How Russia Makes 3,000,000 Artillery a Year

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[@WarPigstheHun]

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[@WarPigstheHun]

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[@EdmundLoh]

Who else remembers the news headlines “Russia is running out of tanks, ammo and rockets” since April 2022?

[@fenrir7878]

At the time they were.

[@ryanthorne5432]

The Russians got a lot of artillery ammunition from North Korea

[@alhginarinque7479]

NATO officer

[@Taskandpurpose]

its facinating to see what can change when you pour more of your countries resources into military

[@Shoelessjoe78]

They are running out of tanks and afvs. The only reason they haven't is they're spending their Soviet inheritance. It's a nice trick but you can only use it once. If you want to learn more about it look at the recent loss data it's a lot of older Soviet era rolling stock. And if you cut it up month by month you can see it's getting older and older. As far as artillery shells if they weren't running out why would they bought all that s*** from North Korea?

[@dirzydoo2785]

People out here thinking that nations can't adapt during a war.

[@highdefinist9697]

Well, it doesn't exactly help that American keep denying that there even *is* a war...

[@paulh009]

The question is: Can they adapt quick enough?

[@DeltexFPS]

well, democracy loses to autocracy in the speed of decision-making during war

[@DuckDuckGoose13]

​@highdefinist9697 what on Earth are you talking about?

[@alexandrnoskov5437]

@@highdefinist9697 Ukraine is not part of NATO or the EU. This is a tiny potato republic with no industry. But it has other advantages - legalization of drugs, corruption and cheap cocaine for Zelensky. For the United States, Ukraine is just a tool against Russia. Two years later, Russia has doubled the United States in terms of GDP growth (data from the World Bank), Germany is transferring industry to the United States, Biden is no longer shy about giving an invisible hand and stumbling. Both are pathetic losers.

[@Soshiaircon91]

The reason why Russia can produce 3million artillery shells per year is because they didn't charge 90k USD for a bag for bushings.

[@MrDJAK777]

No but they paid for 5 million bushings and got 1 million. Who knew corruption could be diverse yet so universal.

[@menzbercedes8962]

Ukriane aid:- 37 billions we have stolen... uh invested in fortifications" - Ukrainian politician Georgiy Birkadze makes gaffe on live TV😂😂

[@esanahka9284]

Russian bot spotted​@@menzbercedes8962

[@henria.277]

​@@menzbercedes8962Sure buddy, they have not received 30 billions in cash.

[@PresidentsPlayPARODY]

but how are we supposed to launder funds for black projects without the 90k$ bushings?

[@GorrilazWarfare]

this can't be true, some guy with a dog avatar told me russia lost 200 million soldiers per day

[@ИванИванов-ф3з2н]

Хорошая шутка, но потери убитыми и пропавшими без вести, 50-100 тысяч за войну. Если кто-то сомневается, не сомневайтесь. Большие потери, не позволили бы сейчас наступать.

[@GorrilazWarfare]

@@ИванИванов-ф3з2н Все потерянные жизни - это трагедия, и я не сомневаюсь, что на фронте существует мрачная реальность потерь. Шутка, которую я отпустил, была невкусной, извини. Огромное количество невменяемых людей в Интернете любят думать о погибших россиянах и восполняют усугубляющиеся потери, чтобы почувствовать себя лучше. Война печальна для всех и многие погибли в реальности за малое. Извините, если моя шутка пришла с злонамеренного места.

[@enshk79]

Hahaha that’s a good one

[@mi1400]

but how come russia is managing to bring artillery within ~60-80km range of targets despite ukraine/US have dominated through drones and ATACMS/HIMARS!?!

[@UAuaUAuaUA]

That was a ruzzian dog who barked victory day every day of the year 🤡🤡🐒🐒

[@Kecher13]

What I like in Americans the most, is that they really think all other nations are idiots.

[@ivanlesovik4431]

А мне не нравится , они в массе сами дебилы , если судить о их искусстве и массовой культуре 😂

[@BrianFoster-ji9fp]

I don't think so. People in the USA don't pay any attention to the outside world at all.

[@yourname-dp8xw]

@@AL-lh2ht Having no tanks is much dumber. Look at the stockpiles of nations. No allied nation has a large supply of modern tanks, they are just too expensive. This is why during war time everyone resorts to quantity over quality to win. The USSR lost 3x in tanks during the Battle of Kursk, but the Germans were far outnumbered by the sheer number of tanks and since Berlin was 1700km away then they couldn't simply resupply.

[@ggho-b8e]

@@yourname-dp8xw there are so many sources that tell german tanks are shit so its not just the sheer number german tanks are also super unreliable, clunky and the soviets also had air superiority most of the time so quality always wins but more importantly training and tactics just look at desert storm.

[@adamwsaxe]

@@yourname-dp8xw The cost of modern weapons systems has skyrocketed since the early 20th Century, true, but operating a force of ATGM-equipped armored vehicles is probably smarter than operating T-62s and T-55s--if one had to choose. Russia has nowhere near the numbers of tanks we always associate with the Soviet Union. European land forces actually outnumber Russian, something no one in NATO would have ever thought possible in 1991. And its not as if Russian tanks of WWII were crap--far from it. And into the 1950s, Russian armor was qualitatively equal or superior to anything in NATO. So the image of big & low tech Russia--then and now--is a little misleading.

[@johno1544]

80% of casualties wow artillery is still King of the battlefield

[@t.n.h.ptheneohumanpatterna8334]

Always has been since even the napelonic era

[@ДанилТютюнников-в9ф]

Or if in Russian motto of the Rocket troops and artillery "Artillery -- god of war"

[@HouseholdDog]

Even more so with the advent of drone warfare.

[@FactNinja]

I would argue drones are king in this day of age

[@HouseholdDog]

@@FactNinja When combined with artillery. Absolutely.

[@Taskandpurpose]

NOTE: There are CONFLICTING reports here. According to a report from CTI those 3 million artillery shells include MLRS rockets , and 1.2 million 152mm artillery shells BUT on the OTHER Hand CNN reported they spoke directly to Pentagon officials that stated it was literally 3 million artillery shells though, so it's conflicting reports.

[@BuckeyeRutabaga]

I don't think munitions from Iran and North Korea qualify as an "outside aid". Neither Iran nor N. Korea can afford to provide "aid" to Russia. Instead, they are getting cash, various concessions, credits and other benefits from Russia in exchange for their shells.

[@SRDPS2]

"3*(his edit#1) million munitions of other type including [etc.]" Go figure, good old trick Russia (and other people) also use when counting (12000-23000) tank

[@stankovich7990]

Because Russian leadership is smarter than clowns leading the West.

[@pedrorequio5515]

This is correction I was looking for, I would like to point out that the most recent US army numbers given to Congress point out that the Army plants will reach the 100k 155mm shells a month sooner than expected next year, that means 1.2Million of just the 155mm for the US alone, that is enough to feed every Ukrainian cannon easily, with an European step up, it will out produce Russia by late next year easily.

[@paulbade3566]

If I understand correctly, Russians count short-range rocket launcher tubes (e. g., MLRS), tank guns and mortars as artillery, so that does add up to 3 million artillery equivalent rounds produced in Russia. Westerners make a distinction between rockets, so the clarification is helpful. Thanks.

[@ЭвМ-ЭффектвМассы]

1) The author claims that the reason for the sharply increased production of shells in Russia is its authoritarianism. Although in fact, the main reason for the effectiveness of the Russian military-industrial complex is that it is almost entirely state-owned (unlike the United States). 2) There is a video on the web about how shells are produced in the USA. And this is a very outdated production. 3) To believe Ukrainian (and Western) propaganda about Russian weapons is ridiculous. It is enough to recall an endless series of stories: "the Russians have missiles left for three days", "Russian are dismantling washing machines to create missiles", "Russians are fighting with shovels", "Russians destroyed such and such objects, but all their missiles were shot down". There is no limit to the nonsense carried by Western/Ukrainian propaganda. Although I also do not urge you to believe Russian propaganda. PS. I will believe in the existence of American democracy only if someone who is not a Republican or a Democrat and is not a billionaire or a native of a political dynasty becomes president.

[@rndofpipowe]

Yours P.S. is only true definition of the democracy in the US

[@martinsmith9054]

I saw an inquiry in Congress where the US Airforce payed $90,000 for a handheld bag of mechanical bushings. That's all I need to see.

[@OzzyBloke]

And yet the media would have you believe that Russia is more corrupt than the US.

[@CryptoBond007]

I also saw this, those bag of bushings in china or Russia would cost 90 dollars. Not 90,000. I immediately thought of Fraud and the us Government taking tax payers money.

[@DJAKONDATM]

Capitalism. You want it - you got it)

[@Guiltank]

@@DJAKONDATM no, just capitalism at the brink of corruption. Capitalism still is the best system, but as any man made system, it is just as weak as the people acting.

[@motorcitymadman146]

Money laundering.

[@omgitsabloodyandroid5161]

Russia has ALWAYS relied very heavily on artillery

[@sqr2024]

What are they 10 or 20 to one in accuracy against the NATO artillery?

[@omgitsabloodyandroid5161]

@@sqr2024 when you are flattening a city, accuracy not needed

[@Adenrux0]

@@sqr2024 it doesn't matter because after massive attack you'll be either dead either shell-shocked and won't be able to continue battle.

[@deriznohappehquite]

@@Adenrux0 It does matter because your logistics system has to move all those extra shells to the front.

[@ravenguard0098]

Yeah its one of the main aspects in how they built their modern army though fortunately(or unfortunately if Ukraine goes on the Counter Offensive) their army is supposedly built to fight defensively rather than offensively relying on rail for most of their logistics.

[@tjoftjof]

CNBC stated in March 2023 that Russian soldiers are fighting with shovels because of lack of ammo

[@Fullgrym]

Wasn't it the BBC? I'm quite sure the media who reported it quoted a british intelligence report.

[@flow5718]

Them Russian shovels sure hit different!

[@Tom50-kf6rw]

Then they strapped shovels to bombs to make glide bombs. 😂

[@JustChill-zd4ib]

They were wrong... No reason to repeat someones wrong assumptions over and over.

[@Ro-nu7vv]

How tf do you do that ? 😂

[@youcantata]

Artillery was, is, and will remain as the God of War. That is why here in South Korea, Dept of Defense has nickname of "Dept of Artillery". Both South and North Korea army are indulging on artillery firepower seriously. They are crazy on artillery firepower.

[@FireteamJoker]

I spent nearly a decade in artillery and was told in the end that tube artillery was on it's way out and rockets where the new 'it'. Still hard to believe that old school artillery can turn the tide of battle.

[@highdefinist9697]

They are two very different system, so suggesting that one replaces the other doesn't make much sense. One 155mm artillery projectile costs ~$1000, maybe up to $3000. A ballistic precision rocket, by comparison, is easily $100k+. While the latter is better in basically every way, it's essentially a quality vs quantity question, and sometimes the extra quality isn't so important, so you just want extreme quantities. So, they serve very different strategic purposes.

[@heyhoe168]

It does not. But it is and will be important anyway. Just like tanks.

[@gestapo81]

is not "old school" if the shell travels for 50 miles.

[@magnetmannenbannanen]

millions of rounds matter.

[@Digueirazz]

In 100 years, artillery will still be the king of battlefield.

[@usun_politics1033]

Makes sense for Russia to rely on arty, they are land based power and usually doesn't cross oceans for adventures, unlike the US. Russia relies on EW and AD to deny skies.

[@elmerkilred159]

They aren't very good at defending the skies from drones, & missiles, tho.

[@JayzsMr]

@@elmerkilred159no one is cost effectively

[@usun_politics1033]

@@elmerkilred159 better than others arguably. Their ew is so aggressive, it causes a lot of suppression of own capabilities.

[@islandwills2778]

@@elmerkilred159 have you actually looked at the size of russia? Thats a LOT of territory to defend. I reckon that if the USA were subjected to drone and missile attacks they would get through as well.

[@rdsc.455]

​@@elmerkilred159 But as per Wikipedia and other sources Russia shot down or destroyed about 200 fighter jets, different types of big cargo and other aircraft and Helicopters from the start of this conflict on 24 February 2022 i. e. destroyed near about all of its airforce.

[@tsugumorihoney2288]

Also, Russian 152 mm HE shell cost from 400 to 650 bucks, NATO 155 mm HE shell now cost around 4000-8000 feel the difference

[@JK-qn9qr]

Russia: WAR ECONOMY. NATO: INFLATION TO THE MOON. FUCK THE PEASANTS>

[@DlanorAKnox-ur2bf]

this price is imposed because of the extra 3 millimeters

[@VashtheStampede007]

How else can NATO countries have higher per capita GDP? 😂

[@mikewlazlinski4309]

​@@DlanorAKnox-ur2bf Nope. It's got other things.

[@vladimirkostic9932]

@@mikewlazlinski4309 I think dude is sarcastic of course is other thing. 😜

[@pilgrimemmanuel.6148]

Just as a side note as someone stated earlier, Roscosmos, Russian state space Company got one of American chemist & astronauts (Tracy Dyson) to the ISS last month and brought one back (Laurel O'Hara). Plus they launched another Angara 5.

[@stap1er]

That’s because the US is funding spaceX instead of NASA projects, which is years behind schedule and actually going nowhere.

[@eatshit8034]

@@stap1er the reason they’re funding space x and not nasa is due to cost effectiveness, Space X launches every week and for the majority of the time is able to recover their boosters. Look at the price of SLS, Look at the Price of the Delta 4 Heavy. Space X is going somewhere considering they already have launched 6-7 missions to the ISS, and launch multiple times a week- they have hit such a fast laumch cadance that we know they’re capable of launching 3 times under 24 hours (because they have already done it.) in fact, Crew Dragon is the only natively made capsule that flies to the iss. Where is dream liner? Where is orion? Where is dream chaser?

[@MrKotBonifacy]

...and then during some wars in Netherlands "back in time" there were some "joint comitees" supervising safety of dams and windmills (doing the drainage pumping) while soldiers of both sides happily killed each other on battlefields... And, oh, BTW, yes - that "joint" means exactly that, military engeeners frm BOTH sides of the conflict. But I digress here, and, erm... what's yer point? If any, that is...?

[@pilgrimemmanuel.6148]

@@MrKotBonifacy my point is you're too dumb to understand context.

[@nedialkosimonov3893]

US rejected new contract with Roscosmos for new engine in 2019. Thats why US astronauts need russian rockets to reach ICS 😂😂😂

[@garykendall3776]

One point is that, during the "quiet" periods, Russia kept their old military production plants just ticking over so that the expertise was retained. e.g. Uralvagonzagod kept only one tank line going at low production rates, and built trucks on the other lines. As soon as demand rose, the trucks were hived off to another plant so that all lines went to tank production.

[@JK-qn9qr]

Unlike the west, where they just shut the whole thing and outsource everything...Putin's smart.

[@Henry_the_Eighth_]

That's Soviet/Russian doctrine in a nutshell. A factory in my city used to produce missile guidance units. With the fall of the USSR they started to produce civilian electronics, with only one part of a factory still producing aiming modules. Now, as I've heard, they are producing mostly guidance modules again since that's more important.

[@mi1400]

but how come russia is managing to bring artillery within ~60-80km range of targets despite ukraine/US have dominated through drones and ATACMS/HIMARS!?!

[@masoodjalal1152]

@@mi1400 If you think that then you really need different sources, the war is not really going in favor of Ukraine, it is going to end like Armenia, where the media made the people believe that Amenia was winning and videos from Azerbaijan were being censored. Then when Armenia surrendered, everyone was surprised. Free media in the west is just a fancy term, the media is regulated and very much controlled.

[@Shade-j4c]

@@mi1400 What kind of superiority are we talking about? :D ATACMS/ HIMARS are only a couple dozen. Russia has a thousand artillery pieces, MLRS and tanks along the entire front. Russia has dozens of times more drones. + Absolute air supremacy

[@Surv1ve_Thrive]

1 reason. In Europe, we stopped making ammunition and, crucially, ceased the means of production. Us Brits were disgusted by the gradual closing of all domestic means of production. One thing we used to do well. Although, of course, we have interests overseas to create what we need. It's not ideal.

[@zach6210]

the west's 'interests overseas' they rely on are the stockpiles of 2nd and 3rd world nations which they strongarm and, in the case of countries like pakistan, outright overthrow the governments of in order to procure the goods they need. It's the same way america has 'interests' in syria. these cost cutting measures are coming back to haunt the west -- there are only so many countries that can be pressured to send aid for the west.

[@Operation_C4]

Having learned about the absolute state of British military readiness, this whole Ukraine debacle must really be twisting the knife.

[@Mgrow]

@matiasd.c9949 BREAKING NEWS: You have to weld tortoise shells over your tanks because their amour is complete trash... ROFLMAO. And you used a comma as a fullstop because you're educated in Ruzzia.

[@considerthis9007]

​@matiasd.c9949 Shame about the experienced Russian tank crews though. When these men are killed they leave behind grieving mothers, wives, and children growing up with no fathers. Russia doesn't care about its people.

[@romanmanner]

@matiasd.c9949Putin still has no balls

[@spaceguy564]

"Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl." - Frederick the Great

[@brutalikcz532]

read that in Wargame red Dragon voice

[@rubengutierrez19]

What voice?​@@brutalikcz532

[@pietskiet42-_]

He was very gay ....

[@Dumbscience4thewin]

LMAO i saw Federick and Im like what Someone quoted me ! My middle name haha)

[@brutalikcz532]

@@rubengutierrez19 I think i played the Brits most. So probably British faction voice.

[@NewAlbionTV]

This is outdated info. Russia doesn't use cotton for this purpose. They have new technology and and source all materials from within Russia. They use different material which is both more economical and better performing.

[@Korovkin_Pavel]

Yes, most of it comes from trees proccessing and Russia has a lot of trees. Well, the tree gunpowder is a little worse quality but not so bad. The same way Russia uses tungsten in AP tank rounds and USA depleted uranium. Uranium shells perform 5% better but tungsten is cheaper and way more ecofriendly.

[@Ирина-з9ъ4и]

​@@Korovkin_Pavelу нас на конвейер поставлено производство пороха из льна и не наркотической конопли .

[@zedeyejoe]

@@Korovkin_Pavel Russia uses everything in its AT AP rounds, including depleted uranium.

[@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367]

Russia used depleted uranium in its ap rounds.​@@Korovkin_Pavel

[@ivaniuk123]

China sends gunpowder components to Russia and fentanyl to Mexico for distribution in the US.

[@xc43t]

Why do you hate capitalism?

[@UsurperDogheart]

@@xc43the’s a Rus disinformation bot. I wonder how many accounts he operates

[@justme_gb]

​@@xc43tLOL

[@waynethegreat23]

I do but I hate dictators more ​@@xc43t

[@waynethegreat23]

​@@xc43tcan't end capitalism til we have globalization.

[@Matt_from_Florida]

There's a Russian saying that goes something like, *_"'better' is the enemy of 'good enough',"_* referencing the quality of an item. Perhaps a Russian can provide the actual saying.

[@morfeicheg]

More correct - "Best" is the enemy of "good"

[@bluemountain4181]

It's not a uniquely Russian saying, it's a common proverb going back centuries and popularized in Europe by Voltaire "Perfect is the enemy of good"

[@phild9963]

Not sure but Stalin said that quantity can be its own quality.

[@Regunes]

Thought it was french.

[@keziahdelaney8174]

@@phild9963 He did!

[@jarllunde]

World: "hey russia, why do you need so much cotton?" Russia: "its for paint, trust me"

[@i34g5jj5ssx]

9:00 It is just plainly wrong. It is not democracy vs autocraty, it is private vs state industry.

[@dddDdd-vx6iq]

typical americans bringing everything down to "democracy vs autocracy" topic

[@Lichnaya_pravda]

AFAIK, already in the years of WW2, Russia developed technology of producing nitrocellulose (white gunpowder) from lumber (via paper). Cotton gunpowder is higher quality and does not require intermediate stages, but cotton is not necessary for Russia to keep producing gunpowder.

[@peabase]

Similar modern research is afoot in Finland, which can't grow cotton because of the climate alone, but has a handle on paper and pulp production like no other. While feasible, the process is tricker because of higher levels of impurities in wood-based cellulose. Interestingly, eucalyptus trees look most promising, fast-growing and combustible as they are.

[@attran4488]

And week , they have alot industrial week on Siberia

[@jebise1126]

@@peabase finalnd cant grow eucalyptus either

[@peabase]

@@jebise1126 Duh.

[@LanzGroßmann]

@@jebise1126 You can grow it elsewhere and ship the lumber to finnland. That aside n-cellulose is not hight tech and can be produced by any nation. Just thanks to certain EU bans on fertilizer, Russia can use the industrial capacity of its cheap electricity to make lots of n-celulose with the n-acid. BTW the unused fertiliser can also be used for military purposes. 🔥

[@davidchunkyonion]

Interesting report. You failed to mention one thing: US defense spending is mostly driven by defense contractors' desire to milk the taxpayers, not by actual defense requirements.

[@na-chto-ya-trachu-vremya]

Exactly. 1 kg package of rivets, which costs $90K? Wow, such theft.

[@paulbade3566]

@@na-chto-ya-trachu-vremya It's time to go back to the original source of the story; you've been had by rumor corruption. The info I have is that these are bushings for the bomb racks in the B-2; if so they are a short-run specialty item with demanding requirements, and one bag is enough for at least 5% of the entire 20 bomber fleet. I'm not saying $90K is a fair price for a bag of these bushings, but they aren't $2 parts with a giant markup either.

[@rolandgrz1975]

What an antisemitic thing to say😅😅😅😅

[@paulbade3566]

@@na-chto-ya-trachu-vremya Actually, it was bushings for the bomb racks in the B-1. Now we are talking about short-run parts with very stringent requirements - they have to support rotating loads in the tens of tons, permit smooth rotation over a wide range of environmental extremes, and have challenging weight and lubrication requirements. There are probably some tight tolerances on the machined surfaces, and of course the usual military aerospace documentation and certification expenses. If Congress had funded the original number of bombers planned, the setup cost would have been spread out over more parts so the price per unit would have been lower, but the total price would have been higher.

[@keithlillis7962]

Stalin called artillery: "The God of War".

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

Mars

[@AgentK-im8ke]

Napoleon said : god fight on the side of the one with the best artillery

[@JZsBFF]

"The world consist of two types of people; Artillerymen and targets." - An artie operator, probably.

[@JZsBFF]

That's only because he had never heard of drones.

[@gudleifr1942]

А генетику - буржуазной наукой. Почему мнение малообразованного людоеда должно кого-то волновать?

[@stevesmith7839]

Don't confuse democracy for corporate capitalism.

[@brown_shark706]

Where's democracy?

[@jordansoviet23]

Yup that's corporatism also known as FASCISM.

[@JustChill-zd4ib]

Democracy is fake freedom. Only freedom they have to pick from 2 clowns as president to pretend they have a choice. Pathetic losers. Not even free health care. Complete imbeciles.

[@n.erdbeer]

​@@brown_shark706nowhere in NATO.

[@paulbade3566]

@@brown_shark706 The U. S. was never a democracy except at the local level. Its system was designed to be a hierarchy of popular republics with personal rights recognized and guaranteed by constitutions. Today it is deteriorating into a bureaucratic state under the malign influence of the fascist religion fused with neo-Marxism. Read "The Doctrines of Fascism" by Benito Mussolini and compare it with the opinions of the current political establishment. Notice in particular how everyone is pushed to look for a government solution first for every problem instead trusting in God to bless their own work.

[@igniteflow]

Environmental laws are stopping France from arming itself? That is insane.

[@elacme626]

this straight out of a south park episode.I laughed my ass off. I know it's not a joke but still. We europeans need too wake the f up.

[@heyhoe168]

Skill issue.😂

[@Taskandpurpose]

the EU has some strict regulations when it comes to the specific chemicals needed for artillery production , they are currently working hard to get around it right now

[@AbuBawa-sw1ut]

Western propaganda

[@uniktbrukernavn]

Gotta buy those carbon credits before going to war.

[@Lungorizz]

What's even more wild is back in 1918 Germany was firing 8,000,000 shells a month (266,666/day) and the French were firing 4,500,000 shells a month (150,000/day)

[@aotmoments7410]

artillery then and now is different artillery then was alot cheaper than now and costed less to make and the nations were mobilizing for years

[@Ludak021]

@@aotmoments7410 cost nothing to make for Germans. It was war effort, workers get bed, clothes and food. And don't go to the front lines because they were mostly women. I don't know about French 4.5 mil shells. They did raise the white flag and allowed to be invaded and conducted resistance operations. I don't see resistance firing 4.5 mill artillery shells but whatever, it could have been some other time of the war.

[@93Hoskin]

​@@Ludak021wrong war mate 😂

[@merocaine]

​@@Ludak021what are you babbling about

[@charlesparr1611]

The accuracy modern artillery means that what took hundreds of rounds to achieve in ww1 can be done with a a time on target salvo of 4 or 5 rounds from a modern gun. Advances in targeting, fusing, and the radar analysis of actual trajectory of shells fired to compare them to the calculated trajectory, which can be corrected before the next round is fired to zero in, and result in 6 rounds fired in less than a minute all arriving within a few feet of the target. And the gun that fired them has already scooted away to avoid counterbatterry fire. I should clarify, that is what MODERN artillery can do. Much of Russia's vaunted artillery is literally ww1 and ww2 era scrap metal that can't hit the broad side of a barn, from INSIDE the barn. The Russians still have to fire hundreds of rounds to eventually blunder into their target, which is why despite having access to all those vaunted russian stockpiles, the Ukrainians are still thumbing their noses and mooning the Russians while shredding their columns when they try and advance, those brave russian meat puppets. LMAO.

[@catadoxas]

fun fact. you know who commanded the artillery in desert storm? connel mcgregor

[@georgejames6376]

And there ain't no fighter better! He is going to knock out flyod Mayweather

[@Burboss]

He was a tank commander, I believe

[@catadoxas]

@@Burboss self propelled artillery fell under his command

[@touringwagen]

That's not a defense industry anymore. More like the Russian Attack Industry.

[@matthewwadwell6100]

Colonel Douglas Macgregor was a Squadron Ops officer (at the rank of Major at the time) of an armoured unit (2nd Squadron, 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment) in Desert Storm (in 1991). And while he controlled the use of artillery (as most combat officers do), he has never commanded a unit of artillery.

[@SeraiPandan]

we were told 2 years ago that Russia had run out of ammunition

[@Leicht_Sinn]

wtf are you reading ¿ if you looked up some of the more serious youtubers out the you would know that russia has a 4-5 year time window until they run out of old tanks from the beginning of the war aka 2-3 years

[@Leicht_Sinn]

from the today view

[@michaelwu9450]

we were told 2 years ago that Kiev would fall.. but look at the SMO now 😂

[@-kenjo-421]

I remember news about it kept reappearing until Bakhmut fell after witch it went silent and around late 2023 all reports about 3 million shells started

[@ВМФ_СУ-57]

​​@@michaelwu9450мне зеля вчера сказал, что он в Крыму купался

[@Rexolaboy]

The B roll of you wearing NVGs with the lens caps on during the day was rich. Lol

[@Taskandpurpose]

oh that? dat's just me cosplayin' ; o

[@Rexolaboy]

@@Taskandpurpose I ain't shaming yah. Men gotta play too.

[@Taskandpurpose]

@@Rexolaboy I know, I know , believe me I lost any shame I had about 5 years ago when I started doing this non sense haha

[@dogsbecute]

@@Taskandpurpose and im glad, your skits are always great. We need more "Hooah Chop!"'s.

[@Dumbscience4thewin]

Ahh i was wondering like wtf lol whys he got NODS on LMAO and hiding behind that tree I don't think anyone could see you if like you know it was night and your just there lmao for some reason hahah You remind me of a Print Shoot Repeat YT demonetization Intro Skit with that Clip lol Very Smooth idk anyone else get that vibe PSR VIBE?ahah!

[@Shoelessjoe78]

No washing machine comrade. Here is nice 152 shell though. Is good hat rack.

[@andyf4292]

i do wonder where that came from. because russia has their own chip fabs, they don't import chips, they make them..

[@JohnSmith-fo5cx]

@@andyf4292 ad hominem attacks from anti russian people.

[@BleedingSnow]

@@andyf4292 Generally, vast majority of people believe the mainstream media (propaganda) in their respective countries, so when western media span the washing machine articles, most believed it, despite the stupidity. Same as the articles about shovels, ww1 wave tactics and etc etc etc.

[@JeffPar50]

​@@andyf4292 Lol this is pure propaganda. No company in Russia can independently manufacture chips without outside parts. Semiconductor supply chains are massive. Even China struggles with manufacturing chips independently. Huawei's newest chips were made with ASML (Dutch) lithography machines. Putin is hoping to be able to manufacture 28nm chips by 2027. For reference, chips used in modern washing machines are typically 28nm. TSMC can produce 3nm chips and Intel can produce 7nm chips. This is why Russia has been desperately trying to circumvent sanctions by importing chips through their neighboring countries.

[@VisibilityFoggy]

@@andyf4292 It's not that they can't make chips, it's that they can't make usable chips for today's devices because they have not miniaturized them the way western manufacturers have. The one commercially viable chip they did make in Russia is now made by TSMC in Taiwan. Russia is still making 180nm chips, about 10-15 years behind the west. And while Russia WAS going to build new fabs that would make smaller 65nm chips, they have no money left to do so because of the war. Putin screwed up again.

[@MarkLee1]

3:35 - Actually, the 2nd Chechen war has ended on April 2000. The anti-partisan (or counter-terror) operations ended in 2009.

[@weaselgunsru]

As for artillery ammunition, everything is completely different. The shells are filled with trinitrotoluene, obtained by combining toluene with nitric acid. And the gunpowder is contained in the charges that throw the shells to the target. Cellulose (any, including wood), glycerin and nitric acid are used to produce gunpowder. Purified cellulose is treated with nitric acid to obtain nitrocellulose, nitrocellulose is then impregnated with nitroglycerin (glycerin treated with nitric acid) and formed. Thus, toluene, wood, glycerin and nitric acid are needed to produce artillery ammunition. Russia has the largest wood reserves in the world, there is nothing to say about that. Toluene is obtained from coal as a by-product of coke production, a fuel used to smelt steel, including that used for shell bodies. There is a lot of coal in Russia, and there are also operating steel plants. Glycerin is obtained from vegetable fats - sunflower, rapeseed, etc. Nitric acid is obtained from nitrogen contained in the air, which requires a large amount of energy obtained from natural gas.

[@paulbade3566]

I see several references to "gunpowder" here. Gunpowder, sometimes called black powder, is a propellant made from charcoal, sulfur, and potassium nitrate (saltpeter). Except for muzzle loader hobbyists, its use in firearms is largely obsolete because it makes big clouds of smoke, leaves a lot of residue in the weapon, is prone to failure under damp conditions, and does not have the power of more modern propellants. What Russia is using is guncotton, or more technically, cellulose nitrate. It's made by reacting cleaned and finely chopped cotton (cotton pulp, often made from waste fibers from textile thread spinning) with a mixture of sulfuric and nitric acid, followed by a careful cleaning process to remove all traces of residual acid. It is critical that the fibers be broken down and carefully cleaned so that they are no longer hollow because acid trapped in the fibers or other impurities make the product inconsistent and unstable. That's why there are problems with the shells from North Korea; they obviously have poor process quality control (what do you expect from slave labor, anyway?). Guncotton was discovered in 1832, reportedly by accident when a chemist named Braconnet used cotton to wipe up a nitric acid spill and put it on the hearth to dry, only to be startled later when it spontaneously exploded. It took several decades to develop a safe and reliable production process. (Source: Encyclopedia Americana, 1941 edition, except for the details of the discovery; I don't recall where I read that.)

[@ramonjr.deluna9584]

It's 1941,2024 everything change,even books have bias analysis.

[@ronblack7870]

there is also actual black powder used in the shells in small amounts . maybe the primer. i remember a video 6 months ago saying it's a problem in the usa because a black powder factory had exploded/ burned down and it was hard to source quantities.

[@rickhayhoe]

@@ronblack7870 Yes, primer and accelerator.

[@Fyrd-Fareld]

Smokeless gunpowder =/= gunpowder (black)

[@gnosticbrian3980]

I thought the German chemist Christian Friedrich Schönbein invented guncotton. Britannica describes the fortuitous discovery thus: "His discovery of guncotton began with an accident in his wife’s kitchen. When he used her cotton apron to wipe up some spilled nitric and sulphuric acid, it disintegrated, leading to his work on nitrocellulose".

[@jonathanloeppky]

To put this in perspective, the First World War used between 900 million and 1.2 billion rounds of artillery ammunition. Most of the artillery used during that war was also much larger than modern artillery, as they did not have jdams/fabs for delivery of large rounds with enough capacity to destroy fortifications.

[@mrvwbug4423]

A lot of WW1 artillery was 75mm light howitzers, that basically were used in the same way that we use mortars now

[@jonathanloeppky]

@@mrvwbug4423 True, but there was also a lot of very heavy artillery that is no longer seen. Another stat to put modern artillery usage into perspective. During the battle of Vimy Ridge, the Canadians used over 1 million rounds fired from 1100 guns in 2 weeks. That amount is only used every couple of months across the entire front in the Russo-Ukranian war.

[@ironmantooltime]

Yea, point of contention is use of the word most. Some ww1 artillery was of a larger than 155 calibre.

[@matsv201]

​@@ironmantooltimebut then we talk about a few hundred shels at the very largest side. In ukraine almost all shells are 155mm (there are some 105mm). There are also 120 and 80mm mortor that is not counted as artilery. Consider that the 80mm would be more powerfull than the 75mm from ww1 and the 120mm would be more powerfull than pretty much any field gun at that time.

[@OmMmZz]

Oh waw!! Russia isn't using shovels and chips from washing machines, who knew!😂

[@highdefinist9697]

You can't use chips from washing machines, if you have no washing machines.

[@avadhutagita3741]

@@highdefinist9697 No washing machines? After all, there is a free, nanotechnological and democratic Ukraine nearby, from which Russians steal washing machines. 😁 No shovels?. Russians make shovels from wood and then launched at 2000 km, they can even shoot down satellites with shovels.

[@OmMmZz]

@@highdefinist9697 That's what they've been saying all along all this fake analyst saying Russia is losing the war and all other nonsense, just to turn back and eat their own words, Am not talking about this channel in particular but the mainstream media

[@AEH-df7ho]

​@@highdefinist9697 As a russian I confirm that we don't have washing machines. My personal bear does the laundry for me

[@OmMmZz]

@@AEH-df7ho 😅😅😅

[@8LegoVogel8]

When Germany saw how Russia handled the winter war in 1940, they've stopped seeing them as a threat and made the fatal mistake of opening the eastern front. Yes RU equipment is unreliable, their technology outdated, and their casualty rate is very high. But in the last 200 years RU have managed to deter every superior army they've faced in this manner. Never underestimate your opponent, especially the Russians.

[@valeriegillet473]

Obsolete technology 😮 you also make the same mistake

[@8LegoVogel8]

​@@valeriegillet473 No. I'm restating the fact: (Despite) Russians using outdated material (Ukraine does too), but that should *not* be a reason to underestimate them. And as we've seen, Russians have combined elements of old material to develop new strategies. I purposefully did *not* use the word 'obsolete' because that word in itself has a meaning of uselessness whereas 'outdated' still implies functionality to an extent.

[@travelinventor9422]

Now the casualty rate is low, and the 5th generation fighters, hypersonic missiles, air defense, and their tanks are all the best in the world.

[@Aleksandr_Sankin]

Если вычесть из потерь СССР примерно 20.000.000 гражданских людей, а к Германии прибавить европейские союзные армии, не забывайте что среди вермахта были Италия, Румыния, Чехия, Финляндия, Испания, Франция и т.д. не было только Сербии и Болгарии, то потери были сопоставимыми, равными.

[@almostout]

It is interesting to see how artillery is being used in this war. As a veteran artillery man it is crazy to see because I understand the devastation it can reap. Never got to shoot big rounds in combat, got stuck doing convoy security.

[@ironmantooltime]

I'm sure your work was still appreciated 🇺🇸

[@imborad5350]

As a noob using simple logic knew already the today outcome. While people were laughing at Russia a year or two ago.

[@maigepresents5840]

Former gunnery officer in the Australian army, those 155's with airburst are lethal at 50m blast radius, with serious risk of shrapnel wounds at 75 metres

[@kzlfaku]

Russia has LOTS of resources and very clever people who don't care so much about materialistic things. Such a country can go on and on in a long time. Western mindset is that everything is about money. Russian mindset is that everything is about survival. Key difference.

[@keldorcz]

State-owned companies have a profit margin and when there is a war they just do it at cost. Even mines and power plants are state-owned. Almost nobody makes a profit. That's why the corruption that you mention is less than the profits in the West for private companies.

[@yikemoo]

dude, I read the counter as 1.7 mil views in 7 mins, and I was like "DAMN, this channel has blown up!"

[@ATomRileyA]

Bots be running wild as well :)

[@yikemoo]

@@ATomRileyA actually, its funny how bot-free this comments section is compared to some other US-focused military-themed channels, like check out binkov's comments whoa

[@MK0272]

That explosion shown at 10:34 is the exact same one I've seen at least a dozen times in other videos.

[@F.O.U.N.D.E.R]

Its a meme clip, get your info right

[@Ringer1982]

As I saw in another source, the estimation of 3 million includes all calibers, including self propelled munition, and that the estimated rate of produclion of the main caliber of 152 mm is around from 1 to 1.5 million.

[@Taskandpurpose]

can you please share the source with me? NATO and other sources I've looked at all state rockets / artillery at 3 million please send to [e-mail] !

[@Ringer1982]

@@Taskandpurpose sure, I just replied

[@markrtoffeeman]

@@Taskandpurpose I think Perun covered this topic in one of his recent videos also. There is no way that for the main equivalent NATO calibre that they exceed European and/or US production. That 3 million figure includes all calibres

[@HanSolo__]

@@Taskandpurpose They use other calibres in their artillery not only 152mm. Such as 122mm - Gvozdika, 100mm - AT Rapira cannon, 203mm - Pion and 115mm as some of their T-62s work as makeshift SPA.

[@markrtoffeeman]

@@Taskandpurpose According to the European Commission the EU has hit 1 million 155 mm shells annually (January 2024) and according to the US DOD the US ramp up will add by end of 2024 between 840,000 to 960,000 155 mm shells for 2024. So conservatively 2 million 155 mm shells. European production and US production will shift slightly in 2025 with European production continuing to go up, and US production hitting a plateau until more comes on line in 2026

[@mnk9073]

Getting into a war of attrition with Russia is like getting into a spending war with Bernard Arnault.

[@Veylon]

Russia isn't what is used to be. The birth rate back in the 90's and early 00's was cataclysmic. The Philippines has more military-age manpower than Russia these days. That being said, Russia is focusing on war-oriented things in a war situation whereas the EU really isn't. Russia can punch way above their weight when they're spending 6% of their GDP on as much OK stuff as they can make to use vs. their peer competitors spending 2% on gold-plated stuff they're afraid to lose.

[@Marvin-dg8vj]

Russia has low cost labour with no worries about health and safety or net zero laws.​@@Veylon

[@bodigames]

@@Veylonmanpower doesn’t change anything. Just look at China and Japan’s. Still Japan beat China the whole war.

[@Veylon]

@@bodigames And what concessions did Japan receive from China at the war's end?

[@islandwills2778]

@@Veylon fun fact but wars have a habit of revitalizing a country and often result in a jump in birth rate, a lot of the problems that were plaguing russia seem to be vanishing like smoke as the entire country wakes from its morass and becomes focused

[@hydrozyk]

You forgot about Russia's air gliding bombs on wings FABs(one tonne each), they are using it massively now this is why they are moving ahead.

[@CashCatz]

And they can do that now after using their missiles (including hypersonics) by prepping the battlefield by taking out most of Ukraines massive air defense (at least 400 units of varying systems). The Russians are't as incompetent as media would have us believe.

[@keldorcz]

they don't have 1000kg bombs

[@caty863]

Actually, incentivising industrial arm production instead of lawyers is a net benefit for a country

[@tsugumorihoney2288]

Also workers now get better salary if pre war it were like 40-70k rubles, now if you just start working you get at least 80k, also some factories provide 1 time payment around 100-200 k rubles, also working on war factory give you protection against mobilisation

[@ВладимирЛяшенко-ю5л]

Actually in period of mass mobilisation (fall of 2022) empolyers treated their "protection" as a salary bonus, thus kept salaries on lower market level. Some of my ex-colleagues moved to jobs for "protection" and had their income decreased. But those are engineers, idk how was it with blue collars. Also restirctions for people with acces to classified information became very strict. Like previosly with access of level 2 (out of 3, with 1 the most strict) you could go abroad anytime you wanted but had to notify employer. Now that's impossible and even pepole with the 3rd (weakest) lvl might have problems with traveling. So another disadvantage.

[@SashaHerz]

В России нет мобилизации, воюют контрактники.

[@tsugumorihoney2288]

@@SashaHerz чо правда что ли? а что это такое было когда 300 тыщь в армию отправили?

[@Ironblood4564]

Task i have a question. Based on SKs and UKrs, "intel" before the rounds were even shipped to RU from NK. How can we prove that 50% number? Is there any russian or N.K counter claims on effectiveness? I feel like if it was a coinflip on a jam or explosion on the system no one would use the artillery. People dont even pick up spare ammo from enemys on the off chance a single round is sabotaged.

[@Taskandpurpose]

they were shipped last year I believe, Ukraine claimed there was a high dud rate and inaccurate fire afterwards. Could it be misinformation ? absolutely. I think I flagged that part by saying "if we believe what Ukraine claims" how can we verify the dud rate? I have no idea. I would honestly have to research deeper into that aspect to know better

[@МихаилЧерников-п2т]

Several artillery men I talked with said that NK shells were fine, nothing fancy about them. A bit different from Russian/soviet ones, but not much

[@Ironblood4564]

@@Taskandpurpose Thanks for the reply. Enjoying all the content recently as well as appreciate the consistent coverage of the conflict. I understand that's it's all grey area of how intel/propo is handled. I just dislike the over exgeration of flaws in the RUA. It feels like we(euro/us) are underestimating them or dangers a war similar to this would have on our own forces if sent expecting something else.

[@Ironblood4564]

@@МихаилЧерников-п2т Thanks for the context, if you don't mind me asking, if you have knowledge what's the current state of integration of wagnerian forces after the fracturing? Where they go? I saw a few vids of them talking about the NK shells floating around a while ago. This might be a situation to more seriously consider the anecdotal soldiers videos on situation, instead of Opp-State intelligence.

[@jebise1126]

source - trust me bro

[@darielrodriguez6984]

That's the difference between State own Military Production and Businessman Own. In another note: Nowadays the term "authoritarian" can applies to USA and Europe too 8:44

[@railroad_of_oregon]

Exactly macron and trudeau are more authoritarian than most ex communist state. The usa is still a free country for the most part. But its changing fast .

[@VladikRas-iz1pn]

Us were at war with countries with zero air defense and were able to fly freely with very few planes taken down in 20 years. We would see how they succeed in defended air space

[@abedjb3189]

Russia shelling small city called Grozny with thirty thousand Artillery shell with hundreds of Air strikes and thiusand of tabk shells and millions of bullets is crazy.

[@JohnSmith-fo5cx]

And yet...Grozny is a beautiful city today.

[@iberiksoderblom]

That cost the Russian people a lot of money, then. Lots of roads not being mantained, hospitals needing everything, trains not being repaired...

[@adambrande]

​@@iberiksoderblomlol I wish my government can only have those problems if we're at war. We're at peace yet we have the same exact troubles so what gives?

[@WWSzar]

@@adambrande The average Russian male lived almost 10 years shorter than their EU counterpart, and that was before the war

[@Silver_Prussian]

Well maybe the Dudayev and his gang should have thought about it before proceeding to commit suicide for their nation with their decisions. Wow such men fighting the russians by engaging in urban warfare using their own people as meat shields then crying when the russians stoped playing their little games.

[@FelixFreudenberg]

Thats about 8213 rounds peer day wich is pretty decent and would basicly mean artillery wont run out in the next years.

[@aotmoments7410]

if the russian mod is correct about the increase then Russia made 1.2 million rounds a year for like 14 years so they hypothetically should have like 12m in stock but at the start of the war they were using 50-100k rounds per day

[@FelixFreudenberg]

@@aotmoments7410 well those numbers are much lower currently, for comparison tho Ukraine uses about 10k rounds peer day wich Is why I said that, and also you still have to consider old soviet stocks and the fact that guided bombs also partially replaced artillery.

[@jebise1126]

@@FelixFreudenberg ukraine barely used 10k per day during summer offensive. they are down to 2 to maybe 3k a day now. they often dont even shoot at russian tanks any more. seen blyatmobil just driving around like nothing?

[@FelixFreudenberg]

@@jebise1126 dam didnt know it was that bad for the Ukrainian side, well if this is true then it would only show even more how russia wont run out of artillery.

[@ajcottrill4949]

Depends how many pieces of artillery equipment get blown up…

[@SpiritWolf1966]

I enjoy all of Task & Purpose videos

[@scubamaz1]

Kiss Axs

[@MaxHohenstaufen]

Well, the russian federation might pale in comparison to the USSR (just imagine a nation with fierce warriors of both Russia and Ukraine on the same side, along many others), it is the heir of that superpower, so even in its relative fragile state, it's still a big military powerhouse.

[@mauertal]

Germany startet in WW2 a ammunition-programm (Iwan-Plan) in occupied Ukraine. The production started in May 1943 and the output till October 1943 was planed: 750,000 x 10.5 cm, 400.000 15cm, 150.000 21cm shells PER month = 15 Million shells per year!

[@solderdesolder]

proofs, please

[@mauertal]

@@solderdesolder I have studied that case direct in German Archives. U can find this stuff only in German in Wiki or in some Military pages.

[@solderdesolder]

@@mauertal it was no real working big ammuniton fabs in that territories at that times

[@mauertal]

@@solderdesolder If u dont know something, PLEASE say "i dont know, can u tell me" and not THAT! 1943, alone in the middle Ukraine (without the Lemberg-Area, the Crimea and the Donbas incl. Charkiw) there where the heavy steal industrie comanies: Steel Mill Konstantinowka, Steel Mill Krivoy Rog, Steel Mill Taganrog, Steel Mill Saporoshje, Steel Mill Stalino, Rykowo, Asow Steel 1 + 2 in Mariupol in work! The biggest water power station in Saporischja got in FULL work on 01.01.1943 and produced more than twice as much energy, than needed in high consumption peaks!

[@solderdesolder]

@@mauertal LOL. 1. Most of Soviet ammunition plants, located in the western parts of USSR, was dismantled and evacuated to east in 1941. 2. All this fabs and plants (their parts that was remained after evacuation) was partially or badly destroyed during the course of hostilities, in 1941 - 1942. 3. Steel industrie mills is not ammunition fabs, it's very different sectors of industry.

[@tuzu1758]

Russia and North Korea are swapping Russian tanks for Korean rounds. That's just one leg of the ordnance stool.

[@TellenJones]

Gulf war ground attack didn't last long and thus the low shell usage.

[@jonathantaylor6926]

Doesn't NK have like 20M shells too? They are old as hell by now but most probably still work. A few will kill the crew firing them.

[@bowencreer3922]

Ukraine bombed a railroad, preventing much of it from being transported west.

[@KolyaUrtz]

Russia has more tanks now than before the war. Cry more

[@EL20078]

@@bowencreer3922 cool story bro

[@SpookyEng1]

I miss cheap Tula steel case, damn war

[@AlexanderTch]

What did you use them for?

[@MrFrimko]

@@AlexanderTch rifle customizations i gues

[@Ralf-lv9ur]

...I bet those night optics are 100% more AWESOME when you flip the lens caps off :D

[@enterchannelname5953]

Russia doesn’t spend all it has on war. 1 out of 50 Russians work in defence which is a lot but even with such high spending they still have free universal healthcare and University.

[@johnnycaps1]

You must have been "a special unique baby boy". @11:18 Great episode.

[@Taskandpurpose]

[@johnnycaps1]

@@Taskandpurpose Well you've now grown up to be a wonderful and special man.

[@spoddie]

1:25 "Wow it's just like daylight. These things are amazing"

[@K-Effect]

They work even better when you take the lens caps off

[@joelfett4739]

They produce 1 million artillery rounds a year because they have the most based city-block setup for producing artillery shells in factorio

[@anthonycampos7417]

Ngl, that Uralvagonzavod logo is dope as hell.

[@harrybrown-r5p]

Keep up the good videos we all love the analysis

[@georgekaradov1274]

One thing not mentioned in this video is the lack of skilled manufacturing work force in the west, with the exception of Germany( their apprenticeship programs were great). 30+ years of outsourcing manufacturing have greatly reduce the number of workers that have the skills to do such work, and that is specialty true for the young workers. It would take at least a generation, if effort is made and there is intensives to address this issue. My dad work all his life as tool and die maker and he is, with his technical high school diploma from Eastern Europe, as good as me(Math and Computer science major) at trigonometry. He was using it in his work all day long. How many young people who may contemplate working in a factory have that level of education nowadays? Everyone want to be influencer, KZbinr of sit behind a desk... It is much easier to study some humanities major that proper STEM fields... just saying

[@RobbbbM-qk3ei]

This right here. We don’t have the human capability we used to.

[@Julio-wc3vg]

you say 'a welder earning more than a white collar manager or lawyer' like its a bad thing

[@deuswolf9053]

like in Soviet Union

[@stickfighter1038]

Veteran of the 1st Gulf War so can testify to the reliance on SF and Air Power early on to discourage Iraq from invading Saudi Arabia. Getting Naval, Air Power and SF units to remote battlefields takes days vs tanks, artillery etc which can take months. This put a reduced focus on US artillery capabilities and improvement.

[@MrBottlecapBill]

True. While fighting third world countries with limited ability to destroy those things it's the way to go. In a long drawn out war of superpowers where those very expensive slow to produced resources start vanishing quickly........you're in a different ball game. Not to mention air power is great for blowing things up but you MUST occupy ground to control it. Air power doesn't do that.

[@mauriciorod4375]

Our Marine artillery unit took us less than 20 days to get to Saudi. Were sent to the Kuwaiti border as a delaying force in case the Iraqis decided to cross and head towards Ryiad.

[@expertpovsemvoprosam1667]

You wouldn't have any resistance anyway. You waited for the war between Iraq and Iran to end, which took away all the strength of the first and second. You did the same thing in World War II. They waited until the Russians defeated the Germans. This is the eternal Anglo-Saxon-Zionist policy.

[@cheesesniper473]

Most Eastern countries also don't use the "controlled deflagration" type of gunpowder loads, which makes making rounds a lot easier than they are made in the West. They also tend to ammo rack whenever struck. Western made rounds are a lot less likely to do this, but are also more costly to produce, since every round must be loaded so that the round only goes off when the primer is struck, instead of a round impact lighting it on fire mid-case. This wouldn't be as important for something that usually operates well behind the lines, as most threats at that range are from chemical(HEAT rounds) and not kinetic(APFSDS) projectiles, which tend to burn everything regardless.

[@jebise1126]

western shells are more expensive because labor cost, resources cost and profit of producers. dont for a second think they are better. as for shelf life. if you fire it in a week what will you do with shelf life?

[@arvalb0]

@@jebise1126 there was multiple reports of dud russian artillery rounds, even prigozhi claimed it, ofcourse the price has much to do with the higher living standards but the quality is also slightly better

[@delta0307]

How Russia produces 3M shells? With shovels ofcourse!

[@BenderBei]

Я сам не могу понять как мы делать можем столько снарядов 😂😂😂

[@johnvannewhouse]

Keep it up, Cappy!! And keep your skin THICK!

[@expo2000000]

Artillary focus is just more budget friendly but least mobile strategy XD

[@mattiasolsson2354]

That's why God invented the BM-21 divisional artillery battalion.

[@avadhutagita3741]

This is both budget and mobile strategy, and it's also strategy for preserving the lives of soldiers.

[@rushyscoper1651]

@@avadhutagita3741 it the weapon for those who can't control the air.

[@adillakandi.r]

​@@rushyscoper1651 the only reason NATO control the air is they fight the country with minimum air defence capability

[@deriznohappehquite]

@@adillakandi.r The reason Russians can’t control the air is they are fighting without significant numbers of stealth aircraft and without any real SEAD capability.

[@havocgr1976]

The main reason French shell production has stalled is China stropped exporting a material they need to make em.

[@Ben734]

That's due to the EU ban on Xinjiang cotton, which they literally forgot about.

[@ИванИванов-ф3з2н]

Вообще ролик хороший, но тут надо сказать, что зарплаты на производствах выросли в последние годы, как и в армии, по понятным причинам.

[@PraneshSacher]

incredible amount of information presented here ..... thanks dud, I really appreciate that vast amount of background information ....

[@Thousandpointsoflight]

Oh 3 million has six zeroes not 12 😮

[@mortoopz]

I actually believe the 115..125% production rates, you said earlier they were working 6 day weeks, well, that right there is 120%, so it would fit.

[@glintongordon6811]

Exactly because they fire 60k shell a day last year

[@pshh-pshh]

@@glintongordon6811 there is indeed a 6-day working week in Russia, but only because of the holidays. This is the first time I've heard that we're working on 6/1

[@escesc5315]

@@pshh-pshh Военные фабрики работают без выходных на самом деле, просто сменный график

[@louisarildkarv2787]

You wrote 3 billion 😅😅

[@notaseriousbeaver]

Its even worse, the title says 3 trillion 😂

[@Britishbolls]

Who Else Knows The "Russians Are Fighting With Hands As A Result Of The Lack Of Ammunition"

[@elgrantiburonasesino8940]

Napolean once said God fights with the side who has the best artillery

[@OctagonFinancialSystems]

He found out when entered Russia.

[@bozydarziemniak1853]

Then someone invented planes and bombs...

[@felipe-vibor]

I don't trust the notion that Russian barrels are inferior. I mean just look at AK 47? Russian arms are the most sort after in the world because of its cheap cost and reliability. It gets the work done.

[@franciscokayo3250]

80% of the casualties are from artillery, this war has the most effective compared to others.

[@maximilianodelrio]

Depends on what you're comparing it to, you can't compare it with anything other than other near peer wars, of which this is pretty much the first in the century

[@igorzhidkov1957]

It is because now they are aiming it with drones. This way an order of magnitude more accurate even without precise guided shells.

[@TamasMateffy]

Trench war. You ain’t hitting troops much otherwise.

[@DedHobbit]

Artillery has always been king on the battlefield, unless you're fighting the guys in the shale

[@jebise1126]

@@TamasMateffy proximity fuse...

[@Ирина-з9ъ4и]

Приветствую вас всех, я из России. В ролике было сказано что моя страна покупает хлопок для потроха. Это не совсем так . Дело в том , что наша стра с 2015 года вела разработки по созданию пороха созданного на основе льна и культивированной ненаркотической конопли . Благодаря этим исследованиям в нашей стране в 2019 году был запущен процесс изготовления именно пороха созданного на основе льна и не наркотической конопли . Более того, рост боеприпасов связан с тем что все военные заводы принадлежат именно государству и именно государство является хозяином этих заводов . Спасибо за прочтение .

[@kyzylalchemy9776]

Russia has a self reported incarceration rate of 96, which is given at a ratio per 100k people, not a 96% incarceration rate. Given the way IR is measured 96% would be insane.

[@benel3108]

Do you misspell every foreign word by purpose? That really grinds my gears!

[@Kostja08a]

war is money, friend

[@KillroyX99]

Wow, the night vision works during the day --- with the sense covers on

[@lancepants28]

Anyone that has read about WWII Red Army this is not surprising. Read about the built up of Operation Bagration. The one major thing that the USA back then helped USSR with was supply trucks. USA at that time had 75% of the market share in vehicle manufacturing. This is why many are saying that the Ukraine war is a lost cause if it drags out longer.

[@theChiral]

America has always fought countries that can't shoot down planes, so they pound enemy positions with bombs from above. Russia is fighting a whole different enemy - 30+ countries with air defense, fighter jets, drones, tanks, missiles, etc. They need artillery shells more.

[@davout5775]

Not sure on what basis you write this. When the US went to Iraq for the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, the Iraqi airspace was the most heavily defended sky in the world. It took 1 month for the aair compaign and almost no casualties to defeat the threat. The ground offensive took 4 days. Russia is currently engaging NATO's old equipment. And, to be honest, they barely received anything in the last several months

[@arvalb0]

doesnt help usa has the best fighters and is able to keep them flying,

[@iNIMATEstudio]

Tbh from all the sanction they endure even before the war and the economy still floating and have enough to supply this war, make me wonder what would happen if they never got sanction at all

[@Aleksandr_Sankin]

Хоть один правильно поставленный вопрос увидел во всех комментариях под этим видео. А если честно, после введения санкций много гнилых людей и разного рода вредителей убежало из России, очень хорошо что так произошло, по другому их было не выковырять и ломом. Сейчас эти упыри воняют из-за границы, то есть от вас и нам они не страшны. Главное внутренних врагов убрать, а внешние нам не страшны.

[@jefrysax]

After WW2, in the mind of the Russian military planers the disasters from the beginning of the war were a big red flag. They managed to move some factories but many were taken or distroyed, so in this case Lend LEase helped a lot. But in the middle of the Cold War, there was no perspective benefactor to patch the holes so when they started to plan, build, and accumulate the so-called "Strategic military reserve" it consisted of the typical things, weapons, food clothing, tents, medicine ... but the started to add vehicles, machinery, in fact, there were whole factories disassembled and waiting to be used. In fact, the vehicles that took part in the Chernobyl cleanup efforts were taken from such kind of storage..

[@Aleksandr_Sankin]

Чернобыльская техника использовалась Украинской стороной, в России нет чернобыльской техники так как вся техника которая там использовалась осталась в Чернобыли то есть в Украине. Как она использовалась не знаю, но за последние 10 лет металлолома в зоне отчуждения стало говорят меньше.

[@jefrysax]

@@Aleksandr_Sankin I was talking about the busses, the lorries and escavators and helicopters and the lead that the helicopters were spreading.

[@jeffmcallister7040]

Great observation about how authoritarian regimes can respond faster to things like this. Democracies need to make sure they don't bury their heads in the sand and hope the bad guys just go away and leave them alone.

[@lolwutyoumad]

America used to be the arsenal of the free world until MoD kleptocrats turned the industry into an economic parasite that doesn't produce anywhere near the amount of money poured into it

[@highdefinist9697]

I think that's more of an American problem than a democracy problem - Europe is doing pretty well in terms of consistently helping Ukraine, and ramping up production.

[@lolwutyoumad]

@@highdefinist9697 Europe is sending old stuff they already planned to retire which is why Ukrainian logistics is a joke. They have 100 different platforms that all require specialized training and logistical chains to maintain. All the Abrams and Leopards in the world don't mean a thing if you can't keep them in the field

[@chriscarlino5561]

@@highdefinist9697your dead right! Manufacturing in the US has been in extreme decline since the 1050’s. The US got to comfortable outsourcing. What’s going to happen if the US is low on weapons, and ammo Who will donate to the US? answer: not many if any. The US can not keep giving Ukraine Christmas every few months without screwing itself.

[@highdefinist9697]

​@@lolwutyoumad That's not really supporting your point... Consider that Russia already lost 300k people. Just imagine how much more Ukraine will achieve, once they will get modern European weapons... which they will, because European leaders are actually taking this seriously, unlike Americans.

[@PEACEMAKER.BY.AdnanHabul]

Bosnia and Herzegovina alone can produce about 1 million shells per year, both 152mm (Eastern) and 155mm (NATO) artillery shells, and mortar 120mm and 80mm. However, Bosnia is unfortunately not in NATO and EU yet...

[@fredlight]

I would say luckily Bosnia is not in Nato and EU ...those organisations are some of the most corrupted organisations in the World. :)

[@branned]

Why does the non-NATO nation remember how to fight a war?

[@justme_gb]

BiH can be an industrial powerhouse because it is not an EU member. France is hamstrung by environmental regulations. The EU is a good example of "be careful what you wish for."

[@mrguiltyfool]

Bosnia will never be a member of nato and eu because Serbs, Croats have to agree to it too.

[@femboyshitposter676]

So can Serbia our military industry improved drastically even after a huge war and we're one of the most innovative military wise in the Balkans but that can be traced to our prussian like militarism.

[@vasicdude9430]

You don't have to pay lawyers that much money when the outcome of the trials are already determined before the trial starts. Maranda rights from Russia, "Anything you say can and will be used against you. Anything we say you said can and will be used against you. If you have a lawyer don't worry about it comrade. We're replacing him with a court appointed one. We encourage you to divulge information during your torture to your lawyer so he can better assist Russia. We're happy to assist you with any other criminal information you may posses. Enjoy your stay at club Russia!"

[@user-mh5xk6fl1x]

Что за хуйню ты написал?

[@Noqtis]

If you are the wrong person, they don't even read you your Miranda rights. Like Uncle Osama was killed without a trial. Assassinated. Palis another example. At least Uncle Osama was clearly guilty. But not every single Palestinian is guilty. that gets annihilated by a hellfire missile. But nothing ever happens. Because Human Rights don't actually count for every human. The west picks and chooses who has the privilege for human rights. All others aren't wroth mentioning.

[@darbas57]

All of the factories build in ussr. I am not sure about the ones that were built after the end of Ussr, are dual purpose. Another words any plant can easily start producing armaments, vehicles. My dad's factory produced welding equipment, but it could be converted into tank producing factory for military purposes. It is like that everywhere in Russia.

[@MarkLee1]

8:44 - so funny when you call Russia an authoritarian country, but you don’t call USA a dictatorship country, which it currently is. You don’t even have direct presidential votings, yet you dare to speak about democracy.

[@expertpovsemvoprosam1667]

The salary of an assembler at an artillery factory for men is 120-150 thousand. 50-80 thousand are received by women of the lowest qualifications, who mainly work with small parts or on cleaning and not for 12 hours. The average salary of white-collar workers in Russia starts from 100 thousand per month, not 30-50. It all depends on the region and the specific profession. The average salary in Russia is 70 thousand. And your numbers are 10 years out of date. And even the photographs you take are also 20 years out of date.

[@Сталкер-ь2х]

average salary in russia is 70k LMAOOO ever tried excluding moscow? (which in fact a separate country inside russia)

[@kieslowski1709]

@@Сталкер-ь2х why exclude Moscow with more than 1/10th of Russian population?

[@Сталкер-ь2х]

@@kieslowski1709 because the amout of fucking money government puts into moscow compared to all other regions is not even funny budget of moscow is bigger than half of all regions combined iirc of course moscow has higher salaries! thus, if you wanna see real statistics of country, gotta exclude one region government pumps infinite money into imho

[@expertpovsemvoprosam1667]

@@Сталкер-ь2х You're right. Moscow is a separate country and the standard of living there is comparable to countries such as Denmark. There is data on the GDP of all regions of Russia on the Internet. But it’s funny that even the poorest region of Russia is higher in GDP than Ukraine.

[@Сталкер-ь2х]

@@kieslowski1709 oh wait i hust realised my answer on your comment was deleted by youtube cuz of having bad word bruh, im not rewriting that again

[@StrategicDevelopments]

"There are two types of people in this world: artillerymen, and targets" - Sun Tzu