How Rich Dad, Poor Dad Became The Ultimate MLM

[@supernova622]

Man, learning about the content of this book has brought so much into focus about ppl who talk about it like it's gospel

[@littlegeo1]

So incredibly true. Someone close to me is like this and this mindset has only led to them making what I would consider poor decisions in business development and investing. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@cokedust]

I had a coworker into this book and yea it explains everything, 😂😂

[@InnerWorkWithEvan]

"Being an employee is a scam" remains a greatest hit here on countless hustle culture 'success' channels.

[@francookie9353]

I mean ... even from an anti-capitalist perspective, it's kinda true. Just not in the way econ dudebros think.

[@ElliBeenie]

I once listened to an interview with the author and got extremely angry because of this message. Like, there are tons of jobs that just need doing. If everybody strived to become an investor or landlord or whatever he is suggesting, the economy would collapse. Doctors, teachers, garbage collectors, delivery workers, retail workers, etc. are needed. Investors are optional. The arrogance of people like him is a slap in the face of any hardworking employee. We should adjust wages so that work allows people to build good lives, rather than telling people to try to live off of their investments.

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

​@ElliBeenie Exactly. This lie is hilariously ridiculous. You go to the store and there's food on shelves that robots cannot (yet) do. Your car needs to be repaired and there's someone to do that, who very well likely isn't the owner of that business. The very clothes these people wear were made by a regular worker, the food they eat was made by workers on farms. As you said, if everyone owned their own business, the entire world would cease to exist, but the answer isn't to look down on those people, but to recognize the important contributions they bring.

[@InnerWorkWithEvan]

I've also had conversations with young people graduating high school deeply concerned that college is a scam but so is employment, and they should somehow try to be entrepreneurs at 18 otherwise they will be slaves to the matrix. It's quite destructive.

[@Lonovavir]

Regardless of what economic/political system a nation has a large percentage of the population, say 80% has to work boring practical jobs. Even if we all had PhDs from Cambridge, we'd still need people to manually fix cars, mow lawns, etc.

[@FrznFury27]

I think the heart of the issue, for me, as someone who was abandoned in their early teens and has spent my whole life getting bombarded with this crap by people who were born on second base thinking they hit a home run because they discovered the arcane secrets of house flipping, is that NONE of them are watching this. They're not curious or open-minded or interested in whether the first thing they read on a subject is true.

[@colleenemal5182]

I was young and dumb. Went to one of his “free” shows. I spent over $200 on his books there. Still regret it to this day

[@ApolloSuns]

Oh no! I know a couple people who got duped. Sorry to hear it

[@josephsager9425]

The $45k class price sounds like an intelligence filter. People who are smart enough to know their $45,000 is best invested elsewhere will nope-out when they see that price tag. That way, he's left with people who are either stupid or desperate enough to give him all their money. When they realize the class is worthless, and they've wasted a massive amount of money, and "sunk cost fallacy" themselves into thinking they need to give him more money.

[@Lonovavir]

Yes, just sinking $45,000 into say, the NASDAQ is a much better idea.

[@brendashope1558]

Intelligence and wisdom or savvy are not necessarily the same thing. I know someone who is above average in intelligence (as it is measured) but they are book smart, not “life smart”. They fall for many emotional manipulation scams

[@emilyau8023]

I love this alternative view. Do Dave Ramsey next.

[@fortablet2933]

Definitely

[@TheRobstargames]

What is the general feeling about Dave Ramsey over here? I find his advice to be extreme, but also feel like it would be perfectly good if it had a cup of tea and calmed down? Like, the fundamentals are correct, he’s just a bit hardline.

[@amyholland6924]

@@TheRobstargamesIME Ramsey is just really hardline on certain things that don’t necessarily work for everyone (or even *most* people in some cases e.g. using 15 year mortgages only).

[@TheRobstargames]

@@amyholland6924 I can see that. Also, I should add that when I the fundamentals are correct, I mean his financial advice, not his politics…

[@funsize5441]

​@@TheRobstargames DR baby steps works for me 🤷‍♀️

[@Iamso4u]

Watching y’all talk about this book has made me realize I am 100% content NOT playing the game if it means stepping on others to garner wealth.

[@SusanaXpeace2u]

I like being an employee. 37bhours per week. Security. Benefits. Stress free weekends

[@classicsciencefictionhorro1665]

Kiyosaki says you are a failure.

[@richelles1756]

I love this series so much. My parents were both in Amway, and my dad never stopped talking about this book and basically any and all of the teachings of Zig Ziglar. It's been hard watching my parents jump from MLM to MLM trying to chase "independent wealth," but hearing intelligent take downs on this type of content is what my soul needed.

[@susanstephan7689]

As a spouse of a recent military retiree thank you for mentioning military spouses in your discussion of MLM targets. It's really pervasive in that community. I also listen to Life After MLM podcast, so if you're interested in diving into this topic more with someone who specializes and has personal experience with MLMs, I'd recommend having Roberta on your show to discuss.

[@amandadube156]

when I wanted to start investing in my 20s, the internet recommended this book over and over again. I read it, and remember really enjoying it as a biting satire of capitalist politics. It's basically a grimdark dystopia being told from the perspective of the villain. I had trouble believing anyone with half a brain could take him seriously. Then Trump became a prominent politician and it suddenly wasn't so funny anymore. They didn't have time to cover it in their book review, but if you really want to be horrified you should read the throwaway chapter on charitable giving at the end of the book. It's basically prosperity gospel without the words for it. Basically, in a nut shell, "poor people deserve their fate for being so bad at money. Rich people who exploit the poor get that way by giving more than they get. So if you think about it being a business owner is the ultimate form of charity."

[@briannickel5131]

For a minute I thought, "People still listen to this forgotten clown from the '90s?" And then I remember that this is the country that elected Trump twice.

[@Lonovavir]

Kiyoskai's books have great sales numbers to this day. There are too many drifters who cite him as their role model or at least mention his book.

[@shadowninja6689]

No we only elected him once, he's a two time popular vote loser.

[@bmay282]

..this mentality helped get him elected, cuz according to the logic of this book... it's "smart" not to pay taxes and exploit other people.

[@charis6311]

I think the common denominator is people who like to fancy themselves als 'predators' who are successful because they prey on other (productive) people.

[@emilyau8023]

Should a man be the head of finances in a household? Gender should never be the factor. My dad almost sunk the family in debt, and my mom saved everyone.

[@SusanaXpeace2u]

not an uncommon story

[@alexandraro901]

„Choosing to be rich every day“ is such a Barney Stinson thing to say 😂 Right along the lines of „just stop being X and be AWESOME instead!“

[@judithvictoria3109]

Totally 💯!!!! 😂😂😂

[@MonikaOum]

Haha have you seen that 'choose rich' crypto guy (nick o'neill) around on social media? 😅 Like, wooooow... I just have to 'choose rich' and that will solve all my financial problems. Amaaaaazing insight **sarcasm lol**

[@PhinClio]

There's an excellent episode of the If Books Could Kill podcast about RICH DAD, POOR DAD.

[@mayaimani7679]

I read it when I was 12. I thought it was problematic then. But It’s hard to find books that explain “what the rich do” at a 3rd grade reading level.

[@Tnya099]

The UK version is basically Harry Potter. Posh boarding schools, magicking up unlimited food, huge sports stadiums on school grounds. (jk I totally get what you're saying) (urgh JK)

[@autismworldtravel]

Lmao 😂

[@saeedhossain6099]

12:16 rich dad-poor dad, demonstrated, in an unvarnished manner, that America is a 3rd world culture with first a world economy.

[@coneil72]

"There is no room for human life outside of the context of generating money." WHEW!!! Preach. This is the American way.

[@gangliaghost8720]

A guy just recommended this to me lol, said no one has the "right mindset" when i said "no dude, I heard that book is bad."

[@faithcrisis2138]

Oh my god, I haven't heard of Amway since my mom and grandmother made me take their gross vitamins and use their cleaning products when I was a kid. They also did Avon and Mary Kay and now my mom sells Young Living products. They've always had a individualistic 'grind until you make it' mentality. I'd rather have a job that just pays me well for my skills. (I make one hell of a lemon drop martini.)

[@unamesitif457]

I am loving this series, thank you so much for putting this together! 👏👏

[@alyssasketchd]

I played Cash Flow with my family as a pre-teen and read the book after at my own father’s recommendation. I’m almost envious of people who got anything positive out of the book because I just felt a deep rooted hopelessness. The only lesson that stuck with me was that the key to wealth was real estate and no one in my family had the means for a real estate empire so wealth felt inherently impossible after reading.

[@cupcake5003]

Can you please make a video on self help books written by Mormon priests? I just did a quick search and noticed that there's a shocking number of bestsellers and the writers are all Mormons. Plus those books never acknowledge systemic issues, and do a ton of victim-shaming.

[@TheMisternyan]

MLMs and Mormonism go hand-in-hand. There's a reason a bunch of them are based out of salt Lake city.

[@AprilFriday-de6vm]

“Priest” isn’t a vocational title for Mormons. It’s a rank which all young men obtain in their teens. All participating males “hold the priesthood,” starting as deacons at age 12, then teacher, then priest, and if they go on a mission, elder. There is a great video by Alyssa Grunfeld on the world-building fantasy novels, such as Twilight, written by Mormons. Her premise is that world-building is baked into the Mormon experience, so fantasy writing is more natural in a sense. The culture is also a natural breeding ground for prosperity gospel scams, MLMs (the curse of Amway), and basically all kinds of trading on the implicit trust between members to take advantage of others.

[@RestrepoStyle]

I guess the question becomes, what books are good financial books?

[@andersonisowo9603]

None that don't include math, or sound like a cfa wrote it. Anything else should be categorised as entrepreneurship mythology and ignored.

[@lisgridcarranza1008]

Ramit Sethi

[@TheMetalGaia]

​@@lisgridcarranza1008Ramit is awesome! I love his empathy and compassion.

[@ktburger659]

There’s a great book called “the Psychology of Money,” a lot of people loved “Your Money or Your Life,” and John Bogle’s books are good for those interested in the “get rich slowly” mindset :)

[@Lonovavir]

I attended one of the free seminars when I was 20 and thought it was amazing until they told us the real seminar costs $500. Then I realized it was a scam and walked away with 18 other people.

[@squish7073]

…he also did a pbs special. I think that helped vet him as an authority on the financial literacy instead of the con he really is.

[@aj2thamaxx742]

18:58 I love mention of the MLM wife to rich dad, poor dad husband pipeline. It needs to be talked about more 🤭.

[@LorenaAbreu]

Literally got giddy when I saw this upload haha. You guys are just fantastic

[@Will140f]

Can I just say, I always really appreciate this channel but this video in particular and the previous one about Rich Good Poor Bad (that's what I'm calling it from now on you can't stop me) have had me laughing aloud to myself. More of these type of videos please :)

[@saeedhossain6099]

7:03 sorry to nitpik but yes, there are people who own banks, the ownership structure of financial institutions is quite varied, shareholder owned, memeber owned, individual owners. Joseph Kennedy, JFK's father famously owned a bank.

[@DocsGreetingCards]

He checks all the grifter boxes. self-help financial guru, "free" seminars looking to rip you off, "passive income" strategies, MLM advocate, gold / silver bug, and now crypto. I've been following him for about 25 years. He frequently predicts crashes that never happen. This guy is a major creep and a pathological liar to boot.

[@CinziaDuBois]

I was WAITING for this episode

[@coneil72]

Is this series going to continue forever? Yes please!!

[@bmay282]

So excited for this convo.. totally loathe rich dad poor dad!!

[@ItWasSaucerShaped]

...i'm kind of relieved that someone had to ask 'what is amway?', as that suggests the business is finally fading from cultural memory amway was the first big, 'mainstream' MLM. the initial hook is getting you to warehouse a bunch of overpriced stuff in your garage which you are then supposed to somehow sell at a mark-up to people. this of course will not work very well, but now they've got their fangs in you with a sunk cost fallacy and also your garage is full of their crap, and so they convince you that what you need to do is 'recruit' people (scam people) into becoming your sales team - which involves said people buying into amway products and, more critically, amway cassette tapes i presume the cassettes went away long ago and were replaced with something more technologically appropriate? but they were the heart of the 'business' at its height amway sold you a set of extremely overpriced cassettes supposedly containing sales magic that would transform you into a super sales person so you could finally get your garage rescued from the stuff amway filled it with. this of course would not work, so amway then told you, 'aha, what you REALLY need to do is resell those cassettes, and keep yourself updated on our latest, cutting edge sales technology by continually getting new tapes for yourself' some people argue that this functioned like a cult, and while that may have been true for some folks, what i saw was somehow even sadder than a cult. people who knew full well that what they had bought into was crap, that they would never sell a single amway thing other than maybe a cassette tape, and so they just kept going in hopes that somehow they could get their money 'back' by becoming a grifter and stealing from other victims. which is exactly the situation amway wanted to engineer every dollar that amway made came at the cost of turning good people into thieves :|

[@danielintheantipodes6741]

The reason why Amway is not illegal is because they don't have compulsory sales levels. So they can't come after you if you don't sell the 'right' amount of soap (their product). But I find it an ugly company because it is all hard sell and based on signing on new people underneath you from whom you receive a percentage. Ghastly model, unless it has changed over the years. (My information is from many years ago.) I despise this book. I bought and read a couple of them. I ended up throwing them out. Thank you for the video. Appreciated. PS: USD$45,000?!!! And by now, probably far, far more! Shocking!

[@CassieDavis613]

30 years ago it felt cultish

[@phactress891]

I believe mlms being mostly women is a more modern phenomenon. Early mlms I think were more dominated by men. Prior to the internet being used by the public, the mlm catered to the door-to-door salesman type. Oldschool mlms like Amway, Koscot, etc., were definitely more men. But I think the ability to access the internet has made it easier to target stay at home moms. Also, Amway is unique in that up until recently, they were extremely determined to recruit mostly couples, and actually incorporate the couple into the business model itself.

[@fearsomefawkes6724]

I don't know about the origins of mlms and who they targeted, but the practice of targeting women pre-dates the world wide web (1989). Here's some examples off the top of my head: Tupperware, Mary Kay, Alouette, Pampered Chef, Avon, and Herbalife.

[@simplytelling7638]

I can't remember those kind of advice discussed in the podcast but I must have filtered it when I was 12-13 at the time I read it. It was helpful to me at that age because it made me focus on cashflow, budgeting. Which severly paid off in my adult life. I guess I'm lucky I filtered out what discussed and looked at it as just focused on the cashflow part of the book I was interested in. I guess a good rule in life is to take everything with a grain of salt.

[@RedNailsRedDress]

Your video was so timely!!! Rich dad poor dad just had a HUGE news article yesterday down south and was talking up bitcoin like it will be the fix all money maker. I had no idea cryptocurrency could also be an mlm 😮

[@tinabean713]

it totally is

[@littleredcar2926]

I would've loved to hear more actual analysis of the book instead of just disdain. Like, I agree with you on most of it, but I came to learn instead of to hear three people telling each other how smart they are to hate the book.

[@greeneyes1313]

I had the exact same thoughts while watching this. Alternatively, this would have been more compelling to include someone who agrees with the book to get some interesting back-and-forth banter or criticism.

[@littleredcar2926]

@@greeneyes1313 I read these books because I was in an MLM. I want to know - with facts - why they were wrong because I'm still unlearning the BS the company taught me.

[@laltrametadimarco]

My dad has recommended this book to me a few years ago, I read a few pages and DNFed it. Watching this really made me understand a lot of things lol

[@sandrad801]

Loving this conversation.

[@bonadventureconyers2015]

Rich Dad Poor Dad was so eye opening because CPAs have been so successful in convincing the populace that GAAP plays a role in a company's success. That book was basic management accounting.

[@coneil72]

"and the trick is crime" hahaha Yes!

[@valerienavarro5454]

He became famous from being on the Oprah Winfrey show.

[@Fabdanc]

I would just like to give kudos to how fast one of the hosts is speaking. She is getting out so many words at the speed of light.

[@ApolloSuns]

I think if im in conversation with people and they praise this book and its "ideals" i will most likely end the conversation haha

[@sistermadrigalmorning233]

Wow, never this early. Glad to hear the rest of this topic.

[@markkinz7913]

I remember reading this book as a kid and just kept asking, "yeah, but where does the seed money come from?"

[@jenhesse22]

Love the second part ❤!

[@FrznFury27]

The trick is indeed crime.

[@clszabo1s]

I just realized it's been almost a decade since I read this book and all I really remember learning from this book (that was actually helpful with my life) is the difference between an asset and a liability and how to read a balance sheet. Guess all I have to do is replace that with a couple charts I found on the Internet and ditch the book lol

[@MrAlligator3]

Loving this collab. ❤

[@Jessica-n2y7j]

I actually know a woman in a pretty wealthy family (her husband owns multiple legitimate businesses - a trucking company, a construction company, and also owns multiple properties that they rent out) who quit her teaching job to do MLMs full time. At first it was Arbonne, then It Works! and now she sells Lifewave and calls herself a "Doctor of Regenerative Medicine." She has a phony PhD in Quantum Integrative Medicine. She was my 8th grade English teacher and I really liked her. When I looked her up as an adult, I was horrified to see what she was up to. I lost every bit of respect I ever had for her.

[@IshtarNike]

People might think it's good to run a profit as a country but thats because they've never sat and thought about it for more than 5 seconds. As a business you want profit so you can go out and spend it elsewhere. As a country there is no "elsewhere" to spend it. A national surplus does nothing but sit in the treasury doing no one any good. A country should want to break even AT MOST. And deficits aren't even that bad because they represent the government putting money from the public sector into the private sector at large e.g. both businesses and private individuals.

[@abetterlivedlife]

I read it many years ago, before it was big I guess. I didn't find it useful and why so many people raved about it always confused me. That said, as a woman who always worked in male dominated fields, I found "Lean In" to at least be interesting. There was nothing new or ground breaking, but it was reassuring and reminded me of many things I could be doing to work on my career and get around problematic men.

[@RubyOnixx]

To this day, I'm like, damn, my Dad was right when I joined Beachbody 😂 He immediately compared it to the mailing envelopes of money pyramid scemes. To my defense I was 22- my brain wasn't fully developed. 😂

[@jorlowsky469]

It’s a good introduction into personal finance but it’s as basic as basic gets. Just taking the practical advice in this book is good. Everything else is gibberish

[@CassieDavis613]

Why are MLMs so prevalent with LDS members? That has been my experience.

[@UrMom-v6d]

The MLM exploits the structure of a church and also SAHM

[@GiblikJovanovic]

The approach in Nifestixo The Hidden Path to Manifesting Financial Power ebook is mind-blowing. Feels like I've stumbled upon the ultimate shortcut to wealth!

[@andrejakolarevic977]

it's really crazy how nobody is talking about the book, it changed my life

[@mheuman]

Exploiting your friends and family for profit....what a way to sucess. SMDH, thank you for taking this foolish with Grace, humor and truth.

[@Strong-man]

I wonder if this book is more “effective “ to recruiting men is because we lack some of communication and relationship skills that three of you clearly have. I read this book many years ago and didn’t pick up what you easily recognized. I appreciate your insight.

[@EggheadJr1]

I think it's interesting that they make the connection of Kiyosaki, and The Donald without mentioning the books they wrote together.

[@0HxB0Y]

The trick is crime 😂

[@walterhoward5512]

I've come to realize that a lot of people don't understand money, economics or even how businesses work. Once you accept that fact, the popilarity of books like this, MLMs and crypto make perfect sense.

[@fisrebel]

Would be cool to have this series continue on other mega advice sellers (with focus on the finance side of it) maybe the two marriage advice sellers (love language, and gottoman) and the gender-roles/marriage work in them

[@MitchMitchellStories]

I bought, then read, Rich Dad, Poor Dad in the late 2000s. I was enjoying the book until he got closer to the end... where I totally thought he was crazy and wrong regarding what he was saying. Then a couple of years later he was bankrupt, and it turns out he's been bankrupt multiple times. I'm glad I never followed any of his advice; most of us would have been hurt by his reckless beliefs if we had.

[@JaySmith-pv2mw]

The only consistent method of getting rich quick in America is to convince others that YOU have the secret to getting rich quick.

[@Comicallycanadian]

BEAUTIFUL SHOW! loved every minute of it and was legit sad it was over. lol if your goal with personal finance isn't to live a humble life free of money stress and instead just trying to earn fast cash so you can get rich you are going to have a bad time. the phrase that crypto is just MLM for men is so god damn true. 10/10 keep up the good work.

[@carolinaluna2453]

Love this ❤

[@VeraZholondz-Koonz]

I love your videos usually but this one was an exception just because of the word salad the lady on the left toward the camera was spitting out. Just. A. Word. Salad.

[@sparkymularkey6970]

Watching at 1.5 speed helps. 😅

[@alitansill7267]

Great guests

[@doomedwit1010]

The one guest needs to learn to stop talking over people. Like she says interesting things, but so does everyone else. I say this because she can be a really engaging guest, but it's a skill worth working on. Admittedly I have been trying to for 30 years and I still struggle with it. I'm sure she knows. I'm not saying she's a bad person! In fact it tends to be a bad habit among naturally shy people.

[@ArmandoTrades]

They are reading it, but they only want you to read certain parts. I get approached by MLM all the time

[@queen_curlygrl8870]

Then there is "Rich Woman" by Kim Kiyosaki

[@ChiCityLady]

It's an AMWAY book. The original MLM!

[@danieloduntan1983]

This was so great to watch, couldn't stop laughing

[@alexking358]

I have a hard time believing what these people say because most is interjection and inflammation. Yes he is a gold shill but he doesn’t make money off other people buying unless it’s from him. His book is dumb af but I don’t think they are reading into WHY it is truly dumb.

[@NotOurRemedy]

The housing crash of 08 was not because people shorted the market.

[@eralonuva]

I graduated in 2001 and paid a total of $68K for a private college (with some scholarships).

[@gurrrrlish]

ppl stupid enough to pay for his classes deserve the ripoff

[@neshadee]

Second! Love this channel!

[@SonOfIroh]

My mother is the reason I know this godforsaken book

[@tinabean713]

I remember that episode of Below Deck. It struck me as so weird. Doesn't timing really count for stock trading? Why would you conduct a course someplace that's definitely going to have choppy wi-fi? Oh yeah, because you're really just looking to hype yourself, not nail timing you & your students' trades.

[@theguy134]

I read this book fresh out of college, and I thought it had some interesting concepts on passivity. However, it takes such a bludgeon to labor values I found it disgusting. It took the "invest your money" concept to a cold evil end.

[@stimepyc3523]

Read the book, enjoyed the book... apparently took the right lessons from the book, and forgot the rest. (Granted I was not NEW when I read it, but I wasn't experienced in Finance stuff either.) I STILL think there are some good lessons in that book, but yea. Lotta BS as well. If you want to read it (for whatever reason) Library or used is what I would recommend. Don't give this "Poor Dad" money. As for the Man, The LEGEND, the Myth.... Well... He's nuts. QED

[@ijeomaokafor-j9c]

Classes: Free to 495 to 45000 LOLLLLLLL

[@chelseashurmantine8153]

42:45 talking about cybertruck owners

[@spencerlenoir6987]

I bought this book after hearing it recommended all over the place (now thinking about it, I kind of wonder of people just recommend this book because people they respect recommend it?). I made it a few chapters and it didn't feel right and stopped. I gave it away because I didn't want it. I kinda wish I had it still so that I can shit on it

[@korenaBOB]

I've listened to the audio version of this book and kept thinking "none of this makes any sense" throughout the book. I thought that maybe I wasn't money savvy enough to understand. Come to see that he's talking out of his ass for most of the book. I really dislike that the "financial influencers" have this book on their shelf and rave about it. It's a waste of time and money. Thankfully I listened to it for free on YT.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Now I have to remember who to unfollow because they talked about this book.

[@lukehanson5320]

He and Trump actually wrote a book together several years ago, "We want you to be rich." Just a continuation of his usual shtick.

[@dawnslight98]

How does anyone get past the age of 20 without learning what Amway is? 😅 I WISH.

[@maryhackett3654]

Isn’t there a word for people people who want powerful from property starts with an f? Was big in Germany? Feudalism?

[@UrMom-v6d]

Yes lol

[@rachelhall6287]

Overall a good conversation of a book that is constantly mentioned when talking to newbies about personal finance. The book does seem to cause harm to a lot of people but is still praised (kind of like crypto). It was tiring that the reviewers kept alluding that only uneducated & thoughtless people have differing financial or political opinions from them. It seems totally normal that if a current financial system or political party isn’t working for someone, they are just going to select the other option. That doesn’t mean someone is thoughtless, just that they need a change or have different motives from the reviewers.

[@MsJujubee3]

Like like like like like….. omg the woman in the tank top 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@KenmanG1982]

She could fry bacon with her voice

[@TheMule1]

The book is Ironic. From 'Rich dad' to 'Poor dad.'

[@nnn-i5y]

Extremely random to see the Celebrity Book Club girls on here

[@chipie1002]

I havent been herenin a while and nearly dodnt recognize your new look

[@feliciafelicia6965]

Ive never read the book, never knew what it was about. His ideals are really wierd though. Interesting watch.