How STEALTH Works in 3.10, part 2 - Star Citizen Tutorial

In this video we correct, provide additional detail, and answer questions regarding our previous video on stealth mechanics: • How STEALTH works in 3...
PhotonPulse's scanning data spreadsheet: docs.google.co...
This video is part of the 3.10 quick start playlist series: • How STEALTH works in 3...
All footage recorded in Star Citizen alpha 3.10. Credit Hasgaha for thumbnail art.
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[@bbull71]

Always watch LIS videos. Otherwise you lose. Thank you so much for the ping formula. Now I can be sneki boi

[@LegacyFleet]

Thank you for the inquiry!

[@WRL-J0rgeN]

At the end still all testing. Example of a problem. We should not be detected when hidding behind rocks or inside holes. Currently system ignoring all that. And components with base line number when offline. Thats another stupid thing. Finaly see someone making a video about . Being flying a eclipse without guns or Shields for months

[@Ultrajamz]

Hoping some of these 3.10 vids are updated for 3.12 or 3.13

[@erebus7205]

Has CIG ever discussed wether planet environments will affect stealth signatures? BTW great video!

[@LegacyFleet]

Can't remember if they've discussed it specifically, but it seems like a logical step based on what they've done so far.

[@Siknett-515]

Do the coolers affect IR emissions? I know changing them does nothing on performance or EM, but nobody says anything about IR 🤔

[@leevah]

Not sure if that's always the case, but we've seen that Suppress IR is lowering your IR signature on your MFDs, but other ships targeting the suppressed ship were viewing different IR values (like it's not suppressed). It may be a visual bug where it activates it for you but doesn't really do what it should do.

[@RenegadeSquadron]

Excellent video!

[@Camural]

Fantastic video Jub!

[@ColbyWanShinobi]

This is the quality content I NEED in my life. Thank you!

[@Verthias]

I had a lot of fun testing this out back in 3.9, I used an Eclipse without guns and with upgraded components though I disabled my shields to minimize EM. While not moving my EM was I believe like 299 so I would barely register to enemy NPCs. The only bounties I had trouble with were Sabres because I would have to get in closer to target lock on them, and they could catch me a lot faster than I could get a missile lock and I was done. These formulas are great!

[@coreyrobinson9010]

Loving the videos. Keep it up

[@Chris-yu9xe]

I am not a fan of the new stealth model. The stealth fighters (Ghost and Sabre) seem like they are too easily detected. Most fights are going to happen within 5km. But once they are within range, the military ships can easily pop them. The shields don't hold up to combat for very long and if the stealth ship cant drop off the radar fast enough, it's game over.

[@Нариман-ч5и]

Can you please add subtitles to this and previous video? This it interesting info, but I'm not native english speaker and don't understand some moments. Subtitles (with Google translate) will be helpful

[@vazaruspaytonas7017]

Where do you get this style of music? I am looking for a playlist with the background music to play while gaming.

[@fourfoxgaming]

Great language 👍. I was able to absorb it all in one pass.

[@Ultrajamz]

You mean 1x scan? Left click is ping? Or do i have it backwards

[@hakonhanesand3458]

Wow, okay. So they need to make pinging a server side thing then. Something like hey server please load the ships I _should_ be able to see in my ping area.

[@samdoehart1333]

Any word on whether Suppress IR has been fixed since this video was released?

[@Crankwank]

The 3.10 stealth work is making me moist. Sneaky ships are now GO.

[@CollyDoo]

*ECLIPSE HAS ENTERED THE CHAT*😎

[@Crankwank]

@@CollyDoo I've actually been flying a stealthed out Sabre for a bit and that thing is silly.

[@CollyDoo]

I got a Sabre Comet, love that ship. I have 2 different loadouts for it. One for Stealth and One for Combat. Stealth, once they get the finder details worked out will definitely be an advantage. 💯👍

[@NickBara1009]

buenas la verdad re lindo video me encanto deseo el proximo video me despido les mando kisses muchas gracias

[@shadowvipers8182]

Very useful video! Sending much thanks from the Shadow Vipers (Star Citizen Organization)

[@TosiKuvesi]

Hmm... What's the effect of multiple radars on board? Also, from experience on my Gemini, I can detect small and medium fighters at like 5-10km range, usually NPC but think there might've been some players as well. However, small and medium fighters only have these values at around 2 000 or so, right? So I shouldn't be detecting them before they're at ~1.5km by that equation. Unless... Gemini has 4 radars. 4x0.75 = 3, 3x2 000 = 6km so... radars are just linear?

[@LegacyFleet]

The multiple radars don't matter. In each crew station you can only use one radar at a time. We believe each turret is given its own radar.

[@nickkropat8857]

I love these videos. Having some actual info to work from is so helpful. Thank you for spending all the time to do, and share this research

[@michaelrunningdeer8778]

Stealth mechanics dont make a lot of sense to me because i feel like every1 would run stealth loadouts on stealth ships with laser cannons and be able to shoot down most enemies at around 3500 range and they cant even target them until they are within 1900 or 2900 range so why is this not happening? I went on erkul and used your formula to do a complete stealth build with fixed S3 Quarreler that are not over clocked and the EM 3903x.5 = 1954 or x.75=2931 so 1st shot with 1296 + 2 size 4 pathfinders IV 11757 = 13,053 on alpha strike i dont even think a arrow can survive that even if he does you have at least 1 more shot before he can even see you to close the distance. Am i missing something would love to see this in action i cant play SC right now because im waiting on new joysticks and mounts to arrive so please indulge me a little and explain why this is not the case.

[@milesmoore8718]

What Erkul fails to really shed light on Stealth is the IR portion of stealth. As the video states the detection range is based off the highest of your ER or your IR. IR is much harder to lower compared to EM. Most Ships tend to have a minimum IR of 5000. As well as the fact that your EM and sometimes IR jump up when your firing weapons/ So everytime you shoot your EM jumps up making it easier to detect you.

[@chrisa1160]

Another impressive breakdown... thanks!

[@thesamon71]

Nice work, i'm just curious what's the music in this video?

[@williamlewis1805]

You guys are amazing thanks.

[@dirge8032]

I can see how the current Stealth mechanics are greate for an alpha strike ship like the eclipse but id love to see a video showing how to effectivly use it during a dog fight in a sabre or ghost. can we constantly drop in and out of radar? how easy is it to use stealth to win fights against single or multiple targets? can we drop our target lock so they loose theres? im worried the sabre will get a great first strike in the first 5 secs of a battle but then lose all of its advantages once the ship has you targets with your low shields and armor HP.

[@LegacyFleet]

From what we can tell, stealth is largely used more strategically rather than on the tactical level. What this means is, that, with the exception of the Eclipse, it's less about direct combat application and more about the bigger picture positioning of forces, etc. Hard concept to explain. Think less MMO rogue, more RL stealth fighter.

[@trovack5130]

Great work. Thanks for all the testing!

[@RicoZaid_]

this still the same?

[@LaPiraguaAsesina]

hi friend, i think you forgt to add this video to your great HOW TO FIGHT list ... thanks very mucho for this incredible work !

[@LegacyFleet]

Added it. Thank you!!!

[@owd200]

Great info, thanks for teasing all this out for us.

[@uroslikar]

useful info, thank you

[@dalechristopher3917]

Awesommmmmeeee

[@CatsAkimb0]

Love this!

[@shakkawan]

Nice done !

[@AttiraKell]

Very interesting run down!

[@0nlyRenzo]

Oh, strange, I would have thought minimal detection range was set up by CS value, not a minimal IR value

[@chrisladouceur4093]

Great follow-up. Glad you did this.

[@lilbu223]

cig nailed the depth of stealth mechanics. cant wait to see what they do next

[@Julia-mx3ki]

One question that still lingers in me: Does the "stealthyness" influence the detection from NPC-law-enforcement? Are we less likely to get scanned down for illegal cargo if we are stealthyer?

[@LegacyFleet]

Unsure, but I really doubt it. I think that's just an RNG.

[@SidorovichJr]

doors not responding....7 years :)

[@JamaRamaVarush]

This is my first time be this early to anything!

[@LegacyFleet]

Hooray!!! Congratulations

[@TheFewzz]

If i land and turn off all power will i be more hidden?

[@LegacyFleet]

Yes.

[@horstmeier512]

So its e.g. (Em + IR) x 0,75 = detection range?

[@1BadZ]

I did notice that I could no longer see bigger ships from 40k away. Your note of a change in game client does explain the change. I've spotted a npc hammerhead from 18k away in 3.9, but that may have been an anomaly.