How Pinecone Obliterates The Chapter 13 Mechanic

[@unknownguy6451]

the mechanic for this stage is can your phone survive this stage

[@skywalkerjohn8965]

Strong boss? Nah. Annoying boss? Yes.

[@DrSilvergun]

Cute detail I forgot to mention during the recording 6:18 - With mousse debuff boss 2 shots the tentacles, however his dot is so strong that the tenacle will die before it gets hit a 2nd time, thus wasting that health. Even with deepcolor S1 the tentacle still dies, but if I use perfumer S1 as well the tentacle just barely lives long enough to take a 2nd hit from the boss. If you were wondering if I accidentally used Perfumer S1 to try and heal a tentacle, no I Intentionally used Perfumer S1 to succesfully heal a tentacle :D // 7 OP run: www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Ru4y1W7eP Basically the same thing but with a sligthly diffrent opening and they had Ethan helping out Pinecone. // Not sure I like this boss much. Phase 1 is basically a stage mechanic and phase 2 doesn't threaten your operators much so he's just a big stat stick tbh I like damazti a bit Threatns your defenders Threatens multiple melee tiles Threatens your rangeded ops Does global damage So many things you need to account for

[@Dustfired]

I found the "Payload" mechanic of this chapter interesting and kinda fun actually. It's not too bullshit and you can survive without destroying them. My primary concerns were the boss, the infinite revive casters and the big sword bois.

[@DrSilvergun]

W's crappy ass bombs were kinda funny Funny that on almost every single stage you're better off not bothering with them until you kill all the enemies

[@kyarumomochi5146]

Yeah thats not the case at all. Litterally half of the stages on this chapter force you to use the payload or you are in for a infinite stall lmao

[@DrSilvergun]

@@kyarumomochi5146 yeah that's exactly what I mean "until you kill all the enemies" it's easier to go into the infinite stall kill every other non slug enemy and then push the bomb once there's nothing else left.

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@DrSilvergun Ohh that makes sense. My only issue with infinite stall (and this chapter in general) is that it makes Autos basically useless as tons of RNG gets involved. I once left a stage to farm and when i came back the enemy caster thingy was in range of the only tower i havent destroyed so my defenders kept killing it and it kept coming back. That was a fun 10 minutes of wasted time

[@DrSilvergun]

@@kyarumomochi5146 13-15 being a farm stage is so troll

[@Minoan205]

You know what? I think it's time to build my Pinecone

[@AntizombiRUS]

I love this chapter because it is not Damatzi, my DP is untouched and all AE stages are finished without me bringing a 6* operator (Chapter 12 triggered me to go berserk with 6* and each Damatzi meet wrath of AH squad)

[@kyarumomochi5146]

Chapter 12 will forever stay as my mental trauma

[@clarkmon5285]

Matoimaru sweep!!

[@aname6794]

MATOIMARU SWEEEEEP

[@aname6794]

MATOIBROS WE EATING GOOD TONIGHT RAAHHH

[@horse4113]

imagine seeing this boss on trial and navigation

[@DrSilvergun]

furiously deploys beanstalk

[@Hurricane047]

your videos made me go from being oblivious to pinecone's existence to her becoming one of my favorite 4 star operators and next on my E2 list

[@Victorvonbass]

Very nice. And before Mousse or Pinecone modules too. I guess we will see if those do anything of note in the future, but I feel like it should be a while before HG gives them to us. There are only 15 subclasses without module currently (up to current CN content). Likely 1-2 more off the list for 5th anni too. So we should catch up sometime before 6th CN Anni.

[@vanzeralltheway8638]

Don't forget that we already have a few more subclasses in the meantime. Chain medic, boomerang sniper, primal caster, virtuosa's, and the new (not) AoE guard. (did i miss something?) Also the possibility of the patch only contain the 2nd module set of a class. Its amazing that they've been holding module for surtr and silverash, for so long, lol.

[@adamvegas5951]

I ended up using puzzle and Kiera’s drones to push the bombs I like the bombs can hit the boss too but the fact that he’s just a big hp tank is very annoying

[@ThaDude]

Because the veterans will say that he is a very easy boss since we have a lot of big dps units now.

[@ZeHeavyArmor]

Eldritch immortal swarm, eat nailgun!

[@MarieAnnetoinette]

cutecone supremacy

[@ReiruYT]

If only W made better bombs smh they are too slow

[@ainuruyaqeen1977]

What lovable from this mechanic is that you can deploy the bombs as defender cause they agro enemies attack for just 5-10 dp

[@DrSilvergun]

They're useful for literally anything other than blowing stuff up :D

[@secret7246]

After watching this I feel a bit stupid about being proud about my 4* 12 man clear. Oh well. To hell with hell stages

[@Alexandragon1]

Pinecone is one of the best OPs. Great run! Thx for the video!

[@fujihita2500]

Oh, maxed out Utage with module could tank those stunners. They just one-shot mine lmao. And I'm eating every word I said about boss not tankable for extended period of time on low-rarity. That Mousse split box was pretty critical.

[@DrSilvergun]

outhealing is a bit e2 gated for 4* gravel beanstalk jaye would fuck him up much harder

[@fujihita2500]

@@DrSilvergun He does out damage my Perfumer slightly with mod1 on phase 1 so it was a non-starter in any case. As long as Mousse got her debuff to stick, E2 Gummy could tank him on phase 2. Otherwise, he will triple hit and I have a dead Gummy. I was betting on Ifrit S3 and Arene S2 to clear the blood spawns every time he channels so that Mousse could stick that debuff on him but to no avail without the split box. Alas, since I ran without op limit, it only took 3 bombs to burst him down (Utage chops a third of his HP by herself on deploy). I think it would be 2 if I set up for full burst with Ethan cope RnG instead of leaving Click top lane to push bombs.

[@faeliya1423]

i love mousse

[@Laurentina_enjoyer]

love your commentary with the clears!

[@brazyswaglord8389]

Highmore carried me on the tile right next to pinecone. True aoe is quite valuable and in this whole chapter was nice to have

[@Xzar82]

That feeling, when you have been desperately trying to find a guide, that doesn't require either Mlynar, Ling or some other rare 6-star operators to work... Apparently I should have been searching for 4-star only version instead. I was thinking of using this as base of my squad, but add / replace opetator depending on my own roster availability. Sadly most of my 4-stars are stuck at E1LVL60, so I'm really worried about that bottom lane as Mousse's role is somewhat specific.

[@DrSilvergun]

not rly any big dps unit works there if u kill faster u need less healing :D

[@wimpb]

I beat this guy by wedging him between two Spectres. Lucky guy.

[@racer-fb7bc]

Have to use 3 medic to heal Matterhorn and circle the skill accordingly. It quite fun pushing the cart though, feels like playing tf2.

[@IYosio]

Making us feel like smoothbrains once again

[@kyarumomochi5146]

I love the chapter progression in this game Chapter 9 was cancer because of boss mechanic Chapter 10 was easy Chapter 11 was easy (except H stages) Chapter 12 was the single worst shit ever made on the history of this game that almost made me bawl my eyes out Chapter 13 is easy

[@DrSilvergun]

The hate boner for mandra lmao

[@ComparativelyRegular]

Personally, I think the Ch. 12 stages are not that hard except for H12-4.

[@kushalmazumder6953]

But I ironically enjoyed playing ch 12 the most lmao

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@kushalmazumder6953 Same, everything except H12-4 was amazing That stage was cancer

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@ComparativelyRegular You seriously think H12-3 wasnt hard? Damn Only H stages matter when evaluating hardness as every other stage is a farming stage and now since amplified stages are also farming stages the challenges doesnt end up extremely drastic. I agree that the entire Ch12 isnt hard. No chapter is as they are just farming stages. But damn i have to say ch12 H stages were something else

[@notusneo]

The sanguinarch is such a bullet sponge i actually need two Caster and Surtr to kill him and it still took a lot of time

[@123goofyking]

What i fucking hate is that you're "supposed" to use the bombs to make him more vulnerable. But not only does he destroy the bomb spawner each time he's hit (limiting you to 3 attacks), he's also only vulnerable for about 5 SECONDS!!! Manfred and Mandragora were SOOO much more forgiving. Heck Mandragora practically dies to the pillars on their own!

[@DrSilvergun]

he limits you to 6 attacks not 3. You can spawn a bomb after the first one hits

[@hollyleaf3941]

​@123goofyking 1) each bomb makes him vulnerable for 15 seconds not 5 2) after the first bomb hits him you have time to summon another bomb before he destroys the spawner

[@dr.dejnairb7022]

How long was the entire clear time with these operators? Maybe having Ethan, Jaye or Indigo would speed up the process?

[@DrSilvergun]

20 minutes

[@Junpaidafish]

Pinecone hard carry

[@daebaksiot5154]

tbh this boss is way easier than previous chapter sussy boss imo