How RFK Could Ruin The 2024 Election

Robert Francis Kennedy Jr. had been an unorthodox Democratic candidate for the 2024 election, and is now pursuing an independent ticket. While many conservatives, libertarians, and republicans had supported Kennedy during his Democratic bid to challenge Joe Biden, RFK's independent ticket could do far more harm to republican chances for victory in the 2024 election, especially if Donald Trump becomes the republican nominee for the presidential election. How will Kennedy's independent ticket spoil the 2024 election?
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[@MonsieurDean]

Ask Monsieur Z Anything

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Would have Juan, Prince of Asturias and Girona managed the Empire better than Charles v and i did?

[@monsieurcharcutier4490]

What do you think about the idea that RFK is being planted in the race by the Democratic party to pull populist votes from Trump

[@MonsieurDean]

@@danielsantiagourtado3430 That I'm not too sure about. Charles V would be a tough act to follow.

[@algernonilfracombe]

Another great video, really interesting as ever, and with a much clearer perspective than half the crap on the internet nowadays Do you have any thoughts on British politics at the minute? Like America, we also seem to be pretty unstable, but with a fraying Conservative government that seems to have wilfully abandoned all the operating principles of conservatism despite making much hay over culture wars. Unfortunately, all the serious opposition is growing increasingly Europhiliac SJW leftist and I for one feel pretty stumped with the whole sorry state of affairs. I completely understand if this is all a bit outside your interest but I'd love to hear your take on the issue.

[@ethanos5442]

Not a question really, but could you make a video on what if the white settlers in Kenya stayed or made a majority in the country

[@fancycactus234]

I hate when people say “ruin” the election. As if people can only want dem or rep.

[@Grimmyr]

It would ruin the election for republicans, and this is a pro Republican channel lmao.

[@StoneynBear]

This needs to be pinned

[@officerbug7089]

he means that it could split the conservatives, meaning that it would just be a democrat landslide which would only piss off republicans even more

[@vyros.3234]

What they mean is he will likely steal conservative votes allowing democrats to win.

[@attemptedunkindness3632]

Pick the boot color you want to lick for four years; red or blue. Choice is freedom.

[@JoMcD21]

Imagine thinking having choices for your leaders is a bad thing. The two party system has blown the population's brains right out of their eyes.

[@johngibb1259]

The 2 parties are exactly the same aside from 2 differences one says what liberals want to hear the other says what conservatives want to hear

[@Frankie5Angels150]

Look up H Ross Perot then you’ll take down your silly comment.

[@johngibb1259]

@@Frankie5Angels150 the problem is the 2 main parties use fear to get people to keep them in power, I know it’s fictional but darth sidious not sue if spelled for said it best “those who have power fear to lose it.” Bit when corporations fund 2 parties doesn’t matter which gets in billionaires control them, we the people have no power. We need to stop this now. Weather it’s Rfk or another we need to stop doing the same thing over and over expecting different results

[@ddanenel]

@@Frankie5Angels150we know who ross perot is, what are trying to say

[@emperorzombie1420]

I agree, but I wanted to say, that that is an interesting expression, which I enjoyed very much.

[@Butter_Warrior99]

Only way I can see him winning is if he can split both parties vote.

[@samgarcia3807]

That is exactly what he is doing right now. He is talking about issues that bring all Americans together rather than hating each other

[@morsecode980]

@@samgarcia3807I still feel like he’ll mostly appeal to conservatives rather than liberals.

[@FlyingAlfredoSaucer]

Which he won't. Realistically, no more than like 5% of Democrats will actually vote for him. Few Republicans will vote for him, but more than Democrats. What will end up happening is he will give Biden a victory by pulling votes from Trump (or whoever the Republican nominee is, probably Trump), he won't win any states, he'll just stop Trump from winning swing states.

[@FlyingAlfredoSaucer]

​@@morsecode980yeah, he's just going to screw over Republicans.

[@steventomasi5557]

From the last numbers I saw Kennedy had the support of 16% of Democrats and 22% of the total population

[@NightMaker120]

The way I see it even if it meant ruining the 2024 election, a electoral vote that doesn't go to either major party is the loudest form of non-violent protest that America has at this time. So, if its a chance to give these parties even the slightest idea on how unhappy we are with them, I am willing to take that chance.

[@lolmao500]

The loudest non violent protest americans can do has always been to go on a nationwide strike... but americans are cowards.

[@no2party]

All well and good until you realize that the decision of who gets to be president goes to congress.

[@brycemuller6662]

If only he wasn't a plant

[@SeanWinters]

Yeah the last time this happened we got arguably the worst president of all time, definitely bottom 5(Wilson). If you're a Democrat, vote for him. If not, vote Trump.

[@robertlivingston1634]

Last time we got Clinton, that mess is still with us today

[@theprofessional155]

I think you should mention that he stated before he opposed gun control . That could cause a ton of liberal gun owners to vote for him considering almost every single democratic politician supports gun control .

[@secretbaguette]

He doesn't. He's a Massachusetts Republican, which means he doesn't care about changing the Second Ammendment, which makes him seriously palatable to the Right.

[@lolmao500]

Not a chance any sane democrat votes for this obvious republican plant to steal votes so trump wins the election

[@AntiContradiction]

Actually most of the country and a good portion of gun owners support "gun control" With the 2nd amendment and a conservative Supreme Court, there's nothing democrats could ever do to seriously restrict law abiding citizen's access to firearms. I'm tired of conservatives falling for low effort NRA talking points. No liberal is gonna vote for RFK over a his firearm policy.

[@theprofessional155]

@@secretbaguetteexcuse me but I have talked to several liberal gun owners who are extremely frustrated with how much democrats attack the 2nd amendment. Having an alternate candidate that isn’t constantly attacking gun rights would cause many liberal gun owners to vote for him. Bernie understood how important the gun owner vote was that’s why he didn’t criticize them. It wasn’t until pressure from the DNC that he flip flopped . RFK isn’t doing that .

[@secretbaguette]

@@theprofessional155 Okay so I'm gonna apologize because I just realized we're saying the same exact thing. RFK isn't anti-gun, which increases his general appeal to the Right even as a Democrat.

[@Cool-123]

Nothing bad ever happens to the Kennedys!

[@Goldenback318]

Cringe

[@delorme9]

I see this comment a lot under RFK Jr videos, is that you doing that?

[@gooseofjudgment3752]

I mean… We’re all thinking it…

[@nickpapadopoulos9978]

​@@gooseofjudgment3752yeah!

[@cernstormrunner7263]

are you sure about that?

[@_new_guy]

There’s no “stealing votes” from any party. Any vote gained was earned as neither Dems or Reps are entitled to anyone’s vote.

[@ajohndaeal-asad6731]

Tell that to DNC or RNC.

[@McClane4Ever.]

Amen

[@watch7966]

Most people don't really know what they vote for. They just vote what their family or education told them to. Which a weakness of Democracies but even Republics. Regardless, no party opposed to the Constitution should even exist in America. Destruction of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd amendments, open borders, socialism, LGBT, abortion: these are all are completely incompatible with the Constitution (Violation of literal amendments?) and the Founders' beliefs.

[@angliccivilization1346]

he could definitely make 2024 much more interesting than the 2016 and 2020 election cycle.

[@robertraymond762]

I think it'll be a long time before we see an election cycle more interesting than 2016 haha.

[@Skeleboy2895]

He's just gonna split the vote and make Biden president and I fail to see how that's interesting.

[@starwarfan8342]

You can't lie 2016 was pretty interesting just because of the novelty factor that Trump presented. And 2020 was interesting because of the unprecedented events occurring in our country and across the world at that time. But you're right, 2024 should be a wild ride in its own right

[@itsawoodchuck4330]

Lmao more interesting than 2016? Are you high? The election with Donald Trump coming down the golden escalator and creating many of the greatest memes of all times, ending dozens of political careers and dynasties, and crushing Hilary Clinton’s assured victory to become president. You think some fence sitting homo that has the voice of a 110 year old man is gonna be more exciting than that? Trump didn’t even do the Republican debates so we lost all the glory and entertainment of that. The interesting things about are the current powers trying to put the front runner in prison, not some geriatric has been that try’s to appeal to high horse centrist that just want a third person so they can act all civilized and better than everyone, who will all then pay themselves on the back for voting for a candidate they new was gonna lose based upon “principle”. All the while the nations burning around them but they’re above the smoke on their high horse so they don’t even notice.

[@ComplexityUnleashed]

​@@robertraymond762the map Is sure to be something though

[@patrickcarney9177]

We have to break the duopoly by any means necessary. No one said it would be easy or fun.

[@Guardias]

After seeing the multiparty system at work in places like Germany, France, and Great Britain...I disagree vehemently. They are far more dysfunctional.

[@secretbaguette]

RFK will be the man to do it.

[@martychisnall]

@@GuardiasYou’re using the UK and Germany, some of the most stable multi-party systems to say why multi-party systems are bad? Really?

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

@martychisnall stability =/= functional or good. Anyway the UK is a multiparty system in name only. It's effectively a 2 party system as all the altnettives are irrelevantly small.

[@alfieingrouille1528]

@@Guardias my brother in Christ if you knew litteraly anything about uk politics you would know it's basically a two party system aswell

[@Nardiumms]

If we take a step back, it’s incredible how most American look at a “spoiler” candidate as a bad thing. If 1/3 of the country wants him as president, why is it bad for them to vote for him to be one?

[@scorpioneldar]

Because for a third party to work you need to build up a local base of support then get congressmen elected. Only then would a third party president be able to do anything. Congress is the branch with the power to do things domestically. A third party that tries to skip the process breaks the system and not in a way that can get anything done

[@scorpioneldar]

We are not a two party system. We are a congressional system. At times we had 3 or 4 parties and neither the democrats nor Republicans were in those starting parties. Small parties can become powerful but the path is through congress. President is the last step not the first

[@capital_of_texas]

@@scorpioneldar Well Kennedy is a Democrat at the end of the day, and he's said he will form a broad coalition with moderates from both parties to work together. Although this will probably create an entrenched deadlock, but a fractured Congress won't change much

[@scorpioneldar]

​@@capital_of_texas the most probable result of this is not a new unity party. but a bull moose party analogue. where a person slighted by their party runs for president but cannot get enough votes to actually win creating uncertainty and a legitimacy crisis for whomever does win (just as how Teddys run against taft created Woodrow Wilson who is often seen as America's accidental president.) . indeed. even if you get the most electoral collage votes you DO NOT WIN unless you get a Majority. in that case? Congress decides who it wants. that's the risk. if you want to win as a challenger. YOU NEED CONGRESSIONAL SUPPORT. he doesn't have it. from neither the right nor the left. he doesn't have the support from his own party. which is why he has to try and strike from outside in the first place. he doesn't have it from the opposition and likely never will. and there are currently not enough independents or third parties in congress to build a base of support from. the idea is a fantasy. it takes consistent effort to build a party from the ground up it took decades for the radical republicans to get enough people to eventually supplant the Whigs and even then the Whigs Dems and Reps all shared power for several elections before the civil war removed most of the dems from the country and the whigs joined the republican's in the crisis. our system simply does not allow for top down party creation no one has seriously attempted a roots up creation since the radical republicans decided to form a party on the grounds of ending what they saw as the twin evils of American society namely slavery and polygamy. yes one of these things is not like the other. but that was the mission statement of the republican party on its creation. we need a real third choice. not a fractious deception that is incapable of functioning in our society. any attempt to run as a third party candidate without an actual third party with power behind you is an exercise in destructive narcissism and creates a third choice even worse than our already terrible two choices no matter how good your intentions are. this is a marathon. everyone needs to stop trying to sprint.

[@spamcheck9431]

@scorpioneldar: that’s insane. Refusing to work across literally no-party-lines is treason to your constituents for not pursuing their interests.

[@SuperZombieBros]

I think Republican sympathy for Kennedy is likely to subside once Trump begins attacking him more frequently and harshly. The same thing happened to DeSantis after a few months. While it’s possible that some disgruntled Republicans may still vote for Kennedy, the same is likely to happen with regretful Biden voters who can’t stomach voting for Trump either.

[@joakos1122]

The thing is that Trump actually respects him and has praised him several times. He did the same with Bernie and says the DNC screwed Bernie which is true. I actually think Trump would show respect but would go after policy differences but i don’t think Trump would attack him like Biden or even Desantis

[@jiggerypokery2962]

The only way a Democrat would vote Kennedy over Biden is if they are a no issue voter. Kennedy is conservative on just about every policy. Sadly you are probably right, a lot of people in this country are no issue voters and just go by feels and a D or R next to a name feels better then diving deep into policy positions the candidates held.

[@sirgags2738]

I disagree, I think DeSantis was shady that’s why trump attacked. Kennedy is a true American just like Trump. If Trump attacks Kennedy. I will disagree with Trump. But no matter I will vote Trump.

[@alexanderchenf1]

Completely false. DeSantis was running as a Republican, and he was awkward in spontaneous situations

[@puddingsimon2626]

@@sirgags2738 desantis got into the governor seat thanks to trump and he backstabbed him, and of course trump took that personal, and I be honest, I’m not even sure if the desantis policies in Florida that made The state so great are actually from him, considering how insanely incompetent his presidential run is . . . . Well run

[@richardtaylor6341]

The best thing that could happen to our country would be for the media to be forced to air a debate between Trump, Biden and RFKJr

[@1776iscool]

I like how “ruining the election” ends up just meaning that you don’t get the outcome you want. That’s real democracy, having choices.

[@watch7966]

And what if you only have bad choices? Is it really your decision then?..

[@danielkurkowski3279]

RFK is the type of candidate I always thought presidents were like growing up. His ability to speak at length about his reasoning for each policy position he has along with citing research papers, history and other countries' policies is such a call to reason. The left is so convinced he is a vaccine denier because of small snippets without the adequate context or having done the work to read the source material he is citing. He has a very good point that most reasonable would agree with. To hold manufacturers of vaccines to same testing standards as other pharmaceuticals. I think its foolish to assume that these pharma companies exist with the public's best interest in mind without further scrutiny and constant vigilance, especially after the widely publicized stories that we all accept like the Sacklers and Oxycontin. This is a real opportunity to start voting for leaders based on their competence and values vs picking the lesser of two evils which has defined our two party system for too long.

[@bros1183]

Yeah but one big issue man, his voice. Not trying to be mean, but it’s genuinely hard to listen too.

[@cliffey2249]

@@bros1183If your literal leaders voice matters to you that much you need to get your priorities straight dawg

[@graytrapfazrich1324]

He probably has throat issues he can easily fix that one with the US surgeon general once he’s elected

[@paulallen2680]

@@graytrapfazrich1324it’s a brain condition, it can’t be fixed as of now

[@joshuadelafuent3]

@@bros1183Tbh speeches would be a problem but the west wing has staff for this so meh.

[@spindragon]

First he was a "long shot", now he could ruin the elect, next he'll win the damn thing!

[@gunpuppy3533]

Longs shot just means he doesn’t have a realistic chance to win. it doesn’t mean he can’t spoil the election, those two things aren’t correlated whatsoever.

[@teresadbrownbrown3785]

Yes

[@Dildobagginses]

Can't win as an independent

[@spindragon]

@@Dildobagginses Right.. They offer us Hillary and Trump and Biden and Trump and expect the past to repeat itself.. People want a REAL populist candidate..

[@honestpat7789]

Is that not how trump won in 2016. He was laughed off as a joke … then he won 🤷‍♂️

[@jpmnky]

I can’t see why more people don’t love this guy. I’m voting for him.

[@stuart4341]

I think he's a respectable person but I'm not voting for him, I'm voting Trump because he's more likely to win but I have disagreements with RFK in regards to gun control among other things. Maybe trump could put him in a Cabinet position or something.

[@rampage241]

@jpmnky how did you vote in 2020 & 2016?

[@Seibafan006]

I think the reason why is because this guy supports Biden's open border policy and his student loan thing, which if he wins, we'll still have to deal with cities being overrun by criminals and such. Another possible reason is due to the fact that he used to be a democrat, which that brings people's trust for him very low knowing what's going on right now with the country and how democrats are dealing with it.

[@matthewdopler8997]

He is literally insane and a one of the most prominent anti-vaxxers out there. I wouldn’t choose him over any other politician that is running.

[@spamcheck9431]

2016 and 2020, I voted the winners in. I regret both of them.

[@jaymevogl4338]

I’m glad that it looks like a lot of people actually know about RFK and his actual stances on things. Instead of listening to what the media is saying about him. He’s by far the best candidate across the board.

[@1ts_Neo]

I was skeptical at first, but i can safely admit i was wrong about a lot of things when i got to see him in person in Augusta. Im definetly going independent this time around.

[@jakoverslept3096]

Be careful this is gonna be a super biased place. Most voters probably have no idea who he is or what his policies are.

[@ryanrex297]

If by ruin you mean make things better then I agree. I’m voting for him to protest the stagnating duopoly.

[@stolenmonkey7477]

I think, in general, third parties hurt incumbents. People vote third parties to get away from the status quo after all. However this election will be different, as a current and former president will running against each other.

[@GScully42]

I for one will not vote out of fear

[@Donald_the_Potholer]

I'd watch Maine on this one. Given that it splits its delegates in the EC, I can see Trump and Biden each winning a district, and its respective delegate, but Kennedy takes the 2 delegates for winning the State at large.

[@adamking4538]

@@Donald_the_PotholerWould be very unlikely that Kennedy could win state wide without winning one of the districts.

[@ericmcpeters6769]

The funny thing is nobody is talking about those who don’t vote because they don’t believe in the system. I am one of those. I WILL be voting for Kennedy.

[@joeybrazda364]

The apathetic voter is the largest voting block. They have strength in numbers to get Kennedy elected.

[@dylanburtoft]

I think people who voted trump in 2020 will vote him again in 2024 instead of RFK meanwhile a lot of democrats who voted Biden in 2020 are unhappy with how it’s turned out.

[@javereswilliams2772]

Or so you think RFK is getting more unpopular with dems he started out at 20% in the democrat primary polls and dropped to 12% as more dems knew about him. In fact most three way polls show Rfk support rising among moderate republicans and right leaning independents so much that it cuts into trumps support

[@deafleppard1812]

This is true, this is my word but I don’t know any other republicans who support Kennedy. Here in the northeast I believe strongly Kennedy will take away many votes from the Biden campaign.

[@RyanMiller-ej8ri]

Thats what I think, I honestly dont see Trump supporters leaving for anyone. This videos synopsis seems to be backwards

[@clasicpotato]

@@RyanMiller-ej8ri I agree, and I could also see some non-voter moderates voting, and voting for RFK just to show disapproval for the other two parties.

[@mrconfusion87]

​@@RyanMiller-ej8riYup! Trump supporters are rabid! That is why his haters call them a "cult"!

[@albenner1]

People should vote for the best candidate that they feel will improve life for all Americans. And I believe RFK Junior, is that choice and will not be persuaded into thinking otherwise it will not be a wasted vote

[@slydwaysdrifter2159]

Anybody that wonders about RFK Jr.’s view and plan for reparations should look up what he actually means. It’s not just a cash payment. He states that it’s a repair. Which means giving ease of our black communities to own homes, businesses, and help with resources to empower those who have limited access to these valuable resources in their community. It helps not only black communities, but everyone. His father was on this path to these communities and spent much of his time in these communities. In the long run, these communities would actually feel more republican and wholesome. What’s wrong with bringing us together with strength?

[@elimiller8442]

Some polls currently have him between 19 and 22%. Theoretically if he pulls enough feom both opponents he only needs 34% tp become president. Based on Bidens and Trumps polling numbers that seems relatively reasonable.

[@honestpat7789]

That’s exactly what I see his best path being. 5% is not a lot in 12 months and the closer he gets the more he could gain momentum 🤷‍♂️

[@greasher926]

But then there is one other issue, if nobody gets 50% of the vote then the decision defers to house of reps. Each state gets one vote. Considering there are more red states than blue states the chances of Trump winning goes up. Likewise, the senate would pick the vice president. RFK might be able to be chosen as a vice president, but it will be tricky for him to convince house of reps to pick him as president. But it’s still his best path to victory.

[@greasher926]

There is also one other issue, most states are a winner takes all, if RFK consistently gets 2nd place in all states he will win no states, and thus no electoral college votes. So he might get a third of the popular vote but still no electoral votes.

[@mrconfusion87]

270 is the ONLY number that matters in a US Presidential Election... 🤣🤣🤣

[@cjvoerman5591]

Do you think 2024 could turn into an 1860 style election, with 4 candidates running almost parallel to each other?

[@MonsieurDean]

Probably not; it's possible, very narrowly, but the momentum for candidates outside of Trump and Biden doesn't seem significant enough.

[@chinchillaruby4170]

I can't foresee a forth person polling as well as RFK. Cornell West and the No Labels candidates I cannot foresee getting more than 3% each. Also a bad year for the Green/Libertarian parties. It is unlikely RFK even gets to poll as well as Trump/Biden though he is somewhat close right now.

[@BlockyNinjaVidz]

@@chinchillaruby4170i mean, that recent poll that has him at 22% is pretty good, better than Perot.

[@chinchillaruby4170]

@@BlockyNinjaVidz I believe Perot at one point in time was polling higher than that but finished with 19%.

[@MrSylvandragon]

something something - trump is ineligible to run as GOP candidate for reasons. runs "3rd party": GOP v DEM v RFK v Trump?

[@AngryGenXer]

RFK is the only candidate I’m voting for. No more pretend two party system with both parties being America last

[@Josh_004]

Kennedy is more pro Israel than Biden and trump

[@Kosovar_Chicken]

I was going to vote for him but I want to see Trump get his revenge now

[@looseygoosey1349]

yayyyy. Biden wins again! hes old but atleast hes not a conspiracy idiot.

[@armaniquintanilla2836]

Bro RFK is a complete nut, he spouts anti-semetic conspiracies on twitter and believes the federal reserve is run by jews

[@mrbuck5059]

RFK will be the same.

[@kathynewkirk683]

I think we need to get away from the 2 party system, they care more about their party than the people. I like Kennedy, hope he wins. He’s got my vote….

[@Kbandz313]

If it’s really a Biden v Trump rematch I’m voting for an independent. RFK will honestly take a lot more votes from Biden just because a lot of people who don’t like Trump/GOP also don’t like Biden either.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

Biden's claim to victory last time came from votes against trump, siad voters are not going to be loyal especially since we know biden popularity has gone down. Said block is almost certainly going to vote rfk.

[@BobectorGamesBobector]

Honestly im with you. Trump and Biden are not the answers. RFK at least gives us something new

[@Talib-904]

Very true and RFK will take votes away from non MAGA Republicans either so it will hurt both parties a lot

[@Da__goat]

I’m genuinely surprised he was even running on the Democratic ticket because literally everything he said was a JFK Democrat in the 60s and a modern Republican today

[@White_Recluse]

He supports reparations for black people

[@Maelstromme]

He wants to raise taxes on the rich and supports a student loan forgiveness program. Based, but far from modern Republican policies.

[@joakos1122]

He believes in science & climate change action and also wants weed legalized which is very far off from modern republicans.

[@asain3586]

​@@Maelstrommewhy would student loan forgiveness be a thing?

[@areafurrynone1913]

@@joakos1122The fact that these beliefs are seen as liberal and not just common sense is just so disappointing

[@secretbaguette]

RFK can be a serious contender just so long as he makes sure to stress that he is independent. There are a lot of people now in this country who are sick completely of the Democrats and of the Republicans and who would love nothing more than an independent candidate to take it all. There's roughly equal numbers of these people on either side of the aisle as it sits, and while both parties have consolidated for a show-down behind their respective candidates, Biden and Trump, there's enough people in the general, everyday population who are sick of those two that RFK can plausibly win, without even counting people who haven't voted in previous elections. It's entirely possible that an independent can bring new voters out of the woodwork who haven't voted before out of disgust and apathy for the two-party system. I suppose I don't see him as a joke candidate, because I know the numbers of people in this country who hate our current system and want to see someone break the mold are not insignificant.

[@Frankie5Angels150]

If you believe any Kennedy is anything g other than a Democrat I have some swampland in Florida I’d like to sell you.

[@secretbaguette]

@@Frankie5Angels150 He's a Massachusetts man. I know the politics of my home state and the politicians from it. If anyone can chart a middle path it would be someone from Massachusetts, name bias or no.

[@Maelstromme]

@@Frankie5Angels150”Anyone who wants to help the common man is a democrat.” Dude has some pretty decent policies so cope. What do republicans have to offer, tax cuts for TikTok influencers and Mark Zuckerberg?

[@puddingsimon2626]

@@secretbaguette you know nothing boy

[@secretbaguette]

@@puddingsimon2626 If you can't tell me why you think I'm ignorant I'm not just gonna accept that.

[@brandondriver99]

Im a conservative but i would vote RFK in a heartbeat

[@mythicalheff]

You know he supports reparations right?

[@brandondriver99]

@@mythicalheff I don't need a president to support or believe in everything that I do. I just want a president that will do a good job.

[@casualverse]

​@@mythicalheffbased.

[@captaincrusader]

Then you aren’t a conservative

[@brandondriver99]

@@captaincrusader and you're no-true-Scotsman

[@phantomphan873]

Amazing how RFK jr. can actually hurt Trump

[@funveeable]

Nah, it hurts Biden more.

[@malcolmdavidson955]

I don't think RFK Jr will hurt Trump.

[@visorij3374]

@@funveeablelol

[@gingerbell07]

I’m honestly not sure who he will affect more, but I do believe he’s a better option than either of these old fools and I am considering voting for him.

[@danielkurkowski3279]

Listen to his long form interviews particular about what the media misrepresents about him. Its so obvious when Fox news misrepresents the Dems and CNN does it to Republicans. Conservative and liberal media sources are both attacking RFK, but if you listen to what he says and does and not what others say but cant prove its truly impressive, especially compared to what we have been getting used to from presidents.

[@TimelessFoodTravels]

RFK has a great chance to save the country if he can keep up the momentum.

[@rageofinfinity2032]

You know... you're not acknowledging the possibility that RFK just... wins. I get that it's a long shot and all, but in an America so polarized, not only does it seem like it's what we need, it could be that regularly electing independents might be what saves this country.

[@plpong893]

I’d vote any independent…who’s not an anti-vaxxer or conspiracy theorist.

[@Donald_the_Potholer]

A third party win would be either miraculous or diabolical, and we won't know which until 2029 at minimum. But I think that a viable Kennedy campaign would more likely lead to a Trump *Harris* administration. Which would probably be America's "Jump the Shark" moment. If Matt Gatez's Mutiny last month wasn't that moment already.

[@zoomer9686]

BRUH HIS CHANCES OF WINNING ARE LEGIT ZERO

[@rageofinfinity2032]

@@zoomer9686 not zero. Anything with a nonzero chance is inevitable given sufficient time

[@rageofinfinity2032]

@plpong893 then you wouldn't vote any independent and if you yourself claim being independent you're a liar because you don't actually support it, and are standing in the way of progress.

[@mr.patriotjol]

Kennedy can at best be written down on the ballet, but I don’t think it will hurt the republicans as bad as democrats, since many independents would still vote for trump or Biden

[@richardthefox3412]

American politics are in a real pickle now: The establishment is often more electable but either does nothing and hurts Americans, the anti establishment who might be able to do stuff is seen as too scary to normies. And Desimps tend to just want more of the same.

[@landon8214]

Who ever votes for the establishment? Ask most people which sounds more appealing, a president for the status quo or a president for sweeping reforms?

[@mrconfusion87]

​@@landon8214Right now the status quo ain't working for most people! I would NOT call living paycheck to paycheck being "prosperous"... 😅😅😅

[@landon8214]

@@mrconfusion87 That's a point

[@billybill1272]

Dude is a massive liberal democrat. I doubt he gets as much conservative support as polling suggests.

[@OldenburgIR91]

More than you think

[@samgarcia3807]

He is getting a lot of republicans and democrats to come together on issues that we actually agree on. Liberal means freedom and a lot of democrats forgot that.

[@noscopingderpy]

@@samgarcia3807disavow freedom

[@Sebman1113]

@@samgarcia3807I don’t know why people would agree that vaccines are bad, I’m a republican and I strongly believe many things are objectively good and can be bipartisan but I always thought that included preventative healthcare.

[@chinchillaruby4170]

@@Sebman1113 RFK and his children are vaccinated mind you. He opposes a law that exempts vaccines from liability. (IE: you can't sue vaccine makers for harm caused by the vaccine) He also has a similar stance on nuclear energy which I believe has a similar exemption. (RFK also criticized the shutdowns)

[@AgentPerry8018]

Idc who gets elected as long as it’s not Biden.

[@christianchellis9057]

My prediction is that while Trump and Biden will still get very many voted. RFK will get electoral votes from a few swing states, and probably Nebraska or Maine. That will push the election to the house of reps, of whom I think will settle on RFK, Jr.

[@Aaron_Guest]

There is no way the House puts RFK in.

[@samgarcia3807]

Don’t give me hope like this

[@901Wes]

Bad fan fiction

[@secretbaguette]

I can't agree specifically on electoral mechanics like that, but I believe you're right that RFK has better chances to win than most people give him credit for.

[@Donald_the_Potholer]

First up, since when are those swing states? They just work different in that the winners of each District get that District's vote, regardless of who wins the State at large. Granted, I can see a scenario where Kennedy carries Maine _as a whole_ but Trump and Biden get a plurality of votes from one district each. There's also states like Michigan and Colorado who are trying to *bar* Trump from the ballot. Kennedy could be an option for the spoiled Republican ballots in such states. That all being said, I think that the ultimate end of a viable Kennedy campaign is a Trump *Harris* administration: our first *split* administration since at least 1880!

[@bigbizz3503]

I've met him personally and he's one of the most amazing men I've ever had the pleasure hands down. Real American values, civil and unalienable right, and most importantly, upholding and protecting the Constitution and protecting the people. I faithfully stand with RFK and I've never trusted a presidential candidate or president in my lifetime.

[@sebastianebittar3366]

The CIA with the 250 dollar hunting rifle:

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Love your political videos z! Keep them coming🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@MonsieurDean]

🫡

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

@@MonsieurDean 🫡🫡🫡

[@monsieurcharcutier4490]

Agreed, great content lately. 👏

[@dairebulson7122]

I don't know whose vote Kennedy will split more, assuming his presidential bid goes through, but I really just detest both parties so much

[@saladmcjones7798]

Not very surprising coming from the guy with a Donetsk/Luhansk/Russia combo flag as their profile picture. Speaking of, what are you doing on KZbin? Isn't there a war machine in need of cannon fodder you should be filling?

[@keviran4079]

the only people who are cannon fodder in this war are ukranians that zelensky is forcing to stay in the country.@@saladmcjones7798

[@yertnert2624]

Cant wait for RFK voting for him!

[@GScully42]

Lol voting for who you want to run is the only way forward, don't let fear stop you from voting your choice.🎉

[@randolphsam1]

He pulls way more democrats than republicans. The guy is for reporations

[@chinchillaruby4170]

He did a podcast with some black folks where he said he would not support black reparations much to their dismay. It is possible he would support reparations for native Americans but idk about that. Current polling I have seen suggests he likely won't change the winner and will just increase voter turnout, but a year is a long time to pander to different groups.

[@Salty-Doggy]

He is also a gun grabber if I heard correctly.

[@abdullahfahad53]

@@Salty-Doggyno he’s not. He’s not in favor of taking peoples guns, the trump campaign pulled out a old quote he made like a decade ago and since then he changed his mind

[@williamcainevoiceacting]

He definitely does not pull away more Democrats than republicans. I've literally never seen a single Democrat say anything positive about him whereas he has made a lot of good press in more politically right wing circles

[@chinchillaruby4170]

@@Salty-Doggy used to be. He also used to be pro-open border but he changed his mind after visiting Yuma Arizona and seeing the affects of an open border policy. I don't know why he changed his mind on gun control but he has said he won't take anyone's guns away.

[@samhack7249]

Wouldn’t be surprised if CIA try to get the trilogy, considering his stance is similar to his uncle and father.

[@iamthinking2252_]

… I don’t think the other Kennedy’s really had a big platform on vaccines tbh. Not sure what’s his moonshot, or his Out Of Vietnam equivalent

[@jimmypetrock]

Love these videos!

[@CHEESE3194]

He sounds like my ideal president. Thank you for securing my faith in him.

[@o_titan3874]

I wouldn’t be worried, Kennedys don’t tend to stick around long

[@kelvingriffith3801]

He is the best thing that has happened to American politics! RFK for President!!!!

[@CastawayHikes]

I would vote for RFK Jr. I voted for Trump in 2016, I voted for Harambe in 2020, and I would probably vote for Harambe again in 2024. RFK Jr. would only be stealing a vote from a murdered gorilla (rest his soul)

[@squeallymaniac]

🤡

[@newwaveinfantry8362]

4:07 - Joe Rogan is not a conservative figure. He is very much on the left. The fact that he upset the left in recent years doesn't change that.

[@arturojimenez1921]

I am a Mexican-American, but Kennedy is a real American not a sellout

[@Nope_handlesaretrash]

America already sucks. Let's break things and see what happens.

[@ulfskinn1458]

A hard reset might do wonders.

[@iamthinking2252_]

Wasn’t that why people voted for Trump

[@Rownoscc]

He’s not a republican or democrat, finally something new, I’d vote for him

[@ricklepick5829]

Don’t forget if no one gets 270 in the electoral college system congress just gets to pick whoever they want without regard to the voting process.

[@doreeneclose6295]

No he could WIN and that would be fantastic! Go RFK!

[@chrisruef3201]

Thank god for RFK jr. It's strange how you introduce him as some type of radical ? He's the only one who has the resume of actually has gotten anything done for the " people " - that actually pertains to ALL the people.

[@marten779]

I think it's safe to say a bunch of people died because they believed his lies about vaccines. What an achievement.

[@decegrease]

I mean he's an anti vaxx conspiracy theorist, being openly against science seems pretty radical to me

[@SzYmOn-zf4ws]

@@decegreaseI see CNN and MSNBC have already programmed your brain. Questioning the safety of the vaccines and questioning whether they even tested them before vaccinating people is not radical. Questioning big pharmas is not anti science. This is a guy who actually gives an f about you and other people. He is only attacked by the media because he can’t be kept on a leash by the parties and their rich friends.

[@chrisruef3201]

@@decegrease I heard that statement mutiple times in the last 3 months. They all seem to come from the same propaganda source. Naturally, I did some homework on his background, and I see nothing wrong with questioning institutions or demanding transparency from a said organization. - Medical, Science, or Government. I admire your ability to be so trusting. I undoubtedly miss that quality from my youth. I think we can admit 3 years after the onset of Covid-19, we know of some of the unintended consequences of this vaccine. You are aware that this isn't a true vacine ? It's called Gene Therapy ( you can do your own research - try the New England Journal of Medicine ) or look up - Regulations. Gov. - Just so your aware, in the 70's scientist started Gene therapy trials - devastating results. It does look promising for cancer treatments though - thats a one size fits all cure , but our immune system aren't homogeneous, each one of us are wired differently. Humans are fallible, and that includes Scientists.

[@paulallen2680]

@@decegreasehe’s pro climate change and his kids are vaccinated. He is against the COVID VACCINE being forced upon the people when it was not tested as much as other vaccines considering the knew way the Covid vaccine work.

[@philosoraptor1423]

It would be great to have a pro-civil-liberties administration. It sucks that Americans have to choose between what rights they want to risk being taken away from everyone.

[@MrCreatorCC]

I don’t understand why people do not like more dishes in the menu. The way I see it, let the people decide no Congress and Lobbyists influence the decision. Being’s forces to only choose between the two worst of the country. Yes I’m ready for real change. Kennedy Shanahan 2024.

[@louisnall3102]

I’m probably voting RFK, partially for the fact he’s not Republican or Democrat.

[@aname4390]

💀

[@louisnall3102]

@@aname4390 if he wins, that’s great! If he gets a good chunk of states and splits the vote for either party. That’ll tell them to get their act together.

[@aname4390]

@@louisnall3102 he's basically a Democrat plant 💀

[@louisnall3102]

@@aname4390 when the choices are Mr. Dementia Mr. on trial constantly. I’m going with the middle man. that and he has some opinions I agree with.

[@aname4390]

@@louisnall3102 if anything, being on trial constantly shows how much of a threat to the establishment he is. Most politicians are involved in insider trading and are war criminals. Yet we rarely see anything done to them. Being persecuted by a corrupt establishment is a positive if you can handle it.

[@Leavemealonenowplz]

I think RFK is interesting, because for everything thing he says that I find reasonable, he says another thing that sounds absolutely bonkers.

[@kbaker2023]

Then you look up the bonker stuff and realize maybe I was the one who was bonkers for thinking a media company who is funded with 70% pharmaceutical ads in non-election years would not try to label someone who is for vaccine safety as anti-vaxx. That reminds me, I need to speak to my doctor about Otezla that include risks of severe diarrhea, nausea, vomiting or increase risk of depression.

[@boiledpepsi]

i wish he would win, but i dont think its gonna happen.

[@secretbaguette]

Vote for him. What's the worst that could happen?

[@AgentPerry8018]

@yujirohanmaisbestdaddidn’t he say he’s pro non interventionist?

[@passtherum2010]

If it comes down to Nikki Hailey vs Joe Biden, RFK Jr will 10/10 get my vote

[@Johnrich395]

Kennedy gives an out for people who don’t want to vote for Trump, but recognize that Biden has to be removed.

[@GameLord-pb2ec]

There are a few of his views that I don’t agree with, but I may vote for him just to stick it to the two party system.

[@piggywiggy1820]

If you're a republican and cant bring yourself to vote for Trump, vote for Kennedy. If you're a democrat and cant bring yourself to vote for Biden, vote for Kennedy. A Kennedy presidency would be nation changing.

[@Weasel_Face333]

A lot of states have what are called "Sore Loser" laws which make it really tough to get on the ballot as an independent if you ran in the dem/GOP primary. Also really doubt anybody's going for this guy except voters that want a third party and planned to go that route anyway.

[@tylerkoch5255]

VOTE KENNEDY, THEY WANT US TO THINK WE DONT HAVE A CHANCE TO FINALLY CHANGE THINGS…BUT WE DO, JUST GET OUT AND VOTE

[@willikins5095]

Truly a TNO moment

[@lolxdyyyyy]

What's TNO?

[@Blackrew]

hoi4?

[@natenae8635]

@@Blackrewyep

[@martychisnall]

@@lolxdyyyyyleave the internet forever, you uncultured swine.

[@bocchithean-cap3404]

Grow the fuck up

[@undergroundman5153]

There's no way that he's ever gonna win Iowa.

[@joeybrazda364]

I fucking hate the two party system and I’m tired of pretending I don’t

[@youngoden4106]

Was gonna vote for him when he was a dem. Now I'm going to follow him into the independent party. I hope many of yall do the same because 2 parties aren't enough.

[@AD-en5dq]

How many parties do you want? a parliamentary system? Less than 20% of the vote?

[@SoberBhoy]

get him on a debate stage with trump and biden and he will win in a landslide

[@Alex_FRD]

I don't care who wins as long as Joe loses.

[@necromater6656]

Why? He might as well be an empty suit, its just the internal democrat heads that are actually running the show.

[@babecat2000]

I don't care as long as Trump and his followers lose

[@visorij3374]

Lol, he is gonna win

[@user-jc2in3cp3g]

@@HisCoconutGun😂

[@YoelRekts]

That would be crazy what you stated in 4:52 lol

[@dillon4248]

Saying RFK is more of a Republican is wild. He's a classical Democrat. Healthcare, pro choice, climate change, supporting workers and families. The Only "Right" positions are on vaccines, freedom of speech, and guns. But to me, I always thought allowing people more choice with their body and rights was a "left" position. So he's more true left to me than anyone else. Most people have never actually heard his positions from him. I'm voting for him

[@kbaker2023]

If it comes down to Biden, Trump or RFK I'm voting RFK. Biden isn't the same person when he ran 3 years ago let alone the person he was as VP, his mind isn't there. If the DNC opened debates that would have shown the world. He can't go through a speech without losing his train of thought, I'm still trying to understand what the one word he said that sums up American, he ended the war in Afghanistan, left all the gear and still increased the defense budget the following year. As much as I love watching Trump 'shake up' Washington it's not like he put the fire under Hiliary like he said he would, there was no 'draining' of the swamp, he should have put a stop to lobbying or at least made an executive order to expose the people that would try to stop it. I hope they stay as 1 hit wonders.

[@chinchillaruby4170]

As it stands he is currently estimated to be taking a bit more votes/doners from Trump than Biden from recent polling but when he 1st announced it was actually the opposite slightly in votes at least. I think his Palestine/Israel stance alienated him from some would be voters on the left/libertarian wings though he likely picked up new voters elsewhere. By far most of his voter base and doner base are nonaffiliated with either party so I think he will likely drive up voter turnout and not affect the winner unless he makes some interesting moves with VP, national debates, ect.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

I don’t think that’s true. Didn’t a couple of the latest polls show Biden losing out.

[@goldspartan4858]

He takes more from Brandon.

[@hia5235]

Conservatives will never vote for RFK

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

Yeah! Get rid of third-party candidates! Two crappy choices is best! In fact, get rid of the two crappy choices. One crappy choice is better than two.

[@night6724]

Why have 3 crappy choices when we can be like Belgium and have a half dozen of crappy choices?

[@Kolateak_]

Actually, get rid of choices, then there's nobody crappy to choose!

[@chinchillaruby4170]

We need an anarcho-monarchist society.

[@EuroMaidanWasAnInsurrection]

@@chinchillaruby4170 Worker Coop Direct Democracy of North America

[@happyhusker1163]

RFK all the way🎉

[@oceancat7723]

Oh boy. I hope so. I hope he ruins it completely and wins! 😅

[@Utsu-P_Enjoyer]

I simply do not agree that would be Trump voters would break for RFK, the more you get to know him the more you realize he's super far left on most issues even more than Biden, he just happens to be more honest about government corruption and is against foreign intervention. In which case you're better off with Trump anyway because Trump actually has the chance to win, he has the vendetta against the administrative state and uniparty establishment and he has a proven track record of helping spread peace not war.

[@xdanbo1859]

Saying Trump is a peace candidate is telling a lie. The guy had the NeoCon warhawks like Pompeo, Bolton and Haley in his admin. And listen way too much Graham.

[@doreeneclose6295]

One day he hurts the dems, the next day it's the repubs😂 RFK said it well, they're both right!

[@misfortuneteller24]

I sure hope so. Sick of these two parties trying to sick us on eachother. Long overdue to make a statement, but I doubt the people have the balls to do so.

[@infinitedonuts]

How is Trump considered as antiestablishment? In terms of rhetoric, completely; but in terms of policy, thatI could not be further from the truth. He’s all talk and no walk.

[@dubachatron4094]

Because the establishment has tried to get rid of him since he was elected.

[@nonverbalpie8151]

Put Biden, Trump or Vivek and Kennedy on the debate stage and you'll have gold.

[@iamthinking2252_]

Vivek’s just gonna mirror trump

[@crackin2000]

Kennedy has my vote absolutely.

[@kingofthefleetians7569]

Not if the CIA has anything to say about it

[@AirborneAndy1]

Believe it or not, there are more American voters registered as "Independent" than there are registered as either Democrat or Republican. We just need to vote Independent!

[@iamthinking2252_]

Most independents are just democrats and republicans who don’t like their party!!! (They just hate the other one more)

[@adamhenrywalker]

He’s liberal on virtually every issue. He won’t take many votes from Trump.

[@JustinCage56]

The point being that it'll be /just/ enough to tip the balance against Trump's favor. Don't get complicent

[@cherokeevolfusa2891]

He can take a lot of votes from Biden just because of his poor performance. Trump's base is going to turn out for him, but Biden doesn't have a base, and he is constantly making different wings of his party angry at him. I think while he theoretically takes evenly from both, he might take more from Biden just because his voters have more to abandon him over.

[@javereswilliams2772]

​@@cherokeevolfusa2891if you think democrats arent gonna all line up behind biden in 2024 i got news for you. Democrats always complain about everything until its time to vote, same thing happened in early 2020 when half of democrats cussed biden out and by November look what happened every democrat lined up behind him

[@nathanmiddaugh6986]

If it means Biden is no longer in office, he’s not ruining anything.

[@stuart4341]

Did you watch the full video? According to the narrator, he's increasing Biden's chance of winning

[@SisckoImper]

@@stuart4341just let them be idiots

[@clasicpotato]

@@SisckoImper I think he misunderstood the video, also them? I don't see multiple people

[@controlmyownlife8902]

What is RFK's thoughts on illegal immigration? If he is not 100 percent committed to closing the border, he will not get many republican votes, especially in Texas and Arizona. This is solely the only reason I am even willing to vote for Trump.

[@nathanaelbreuer9554]

This is why we need ranked choice voting. We won't ever rid ourselves of the duapoly as long as third-party votes are wasted.

[@texastacoss]

only reasonable comment in this shitstorm

[@codyj.braunva5406]

Look, I like RFK but he’s nothing but a throwaway imo. I just want Biden to lose by any means necessary

[@mintcrisp94]

He's already lost. Biden's support of Israel has doomed him, it's split the Democratic vote especially amongst black and Muslim Americans. The question now is, will an independent win or will they only take enough votes from the Democratic party to help the Republicans who are still fairly high on support for Israel. The only way the Democrats stand a chance is if they put forward a highly anti-Israel candidate, which if they do they will likely win.

[@chinchillaruby4170]

to be fair, in 40 states, your vote is a throwaway anyway due to how noncompetitive they are. At least for president, maybe the school board elections are close.

[@babecat2000]

If you want Trump your a fool.

[@rcdune7132]

RFK JR 2024!!!! 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲