How Smash Amiibo 'learn' (Training Smash Bros Amiibo figures with other Amiibo)

[@AmiiboDoctor]

Alright, so let's go down the list here. 1. Turning Learning off with your amiibo at level 1 means that they don't change from the default behavior. As they level up, the game will access the level-stepped AI for that amiibo, and they'll play differently, but that's because the AI changed - not because their training was different. However, you gave your amiibo spirits, which does alter their playstyle and behavior variable data - thus these experiments aren't necessarily indicative of how amiibo learn from a blank slate. 2. Amiibo that have no training due to having Learning off since level 1 do fight like Level 9 CPUs after the level-step AI kicks in - but they also operate under the rules of amiibo. They're frame-perfect, have issues against command grabs, etc. 3. You're correct about the character giving an advantage over others - I've written and recorded extensively on the competitive community amiibo tier list at my website. 4. Amiibo have 540 bytes of information on the chip, and about 1/3rd of that is unused in Smash. 5. Your Little Mac did multiple up tilts in a row because amiibo have a specific byte that describes how often to reuse up tilt after landing an initial hit. This is character-specific and doesn't apply to every character. Oddly enough Ganondorf's byte is on, which is why he'll spam up tilt and only up tilt if you allow him to use it. 6. Your hunch about learning combos is mostly correct - I've done a video on amiibo comboing. There are two types of combos, and the one you noticed is pre-programmed combos. Up tilt is the most common, but other amiibo such as Pichu, Joker, and Bayonetta all have pre-programmed combos outside of up tilt. This is a good start into amiibo research. The competitive amiibo scene has decrypted and reverse-engineered the amiibo byte behavior to figure out what each variable does and how they're used using behavior editors. There's significantly more to amiibo learning than is immediately obvious.

[@mr.q1817]

Yo thanks for the updated information! This is all really good stuff. Sorry my response is late, but if I ever make a more in depth video I'll make sure to use the latest info

[@jamesp4787]

Didn’t expect to see doc here.

[@YallGonMakeMe245]

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[@OBRIEN-kb1xf]

I know you made this video a year ago but I also wanna add that I’ve come to a conclusion. Training amiibo against your own playstyle or against another amiibo, is 100% better than it learning from a level 9 cpu. I’ve come to notice that if you only train it through a computer, it will for some reason have a strong tendency to air dodge constantly. Great video on explaining everything 👍🏻

[@mr.q1817]

Huh, that's good to know, I'll keep it in mind!

[@OhSoTiredMan]

From fighting a bunch of level 9 cpu they air dodge a lot.

[@GexLogm]

Look, mom, I'm in a Mr. Q video! This was a really fun video to watch, and really funny too! I look forward to seeing more content from the Big Q

[@mr.q1817]

Well I gave her a heads up last night, but I'm glad you it funne

[@GexLogm]

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[@skaven969]

This actually helped

[@cooperbradley110]

Definitely a fan of this kind of content, very cool, Big Q

[@mr.q1817]

DUDE someone *actually* replied when asked what they thought of the video! Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it

[@MinMin4theWinWin]

And then Kazuya came out proving everyone wrong about amiibo not being able to learn combos xD

[@ssunlimited9]

A few incorrect things: Amiibo only have 540 Bytes but naming and registering it uses around 37 bytes so it really only has around 500 Bytes to work with 2: (just a thing) They change the data as they fight, each attack has 256 values or Hexadecimal values HEX when u don’t have learning on over time they will try random attacks and the ones that are effective will be used again And also amiibo just taunt way more than CPU’s without learning

[@mr.q1817]

That's good to know-Thank you for the right information!

[@ssunlimited9]

Also if u do have learning on the attacks u do on them they will do back to u in a different manner

[@quiche6400]

why does my game and watch amibo only down smash why

[@GexLogm]

Because it's optimal

[@mr.q1817]

Well, many Amiibo use down smash too much, but in Mr.Game and Watch's case it is the most optimal big brain move. Most people think his best move would be Up-B, but this only works out of shield, whereas his down smash ALWAYS works.

[@MetaKnightX6]

Quiche u should put ur amiibo in a 7 on 1 (no I’m not crazy trust me) against 7 lvl 9 cpus (preferably same character) on a medium stage for like 10 stocks coz then the amiibo will be forced to use different attacks in the short windows of opportunities it has to use them. And I tried this with my d3 and all it took was a few games for him to stop spamming up b without me having to reset him so yea it works

[@3EyesPurpleCat]

Hmm...what would happen if you trained an amiibo with a pro tournament player?.

[@notmychannelanymorelol]

My richtor amiibo won’t stop f- smashing and it’s frigging annoying

[@mr.q1817]

Damn, thats amiibo lol. you can reset it if needed(although Richter F-smash can be good)

[@notmychannelanymorelol]

Ok, thanks for the advice!

[@lexjau]

Sooooo.... should I leave the learning “ON” after it’s level fifty? Should I leave it on vs other characters?

[@mr.q1817]

lex jau so that depends if you want it to continue growing and learning. If you are happy where it is, turn learning off. But if you want it to use different moves, or have a different play style then turn it on. While it is on I would suggest playing the amiibos character against it 80%-90% of the time to teach it better habits. Good luck and for other information check the website in Amiibos Doctors reply

[@drgrim1066]

Idk if I’m to late but if u turn learn on does it make them mimic a playstyle or try to outplay once there level 50 my k Rool needs a little bit of some tweaking but idk if I should play my main puff bc she jumps a lot and I don’t want k Rool to do that pls help thx in advance if u do

[@mr.q1817]

So from what I understand they mimic certain attacks given certain situations. This means that ideally yes you would play the same character, but if you are bad at Krool but need the amiibo to use back air, and you use back air as puff, the amiibo would have the same result as if you used back air as Krool. But for optimal training/learning I would suggest playing the same character as the amiibo most of the time to build habits you want. Hope this helps!

[@mr.q1817]

Also if you are trying to teach them certain habits or combos i would turn learning on. If you are just toying around then it doesnt matter a lot either way :)

[@drgrim1066]

Mr. Q ok thanks a lot but if I could ask 1 more question does it learn from its mistakes with learning off

[@mr.q1817]

@@drgrim1066 sorry this is late but I am not sure. I can recommend more information in the Exion Vault website that Amiibo Doctor linked tho

[@Warper74]

Can I teach my amiibo combos ?

[@bowserfire39]

So training an amiibo by fighting each other is the right way to do it?

[@Quarrall3]

not necessarily but its fun

[@mr.q1817]

Yeah, its not the "correct way" but if you need a lot of amiibo trained it works! Not the most competitively viable tho

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[@Mungbean6]

Epic quarrall time

[@mr.q1817]

More like Army is always epic time

[@Mungbean6]

No... no not again. Not army epic time