HOW SPIDER-MAN 2 CAN GET VENOM RIGHT - Gutter Space

[@GodzillaMendoza]

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[@RisingJay]

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[@tylerparkes-jk7uv]

Are you going to do the Spiderman 2017 cartoon review?

[@nettune9980X]

Hopefully your father is doing well.

[@Robin_Is]

Ok.

[@The4thSnake]

Venom should have shoe feet and smooth skin, and Carnage should have the toes and sinewy body. Venom is a suit Eddie wears; Carnage is Cletus's final form.

[@The4thSnake]

@@WSendam I'm not sure what there is to say there.

[@TheSwordsman100]

It also reflects their characters. Eddie is a anti-hero that yearns for redemption into a full on superhero, hence why his Venom form is a superhero suit aside from the head. Cletus has always been a monster.

[@The4thSnake]

@@WSendam King has really grown on me over the last couple years.

[@reaper.-._.-._.-._.-.]

Agree

[@marko-gj1uj]

​@@TheSwordsman100yeah. That would be cool

[@humanweaboo]

well now we know why the game didn't get a GOTY they didn't make venom's feet look like shoes

[@gogetathestrongestfusion]

At least we got to free roam as venom fighting crime and Symbiote and him just riding a bike is something else

[@dillonyousif6110]

I love this symbiote design because of how similar it looks to an organic exoskeleton while also looking sleek.

[@SonicXeno]

0:50 I feel like Eddie has a solid chance being in 2. Remember that they kept Doc Ock a secret until the game dropped so it’s possible they’re teasing Harry being Venom as a swerve to not spoil Eddie’s involvement in 2. We’ll have to wait and see I guess

[@FlameOfUdun96]

Idk why people seem to think that introducing and developing a villain within one game is so “impossible”…they literally did the exact same thing on their first attempt lmao

[@InReserveProductions]

I honestly think the villain they're hiding is Norman as Green Goblin.

[@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099]

Very true

[@Young_Special]

​@InReserveProductions naaah, the second game will DEFINITELY set up the mental breakdown that norman will gain... and walk the path of insanity. But streight up Green Goblin? Too much when they're focusing on Kraven and Venom, ya' know! Let's not rush this specific one so we can have him perfectly set up within the third game.

[@InReserveProductions]

@@Young_Special Yeah because 20 hours isn't enough time for that.

[@cas9564]

The best part is that any fight against the Symbiote in SM2 is definitely gonna have one of it's defining aspects being "Nope screw you symbiote doesn't trigger the Spider-Sense". Miles in the gameplay showcase didn't detect Peter until *after* he crashed through the roof and that fight as Miles against Peter is gonna be both emotionally hard AND gameplay hard.

[@radrno7]

I was thinking about that. Miles won't wear the symbiote (even if he did, his powers would repel it), so his spider sense can work against Venom, but what if it's Peter inside? His spider sense won't be triggered because Peter is his friend, so I believe that's gonna be what will hinder Miles in comparison to Peter and his weakness to the symbiote.

[@PlayerZeroStart]

True, although hard mode disables the spider sense anyways so anyone playing on that difficulty wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

[@prodigypixel7103]

@@PlayerZeroStartno it doesn’t 💀

[@CinnaRoar]

This aged poorly

[@daystyrfer7887]

I love how no one is talking about this video’s plot twist

[@UnderscoreCubed]

Brooklyn and queens is included in the game. The map size is “roughly” 2 times larger than the first games according to Bryan Intihar of Insomniac Games

[@AnimatedTerror]

Thanks for making a more clear point on the roles that actors vs voice actors play. I’m not necessarily against a screen actor doing voice acting. But typically when they cast some random semi relevant celebrity it’s clear their priorities aren’t in giving a good performance.

[@BugsyFoga]

It’s interesting to think we finally got new gameplay footage for the game after two years since the announcement trailer when you consider the amount of gameplay they showed for the ps4 game, im guessing they didn’t want to reveal too much this time, which I certainly can applaud.

[@ar_reactions612]

I think as far as alternate suits go, Insomniac will bring back the most popular ones people really liked but the ones most didn’t care for like the Fear Itself or Undies will be left out

[@dylang1138]

you leave the undies out of this

[@yobama6052]

Fear itself never hurt you

[@thatoneguy5343]

The undies suit is the AMERICAN DREAM my guy!

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

I would like to see some obscure suits. Like the suit from spiderman unlimited.

[@ComicWriter-ml3qt]

What about the secret wars outfit?

[@FlameOfUdun96]

Ackshually Xavier 🤓 there are hints that the symbiote could have come from space, like how the science museum in the Miles game showed that Oscorp invested money/resources into space exploration and had their own spacecraft. They could do a similar thing to Spectacular and have Connors study it after it arrives on Earth. Hopefully they go with this direction, because I much prefer it to an artificial bio-form

[@jingleballs9935]

Very true. I think insomniac even hinted that the suit will be changing.

[@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099]

@@jingleballs9935 that’s very nice to hear

[@renatoandresmartinezrubio8428]

Thats interesting, they could have discovered venom while on space and while running tests on it they found its symbiotic properties and how it strengthens its host. Osborn attached it to harry as a life support but the symbiote rejected him because he is sickly. Also all the tests and experiments made on the poor creature to enhance its capabilities turning it insane and hateful towards mankind, would be interesting as a way to bridge both the alien and man-made origins of symbiotes.

[@phantomgamer9264]

​@@renatoandresmartinezrubio8428GREAT IDEA

[@basedcringechad5640]

Given the "We will" line from that teaser all those years ago I'm pretty sure the symbiote is sentient which makes me pretty confident it's an alien

[@andrewfollette5342]

Given that the new demo shows Peter getting the black suit, I feel like it would be very strange if the symbiote was separated from Harry, only to go back to him so he could become Venom. I’m pretty sure Insomniac would know that a lot of fans think Harry as Venom is a bad idea.

[@InReserveProductions]

They probably get it to bond with Spider-Man so that it becomes stronger with the hopes that will help Harry get better faster.

[@superthorc6894]

Like I get the idea but they are so much more interesting separately then together

[@benwashacked3350]

I believe I did hear that the Harry VA was changed due to him having a bigger role in the story, most likely due to him being Venom

[@InReserveProductions]

@@superthorc6894 They are but this is the corner they wrote themselves into.

[@NadeemShekh-uy9zn]

Or it's a good idea that you haven't thought of yet

[@kazuochaed]

I love this video’s title because all that is really said about what is needed for venom is not to give him toes

[@Jcecil1035]

Insomniac saw this video and said "fuck him in particular"

[@Julian-um2om]

Hollywood repeatedly casting celebrities over voice actors is really pissing me off too. That whole industry of voice acting has been underappreciated for decades simply because of big wigs not recognizing the real talent in that field. Can’t wait to see you talk about ATSV!!!

[@Courier_333]

I like how when you show movies where the heroes save normal, average citizens are Raimi movies. He pays WAAY more attention and empathy to the random person than any other superhero movies

[@Kriss_ch.]

I think it's funny that it's exciting that Miles is there so you can have a Spider-Man mirror match boss fight when that's like the whole point of Venom in the first place. Here's this guy who does everything you can do but he's buff.

[@Texasezra]

VENOM HAS TOES LOL 💀

[@kosaku_kq5601]

I'm just wondering how Insomniac's portrayal of Lizard will pan out

[@gogetathestrongestfusion]

Hoping it closer to like Spectacular Spider Man but not keeping turning him back into the Lizard

[@IronNinja]

24 hours later… Well… he’s not Eddie Brock, and his toes are entirely visible

[@spider-films6980]

Me coming back too this video to say it didn’t age well because the symbiote is an alien ( part of gozillamendoza’s plan worked )

[@everyoneknowsimlogan4770]

Oooh new gutter space! Been missing these a bit!

[@Prizm17]

Seeing as there is a switch character mechanic I can absolutely see a part where Peter gets buried and you switch to miles and have to deal with the city and story and Peter comes back when he digs his way out im hyped thinking about it tbh lmao

[@Mr.DelicateTouch]

I LOVE the decision to have Gumball’s VA voice Leo. It’s something I didn’t even think about at first but it fits.

[@RyanChenMusic]

I hope they do a fake out like they did in spectacular Spider-Man with the goblin- like they know we’ll be expecting harry or Eddie to be venom and use that to their advantage to steer us in wrong directions

[@mrboerger1620]

Paul being venom

[@JanWeAreVenom]

Am hoping Venom will one day get his own spinoff game or be playable in spider-man 2....I just want to play as him, but hay at least we have the black suit.

[@Wizard-ir3ew]

Play Ultimate Spider-man

[@JanWeAreVenom]

@@Wizard-ir3ew I have but would like it if venom could be playable in a new spider-man especially spider-man 2

[@Wizard-ir3ew]

@@JanWeAreVenom I feel like insomniac wouldn't do Venom justice tho in terms of game play, as he would be more streamlined than the crazy stuff He can do in ultimate and web of shadows

[@JanWeAreVenom]

@@Wizard-ir3ew Maybe your right, but still I think insomniac could do something really fun and interesting if venom's gameplay, plus if it's 18+ like Logan then the finishers would be amazing with gore.

[@Operation_Bagel]

So they gave Venom the toes and said it's not Eddie lol RIP

[@JogVodka]

You were like 70% right about your Spider-Man 2 predictions. Sadly we didnt get much symbiote suits and not every suit returned in this game.

[@Spooder_Man1421]

I like how at the trailer, everyone thought most of peter's moves were super agressive, but when the game released both characters got them

[@Iron_Editzz8]

They both had a mutual agreement to beat the sh!t out of their enemies even more than usual.

[@randomgamer625]

Yeah I felt that, it’s especially funny that both Danica and MJ report that spider man is being aggressive but then he does the same but with a white suit and somehow that’s A ok 😂 Still a great game tho ❤

[@shadowanderson2004]

They’ve already confirmed that venom is an alien in this game so WOHO!

[@haydentcem]

Spider-Man 2099 is Blue. You will never win this argument. You shall always be the skyjack where everyone else is the chad

[@pizzaninja0]

I've always enjoyed the gutter space videos so it's nice to know that his still making more of them

[@chrisj.3290]

I still have hope that Insomniac will give the Venom symbiote the alien origin, considering that in the Miles game there's a segment where Miles and Phin pass through an Oscorp Space Exploration room with rocket shuttles and stuff, so Venom being an alien lifeform instead of living synthetic goop is still possible

[@DiamondBatToons]

I've never seen a Gutter Space video before, so it's actually really refreshing to see you talk about other franchises like Transformers & TMNT.

[@zOOpygOOpert]

Off topic: but at the mention of Chris Hemsworth I do hope he's okay since he has Alzeimers.

[@Vintagesonic1]

6:14 Oh cool, I made it into a GodzillaMendoza video!...well at least one of my screenshots I took for someone that was used as the thumbnail for their mod. That mod being the "My Own Symbiote Suit" mod.

[@Equus21]

I really want a Venom: Lethal Protector video game.

[@ovahlord1451]

maybe a DLC

[@NadeemShekh-uy9zn]

I want a Spider-Man 2099 game

[@Geozone117]

​@Nadeem Shekh no thanks

[@NadeemShekh-uy9zn]

@@Geozone117 ok boomer

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

Closet we ever got to having Venom as Dlc in marvel midnight suns. Which btw spiderman makes a deal with Mephisto to remove Lilith’s spell on him.

[@gogetathestrongestfusion]

Finally was Waiting for you to talk about this can't wait for the Spider Charlie Hordes to return

[@joshuaoneal233]

Actually Miles didn't teleport when using that first combat move in the gameplay demo, slow down the playback speed and you'll see him charging himself up, then camouflaging as he jumps off his perch, then lands to zap the enemies and turns off his invisibility.

[@NoNonsenseSpider]

The symbiote suit is so hideous, I have no idea what Insomniac did to it

[@BangBangspideyproduc]

Well some of this aged horribly 😭😭

[@Albert_YTC]

Anyone else rewatching gutter space since there hasn’t been a new one in ages?

[@BM-sg1sl]

Venom got 2 seconds in this video and it was about his feet!

[@himynameiskobey.7994]

My favourite part of Godzilla Mendoza videos are watching them during class on my school account and rewatching it on my personal account so I can feel like I'm doing something.

[@Mr.Maguro]

I wouldn't be surprised if they saved Eddie for a Venom spin-off game recycling the mechanics of the black suit.

[@CartooKid]

You finally uploaded a video this year! Love your work!

[@randomgamer625]

0:44 that aged poorly

[@M53614]

The best use of that "Why are you blue?!" Breaking Bad reference.

[@bigfatsumo35]

So glad Unicron isn’t like Thanos or Kang, not every big villain needs to be set up across multiple films

[@HenryLouis21]

I feel like someone like Unicron should be treated like Galactus, a villain built up through multiple movies and serve as an endgame villain. The director said it himself that Unicron would be built up but we are seeing him being introduced here in this movie before we get a proper threat with him.

[@faherty87]

I love how youre relatively one of the younger youtubers i follow but uou have the most mature ads. Scarlet Johanson did pretty well in Her with just her voice.i think. Side bar, the bell icon totally works. I get these vids in my feed the day they release. I qas missing them for a whole before I clicked it

[@Nightmare-dv8yk]

YES, been waiting to see your looks on this

[@yanzthemanz392]

We moved on from that one screenshot of Miles and Peter looking into the alley, being the picture everyone uses, to the screenshot of black suit Spidey being the picture everyone uses.

[@davidlayhue4860]

i get so hyped every time i get a notification for ur vids man, keep it up, great work :D

[@comixproviderftw_02]

Miles is about to learn the hard way with Symbiote Spider-Man. He’s not ready for Bully Lowenthal.

[@thatoneguy5343]

Bully Lowenthal: *GET BACK HERE MILES!!!* Miles: (RUNNING FOR HIS FUCKING LIFE.) Bully Lowenthal: *MILES!!!* Miles: (Climbs to top of Church to the church bell preparing his bio electricity) Bully Lowenthal: *YOU CAN’T ESCAPE ME; I’LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH!!!*

[@dreamcast2k1]

The mega collection music goes hard

[@ultragodzillafan]

I'm kinda wondering if we'll get a 'Venomized' Kraven in the game, like in the 'Life Story' comic.

[@leeb5112]

i think bian tyree henry could be good as megatron, he’s already a great actor with a theater background and spider-verse proved he can make that jump to voice acting with little trouble. his range as an actor is absolutely absurd so i have faith in him to deliver at the very least.

[@fullmetal2455]

Atlanta is fucking amazing

[@kernosbattoons6504]

this venom section of this video aged really badly 😭

[@tavinprice2310]

I didnt even know you were a transformers fan but im happy to learn that

[@Frank-zb7zh]

Honestly, I haven’t touch Twitter for almost a month and that alone has made me enjoy the media I consume more. Also transformers 3 final battle is still peak.

[@tylersaez4095]

They said it's not Eddie. Sorry.

[@d.t.sdimensionstheaterstud4410]

New gutter space? You know what that means. Imma be rewatching it all day to ensure we get another episode

[@RosePinkInk]

You’re a fucking hero for this

[@d.t.sdimensionstheaterstud4410]

I guess I didn't do a good job

[@iKillerZombie]

I hope we get to see the renegade Spider-Man meme back for this

[@everythingalldwight4939]

Not Eddie and the concept art had Venom with the grippers out. I mean I don’t really care, because Insomniac hasn’t failed us yet so I’m sure whatever they do I’ll at least tolerate.

[@HenryLouis21]

I'm so glad you are sharing the same sentiment I have for the Transformers One movie casting, like, the title, and Bumblebee being in this movie aside, why did they feel like they had to rely on the big names of Chris Hemsworth and Scarlett Johansson for these characters? I shared these sentiments on Reddit and I got a lot of hate for that and a lot of people straw-manning my points. A lot of people will claim that celebrity names sell but they hardly do. A lot of animated projects with a voice cast of celebrities usually bomb at the box office. It really shows that they have no faith in this movie if they are really relying on big celebrities and their name recognition.

[@Albert_EGGsker]

They better not put Paul into the game

[@maxjumix2951]

Dude, I clicked on the video to listen you talk about Venom

[@Benzodrewd]

One thing is for certain, If Black Suit Peter runs into Screwball, god willing, she will not leave that city alive.

[@Phantom9252]

I like Eddie as Venom, but I think these days with the movies and King In Black he's too well known as a hero now. I want a scary Venom for Insomniac's SM2, and scary Venom is best when he has some deep personal grudge with Peter and intimate knowledge of Peter's flaws and fears and I don't see that happening with an introduced Eddie. Villain Venom works best as a scorned brother to Peter and they've already set Harry up as having the "Peter's surrogate brother" role. Not only that but Lowenthal has said they did a lot of research into addiction for the game and well, Harry's most famous story is about him being addicted. As an avid defender of the Spencer Run (up to issue 60 at least) the title for the next video has me... hesitant. I certainly agree that it can't be redeemed under current creative control though. They've shown time and again that in their opinion they're doing nothing wrong and if you are dissatisfied with the book it's your problem.

[@igg7865]

you was basically spot on lol

[@SuperTunnelBoy]

Damn Xavier you're spoiling us with all this great content

[@nikhilkapoor428]

I don't really know what Insomniac has planned for the story, I just hope that they tell the best story they're able to tell and for that feeling to be seen in the final product. But also if I press square on the street and Spider-Man doesn't do the SM3 dance I'm deleting it from my PS5.

[@Mr.Maguro]

10:43 - 12:02 This. Oh my god, Film and TF Twitter drove me insane with so many people pretending these movies were something other than what we've always said about them.

[@jackthecommenter2768]

I almost forgot I was watching a video about venom because my god the topic went from venom to over criticizing the bay verse movies 💀💀

[@themango522]

I promise to whatever greater power you worship I will watch gutter space until either of us die

[@EternalDb]

I haven’t been on the channel for a while glad to see a new video pop up on my feed 🎉

[@NadeemShekh-uy9zn]

This video aged really well

[@TheTurboaGamer3986]

In Insomniac's version of Miles he's Harlem Spidey

[@bisheshshakya9417]

14:57 is this your weird fantasy? 😂😂

[@PowerCore20]

Here's what we need for venom... To not suck

[@mojo1232]

Well, as someone coming back from the 2023 summer fest I am sorry to tell you that Venom has toes in this one.

[@backroomsdbm]

I love Xavier talking about Transformers because I don't know anything about it so it's cool to learn about it

[@ClicheOriginals]

Great video as always brotha

[@TheRToky]

i love this format

[@anderurteaga3707]

The only thing that bugs me of Insomniac Spider-Man is the chronology compared to the original material, like 8 years after being Spider-Man Peter encounters Doc Ock for the first time, and there are events like Martin Li adopting the Mister Negative persona or Miles becoming a hero, all before the Green Goblin, Venom and Kraven even appear in Peter's life.

[@_LionDragon719]

I actually like the idea of Peter not having his complete rogues gallery yet. It gives him and the villain time to grow. Venom, Green Goblin, and Doc Ock are considered to be his top 3 villains. For Otto, Peter knew him and worked with him for so many years that once he became a villain it hurt Peter to see someone he looked up to fall. For Green Goblin, imagine how much it would hurt Peter to see his best friend’s father, someone he also grew up with and knew for a long time become a dark villain. I love that Insomniac is giving the top 3 Spider-Man villains their own stories. It gives his character time to grow and develop into a true hero. I’d rather see these 3 villains have their own stories instead of being Spidey’s villain of the week

[@LaManchalandsDonQuixote]

​@@_LionDragon719 agree with you

[@stranglestrong]

A venom game with choices of different venom variants would be a must and needs to happen after spider man 2. Agent venom would be so badass.

[@ph-1012]

I love other thing also call poison (reference to 6:22) but it doesn't make sense as a symbiote alternate costume since turning into a poison creates a hard outer shell that essentially removes the symbiotes more liquid-like abilities (other then the spider logo) would make more sense as an alternate base costume.

[@sunsetvibe1063]

Small thing, but I like it when the symbiote suit produces black webbing made out of its own skin rather than it just making the same kinds of white webs. I just think it distinguishes it from the normal suit & I want more adaptations to make the symbiote webbing black.

[@thegreatgoobert5847]

While I agree it looks cooler, the white webbing is way easier to see when it's dark. and considering how this is a videogame, visual clarity trumps cool visuals. Imagine how annoying it would be to not know how webbed an enemy is, just because the level takes place in like a tunnel or something.

[@ArcTrooper269]

🤡

[@SharpestSniper99]

Me to Insomniac post Venom announcement: “YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE! IT WAS SAID YOU WERE TO DESTROY THE SITH, NOT JOIN THEM!”

[@doggo9355]

Spiderman channel always droppin a banger

[@InReserveProductions]

Brooklyn is confirmed to be part of the map for Spider-Man 2. Also isn't it weird how this game seems to be following the same rough plot as the Spider-Man 3 game? Like I'm glad someone else has mentioned it for once.

[@killstationvr]

This dude throws shade at the ultimate spider man show so much lol

[@TheAwesomeAlan]

Brooklyn's been confirmed in a recent interview! Can't wait to explore there and Queens.

[@donovanstewart698]

The difference between casting Alan Tudyk as Optimus Prime compared to Chris Hemsworth can be described as “that’s an interesting casting choice!” Versus “that’s an…interesting casting choice.”

[@Eeshank2]

Raimi black suit has been confirmed

[@matoi3582]

Keep up the great content Xavier!

[@wobblewokgaming655]

Insomniac is an appropriate title, cause *they're gonna be keeping me up at night.*

[@MajorPineapple]

aight the fact he used the hangglider song from pilotwings 64 is just *chefs kiss*

[@jingleballs9935]

Finally you’re talking bout this game again

[@Eddie-mo2wu]

Here post gamefest- hate to break it you, but Venom’s got toes. Just as funky as every other time it’s been done.