How quickly can HERO dispose of a noob (ME)? | EPT NA Holdout Challenge (Bo3 PvZ) - StarCraft 2

[@CAILZZZ]

You played incredibly well mate ! More than i could dream of ever playing ... but hero i mean ... the second game just seemed like he was playing with his food haha ! Nice video pig and GG!

[@PiGstarcraft]

i am a pig so...

[@CAILZZZ]

@@PiGstarcraft For this video we'll call you "early morning bacon" haha ... just jking :) Hero is clearly the kind of player that make a race look broken! Have a good one buddy :)

[@aarongazzaniga1929]

I must say, your macro and control are still super crisp. I honestly figured you were more on commentary these days. Good to see an "old" time favorite is still going right. Well done mate

[@may_on_fire]

It's crazy how good Hero is. Thanks for the video!

[@marionavarrete8177]

wow, watching pig play without casting is almost.... serene...

[@reaper8113]

Love how hiis head is tense as if it's gonna explode any second

[@Willdreynolds870621]

I swear I feel like a few corrupters would have done it with same build. But I wouldn’t have made it to my first expo. So I’m not even close to that level lol.

[@soulflame799]

Hero pulled facial expressions out of you that I had never seen on a human face before!! WP!! ;)

[@Schlaechter789]

damn he has his eyes everywhere

[@PhillStone]

This will be cool. Gooooo PiG!

[@florianbielawa2919]

7:55 Flo smiles from the sewer

[@ВладиславОстровский-й6ж]

Yeah that video shows why its so hard to handle just because of his tempo and tightness

[@xilial]

you hold up really nicely!!! I love to see Hero playing holdup against noobs

[@Kirkrrr]

Amazing to see you go head-to-head with one of the best players in the world and hold your own.

[@lallarolle]

Incredible to see! gg

[@jeeeeeeeeeeezus]

why would you leave a holdout challenge game?!

[@shurik_skalolaz]

because this isn't a holdout challenge it is just the EPT NA weekly Open tournament

[@PiGstarcraft]

hahaha

[@danm2084]

ouch that second game made me realize he was wearing the kid gloves during the first game. that was brutal.

[@chrisordway7950]

He smacked Rogue around like a redheaded child in a similar fashion, but wow.

[@Supagenki]

wait pig plays this game, and casts it too? crazy!

[@Erideah]

Seemed a little bit nervous there, gl hf'ing twice at the start of the second game

[@theeraphatsunthornwit6266]

Was that your special portrait that blizzard made for special people 😲

[@thevennuii9014]

There were a few moments i thought you'd be getting a stroke soon or something. Nice haircut and you kinda forgot to connect creep at main and nat. Gg

[@Cossaw]

I quite enjoy these

[@juanversion3922]

Hes quiet when he needed to be . 😂

[@OnigoroshiZero]

Great games, but damn herO is so amazing. I love his aggressive style, and I really want him to win this GSL, but Dark will probably be the one that takes it.

[@n1mand]

So....pig does not need to blink, okay.:D

[@ohmyonionpie]

PIG FPV LETS GOOOO

[@Lingboysc2]

I wonder if ling bane hydra could make a comeback against this style? hydras have long enough range to hit the stalkers when compared to roaches.

[@hockeyguy1166]

Hydras are trash units and need a rework. They are just a stepping stone to lurkers... Hydras are countered by colossi, disruptors, storm, oracles... It takes too long to get both hydra upgrades GG

[@Lingboysc2]

@@hockeyguy1166 I agree that they are pretty bad, I'm talking about this style of mass blink stalker/chargelot specifically.

[@WuYixiang]

@@Lingboysc2 Rogue's tried Hydra/Ling and Roach/Hydra on a few occasions. The Zealots just absolutely shred the Hydras, and the Stalkers fight everything else.

[@ledrash6079]

I was thinking about roach/hydra. Roaches tank and can trade vs stalkers reasonable well, especially with hydras in the back. The oracles also will die vs the hydras as well. Then just ling with the left over minerals, if any. Would like to see Reynor or Serral try that vs this stragegy :)

[@Lingboysc2]

@@WuYixiang what about banelings with the ling hydra to blow up the zealots?

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

I'd be nice of you to analyze this VOD and point out your mistakes.

[@PiGstarcraft]

there's a bit of it in the original vod www.twitch.tv/videos/1509409404?t=2h26m59s

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

@@PiGstarcraft Thanks!

[@logik1677]

Pigs the real hero ;p

[@Vaasref]

How many queens do you need to keep alive a spore crawler outside of creep. Would that be a viable option to hide a very small building (can they be hidden in smoke ?) making it extra hidden by the lack of maintained creep (so no overlord barfing too) one would expect of a Zerg player.

[@hockeyguy1166]

can they be hidden in smoke? i think you mean fog of war... lol

[@Vaasref]

@@hockeyguy1166 No I mean the smoke plumes from vent or the bushes.

[@WuYixiang]

@@Vaasref Sight blockers are unbuildable terrain, and Queens can't transfuse off creep.

[@Vaasref]

@@WuYixiang Of course ! I forgot the transfuse change.

[@CheekyPandaTV]

Quick question would lurkers be a good counter to this?

[@ledrash6079]

I dont think you have enough time to get the lurkers up with their upgrades. And if you are investing so much into hivetech, you will probably just die from his constant pressure.

[@CheekyPandaTV]

@@ledrash6079 I mean herO started to really dive around the 10 minute mark g1, I think its reasonable to say that you could at least get some lurkers by then if not have at least 1 upgrade done. Earlier that I think maybe just don't go too far off creep and retain army as much as possible?

[@ledrash6079]

@@CheekyPandaTV Yes, that is true. At 10 min there is a possibility to have hive done already. But just a few lurkers wont deal with so many blink stalkers :)

[@CheekyPandaTV]

@@ledrash6079 I'd be pretty confident that you could get at least 10 lurkers by then, and assuming you didn't trade your ravagers and lings they could supplement a formidable defence.

[@ledrash6079]

@@CheekyPandaTV Ofc you can, if nothing happens. But if Hero attacks when u are teching, you just die, coz u dont have enough to defend.

[@RVens]

SC2 is getting me angry and depressed at the same time... I just deleted the game! My brain is too stupidly slow for this game

[@manthe3711]

Your fault for taking it too seriously. I suck too, it's okay. Just enjoy the game at your level of play, not everybody needs to reach masters' league.

[@teeee8534]

it takes time to practice , first i was bronze league and the more i played, advanced into silver league, and then gold league, then it will take a while to go platinum and there is a quite huge gap between platinum and gold, the more you play the more better you are, you cannot take this as mmorpg dude ..there is no shortcut to be better

[@teeee8534]

also experience on how to handle like cheeses, pushes , micro macro aspect....it takes a lot of time to accumulate

[@Iseenoobpeoples]

You should start by perfecting the basics, I'm talking; using location hotkeys F1-F5 and multiple hotkeys for production and units, I used to play vs easy bots to practice basic controls. If you don't use all the tools available all the time then SC2 will be way more difficult then it really is.

[@aquireeverything9382]

Just play the elite AI until you can beat it, it’s timing attacks are better than most low level ladder players!

[@brianwang9017]

I can kick heros ass but with 1 condition: I create a custom mod that makes battlecruisers invulnerable!!

[@NtrTainUs]

You're an effing god

[@quake7383]

Omg can't get scarier than Hero. Good effort but he was playing with his food I feel. 🙄 off topic can you please ask Frost Giant what end game conditions will be? I don't think anyone has asked. Ie gg, all buildings lost, annilation , victory point counter etc everyone is just assuming .thanks pig

[@hockeyguy1166]

wow PiG you played well, I didnt know you were that good at the game still... what hero is doing just disgusting... the only thing lacking is your creep spread

[@laggrenade863]

Noob question: why does pig put so much effort into catching that probe? Wouldn't it be better to just ignore him and do your own thing?

[@user-nx3zm3ln7m]

You always chase the protoss probe. Cannon rush possible etc. Its the unit that can basicaly solo kill You.

[@FeraI_]

-------------------spoiler's ahead--------------------- Hey PiG, Great, great content as always. Just want to mention one thing. I just watched Lambo vs HerO Valencia group stage match he did play very similar to your 2nd(oracles into stalker play) game with him and he demolished Lambo You said a higher zerg could punish him. But not even Lambo can. -------------------spoiler's ahead---------------------

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

Where's the commentary? Kapp

[@heime1990]

pay any korean pro to do hold up challenges?

[@Tomoyo0827]

This is like most of my ZvP lol I guess every one can be herO when they play Protoss 😅

[@doublecrossedswine112]

I feel like you can't call yourself a noob when you've got 30,000 hours into a game. just sayin

[@Iseenoobpeoples]

Why do you call yourself noob?

[@PiGstarcraft]

its in reference to my Pro vs Noobs series

[@Thomas-ui2lc]

@@PiGstarcraft creep spread was slow compared to pro zerg, but having said that you were rather busy defending oracle harass. The difference in skill between GM players and pro players is quite significant. well played mate