How Psychologically Damaged are the Springboks? | The Rugby Pod Ireland V South Africa Analysis

It was an instant classic and a game worthy of a World Cup Final but how psychologically damaging is this loss to Ireland for South Africa?
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0:00 BRUTAL
3:00 Manie's Kicking
8:00 Controversial Ending?
13:40 Handre Pollard Problem
17:00 What Eben said...
19:30 Irish Perspective

[@mikey-vp8xu]

As an Irish fan, Springboks will only come back stronger , two teams gave everything, huge respect to SA and Ireland

[@TheCapone28]

As a Springbok fan, I am so happy for Ireland. This team is something special and without a doubt the very best in the world. If any team truly deserves to win this world cup, its Ireland.

[@luvuyompapa9366]

Well put Champ

[@waynerockman1242]

The boks will come back much much stronger. This time it will be ferocious. The Ireland forwards could not stand against the boks the 80min

[@waynerockman1242]

@@flipacoin3593 hats off to you. Ireland are a really great team. Was a great game

[@user-tx5iy5cg2r]

Well played Ireland…deserved win! No excuses, no whinging, no if’s and but’s, no coulda or shoulda…just v.good! We look forward to the next one…hopefully at this WC!

[@dairet1945]

8:59 Big Jim when a maul hits the deck the rule is that the ball has to be available immediately or it is a scrum to the defending team, if anything O'Keefe gave the Boks more time than he should have to play the ball. it should have been called a scrum immediately as that is the law. Beirne also didnt change his bind so his challenge at the maul was fair enough. The ball wasnt available as the scrum half clearly tried but couldnt get it out.

[@africanmamba1021]

A scrum ??? A penalty try more like it ... 13 collapsing the maul from side as well as lifting the legs of a boks player .... a few meters from the tryline .... penalty try ! And then when it did come to a stop the ball was there to play 1 second after the wistle .... shocking

[@christoduplessis8177]

The ball was on the actual ground which means you revert to how you play a ruck. If an Irish player had his hands on the ball then you have to play it immediately, but not there. But whatever, I really don't care too much about that.

[@ciaranbrk]

@@africanmamba1021no becuase the maul rotated that brought those players inside also when rinarch is digging for the ball he has his knees on the ground which means he isnt allowed play the ball becuase he is playing off feet

[@jamieoshea1681]

​@@africanmamba1021ot wasn't closer to ten seconds. Always lying.

[@josephsweeney4219]

No, a maul that goes to ground does not become a ruck. You need to read the laws.

[@thonnomarshall]

Epic game that lights up this World Cup. Proud of the Boks and all respect to the Irish. Yes the game could have gone either way. The bar has been set.

[@HilareBelloc]

Well said.

[@alanhughes3070]

Andrew Porter, 75mins scrummaging against 2 beast props, and the work around the park, he was my man of the match, and I was a Wendy no.10 😂😂

[@ryanadams8735]

As a bok supporter im not too stressed. We knew in a close game kicking would be our downfall, now we finally get Pollard back getting rid of that weakness. Respect to Ireland, lets hope we meet in the final with a different result.

[@t82277]

If Ireland get there...they wll be better too

[@johnmccarthy9964]

Do you think that if you include Pollard that you're losing something in attack that Libbok brings?

[@ryanadams8735]

@johnmccarthy9964 I think its worth the trade off. We have lots of fast back line players but kicking is too much of a weakness to not prioritize. Its a shame to have to choose since Libbok is a great player but the team has to make a sacrifice for a reliable goal kicker.

[@johnmccarthy9964]

@@ryanadams8735 that's fair. Especially if Rassie goes back to the strategy of the last world cup of win win penalties and kick points

[@williameng368]

@@t82277 'if' the key word

[@Rooikat76]

Great impartial commentary. It was an immense game this weekend. As a Bok fan it hurt, but hearty congrats to Ireland who played their hearts out. Seeing two teams of this quality was a pleasure and ultimately whoever won, Rugby is the big winner. I am licking the wounds of the loss but hoping we may see another go between them in the final. Having said that, NZ, France even England and Wales, perhaps Scotland will make this a steep mountain to climb still and anything is possible.

[@HilareBelloc]

The BOKS played their hearts out too it was just Irelands heart was bigger.

[@waynerockman1242]

@@jonnygeorge7325 No disrespect to both England and Wales but that sounds just a little far fetched after the game between 2 top sides on Saturday. With that quality of the boks/Irish clash honestly England and Wales don't stand a chance

[@hoshpakamies5643]

​@@HilareBellocno first world rich nanny state will have bigger hearts than the gangsta 3rd world state of sa, we just warming up for the final

[@hoshpakamies5643]

Lineouts don't equal points, kicks do

[@HilareBelloc]

@@hoshpakamies5643 yeah. Good one.

[@Happy_Zulu]

Love the commentary and accurate analysis guys. And yes, the game was worthy of a final. I hope our Boks can bounce back, we meet them again and successfully defend the trophy. Ireland are frighteningly well organized and their execution is calm yet relentless and they are without question, clear favorites.

[@celticlofts]

I'm old enough to remember a time when New Zealand would come to Lansdowne Road and they wouldn't even know any of the Irish players names. That's where we're coming from. I guarantee they know every Irish players name now, they all do. It's taken years to build what we have today and if we lose the next game, or the game after that, I won't be broken hearted because I know we are on the right trajectory and we'll get better. Our day will come.

[@bobsyourunclefannysyouraun6997]

We need to get past the quarters or it will be a disaster.because we’re good enough to do it right now.

[@putinsgaytwin4272]

Tiocfaigh ár lá! (I don't believe in reunification I just seized an opportunity)

[@garyoconnor8421]

To me sexton was the best player to have the balls to keep taken the ball flat with what was coming at him his defence was fab and of course his kicking💯👍🍀

[@bolivianbillionaire1349]

true story......tough bastard.

[@rugbyfan7]

The man's composure, decision making and game management is insane...

[@nicholas8390]

Love the impartial analysis. The last decision was frustrating, but not nearly as annoying as our kicking. We know that we could have beaten Ireland if we could kick...but we didn't. Ireland are an immense team, but I think they are on par with us still. Proper test match.

[@ShaunMcG]

Maul ends, ball must be available 'immediately'. Ref ran round it twice

[@kyleduplooy5341]

You Gents are doing the lords work in terms of Impartial rugby chat. Its an absolute pleasure to listen to you, keep it up!!

[@Profreegolfer]

As a saffa I laughed so hard at the “they will miss the conversion anyway” 😂 I have to say Ireland we’re definitely better on the day. Not by ,I h but they dominated the breakdown massively. 12 turnovers. The backs outran the forwards. Otherwise it was an awesome game. I hope we get a rematch in the final!

[@BrettStealth]

Yeah I also had a good laugh, was as funny as heck! :-D

[@pigslefats]

Difference was not having Pollard or Marx

[@williameng368]

Not really

[@Profreegolfer]

@pigslefats pollard might be a better goal kicker but I'd he a better play maker or tactical kicker? Marx absent was probably a big part of the break down losses.

[@pigslefats]

@@Profreegolfer Pollards cross field kicks are sublime. Excellent in defence as well. Also a strong powerful runner

[@SaintArcane]

Sure was a hell of a game wasn't it? Lots of the casual fans I talked to today (here in SA) are just focusing on the negatives, but the hardcore rugby fans that have been watching almost every game of rugby this World Cup thought it was a great game. Don't mind the tunnel-visioned perpetual pessimists in the comments, Ireland are playing fantastic rugby , the ref was fine, and if anything this match has made me even more psyched to see how this world cup will turn out. On a side note I don't think Pollard is the answer. He is not yet test-match fit and doesn't have the cohesion from playing and training with the boks week in week out like he was in 2019. Maybe we get lucky and he jumps straight into form like Kolisi, Vermeulen and PSDT did this year, but I think Libbok is almost necessary for our backline to function offensively. Either way, we will see vs Tonga I suppose.

[@Benboy1980]

Couldn’t have put it better myself! 👏🏻 From England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@SMacCuUladh]

I totally agree, there's a lot of fans saying Pollard would have won the game for SA, but I think Ireland would have won it by more if he came in.

[@dcs4880]

@@SMacCuUladh Nonsense. People have short memories. The last game Pollard played for the boks he got man of the match, when he got injured he was playing the best rugby of his life for Liecester. And it's not just Libbok's kicking that's bad, he is the WORST defensive 10 in world rugby. How did Ireland score their try? Aki ran straight over Libbok to set that up. How did NZ score their only try against SA? Roigard (their scrumhalf!) ran straight over Libbok and scored. He's a great attacking 10 but he is an absolute liability on defense, Ireland knew that and they exploited it, and every team will know it now.

[@SMacCuUladh]

Pollard can have a great match and then a duff one. Ireland will not be afraid of an SA team with him in it. Faf has given away tries with slipped tackles in the past as well, btw. @@dcs4880

[@rorysullivan4913]

Gotta have Pollard. BMT is necessary which he has tons of. Still feel this loss will work towards benefitting Boks. Always Liked the calmness of Ben O Keefei.

[@shakes.dontknowwhatyergettin]

I'd say not very psychologically damaged at all. They played great in a match of next level quality. They'll fancy their chances of beating everyone else and winning the rematch.

[@stephencronin1080]

Yup. Ireland has much more to work in than RSA. Really it's just Pollard starting and we'd have lost that match. Ireland needs to fix it's lineout which is no easy task

[@derickatkins189]

Rematch on the 28ih October --- The final😋

[@richardgrant9916]

As an Irish person I'd suggest they may not feel psychologically damaged at all. That game could have easily went their way, the margins were very tight. If anything they can use the experience as motivation

[@TyronePatOne]

I get why you would say that but the boks were beaten by Ireland before the world cup. How was their kicking then. The bomb squad failed Maybe just maybe there is a doubt in the mind. Ireland know they can beat anyone now and have done. As long as they don't get complacent they should get out the group. Judging by past performances, complacency doesn't sit with this Irish team.

[@Pltjr33]

All credit to Ireland - great win and mental toughness! Congrats boys. No complaints about the ref or tries also. Brilliant effort from the boys in Green.

[@daviddempster8717]

Well done Ireland, I can see this has meant a lot to you guys. As we both progress to the quarters. 🇿🇦

[@quentinquentin6752]

Cheers mate!!! This was a wafer-thin winning margin. Both great teams and on another day you guys win by 5. Sensational rugby form 2 teams who left it all out there on the field!! This is what rugby is meant to be like.

[@user-fw3le4xf3j]

Ireland still have Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿.

[@derickellisster]

The Springboks are not psychologically damaged at all. Was a good game. They like good competition and respect it. It was 8-13. Nothing crazy.

[@Officialyou1618]

….nothing crazy 😂 get yourself checked.

[@kiwiyasss8644]

I agree ... nothing crazy at all mate. They weren't blown off the park. In fact from a neutral they looked the better team@@Officialyou1618

[@fidelcasteroil4662]

I think the fans had more psychological damage than the team. The missed opportunities and missed kicks really got the blood boiling. Really disappointed

[@HilareBelloc]

Judging by some of the comments by SA fans I think the psychological damage runs deep.

[@maitaimik]

The boks wont be too bothered by the result since they know that the refereeing was not high quality, Refs and TMO missed so many infringements and cheating by the Irish medic doping up Sexton and another. Don't believe me ? See TASanalytics for clear analysis.

[@markcourtney6113]

I think the biggest psychological difference will be on the Irish side, lots of belief to bank on if they were to meet the Boks again in the final. They fronted up and won a tough physical contest. So for me, from a boks perspective, no psychological change, but next time they face Ireland they will be up against an even more formidable, resolved team. If the boks can win the quarter against France I think we will get the chance to see if we can raise the game even more now to beat the Irish in the final

[@abongilenonkelela7726]

That's assuming Ireland beat NZ which I dont see happening people are underestimating the All Black's 🤔

[@tangatakailaione2260]

​@@abongilenonkelela7726 Bingo! 👌

[@papachinizo]

Statement game for both teams, by far the best two teams in the World, and by some margin! I think Irish and South African fans have found a new respect for one another, I can't wait to do it again in the final!!

[@gordondarker4073]

Bokkes like the all blacks only respect teams that beat them ,and that's why they both respect us now

[@ronanmcnamee2008]

Do you think both teams are much better than France and New Zealand, I hope your right but wouldn't have thought either team was much better,

[@TheLinzitoPodcast]

As a Saffa, as much as I wanted us to win, I'm glad we lost. I think it humbles us a bit since we now know there are things that we need to work on. Had we won the match with our mistakes I think it would have gone to our heads, we lost the only game we could lose

[@Benboy1980]

I’m English, and I can assure you, the Boks will simply take this on the chin and come back even tougher. Don’t forget, this is a team that have won every final they have been in the WC. There is no way in hell they would roll over in a Final. But you gotta hand it to Ireland, massive confidence boost for those lads

[@EnricoduPlessis]

The best comment here and 100% spot on.

[@africanmamba1021]

Benboy knows ! He knows

[@johanbezuidenhout2919]

Agree with You 100 % These guys did not realise the hurt AB team are waiting for them Good Bye Ierland

[@danboruchowitz9803]

Exactly. World cups are never won in the pool stages. Big win for Ireland, will give them confidence but this isn’t the final. Sterner tests to come for both teams.

[@SuperSpindoctor]

Would be a cracker to have Ireland and SA again in the final... Ireland would never be as bad again. They let SA back into too easy with the line-out... I would back Ireland again. They have an ability to adapt on their feet without the need for flashing lights from the box, they have more leaders across the 23 then SA and a fitness level above the rest.... Ireland are not 100% happy with that performance either.. just so happens their underperformance is better than SAs

[@clydebear6914]

Great discussion lads, but one thing I'd like to point out...one of those missed SA kicks lead to their try, so is that really 11 points left out there?

[@ruod5921]

Facts

[@rugbywatchesgaming4048]

Ok 8 then

[@ruod5921]

@@rugbywatchesgaming4048 8 imaginary points?

[@clydebear6914]

@@rugbywatchesgaming4048 Ireland kicked for the corner 3 times too, so we could have had 9 points from them. Basically, if me aunt had balls she'd be my trans Uncle 😉

[@jamieoshea1681]

And two were in their own half. So it's no where near 11 points

[@ChristopherFawbert]

A fantastic game of rugby.. low scoring but so intense and either side could have won it… Ireland did… really well done to them… hope to see you guys again in the final.. (proud Saffa)

[@matthewbull6102]

It's quite simple - as a Springbok fan - the team that executed best won the game. Across all phases. Great game. Ireland deserved winners. Proud of how South Africa played.

[@hpmmiggie]

For a change I thought our fans (Boks) were really graceful with the defeat. When a game was played so well, makes it difficult to poke at things that didn't have the right shade of green. :) -boks to bounce back

[@HilareBelloc]

Some have been. A lot of other not so much.

[@gizmoza]

@@HilareBellocisn’t it normal for fans to be different? Pretty sure it is

[@jamieoshea1681]

Ye just haven't I'm afraid. And I'm sorry to say, ye usually aren't .

[@hpmmiggie]

To the 2 fellas that has suffered so dearly by that lack of grace provided by the bok fans. Chin up, your team is doing all right. No need to feel so sorry.

[@zachthornton8337]

Love Rugby Pod. Keep up the good work guys!

[@daryl9214]

Disappointed we lost, but my god, that was some kinda test match. One of the best I've seen in a while.

[@bernardbarry447]

James Lowe was special. Haven’t seem much of Ireland till this WC but he did everything right. Proper footballer, NZ builds them right.

[@LeinsterExile]

James Lowe was born in NZ but built in Ireland!😊

[@w00000]

Awesome as always!!! Thanks guys! Loss was a blessing in disguise as SA will have a chance to rectify their mistakes and avoid New Zealand as a bonus! Boks will be tough to beat.

[@mitch2924]

As much as it would have been great to put an end to their unbeaten run, the AB are our Achilles Heel so avoiding them could be good.

[@w00000]

@@mitch2924 💯

[@garyoconnor8421]

Rassie plan to lose 😅

[@craigmorgan4676]

Everything firing, boks almost impossible to beat atm!Go bokke!👊💀🦾🦾🦾🇿🇦

[@johnmcintyre800]

You are getting to cocky again last week ye were going to mush lreland Now ye think france will be a walkover

[@jsadendorff]

As a Saffa, I don't think the Springboks are as good as everyone seem to think they are. From the start of the match I felt the Irish were dominant. We never got into our rhythm and the bench split didn't really benefit us. Ireland are the clear favourites to win this tournament. If they win they wouldve taken out every single top team in the world, plus have a 20 game winning streak. The reverence for the Boks seem to come from our recent game against the All Blacks. People forget that we lost to them badly in Auckland earlier this year, plus we lost to the Aussies last year, plus we havent beaten Ireland or France in a very long time. This World Cup is going to Ireland or France

[@danglybit1]

my surname also ends with dorff and I also agree...We are not as grand as we think!...Well done to both teams for making it one of the games of the tournament...My heart would love Scotland to win...otherwise Ireland ...French public too much like ours.

[@garydonlan7869]

Yeah, your lineout defense makes up for a fair bit. Certainly Ireland's attacking play,accuracy & kicking game are clearly superior and came out on top at the breakdown on Saturday imo. Still would be nervous facing the Boks again

[@kevinmcguinness1113]

Brilliant game, one of the best I've ever seen. Congrats to both teams, a game like this is a big win for rugby. SA gonna adjust your game plan to try to fix some of the things that went wrong. Personally, I don't think Pollard is your answer. Might solve the kicking issue, but IMO, Libbock is a better all-round #10. You might move away from the 7:1 split and maybe go towards more of a running game. I was very surprised that neither Mapimpi nor Le Roux played this time. They add a whole different dynamic to your attack, that I think we would really struggle with if we were to meet later on.

[@jsadendorff]

@@kevinmcguinness1113 Pollard would solve some of the kicking woes but he is not match fit. I thought Manie has always been average, at the Bulls and also the Stormers. A guy like Goosen would've been a better second flyhalf. If I was Rassie I'll add Vermeulen to the starting line up, and Le Roux must play a role as our attack hinges a lot around him.

[@kevinmcguinness1113]

@jsadendorff yeah, quite a few options to change things around, each of which would mean a different type of game to the one at the weekend, which could've easily gone either way. We (Ireland) would need to be able to respond to the game as it unfolds at the time, but I believe we have the depth of squad to tackle it, whichever way it develops. We can't rely purely on being reactionary to a Boks game plan though, and can't let the Boks dictate the shape of the game, like they kinda did a bit with the 7:1 bench split. We would need our own game plan from the outset. Personally, I don't want to think beyond the NZ game at the minute, if we manage to get past Scotland and NZ get past Italy, that is.

[@troytempest9729]

I love Goode's comment talking about goal kicking - "just give it to Handre Pollard, he can play hooker as well"! Brilliant!

[@juannel3303]

As a Bok supporter i have to admit the last line out throw was skew!🙈

[@gideontladi]

Well done to Ireland. Proud of my Boks. They did keep Ireland in the game though and credit to Ireland for staying in it. It was a truly great match.

[@LeMerch]

Ireland turned down 5 easily kickable penalties, showing South Africa respect that we want to play your game. I was quite surprised when you guys went for the posts instead of the corners. That’s when I knew we had you guys properly rattled. Johnny would have slotted over 15 points but we didn’t and beat you playing physical right. I think if we meet again, and we decide to kick all our penalties… different game.

[@gideontladi]

@@LeMerch You see this is why RSA+NZ have won 3 WC each and you guys none so far. That is weak analysis of why Mr Sexton did not go for poles. There are 3 distinct reasons. The fact that you come with that reasoning shows that you are believing your own press clippings too much and not accessing the game clearly. I will give you some time to think about those three reasons why he went for the corner. Analyse the game not press clippings. Shallow analysis my friend. However, I understand you are not used to winning thus you lack grace. Look what the Boks did after the game for your team... clapped them off the field. I doubt your team could do the same... we value grace and honour in the game. Your team, media and fans mostly lack this...unfortunate. Lastly, my initial comment actually gave IRE credit. Yet you had to be that guy of course. Unsurprised.

[@ruod5921]

​@@gideontladihaha your comment must be a joke surely. SA fans are known to be up there with the worst when it comes to their team losing so please pipe down you fool

[@Sean-pm2vd]

​@@gideontladiI find it funny that you said he has to be that guy while you sound salty as fuck. How in gods name did you come to the conclusion that Ireland aren't used to winning when they are on a massive winning streak which includes beating the Boks afew times and also NZ? Even South African pundits gave them serious credit for that. South Africa lost what was a great game. They don't need to hang their heads because it could have gone either way. You should be proud, not salty.

[@jamieoshea1681]

​@@gideontladinothing but hypocrisy, how stereotypical

[@uniquehandlebecauseYTsaidso]

Great analysis from the boys as always. As a SA fan I think they have to start Mannie in QFs. Pollard has to play against Tonga for the first half. He needs time to get back into the game. That time will help show us if he is up to fitness and can hang. Siya did it and its definitely possible for Pollard to hang with the rest of the team. When we hit the QFs Mannie starts at 10 and Pollard is on the bench. Take a 6-2 split. Cobus and Pollard. Let Mannie push the team fast and hard to pressure France. Move into the second half and swap out the forward squad. If they can get points early and maintain pressure in the breakdown (by going back to two players on the breakdown) then they can swap Pollard in around 50 - 60 minutes. The forward pack can get penalties out of France and hopefully Handre can slot in the points. Fingers crossed!

[@philipbritz3485]

Irish and Boks have set this RWC standard. Any other team matching this standard or improving will deserve the title. Still many contenders it's far from over.🎉

[@riyaadrhoda3990]

Psychologically damaged? Not a chance. If there is one team that will be motivated by the loss it will be the Boks. Sometimes you learn more from a loss than a victory. The Boks lost to the All Blacks in 2019 in the pool stages and eventually went on to win the world cup.

[@jzkramer]

The Kiwis and Aussie in the backline were the difference, there was more of them than Irish!

[@mclovin5976]

What a stupid comment.

[@Canvashed]

Sure beats playing for Aus and Nz at the minute.

[@BrendanDufftronic]

Who's the Aussie you're on about?

[@Canvashed]

@@BrendanDufftronic think it's Hansen.

[@BrendanDufftronic]

@@Canvashed that's what I was thinking, but Hansen is Irish. Doesn't sound Irish and didn't grow up in Ireland, but he's an Irish citizen.

[@geoffnelson6756]

The game lived up to the hype, both teams really wanted this one, not only to top the group, but as a measure of superiority. Actually think it will make the boks more determined, but if they meet again and Ireland still have essentially their no.1 squad, Ireland have easily fixable issues, the boks will bring the same power and intensity, but Ireland just need ball in hand in the opposition half.

[@user-jj7pr2uv8b]

I was really impressed with Ireland, on a different day South Africa win this game. The fight and passion the Irish showed is why I love Rugby. Lowe was quality, so pumped up for the game and was proper on it. Great game! look forward to the knockouts. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏉

[@RikiLouw69]

Psychologically? Here you are talking about a team who lost their first game in the 2019 world cup and still won the world cup, a team who went 1-0 down in a Lions series, with limited preparation due to COVID lockdown restrictions imposed by the government and still won the series. If anything this team will be more motivated and so much better than they have ever been. It was little errors and obviously 11 points missed from the tee that cost them the game. They dominated Ireland in almost every department. This team has showed that they are able to fix their small errors very quickly. Let's see who wins this tournament. I am more confident that South Africa will win this tournament than what I was before the Irish game. Save this comment.

[@Benboy1980]

Ive gotta say (as English) that the route to the final for SA in 2019 was much easier. However…this Bok team seem even stronger and more prepared than 4 years ago. 6 months prior to the ‘19 WC they were written off. But I will say that this WC is thrilling because the toughest teams are all going up against each other early on. It’s not always fair, but that the way the cookie crumbles. If by some miracle we get to the final, you know having the easier draw would certainly have helped. I reckon each squad has 2, maybe 3 big games in them in this tournament. It’s so attritional and brutal, it’s basically who can hold out the longest without losing all their players to injury! If SA play France I will be on the edge of my seat, and I couldn’t say who I would want to win more 😂

[@ricardomoolman1176]

​@@fallschirmjager0000 bro Their linouts were stolen; clearly you don't know rugby

[@bigmac201]

Irelands conditioning is incredible and underrated. Might play it's part if they got to a final. Everyone talking about Boks kicking but Ireland too made many mistakes so alot they can address too.

[@masterq2.033]

Both teams left points out on the field.

[@Battrs]

They’re over hyped. Boks will destroy them (with a kicker) if they make the final..

[@bigmac201]

@@Battrs said every Boks fan everywhere

[@jamieoshea1681]

​@@Battrsyou've said similar last time, can you lot know learn a bit of humility. Ye are a pathetic fan base.

[@trianglestop]

Hats off to the insightful and unbiased commentators. Very few NH “experts” really get to the nub of what this team is about and the superficial cliches can be boring if not sickening. But Rugby Pod gets it. So does Eggchasers. The loss will have done more good than harm. This is what the Boks needed to get their backs against the wall. The favourites tag was a problem for this team. The tournament is still wide open and I’m sure there will be a few twists to the tale before we get back to post RWC normality. Respect to Ireland, but hoping that Scotland gets their win for Jim’s sake.

[@loughrey101]

They said coming into this game that they were going to show Ireland what they're made of after beating them in November but it didn't happen. Ireland have beaten them 4 times in a row now so it's not a once off. People talk about South Africa's kicking issue but forget that Ireland weren't even at their best in that game. They're still rusty as England was the only tier 1 nation they played since the Six Nations in March, so were far from their best in that game and so they're only going to get better from the experience against South Africa and Scotland where they'll become more battle hardened abs cohesive as a team. South Africa came into it with the advantage of coming off the back of the Rugby Championship just 2 months ago and having more challenging opposition in the warm-ups to get them battle hardened and so their team had more recent game time together to build cohesion. This Irish team also played 3 games in a row so didn't have a chance to rest at all. So Ireland came with a number of disadvantages and what we saw was far from Ireland's best, where their lineouts were malfunctioning and they were not able to get into their usual rythem as players are still trying to click with each other as they haven't had much game time together in the last 7 months. South Africa wasted a lot of points with the kicking issue, but so did Ireland with their lineout problems and lack of attacking cohesion that they're famous for. Another issue I have with the kicking is that kicking points is only possible if the opposition concede penalises within a kickable distance and if relying on the opposition to concede those penalises is the only way you can score points and won games, that's a bigger issue than not having a good kicker. South Africa's attack looked rather blunt against the Irish defence and never really looked like they were going to break that defence for most of the game. As with the November game, it all came down to kicks and that should be a concern because if Ireland can reduce their penalty count, which I believe they will as they build up more game time and cohesion from playing top Nations like Scotland and New Zealand, that eliminates Pollard's impact on the game to get points from the tee. You can't win a World Cup by hoping the opposition will give you enough kicking oppertunities because that doesn't work with very good teams. You need to have a game plan that involves breaking the opposition's defence and scoring tries, South Africa didn't look like a team that had such a strategy against Ireland or Scotland. When you look at it, Tonga scored the same number of tries against Scotland as South Africa managed, that's a problem for South Africa.

[@danielmacdonald721]

Manies kicking and ball handling was shocking. The penalties they conceded were embarrassing and I actually think the boks weren’t aggressive or physical enough

[@CouncilofOneElectronic]

The lineout throw from Deon Fourie before the maul was definitely not straight. Should have been a free kick to Ireland.

[@ruanL4162]

Great game from the 2 sides. Would say SA have a bit more options now that Pollard is back. Would say one option is put Pollard on the bench and have Libbok start so they can go for touch in the first half and then get Pollard on to go at goal in the second half. Sure Pollard is not a 100% kicker but he is more consistent. I'm not raving about the last maul of the game as the ball has to be produced immediately and it did take some time.

[@maxfortuin5359]

We have weaknesses as springboks but we can only get stronger this team is what we been waiting for let's play for AFRICA UNITE 🇿🇦❤🏉

[@darrenbyrne5465]

Watch the end of the maul, South African player arrives, he goes to his knees to crawl in and get the ball, so either the ball wasn't available to play immediately or he's off his feet playing it which is a penalty. O'Keefe got it right to call it.

[@cashel77]

Two guys off their feet handling the ball - the SA 9 and whoever was lying on the floor handing the 9 the ball!

[@notenoughstones3873]

You could also go back further and penalise Bundee for clear side entry collapsing the maul. Ref however is not usually blowing those at the death and its swings and roundabouts with other calls in the game anyway. SA had many chances before to win and didn’t (two 5m scrums on Ireland line not converted is a clear example). Ireland took their chances when they got them and therefore deserved the win. Missed kicks etc made some difference for sure but really only 2 kicks out of the 4 missed should have been kicked. Might have changed the last 8min or so if SA were in front of by a point or 2 as Ireland would be chasing the game instead of SA but can do what ifs all day long. Overall disappointed, not by the performance, but some of the tactics were strange (going wide too early with isolated runners, kicks for goal from over 50m, etc). Game could easily have gone the other way. Would rather lose this one against Ireland than the final 😉

[@theroogie]

O'keefe had a good game but there were a few ropey calls at the breakdown and the last call wasn't a good one but most of the game he was really good and the game flowed well. We could have won it in the end. Springboks aren't worried about just losing a game by 5 points that we could have won. Luckily it gives us a slightly easier road to the final (also not a given). Don't want to take away from Irelands win but the teams are evenly matched. Springboks were far from dominated and both teams played well and have things they can improve on.

[@connorpatterson3503]

The law states the ball must be available immediately from the maul collapse,and it wasn't. So it was a turn over.

[@peadarr]

The maul went down and he gave them 5 seconds to get it back. That’s bang on standard, it’s just that you saw the ball come out right as he blew the whistle that it looked quick

[@quentinquentin6752]

Even if you get the try you only draw because your guy couldn’t kick snow off a roof!! But i suppose in your mythical world where the rules dont apply to SA and the maul is allowed to continue for another 20 seconds until you set it up for your try your fly half defies all expectations and nails the conversion!! LOL 😂!!! Do you do standup?

[@theroogie]

He was on the wrong side of the Maul to see the ball. I’m not saying we deserved to win, my point is as stated, this game could have gone either way. What happened has happened and it is what it is

[@truthfinder7064]

​@@connorpatterson3503besides blowing the whistle pre maturely. There are 2 blatant penalties in last maul. Number 4 Ireland offside from start of maul. And Aki collapsing the maul is second penalty.

[@jacquesmalander1320]

Oaks what a great podcast!! Honest, real and funny....you boys should conference in Wildcard it'll be the best pod....

[@stona9222]

Did the Boks test the water by not kicking for the corners to do the driving maul? I was surprised to see they went for poles all the time.

[@waynelackey9412]

SA never shows there real hand that's said enough, remember SA Needs something the rugby world needs to talk about .2019 it was fafs box kicks ,kicking ball possession away then quarter finals Japan SA hammered them and that final 😅,the same this here 2023 kicking for polls on any other day They would've gone for lineouts ,SA wanted to test Ireland in different places of the game for when they meet them in the Final,just love SA coaching staff

[@greenplasticgun]

As damaged as they were when losing to NZ in the pool stages of 2019. Zero.

[@brianhourigan]

The Handre Pollard situation is a conundrum - the current Springbok attack is built around Libbok so taking Libbok out for Pollard will stunt their attack especially since Pollard isn't fully match-fit or up to speed due to injury. It's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.

[@sirmurf]

It was a game where every single moment was key, every kick, every pass, and dear god the intensity and tension at every set-piece. This is a game that cannot be defined by statistics.

[@joelyons886]

Think even though both teams threw the kitchen sink at one another there were elements of the game that certainly were held back or "changed" most notably Irelands lack of taking the points on offer and going to the line. So much talk of the Boks missing their kicks but not mentioned was Ireland NOT TAKING theirs when in KO Rugby that would not be the case you can be 100% nailed on that in a 1/4er Ireland will be putting that ball on a T and taking the 3 points all day long. That could have had a massive effect on how the Boks played as Ireland could have been a few scores up on the Boks also Ireland were putting down a marker and line in the sand to the Boks and that was over physicality, Ireland have been bashed with the stick of "oh they are a team that gets beat up" this was Ireland going for lineouts and facing physicality with physicality for me THAT was psychologically the biggest plus and negative respectively for the Irish and Boks from this game, Ireland have taken away that air of invincibility that the Boks have over other teams that we are bigger we are stronger we are more physical... IF Ireland and the Boks play or go again in the final you may be rest assured that there is going to be a different game plan and what Ireland have shown time and time again is that they are a team that adapts and knows how to figure things out when shit hits the fan... Can the Boks say the same...

[@HilareBelloc]

Well said. Boks going on like Ireland didn't win rather the boys lost. 😂

[@daviddempster8717]

​@@HilareBellocA quick glance at history will tell you that this means a lot to you guys. And as sarcastic as that may sound it is just that way. It was a good match, small margins and close. There was no dominance. Just a win in an irrelevant pool match.

[@LeMerch]

@@daviddempster8717it wasn’t irrelevant you clown 😂

[@HilareBelloc]

@daviddempster8717 yeah sure. You got beaten. We didn't just "play our hearts out." You played your hearts out too, and we beat you. Our hearts were bigger, and that's the main thing to take away from this.

[@peterlangan1181]

@@HilareBellocThat’s not true, many Bok fans have congratulated Ireland on their win and almost universally it’s been acclaimed as a great match. It takes two well matched teams to make a great contest. So QED neither side dominated, and it happens it was Irelands night. The massive Irish support also must have helped…..home game almost. I am a Bok supporter and would be happy if Ireland won the World Cup, other than if you are playing us because it would be good for world Rugby and Ireland are very very good at the moment.

[@Farzocalypse21]

17.d - "A maul ends unsuccessfully when The ball-carrier goes to ground and the ball is not immediately available." The ref was right to call it when he did according to the rules of the game. His job is not to wait until the ball is available, the rules clearly state that if the ball is not IMMEDIATELY available after going to ground it is scrum defence. If he had waited for them to eventually dig it out, it would have been poor reffing

[@connorpatterson3503]

Facts

[@bernieone1]

Ben O'Keefe was on the side the ball came out when it immediately fell. No ball was immediately available. He proceeded to move around to the other side and still no ball immediately available. There's no argument here.

[@theofilusbouwer3430]

As bok fan game was lost from the kicking tee Long before that maul ever happened 😂😂 20% kicking record .

[@richardhowland7534]

Number 4 was coming in from the side, wrong side of the mall and the mall was going forward... ball was available , he had to pull it out, thats all

[@Farzocalypse21]

@@richardhowland7534 Beirne (the irish no 4) clamps onto Kleyn the second the ball comes down. He never changes his bind as he ends up in the middle of the maul. This means he is legal to be there. After the maul collapses, O'Keefe looks desperately for the ball, has time to shout "where is it?" and runs round the other side to see if it is there. He does everything he can to give SA the chance to present the ball immediately. If a player has to "pull it out" it means, by definition, it is not being presented. He made the right call. If you want to gripe about something, Aki looks to join the maul from an offside position, but that's just the way it goes. They also missed Hansen being taken out off the ball when he would have tackled an isolated SA player under their own posts. This is what happens. As @theofilusbouwer3430 said, SA los the game off the tee. Even if they had scored this try, there is a pretty good chance they would have missed the conversion anyway.

[@michaelguest4247]

Goalkicking is the one area of concern for the Boks. I think the importance of goalkicking and keeping the scoreboard ticking over is when you look at both England and Wales. Whether it's George Ford and Farrell for England or Biggar and Anscombe for Wales, the pressure a great goal kicker can put on an opponent by continually making kick after kick is enormous. It is the one thing that was not mentioned as a deciding factor in Australia having a catastrophic second half against Wales. Sure it's only three points but when you are potting kick after kick it adds up. Suddenly you as a side are faced with trying to make up two or three converted tries. It changes what you can do if you fall behind by a big enough margin.

[@johnmcintyre800]

The way around that is simples have the rest of the team cross the line for tries of win pens In more kickable position at least give him more practice SIMPLED

[@nicholas785]

1. Kolisi, Bongi, Eben will stay on longer in knockouts 2. Pollard, if fit enough and can get some form off kicking tee against Tonga, will play 10 and get % up to 80% - big if though 3. Vermeulen off bench in knockouts to add experience once Siya, Bongi come off. Keep Eben or Mostert on for whole game for experience / game management Great pod as usual boys - thoroughly enjoying it!

[@dankemp4738]

It pains me to say, but as a Englishman who really wants to see an Irish v France final, sadly it will definitely be south africa that lift the trophy again this year!

[@StephenG-kw1lp]

As an Ireland fan. There's nothing wrong with that. I love watching South Africa play. They're the defending world champion, after all. I would be immensely proud if Ireland make a semi, though, break the quarter final curse.

[@eamonkelly36]

Ireland played bad still won u cant beat the irish😢

[@nepiahemopo1702]

And Ireland vs ABs? Got a prediction on that?😮😢

[@BallyAfrica]

Bundee Aki came in from the side of that maul and caused the collapse

[@johnmcintyre800]

Blah blah blah south Africa were beaten even there cheated try did nt save them

[@kilfeaclekid]

It’s either a South Africa win or the refs fault. Every. Single. Time

[@user-fw3hp7bb6d]

Boo hoo

[@danglybit1]

I saw that on the replay, but thats rugby ..if you cant win the tight games, and SA lately have lost 3...then tallyho and move on...to cold water swimming..like I do!

[@BallyAfrica]

@@kilfeaclekid not blaming the ref that we lost. it was a key moment missed. If it was reversed I'm sure irish fans would be saying the same.

[@danglybit1]

Thanks for a great pod Jim +Co...I'm sure you are going to get your average losers venting, instead of taking a step back and embracing one of the games of the decade! ...We had massive floods in Capetown with so many peoples houses destroyed...What a weekend to remember!

[@josephsweeney4219]

Great commentary. Two comments to add: 1. Hamilton is right, Bealham was excellent off the bench and has been all year. I think he needs to come on the pitch even sooner. 2. Everyone is talking about O'Keefe going to the wrong side of that collapsed maul and missing if coming out. I disagree. If you watch O'Keefe, he looks if the ball is playable on the left side for four seconds and decides it's not. He th m goes to the right just to check if it's come out on that side, sees it hasn't and blows the whistle. The ball needs to be playable immediately and I think he had decided after four seconds that that standard had passed. Then he checks the right side just to see if he's missed something on that side. He hadn't and so he blew it dead.

[@markpattison6031]

I haven’t watched the video, just responding to the title. The Boks are not psychologically damaged at all, we weren’t at our best and we still got close. The same can be said for Ireland, not at their best, those starting lineouts were a big worry, but they didn’t panic. Both teams come away with learnings and a better understanding of their strengths and weaknesses. That being said, Lebok’s kicking is a worry, but I think his confidence was gone before that game anyway. Well done Ireland, it was a pleasure to lose to such a team.

[@markpattison6031]

Oh, and talking about leaving 11 points on the table is also rubbish. If Lebok had got the first kick that he missed, then it would have been a kickoff rather than a 25 yard drop. Everything that happened after that would have been different to what transpired after the miss, maybe Ireland score from the kickoff. Maybe there would have been less or more kicking opportunities for SA in that ‘new’ scenario. Hope that makes sense.

[@Jim_Cpe]

Either team could have won that game and I believe that last line out was the only error the ref made. Which was a shame. Otherwise the ref had a very good game. I think the Boks will have a quiet belief that if they see Ireland again, that they can win after that. They are also the team most equipped to lose a pool game and still believe they can win. That said, it is a quite possible that neither side make it past the quarters! Ha Ha

[@tieral3x755]

You know rugby ?

[@randomuruk7230]

The illegal SA try that came from an obstruction and not giving SA a yellow for intentionally stepping on hands are the biggest mistakes of the game. Ref on your side and you still lost.

[@quentinquentin6752]

The only thing? That was your take? So SA in the 1st half infringed in the line outs consistently. They were practically cheek by jowl with the Irish players and I know if Wayne Barnes was reffing that game he would have penalized SA all day long for that! You cannot position yourself right next to the opposing team, you must respect the gap. Oddly enough in the 2nd half that didn’t occur and I think the ref or some other official warned SA about that at HT. But they got away with in the 1H and they and stole how many line outs? So yeh, not the only thing. The try for SA was so far forward you could measure it in metres !!! So apart form all that oh and SA player blatantly standing on Josh VD Flier’s hand at the ruck. So yeh, apart from all that the only thing he got wrong was that final SA maul. LOL!!! Hark at you!! Do i also mention SA players going off their feet at the ruck and being offside and clearing rucks out from the side? Nah….better not 😂

[@Jim_Cpe]

@@quentinquentin6752 General consensus is that the ref had a good to great game. Even amongst those in this video - who are better players (with better rugby knowledge) than you or I will ever be/have. I'm a Bok fan, and we lost - and I'm still saying the ref had a good game. You know what that is? It's called being a grown up...

[@Jim_Cpe]

@@randomuruk7230 Here's a tissue...hope you feel better soon.

[@ismailfrancis6159]

Respect to quality commentary

[@brettclarke6798]

That final line out, maybe I’m wrong but I felt Aki came in from the side and then collapsed it, had o’keefe seen that it could have been a penalty try, then libbok wouldn’t have needed to convert it, interested in your thoughts?

[@leeofdoom4452]

So... Does Townsend now make a call to Farrell and discuss the idea of a scotland TBP win against Ireland to end south africas world cup hopes?

[@Lucky-wi5oo]

It's impossible that they can be psychologically damaged when they could've won the game if they had a proper kicker.

[@Rooster1212]

What a great game of rugby!! Both teams were amazing. The game could have gone either way, the physicality was immense.

[@fedsummer90]

The game gave Boks confident. Physicality,speed and mentality was excellent. Bomb squad was effective. Kudo to both teams.

[@seanw4893]

I'm sick of hearing the springbok s saying they left 11points behind with the kicks... 3 kicks were in there own half and any kicker would struggle to get them.. Ireland deserved the win 100%

[@stephendoherty981]

It's very irritating alright and disrespectful to Ireland. Ire left 6 points out there by turning down two easy pens.

[@tyronedejager2202]

SA got all those kicks, they win comfortably. We also obviously took chances with those kicks and didn't treat the game like a final at all (we ran it way more than usual). Next time it will be very different...

[@darrenmccann4448]

They didn't kick them thou.

[@eamontdmas]

So true. If you had scored more points than we did, you would have won the match.

[@tyronedejager2202]

@@darrenmccann4448 Handre Pollard is coming :)

[@tyronedejager2202]

@@eamontdmas So true. We had less points at the end of the game, otherwise we would have won the game.

[@darrenmccann4448]

@@tyronedejager2202 he was there and was not played or is that ireland fault as well ba ha ha 😂 sore losers and excuses from south Africa fans 🙄 I suppose it was the wind fault and the ref ba ha ha

[@conwaynoel3715]

For me as an Irish fan what I couldnt understand is why did South Africa chose to go for long range kicks instead of kicking for territory especially as they had at least parity in the lineouts and I think three of those kicks were penos. Just dosen't make sense if you have a dodgy kicker.

[@Sharkman1963]

In hindsight, not damaged at all. They learned a lesson from their multiple missed kicks and immediately called up Handre Pollard, whose boot was perfect for them in the knockout stage. Would have been an interesting Final between the Springboks and Ireland. Maybe in 2027.

[@warrendavies3627]

Look at that last maul where Bundee Aki comes in from the side and illegally brings down that maul right in front of the referee

[@joelyons886]

what about stamping on JVDF's hand... if you are moaning about 1 incident you really are clutching at straws you were beat take the loss

[@warrendavies3627]

​​@@joelyons886Ireland were really impressive and I am merely pointing out a single incident however a 5m maul being brought down so close to the goal line in the last minute. We want things called fairly. The Boks also left 11 points on the board.

[@MrJohnNel]

Yes that was a minimum yellow/red, but what was annoying was the ref not penalising Ireland for holding players into the ruck, which preceded that stamp @@joelyons886

[@joelyons886]

@MrJohnNel JVDF was stamped on a few times first one was inside 25 seconds... also it's frustrating hearing some of the Bok fans at the end of the day this was a game played by the top 2 teams and no quater was given BOTH bashed seven lumps out of one another BOTH went in hard and BOTH left everything on the field it's incredibly disingenuous how the Bokkies are moaning about missed kicks and a maul at the end when reality is Ireland beat them in a tight top tier game

[@jimbob2252]

We can highlight 10 different things in that match on both sides lads. Games over it was 13-8 Ireland

[@thomaslanders2073]

The Boks are being severely overrated. Ireland beating them does not mean that Ireland is going on to win the world cup. In fact it's almost certain that New Zealand will destroy Ireland in the QF 😂

[@Canvashed]

While Ireland have a QF curse in recent RWCs this team are a different animal, can't see NZ matching them at the breakdown and physically.

[@eimearnolan8185]

🧂

[@darrenmccann4448]

Nz are crap 😂. Foster makes idiots look clever like you

[@gregbradley7482]

Dream on kiddo...

[@kaalvoet]

You make no sense at all

[@Vlerkies]

Sincerely well done to Ireland for grinding out that win. It was really an epic clash and a great advertisement for Rugby! I agree with Jim, the game could have ended up either way and as such while the Boks may be quite gutted for loosing they won't be 'physiologically damaged' at all. Ireland failed to fire in a number of areas, the 1st few lineouts being most noticeable. So did the Boks, the goal kicking being amateurish in a contest where everyone knew every point counts. Agree the last whistle was iffy (50/50) but as a Saffer nobody here is whining about that much at all, the game was bigger than that. At the 5 min left mark Ire were lying all over the wrong side of the ball, that miffed me more hehe. Overall it was a fantastic contest, a rugby spectacle for all the right reasons, and the best part was there was none of this yellow and red card rubbish that potentially can ruin good games like this. A testament to the quality of both teams and the officials. Overall the ref was brilliant! (considering some earlier pool games in this RWC and leading up too) Sad we lost, but not all is lost. Rugby won! Edit: so did the Irish, dammit 🤣🤣 Also Agree that with Irelands momentum of late and through the tournament they are for sure the favorites to lift the Webb Ellis. We are not off the pace or far behind at all so its going to make for a great competition after the pool stages. Enjoy!

[@gezzarandom]

I wouldn’t say they were psychologically damaged, a large number of their squad were there in 2019 when they lost to New Zealand then went onto win it. They’ve been there done that.

[@vanrensburgarchitecturebim1641]

Plenty of cramp ease keeping Sexton hanging on....thanks TAS analytics for showing that.

[@AliKay3011]

Ridiculous! We beat the Springboks in Yokohama in our pool game in 2019 and look how badly that turned out for them.. NOT! They went on to win the whole blimin thing! Go the ABs!

[@rhrh7779]

Awesome game but strategically set for a clash with All Blacks and Ireland. Thanks Bokke.

[@Cpernaum]

17:51 That deflated i love it...just made my Tuesday...nice, as a Saffa in London I'll be going to the pub now...Nice. Sien julle later!

[@dantheman991million]

As a South African that game against Ireland honestly frustrates me beyond measure. We always talk about being risk adverse when it comes to World Cups. We know we don't have a kicker yet we kick for poles? From more than 50m? Which is a hard kick for a good kicker? Now our fate actually lies in the hands of the Scotland and Ireland match assuming we beat Tonga... Talk about being risk adverse. Bad bad bad risk management by the coaching squad if you ask me. Oh and don't say the team decided that. Rassie decided that with his lights. I can lip read and all he said was Yes kick, kick, kick. If South Africa get knocked out in the pool stages it will be the coaching staff that caused it.

[@TrezenEN]

Are Wales still finishing 4th in their group, Jim, or have you changed your mind on that one?

[@nolan8336]

Great show guy's, but you're wrong about the collapsed Maul at the end. It wasn't harsh, as you said. Law 16 (Maul) 17d states : 'The Maul ends when the ball-carrier goes to ground, and the ball is not IMMEDIATELY available'. The Maul goes down at 80.07, the ball is available at 80.12. So in fact the referee spent an extra 5 seconds looking for the ball, that's NOT Immediate. Correct call, but it was late.

[@IcarianX]

Boks know how to handle pressure and will learn from their mistakes. As epic as it may be, i really hope Ireland don't face SA again in the finals, because we're overdue a loss, and SA will be much tougher next time.... But Ireland will too, and hopefully up to the challenge... But man it's going to be a tough run! Scotland. (assuming we progress) Then New Zealand (if we win) then ??? (probably one of our "easier" matches (if we win) possibly SA again! Anyone from Pool A or B who wins the WC will have well and truly earned it.

[@elmoventer9513]

Remember 2019 Springbok ramp up in intensity up to the final They did not maul. .. they did not go for the corner kicks.... they were told to function at 80%.... Springboks in thurd gear. ... Irland was full taps... Remember what they did to the mighty All Black's at Twickenham. Let him who has eyes see... Good practice run I might add

[@johnnyk6460]

Andy Goode's impersonations are f**king hilarious😂😂

[@wjames1937]

Also exactly what was the springbok scrum infringement (75 minutes) leading to the penalty?

[@pscot9620]

11 points left on the pitch. Boks scored try off 1 that hit post . Faf had 1 inside his own half ,square on ,50/50 kick. I would say 5 left out there. Could be argued Ireland left 6 out there if they went for posts instead of line.

[@theultimatesharpshooter6734]

I don't think Manie is actually a bad kicker of the ball more so he gets the degree of angle wrong. His strikes the ball well and it goes straight but it is just 1 degree to the left every time. This is the difference between him kicking at the Stormers and him kicking with the Springboks. (73% with Stormers and 40% with Springboks). At the Stormers he has a kicking coach on the pitch that can help him make that little adjustment to his angle where as at the Springboks he gets it wrong more often than not. From the right hand side he actually kicks pretty well since that degree off works in his favour. If I were Rassie, I would think outside the box and have a player put a marker where Manie should be standing when he takes the kick. Against NZ he got the angle spot on but in the last 2 matches the same issues as before crept in again.

[@piercebennett5912]

What do ye think of the 2 obstructions for kolbes try and mack hanson following the high ball near the end of the match?

[@TineBeo]

I think Ireland have yet another gear in execution. I think if these teams meet again Ireland will win by more. IF we took our kicks it would have been an easier win. Also who's to say that upon ball getting taken out from the maul that they'd have scored with that immense Irish defence?! A functioning lineout and or one where SA aren't infringing closing space before the throw. A bigger Ireland win!

[@freedomandtruth77]

Springboks damaged? No! More determined to defend the cup? Yes!

[@McGillivrayDavid]

Look forward to meeting Ireland in the final!!!

[@devigiemariekistiah7436]

Spring bok SA are men of good Sport Spirit. They are not moved by words of judgement. We SA honour bokke

[@davidnuzum2062]

Rule 16 - D .....The maul ends when the ball-carrier goes to ground and the ball is not immediately available. The maul collapsed by SA and Reinach was fishing, so the ball wasn't immediately available , game over.

[@rorysullivan4913]

Really good objective analysis. Good for the Irish but Boks will be stronger, much stronger.