RWC FINAL HOT TAKES | Rugby Pod Break Down Springboks V All Blacks

[@willem8b873]

Pieter Steph du Toit was an absolute machine. He just wouldn't give up and totally emptied the tank to single handedly tackle everyone twice... Beast mode defined

[@austingtir]

Well its easy when your oppposition flanker is red carded isnt it. Sure he deserved man of the match but atleast look at the thing in perspective. No way he would of been that effective with Cane on the field for 80mins.

[@folkmoot36]

SA must be the luckiest WC winners in history. They were beaten by Ireland and scraped three wins thanks largely to refereeing inadequacies. However great teams make their own luck, and SA certainly did that. Shame that they didn't deal honestly with the racist remarks of a team member, which as cast a cloud over their amazing victorious defence of the title.

[@estherdewaal9399]

​@folkmoot36 just curious, do you understand Afrikaans at all?

[@johnmcintyre800]

See the all blacks support missed kicks not a word about it If south Africa lost F F S

[@anelfrylinck841]

Can you speak Afrikaans...wit kant means white side..but I am sure you know it already. racist card is left on the field in France. Go South Africa. Thank you Bokke! ❤❤❤

[@nadinevonmoltke1140]

The thing about Rassie -- he's a character for sure, but the second the Boks won he stepped back. He hasn't looked for the limelight at all. His big 'in your face moments' seem very tactical to focus attention on him and not the team when they don't need it. The second they deserve it.... Rassie puts himself away. He's an incredible leader and his team know he will fall on his sword for every one of them, which gave them the strength to literally put everything they had on that field. Not the best players, the right players to get it done. Backed by incredible leaders

[@Samuel-w7x3b]

and thats what makes us better winners better Champs.. no person can done better than what Rassie and Stokke Did with Jacque.. dont forget Stokke Please

[@davideveratt5473]

Spot on.

[@islamisthetruewaytogod6812]

Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way) don't help either. Thank you very much for your time. First of all, if you have any questions regarding Islam and yourself, just open the Quran randomly, and you will find the answer in front of you, like a miracle and a sign from God. Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them). Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI). Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy. Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI). Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad). Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning! Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures. Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement. It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them. (19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).. God said : Say, “We believe in Allah, and in what was revealed to us, and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and in what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We do not differentiate between any of them. And to Him, we surrender.” (2:136 / Translated by Community) Salam (Peace) ---------------------

[@closelaugh185]

@@islamisthetruewaytogod6812 shut up

[@SparkBerry]

My 70 y.o. mother-in-law, watched her first rugby game, the bronze on Friday. Enjoyed it so much, that she insisted she go with to the pub for the final, and was on her feet along with the rest of us Bok supporters as the final whistle blew. That, is the power of this game we love.

[@SA_CrimeWatch]

So sweet🥹

[@aprilsmith3683]

​@@SA_CrimeWatch Agree...🇿🇦

[@enriquenelson7184]

Thanks for all the respect shown to SA and the Springboks; and huge respect back to you guys. It's been a joy to listen to during the World Cup. The NH seems a bit hostile against Africans at the moment, which I get, but common sense is needed. And that's why I loved this pod. Well done to the ABs too!

[@washuneluvhada7616]

Do you think we give a f*ck? Rassie did it again with Kolisi and the boys, against every nay saying moron out there, have a beer, we the greatest

[@NickSterson]

Jim Hamilton is welcome back in Durban anytime!

[@Arti-iChi]

This is has been by far been one of the best channels to watch this world cup for unbiased commentary.. no negativity made it a pleasure...Thank you

[@MartinJames-s3n]

Thanks guys - The Rugby Pod has been the icing on the World Cup cake. Excellent analysis with humour - keep up the good work.

[@dhirshg]

NZ fans need to watch this one - 100% fair and unbiased from all three guys.

[@afikiletokwe9938]

There was a point when Vermuelen caught the ball in Italy and ran it into Paris, straight through bodies. It was brutal

[@pieterferreira4008]

Brutal moment of the game. Thinking about it could have been Dwayne's last run in die green and gold ever. Everyone was playing like it was their last moments and respect to every player. After Scotland, Ireland, France, England and then NZ. Respect.

[@Bokgat]

The British pundits are cool. The players are twats. The kiwi pundits are twats, their players are cool. The Aussies are twats all round😂

[@exb254]

He's gonna be missed. Greatest ever, Springboks 8th-man!

[@afikiletokwe9938]

@@pieterferreira4008 What a benchmark that has been set. What a standard to live up to.

[@hagarengela8312]

As a bok supporter and South African, AB's played brilliantly and our biggest rival. Kudo's to both teams, they played their hearts out

[@xaviermurray7698]

When the best attacking meets the best defending team, you get THAT match. Really proud of South Africa! Well deserved! 4xtimes champions great accolade.

[@torejungle7492]

The ‘best defending team’ who lost to Ireland, went tooth and nail against ENGLAND and needed the refs to evade France.

[@markdanielleanderson4323]

@@torejungle7492 Loser mentality

[@nicholas8390]

​@torejungle7492 This entire comment section is filled with class...and then there is you😂 Just extremely bitter. Losing to Ireland literally meant nothing

[@torejungle7492]

@@nicholas8390 yea apologies but I’m not going to join the queue of everybody acting honourable to South African fans when they have been the most toxic, insufferable fanbase the entire tournament. Have a good one pal I hope you can find the pats on the back you are so needy for elsewhere 👍🏻

[@nicholas8390]

@torejungle7492 Aghh please just go cry somewhere else😂 South African fans have been getting it from everyone because no one likes being beaten😂 Grow up

[@JohnathanStrydom]

thank you lads for an unbelievable podcast - all 3 of you, from a Saffa here, such great points of view and actually always positive about our great sport no matter what team playing, keep up the good chats boy - #4timesworldchamps

[@powerbite92]

They did their alloted job in terms of lying about what happened and covering up the corruption.

[@slagathor54]

​@@powerbite92ooof, swing and a miss

[@powerbite92]

@@slagathor54 broederbonde and free may suns doing their typical corruption. Jim and Goodey are part of the same Leicester 'brotherhood' as Borthwick and Joel Stransky are . Or why do you think Stransky went there, of all clubs ,after the Markgraaf saga?

[@geoffdb8118]

​@@powerbite92what corruption? Enlighten us, wise one

[@warrenbooysen]

Best rugbypod ever. So nice seeing neutrals nail every talking point and nuance of a great final between these two old foes. You guys get it ….one for the purists. The story lines within the game were unbelievable and as Union fans this is something the naysayers just don’t get. We would rather watch that game than a 50 point drubbing. Brilliant final and your guys summation is the cherry on top

[@raf4992]

WTF... You rather watch 15 men play 14 and the TMO and technical rules ruin a spectacle. 🤡🤡😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@JJfromJ]

@@raf4992 if you win the game, YES!!! And win it we did. Suck it up sunshine!!! Oh and go study the rulebook a bit more.

[@raf4992]

@@JJfromJ Deep down you know it was a hollow win given to you by the Officials. It doesn't't actually bother me because I don't lie to myself. We won all the stats bar one with only 14 on the park. It must haunt you that you couldn't even score a single point against 14 men for 57 minutes. Ouch!! that's bloody embarrassing. And I also know we'll kick your arse in the Rugby Championship for the next 4 yesrs like we always do .. I'm off now to enjoy all our Electricity, running water, great infrastructure and Lack of Corruption and violence..🤘😉

[@raf4992]

@@JJfromJ I looked it up and you are right.. the rule book says that Savea shouldn't have been penalised and it also says Siya should have been "Siya later" Red Carded.. Thanks for agreeing and giving me the win... Better luck next time Cheatahh!!

[@14nst3w4rt]

The SA defence was just immense. When ABs had the ball the Boks line defence was just up so fast and so hard with the hits that it was a great game. And edge of the seat stuff from ABs to fight to the end and play coast to coast rugby.

[@splorticussuii3303]

It was a terrible game. Both teams played badly and it was only interesting as a competition because it was a final.

[@danielmckelvey8273]

If anything the AB's defence was immense, they stopped the boks form getting any try in that game with only 14 men and they scored a try on top of that, in my opinion the AB's played rugby.

[@splorticussuii3303]

Nah the South Africa attack was just awful. Also the only given New Zealand try was from a clear forward pass. The real score was 13-4 and New Zealand were soundly beaten by a terrible Boks side in a forgettable final. @@danielmckelvey8273

[@ivotheg2397]

​@@danielmckelvey8273exactly we had 14 and you lot had 15. If only we could kick goals.

[@danielmckelvey8273]

@ivotheg2397 exactly mate, I was yelling at the TV to Jordie when he took that penalty shot to take your time, you have 30 sec and breath but he went straight away 😳

[@shaunjayes8842]

Great podcast guys. It's been really entertaining, watching/listening to you throughout the RWC. Balanced, fair and insightful comment, all the way through the tournament, it's been so enjoyable and I thank you for that. As a South African, I must say this was an incredible tournament, with imo, the highest level of competition ever. To win it was fantastic, but all credit to a magnificent AB team who fought like demons until the final whistle, and it could have gone either way until the end. Huge respect.

[@melaniebecker5853]

As a Saffa gal I’ve never been more invested in Rugby World Cup since the last 2 contests .. always had respect for the AB’s my 2nd team .. really missed rugby the last 5yrs while in Australia , u hardly see it there .. NFL dominates everything .. coming back home to SA this last year & getting totally involved In this WC has been so good for my Saffa soul 💚💛🇿🇦🏉! This podcast has been awesome ! Luv u guys ..thanks ..u rock ! Was awesome to see Djokovic at his first rugby game 🩵

[@distinctlyleon]

Well done gents. By far the best, most well balanced podcast during and after the World Cup. Well done to NZ. However, the Boks played the top 5 teams to win the trophy. Can’t take that away from them. Besides the fact that Rassie mentioned that this was what he was building towards. Great game from both sides. Proud to be a Safa.

[@londonsouthafrican]

Many thanks guys for your unbiased rugby views before, during and after the 2023 RWC. I've enjoyed all the podcasts that I watched of yours. Massive credit to you.

[@gavinstrelitz1558]

Great podcast guys, best of the rwc. As a Bok supporter the greatest side is the 2015 All Blacks. Carter, McCaw, arguably the two greatest to play the game, Smith, it just goes on. And they came out and blasted you off the field with precision running rugby.

[@daggaboom]

I just made a comment similar to this. I've been trying to find a way to conclude that this team's the best ever and for all the great reasons there are. But that AB team is just the absolute pinnacle of talent. We can be proud that we have a team that is in that debate cause no other team is coming close.

[@MR-bq1cy]

Have to love Andy Goode. Speaks in pure facts and without bias. Brilliant pundit and this is the first time I’ve seen any credit given to the Boks for a monumental feat. I don’t think many saw us winning, not even us fans at times because tbh we didn’t play our best in the semis or finals.

[@reggie_p9]

Without bias? Hahaha that’s a lol

[@MR-bq1cy]

@@reggie_p9 yeah I always just see him speak in facts.

[@Tarrimaster]

Sam Cane going off was a weird blessing for the ABs - it forced a change in their gameplan to one that actually worked!

[@benjigirl45]

Thank you for this fair review. It's been a rough few weeks as A Boks supporter with hefty allegations thrown at a team we love. Doping, professional fouling, racist slurs, paying refs off ... you name it, we had it. I've been disheartened tbh as if not for the Boks, I'd have been shouting for ABs and France all the way!

[@jospike1470]

2015...Greatest individuals vs 2023...Greatest team. This was a team/squad effort that took them through 1 - 6 and won the final. SA supporter who really rates and respects NZ rugby

[@drh02]

Individuals vs team. What a load of rubbish.

[@cheersbro3961]

SA best team ‘23 vs allblacks worst team’23

[@Alec-sanderMeirellesDoCantoECa]

100% agree - Wayne Barnes had a very balanced, calm, measured, game under the circumstances. I also appreciated how he was reluctant to give scrum penalties -- rather letting open play decide the result.

[@powerbite92]

He had a bad, biased game - these guys are pretending otherwise because they are part of the same organisation as him.

[@Alec-sanderMeirellesDoCantoECa]

@@powerbite92 Did you see the huge call he missed on 74 mins against the Boks? Kolbe takes a drop-kick attempt, misses, and Mounga fumbles, and then a retreating ABs player catches it in front of Mounga. I'm not angry at WB for that - I expect those calls to be 50/50 in a game. Point is: both teams got the rub of it. ABs try - the fumbled 'pass' from Telea shouldve been closely scrutinised cos that did not look like it went flat out of the hands - yet Barnes awarded it so quickly. Clearly he was trying to make up for scratching out the previous try.

[@J0sh351]

reluctant to give scrum penalties alright, the ABs blew the boks away in the 79th minute scrum and called a reset

[@Alec-sanderMeirellesDoCantoECa]

@@J0sh351 The ball wasn't in yet. Watch any rugby game without the blinkers on, and you'll see scrummies refuse to put the ball in until the scrum is steady. It's only on the second or third feed that a ref awards a free kick for the scrummie not feeding. Mate, how long you been watching rugby?

[@slayerbot1394]

I thought he was fine - the TMO however

[@lesliedickson-tetteh5197]

Relatively neutral fan coming in peace. Grew up in South Africa but love All Blacks rugby. I thoroughly enjoyed the World Cup final and on balance think Wayne Barnes had a good game. However, I do completely understand how some all blacks fan may feel aggrieved. What made the game difficult was that there were so many marginal calls. Even the Cane red card, we've seen given as a yellow on different days through the change of direction into him and low angle of Kriel. If a yellow is given there instead of red then we still have the same debate going on post game just the other way around. I think where I do feel for the all blacks is that they essentially came out on the wrong end of all the 50/50 calls or calls not being made at all (e.g. Etzebeth, Kwagga Smith). They even lost the 50/50 bounce of the ball after the Barrett chip for Savea. Great game and even with all of the fine margins going against them, the All Blacks still had opportunities to nick it and I think that's what's going to haunt the players and coaching staff most....

[@dimitardobrev3296]

If yellow was given, sa would have found a way to win anyway

[@amoloney1984]

Kwagga was immense 3 turnovers what a player

[@islamisthetruewaytogod6812]

Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way) don't help either. Thank you very much for your time. First of all, if you have any questions regarding Islam and yourself, just open the Quran randomly, and you will find the answer in front of you, like a miracle and a sign from God. Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them). Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI). Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy. Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI). Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad). Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning! Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures. Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement. It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them. (19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).. God said : Say, “We believe in Allah, and in what was revealed to us, and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and in what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We do not differentiate between any of them. And to Him, we surrender.” (2:136 / Translated by Community) Salam (Peace) ---------------------

[@suewindsor5196]

Thank you for giving us such unbiased commentary 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🌻

[@waynepaulse3058]

This was the only pod I wanted to here after the final. You guys a pure class. Goode very dissappointed you didn't take a round on predicting that Will Jordan will be found out.

[@jayshreenarshi686]

But in fairness to Goode, Jordan was hardly visible

[@jandelport4794]

Can you do a video with all the tackles made by Peter-Steph du Toit? Twenty eight tackles in 80 minutes. It will be a fantastic compilation to view. Also, it would be a great example to show to all players, beginners and professionals, on how it should be done legally and that it can be done. It probably won SA the game!

[@robertjan002]

Awesome. And he didn’t get head to his shoulder like Cane. Amazing.

[@jeromeh7985]

Compilation of elbow in face charges not seen by referees and TMO please from QF to F.

[@davidpells4298]

You cant ..World Rugby will pull it immediately for copyright infringement..

[@peterclareburt4594]

Interesting talking about SA scoring all their points in the first 33 mins, and you both said that Frizell falling on that guys leg was a clear accident. But of that 33 mins the AB's player 10 mins with just 14 men, losing a key player being a lose forward, and in those 10 mins scoring 50% of their points. For an accident, which the bunker also rolled as an accident. I agree Sam's red card probably was a red card under the current rules. But under the current rules and bunker evaluation Frizells situation was neither a penalty nor a yellow card. It is worth discuss.g as the two sets of reffing processes, being refs and TMO, then more extensive review from the bunker and they disagreed. If the decision which the ref told that captains that he was not targeting the players leg, what was the penalty and yellow for??

[@pita3908]

when that yellow turned into a red, the look on Cane face.. seriously had me almost in tears! hes worked so so hard, brighter days ahead.

[@gordondwyer3641]

The margins are so small. With the speed of the game it's inevitable that even the best players are going to make a slight error of judgement in a game at some stage in their career with potentially serious consequences. Just sad that for Sam it was in the world cup final.

[@brianblignaut5843]

I've been waiting with bated breath for you to release this episode, the best rugby show by a country mile. Thanks for all the coverage and for the balanced and unbiased views!

[@apeman2981]

Double tackle from Mo'unga on Kolisi and De Allende was pivotal too. It's not getting enough recognition imho. AB's were sensational, Boks were possesed. Great game. Thank you AB's. 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@bigowenzy3397]

I agree if that was a try i think the boks could have put 20 on the ab's.. for me the biggest moment of the match

[@atoms-to-atoms]

Im now addicted to this podcast..Thanks guys!

[@RobForYourInfo]

People forget that the boks were also with 14 men on the field for the majority of the match. Having Mbonambi injured within 2 minutes (our ONLY hooker specialist) then our Captain Kolisi and then Cheslin Kolbe so yeah we were basically also in survival mode defensively

[@wesrobmat]

Man what a time to be alive and a rugby fan. Can I just say how much more you guys bring to the whole rugby experience. Your pod cast is up there with the games I look forward to each one.

[@tappie34]

Agree 100% with Andy Goode, a player should always go for an HIA if the other player gets sent off for a hit against the head.

[@kristian762]

Ja ive been saying that for a long time

[@johnpeter3626]

thnks guys...I wont stop watching ths podcast...I reali enjoyed the unbiased , expert , humorous, laid back analysis...

[@connorhawkins2297]

Thank you Andy G for be one the only people that watched the game and actually heard what Wayne actually said

[@MarkMoore-xk2rn]

Yours is about the only podcast that I actively GO AND LOOK FOR..... I have subscribed, notifications and all. What a tremendous show you guys put out there. Honest for one thing. Most other videos, (except for Tim at Eggchasers) talks how NZ lost, so few talk on how SA WON.... So here is my gift to you. A good afrikaans superlative adjective. Kwaaiste...... it does not just mean the angriest, as google translate will no doubt say.

[@gideonjoubert7692]

Yes Goodie you make a good point on the depth of the Springboks as their biggest strength that makes them possibly the best team ever, and that depth was developed by the Rasnaber team as a foresight into what they expected the RWC 23 to be, an almost impossible path to victory. Incredible planning and balls. By far the best coaching duo in the world now and before, such a shame they're splitting.

[@larrymeyer2917]

Breath of fresh air watching such objective review. I too could not believe there was enough in the tank for Boks to win final, but they dug very deep, Rassie was like a man possessed around half time, the moves were absolutely strategic, defence incredible. TMO did the job, identifying critical play to deliver fair decisions, Barnes incredible composure.

[@shaunhorne7800]

Great show guys. you have been the best of the world cup in my opinion.

[@shaughnedwards6336]

great show chaps !!!! good points raised and good unbiased content ... well done because there are not many podcasts like this ... thanks

[@brendanpayne115]

Very very good point about Jessie Kriel needing to go for a HIA after Sam Cane tackle.

[@chrisvanderwalt790]

@brendanpayne115 - Ironic that Rassie was recently criticised (for calling for HIA's), maybe he just took Jesse Kriel's word for it that time... We Saffers joke that a JK HIA might be tricky 😊

[@robertjan002]

Just imagine. And Cane’s cynical hit would have taken out a key defensive player as intended.

[@aldobonaso3481]

@@robertjan002 I was quite honestly hoping to see Kwagga Smith come in at 9 or 13...what a player he is, I have no doubts that he would have cause much trouble in the backline 😅😅

[@waynescrooby454]

Professional analysis and input by guys that know and understand the current game. Thankyou and well done.

[@chrismarriott4325]

Brillant podcast throughout the WC - thanks. SA were immense, no mention of Siya Kolisi's yellow card, and can't believe Goody compared Kane's " red " to David Beckhams pertulance.

[@daggaboom]

He was referring to the public reaction/demonisation element of Beckhams experience. They did mention siya's card. he was hinged and they had no problem with what he got.

[@chrismarriott4325]

@@daggaboom Yeah fair comments mate .. don't get hinged stuff .. 2 yellows. Don't recall any mention of SA professional fouls, all the best.

[@kezzert21]

Listen again.

[@chrismarriott4325]

@@kezzert21i will mate, all the best.

[@duanegreen9569]

Love you guys! Great rugby brains as a collective. People forget Rassie was a great player in he’s own right! 💪

[@mattyshaw7126]

Brilliant guys. I don’t watch any mainstream media post match chat, total nonsense. This is exceptional: knowledge, respect and sense. 🤛

[@emilenaude3918]

Guys- What an honest, professional cast. The whole tournament has been covered so well by you guys. It's great to hear objective opinions and professional takes from you blokes. Thanks guys ❤

[@robvandenheuvel128]

As a Bok supporter, it’s always interesting to hear comments from an independent panel. Thank you for your balanced and pragmatic take on things. I’m curious to hear from you learned gentlemen, what influence (if any) do you believe is the inclusion of SA teams in the URC and other northern hemisphere based competitions having on the quality of the SA game, approach and tactics. A similar question can be asked about the impact that the exit of SA teams from the Super Rugby comp is having on teams like Australia

[@woesmevrou5673]

Thanks for a great discussion. Watching the final in Jo’burg was an extraordinary experience. The two most outstanding captains of the 2023 World Cup. Both always credit their teams so sincerely. Don’t know enough about rugby but don’t think Cane should have been handed the red by TMO. Would just love to know Wayne Barnes personal take on the matter. Have been watching tv coverage of the Boks arrival home. More sustained anticipation and tension than the match itself - for nearly 5 hours! So much said by so many individuals in tribute to the sporting heroes. Always the same message cutting across divides and differences - “Stronger Together”. The logo used throughout RWC 2023.

[@shinywarm6906]

The guy on the pitch under the greatest pressure was Wayne Barnes. He did a good job, but there's something wrong with the game when that's the case

[@benjamindewes2345]

Yeah and I think poor Barnsey is copping the flak that should actually be directed at the TMO. If they'd kept their noses out and just let Barnes do his job the game would've flowed much better. When they use technology to scrutinize the game to such minute detail it opens up too many grey areas and stops the game from flowing. It'll create a culture of players intentionally creating situations or putting themselves in danger to benefit, rather than playing a good honest, hard fought game

[@shagwell3306]

Come on Goody - never been a fan but certainly am now! Love your input 👍

[@kylelouer4323]

I genuinely feel bad for Sam Cane. Obviously it wasn’t done with malice to hurt Kriel, and both teams are friends with tons of respect. But Sam is going to be haunted by that for life, and NZ will never forget it, they may say they forgive him but people don’t forget. Great game, great tournament, great sport. Looking forward to professional leagues to get going again

[@023achilles]

It's because of the Frizell yellow, that should have been red, TMO felt they had no choice but to upgrade Cane's yellow.

[@jeromeh7985]

Indeed I will never forgive gold watch Bevan for definitely breaking my illusions about Rugby being a sport and not a show controlled by a mafia.

[@Camcolito]

@@023achilles No it was just an obvious red.

[@023achilles]

@@Camcolito While I agree with you, if Frizell had been given a red, no way TMO would have upgrade Sam to a red as well. And vice versa, Frizell gets a yellow and as a result Cane gets a red. Amazing that no one (AB fans and neutrals) saw All Blacks playing 'on the edge' and beyond! They just feel bad they lost by 1point!

[@howstupidcanyoube100]

@@023achillesfrizzels was a fucking joke. He barely landed on the bloke. Was an 8th of his arse cheek on a leg that’s kinked out about 30 degrees. Completely innocent

[@goafy]

Is this the rugby podcast version of Top Gear (Clarkson, May, Hammond)? ....Saffa here, just wanted to say thank you and congrats on the quality content.

[@wernerheenop]

Great Analysis 100% correct: There is a massive misconception around Barnes and Savea's penalty. He did NOT say "I saw the replay and realised I made a mistake". Exactly the opposite happened: His exact words were: "I DID NOT see the replay", meaning he was not looking at the screen when the replay was on. Then he said: "I did not see you release enough", meaning that he interpreted the play as a penalty against Savea for not allowing the tackler to place the ball. Point being, it is not that he did not realise a mistake was made and refused to reverse it. He interpreted it his way and did not see the replay so he could not change his mind.

[@phillipmiga3961]

I have been following rugby for 16years now I never saw a ref get 100% right in a rugby match even with the new technology they still can't get it wrong calls lack of understanding the rules

[@mthunziphakathi4215]

Bingo, you heard correctly.

[@cheersbro3961]

Like when he said “no knock on, no knock on” and then the allblacks scored. And then the try was disallowed. That knock on was a number of phases gone

[@mthunziphakathi4215]

@@cheersbro3961 It is different boet, when a try is scored they go back to check if there was anything wrong. The two phases part is a guideline and not part of the actual law. It was a clear knock on, the Ardie incident was a matter of interpretation of the millisecond. Let's not compare apples to oranges mate.

[@ChrisBrown-or8ky]

​@@mthunziphakathi4215 I think you should check out the law 11, which states categorically that knock ons within 2 phases of a possible try blah de blah. Not saying I'm 100% correct, but that's what the law book states in that section

[@psychoanalyticthinking153]

thank you, i have enjoyed your podcasts- will miss them, we need a few tours, i wish the boke joined the 6 nations would be good for rugby and having brilliant contests

[@markcourtney6113]

The Jesse Kriel one vs Scotland was looked at and it was determined that his first contact was with the ball and that the contact was minimal on the head (you can disagree with that but you can't say it wasn't looked at and you definitely can't say it's the same as Sam Cane's one). What adds to the frustration is, we as fans (and pundits) can't decide what we want, because we want what suits our teams. The Jesse Kriel vs Scotland, the TMO looked at it in the background, decided it was nothing and therefore we didn't hear anything more. At the time we were clamoring for the TMO to get involved. But in the final we are bemoaning over-involvement of the TMO. Very difficult for officials to give us what we want when we can't even decide what that is.

[@benjamindewes2345]

I think we want the TMO to only be allowed to get involved when asked. The freedom they have to adjudicate at will on whatever they feel has gone too far

[@muppetman6139]

Agree

[@MichaelCarey-t1o]

Love your passion for the game…. and appreciation of the Boks!

[@seannorris7993]

Interesting stat, apparently Boks had 72% territory for the last 15min. Kinda tells a story of it’s own. Great POD, love the balanced commentry.

[@austingtir]

Interesting... are you sure thats true? because the overall territory and possession stats were well in favour of NZ and I dont recall southafrica being in NZ's territory much of the second half. NZ played that way on purpose declining penalties (shots a goal) because they knew with 14men the boks would be extremely dangerous off restarts after penalties and were using time with the ball to pin the boks in their half. That alone imo was a master stroke and "almost" won the AB's the game. I felt it really put the boks out of their comfort zone. In hindsight maybe they should of kicked one more of those penalties for goal but thats hindsight they may not of scored the try they did without going for a lineout.....

[@seannorris7993]

@@austingtir Just heard it on one of the other POD's I watch, honestly can't remember which one. Remember they only talking about the last 15 minutes. If true, it is an interesting stat.

[@seannorris7993]

@@austingtir Oh and I did say 'apparently' because I haven't seen or heard that stat anywhere else.

[@chantelp]

I thought ABs defended really well with just 14 men. Rugby’s best teams putting everything out in that final. I agree with Jim this match made me feel proud of rugby as a sport. ❤

[@mthunziphakathi4215]

SA had great game management in the last bit. Boks played that last bit in the right half.

[@dreamcatchersong]

Well done, great craic and analysis over the course of the WRC 👏👏

[@dananderson6342]

Very similar to 2011 final, one point margin, low score, and attrition over flair. We all love seeing tries, but games like that really humanise these players. Wasn't the highest quality, but you can't say it wasn't enthralling.

[@dumisaralane]

Always the best analysis, gracious, respectful and well thought perspectives. Proud our Springboks won it, impressed by the All Blacks fight back. Even more impressed by the analysis throughout the tournament from this channel. Thank you!

[@nubslayer123123]

Great podcast. While we're on how the smallest of margins could have changed the game. Losing Bongi within the first few minutes, was absolutely HUGE for South Africa. He's a powerhouse in the scrum and unfortunately Deon is just not big enough to effect the scrum like Bongi can. I think it would have been a blowout if Bongi was able to play the whole game. The bomb squad was basically diffused by his loss.

[@powerbite92]

No Fourie, no fetcher - and ZA would have been in big trouble with no fetcher up against the AB back row. Losing Bongi bailed out the Boks in the 1st half.

[@slayerbot1394]

Boks were still all over us in the 1st half anyway

[@lukeshearer9063]

At least he was injured before he had the opportunity to racially abuse someone this week lol

[@quentinadkins432]

​@@powerbite92lost Marc pre finals. Am too. Line outs battled maybe the throw?

[@TheDruzza]

@@powerbite92noob question- what is a fetcher?

[@eudonhickey1374]

Very good analysis and appreciate the fluency in explaining it. thanks

[@HotbutterdHB27]

Great Podcast...fyi...all teams came to play while SA was at war...that anger... that dog..back against the wall....therein is the % differences....1 point...damn 3 times.

[@diepadda]

Great great pod! Jim is awesome. Just love the springbok spirit! And think Nienaber is the best coach in the world. I would definitely never have picked that world 15 players. Argument for Ox, Malherbe, Pieter Steph and Jessie Kriel being in that World 15. This is the Greatest team of all time!

[@ktm690endurorally]

Thank you for clearing up that Barnes never said I got that wrong sorry, I have absolutely no idea why all NZ KZbin channels and tv channels are saying that

[@rdbmarriott]

Great commentary, refreshing to hear a honest objective discussion, unlike all the trash talk dished out by other social media pods.

[@South_Affy]

The Springboks went to a dark place to win. I think they found new layers and rooms of dark places. A lot of my USA friends are now Springbok and Rugby fans. Springboks have affected millions all over the world, not just in South Africa.

[@wesleylang172]

Andy is the first pundits who called that Barnes interaction with Savea right. I should have subbed before this, but that on its own earned a sub. You gents are class.

[@brendanpeacock4475]

Great job, guys. I thought the game was won during a brief period of inaccuracy from NZ - kicks too long, not enough pressure, ruck and tackle mistakes. Down to 14 men, they tightened the skills hugely and SA had to defend for their lives. NZ dominated lineouts when Eben went off, held the SA scrum, found gaps. Laugh at everyone who claims the Boks are less fit than every team they play. Amazing to hold out NZ and Telea for so long

[@hennievanderwesthuizen9157]

Absolutely loved this potcast... Agree 100% with your assessment. Good job

[@deer8120]

South africa deserved the win - Absolute beasts! The difference is being able to play at pressure moments, which South Africa is the best at

[@joedennehy386]

If what you said was true, why do New Zealand beat you, way more than you beat us?

[@RC-Kwagga]

⁠@@joedennehy386 not in world cups you don’t

[@geoffdb8118]

​@@joedennehy386🧂🧂🧂

[@amwilliams9483]

​@@joedennehy386then why is NL not the world Champions 😅

[@charliedlamini1671]

​@@joedennehy386used to beat us ,not now mate ,now we beat each other n if I'm not mistaken there's not team in this planet tht has beaten u as much as the springboks have

[@floatpoint1050]

Loved this podcast. Hopefully it will continue to grow until the next world cup. Looking forward to 2027

[@jacobusjrossouw]

Can someone please tell me how many time did PSdT tackle Jordie in the final?

[@dumisaralane]

I counted 5, could be more. There were 3 dominant hits he had on him.

[@craigscoinpurse]

Love your content lads! so so so good! impartial and proper good banter. thank you!

[@JuddLofthouse]

Was Jim in the stadium ? He only told us 19 times 🤣🤣good and fair review 👌👍

[@14nst3w4rt]

😂😂

[@maryjooste6161]

I love the respect you talk about SA's team is really amazing

[@justinarmstrong193]

That match was sooo tense. I checked out the Ardie penalty, and it is quite clear. Law 14: 5. Tacklers must: d. Allow the tackled player to release or play the ball. I think this was the issue, because there was no option there. How does Barnes see all of that within a few milliseconds? He blew well, the TMO however was too invovled and too busy looking for issues instead of letting the game flow

[@lukeshearer9063]

Any sport where you need to drag out the book of legislation to find law 14.5 is a sport that has something extremely fucking wrong with it. Sport shouldn't be this complicated.

[@nicksmith-chandler458]

Good commentary lads. We have a public holiday on dec 15 now.

[@ianbotha9912]

The big thing Rassie did in this world cup was that he placed more focus on who would be on the pitch at the final whistle than who would start the match. South Africa won from the bench, not the starting fifteen.

[@TheDruzza]

Well that’s obvious. However the starting 15 do all the groundwork, the bench take the glory

[@ianbotha9912]

@@TheDruzza No, other coaches picked their best fifteen to start and the next best eight to finish. Rassie picked his bench first, he picked the players who were most flexible or the strongest to be on the bench to either close the game out or to rescue a disaster. That is why he could replace Libbock within thirty five minutes with confidence because a more profficient player was on the bench. that is what all the coaches who fielded teams against Rassie got wrong. Instead of being a reserve to be called up if needed the South African bench was a place of honor with a lot of responsibility

[@TheDruzza]

@@ianbotha9912 interesting… the luxury of having a squad with such depth.

[@OB.777]

​@@ianbotha9912Best reply I ever red sofar Ian Botha you said it best 🎉...Russie took the best player for the opposition to play in the perfect time and position... don't necessarily mean we were from 1to15 had the best player on the field..only my humble opinion 🎉

[@MISSROSE7744]

By the time the game was won Deon was captain on the field so what away for him to finish. Writen off the to finish like that is just wow. This is why this team is just something else...

[@kslice810]

Looking at the IRB World XV of the year, you have to give credit to Rassie Erasmus and Co. they had (arguably) no one else except Etzebeth that stood out on top in their positions, and managed to win with pure squad management and strategy.

[@benjamindewes2345]

The IRB team felt like they were trying placate all the losing teams. Like handing out ribbons to the teams who also shoulda coulda woulda won it.

[@mjribes]

Boys, I absolutely love your podcast. You have very quickly moved to the top of my list. BUT... you missed one of the biggest questions: who will takes the Bok reigns going forward? The Boks are now coachless.

[@HeeniKeke]

Fault with red card is that the team is punished (speaking about all rugby overall). Red card should absolutely remove player from entirety of game…however after 10mins a player from bench could be able to come on But that’s up to WRU

[@rodwellchigome7567]

I like, but I'd say 20 minutes, especially if the carded player causes the opposing team to lose a player and substitution for the remainder of the game. Need to adopt a proxy of rugby league for foul play.

[@HeeniKeke]

@@rodwellchigome7567sounds excellent doing 20….let’s take over WRU and fix things 😂😂

[@rodwellchigome7567]

@@HeeniKeke unfortunately WR enjoy the jeopardy too much. But yeah, change is the law.

[@jameslittle8891]

Just adopt the 20min red card then bring a sub on to fill the gap as per super rugby, I have no idea why world rugby is so against that law change? The frustrating thing is none of these cards are dirty or malicious, they’re a split second timing/technique issue, the full red is too harsh a penalty.

[@dulls8475]

@@jameslittle8891 I agree. Red card should be for foul play only not rugby incidents.

[@TheBibi0602]

I don't watch rugby, but Im loving this Pod, I listened to an interview on how Siya felt with only Eben being put in the top 15 players and he said that's not what they are after. Its more about the team as you guys mentioned. I love the fact that we are a fucking renegade force to be reckoned with. I also think our team adjusts to whatever reality is being put to them and Rassie and Nienebaar are just brilliant in their tactics. Please do yourself a favour and watch Chasing The Sun if you havent seen it.

[@JM-ky2nm]

Can you please discuss the forward pass for the try while discussing ref issues? Makes sense to discuss reffing decisions that went against both sides doesn’t it?

[@RD-sp5us]

Kiwi asked the questions mate. Make sense that they'd only answer the questions asked. Kolisi's yellow was a rugby collision if ever there was one. Force of the collision that caused Savea's head to snap, initiating the contact. Look at it again if you get a chance.

[@tom4213]

(Even as a Welshman)Wayne Barnes handled that final v well, and v professionally. We can always criticise a ref for what he missed, but no other ref manages that game better imo

[@Bobbydyland]

On the head contacts, I don't understand why Kiwi pundits are struggling so much with this: 1) Sam Cains' was picture perfect red card. It'll probably be used by WR as an example of what not to do. Shoulder to facte no drop in height.... illegal. 2) Kolisi's I'd argue wasn't even a yellow. He was bent at the waist. His primary point of contact was shoulder to body. His head then hits the ball and bounces up. It's not DIRECT head contact. It's not dangerous. It's at most a penalty, and probably just a "rugby incident". 3) Kriels' lack of a card. There are angles that show the heads move past each-other. The Sco player bounces off the ball which is being carried under his chin. There;s enough doubt there to wonder if head contact even happened. We don't card player if they might have done something wrong, we card them when it's clear and obvious. Sam Cain's card was clear and Obvious.

[@Alec-sanderMeirellesDoCantoECa]

100% - I saw the up-close slowed down version of Kriel's and was surprised to see the lack of head contact, but once you saw it it was clear. Only thing I'd disagree with is that Siya's tackle was a fair yellow - considering Curry got a red for going in with good shoulder height but making head contact.

[@Bobbydyland]

@@Alec-sanderMeirellesDoCantoECa I'd say Curries should be mitigated to a yellow as dropping. But Curries was direct head-to head, where Siya's head made contact AFTER the ball, which was After his shoulder. So the level of danger isn't comparable. I'd say Curries was more comparable to Damien Willemse's in the Warm up match against Wales. Direct head to head, legal tackle, dropping. So red, down to yellow.

[@Alec-sanderMeirellesDoCantoECa]

@@Bobbydyland 100% - I think Curry getting red was the absolute worst card call of the whole tournament. It's just, if that IS the standard, then I think Siya getting yellow is fair. But I agree, going forward, with how you see it.

[@noleenpeake2164]

That was the best attack vs the best defense💚 🖤

[@matthewvanrensburg3824]

Boks losing Bongi in 3rd minute was massive. The red card brought parity, not advantage to Boks imho such was the impact on the Bok gameplan, intended use/purpose of 7-1 bench selection, everything. 2nd half especially got to see the impact of not having Bongi. Deon played his heart out yes, but he isn't Bongi and was meant to be serving a different tactical purpose this game.

[@robertjan002]

They robbed us of a fair game with the hit on Bongi. They had the skill to compete without this dirty play. Sad that they didn’t back themselves to win honestly.

[@jayarenneilson6049]

8.01 - regarding being checked for concussion - completely agree listening to this discussion, great!

[@pierrevanrooyen1150]

Everyone is getting that wrong, the rev didn’t admit he got the decision incorrect. He just confirmed he did not see enough daylight/release after the tackle

[@johnparsons8101]

Exactly. I'll admit, I head the same as everyone else when I watched it live but after someone told me it was different, I went back to watch the replay. Barnes is clearly not apologizing for getting the call wrong. He's saying it more like "I'm sorry you feel that way, but I disagree, and I still think you didn't release tackled player."

[@powerbite92]

@@johnparsons8101 He admitted he got it wrong. Ardie: "so I was alright?" Barnes: "Yeah" - Goodey is just lying and dissembling about it because that was his job.

[@daangeldenhuys732]

Jim what a legend and legend of commentary. Level headed

[@hayden9944]

Congratulations to the rainbow nation! Give me hope Jo’Anna. Love Kolisi! 🌹From an England fan. We were beaten by the best

[@platvis379]

Enjoyed this Pod very much. Thanx

[@mikeboiler]

Not just the Final, where Wayne Barnes became an errand boy for the TMO, but the WC did a lot of damage to the sport with the mess that is: officiating inconsistencies, TMO interference, and the Bunker mysteries. The massive amount of booing in the stadiums during the games have to be a worrying sign. Rugby will not win new fans if the current debacle continues.

[@margaretmeaker2830]

Sorry i only came across u guys now.. awesome video . Thanks

[@Pontsho_xiv]

The arrogance of the All Blacks cost them the game. they refused to kick for 3 points and also refused to kick out of their 22. thats how they also lost to France.

[@rodeo4786]

They made wrong choices. and the pressure became evident to some like Mounga they had chances to close the game yet they didn't. and that will haunt them. But this arrogance narrative is uncalled for. they took it to the boks and ill bet not a single SA was comfortable till the whistle

[@kentmilburn3622]

Yes the arrogance call is uncalled for. Wrong strategy? Maybe. They were 6 points behind at that time

[@PaulWhiley]

Very balanced offering from you guys - looking at important moments tho, it’s important to note that the only try came off a forward pass - it’s not going to change anything, but it’s relevant

[@davidfife-nm7uy]

Wasn’t forward even though you want it to be