How Self-Aware Teen Movies Almost Killed the Genre | Time Capsule

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[@salamp4909]

BOARDWALK EMPIRE CHARACTER ANALYSIS!!!!!!! Come on you can see my request. It’s a period crime drama with the take on the psyche galore.

[@Claire18Hi]

only us..

[@friedagerhardt]

OMG I remember watching Stick It as a teenager and I loved it SO MUCH, but none of my friends had watched it so I never got to share the experience ...should have been part of the genre class on my film degree!!!

[@ruffgirl1776]

Who ended up winning

[@SurgeryIsWoke]

"Comic self-awareness isn't the same as critique" is something every young screenwriter needs to hear and understand.

[@whatalsaid]

This is why I love Mean Girls so much. In the end, there really was no villain, and everyone, even the main character, was a little bit guilty of something.

[@Dm34421]

And the way Regina George dealt with her issues was relatable

[@andresbecerra1183]

I agree. It was much more sophisticated in it’s critique of high-school archetypes in that it really mirrored society as a whole. It also provides a redemption arc for basically all of the main characters.

[@kyleellis9177]

I feel it was more to show no one was a hero, everyone was a villain (except maybe Damian). The things done were bad and many could have lead to criminal charges, but by the end each one was taken down in a pyrric blaze and forced to become a normal person with good and bad.

[@witchplease9695]

Mean Girls is tied with another favorite of mine, Bend It Like Beckham

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[@TheLeah2344]

I wish they made more movies about college and young adult life. There is enough movies about teenagers.

[@sepiteria7797]

It’d also make a lot of the really uncomfortable cliches significantly less so

[@Pinkladyisv]

I think Love is Blind also proved stories centered around people in their late 20’s and early to mid 30’s can also be interesting and fun to watch.

[@RaheemD]

@@kyleellis9177 Everyone has a streaming platform of some sort so I don't know if that reason can still be valid

[@RaheemD]

@@Globalo45 I've not watched Euphoria but I heard the characters are teens?

[@dropdeadxhorizon]

Especially because the actors playing highschool students ARE college aged... Let them play their own age and struggles

[@syria0110]

I love how self aware these movies were, deconstructing the concepts of high school, along with the teen movie genre as a whole. However, I do blame them for my main character syndrome though 💀

[@cartooncottage2024]

I think the same could be said for everyone here. I too suffered a little from MC syndrome deep down when I was in highschool.

[@cartooncottage2024]

@Number Nine Janice from Mean Girls?

[@paleobc65]

I just googled main character syndrome I’ve definitely suffered this from years, I finally have a name for it thank you!

[@ventii_kun]

@@cartooncottage2024 You suffered a Main Character Complex in high school? Sis, I’m still dealing with that now! (I’m 19😭)

[@ECL28E]

Reminds me of Disney's "Self-critique" moments in their current movies. "Ha ha, princess tropes are dumb, now let's not have any sort of insight and perform that trope with zero balm from now on." Realizing the issue is only half the battle; the next step is actually improving yourself

[@Mazou-tj4ne]

I think in some ways they do improve. Disney princesses have been criticized for having unrealistic body proportions and they gave Moana a realistic body. Disney princesses have been criticized for needing desperately a man, so they have the modern ones, like Elsa, Moana and Merida not looking for a romantic partner, but instead their inner selfs. Disney princesses have been criticized for having a passive role, so they make the new ones more energetic, athletic. Actually, the "Disney making fun of itself" (Elsa's "You can't marry a man you just met") joke worked at first, because people were very tired of Disney cliches, but this also turned into a cliché and it's not liked anymore.

[@withniejules2244]

@@Mazou-tj4ne Don't forget Mulan.

[@12ratsinyourbed]

@@Mazou-tj4ne i mean while they improve on the surface, this all feels really performative to me. for example, moana may have a different body type by being shorter and stockier, but raya, the newest addition arguably fits way better into the “unrealistic” standard again, and it’s not like we’ll see an actual fat character portrayed positively anytime soon. besides, the whole “dependent on a man thing” might’ve been something we needed to break from in like the 80s but now disney feminism is often reliant on making the girls more masculine. it’s just “hey look at this badass woman who can fight and is just as good as the boys!” but that still maintains that traits associated with men like physical strength are more valuable than stereotypically feminine traits (for example cinderella is actually a really well made character but people think she’s anti feminist because she “relies on a man to save her”. she was an abuse victim with no support she can’t just wander into the streets alone! she also takes her own actions to escape her toxic household but everyone ignores that part ofc). this isn’t a criticism of those movies you mentioned, but it’s just kinda noticeable how disney’s activism relies on surface level stuff without diving into the deeper issues. their ideal feminism is still “woman can be stronk (like man)”

[@The1Dragonprincess]

@@Mazou-tj4ne I feel like this more with the live action remakes. Such as making Emma Watson’s Belle “more feminist” and ostracized for it, and Liu Yifei’s Mulan a powerful warrior already in the beginning of her story. Things that seem progressive on the surface but have nothing genuine to uphold.

[@LittleHobbit13]

@@Mazou-tj4ne I will point out though that the criticism for "needing desperately a man" is usually a falsehood. Snow White just wanted to not be murdered, Cinderella wanted to attend the ball but she didn't go specifically to meet the Prince, Ariel was just rocking some anthropological passion when she met Eric, Jasmine exactly opposite ran off because she DIDN'T want to be sold off to a man, Belle was just trying to save her father and didn't give the Beast a second look until HE started to change, etc. The problem people often have with the classic Princesses is that they didn't punch and kick their way out of their problems, which people often characterize incorrectly as weakness and passivity. So when we talk about Disney doing "self-critiques", you do have to be careful to apply critical thinking to the argument they're making. We pedestal Moana as not needing a man to save her, but then neither did Cinderella. Cinderella saved herself by being kind and having the other shoe on hand. Meanwhile, you can argue that Moana almost didn't succeed in her journey until Maui showed back up to provide her cover on the home stretch. We pedestal the "can't marry a man you just met" line as so self-aware, but if you recall the details, Anna did in fact fall in love with Kristoff after knowing him for barely 2 days, and meanwhile Belle's story takes place over the course of several months. So again, you have to be careful not to oversimplify the details and really look at whether or not the arguments make sense and are in fact performing a legitimate self-critique rather than parroting fandom noise.

[@ashleymccready978]

10 Things I Hate About You will always be my favorite. I love how unapologetic and sharp Kat is. The chemistry Kat and Patrick had was refreshing in that it wasn't nerd girl falls for jock boy.

[@anoni6108]

Same I like how she was in the "heinous bitch scene"

[@kyleellis9177]

I always loved her sister and JGL's arc the most.

[@jenniferliu158]

@@kyleellis9177 fr cam and Bianca were so cute but no one really talks about them 😔

[@DaDunge]

Yeah I think it's a bit unfair to be thrown in alongside these other ones. The only tropes it has is the ending being at a prom and there being a party. Both echoing the Shakespeare play that is behind it more than the other teen movies.

[@DaDunge]

@kshamwhizzle Not that much better, she could have told her sister that the mastermind behind all that happened was not Joey but her. Not strictly speaking true but she did set all the things in motion. And Kat loves her sister while she really hates Joey so being manipulated by her would likely have been less horrible for her.

[@theaterobscura]

Pre-9/11 optimism was a time to be alive.

[@cattifyed]

Right?? It was wild

[@alexsmith2910]

You said it. Man I miss the nineties.

[@laurenfletcher8537]

That is such a good way to describe it. Wow

[@areskgplay2792]

*sad gen z noises *

[@caelmack]

Oof

[@escritora84]

I remember watching Bring it On for the first time and I remember dismissing it at first until the Clovers called them out on their cultural appropriation, and I was hooked. Bring it On really was the Trojan horse of insightful teen movies. Thank you for having Jessica on, this was a wonderful video!

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[@ronjamay]

One of the things I love about stick it is how her best friends are two guys but neither of them are secretly in love with her but they all genuinely care about each other, it’s so refreshing

[@Aster_Risk]

Yep. Those guys were well-written for being side characters.. I love the scene between the two where Poot gets called whipped for liking Joanne and he basically shuts that misogyny down by being like, "So? When has that ever been a bad thing."

[@ronjamay]

@@Aster_Risk and when they’re at the mall shopping for prom dresses and the boys try on dresses and make up as well and it’s just like they’re having as much fun as the girls, not like “oh it’s funny when men dress up as women”

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[@squidwardtentacles7144]

What show or movie is this?

[@ronjamay]

@@squidwardtentacles7144 Stick It (2006) ☺️

[@trinaq]

If "Not Another Teen Movie" got anything right, it was delightfully making fun of clichés in teen movies, such as the Prom, the "dorky" girl who is really pretty, and the Mean Girl and Dumb Jock.

[@blackguyofthesouth2161]

Love that movie

[@AxxLAfriku]

I broke my feet today because I kicked my computer because someone commented that my videos are bad! I hate unjustified criticism. Please wish me a speedy recovery, dear trina

[@Stephh99]

I agree that parts of it addressed the cliches really well but I feel like rather than pointing out the faults of the cliches it played into them. To me it felt like a parody rather than a satire, and personally I would've preferred the satire. Fun movie though, I did enjoy it

[@hobihope2981]

The only other thing they got right was casting Chris Evans

[@TerritorialPissings4]

I love the line like “isn’t it great that everyone at our high school is a professional dancer?” Haha

[@georgeprchal3924]

Don't forget the Toke Black Guy who just stands in the background and doesn't say much except for "Damn, Shit, and Oh that's Wack." There's also the reformed Cool Guy who learns the error of his ways.

[@kyleellis9177]

Thanks, MaIik. You're inteIIigent and insightfuI. You don't get the respect you deserve.

[@NJGuy1973]

And Token Black Guy goes to party, meets Other Token Black Guy who's at the wrong party.

[@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460]

​@@kyleellis9177 My death from laughing is your fault! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I always loved *Not Another Teen Movie* and that specific line had me dying laughing every time I heard it. Strangely, until today, I never realized the "dumb jock" who said it was a young *Captain America!* 😂

[@Andy-zp3mv]

it’s okay you can say clueless

[@YouTuberOnlineNow]

They forgot they are 20 and 30 year olds playing teenagers in these movies

[@stephanie6676]

These "teenagers" looked way over 40....Grease had a lot of nerve

[@liv97497]

There was a time when the pool of teen actors to cast from wasn't as deep as it is today. It steadily grew *because* teen movies were being made and were successful, but you couldn't expect Grease to cast actual teenagers in the 70's because, well, they weren't there. As the availability of teen roles and the search for teen actors grew, so did the demographic. But you have to remember that there's a difference between casting, say, a 19-year-old to play a 16-year-old, and casting someone who's actually 16, is still in school, have to work less hours, and the production has to comply to child labor laws and all that. I think a big part of it is just that it's easier to work with legal adults 🤷‍♀️

[@KiraFriede]

@Number Nine Kids and young teenagers are played by real kids or teenagers, because you can't get away with using adult actors. But if possible, producers will rather engage an adult than a teen. Another point is that child and teen acting is often not as good as someone from acting school.

[@lumarieguth322]

@@KiraFriede I also just feel really uncomfortable with the whole idea of child acting. Even if these actors are say 16 and over, it's likely that they got to where they are via child acting and even in the best of conditions it must be so hard to have to go to a lot of auditions and constantly be thinking about what adults you are working with want from you.

[@emilyzhou7443]

Yes. I’m currently 22 (although I do look younger like 18-19) but all these “teen” actors in these moves look older to WAY older than my peers, especially the guys. Like they look anywhere from 22-28 playing 14-18 year olds. Very realistic /s

[@franciscoancer2618]

I would have also mentioned "The Perks of Being a Wallflower" as a teen movie about outcasts.

[@sanyarizvi7673]

i feel like it fits the 2000s-2010s much better than the 90s tho

[@kendelrenee1]

I need more dark comedies aimed at teen girls like Heathers and Jawbreaker

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[@Michelle-mf8xl]

scream queens?

[@kendelrenee1]

@@Michelle-mf8xl That too! Sugar and Spice is a good one too, but there still isn't enough. Not all teen girls are into pink and getting the popular guy to like her. I wasn't.

[@amylu949]

I'm to young to have seen most of these movies, and I think it's funny as heck to see Cris Evans as a stereotypical highschool jock, instead of roles like Captain America. XD Edit: Thanks for all the movie recommendations, I will try to watch them as soon as I can. :D

[@maksimnikiforovski2034]

Gosh I feel so old all of a sudden! 😶

[@hobihope2981]

Dude youve GOTTA watch The Perfect Score- him, ScarJo, and a few others try to break into SAT headquarters in an attempt to steal the answers for the upcoming SAT.

[@wooof.]

I hated his arrogance in fantastic 4, what's your number as well and now he's my a much loved performer for me

[@thatonedog819]

You should watch knives out.

[@santiagobauza4257]

In Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, which was shockingly released the same year as the first Captain America, he also gets to mock those tropes. He's one of the best parts of a fantastic film.

[@jackiefae91]

I appreciate these movies for the time capsules they are. Also, during these Covid times, anyone else watch movies with crowded scenes and for a split second think “where’s everyone’s masks?”. I think it’s funny.

[@Cyssane]

I'm willing to be that there will be future movies referencing these Covid times, and those are going to be pretty interesting to watch.

[@Cyssane]

*willing to bet

[@kyleellis9177]

I'm honestly expecting laugh tracks to make a comeback. I like hearing someone laugh with me again and choose shows with them more often.

[@Cyssane]

@@kyleellis9177 Not me, I find them an annoying and artificial construct. If a show wants me to laugh, then the content should be genuinely funny. Laugh tracks are often used to cover up lazy writing.

[@missmoxie9188]

Sad but true

[@hallenelson2839]

Booksmart may just be my favorite teen movie. It's criminally underrated.

[@hannas.7188]

@Namu Situ agreed that it's a white girl movie, but aren't almost all teen flicks that didn't bomb at the box office and are considered 'charming flicks' kinda white girl movies? mean girls, 10 things i hate about you, edge of seventeen, she's all that... i think it bombed because there was minimal focus on romance, the leads weren't well known, the main lead wasn't conventionally attractive, and the main dynamic was a girl-girl friendship

[@plastictree7635]

@@hannas.7188 ur right

[@loiracitr]

It is truly a good movie

[@katieinflora9346]

@@hannas.7188 I agree so much and that’s sad. It’s such a hilarious movie I loved it

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[@jesrieldaug1258]

Now it's the time where you need to have a video on Booksmart. Every character in that movie is worthy of their own movie. It deconstructs teen stereotypes, and one of the good teen movies recently.

[@allabarkan671]

Absolutely love Booksmart! Also the perfect movie to have watched during Covid.

[@R7v4]

I miss late 90s and early 00s teen movies. They're full of clichés and very cheesy but also charming. Today's teen movies don't have that kind of charm anymore.

[@trinaq]

I agree, classic 90's teen flicks didn't really take themselves too seriously, but that's why we love them. Nowadays, most teen comedies hang lampshades on clichés, or subvert expectations.

[@tariromoyo348]

Thought I was the only one .I miss so many things about the 90s

[@isaacgray2909]

Now it's movies like Tall Girl and Sierra Burgess is a Loser that tries to present themselves as woke

[@SlayerNinaFriki]

The young people of the 90s have grow up and now they are nihilistic and frustrated, that's why the "new" teen movies are so depresing and thoughtful

[@hobihope2981]

I feel like Booksmart is the closest we've gotten recently. I wish it hadn't bombed at the box office cuz now hollywood prob wont give us more of the cheesy funny teenage friendship movies 😔

[@crimsonwerewolf424]

I'm so glad that Stick It has finally begun to receive the credit that it deserves. It's got the same iconic dialogue and self-aware sarcasm that made more popular movies like 10 Things I Hate About You and Heathers so beloved in the public eye. While bringing up important issues, it's still light-hearted enough to make it easy to watch in a continuous loop, which is why I prefer it over modern teen movies that sell themselves as "realistic," but can portray teen life in a way that almost seems too dark at times. In my opinion, modern movies tend to dwell more on the struggle, while older movies seemed to focus more on the journey as a whole. Additionally, Stick It didn't need to incorporate alcohol, drugs, and heavy party scenes in their portrayal of teen life. I remember watching a lot of teen films and seeing it so ingrained into their nature that I thought something was wrong with me because I didn't want to be involved with that kind of crowd. Stick It conveyed its rebelliousness through their characters' personalities rather than relying on cuss words, alcohol, or drugs, items that seem ubiquitous in modern teen entertainment.

[@munachisoobu]

Clueless is my favourite, a bit 'mainstream' but an ultimate classic. Sometimes when I watch I act like its a sing along and talk with the characters. Always quoting it as well.

[@Cyssane]

Plus it's based on Jane Austin's novel Emma. :)

[@franknfriends9987]

“UGH as IF”

[@lauravampire1276]

I feel it was very relatable! I love it too :)

[@whazup609]

Everytime a parody movie comes out about a genre almost entirely built on tropes and has success, it marks the need to push the genre forward. Scary Movie begot Saw, Austin Powers begot Casino Royale.

[@DeadlyDeadlyBeees]

That's a really good point!

[@tjslam26]

A couple of Aussie film school classmates who had a limited budget and had to think of a film that could be centered around one room begot Saw - a movie that wasn't even intended to be shown in theaters.

[@tjslam26]

The first Mission Impossible was released before Austin Powers. Two Bourne movies had already been released before Casino Royale. Two more Pierce Brosnan James Bond movies were released after Austin Powers.

[@whazup609]

@@tjslam26 its more about how there was a need to reimagine the Slasher movie. Thats what Saw was. Scary Movie was successful because audience could easily recognize the tropes. Who actually did it is irrelevant to my point but I didn't know Saw was Aussie filmmakers, thats cool. Daniel Craig himself said Austin Powers forced him to reimagine Bond.

[@tjslam26]

@@whazup609 Then you are confusing causality. While there may have been a need to reimagine the slasher movie genre, that need was what begot both Scary Movie and the progression in the genre. Movies like Final Destination and American Psycho were released earlier, and had already somewhat deviated from the Scream formula parodied in Scary Movie. Don't be confused by me specifying that the makers of Saw are Aussie or fresh off of film school. It has nothing to do with the main point. The movie is more of a product of the need to keep the events of the film in one location due to budget constraints and was already in development prior to Scary Movie's release (inspired by Blair Witch). The movie turned out to be more of the first installment of what turned out to be a "torture porn" franchise instead of a traditional slasher film anyway. “For James and I, SAW began back in 1999 when we first watched Blair Witch. It was a long journey to get to the point where everything happened very quickly.” - writer Leigh Whannel. While the genre needed to be reimagined, Scary Movie was not the turning point as 1.) other movies have already deviated from the formula and 2.) the movie you point out as being inspired by the film actually wasn't inspired by the film.

[@worldlit1146]

Defo to be continued with the twen-sagas "Legally Blonde" AND "Reality bites" to this subversive genre.

[@trinaq]

I highly concur! They all contain typical stock characters, who all turn out to have hidden depths, and be more well rounded than initially appeared!

[@worldlit1146]

@@trinaq The audience is much smarter than some might expect. I really enjoy re-watching those movies.

[@a.m4520]

The musical of legally blonde was the best though ;)

[@smurfylee]

Yes! I was thinking about reality bites while watching..gosh I miss those years..the scene in the shop dancing to my Sharona is classic!

[@worldlit1146]

@@smurfylee Agreed, a lot of great scenes. I like the paper-bag-suitcase.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Omg I was just watching ’Never Been Kissed’. Drew Barrymore deserves all the love in the world. I loved it when her character, Josie says: “What is with this school and prom?” 😂

[@ashleymccready978]

Me: Probably not going to stick around for the interview at the end. Also Me: sticks around the interview and is happy I did.

[@maggiekorell176]

Ghost World is my favorite teen movie. It showed me girls I could quickly relate to. They strived to be outcasts then were afraid to be alone. Enid’s constant lesson that she needs to keep learning more about herself is told beautifully. As an adaptation, it is one of the best in keeping the spirit of the source material while providing new content for old fans and great introductions for new fans.

[@goodjujuu]

Typical lunch table debate; “did Enid leave home or commit suicide at the end”

[@maggiekorell176]

@@goodjujuu I say leave home. Start fresh somewhere else.

[@MyCamilla1989]

When will America get over that “nerd vs jock” stereotyping with male characters? It’s anachronistic and idiotic.

[@sunshineNshit]

The new 21 Jump Street did do this in a hilarious way.

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

My favorite part about these movies is that even though they use the same tropes, some movies like she’s all that and 10 ten things I like about you are more remembered than other movies with said tropes because the style could be unique and some are acted better. There is a unique subtle monicker with these films that make them iconic.

[@greerphillips4756]

Ok, Stick It is an underrated classic

[@sophie2946]

I love that!

[@martu4425]

FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME ON THIS

[@withniejules2244]

Just rewatched the movie today, it rocks! It's free on KZbin.

[@Aster_Risk]

@@withniejules2244 Same! It's one of the funniest teen films I've watched, and it's like people sort of forgot it existed.

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[@taylorgayhart9497]

Stick was one of my FAVORITE teen movies!!!! I never understood why that movie wasn’t bigger!!!

[@nadjakari1752]

I loooooove it!!!!

[@bukitgordon1478]

My favorite was actually Bring it on, I was very young when it came out but I think watching it at a young age helped me have a more socially conscious mind. I became interested and concerned about racial justice, gender stereotypes and it also introduced me to a gay teen for the first time (Family Stone second) so to me it was normal growing up. I think seeing these films young helped me to see that everyone no matter what is a person and deserved respect. I can't wait to share these movies with my daughter.

[@belenlg5978]

I know all of these are flawed, but watching this take made me want to do a teen movie marathon. Love the genre despite being 30 now...

[@ShainaCilimberg]

People need to realize not everyone fits into only one style I could look like two different people on different days

[@sadtitties222]

Very true! I have ALWAYS liked different styles and subcultures (especially when it came to interior design, clothing, and music). I have never fit into just one "label" or "box".

[@siobhanmcshanehill895]

Yeah that’s one thing I think when people stick to one aesthetic in these films

[@ViolosD2I]

Especially if one of those is an Instagram pic. :D

[@worldlit1146]

Crazy that those actors who copied/persiflaged the teen genre in their very first roles are now THE major movie stars.

[@kyleellis9177]

I find it wierd how we don't really have movie stars anymore. only like 5 actors really count (based on box office value for studios) Ones who get 20 million a role kind of thing. It used to be a higher tier of actors, but it feels like we have less big and small names in film now and we mainly have a middle class of actors. Most actors seem to be kept around the 250'000-2 million dollar range and only a few are around 5 million for a role.

[@siobhanmcshanehill895]

@@kyleellis9177 it’s interesting I feel like celebrity worship culture has lessened, and I also think it’s the fact that media consumption has become more splintered of with steaming platforms

[@franknfriends9987]

@@siobhanmcshanehill895 I think a big part of this is the rise of things like KZbin, as well as all the various social media. It used to be that the only thing you had to do when you were bored at home was watch tv and movies. Now, when you’re bored at home, you’re scrolling through social media, maybe with the TV on in the background. That said, I also think that there has been a bit of a rise in appreciating cinema for more than just the “movie stars”. People watch movies and appreciate the cinematography, costumes, etc. We have more people who know the names of directors, production companies, etc. There’s also a big emphasis on authenticity in today’s generation, which I think has led to more lesser known actors being cast, because big names can sometimes take away from the film itself

[@AliceUnchain3d]

I'm glad that you mentioned Election with Reese Witherspoon. I was watching the video thinking it wont be mentioned at all cuz it's a hidden gem. Underrated. Seems Reese is remembered as Elle Woods all the time. Wich don't get me wrong Legally Blonde it is great an iconic but I think Tracy Flick is as great as Elle. Election is also very complex and characters may have cliches but then they have some complexity. Saying this I think I'm more lean to the late 90's/2000 teen movies/series. I love Freaks and Geeks.

[@Aster_Risk]

Reese is simultaneously Tracy Flick and Elle Woods for me! I can't unsee either character. I have that same thing about David Duchovny. To me he's Fox Mulder and Hank Moody at the same time.

[@GbyP]

While not a 90s movie, my favorite teen movie would have to be *Heathers*. Winona Ryder is amazing in her performance and deserved an oscar nod.

[@pacey5980]

Completely agree! Definitely pioneered that "self-aware" aspect being discussed in this video

[@greatgownsbeautifulgowns]

Every time I see 'Cruel Intentions'(7:44) I think of how when I went to see it at the movies with my mother, during an early scene with Kathrine where she touches her crucifix and says something about looking to Jesus for guidance, my mother whispered to me "There's cocaine in there." I was like, "Yeah, right no it isn't!"... but then later on Kathrine opened that crucifix and took a big ol' snort of cocaine and I was like, 😳 How tf--... WHY tf does my mother know that?! 😂

[@missmoxie9188]

She must have grown up in a time where coke was popular

[@katherineperez2928]

i just wanna say that this era of coming-of-age movies in recent years, w/ sincerity and compassion, reflects genuinely x vv well

[@jmgerraughty]

Because of this video, my wife is now upset that I have a hard time telling Can't Hardly Wait and She's All That apart. Thanks a lot, The Take!

[@juliannehannes11]

How dare you

[@danieladelatorre1815]

my current favorite teen movie is booksmart, as a high school nerd I always thought that I was better than classmates who had interests out of school and this movie really shows the limitations of that idea, as well as how previous teen movies usually reward the nerd for being a victim or an underdog. The movie makes you see there are no rewards or punishments embeded in liking or disliking activities. I hope I win those books! they would be really helpful for my undegraduate thesis on teen movies, competitions and the american dream.

[@abbypierce4196]

Damn, Cabin in the Woods might be the best take on Scream-like satire in our modern times.

[@yes2hvn]

I appreciate the art of these teen movies. Being a teenager is the most fragile time in your childhood. Slowly but surely the stereotypesare are being broken down into a more constructive story. I love the quote Jessica said in this video: "The unhealed rebel resorts to criminal behavior, but the healed rebel becomes the revolutionary behavior for the greater good."

[@greyLeicester]

Late 90s - early 2000s was a great time to be a teen!!!! I went from 14 to 18 over those years and I feel super blessed for it. I wouldnt like to be a teen in today's day and age.

[@siobhanmcshanehill895]

Everyone says that lmao. It’s rose coloured glasses tinted by nostalgia

[@jenniedarling3710]

I turn 18 in 1999, completely agree with you it was a great time in the UK there was such hope for the future and life was fun.

[@juankaeq]

I would argue that "Not another teen movie" is a reflection of the parody/spoof movie genre like Scary Movie, than it is a pure teen movie, hence the frame to frame spoofing of scenes. PS: Naming the main character Janie to do that "Janie's got a gun" scene while spoofing "10 things I hat about you" is for on the top of this genre XD

[@kyleellis9177]

It's 100% a spoof movie, the director even says so on my copy when I listen to commentary.

[@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460]

🎵 *So run away, ruuuunn awaaayyy from the paaaaiiiiiiiinnn!* 🎵 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@imaginingdefeat]

I haven’t yet seen Stick It, but my god, that shot of the gymnasts tumbling across the Macy’s entrance in tulle dresses is iconic 🤩 17:28

[@inescastellano7960]

"Not another teen movie" is a gem!!! I loved the old teen movies because they were funny. New teen movies are too dramatic to the point they need trigger warnings.

[@kyleellis9177]

We coddled the Zoomers so much, they can't handle life without baby proofing the edges.

[@Iamthatis137]

@@kyleellis9177 This really is an oversimplification and requires a lot of unpacking to discuss. First of all, “Zoomers”? 😅😂 The comment seems to me a generalization. I’m assuming that’s a name for “Gen Z” (even though the original commenter seems to be a “Millenial”). It’s not completely off-base in its observation. Would love to actually discuss more, I think. These kinds of “we coddled them and now they’re too soft” used to be exclusively lobbed at “millennials”, which I identify as (even though most “millennials” don’t; a distinct yet related topic). Now similar things are being said about Gen Z teens and young adults. In short, life and society are complex. We all know this to be true. I used to just lash out at these kinds of comments, in actual response and then more recently internally. Now, I see them as a diving board for discourse. I’ve just learned and come to completely understand, in a very real and practical way, that we’re all conditioned to divide and conquer (especially by “generation” on the net) each other and how it’s not anyone’s personal fault. You are a human being with valid opinions based from experience and life, as am I, even though they can often be expressed and interpreted as some kind of attacks which perpetuate vicious cycles of divisiveness. I might not agree with you, but that doesn’t mean I’m right and you’re wrong or vice versa. You and I would most likely benefit from an open conversation that will probably never happen. Mostly, because when I do comment, I don’t pay attention to any responses. I ignore my KZbin notifications. That might be my flaw, but I’m still not perfect. Just had to leave this here, because the recent horrible phenomena of constant arguing and fighting over the Internet through comments is becoming a thing of the past for many. And it’s glorious. We are all evolving, as shitty as things may currently seem. We’re all human beings.

[@smurfylee]

@@kyleellis9177 It started with millennials through the education system, softening them up with awards and rewards for just participating, a medal for 10th place yay!!

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

I thought (looking at poster) that Bridget Jones's Diary was a teen movie about a student figuring out which professor was hotter. Man I was messed up as a kid or just noticing Hollywood tropes...

[@StopThatSquirrel]

My favorite teen movie will always be Ferris Bueller's Day Off! It perfectly encapsulated that mixed energy of independence and fear of the unknown that you feel at the very end of high school. The characters had so much depth and Sloan was like the original "cool girl" without even trying. Absolutely a classic!

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

I didn't know I needed this. Can you explore the marriage pushing mother? Redheaded girl in Can't Hardly Wait is low key a 90s update to Molly Ringwald. Talk about Only The Lonely?

[@trinaq]

Oh yes, Lauren Ambrose! I remember loving her in "Six Feet Under." I still have fond memories of that show, and Can't Hardly Wait!

[@rdpcl]

Can't Hardly Wait made me feel like I was a US high school student. It's also full of great lines. I still listen to the soundtrack.

[@marsukarhu9477]

I loved "Freaks & Geeks" !! Had totally forgotten all about it.

[@daneroberts1996]

It looks like another trope of this genre is the actors looking like they're in their 30s

[@emilyzhou7443]

True. I wouldn’t say the actors look that old imo, more like mid to late 20s

[@juliannehannes11]

@@emilyzhou7443 better they be older than have actual underage teens, look what early fame did to poor Lindsay Lohan an actual teen playing teens and then compare it to Rachel McAdams who broke out playing teens at 25.

[@pacey5980]

Also they don't want to hire actual teens bc of child labor laws. Hiring adults to play children/teens circumvents having to abide by those laws.

[@brokenglassshimmerlikestar3407]

I love "Ghost World" and I get excited every time you guys mention it! I wish more people watched that movie.

[@darnellmajor9016]

The problem I had with Ghost World is how deep it was trying be when it wasn't saying much at all LOL I'm it intended to say something unique but the message gets lost in exposition and over-the-top artsy acting.

[@catofthecastle1681]

10 things was so much better than most! I think because she thought she was self aware, but she was only that way about everyone else! She lost it when she was involved!

[@Kagomai15]

That interview at the end was a healing experience for me and I legitimately cried. Thank you so much for this video.

[@christinearmstrong9412]

I recommend watching “Beyond Clueless.” The film covers high school tropes, and references so many iconic teen movies from the late 90’s and early 2000’s. It makes me nostalgic for that era!

[@amyarias242]

Honestly always blown away by your content , I feel terrible I can't support your channel more , you guys just deserve so much recognition for the amount of work and depth of work that goes into everything

[@isaacgray2909]

I was just thinking about this topic and you immediately upload this video afterward haha I really missed 90s and 2000s teen movies.

[@mahamzahid7846]

My favourite teen movies had to be John Tucker Must Die and Angus Thongs and Perfect Snogging! Although pretty sure there's more, they were such a big part of growing up in the 000's.

[@PhilosophicalBum21]

I don't have a favorite teen movie. But I really enjoyed "The Cabin in the Woods." It's self-referential like other teen horror movies, but it feels fresh. And the ending is quite unexpected, but feels "right" at the same time. I loved how the movie shows that pigeon-holing people into archetypes/stereotypes doesn't work out well, because people are always going to act outside of expectations/the roles given to them. Lots of the forces that shape us are outside of our control, but we still have a choice in deciding who we want to be.

[@paolaaracelyilescas9987]

Loved the interview!! Biggest take away lol "patriarchal is win lose.. matriarchal is win win.", "the road of redemption from that loss"

[@aarikablack23]

Loved the inclusion of an interview with a director from the genre featured, it was great to get an even deeper analysis with an insider l. Would love to see more of this.

[@nikkywalks9271]

i love the discussion at the end so much. the thing that occurs to me- it's also money. knowing that you're "enuf" inside is good, but often times, it doesn't get you paid. so it's like... i'll get paid WHEN i'm enuf. that's the lie that is so easy to believe. any way- thank you for this video!!!

[@maggierobertson2962]

Please do a deep dive on Freaks and Geeks, maybe also where the characters could have gone if the series was allowed to continue.

[@MM-pl8ib]

Yes!

[@Aster_Risk]

That show was really important to me as a teen. I have severe death anxiety, and I felt very seen when Lindsay talked about their grandma dying and how she saw nothing. That there is nothingness after death, and it's unfair. That was the first time I heard a young person like me say out loud those things I'd been thinking.

[@TheShardOfGlass1]

Yes! Its not talked about enouģh

[@harvestmoon_autumnsky]

Best TV show of all time.

[@somethingcooliguess]

I always wondered why the movie was called "Drive Me Crazy". It didn't have relevance to the story and is kind of an incomplete phrase. I remember the Making the Video on MTV. Good ol' days.

[@DezMarivette]

“Not Another Teen Movie” is a brilliant weaving of parodied narratives. 10/10 still holds up today!

[@teddie552]

I don't think you mentioned Drop Dead Gorgeous, which was great.

[@jubs61]

I am dying for a video about Dawson’s Creek from you, girls !!

[@Aster_Risk]

Seriously! They've been doing videos for awhile and have skipped one of the biggest, most parodied teen shows of the last 30 years! A video is way overdue.

[@NDUWUISI]

I watch a lot of video essays, and as a male nerd there's definitely a certain perspective that tends to be represented over others. Especially the male one. Your channel has helped me be more thoughtful in how I approach these topics and helped me be more aware of female perspectives that tend to not be at the top of the algorithm nor the conversation. And as a Black man, I appreciate the inclusivity in your topics and analysis. I love this channel!

[@Leto85]

29:20 'The unhealed rebel resorts to criminal behavior, but the healed rebel becomes the revolutionary.' Wow! That's just brilliantly said. This reminds me of the Enneagram system, in which characters' behavior follows a certain recognizable pattern when they are healed and when they're broken.

[@helen8022]

I think Legally Blonde would be my favorite teen movie lol.

[@andresbecerra1183]

Lol. I don’t think that qualifies as a teen movie at all. It takes place in grad school. All of the characters are probably in their mid 20s.

[@andresbecerra1183]

Still a great movie though

[@siobhanmcshanehill895]

Legally blonde is fantastic but Elle is like 23, and I think that’s good because need more films about 20 somethings

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[@kevintan1104]

Wonderful re-examination of a golden age in cinema and pop culture!

[@internetchild1989]

I watched Stick it when it came out and I never paid attention to the real message when I was 6 or 7. And now I'm 20 so it hits very different now.

[@arelis4553]

Oh my goodness, that discussion at the end was AMAZING! I loved it so much!!!! I'd love to see the full interview, she is so, so cool!!!!!!!!

[@i.am.adrian]

These are all examples of 'always watch' movies...movies that come on cable every now and then, and whenever you see it, you just have to finish it. I was in my late 30s when Booksmart came out, but it made me feel like a teenager all over again.

[@robchuk4136]

I own Stick It. Legitimately love that movie. Nice to see someone anywhere on KZbin giving it props! And I think it was the inspiration for the show "Make it or Break It" which I also enjoyed. Cheers. Great video. Glad you brought up Scream and Kevin Williamson. That film didn't just change horror, it permeated through teen culture at large. If it can count as a teen movie, it is my pick. But my favorite teen anything also happens to be my favorite tv show of all time: My So-Called Life, which also got a shoutout. This video had it all 👍

[@anonanon6786]

Extremely surprised that you guys haven't mentioned Skins in this or in any of your other videos!

[@frankenviews4069]

Not Another Teen Movie is a spoof/gag satire film as popularized by Airplane, Hot Shots, the Naked Gun series and the Scary Movie series. The replication of scenes is fundamental to the satire genre.

[@ronnie10151]

Hard to pick a favorite teen movie since I grew up with them, but probably would say “Clueless.” The mix of the storyline, fashion and characters just makes it a classic.

[@Aster_Risk]

American Pie is basically a perfect teen movie and has something for everyone. There's friendship, romance, lots of genuine heartfelt moments, several types of humor, attractive guys and gals and a great soundtrack. It's unfairly maligned because of the supposed raunchiness. Despite being a bit dated with references and jokes, it deserves to be looked at for more than what's on the surface. American Pie is in my top three favorites right behind Sugar and Spice.

[@NoOneReallySpecial]

I completely agree, especially when it gets into the romance parts like how the Jim learns to love someone completely outside of what he was searching for (a good lesson for people in terms of romance because a lot of times you end up finding the perfect person if you're not always searching for love) and how Oz doesn't spill the beans on his love life, etc. And, while it may be dated, you can still learn from it. It's got a lot of great humor still and the characters are still funny and charming. Sugar and Spice is super adorable, too.

[@robflores4274]

This is my first "The Take" video...and by golly it was extremely well thought out & well written. Kudos!

[@alisonserene39]

i honestly don't think i'll ever be able to stop watching teen movies lmao

[@seunb27]

yeah same

[@QuizPandaTrivia]

This video was so insightful and interesting! Thank you The Take for another great video!

[@Setsunako6587]

The conversation at the end was E V E R Y T H I N G ! ! ! Thanks for reminding me to watch Stick It again (I already have Bring It On memorized, lol). Happy Anniversary 💕

[@goodjujuu]

I remember taping Bring It On (🤦🏽‍♀️) to watch Jesse Bradford over and over again

[@TheAedrias]

More of this, more interviews in the take episodes. This was a moment and I'm so excited to see y'all grow. Thanks for this 😊

[@culturequeens1734]

What made Stick It great was that they were fighting against a system instead of each other. Each character had a personality and they had their differences but differences aren't always a point of contention like other movies try to make it seem. Will always be my fave.

[@lindseysteward7736]

I enjoy Bring It On and Stick It! I also loved The Breakfast Club.

[@doughnuthead8757]

Toxic Takeaways of American Pie (and its sequels).

[@aaronclift]

That webcam scene has aged very poorly.

[@austinwalker240]

I still absolutely love that movie, but your not wrong.

[@noone.3532]

This is a great channel. I'd love to see your take on "my name is Earl" TV show?

[@LordHollow]

"Can't Hardy Wait" is one of my absolute favorites.

[@lmerce3855]

Watching these makes me so nostalgic! I grew up watching all of these, I would have sleepovers with my friends and watch 2-3 of these type of movies. Childhood happens so fast.

[@rodU65]

As a millenial, these movies are funny but don't make any sense. I never worry about the popular group, or knew that existed. I was worry to study and go back to my house.😐😎

[@lisah8438]

That is because high school culture in the 80s were different than high school we millennials deal with

[@siobhanmcshanehill895]

@@lisah8438 I’m closer to gen z but this is one issue with high school movies. The writers have usually been out of high school for a long time

[@Tulpen23]

Loved the discussion at the end - so many good points! Thank you!

[@brelay4706]

Thank you so much for making these videos, they are amazing! The interview at the end was great.

[@hallotschuss4177]

the interview was so great

[@shammerHammer]

Got an instant goose bump just *SEEING* the dad in eight grade give his speach without hearing any word. Bo is just a phenomenal writer.

[@teesh871]

It's weird cause stick it I had no idea it existed but my older sister was/is obsessed with gymnastics so she showed me stick it...and I was surprised it wasn't as mainstream as bring it on cause it was just as amazing. I remember loving these movies for their nostalgic purposes even now so I'm glad they exist/existed but all those points you made I remember internalising them as a young teenager/tween...like 'damn Katherine you're right that's an awesome point!' But then like 'oh no wait I don't wanna be Katherine...better be pure and agreeable ...Katherine is evil and awful..' Then it was reiterated with 'oh and not another teen movie says she's gross as well' (I mean she is...she's a terrible person with good points which exactly as you say...messes with the message in my young brain). Again thanks for the video xx

[@M.E.C.....]

Love the interview at the end!! Such a great addition

[@gundamnmechas8518]

13:25 dang...good thing Freddy Prinze Jr found voice acting

[@mwakampundu239]

I think it's good that new movies have a new take on the genre but it's fine to love the teen movies of the 90s and early 00s too. Sometimes people just crave escapism or something that makes you feel fluffy and warm inside and that's okay❤️.