How Streaming f**ked everything!

[@railerswim]

My philosophy still stands. Hollywood almost always learns the wrong lesson from success and never ever learns anything from their failures.

[@drgordo112]

Same goes in military history! lol

[@pdzombie1906]

Sh*t, dude!! Hollywood can't even learn from their own movies!! Remember A beautiful mind with John Nash explaining why a certain economic theory is wrong? Men all go for the most beautiful girl in the room and they end up going home alone. Every studio tried to be Netflix, and now they're almost broke.

[@rrmackay]

I think that is because they egos are so huge they can't deal with being wrong.

[@nebwachamp]

The ones in charge know what they ate doing. They have never been broke before. They dont understand that Hollywood can, will and is falling. Diddy is just the first. Money is drying up fast. These ppl have never been broke before. It's gonna be awesome to watch Hollywood devour itself from the top down.

[@davidford3115]

@@rrmackay Indeed. Tinseltown is where narcissists come together.

[@derrickpatten7252]

Most modern-day content is trash, the audience is content watching the classics.

[@Lonovavir]

My local DVD/Blue Ray/Video game can't keep the pre-2010 stuff in stock. Post 2015 stuff just sits on the shelves collecting dust.

[@Known-unknowns]

Agreed. Today’s ‘writers’ write mass media junk anyway. They wont be missed.

[@The_Ballo]

Which streaming service offers reruns of Night Stand with Dick Dietrick?

[@feezee82]

There are still some good show being made. Like Succession on HBO. Another one I like is Only Murders in the Building on Disney. But I do agree,that I feel there is much less quality stuff now compared to 20 years ago, for example.

[@df6597]

@@feezee82 Succession really fell off on the last season.

[@bhushanharripersad5716]

They wanted a reason to do away with physical media so that they could control and charge for repeat viewing of their products.

[@OneofInfinity.]

Those who want to see, see it for what it is, "u will ow...."

[@ConceptJunkie]

Not to mention censorship...

[@battra92]

This frustrates me with the niche stuff like even the Daily Wire clowns and the like. Let me buy your shows on disc. Heck, I'd probably spend more money that way.

[@TonyMontanaDS]

@@battra92 But how many times are you going to buy them? They keep changing formats. VHS, Laser Disk, DVD, HD-DVD, Blu-Ray, 4K Blu-Ray. What's next? 8k Blu-Ray?

[@theevermind]

​@@TonyMontanaDS Format wars are so passe. Honestly, there's no reason not to just put content on un-erasable USB thumb drives. A player is just anything that can read & process the stored content. I'd gladly buy movies on thumb drives. Cases for them could easily be 4" x 3" x 1"--just think how much shelf space you'd save and still have neat cover art & packaging.

[@Thx1138sober]

Dear Hollywood, I have seen the future, and you're not in it.

[@tagir9123]

Did you tell them you'll be back?

[@Sailorsega]

@@tagir9123 Why would he be back? I won't be.

[@shawnregina9110]

AI will empower smaller, passionate and more talented creators. They’ve tied their own hands. Hollywood may not use AI but we will.

[@tagir9123]

@Sailorsega You did not get the reference, Cap

[@Sailorsega]

@@tagir9123 Nor do I get this one (if this is a reference).

[@missread7781]

UK Pensioner here. Cancelled my TV Licence (£179 per year).Cancelled all streaming services. Just today bought dvd boxed set complete Breaking Bad and also dvd boxed set of Lord of Rings Trilogy both for for £1 at a charity shop They are mine, they cannot be edited, they cannot be taken off a streaming service. Got better things to spend money on rather than multi services to see favourite shows.

[@aspensulphate]

You can bet "they" are busy thinking up ways to prevent us from buying content for our own use. It must gall them to no end to know that purchasers of physical media can watch and watch, and they get... _nothing!_ If they could figure out a way to charge us for the air we breathe, they would do it in a heartbeat.

[@macrosense]

When you get bored with them you can just trade them for another dvd set

[@Kitz419]

Dang. I’m American, a sub to Direct TV is closer to $175 a month….

[@daxtonbrown]

My retired brother and I just watch DVDs. The way to go is foreign TV. Try Schiavone and Gomorra from Italy. Sherlock from Japan.

[@NoFeckingNamesLeft]

I have some blu rays but all optical media has a limited lifespan. It always falls back to the high seas being the only reliable method.

[@reb3102]

Around 1990 I worked at Tower Video. It was such a wonderful time with an amazing number of low and medium budget movies coming from so many different production companies. Everyone was making horror, scifi, fantasy films. Every week there was new content. Even if they missed the mark, there was real love put into those productions. Now we just have content engines pumping out heartless junk. No wonder people are spending more time on KZbin.

[@quin2203]

Night Court was phenomenal. We didn't know how good we had it.

[@michaeldavis3819]

I have the full series on DVD.😂

[@notsure1135]

John Larrouquette show was an underrated banger as well.

[@DMDvideo10]

You could say that about dozens' of old sitcom shows. MASH, Cheers, so many others. they weren't worried about hurting feelings, just making us laugh.

[@draegore]

Hollywood seems to forget they need us.

[@shirleydanby4123]

At this point I'm so apathetic towards Hollywood and main stream media. I just can't wait till it all decentralises and frankly eats itself. Their self righteous smugness is just so infuriating to watch anymore.

[@JonWhitfield5150]

they've managed to turn rabid fans into mortal enemies of their content

[@markmunroe-hz8rf]

I agree. I'm more into KZbin, indie comics, manga, audio dramas and classic novels now.

[@WPQ190D]

@@JonWhitfield5150 Absolutely.

[@UsserError]

They are streamingSatans Entertainment straight into our homes. They want to damage our children and destroy our families.

[@grandfaultimperceptor]

Exactly my sentiments as well. Perfectly stated.

[@AshleyWincer]

This is why I buy 2nd hand DVDs of movies and TV shows more than 10 years old..

[@TheeGlocktopus]

You can CLEAN UP at pawn shops these days. Dollar movies and entire series.

[@evilchaperone]

Good move.

[@douglasarthur2673]

Yep. It's imperative to get hard copies as increasing censorship, in the name of ESG/DIE, means they will become unavailable.

[@rsmith4339]

Pray your DvD player never breaks , i'm having trouble finding a new one .

[@dana7340]

@@rsmith4339they have them on Amazon.

[@livefree6455]

In my household we're watching a lot less TV. Checking today's primetime programs there are 3 failed Chichago shows, game shows, and several talent shows. This is going to be the golden age for books.

[@markmunroe-hz8rf]

Have you tried good audio dramas?

[@MarklovesAngels]

Books are great - back into it.

[@theevermind]

I honestly have no idea what's on TV. We haven't watched anything in forever. And the best part is I don't miss it. We haven't had a conversation at work about the latest show since covid. If they stopped making broadcast TV, I doubt we'd find out until months later. But I do recommend the streaming service Wondrium. I'd give up all of TV and replace it with just that and youtube.

[@shirleydanby4123]

Oh please let this be so 🙏🤞

[@markmunroe-hz8rf]

@@MarklovesAngels the classics are the best.

[@Nicksonian]

Gym memberships work on the same principle. Build it and hope they do NOT come.

[@CallMeChato]

YEP

[@swanvictor887]

...but Gym's have a fall-back: they are very useful for money-laundering!!

[@markbajek2541]

yeah except for the van lifers constantly using the showers.

[@RabbiSteve]

@@swanvictor887and towel laundering

[@tagir9123]

Hope they do NOT come.... Well, with what they're shitting out, we so won't

[@thenatureboy1837]

I'm enjoying their decline while I watch the old stuff.

[@Citizen_J]

Streaming became a worse version of cable. Luckily, I sail the seven seas.

[@gallendugall8913]

Reminds me of all the brick-and-mortar stores that ignored online shopping until the last second and then quickly pushed badly made online stores, with worse deals and lower selection than their actual physical stores, into a glutted market.

[@davidford3115]

Indeed. Case in point is Barnes and Nobles/B.Dalton contrasted with Waldenbooks/Borders. One is still around while the other is extinct.

[@markbajek2541]

there's a big difference between running a web selling (or reselling) service out of your garage while living in mom's basement with almost zero overhead and drop shipping most everything than having to build and maintain brick and mortar locations then having "customers" (camera shops are famous for this, so are bike shops and book stores) walk into your brick and mortar store, touch and feel the product on display that you provided the space for and then they hunt it down online for a lower price...wasting your time and effort...building out display space. The BM stores have to pay for employees, property taxes, or lease payments,...most online shops...skirt most of those costs..so even if they had an online presence from the beginning they have the additional costs of brick and mortar which get cannabalized by the on line "customers".

[@ConceptJunkie]

...and then all lost to Amazon.

[@BillPeschel]

This was especially egregious with Sears. Their original business model (selling through the mail) was Amazon 0.1

[@loriloristuff]

SEARS. Sears was already fading into the sunset when it offed itself. And Wards!!! I was called in as a tech to help pull over Wards to GEFA. It was not a pretty sight.

[@martinh8784]

There is only ONE reason I switched to streaming: NO advertisements. Now, Prime annoys me whenever I visit to cough up €2.99/month for "no advertisements." Keep your stuff; I am neither paying nor watching advertisements. The advertisements are all "boss woman humiliates men," so it is a win/win!

[@hehhehheh4588]

I cancelled Prime for this very reason.

[@tagir9123]

IKR, they also STILL have the dumbass trope of " man can't remember ______ date" and they're treating gays like it's the seventies

[@foxlake6750]

Nothing but dumb guy ads…….can’t show dumb women

[@matturner6890]

they're practically begging us to sail the high seas. No problem here, been sailing em since '06. I used to love Netflix when it actually had almost anything you could search. Now it NEVER EVER has what you search for, ESPECIALLY when you know you've seen it listed before. So aggravating.

[@danielh6015]

My son is an assistant editor and dealing with the same problem of their not being enough shows to work on . He is lucky he has a job but the company he works for just laid off over 100 employees . The company is cost cutting on reality shows that are probably the cheapest in the industry

[@CallMeChato]

Wow, give my best to your son.

[@3dartstudio007]

We got cable in 1982. One channel. HBO. You only paid for the channels you want. Since you PAY to have the channel, there was no commercials on it. Fast forward to now... Every pay media channel is a wasteland of commercials. Great job Hollywood!

[@StreetPreacherr]

Funny thing is that I think Cable was originally created to provide FREE OVER THE AIR broadcast television to paying customers in the suburbs, who were out of range from receiving the free signals with an antenna... So cable users were PAYING to watch commercials that only existed because the broadcasts were 'Free To Air'! Then of course the cable companies realized people were accustomed to seeing commercials, so they just started also selling AD time for 'Cable Exclusive' channels as well. See any pattern here? lol

[@brinker50]

Cable TV was worse, you pay a lot for it, and every channel still has advertising

[@SamSchott1]

Physical media collectors are watching quality shows and movies while Hollywood burns.

[@ericsred5440]

Agreed. I watch the best movies ever made on a weekly basis. And I would much rather rewatch a good movie I have seen before than a new, bad movie anytime.

[@RonnieStanley-tc6vi]

Agreed. I have a huge collection. My closest friends treat me like a damn Blockbuster Video!

[@cobbler88]

I don't care enough to sink a small fortune into expanding what had roughly become about a modest 200-DVD collection. I can "own" them out there in the ether without the clutter, and if they want to change "French Connection," I can always get it in hard copy THEN. I learned by the time I was out of college that no one's actually impressed at me breaking out reams of CD albums or showing them a wall of Blu-Rays.

[@SamSchott1]

@@cobbler88 I can see where you’re coming from. Problem is, streamers censor without notice. And it gets worse and more pervasive as time goes on.

[@SamSchott1]

@@RonnieStanley-tc6vi Handy when Wi-Fi falters, too.

[@brentharrington9235]

too much of anything dilutes its value. Media inflation.

[@RyanConway602]

Ironically, it should be popped.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

The ancient law of supply and demand.

[@macmcleod1188]

There is such a huge glut of entertainment these days that I can't keep up with it. I fall further behind every single week. And that was before I started watching old westerns and War movies from the 1940s and 50s. Now with Donna reed, Have Gun Will Travel movies like away all boats, and the texan, I'm falling even further behind on Modern entertainment. On top of that modern entertainment has a lot of man bashing in it and as soon as I see man bashing, I with that series. And on top of that it has a lot of entertainment that just isn't targeted at men. I'm not interested in female romance stories or things like that, though there was a good transsexual detective show on Netflix. But 98% of the material just leaves me cold. Finally they seem to want $20 a month per station these days and even Apple TV recently nearly doubled their fee, leading me to cancel them.

[@JB-ti7bl]

That would be deflation. Too much product chasing the same money.

[@007Julie]

You’re absolutely right! Disney has done a master work at diluting its brands.

[@Paul_1971]

Thank goodness for back catalogue physical media - not interested in anything hollywood churns out these days

[@SomeOldGuyYellingattheSky]

Always interesting.. personally I considered the introduction of of so called reality TV shows in the 2000s to be the nail in the coffin of network TV.

[@koobs4549]

Agree 100% that’s when they learned “reality” tv was much cheaper to produce than scripted shows. MTV became a streaming service once they started to fill their channel with Ridiculousness episodes, before Netflix showed up

[@SomeOldGuyYellingattheSky]

Exactly

[@davidford3115]

And it became a negative feedback loop. The cheaper lowbrow meant fewer longer-term viewers, which meant lower revenues, which meant cheaper shows.

[@ConceptJunkie]

It was _a_ nail. But there was still a lot of good network TV through the mid 2010s or so.

[@battra92]

That was the moment I stopped caring.

[@thechuckjosechannel.2702]

There's too many streaming services these days, and some of them are jacking up prices and usually the Content usually sucks.

[@Puzzoozoo]

The only streaming services that seem to keep going is pron.

[@thechuckjosechannel.2702]

@@Puzzoozoo that and Hentai.

[@michaelreich4827]

When people were complaining about cable/internet prices and were switching to streaming a decade ago, I knew it would get to a point when they had so many services, it would cost more than the cable/internet they fled from.

[@GH-ub7qz]

still have Internet bill...so the cable wasn't cut, just what poop flowed through it

[@aspensulphate]

@@GH-ub7qz With the internet, at lease you have some choice about what poop flows in.

[@Brekfastmachine]

Except a lot of people like myself just don't pay for any streaming services. Still have the internet bill though.

[@NINacide]

"I like tv. whenever it's on, I go into the next room and read a book" -Groucho Marx

[@Pancito49]

The only good TV program is Golf ⛳️. It’s so low keyed it helps to relax me and send me on my naps.

[@WYFT42]

Great video!, Paul. I wholeheartedly agree with you. The one thing I would add is that We need to get rid of the binge model. It's destroying hype for great shows that come out today, where people talk about new shows for months at a time. Now they're done talking about them in a couple of weeks.

[@markmunroe-hz8rf]

We also need to bring back more episodes in shows instead of just eight or ten episode seasons and have to wait a whole year for a new season.

[@DarkPhoenixSaga]

​@markmunroe-hz8rf Yes, I totally agree. I miss the 22 episodes season. It pisses me off when seasons nowadays are less than half the episodes of older shows. It's like they're getting lazy with the writing.

[@WYFT42]

@@markmunroe-hz8rf 100% agree with that

[@CallMeChato]

Yep

[@davidford3115]

Indeed. The classic shows each episode could be stand-alone. If you missed one, you were not locked out of the loop. In the 80s, they started adding what were termed "C-plots" and "D-plots". They were the background story that would run the entire series but were not critical to the "A and B plots" of the episode.

[@Hammerhead547]

The same can be said of how streaming has completely killed the music industry. From the dishonest way, "album listens" are counted towards determining if an album is a "hit" worthy of being in the billboard top 40 to the disgusting way music streaming companies simply refuse to pay royalties there's nothing good about how it all operates.

[@markmunroe-hz8rf]

Not to mention modern music suck.

[@Hammerhead547]

@@markmunroe-hz8rf We can blame the "15 second shuffle" (how fans of certain "artists" cheat the stream counting system) for so many truly horrid "hits" over the last decade.

[@theevermind]

My local library has a mustic streaming service called Freegalmusic. It doesn't have everything, but it's not bad. I get 3 free downloads a week, and for everything else, there's youtube.

[@AtomicVertigo_Comics]

@@Hammerhead547what?? that makes sense somehow....

[@poiuyt975]

My cousin, who is ten years younger than me, considers himself old-school, because he has mp3s on his smart phone, while most people use on-line services. When I heard that I just shook my head and hugged my vinyl tighter (but still carefully) ;-)

[@szeltovivarsydroxan9944]

Chato, you are a weird treasure in these times of uniform mediocrity.

[@AL-ws5yi]

When they first announced that they were going to create more streaming services, I already saw that there will be problems. There’s only so much pie to go around.

[@danielh6015]

Well I don’t understand the model. You are disney and you spend 50-100 on a movie and then you put it on Disney plus. How exactly do you make money on it . I realize the movie is there is keep the subscribers happy and keep paying their 7 dollars per month . But on most cases, if the movie wasn’t made you wouldn’t lose enough subscribers that total over the cost of the movie and you are not going to get enough new subscribers because of the new movie . They are better off selling the movie to Netflix because they know exactly how much they will make from it

[@collegeman1988]

You’re right. Those networks and other entertainment companies came to the table too late to have their own streaming service do them any good.

[@c0d3warrior]

I understand that in an emerging market, you want to get in and hope you survive the initial fight for market share. Now the market needs to stabilize and those who aren't on top need to take the L and stop wasting money on their failed product. The only problem: They are too stubborn to admit their product failed right now. (And even then there are still all the issues discussed in this video...)

[@NTJedi]

A streaming service would become immensely popular for the first one to stay away from WOKE agendas and politics.

[@ConceptJunkie]

I watch a lot of old stuff on DVD, but I don't watch any current shows. Instead I watch great content on KZbin _complaining_ about current shows like Chato, OverlordDVD, Nerdrotic, etc. And a lot of other stuff like music theory, science, math, etc. KZbin is the thing I watch the most of, aside from the shows we collect on _physical media_.

[@ninjaswordtothehead]

At this point, doing the opposite of what the studio execs want to do is pretty much guaranteed success. Looking at the past few years, its fair to say that Hollywood has zero clue why audiences like what they do.

[@aspensulphate]

It's even worse than that. They don't _care_ what audiences like. They will make content that affirms their political agenda.

[@ran_red]

I know plenty of people have said this but I think it's funny that streaming became popular as an alternative to cable, a service where you had to sign up for a bunch of shows you were never going to watch and you had to watch ads, only to become fragmented, making you subscribe to several shows you are never going to watch and forcing you to watch ads.

[@matthewgreiner2766]

You got me to thinking about my retail marketing classes in college. I'm a little vague because that was 45 years ago but here I go. The theory goes something like this, everything is like a circle and comes back. The two examples I can remember the best was fast food (mostly Mcdonalds) and Grocery stores. Mcdonalds started with walking up getting your food and eating in the car. Then they added dining in, and then drive thru so back to eating in the car. For groceries you had seperate store for groceries, meat , fish, etc. Then the super stores came where you could by everything in one place, but pre-packaged. Then they added separate areas. Butchers, Fish, Deli. and now those area have prepacked products in front of them. Essentially this is happening with TV. You had 3 or 4 seperate channels, if you were lucky. Then cable, 13 to 20, we thought that was incredible, though we still mostly watched the big 3. Then came the packages where you could have 50, 60, 100, or more channels most of which were never watched. Now we are going back to smaller lineups picked by us. This works at all levels of retail. I'm sure there are many examples.

[@terrafound]

How does this man not have at least 1M subscribers!?!?!? I fear it's because his videos aren't crammed with annoying reminders to like and subscribe. Well I will share this video on social platforms to do my part.

[@CallMeChato]

Thanks. I don't put the reminders in because I don't like hearing the reminders. :-)

[@carlosleyva-calistenia6400]

I think it's because he is an adult and doesn't scream at the camera all the time or throw temper tantrums. Most modern people can't identify themselves with someone who isn't childish.

[@BlackMaleSpirituality]

You know what is more annoying? I have watched content creators stop live streams because not enough people have liked the stream.

[@FailsafeZero]

If only writers had a collective representative body that could advocate for things that would benefit the entire industry.

[@davidford3115]

They do. They have simply used it to crush outsiders who are not part of the clique.

[@buckiemohawk3643]

Networks should have sold their shows to Netflix and Amazon.

[@davidford3115]

Yup. That is called "syndication". The big three used to do that.

[@ConceptJunkie]

I used to watch tons of shows on Netflix: Cheers, Frasier, Community, The Office, Parks and Rec, MASH, the _good_ Star Trek shows. They used to have a lot of great British stuff as well, including Doctor Who (which used to be a great show!), but that stuff is also gone. When each show left Netflix, I bought it on DVD. Problem solved.

[@BitingComics]

@@ConceptJunkie I find a lot of good Korean/Japanese/Chinese/Indian shows on Netflix. I think their efforts on getting non-US content has really been helpful to them especially during the hollywood strike.

[@stbaz]

But without any competition, Netflix and Amazon would have the power to set prices both on what the networks get paid and the cost consumers pay for the service. Basically, nothing is free and it’s just a matter of reconfiguring who gets what piece of the total pie.

[@davidford3115]

@@stbaz That sounds like zero sum thinking, which is NEVER true. As far as the networks, they USED to operate on broadcast just fine. If people were turning off the TV, it is because what was being offered was not competitive. People don't actually need a streaming service; it is simply a connivence.

[@Dracounguis]

I miss just owning 2 VCRs to record the shows I wanted to watch.

[@SeanWickett]

A cogent perspective on the history of enshittification of TV culture.

[@tagir9123]

That, sir, is going straight into Thesaurus

[@SeanWickett]

@@tagir9123 "Enshittification'? Thanks to Corey Doctorow for that little nugget.

[@bingbruce4865]

Another brilliant analysis of the current situation in Hollywood. Add to this the full throttle press for DEI and you have the perfect recipe for failure. The cost of jobs and business is going to be staggering.

[@McMillanScottish]

According to Hollywood, the customer is always wrong. They always know what we want, except that they don't.

[@iomis2001]

I cancelled Netflix when I realized I hardly used it.

[@Madzguy007]

Mine is being cancelled this month.. Netflix just announced they are discontinuing the basic plan in Canada.. I could choose to go with the plan with ads or pay more.. I choose to cancel... Wanted to cancel a long time ago but sharing the plan with other family.. They told me they don't watch much either

[@wesmcinerny4524]

They were too overconfident with streaming, believing it to be the sole future of entertainment.

[@whollymindless]

And thought that they should each have their own "service" so it is impossible to find which platform is currently hosting which series.

[@wesmcinerny4524]

@@whollymindless That's why we must buy physical copies.

[@NewSquallor]

@@wesmcinerny4524 amongst other reasons

[@AlucardNoir]

And they aren't wrong about it. The same way cable and satellite replaced aerial antennas so to has the video on demand of streaming replaced the scheduled programming of cable TV. The problem isn't streaming, is execs wanting to have their cake and eat it too. If everybody has a streaming service people are going to be picky. But no, cable isn't coming back.

[@AlucardNoir]

@@wesmcinerny4524 You can only buy what the IP holder is willing to sell. If they're not willing to sell had copies of their content you don't get to buy it.

One of the main reasons 'why we can't have good things' is that the companies can't collaborate on anything. They all hope they can dominate the market and squeeze the hell out of their 'customers'.

[@martindenham2207]

As with most problems in life, it's the people responsible for creating them that are the problem. If they were good at their job the problem probably wouldn't exist, and if they were humble, they would step aside to allow a more competent person take over. Knowing the industry as I do, competent people are rare & useless people will never step away from the status of working in film/TV. The industry will never improve because of the kinds of people who dominate within it. It's a high status club where entry is based on 'access', and access has nothing to do with talent.

[@Mikethemerciless11]

This is why I have a lot of physical media. I have all of Knight Rider on Blu-Ray, along with the A-Team, Dallas, and Dukes of Hazzard. You just reminded me of Night Court, so I just ordered that.

[@michaeldavis3819]

I have an entire wall of my basement filled to bursting with physical media. I'm about to buy a computer program to rip the DVDs and Blu-rays to an external hard drive and just store that physical media in boxes soon. And I'll keep hitting up Amazon and pawn shops and Goodwill for more physical media.

[@tyrannozilla]

I barely go to Netflix anymore after they discontinued their DVD division.

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

As far as Hollywood {California} is concerned, this cliche still applies: *_"Play silly games? Win silly prizes."_*

[@silverjohn6037]

I'd say part of the problem was the ad based broadcast tv model had gotten the networks into the mind set that they didn't really need high ratings to make a profitable show. So long as they could appeal to the high value advertising money they could focus on catering to the dual, income no kids urban professionals and they could be the "Tiffany network" instead of trying to appeal to the "McDonalds crowd". So popular shows like Gilligan's Island would get cancelled because they didn't fit the classier branding that networks were going for. The classic example of this would be Walker Texas Ranger and the X-Files. In pretty much every year they were both on the air Walker had the higher ratings but X-Files got the magazine covers because it appealed to the demographic that the reporters and editors belonged to and because it brought in higher revenue ad money. When Netflix, with it's no ads model, came along shows were no longer being subsidized so it was the raw appeal that made a show a success or failure. Hollywood couldn't make the pivot to the general market and has suffered as a result. With ad based streaming services being added it may be moving back to an audience they're more comfortable with. Whether that is for the better or the worse probably depends on whether you're the low class demographic or one of the "dinks";).

[@earlsmith7428]

Well thought out, Sir.

[@CallMeChato]

Hollywood always hated the shows Middle America loved: Little House, Walker, Hee Haw, Beverly Hillbillies.

[@melindahall5062]

Middle America must like old rubbish shows…there was a lot of crap on the air. Try watching an episode of “Petticoat Junction” and see if you can get through it.

[@ohnosmoarlulcatz]

Companies are also way overspending to license content because they want everything to be exclusive to deny their competitors from licensing those shows. The result is that even syndication prices have skyrocketed in the last decade since everyone is bidding for that one slot. Nowadays, they're bidding as much as $30k+ a year for an episode that might've been just $5k in the past. But at the same time, they only get that syndication check from that one group who won the rights instead of the multiple reruns across 5 or 6 networks of UPN, TNT, TBS, etc.

[@arioch2112]

You were not alone in saying such. Thank you for your insight, Paul. Truly invaluable for those of us wishing to learn.

[@markbajek2541]

I think retirees in AZ are pretty happy with OTA "antenna TV," "ME TV" reruns of Matlock and Murder she wrote , they don't need any cord for that and as for streaming they just visit their urologists a couple times a year or so..

[@80krauser]

ME TV is pretty great honestly. And Grit.

[@PatrickF.Fitzsimmons]

Not making good films and shows f'd everything. streaming would be a success still if they made what people wanted.

[@robertphillips1941]

In recent years, I happen to be watching mostly foreign productions (non-english speaking) so I am grateful streaming has provided that opportunity

[@vincentbrown4926]

To be fair (Letterkenny echo's aside) you can't make "Night Court" without Harry Anderson. He was the heart, Soul and Wit of the show. But, other than that I too have marveled in watching Network TV committing Seppuku all my life. From the canceling of Star Trek, the Hillbilly Massacre to embracing Reality TV , every move has been a slow disembowelment.

[@johnstuartkeller5244]

When you go for a stream of gold, but you get a stream of red ... see your physician.

[@Thandar324]

This is another in a growing list of videos that Hollywood should watch and heed. Sadly, instead, the inevitable will happen to them due to their own greed and hubris.

[@MrGreen-sq4cf]

Thank you for making the very salient point that we cut cable because of the cost and the crap it provided only to find ourselves left with streaming services that cost as much and have just as much crap too.

[@BoojayDeeth]

Hi Chato! Again you have succinctly put your finger right on the heart of the issue. It seems to be a universal pattern. Greed, incompetence and hubris leaving everyone worse off. Except for you, you just keep on being great!😁

[@CallMeChato]

Thank you.

[@pedroares6562]

Other issue besides the monetization was the quantity of programms offered increased but the quality of the shows went down the train after everyone started doing their streaming. It was as if all the QA that producers put in TV was ignored during the streaming wars.... so you have a ton of forgettable shows that didn't make money.

[@davidford3115]

To be fair, there were a lot of forgettable shows in the 70s and 80s. How many network shows were simply cheap copies of a more successful show on another network? But to your point, they stopped even TRYING to apply basic quality much less understanding what makes a hit vs what causes a flop.

[@TheLordGhee]

2011 I became a cord cutter. (at 53) my policy after that is to only have one streaming service turned on at a time (prime medio is a bonus but I Have not had prime in a while.) I was stunned to learn a friend of mine is paying 300 a month for cable with the HBO package which he dose not watch . The loss of the DVD market and now the lack of a way to get old movies and show easily is troubling as is the censorship of channels. Advertisements do not bother me and I am reading a lot more.

[@michaeldavis3819]

I love the $5 bin at Walmart and going to Goodwill and pawnshops to pick up extra cheap physical media. And there's Amazon in a pinch.

[@bentonmarcum8924]

I was a loyal viewer of Suits, Haven, and Person of Interest and several other shows. Watching on the network websites. Then they started that you had to have a TV provider crap. So I stopped watching. If I had TV why would I be watching on the website.?

[@DoctorInk20]

I legitimately miss the days when TV used to be a voyage of discovery. Hours I'd spend flicking through channels, trying different things, becoming a fan of something and memorising the schedule times so I wouldn't miss it. Now it's just a sea of mediocrity and nothingness. I rarely watch TV besides maybe two or three recent shows (recommend _The Brokenwood Mysteries_ if anyone's interested) and reruns of stuff I enjoy, but that magic is gone. I don't bother with streaming either, because I've seen better content from yesteryear. Been working through _X-Files_ on DVD most nights and wondering where the heck it's been all my life. Honestly, a sad time, but at least I'm reading more.

[@susannah1066]

I agree-I miss the big event shows like Brideshead Revisted or Roots-where everyone discussed it the next day. Now no one watches the same stuff.

[@sandman_says_runrunner4701]

Yup... I am watching "Magnum P.I." and "Miami Vice" at the moment and loving both. I have enough entertainment to last the rest of my life, so if Hollyweird burns... so bet it.

[@zirconiumdiamond1416]

To be fair, the studios couldn't allow Netflix to dominate, because they would have realized that there is virtually no other buyers of shows and paid peanuts. This is currently happening with anime and Crunchyroll. The studios part of Hulu had an out, but the other studios needed to ensure that the market had some alternatives. What seems nearly unforgivable to me though is that they pushed the app-based model which: 1) almost turned Roku into a different monopoly that would take all their money, and 2) annoyed the heck out of consumers, who now can't search across services, get recommendations across services, etc. They happened to choose the technical model that not only gave Big Tech the most power, it also made juggling multiple services the least tolerable. That is what forced all the studios to merge together to create the scale needed for consumers to justify another app on their homepage.

[@jarchack]

Streaming has become like the cereal aisle at the grocery store. Hundreds of selections, most of which are empty calories. I don't have the money for all those streaming services, so I just grab a box of Quaker Oats (KZbin) off the bottom shelf.

[@michaeldavis3819]

Physical media for the win!

[@AtelierOfWeebs]

If only there was a format in which movies could be presented for people to buy at a fair price and play at home anytime they want

[@DjaniRomero]

You've got a knack for this, loving your content!

[@joen8529]

Great stuff, really appreciate you spreading the word about all the problems created by the “streaming wars”! It’s been a disaster.

[@chrisw6164]

To this day, Amazon fails to mass-promote their rental service for movies and shows. No idea why.

[@theevermind]

They have a movie rental service? o.O

[@MrModamanReviews]

​@@theevermindit's streaming. Rentals and long-term rentals(er purchases).

[@aspensulphate]

Not only that, if you [are stupid enough to] purchase Amazon content, they actually make it difficult to find on their user interface. They "lowlight" it, so you will be more apt to "buy" more content, rather than watch what you've already "purchased".

[@anthonygray333]

Never considered the bandwidth charges. What a perfect storm of idiocy you have described.

[@wombatillo]

How can you have a classic network show when you make shows with "seasons" 8 episodes long and there could be two years between the "seasons"? These slightly longer miniseries will never have the same kind of broadcast slot fulfillment capacity as Cheers, Friends and so on.

[@melindahall5062]

It’s been like that in the UK for years..8 to 10 episodes is a season. I don’t get what you’re thinking about. Times have changed. The UK has many short series and they can be absolutely riveting. What is “slot fulfillment” anyway? Back in the day when a show would have 26 episodes a lot of it was rubbish. I would certainly prefer “The Crown” or “Doc Martin” or “A Handmaid’s Tale”. Shorter seasons..higher quality. You just must like sitcoms.

[@johndoe-hr6vp]

Production note for future videos: Look up the Spirit Halloween Hollywood Sign image. Don't know if you have Spirit Halloween in Canada but they open in old Sears and Kmart stores that closed because of mismanagement. It's a meme to imagine a spirit Halloween opening in a vacant Hollywood. Would make a good background for decline of Hollywood videos, and won't be confused with wildfires. Great video as always!

[@chaffsalvo]

Ahh the unintended consequences of simplistic decisions based on flawed analysis, due mostly to FOMO- fear of missing out.

[@Logan2070]

You are spot on with the issues, it feels like the providers are not listening to their customer base.

[@stivosaurus]

A fascinating history. "How Streaming *Bleep*ed up Everything" would make a great Netflix series.

[@michaeldavis3819]

It'll all straighten out eventually. Once the stupid people in Hollywood all go bankrupt, things will get better. In the meantime, I'll stick with physical media.

[@user-bl6ne3hc6n]

Thank God for Chuck Lorre, we wouldn't have anything worth watching if it wasn't for him, he warned about this 10 years ago,

[@fearmo1852]

Anyone else have a chuckle on how he positioned himself in alignment of the background to say Ho Wood.

[@cstephen98]

I remember this all being predicted back with Netflix and Hulu and as the networks, studios and media corps started getting ready to pile on. The prediction was that, as content fragmented more and more, people weren't going to trade cable for a host of services now costing just as much. They'd keep 2-3 'core services' like Netflix, Prime and Hulu and just subscribe for a month for the show you wanted to watch before cancelling(my plan for shogun). The other prediction was piracy would increase again. So far the predictions are on the nose. So instead of consumers getting the service the want and everyone making some money, they're hemeridging money as the market fragments more and more.

[@collegeman1988]

One of many, many mistakes Disney made was that when they created their own streaming service is that they could no longer charge Netflix money for having them stream their huge catalog of Disney movies and television programs, a lesson they’re learning too late. The same is true of Paramount and NBC. Their streaming services are failing because of the same mistake. I really do miss the old days of Netflix when they had an absolutely huge catalog of DVDs containing movies and television shows I’d never heard of before, and often if a movie or TV program I saw was fantastic, I’d go and buy them on DVD. While it really wasn’t practical for Netflix to continue to have entire TV series on DVD, I really do think they should have kept the DVD service for their huge collection of movies, including the extras that come with a DVD that just aren’t available on a streaming service. What we got instead was Netflix having fewer and fewer shows and movies on its streaming service we wanted to see, and more and Netflix original programming that was of low quality. Sure, there were some excellent movies and television series that were of high quality, but most of what Netflix has made is unwatchable garbage.

[@RJ420NL]

Your idea has merit as long as the shows are good. If they keep hiring the same writers that gave us Velma, Rings of Poop, Robyn Hood, and all the other garbage shows, they will never win the audience back.

[@MrBenfranz]

Studios aren't afraid of piling on the debt, because ultimately that debt will be covered by those of us who are American Taxpayers, myself included.

[@thegray5730]

You are more right than you know, since massive retirement funds are invested in media companies, the argument will be that the gov has to bail them out for the good of the people.

[@MrBenfranz]

@@thegray5730 Indeed. That does seem to be the signature move when the financial chips are down.

[@nhlcbj]

Not to mention the attempted smothering of physical media with the brick and mortar stores no longer selling dvds and blu rays. And, this is more relevant to gaming nowadays, but renting was straightforward compared to the convoluted crap we have to deal with today.

[@silverscorpio24]

The thing is, I think streaming _could have_ worked for companies like Disney and Warner Bros. Both have a huge backlog of shows people love. If they just set up a basic steaming service, charged $5 a month, and put up all of their old shows, behind-the-scenes specials, and maybe a holiday special or two it would've been better. But both of these companies placed ALL of their bets into streaming and pumped as much content into these services and focused on quantity over quality of their products.

[@davidford3115]

Indeed. Disney even has the infamous vault. Streaming could have been a way to exclusively allow access to some of those movies.

[@aspensulphate]

True, but the fact that they decided to cave to an insane political agenda makes it all moot.

[@sebytheman]

they pushed me to a 1960s-1990s playlist on my Plex server and that's where I watch my TV now lol

[@carlen2005]

I remember when Hulu started, and I could watch 2 week old episodes of Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld. Those were the days....

[@MrJeffcoley1]

My favorite part of The Masked Singer is when they reveal the celebrity, and I don’t know who they are. So I search the name on the internet … and I still don’t know who they are

[@melindahall5062]

I question your taste in television. “Masked Singer is rubbish. You obviously have too much time on your hands. Go read a REAL book.

[@MrJeffcoley1]

@@melindahall5062 OK I confess. I never watched the masked singer, but I did catch a little bit of it one time. You’re right, it is rubbish.

[@humbleopulence]

This underslept schlub still has time for a new Call me Chato video before bed! Cheers, Paul! This looks to be a good one.

[@ChristopherNealBUSHIDO49ERS]

In my opinion this has to be one of your BEST videos! Well done, sir!

[@remconoordermeer7015]

My biggest shock after hearing this video: “MySpace still existed in 2008!?”

[@บัวสีโรเจอร์-ศ9ฝ]

MySpace lives! Yep, it's still out there even now in 2024.

[@1lonecanadian]

Not sure why so many of the big networks pay their executives so much for their 20/20 hindsight. I never stopped watching network television, they just stopped making content I was willing to sit through commercials to keep watching.

[@Marinealver]

It was the change from the syndication episode format to the serialization season format. In a way movies need to write like syndicated T.V. episode now that the serialized trilogy is no longer the long form of video storytelling.

[@hugh-johnfleming289]

We cut cable a decade or more ago. Antenna. Lots of good old reruns. We also have a library nearby with lots of DVDs. Movie nights...

[@darkthrone7201]

👏👏 you said it all, Thank you 😁

[@gambinoswitchpot1203]

And I'm sure the same executives all got multiple million dollar bonuses through the years. The failure and subsequent enrichment of these managerial class dunses (throughout many different sectors) are one of the reasons us plebs are so pissed right now.

[@slayerstenis]

Chato! Are you front of Hollywood? It look so real, just like movie.

[@geekybugle4241]

Advertisement used to be enough back on the open tv days (yes, I'm old enough to remember before cable times), Cable made sense when it gave you advertisement free access to stuff not on open tv, especially the first iteration in México that had the channels divided by content (Movies, Old Movies, Mexican Movies, Sports, Etc.). But greed got the best of them, they killed physical media to force us into their walled garden where we pay monthly to see the few good stuff they put out and with no guarantee it will be available next time we want to watch that particular content. Then they thought there was enough market for everybody to get a piece of the Netflix pie... there isn't, especially when their content sucks. I've never been soo glad to have hold on to my DVD collection, I can watch the same movie as many times as I want without paying extra.

[@MrMoridinalthor]

Streaming didn't ruin things, their greed did. Streaming was viable when Netflix was licensing from the studios to show their content. They all wanted a bigger portion of the pie and split into a ton of different, diluted services that all charge what Netflix did.

[@CallMeChato]

I guess that is essentially my point. Thanks for the comment.

[@MrMoridinalthor]

@@CallMeChato Do you think people would be willing to pay $30 for one service that has everything? That doesn't seem unreasonable and it would probably make it somewhat sustainable.

[@ianramsey101]

I'd pay that to get Netflix to revert back to it's 2007 era form.

[@MrMoridinalthor]

@@ianramsey101 That's my point. There would be room for profit and big studios wouldn't have to do any work or build infrastructure.

[@disruptive_innovator]

I'm still fascinated that the big three letter networks didn't pivot to server services tech before a book delivery service ate their lunch entirely. Decades ago broadcasters were at the forefront of communication technology. They could be hosting much of the current internet traffic and raking in the money if they hadn't been so arrogant.

[@hazcat640]

I cut the cable at least a dozen years ago. I did so because TV was a steaming pile. It still is so why would I pay for any streaming service? Never have, never will.

[@thatpatrickguy3446]

Great job dissecting the chaos, and also recalling to mind Grant Tinker's quote! Grant Tinker was spot on, as was Pink Floyd with their "Thirteen channels of sh!t on the TV to choose from." back in the days when we in most of the US dreamed of having more than four channels (for those who could get all four of ABC, CBS, NBC, and PBS without too much static and fiddling with the antennas) to choose from. Streaming was a decent concept when it was JUST Netflix. With Netflix I finally got to see "The Double McGuffin" for the first time since I saw it in the movies as a kid in the 1970s! (Ernest Borgnine playing a villainous character? WTH? Yeah, I still love that movie. Shush.) All the mostly forgotten, many for good reason, movies and shows were potentially available again, and it was great. But then everyone wanted to milk dozens of gallons daily out of a single cow, and that's not going to work, ever. And then everyone got proprietary, like small children in a sandbox fussing over an embarrassment of toys. The longer it has gone on the stupider it has gotten, the more insipid the products, and the larger the black hole that the presumed eventual profits are disappearing into. Go back to the old model that I grew up with. It at least showed some sort of viability for the decades it existed while streaming has shown nothing of the sort. People want on demand viewing? Sell them physical media. DVDs and Blu-Ray, while shareable or resellable, weren't as expensive to produce and stock as maintaining cloud storage. It's nothing new and nothing surprising, but all your new surprises have resulted in hemorrhaging corporate money with the delusion of eventual profit. Stop it. Seek help. On the plus side from my perspective, all this streaming and on-demand garbage sure had driven down the cost of DVDs at my local used media store. I've gotten some great classics for my collection for low prices without giving the entertainment industry a cent! Alas, not found The Double McGuffin yet. But I hold out some hopes. 😛

[@thenecrophymm6591]

I still think most of this is the result of thinking "exclusivity" is a good thing. Nah, I don't want to sell my product to as many people as possible, just a very specific group of people...until 5 years later. Same problem in gaming.

[@markd.9538]

I’ve given up on American television. American TV is full of great worldbuilding - but no real advance story or arc planning - that usually gets ghosted or cancelled by its financiers after a couple of seasons, leaving threads of disappointment all over the place. I find myself turning to Korean TV. Korean tv for the most part is written as complete stories, 99% of the time the shows go for one season only, which means it has to be tightly written (in advance) and most importantly, engaging. The stories are complete. There are lessons there.