How President Bush Disarmed Ukriane

[@caseclosed9342]

One thing I like about KZbin is that content creators like CH can put longer videos that go into detail over the nuances of history and help us understand the present better. Too many young people just scroll TikTok and get abbreviated history lessons and then act like experts on situations. The denuclearization of Ukraine is a tricky topic and important to understanding the current conflict. People like to blame recent US politicians for “disarming” Ukraine by supposedly withholding aid but in reality those actions were nothing compared to what happened in the 90’s. Many US officials have expressed regret in supporting the denuclearization of Ukraine, notably Bill Clinton.

[@sabbasdsouza]

Latvia and Estonia better start restocking theirs ASAP if they haven't already.

[@SamtheIrishexan]

They are in NATO and covered under the US umbrella. This would be the US President to put in that situation to be fair. Biden has us in the weakest looking position since our defeat in Vietnam.

[@jpablo700]

They're covered by NATO's nuclear capabilities. Idk if they could economically afford current military spending plus nuclear research and weapons development plus maintenance.

[@sabbasdsouza]

@@jpablo700 If the US can give nuclear weapons to Pakistan, Ukraine can definitely have unclear weapons to prevent their defeat. Vlad the Jealous has no possible path to victory.

[@ronald3836]

@@sabbasdsouza Pakistan developed its own nuclear weapons. They obtained the necessary knowledge partly via espionage. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Qadeer_Khan

[@ronald3836]

@@jpablo700 They are probably party to non-proliferation treaties that prevent them from developing their own nuclear weapons, and indeed being NATO members they should not need them.

[@mahdi5796]

Please make videos about Iranian revolution as well as Iran-Iraq war because I really like your way of storytelling.

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

Correct. History of iran and iraq till iraq Iran war

[@travissutherland8502]

“Like any good documentary, we must go back to WW2”. Fax. Truth of the forst order. Great content.

[@obelix703]

8:48 That local despotism line hits different now that us Americans have reacquainted ourselves with what “State’s Rights” really entails.

[@ThePhiphler]

Given the facts in this video, it would not violate the NPT for Ukraine to actually build their own nuclear weapons. Russia relinquished the right to be the sole successor to the Soviet Union, Ukraine gained nuclear weapons by being a part of the Soviet Union which the NPT allows to have nuclear weapons.

[@whm_w8833]

Man, US did Ukraine no favors Edit: I can’t believe but I agree with Dick Cheney’s periphery strategy

[@williamchamberlain2263]

Weird, right?

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

Ukraine screwed itself when they left the USSR

[@NaviRyan]

The only reason the Russian first idea was adopted is because the us thought Russia would essentially become ussr 2.0. They didn’t realize the full extent of the collapse modern Russia today is shell of the ussr. American’s still perceived Russia as the successor state would be just as powerful as the ussr, and so wanted to exclusively deal with Russia.

[@cap.meruwkateklimana8321]

Only thing that Dick Cheney got his strategy right but never implemented and chosen It’s literally made world better place.

[@DogmaticAtheist]

Channel is so good.

[@vasilzahariev5741]

5:54 A map without Crimea...

[@1967MLP]

Good job, you still got it!

[@__--JY-Moe--__]

nice! thanks!!

[@samuelcarter1276]

Ukraine never had operational control over the nukes within its territory meaning they were essentially useless. Any attempt to gain operational control would be near impossible and would require significant manpower and resources which would be known by Russia as many former KGB assets in Ukraine were still loyal to Russia and as a result Russia would retaliate to any Ukraine attempt to gain control of the nukes by war. Also the solders at these nuclear missile sites were all loyal to Russia and not Ukraine. Therefore it is wrong to assume that Ukraine could have done anything with the nukes on its territory.

[@jpablo700]

Did you miss 14:10?

[@samuelcarter1276]

No, i didn't. I wanted to dissprove the assumption that it was even possible for Ukraine to keep the nukes even if Ukraine had no interest in keeping the nukes. He starts the video, implying Ukarine could have kept the nukes and potentially avoided the current war which is ridiculous.​@jpablo700

[@ronald3836]

Ukraine had physical control over the nuclear weapons on its territory. Disabling the security controls would probably have been a matter of mere weeks if not days. If teenagers can jailbreak modern smartphones and game consoles, then there is no doubt that a country like Ukraine can hack those weapons. The security codes only served to eliminate some possibilities for accidents. And the whole point of gaining operational control over the weapons would be to let Russia know about this.

[@GioCin-hz1wx]

Is there a source on this?

[@jpablo700]

@@samuelcarter1276 I think you're getting "possible" v. "likelihood" mixed up. Sure, it was possible, but the likelihood it would have happened is low as the reconfigurations of the warheads would have been viewed as a provocation by Russia. The opening of the video seems to be more as setting the stage of the situation before he goes into detail of telling this story in history.

[@ds698]

0:05 what’s up with your KZbin search algorithm bud? A lot of weird anime moaning videos and odd stuff lol. lol I’m just giving you a hard time, I’m here for history, clean that shit up lol.😂 All love I’m really just playing I love your channel!

[@beepboop204]

[@theshenpartei]

Now it makes me wonder if in alternate timeline if Ukraine kept them would they use them and that timeline scares me for a lot of reasons

[@RBBeatsChopovski]

nuclear weapons are intended to deter. That's significantly reduce a risk of being invaded.

[@ronald3836]

The idea is that Russia would not have invaded Ukraine because Ukraine would ultimately be willing to use them.

[@dimitriostarsky5845]

Krushev was not Ukrainian -- born in Russia to a 100% russian family, he just has spent a lot of time here. Brezhnev was half Moldovan. Ukraine had "it better" if you are talking about economy, because political repressions were really harsh. So after 1950-s when soviets spent a decade fighting UPA they decided to to give higher priority in supply to Ukraine to keep it more loyal and prevent insurrections/ Similar approach was in Baltic states and key cities like Moscow and Leningrad. Those people knew higher standards of living, so soviets "rationally bribed" them

[@vvvolkeee]

Kyiv, not Kiev

[@Jareers-ef8hp]

😂😂😂 it’s Kiev

[@clementkong8133]

Question is, how is it that Bush was able to denuclearize Ukraine, but nobody ever tried denuclearizing Russia?

[@kirillukin2222]

Damn what the hell is going on in the comments

[@gingernutpreacher]

@3:30 it wasn't a outdated design it was shit design from the get go finished of by stupidity

[@faisalfebriannoor6639]

Well if Ukraine have the nukes it probably hit their economy more than it's benefit and plus Ukraine needs to modify the nuke first.

[@savvas_1367]

i think the current war hit them harder than having nukes

[@GooseGumlizzard]

oh this war is still happening?

[@SamtheIrishexan]

Chernobyl gave the oil industry just the thing it needed to claim that nuclear energy was unsafe. When we should really solve the energy issues by building nuclear plants everywhere. If Africa had cheap energy sources it would quickly help the stable ones lift out of poverty. Anyway its convienent that the soviets were ramping uo oil production and nuclear was quickly becoming the future of energy. I think the Soviets let it melt down on purpose. For both oil profits and its genocide

[@colleenpeck6347]

Don't forget when a tsunami hit the nuclear reactors in Japan.

[@ronald3836]

We know in detail what happened in 1986. No need to suck crazy conspiracy theories out of your thumb.

[@JoeSmith-gj8be]

Chernenko was ethnically Ukrainian, a quick search can actually show this. Even his surname shows it

[@KosherFinance]

He was a Jew❤

[@ohmyvisage]

This was definitely an unusually sloppy video for the channel.

[@type45tomcat21]

Actually I really doubt can Ukraine have the resources to maintain those nuclear weapons even they intended to do so. Using them to trade for maximum benefit I think is a much more realistic option. Btw never expected to see Hololive in the video here lol

[@PopeSixtusVI]

"Ukraine isn't an ally of the US!" Yeah, because we screwed them.

[@jpablo700]

The US/UK is holding its commitment via Budapest memorandum (so far) unlike Russia.

[@gachimuchienjoyer]

Turned out it was the worst mistake in the whole Eastern European history

[@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding]

Omg casual is a neuro sama fan, lmao.

[@CasualHistorian]

I like her chaotic energy

[@steand5406]

Thank God they don't have any, they would throw it away immediately, and then blame the Russians for retaliating.

[@johnnotrealname8168]

Only 48 minutes late and I have been wondering how this could happen. Once again you anticipate me. If only the West worked with Russia.

[@sabbasdsouza]

Ukraine gave up theirs on the condition that they had the path to join NATO, before Don the Con tried to dismantle it.

[@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462]

​@@sabbasdsouzaWe gave them security assurance, at absolutely no point was NATO or EU membership on the table.

[@williamchamberlain2263]

If only Russia didn't try to strongarm Ukraine. If only people in power weren't the kind of people who want to be in power.

[@johnnotrealname8168]

@williamchamberlain2263 When? In the '90s the Russians were begging America not to move N.A.T.O. East in line with the promise made by George Herbert Walker Bush.

[@RBBeatsChopovski]

@@johnnotrealname8168 there are no promises and no agreement on non-expansion of NATO. You are spreading disinformation.

[@spacemanx9595]

Oh this is a vatnik counter programming propaganda channel

[@jaichind]

5:20 Well, if the Ukraine of 2022 would restate this pledge (neutral) which includes not joining NATO then this entire conflict would not have taken place.

[@beepboop204]

lol

[@Seb1l]

"restate this pledge" i.e. Ukraine once agreed not to join NATO and still had conflict yet pledging again will be different?

[@beepboop204]

@@Seb1l its Ukraines fault for wearing that short skirt what else could Russia doooooo

[@johnnotrealname8168]

@@beepboop204 Believe it or not states and people are not the same thing. National interest does indeed include whether someone else decides to join a military alliance. Raping a woman does not despite how poorly she is dressed.

[@johnnotrealname8168]

@@Seb1l When? In 2014 the opposite happened. It was a pledge against the Democratically-Elected President.

[@klown463]

Ukraine has almost no basis for being its own nation at all so giving it nukes would’ve been like letting South Africa keep theirs, i.e., a terrible idea

[@erloriel]

Gee, we'd better inform the Ukrainians that they don't exist. I heard there was quite a kerfuffle there, regarding the issue.

[@Quicksilver1936]

Man, the retardation I find on the internet never ceases to amaze me. This just took the bar to a whole new level.

[@duckcensorship7446]

That statement makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever! 🤡

[@Dantrag123]

The same is true for russians. Atomic spies were pretty stupid people.