the editing of simulator and video was exceptional.
@briananderson8428 Жыл бұрын
The real footage transition was incredible. WoW. Thanks for this outstanding video. I'm not a pilot, but it's almost inconceivable to me that 5 flight crew in the cockpit (with thousands of hours of collective flying) would overlook what appears to be a most elementary function of recalculating speed and other measures once they knew they were on a shorter runway. That seems like something a basic private pilot would know to do. I guess that's why there has been so much research (and many improvements!) in crew resource management over the decades. Does anyone in the comments think these kinds of oversights would happen today, or have the ATCs improved markedly along with the pilots being much more well-trained in CRM ?
@pissant1452 жыл бұрын
Your editing skills are beyond belief. Wow.
@BsUJeTs2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are incredible especially with that special transition. Good job !
@johngranato26732 ай бұрын
Great video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Pan Am headquarters building, in Miami, is still in Coconut Grove / Dinner Key. It is use as the Miami City Hall. I grew up 1 mile or so from the building in the 1960's. I used to swim with the Manatees in the surrounding Biscayne Bay.
@RandeepSingh072 жыл бұрын
Good Job TheFlightChannel!
@vitsirosh37222 жыл бұрын
Watching footage from a different time is both pleasantly and sourly nostalgic. Aviation at it's infancy. The 747 was a modern dream and the titanic of it's day. Nothing could bring it down it was flawless by design and a revolutionary marvel
@graciegjj2 жыл бұрын
Don't challenge God.....
@thomaswilliams45352 жыл бұрын
"Nothing could bring it down..." - except that quite a few were brought down unintentionally, for various reasons. Not the plane's fault, but still....
@belindastreet1352 жыл бұрын
One of the best you’ve ever made, thank you!
@connectpro12642 жыл бұрын
Absolutely outstanding production, great work and thank you for sharing.