How Pittsburgh Steelers created a MESS with Russell Wilson & Justin Fields | 3 & Out

[@mattmatthewmatchuu]

vets used to be a modest income till ppl started replacing children with animals

[@flyingfist1]

30 percent of this video was about veterinary clinics😂

[@mrimportant4787]

You are right..and he seems to be the only 1 saying "something is off with this pricing"..it's crazy what I pay in vet visits in nyc

[@zsandoval97]

@@mrimportant4787so funny because my girlfriend and I were just talking about this the other day when we realized our dog was about due for his updated shots. It is insane the amount of money they are just printing due to them knowing people are absolute suckers (myself included) for their animals

[@Come2League]

Ehh in real numbers it was 21% of the video but not that deep .. John talking facts 😂

[@mrimportant4787]

@@Come2League he's making a joke

[@tynosille6747]

Ape drs

[@ZhengK]

came for sports talk stayed for the pyramid scheme of the veterinary business

[@jammininthepast]

Comment on Vets: took my (beloved) Chihuahua to two separate vets in Denver and received the news that she had days at most to live and needed surgery. Estimates (bottom with no extras e.g. bloodwork) $3,600 - $2,950. Luckily we were leaving for our house in Montana and I called the "good old boy" vet (in Mt. and) got her in the day we arrived. These vets see/do it all....with blood work and surgery just under $400. And for excellent care. She's sitting here on the couch fit and good as ever. Do yourself and your pet a favor DONT GO TO STRIP MALL VETS. I'm sure every state has a good 'ole boy country vet within a short drive. Thanks, appreciated.

[@egorkou15]

“We are not smoking crack in this building” was absolutely hilarious 😂

[@CollaredConsulting]

“I was” - Hunter Biden

[@jeanfourcade]

That's something Chros Ballard, Brett Veach or Harry Roseman could've literally said.

[@Tchanginglives316]

Maybe teams want a younger coach and didn’t want an older Bill. I’m guessing a job will open up next season. His coaching tree is good and they will continue to get jobs rather Bill does or not.

[@B12washingbeard]

Addicted to 3 and out

[@johnmiddlekauff_volume]

Happy you enjoy the show. Thanks for the support!

[@Foozball_guy]

My wife works at a vet clinic and the owner is the doctor and he is doing well in a small town 😂 it’s probably 10k a day minimum

[@roddyb5310]

as a bears fans none of us fans want ownership involved in any of this they have been involved in everything since they took over which is why we been ass, im glad they got the right people in place cause these guys have a plan

[@martinezjames83]

Im here for Vet Clinic Friday chat ❤❤😂😂😂😂

[@SparklyHorns]

pets aren’t people

[@aguy6641]

About 5 years ago my dog that was 16 years old couldn't stand without losing his balance. I was a total mess because he almost felt like a family member. When I brought him to the vet it was terrible because I thought they would want to put him down due to his age. Surprisingly the vet never mentioned putting him to sleep at all and prescribed him daily steroids. After 2 days my dog was walking normally again and I have always thought highly of that vet clinic since. He lived another year and a half even though he was on a daily pill. I fully understand the pain of losing an animal that's close to the family. I hope your dog makes a full recovery.

[@gabea7644]

The dog thing is so real, my childhood dog passed away in may and after 2000 dollars for her to pass away peacefully, it was going to be 1000 more to collect her ashes. Shady stuff going on

[@TheCephalon]

Bill bellichik did this to himself though. There are reports that teams wanted him for defensive coordinator, including Kyle shanahan. I’m sure other teams would have been fine with him as head coach. But he wanted to be the GM too and that’s what teams didn’t want. So it’s bill’s own fault

[@leevancleef358]

We dont know that for sure....and I am NOT a fan of Belichick...but that being said...If I was him and had 6 SB wins....uh...Sorry but you can take D-Coord and shove that where the sun don't shine...my D-Coord days would be over...its HC or nothing and would not need to be a GM

[@hendrix7948]

For everyone sleeping on CHI like Ramsey Bolton said in Games of Thrones “you haven’t been paying attention.” Yes it’s the pre-season and teams haven’t shown anything playing backups well the same goes for the bears we haven’t shown anything either and our backup players have outshined other teams backup players by far and in case you haven’t noticed we have a QB now in Caleb Williams! The bears have gotten better and have a guy they believe in at QB and not some running back playing QB! KAPESH!

[@Sagaofwinter]

Sorry to hear about the pet stress! On another note, no Haberman and middlekauf this season?

[@rafsoverflow]

HAM is over, but they should have a few collabs each year, at least one or two, especially talking about the 49ers.

[@Sagaofwinter]

@@rafsoverflow too bad guy balanced out John pretty well

[@EPICJ0HN]

I spent 3500 trying to say my frenchies life. Ended up passing away anyways, but I don’t regret trying. She passed 9/2/23 and I still miss her

[@Madi-dw9ib]

John saying * We are not smoking crack in this building* made me pop huge lol

[@jedi4049]

Fields need to go to the CFL if he wants to start at QB

[@FuzzyHuggs]

1st - every dog owner MUST have pet insurance. Dogs should be taken for medical checkups twice a year and at least one dental cleaning yearly. Most dogs will need veterinary or hospital care at least a handful of times throughout their lives. 2nd - ER vets do the jobs of four doctors, have to be extra credentialed to help any animal that comes in, work crazy hours, and often pick up shifts to help at hospitals after their regular gig at their practice because there is a severe lack of vets in the US. As you keenly observed, animals can't talk, and animals usually hide their illnesses as a survival tactic. Thus, a vet must run every test and scan to diagnose and find a root cause from only what they can originally gleam through surface-level examinations. On top of this, most vets have to perform the tests themselves and diagnose X-rays independently as they don't have radiologists or a dedicated lab with lab techs. You also have to factor in housing an animal at the clinic, with 24/7 observation, animal cleaning, and treatment of the animal; if the patient were a human and not an animal, there would be nurses to do that work, and a patient would let the nurses know if something was up. Suppose you factor in all of the intensive care, expertise, scans, tests, medicine, overhead costs for the hospital, and additional staff. In that case, an animal emergency hospital is exceedingly priced fairer than a human hospital.

[@ji-inroh495]

That's a great point John. If Belichick can't get a head coaching job, then why should his understudy?

[@RexKwon]

I appreciate your candor when discussing Tua. When things actually happened and are experienced, then let the truth hurt.

[@jparker289]

Agreed about sorry to hear about your dog. I agree to wake me up when the BA ordeal is over. Saying goes something like this: if u have 2 qbs, you do not have 1

[@petercofrancesco9812]

The Steelers are in for rough season both QBs look bad hard to say who is worse. Strange they want both on the roster.

[@jeanfourcade]

As my mentor taught me a long time ago: "Buy cheap, buy twice". Khan and Tomlin thought they were smart acquiring 2 spectacularly discarded QBs on the cheap. They're about to discover the real price of their fire-sale acquisitions.

[@petercofrancesco9812]

@@jeanfourcade "If you have two quarterbacks, you have none.” Did they promise Russ he's starting, yet he's old and washed, yet they paid Fields more and I guess you want to see if you could fix him but what I've seen in the preseason they play the same way that got them cut, nothing has changed.

[@jeanfourcade]

@@petercofrancesco9812 I still entertain the hope that Fields can somehow be "unlocked", or maybe slapped out of his funk, out of that permanent hesitation and second-guessing, by Arthur Smith. Or anyone. But I get your point. Disappointments outweigh performances in his case.

[@cubsfanbigmike31]

$13k in vet bills to try and save my 13 y/or dog. My dog died 2 days after surgery.

[@JamesWalsh-pg1pn]

Can’t agree more the prices for vet is unbelievable and you have no choice you love your dogs!!! How much do vets get pains cause for checkup and yearly shots is almost 400 bucks and ur in there for 10 minutes unreal

[@craigburgess7105]

My sister dropped $5k with the vets for a sick cat. It died 10 days later. She was emotionally invested. Dispassionately one could see the poor thing was going to pass - the vet should deliver this assessment. Balance frankness against profiteering.

[@craigburgess7105]

Not interested in the Ayiuk story - dull.

[@craigburgess7105]

Wilson fell off a cliff - possibly his whole career he was walking along the edge of that cliff but managed to keep his balance for a long while.

[@craigburgess7105]

Excellent pod as usual - great stuff.

[@ronreith5185]

My sister paid over $ 5,000 for her dog to have heart surgery... died 3 months later

[@danfitzgerald9310]

😂gotta love the slow times of the season!! Love the content John.

[@crandonborth]

No offense to your boss Colin… but you’re way more entertaining. Love this Podcast. 👌

[@robriley28]

This guy is really good. He has surpassed uncle Cowturd

[@jacobkemp7050]

Also vet medicine is expensive because their is a shortage of vets. Vet medicine have a high burnout rate with long hours. My wifes a vet the money she makes is good but the hours she has to work and the way people treat her and the staff there is really bad.

[@enorth15]

been telling my kids to be either a vet or a cosmetic surgeon when they get older. All cash, love, vanity and everybody happily pays.

[@Mostradamus9]

Both Russ and Fields are actually very supportive of each other believe it or not but in a competition, u gotta wanna win.

[@forgottenathletepodcast6349]

I never had a dog until recently. My fiance parents couldn’t take care of a little pup and she brought it over. Didn’t know I could care for an animal like I do now but these vet charges are ridiculous. I thought my hospital visits were expensive.

[@erictavares678]

Daniel Jones agents has to be the biggest conman in New York not working Wall Street. What a joke of a QB

[@hume1963]

I love what Tua did. Flores is a joke and Florio and Simms need to get over it.

[@lafan4801]

Vets charge a lot yes since they have a long laborious pipeline to get to their practice. And yet your house, 60k car, and maybe even your kids won’t love you as much as that dog. That said, spending a lot on older dogs is really a tough call. Some breeds have very short lives no matter the healthcare.

[@codytinabannister1336]

Lmao aiyuk "tell me how good I am" this was 100% true

[@viscositybass4369]

Haven’t listened to the whole ep but this vet rant is all time lmao

[@dp2619]

Maybe the old adage, the cost of fixing your animal will never exceed the cost of replacing your animal, is a bit harsh but it sure would put the price of these veterinarian bills in line. 🤔

[@marcosmercedesn]

I will never have a dog after hearing this.

[@lafan4801]

Fields is ok, but honestly Wilson played basically ok last year too, just not good enough for that division. Steelers gave Arthur smith some qbs to work with and yet these qbs are in a division which had far better qbs so it won’t matter who starts.

[@rocketanalyst]

You are taking what Mike Florio and Chris Simms out of context, they never said what Tua said wasn't true or shouldn't have said it because it was not a "nice thing to say", they were specifically questioning the label "terrible person" which is beyond a professional setting. The examples Tua said about Flores never went beyond him in his position as a coach in dealing with him as a player - that's a professional setting and interactions, yet his label extended to him as a person. You saying Chip Kelly is a "bad guy" at 30:02 can still be boxed in a professional setting as in "bad guy at his job dealing with staff", but as soon as you say "bad person" then you take it beyond. Firing and not liking personnel is part of the job, it doesn't make Chip or any one else a "bad person", so if you want to put that label on Chip you better have specifics of what makes him a bad person that goes beyond him being a coach and dealing with staff. People handle firing staff or dealing with coworkers in a bad way still only makes them bad at their job, not a bad person.

[@vinnovationsmedia6984]

Sending best wishes to your little pup ❤

[@matteo4413]

Vets, weddings, funerals, graduations. Probably more i cant think of off the top of my head. They can charge whatever they want.

[@-Thunder]

The Vet wanted to charge my sister a fortune to test her dog to see if he needed some pills or if it was terminal. I said why do we need to test? Just give us the pills. Dog got better and got another couple years. My sister and her daughter were crying and ready to pay anything. I was pretty disgusted by the vet. Very underhanded.

[@petercofrancesco9812]

My mom learned her cat has diabetes and will have to spend lots of money and inject her twice a day. My mom's not sure she can do it. This is common issue where you are faced with letting a pet die naturally or spending thousands and putting the animal through drugs and treatment to prolong the their life a year or two. Its tough decision because we love our pets so much.

[@Alexander-lc7dx]

I told my vet I couldn’t afford it and they knocked off $500 of an 1700 bill. Like are we being scammed?

[@samrotolo7303]

I think and am not probably the only one. Both qbs are going to play for the steelers.

[@The_Zilli]

Regarding Tua/Flores - There's a lot of revisionist history going on here. Remember when Fitz was leading the team and the team was responding and doing well only for Flores to be told mid-season to pull Fitz and put in Tua? Do you also remember how bad Tua performed and how often he got yanked? Do you remember Tua admitting afterwards that he didnt take the season seriously as he should have and didnt even know the playbook? So if I was Flores, Id be pretty pissed too at having to babysit the Golden Child while watching the QB you told during preseason that he would be getting his first shot as a veteran to lead a team before yanking that away from the guy.

[@danshowlund]

Any argument you could make defending Flores, and there’s validity in some of your points, but all of it is negated by the fact that not a single player, other than his current team, has come out in defense of him. If some former player had called Tomlin or Andy Reid “a terrible person” there would be dozens of players vouching for him. But with Flores it’s crickets. That honestly speaks louder than any media generated point.

[@Falloutx360a]

@@danshowlundyeah I buy what Shannon Sharpe says when it comes to the broncos and he said what Tua said is some of what he heard players say about Josh Mcdaniels when he was a head coach and he’s another guy people don’t seem to think highly of as a HC

[@The_Zilli]

@@danshowlund fair point, regardless it wasn't appropriate for Tua to do what he did which continues to show what I've been saying about him all of this time - he isn't a franchise QB or a leader of men.

[@marlynsal]

@@The_Zilliit wasn’t appropriate to speak ab the experiences HE had?

[@The_Zilli]

@@marlynsal no it wasnt. If he had a problem with Flores he should have brought the topic up to him in private instead of blindsiding him in the public and creating an entire news cycle over it.

[@jacobkemp7050]

The reason vet medicine looks expensive is because there is no insurance to cover it. Look what your insurance covers. Also clinics are expensive to run. Have to pay for: 1. The building 2. Insurance 3. Utilities 4. Vet techs 5. Vets 7. Front staff 8. Inventory 9. Taxes. 10. Equipment Vets are making 120k-200k Techs are making 40-60k Front staff is making minimum wage Insurance is ridiculous Materials are expensive Equipment cost regularly over 100k Rent or mortgage on a building is alot Then most owners are vets and are paying off a 300k student loan.

[@TheLILTMAN11]

Hey John what are the commanders doing? Aiyuk coming soon?

[@JohnSmith-ls3um]

Just give me average QB play. The Steelers won 10 games with bottom four QB play last season. Can you just deliver me the 16th or 17th best QBR? Is that too much?

[@AtlantaJonny]

If BAiyuk wears them down enough maybe they trade him to a good team for the money he wants by lowering the draft capital requirements just so they can be done with it. Never underestimate being annoying.

[@mrimportant4787]

Any chance you could expound on Kevin Warren being a 🚩flag?

[@BigBoss69420]

Lol epic thumbnail

[@jddavidson5437]

Throwing shots at Stockton 🤣

[@YghjkkkTyuhj-h8g]

Who is even playing Saturday. You don't know who your starter is? Steelers!

[@eatupsidedown]

Sign on the dotted line or the pet dies. Same feeling I get about Sunday Ticket.

[@bandupchris]

It sounds like 9ers brass calling these meetings to convince him to take less , why the fuck would Aiyuk be the one clamoring to meet with these people? You couldn’t even think of a good reason

[@who0424]

John you should have told me 30 years earlier, I would have majored in vet instead of accounting

[@jeanfourcade]

Accounting still a sound profession.

[@ahmadsalaah9686]

I’ll say this as nicely as I can his distain for certain players is blatantly obvious

[@bracarty1344]

Private equity is buying up veterinarian offices it’s only going to get worse.

[@jeanfourcade]

Steelers will be fine. They're the only team making the playoffs every year without having any QB. Tomlin has reinvented the game.

[@ravage881]

Tua's dad used to hit Him with a belt when He had a bad game. Sims and Florio have had an issue with Tua since He stiffed them for an interview 2 years ago at the Super Bowl. Flores was such a dick that Minka Fitzpatrick asked to be traded, and that is just one example.

[@legitdragon6202]

Like I've said before the Aiyuk trade saga has to be dumbest in the history of trade sagas.

[@curtthechameleon]

The vet, really? I mean, I like dogs, but not really here for that.

[@bouji_]

Justin Fields is not better than Russell Wilson.

[@scattau41]

People really think their pets are their children

[@daa_97]

If Flores had tyreek hill they would’ve let him move off Tua I remember week 18 they win and they make the playoffs and Tua thew 4 picks tyreek hill makes him look competent

[@zackjaco9173]

Dog oncology bill was 4,500 for just a mri in California.

[@joeychick9045]

FULGAAAYZE.

[@danaknight1513]

This is clickbait. Supposed to be about Steelers. Don’t care about Chicago GM or Gametime. Waste of time.

[@daa_97]

Justin Fields is terrible I watched the QB school and that shit was embarrassing as washed as Russ is he’s still better then fields which is sad

[@alogicalperspective5726]

And here I thought I was finally taking a break from doomscrolling inflation/price gouging videos lol

[@darienmarcus100]

Russell doesn’t suck… what? He played solid last season

[@jamesbohm3690]

Then why are the Broncos paying him to play for the Steelers?

[@davecolman9446]

greedy, greedy, greedy. there is ZERO difference between earning 20 million and earning 22 million. go where you will be happiest and where career opportunities are best for you. Christian Wilkins best recent example. Could be a 20-millionaire in Miami Beach... opted for 23 million? in the desert where careers go to die. Stupid.

[@zacharylomuto7108]

The NFL is rigged. It’s just pro wrestling now. Unwatchable.

[@vinnovationsmedia6984]

Do you pet insurance? That helps

[@cortmajor]

Football.

[@bryanlegarretta3404]

Remember when Ryan Poles traded the first pick in the 2nd round for Chase Claypool

[@martinezjames83]

Coke dealer 😂😂😂

[@JDust20]

pet insurance

[@michaelevans-im5fv]

don't even care anymore lol

[@Trill_Tour]

How is it a mess when the Steelers have 2 elite Quarterbacks?

[@JohnnyCdz]

lmao if they were elite QB's they wouldnt be with the Steelers lol

[@AilmanF2P]

Elite what? if bottom 20 is elite then sure. So elite no other teams wanted those QB.

[@nevermind55555]

Elite?

[@MadSUPANOVA]

Befire the draft we said BoNix played alot of football and is steady but scoits still had Drake Maye higher. Clowns

[@swdierks]

Micah Parsons is not elite. He feasts on bad o-lines and disappears against good teams when the Cowboys need him. Please don't make me bring receipts.

[@mrimportant4787]

The vet is the biggest scam going..for some reason everytime i went for checkups it was a minimum of $600 and then proceed to get multiple text msgs saying she is due for another visit inside of 30 days My pet didnt need saving,just a checkup or shots,its a scam and unfortunately it makes me not want to get another dog. They control the visit and pharmacy(medicine)cost

[@kaseemsmith4918]

The falcons will get a 3rd round comp pick if they don’t sign Matt J. This offseason or don’t sign any big free agents which they already spent money this year and won’t be doing the same next year. SMH sometimes these people just get on KZbin talking without knowing details.

[@PestControl-lt2cu]

You don't like talking politics? Then why tf do you do it on pretty much every show?

[@CollaredConsulting]

Calling sports media leftist lunatics detached from the reality of the business they cover is his most common political take he has and completely true

[@PestControl-lt2cu]

​@@CollaredConsultingMeanwhile his state proposed the death penalty for women getting abortions, slashed funds to public school, and people are getting arrested at town meetings for criticizing the mayor. Won't hear a peep about that

[@MadSUPANOVA]

And Fields doesn't have the heavy pressure... yet. Russ knows if he starts falling apart his NFL career over. It's not about Fields should start , its about Steelers have a Superbowl WINNING QB on his last leg... he starts. He's the winner. Field's inly tasted losing. That's tbe only reason to give the start to the past winning vet. If Fields starts and struggles- he's going to be on the trading blocks.. so he should just let it play out. It's a long season

[@timoex]

Stop talking about "Not For Long." Aiyuk has already made more money than 99.99% of humans will ever make. At what point do NFL players seek quality not just quantity. I tire of the talking heads going on and on about how much players "have to make because their career is short." It's nonsense. None of us have guarantees in our live or our careers. And are you going to tell me that 30 years at an average pay rate of the average American (which would equal less than $1.5 million) is better because "they have longevity?" Please.

[@RyanChuck-fz4jj]

Must be a 49ers fan. Were you given a lot of participation awards growing up whilst at school?

[@timoex]

@@RyanChuck-fz4jj I'm a strong capitalist, actually. But even in my business (my own) I constantly do tradeoffs between quality of life and quantity of money. And there are other factors; I might make more money (or save money) in a less desirable place to live. My point is when the talking heads simply talk about making the most money possible, that ignores so many other factors. Like, for example, playing on a high quality NFL team almost surely gives you more options to make money beyond your base salary. Aiyuk, like many in the NFL these days, seem to be stuck on "who is making the most base salary!"

[@donnafarmer111]

Pet insurance is mandatory.

[@tsmguxxi6559]

Both aren’t nfl players .. bustin fields never was he is the worst bust in two decades

[@The_Zilli]

@John Middlekauff - There is a shortage of vets, at least where Im at but yes, the cost that Vets charge is absolutely insane and we all know that they're marking prices upthrough the roof because they know it's essentially holding a gun to our family member's head and blackmailing us to pay the fees or else. I really hate to say it that way but we need to re-examine how vets work as I cant imagine anyone on the Left or the Right on the political aisle would be opposed of creating some sort of system that benefits animals so they get the treatment that they need at a reasonable cost. Right now, this is ripe for abuse. (I think I paid 3500 or so for surgery for my Cat during Covid, so I completely understand where you're coming from and best of luck with the Dog.)

[@carlito_148]

I have 2 dogs love them dearly and pay the vet when needed. Why in the world would people who don't have pets have to pay for my dogs and your cat?

[@TheCephalon]

I have no issue with pet costs. This isn’t health insurance or car insurance where you basically need those things for your daily life. No one actually “needs” a pet. It’s a voluntary thing you take upon yourself

[@jessegiii6737]

Was waiting on this one👍