The Downfall of Streaming TV | The Bubble has Burst

[@Caleb_Denison]

Wow! Amazing to see all the comments happening around this topic. I guess I’m not the only one feeling some frustration around this. Thanks for tossing your perspectives in everyone, and keep ‘em coming! It helps me understand where the public opinion sits, and that informs my video content. Feel free to leave me a reply here if there’s something specific you’d like me to know!

[@edczxcvbnm]

To some extent I think exclusivity of all of these shows is a problem. Everyone is trying to control the entire pipeline and all of the content. Friends and Seinfeld didn't have reruns exclusively on NBC. You could watch them for whoever was willing to pay to show old episodes. With ads, I hope that changes the calculus on keeping everything exclusive forever. Additionally, when it comes to controlling the whole pipeline, that is a bit anti competitive. Take a show like Last Man Standing. It originally aired on ABC for six years but one of the big production companies was Fox's 20th Century Television. Not sure that will necessarily change again but all of this reminds of the anti trust law that broke up big movie studios back in the day. You could only watch an MGM movie in an MGM theater. I think streaming could use some of that.

[@BrandonBaecker]

Stop giving them more ideas to rob us Caleb! That reconnect fee has me pissed before it even happens. It's not our fault they've overspent on talent and content. There are too many streaming services anyway. We don't need more crappy Paramount+es or Peacocks. I hope some go under. What pissed me off the most was them robbing features we already have. I already canceled Max and about to cancel Prime because of it.

[@rizqi-hiktakaewi678]

Cinemas and theaters will be big again if they go Micro-LED.

[@rockutron9000]

You should do a deep dive on sports streaming and how they are squeezing every dime possible out of the customer base between subs on different platforms and exclusive deals on a per game basis. It’s getting wild.

[@Slick1020]

​@@rizqi-hiktakaewi678People will buy the tvs for home use. Hollywood is done.

[@TalentedTom91]

HD and 4K should NOT be a ‘premium feature’!!! It’s 2024… 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@floodlitworld]

It was HDR (High Dynamic Range) that was mentioned, not HD (High Definition). But yes, a valid point nonetheless!

[@TalentedTom91]

@@floodlitworld I understand the difference it’s ok but yes, a valid point nonetheless! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@maxmouche]

I agree but the sad reality is that so many people actually don’t give a sh*t about the quality of content they watch (because they’re too busy watching it on their phone and being on TikTok at the same time) - services have worked out that charging the minority of customers who DO care about quality a premium is the most profitable route…

[@zulfika_]

Making 4K a premium feature is justified because it takes up four times more server space than 1080, and currently, only 10% of users watch in 4K. Therefore, it makes sense to charge more for 4K.

[@coobebeatz]

Totally for example my 65 inch Bravia has 4k capabilities and SKy wish to charge for me to see things in HD. 🙄

[@redmcg2930]

This is why we should protect and use libraries! People keep trying to say libraries are dead, but libraries are free entertainment (beyond what you might already pay in taxes). In addition to books, most libraries have DVD's, comic books, audiobooks, printers, and more! My local library card also gives me access to Hoopla, Kanopy, Freegal, and Libby for ebooks, video streaming, and music.

[@ej3016]

when our libraries closed during pandemic Hoopla and Libby became invaluable - You Tube (yes with ads 🥴)(walk with cane live near Toronto so why am I binge watching hot tent camping in Maritimes 🤣😂) and Amazon Prime until end of 2024 - want to go back to MLB audio subscription so bye bye Prime

[@72breezy]

This comment deserves more likes

[@mariesjournal]

At the latest when AI becomes so powerful that you can no longer distinguish fakes from reality (wich will be soon), we will eventually have to come back to good old libraries for fact checking.

[@marccaselle8108]

I go my city's library once a week. I rent and rip DVDs easily. Boom, content.

[@fogsmart]

Use libraries? Not sure what I should read into this comment.

[@mikeschaeffer7262]

No, we're canceling our subscriptions because they keep increasing the fees with little to no additional content and then they bring in the despised ads.

[@1337Jogi]

The entitlement is real.

[@mikeschaeffer7262]

@@1337Jogi how so?

[@1337Jogi]

@@mikeschaeffer7262Well mostly because I hear from all sides how people are upset about rising pices ads and so on - calling the companys greedy. Like you saw in this video though the last 10+ years have been an exception. The market was financed by investors in an unsustainable way. It was not based on real revenue or monetization. I remember when I used to pay for cable AND had on top 15 minutes of Ads per 1h. And that with a fixed schedule, and mostly subpar content. Now we have video on demand and a massive pool of very high quality content and still I pay less and have few Ads. Of course this was not sustainable. The cost for production is massive and consumers now for the first time in the last 10 or so years are beginning to actually pay for it.

[@insertnamehere4419]

@@1337Jogiwut?

[@DavidMander-rs4uk]

Enjoy having no content while i enjoy my huge physical media collection and around 10tb of films, tv shows and music on PC 😀👍

[@andrewjpalla]

Dude, theres no way someone is going to charge me a re-subscribing fee. I'd rather just go back to reading books.

[@Lemohdtvdotttcom]

A "re-subscribing fee", what is that?!?!?!

[@BobRooney290]

there is no resubscribing fee.

[@zidan40o0]

when i saw the notification on my Prime Video subscription saying "we will serve ads now unless you pay an additional 4 euro fee" I knew it was time to go back to sailing the high seas. I stopped pirating a while ago due to laziness, but ads is where I draw the line.

[@karamkhoudari1836]

The high seas are calling back and apparently I, too, shall answer and keep my eyes on that horizon 😂

[@1lifeonearth]

Yo ho yo ho ☠️

[@mikemanning5019]

It's never been easier to set sail.

[@mrbishi634]

The thing that gets me back on the high seas is when they remove content, sometimes before I even have time to watch it. WTH did I just pay for?

[@mikemanning5019]

@@mrbishi634 Yeah, every time there's a movie I have in mind, it's not on any of the sites, when I know it was there before.

[@th3m0ut]

Since I mainly watch movies anyways. I just bought a 4k Blu-ray player and am collecting physical media again rather than streaming.

[@AlexBGamesONLINE]

Me too! I rip them to my Jellyfin server to maintain the convenience of streaming.

[@MuahMan]

@@AlexBGamesONLINE Is that a clone of Plex?

[@racineurr.8924]

Good solution but a bit expensive. What do you really do with a 3 years old DVD? They're collecting dust?

[@BannedOnMain]

@@MuahMannot quite a clone, but very similar. It doesn’t have pay walls for features that plex has.

[@BannedOnMain]

@@racineurr.8924 well, they’re not DVDs. UHD Blu-ray is very different. Most of us who collect physical only buy what we re watch often.

[@waelal-zubieri5358]

I don't feel sympathetic to these companies when piracy rates are skyrocketing due to this. Infinite growth they expect is not sustainable. They can't keep making features optional and keep increasing prices without consequences.

[@Tuntira]

Infinite Growth is the one concept that is hurting everything.... Every single industry craves it yet it never happens.

[@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570]

Drop all the so called 🏴‍☠️ names so we can get our free view on…lol.

[@supertrexandroidx]

Right, by some estimates, piracy has gone up by as much as 36% in the last few years. Also, there's plenty of evidence of long years of cable TV charges outpacing inflation, and I'm sure the same will prove true of streaming services. No doubt, if anyone really looked in to it, you would find almost as much overcharging and waste in Hollywood as you can find in US military spending. And as a side note, I'm all for everyone involved in the industry making their fair share, but I think people maybe need reminding that every time they get on social media to champion pay raises and residuals for everyone and his uncle, that they are also championing price hikes for themselves. ;)

[@franky-161]

Infinite growth in general is a concept that is impossible on a finite planet like ours.

[@ChocoHasFUN]

@@supertrexandroidx Will say, on that last point, that's more so a problem of the CEO's of these companies raking in millions upon potentially billions of dollars for themselves with none of it going to the people under them. They're making more than enough to pay the workers fairly, but they don't because they want that sweet cash. And to prove that they would have enough money: Nintendo has a CEO that only makes around $500,000 USD, gave everyone in the company pay raises recently with their Salaries being more than $50,000 USD, and have kept prices for their consoles as low as they could while making high quality products (Not including Pokemon because that's a GameFreak and The Pokemon Company problem). As of right now, they have a total of $11 Billion Dollars USD in the bank with no debt, no overspending, none of that. The gaming industry costs more than the entirety of the entertainment industry, so if Nintendo can do this without the usual price hikes, then these services can too.

[@benathow-frost8435]

The irony of this video having 8 un-skipable ads is brilliant.

[@SeedFactoryProject]

I use Firefox + NoScript + UBlock Origin. I see no ads unless it is part of the video itself, and those I can skip over by moving the slider. UBlock tells me it blocked 357 items on this page (ads, trackers, cookies, etc.)

[@erik_dk842]

What are you talking about? I use Brave browser on PC and KZbin Revanced on Android and never see any ads

[@stinkynacho2362]

Hard to call it irony when you consume this content for free. If you were sending him a check, it would be different. The problem is when you already pay money for a subscription AND THEN you have ads on top of that. That's where I find it to be absurd.

[@walterbrob]

I sprung for youtube premium. $14.00/mo. and worth it to me. I mostly watch KZbin for concerts and how to crap.

[@erik_dk842]

@@walterbrob Soon that won't be enough to avoid the ads, then they will want more money to avoid them. Much better to avoid the ads by other means

[@jedmerrill]

I joined Netflix so I wouldn’t have to watch ads. I switched cell phone providers so I wouldn’t have to pay for Netflix. Now my cell phone provider is paying Netflix for a scaled down, ad supported model I don’t have the patience or will to watch. Well, at least there is Amazon Prime, I thought. Next day, Amazon Prime added ads and I cancelled my Prime subscription within 24 hours. I guess I’ll just quit streaming altogether and be productive in the real world. Happy ending…unless you are a streaming service, which in time will go the way of Blockbuster if this customer abuse keeps up.

[@amazingeric97]

The Netflix Standard with Ads plan is not bad.

[@yomu6285]

🏴‍☠️

[@kahrlozt]

@@amazingeric97paying for ads ain't bad? they used to charge $7 they removed the middle options so you either pay low with ads or the highest plan. I will not pay for ads again.

[@mbern4530]

@@philippelarabie9871Also works for spotify, the free version has no ads with a ad blocker.

[@MrPC1121]

If it has ads its bad. I will not pay to watch advertisemens. ​@@amazingeric97

[@Bob_Smith19]

As someone who travels for work the breaking point was the restrictions based on IP address. I’m the account holder who pays the monthly charge. I canceled any service that implemented it and will continue to do so in the future. And a fee to resubscribe? They can shove that right up….

[@kuma_score7536]

it also sucks for people who travel or have family elsewhere. I have family in the US but live in Europe so I'll often be in the US for weeks if not months on end. my Girfriend is from the UK so same story there. My sister is currently backpacking Asia with her friends and won't be home for a few months so she's lost access to Netflix. to add to the issue there was supposedly meant to be a code you could apply for in order to use your Netflix outside your WiFi for a very short extended period which naturally turned into a scam and I've seen so many texts trying to pretend to be Netflix getting these codes to get your information.

[@mattbosley3531]

It's called a VPN, people. There are even free ones available. Or you can pay a pretty low monthly fee in order to be able to watch whatever you want in any country in the world.

[@Kurt_Affair42]

I think there's a fee for shoving things up their arses. Can't be sure...

[@J3nLai]

@@mattbosley3531free VPN sucks, so many restrictions that I rather not use them altogether

[@andremartel3396]

​@@mattbosley3531it seems as if you have no idea what you are talking about.

[@Leonard_Lewis]

If Netflix tells me that i have to pay extra to binge watch however i want then i don't want the service anymore.

[@nycmvl]

I’m so close to cancelling Netflix

[@The1stDukeDroklar]

@@nycmvl Already did.

[@paradigm2841]

What if they all do that?

[@Leonard_Lewis]

@@paradigm2841 I only sub to netflix so i can only speak for what i sub to, if the others do that i hope the subscribers have the gumption to stand against it.

[@NeilHunter-js3hv]

@@paradigm2841if they do they see a massive loss. Those who know how to will just find other ways.

[@midcatmn6877]

The CEO of Netflix made $40 million in 2023. For Netflix to cry about how they have to nickel and dime us to make ends meet is absolute BS. I'm done with these clowns.

[@kissthesky40]

They paid the Obama’s Much more. TV sux.

[@schs1977]

Netflix is not forcing anyone to subscribe. Believe it or not, you can live without Netflix.

[@frtzkng]

@@schs1977 While true, this does not validate Netflix lying about being poor while their CEO is getting paid sums of money many of us cannot even fathom. Not if one person quits Netflix, not if 20 million do. The end result wouldn't be a better (or better value) Netflix, it would be Netflix shutting down.

[@cd3xp]

Yeah the CEO are just GREEDYYYY. There’s enough money to pay writers correctly. don’t blame the workers for a fair wage.

[@socialwill]

I literally just picked up a 4K BluRay player and was surprised how much better the image and especially the sound stage is. We have become so used to compression, crushed blacks, and “ok” audio that it diminishes the awe that movies can and should bring. Streaming has diluted the movie and TV experience into something like unlimited ice cream with unlimited flavors. Sounds good but then the excitement of ice cream is now gone.

[@mrbell831]

Watching physical media on one of todays high end TVs is an awe inspiring experience. The visuals of compressed video are subpar at best.

[@T1tusCr0w]

Facts - I decided to jump into 4k Blueray for to get the LOTR 4k releases. I was thunderstruck. It’s NOT the same.. even a 4k film on Apple ( by far the best service quality wise ) is only about 1/5th of the full experience. It got me thinking maybe I should build my collection of classic again on 4k Blu-ray. & don’t get me started about my Sonos sound bar. - it suddenly had a fit and I’m like.. oh shit is that what I bought 😳🤣

[@ryans413]

Been a physical viewer for years now and Blu Rays quality beats streaming hands down

[@chrisjfox8715]

Us collectors have known how bad streaming compression is compared to physical for years now

[@kirkjohnson6638]

Sadly, the quality of the viewing experience is based on the quality of the media AND the quality of the equipment. Little soundbars do a pretty good job when you are just watching a sitcom or news ast, but to get the real theater experience, you need a serious sound system and a big screen. But the cost of such equipment, the procurement of Blu-Ray discs, and the space that must be dedicated is hardly worth the expense unless you have money to burn, a big house, and time on your hands.

[@Hyad3s]

Seeing ads, makes me hate that product and company.

[@kellyf8215]

Particularly when the ads are gross - Lume being the worst.

[@Icebearhaswares]

@@kellyf8215lmao “you’re gonna be leaking for days” 😂😂😂

[@WeatherMan2005]

Yeah generally almost all ads make me NOT want to go and buy whatever junk they sell

[@One.Zero.One101]

Lol yeah that's what some companies don't realize. When I see your same ads 30 times a day, I begin to feel resentful and I make a mental note to not buy anything from you ever.

[@Canuckrz]

I think one of the things that frustrates me the most with the streaming services is, they keep dumping obscene amounts of money into shows that were so blatantly awful and any random person on the street could have told them it was a bad idea. Netflix's resident evil, cowboy bebop, the reboot reboot, Amazons rings of power, the list goes on and on. And then once the piles of money finish burning, they ask for even more money for the subscriptions because the previous amount wasn't enough (because of all the money they burnt on frankly insultingly bad content). Its like someone graffitiing your house, then asking you to pay for the spray paint and labor.

[@Gwen3344]

@Canuckrz Agreed! The lack of quality content is why I finally dumped Netflix, and am contemplating dropping Prime as well. I don't know where, or how, the guy who made this video got the impression that there's lots of quality content being made by these streaming services. There is nothing further from the truth! By definition quality implies less quantity, simply because high-quality content requires artistry, attention to detail, creativity. I can count on two hands (with at least three fingers left over) the number of times I've had that experience on Netflix (or any other service for that matter) of watching content with intellectual, spiritual and emotional depth; or have had the simple pleasure of a satisfying story well-told -- and that was primarily programming streamed from British TV. We, the consumer, must remember that the course of trends lies with us. We can, and should, just say no. Unsubscribe without fear that life becomes somehow boring or unbearable without access to empty content crapped out by greedy streaming services.

[@keaton718]

Resident Evil was okay, it was an offbeat spinoff that would have been a cool enough thing to watch if it weren't Resident Evil branded. The show would have been cancelled after Lance Reddick died anyway. He brought the show most of the cred it had and they could have kept bringing him back as clones indefinitely, except he died irl. Must have been cheap to make compared to Rings of Power too.

[@54tristin]

I liked Cowboy Beebop!

[@noiburg8866]

At least cowboy bebop had some good music

[@neonnoodle1169]

Personally, I LOVE that I have never even heard of ANY of the examples that you mention.

[@Chris-pn2iy]

KZbin is full of free entertainment so why bother watching streaming TV. And there's a comments section that cuts down the boredom a bit.

[@MatthewDeGuzman512]

And full of creative ideas. Have u seen indie toons on KZbin? I have loads of faves ane they don't give an eff about what streaming TV has done to the industry and bringing people back together!

[@fyodor8008]

KZbin is pretty trash for pure entertainment, 90% of videos are a guy talking in front of a slideshow

[@redemptionjack4657]

With ads.

[@julianus_dux_bellorum9585]

I'm a 90's kid and I'm absolutely sick and tired of ads, excessive subscription fees and streaming services removing my favorite movies and shows. I've had enough and decided to start collecting dvd's and bluerays's, box sets etc. Now I can pay once and own all my movies and shows. Same issue with music. Why pay monthly subscriptions just to listen to my favorite music? I bought a old school mp3 player. It's very small. Has physical buttons. No touch screen. Consequently, the battery life lasts for days. Has a mucro SD card port so I can drag and drop all my mp3 files onto my player with afew clicks. No ads. No subscription fees. This is the only way I know how to protest.

[@Madamchief]

I'm with you! But how do you protect your data from corruption? I've lost almost everything I've ever downloaded including a lifetime of digital photos because of shitty storage devices 😮‍💨

[@xuxon24]

Dude if you grew up in the 90s how are you not used to ads? The only services that didn't had ads was premium PAY services like HBO. If you happened to catch a TV movie you had to watch basically like 45 minutes of ads and even now on streaming we don't have that.

[@julianus_dux_bellorum9585]

@Madamchief download your music and movies from safe sources. Keep your computer up to date with all updates and great anti-virus protection. Buy a 1 terabyte external hard drive and use tgst as your backup fir your music and or movie library. Have another library of all your music on your computer. And if your using a older mp3 player with external SD memory card, then obviously have a copy of all your music on that. This way even if your SD card and your computer shit the bed or get corrupted, you still have your external 1 terabyte gard drive. As for movies, just but dvd/bluerays and take care of them. If you do this you wo t ever need go lay for subscriptions ever again or listen to ads.

[@julianus_dux_bellorum9585]

@xuxon24 girl; I can't be bothered with ads. Yes I remember the ads on TV back in the 90's. But guess what? Cd's, mp3 files, vhs and dvds DIDNT HAVE ADS!. You insert a DVD or vhs and boom you can watch the movie whenever you like. With ads and mp3 files, you can listen to your music anytime anywhere without ads or subscriptions. Best thing about my old d hool mp3 player is that it's small. Easily fits in my pocket. Has physical buttons so I can actually play/pause or change volume or change the track without taking the device out of my pocket. It's also more discrete and easy to hid in case I want to listen to music where it's prohibited to do so. Has excellent battery life since it's not connected to the internet and dors t have a bright big touch screen to drain the dam battery. It has an external SD memory card slot so I pretty much have vomited storage space. I never have to worry about tracks being unplayable because you know, I haven't connected my device to the internet for too long. No subscriptions ever. All my mp3 files are MINE forever. I have so gs put into separate Playlist so depending on my mood I can chose my favorite Playlist. It's just so convenient and easy to use. Also mp3 players are note robust than our glass smartphones. It also has a proper headphone jack. No adapter or dongle needed. Dvd's and bluerays are definitely the way to go. I buy them once and I gave them st my disposal forever. Anytime I watch them I just insert and play. Absolutely no ads. No subscriptions. And I don't ever have to worry about those movies or shows dusapoering from a streaming service. My life is precious. I only have one life. I will not be forced aginst my will to watching fucking ads everytime I want to watch a show, movie or listen to music. That's my personal time. If corporations want to pay me a rate for my time, then I may on occasional consider watching their useless ads. Otherwise they can piss off. Your welcome to waste your time enduring with endless ads. Add up all the time you spent watching ads and you might realize. To each their own.

[@xuxon24]

@@julianus_dux_bellorum9585 you mention music a lot, they're hasn't been ads in music since the radio or unless you use free sources of music. If you are going to download then there is basically no issues and you don't even need an old mp3 player when even with a modern phone you can put music on it.

[@randommusings5449]

The golden age has already finished in my opinion. Nearly a decade ago, in my country there was Amazon and Netflix. Everything you needed was on there, and you could get access to a variety of content with just one of those subscriptions. Then all the studios wanted a piece, and chopped up the content map. Fast forward to today, there is a range of options and you need subcriptions to all of you want to legally access your favourite shows and upcoming movies. Adverts are just an extra insult.

[@fooleycooley04]

Sad facts .. and it’s overwhelming

[@epiclamp44]

Yup back when they had a monopoly they could easily buy up shows for streaming for cheap. Other companies realized it was a bad deal selling streaming rights when they could just make their own. Turns out having a streaming monopoly was better, who knew?

[@ShaferHart]

@@epiclamp44 it wasn't a bad deal, they were greedy and wanted more. At this point if they pooled all their content into one platform and charged what cable used to charge would be better for everyone involved.. but of course, huge monopoly issues would arise.

[@One.Zero.One101]

@@epiclamp44 Netflix was NEVER a monopoly, they were just trailblazers. A monopoly implies you had the ability to prevent competition from starting streaming services. And if they did, it implies you have the ability to kill them off with financial might or political connections. Netflix was just the first innovator in a new field, they never had monopolistic powers. If you want to see how awful a REAL monopoly is, come to my country. We have the worst internet, cellular network, cable service in the world and it's owned by 1 family.

[@jamesrowles9249]

This is why I believed in physical media for years and transfered all my collection to external hard drives. Now, whenever there's a show I want to watch again, or a movie, I just plug in the external hard drive and watch it, ad free, and convenient. Haven't paid for a streaming service since 2012.

[@syloui]

Do the same thing with video games. People got subscription fatigue, especially in this economy

[@BillyBob-xv3fu]

Keep your optical discs. Hard drives fail.

[@jamesrowles9249]

@@BillyBob-xv3fu trust me, I am! But I only keep the dvds around for burning and restoring.

[@Hatch3dLabs]

I’m joining this movement now!

[@111Renegade111]

Downside is that you're not watching anything new

[@rexcadral3468]

Let's be honest. It's an entertainment cartel. The "production costs" problem is a complete myth. The same companies are getting us on the infrastructure, content licensing, content production, and advertising. They are literally making a profit on every single one of these. Remember when the ISPs tried to throttle access to services that weren't theirs unless you paid more? This isn't about increasing costs, this is about increasing profit margin. It's greed.

[@MarkNOTW]

Exactly

[@whathappenedwhen7456]

Greed is what fuels capitalism. Stiff the consumer for all you can.

[@adinahirschmann3112]

@@whathappenedwhen7456 Vulture capitalism.

[@whathappenedwhen7456]

@@adinahirschmann3112 That is just one variety of capitalism gone bad or being toxic.

[@TheShepRad]

Bought a 4k player and buying physical movies on a weekly basis. Oh how I missed it. Instead of browsing through endless libraries in search of something to watch, I actually buy movies that I will want to keep and rewatch. Remember those days when you picked up 2 movies to watch for the weekend from blockbusters or your local video rental store? Yeah, it's back. And it's glorious to be able to watch it in superior quality.

[@EddieJazzFan]

I also borrow movie discs from the local library too. It's a good way to see older movies that you never got a chance to see.

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

Yeah I hate many dvs aren't available

[@SToad]

Lmao high five@gobbledygook5000

[@jamescarter3196]

@darkrulier Rentals are still a thing, and so are secondhand discs

[@peterparker2068]

I fear what will happen when physical media phases out. Best Buy stopped selling DVDs and physical discs for media and games.

[@SGxShadow]

Just got the notification from Netflix regarding "adding users". I currently have the highest tier ($22.99+tax). My children do not live with me. I'm not sharing my account with strangers on the street or even friends. It is my children. If this is forced... I will cancel the account. In Netflix's perfect little world, maybe all family members live together... that just isn't the reality for most.

[@commentinglife6175]

If your kids are on your tax return, they are part of your family and Netflix can take their service and shove it somewhere I can't say on here!

[@MrGettemTV]

If they’re not living with you they should be able to afford their own account 🥂

[@freestroke895]

@@MrGettemTV I think he's saying they live with his ex-spouse

[@Darkoverlord70]

​@@MrGettemTV None of your business either way

[@TheGeese188]

I have the same tier and you just have to open an account for them but it's still under your plan. I think you can have 2 or 4. I'm not 100% outside of your household on that tier.

[@michaelbeckerman7532]

People are now dropping streaming services for the exact same reason they "cut the cord" and dropped cable and satellite in the first place: it's too expensive! These companies are literally shooting themselves in the foot now and it's all for one simple reason: GREED. However, when people ditch streaming services, they won't necessarily be going back to cable or dish. Many of them are just simply telling ALL of those companies to go to hell and they are going back to Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray for all their favorite films. There are no ads on physical media and you don't ever have to worry about a streaming service pulling a movie you own off of their platform (right when you want to sit down and watch it). When you own a copy of the film on disc, YOU are 100% in control - of everything!

[@billmulvihill8452]

But it’s old stuff. How many times can you watch the same thing?🤔

[@michaelbeckerman7532]

@@billmulvihill8452 If you really love the film, lots of times. I have all my favorite films on 4K disc and I go back and watch them again all the time. Now, not everything will be available on disc, of course, but most of your favorite films will be.

[@c0rnd0g_19]

Exactly.

[@Darci3333]

Exactly....Suicide by GREED😂

[@Darci3333]

​@billmulvihill8452 I have many many dvds and cds....and I always add to the collection from the Thrift Store so no more of a problem of repeats no more so than these streaming companies keep showing the same Ole same Ole not adding new things very often....so not a problem.

[@alamaric5534]

This is why I have about 10k DVD and Blu-ray discs. I have my own streaming and they can not take any of them away. Harder for Disney to remove a blu-ray from my shelf than it is from their service.

[@tiloalo]

That's a lot of years of subscription still

[@WeatherMan2005]

How the heck did you get and store 10,000 discs? Impressive

[@kevind814]

You should probably start stocking up on additional physical media players as there will be fewer and fewer of those produced.

[@jimmyowens954]

10K DVD's?! That's got to be over $100K in DVD's. You've paid more than a lifetime of streaming for 10K DVD's. I guess you have a library to show for it though.

[@MarkNOTW]

Maybe you should start your own streaming service.

[@nsinghc2799]

Advertisements are back, Weekly Episode WAIT is back, high prices are back, nothing is in one place... yeah this is turning out to be worse than cable tv. Corpo greed is growing exponentially and need to stop, vote with your wallet folks!

[@panzaverde20]

Republican? Im all in...

[@lionroaring7021]

Yeppa

[@60gregma]

I wonder if anyone from these media companies pays any attention to what viewers think/want. They'd learn a lot just by reading comments like these.

[@kingtrance307]

@@panzaverde20- You mean Republicans GREED…

[@TheRelevantUnknown]

Do you have an opinion on the fact that since most streaming companies don’t make money, these corporations are paying us to watch on their service?

[@harveywhitehouse919]

I cancelled my disney plus when I found out that they've raised the yearly price to £109.90 this year, its ridiculous

[@ironfist7789]

Yeah, I just subscribe on and off now

[@Peeps7468]

Omg. That feels really high. In Canada, the Standard package with no commercials is $119.99CDN per month, which works out to £69.23

[@vincentimbesi3947]

I did the same. I now pay for 2-3 months out of the year to catch up on some shows I’m a fan of.

[@ironfist7789]

@@Peeps7468per month or year? :P

[@Peeps7468]

@@ironfist7789per year. :) I’m really surprised that people in the UK are paying 2x what Canadians pay. It’s wild.

[@tobinrysenga1894]

The water cooler talk died out as soon as we started watching streaming. No one watches the same thing at the same time after that point.

[@adriandillon7730]

The water cooler chat died with covid. After that we all work from home 😂

[@elpepelucho]

have you tried to have intelligent and meaningful conversations at the water cooler instead of regurgitating whatever you saw on TV the night before ? Is that how pathetic we've become ?

[@adriandillon7730]

@@elpepelucho I don’t have a water cooler in my house .. but I have water in the fridge.. i chat to it all day.. But it doesn’t give much back.

[@Broyale26]

GOOD.

[@One.Zero.One101]

So many people point to releasing all episodes at once as the reason for the disappearance of water cooler talk. I disagree, video on demand is the reason. When we had cable, missing an episode means waiting 1 year for the rerun to be able to see that episode. With streaming I can miss 4 weeks of a weekly show and catch up later when I'm not busy. Even with weekly releases, me and my friends aren't on the same episode because life just happens.

[@angelag669]

I didn't have any streaming services until about 4 yrs ago when I had to retire and since I am disabled, I don't get out much. I started watching movies/shows on streaming. I agree there is SO MUCH content, I have to keep a list of things I could possibly be interested in. I hate dealing w/commercials so I had gotten into the habit of just recording shows and watching them later and forwarding through the commercials. That is one of the things I liked most about streaming. That and the ability to watch at my leisure. It should not be all that surprising that things will change and change a lot. Heck, I am old enough to remember when there were only 3 channels + PBS to watch and stations went off the air about 1am.

[@ApolloT-vp5dn]

Streaming has become that boring and flooded with rubbish. The price increases and introduction of adverts was the end for me. So I'm back to building up my physical BluRay and 4K collection and having a lot more fun selecting the films I want to watch each month myself.

[@jbrickey]

I'm just not interested in owning physical media. It becomes clutter for me. 10yr ago I converted my DVDs (those worthy of keeping) to h264 compressed content and stored in cloud. Today, I purchase some content in cloud so no ads (for now). TBH, at this point in my life I will deal with ads over cost in most scenarios.

[@brotherplucker2]

Don't forget your local public/community libraries.

[@tylerrynberg]

@@jbrickey incorrect, you are not purchasing content in the cloud, you are paying for access to content that can be taken away.

[@jbrickey]

@@tylerrynberg ummmm, sure anything is possible but I'm not losing sleep over the possibility that Apple or Amazon may change their terms resulting in me losing access to a movie I purchased and watched 10 times. I will risk that in favor of decluttering my life. Too, I enjoy accessing my content pretty much anywhere vs. lugging DVDs and possibly a player, cables, etc. when I travel. But that is just me. To each their own.

[@RKDriver]

I run a Jellyfin server with a whole bunch of digital movies all in HD or 4k with surround audio. Only streaming services we really use are the free ones (with ads of course) like PlutoTV and LG's channel service which runs mostly Pluto content.

[@schumzy]

I went back to the high seas. Also have my own raspberry pi VPN, if you're wondering. It's the ads, it's the random price increases, it's the fluff on all the streaming platforms that I don't care about. What surprises me though is, as far as I can tell, the kids (younger gen) aren't on the high seas, it's the same crew that was there back in the day, yet the supposedly tech forward kids are still not there. I guess someone needs to teach them how to download a car.

[@CosmicRandom2122]

I'm gen z(early 2000s kid) and I sail the seas all the time. My dad was the one who showed me the ways.

[@SeedFactoryProject]

It is simple economics. Best Buy offers external hard drives for as little as $15.50/Terabyte. An HD film is about 2 GB, so you can store the film for about 3 cents. If your internet connection has surplus bandwidth allowance, it doesn't cost extra to use it for downloading. Compared to monthly subscriptions, you would have to watch a whole lot of TV and movies to match that price. There are also no ads and you can keep your collection as long as you want.

[@TheSmokeWatcher]

I’m Gen Z and we are DEFINITELY sailing. Trust me. We are the brokest generation on the planet. We have no other option. But also, we aren’t big on Movies and mainstream media, most of the content we consume is on social media.

[@TheeGlocktopus]

You can sit down with the kid, explain the entire process, and they will still look at you like you're crazy because that's "too much work" and they're lazy. Most of them don't own anything other than a phone anyways. If they can't tap a button and get what they want within 2 seconds, they won't do it. They don't have a chance sailing the seas. Saving 2 dollars isn't worth the time going through all the _torrent_ of information and processes to sail.

[@bogdan78pop]

I can stream anything from Romania , 1 day after they appear on any streaming services in US. I'm lucky and i don't know how long is gonna last , but i never payed any subscriptions in my life , i live in Chicago now ..!!

[@1533ramsay]

I'm so frustrated with Prime and KZbin. The ADS drive me crazy. You can't walk out of the room without the ads playing for 30 minutes. So listening in the background is NO longer possible....

[@MarkNOTW]

KZbin premium is my only subscription

[@One.Zero.One101]

It's so annoying when the ads are 10 times louder than the music you're listening to. It gives me a shock when the ads start screaming and I have to run to the computer to adjust the volume.

[@Bonjour-World]

@@One.Zero.One101 That is a hold over from broadcast TV .... with broadcast TV it is regulated to a 20% increase (or at least it used to be, the FCC has lost most of its teeth).

[@cl-audio322]

Ads have destroyed everything. I refuse to watch them, mute the tv, make it a point to never purchase what is shown in the ad, not use the product hosting the ads, etc. KZbin is borderline unviewable at this point. Time to touch grass.

[@SJAutomotiveDesign]

Get KZbin Vanced or Revanced. For free. I use it for 3 years already. No ads on KZbin whatsoever. For free.

[@Brisingr73]

If you know 3+ people who would be interested, I recommend splitting the cost of family KZbin Premium. I pay $5 or less a month for no ads and free music streaming 👌

[@drforest]

Cancelled a bunch of streaming I rarely watch and finally decided to pay for KZbin which I watch everyday.

[@concinnus]

Installing uBlock Origin takes less time than putting on clothes to go outside.

[@jamescarter3196]

LMAO, it is an ultimate act of whiny cluelessness to say "Ads have destroyed everything". You experienced a unique brief period where ads were minimized due to a lot of speculative money floating around streaming services. That golden era is over, you're lucky it ever happened at all, so you may as well quit crying about it.

[@cyndim8785]

Watching TV used to be free with commercials and we were fine with that, snack time and bathroom breaks etc. When we were first introduced to cable we were told if we paid for the services we would not have any commercials. Boy that was so nice watching MTV 24-7 without any interruptions. Then things started to change with 300 channels and nothing to watch with PPV costing extra. Time Warner was the provider that slickly started adding one by one commercials, now everything you watch is now PPV=Pay Per View. In 2024 we not only pay to watch TV but our 30 minute shows are really only 17 minutes of programming that we pay for. Streaming really cost more because you have to pay for the internet too.

[@anniesshenanigans3815]

I remember the worst channel ever was TNT when I had cable. It seemed like every 5 minutes they had 10 minutes of ads.

[@svr5423]

Free TV was really crappy. The quality was abysmal (bandwidth on the satellite costs money), they heavily cut the series and movies to make space for more commercials and they cut out english and other audio tracks to save on licenses. Got rid of my VHS library pretty quickly that I built up over the years.

[@wisenber]

"When we were first introduced to cable we were told if we paid for the services we would not have any commercials. " No. We were never told that. The only cable channels without ads were the premium movie channels. Every other station had ads from day one dating back to TBS and WGN. ". Boy that was so nice watching MTV 24-7 without any interruptions." Except that never happened. MTV had ads right after "Video Killed the Radio Star"

[@MrCaiobrz]

"Free" TV was riddled with ads, sometimes overlaying the show you were watching. Cable was the worse, with ads AND you had to pay. Streaming is cheaper than cable unless you want to pay for all streaming services, and adding internet costs to the equation is dumb, you have internet anyway. Even if I were to have full Netflix+Prime+Paramount+Disney I would still pay less than the cheaper cable available, and internet? never had to improve my internet to watch streaming 24/7. Everybody says Streaming is going down for years, but only Disney is going down so far. Prime is so-so (good shows are behind a second paywall), and Netfilx is great. No complains.

[@TheDiamoniteG]

I tried watching cable tv at a hotel a few weeks ago. Holy hell the ads are so loud and obnoxious and they show the same 5 commercials over and over again. I don’t remember cable being that bad when I was a kid or if comcast allows it while my old providers didn’t/normalized audio. Sometimes I couldn’t tell if we were watching the commercial or content unti a price showed up or something. If cable tv is allowed to ear rape me I don’t want it.

[@RobertoOrtis]

I don’t care about ads or streaming costs. People is stopping to watch tv because of bad content. Most of it is garbage

[@donny1960]

i have found that the "garbage" is the most watched things. It is all a matter of taste. But in general , I can find something worthwhile.

[@RobertoOrtis]

@@donny1960 truth

[@iRelevant.47.system.boycott]

Totally. Cultural stagnation.

[@donny1960]

@@iRelevant.47.system.boycott Just seems that part of the audience is stagnated. There is great content out there. Just have to have the ability to appreciate it.

[@Bonjour-World]

LOL ... most of it always was.

[@SireDragonChester]

Ads are slowly getting out of control. Not only on tv/stream and internet. They making billions, trillions from ads. Do you se anybody regulating it? NO. At some point ppl will get tired of ads.

[@johnsmith-ro2tw]

i cannot tell for every platform, but for YT, I believe they have yet to make it profitable. Google has been losing money with YT year after year, for over 20 years. YT's platform is 2nd to none. That level of quality means it costs a fortune to maintain and operate. Plus all the staff they employ. Now that they dominate the market, they will bomb us with ever more ads to start to make it profitable.

[@fyodor8008]

arrrrrrrrrrrr

[@rennmaxbeta]

Multiple price increases and an oversaturation of subscription services has killed streaming.

[@MrMark1]

Back on physical media now. The 4k disc player which also upscales blu rays is just fantastic. True Dolby vision and atmos on my surround sound. What a difference it is compared to the lower quality compressed streaming. I avoid watching films on streaming apps wherever i can now.

[@nelinjo]

How that 40$ per BR movie goes for ya?🤣🤣🤣🐑🐑🐑 Go Mark you really showed em 🤦‍♂️🤣

[@zeroturn7091]

I’ve some good results with a few streaming platforms where 4K actually looks decent. Netflix seems to be the worst offender though.

[@MrMark1]

if you are buying a limited edition steel book maybe. which im not... dont pretend like that arent any other options...@@nelinjo

[@MrMark1]

streaming has certainly got a lot better. its not just about how it looks though, the sound is the biggest improvement. but compare it side to side and the picture is a lot less, especially the colours. the streaming platforms dont have any specific settings like your player does too. the picture is so smooth, you really notice the difference when you go back to streaming. for many people its fine, some watch stuff through their tiny TV speakers, but for proper movie lovers, they spend a lot of money on their set up, its their passion. would be a waste to spend all that and to watch very low compressed streaming. dont forget a 4k disc can hold up to 100 GB on it. even an old music CD is way more superior to music streaming apps. @@zeroturn7091

[@ZdrmonsterProductions]

@@nelinjo He could be just pirating the movies and burning them onto his BD-Rs, you never know...

[@BadBeardDude]

I've been downsizing my subs recently. I've gotten really into collecting physical media (Blu-Rays, 4K UHD) and I'm enjoying shows and movies again. I feel more connected to them. Most of the time when I'm browsing streaming services when I decide to log into them, I'm so overwhelmed with content, and most of it is just fluff, that I end up logging out again having decided on nothing. So I'm hopeful that instead of physical media declining in sales, it gets a second life the way that vinyl has.

[@DMS-pq8]

I'm with you on physical media, The problem is a lot of newer TV shows and movies aren't being released on disc

[@BadBeardDude]

@@DMS-pq8 this is true. And many shows that get a physical media boxset release are on DVD, not Blu-ray. But I remain hopeful that as more and more people get disillusioned with streaming, whether it's from sub-standard content, price hikes, shows just being deleted as tax write-offs never to be seen again, etc., people will look to physical media again.

[@amen_ra6926]

But the cost of a couple of discs is more than one month of streaming if you're buying. Especially if they are 4K. Unless you're buying previously owned or going to the public library checking them out if your local one hasn't shut down. Plus what happens when you've watched the movie a couple of times? We all have piles of DVDs collecting dust. I played a Blu-Ray documentary video a few months back. It had been years since I used my player. I haven't ripped a DVD in probably almost 10 years. Titles and box sets aren't released as fast.

[@christopheranderson5803]

Also too, I buy all my movies digital. Around 1000 movies so far, Apple, Google, Microsoft and I have never experienced an ad. They pretty much treat it like a DVD. I started in 2017.

[@DMS-pq8]

@@christopheranderson5803 You do know those companies can remove those movies anytime they want so you aren't really buying them just buying access to them for as long as the companies want to provide it

[@jtmichaelson]

Streaming TV didn' really click with me. I watched a few TV shows to binge watch and a few horrible 80s horror movies on Tubi, but I nixed my Netflix, Hulu and Disney streams because, I'd just sit there and scroll for too long before deciding there's nothing I want to see. Just like the days of Blockbuster, walking aisle to aisle looking for a movie that didn't appeal to me. So now, I just buy TV show boxsets and DVD/Bu-Ray movies. They're practically giving them away on eBay and Amazon.

[@michaelwhorton8286]

At least ads will never infiltrate my huge DVD, Blu-ray and 4k Blu-ray collection that I've been building for the last 22 years. If I watch ads I will watch them for free with my antenna or Pluto TV. I haven't paid for TV since 2008. The corporate greed was terrible back then and it's worse today.

[@joelface]

how many of those discs have unskippable ads at the beginning?

[@analogblues]

@@joelfaceNone. I have a huge amount of physical media, too. It takes 3 seconds to skip past any promos with the chapter advance button.

[@jennifertarin4707]

My parents have an entire closet in their basement that's full of dvds and vhs tapes

[@EPHRAIMrising]

All physical media forms do have a lifespan though. It'd be wise to back up that physical media on a hard drive, or some kind of cloud storage.

[@je19921]

Your point is weak tho, as building a 4k blu-ray collection in itself cost 10X more than paying 12 bucks a month for Netflix... I mean one blu-ray is 30$, so of course you can go the i'm rich and can buy every movie route. But it remains fairly limited (you probably only have like max 300 movies to choose from compared to catalogues of thousand of things), and is super expensive.

[@jameswkndmechanic174]

A lot of what you've said is right on. However, I wouldn't agree that there are "so many absolutely amazing shows". That's one reason a lot of people (myself included) started buying Blu Rays & DVDs again.

[@SeedFactoryProject]

If you are at all selective about the kinds of shows you watch, there aren't that many choices.

[@Syndiate__]

Yeah I agree with your sentiment about the quality of shows these days. It just feels like shows are now trying to be super dramatic and serialized. I miss shows like The Twilight Zone or Simpsons, which focused more on the actual writing and ideas rather than trying to create a long-running serialized story that's been done through and over at this point.

[@bmasters1981]

@@Syndiate__ That's why Emergency! (that 70s NBC medical/action series w/Mantooth, Tighe, Fuller et al.) is a staple of mine on DVD-- it got right to it, and didn't bore me with all the romantic backstories and other mishegas (Jewish for tomfoolery); just well-done firefighting, rescues and medical drama.

[@fandibus]

I was happy to subscribe to many services. Prices were decent and no ads. But the ads creeped in and prices have gotten out of control. I've cancelled nearly all services. Back to pirating I go.

[@ChicagoRob2]

Side-load Bee TV on your Firestick and you’re ready to rock.

[@fandibus]

@@ChicagoRob2 nah I run my own server. I’m all set.

[@wezzman1]

100% I stopped pirating cause as you said, prices were ok, no adds and ok quality. Now back to to the "lime wire" days😂

[@LazyCrazyGuy]

Greedy people can't help themselves. It's never enough. They can't just maintain the status quo. They must continue to gouge you instead of being content with gaining more subscribers.

[@pokiblue5870]

i dont mind the ads but make the service for free like TubiTV

[@MicheIIePucca]

Greed is rampant.. we cut the cord over 15 years ago after about a decade of paying $120+ a month for satellite tv (Bell), and stayed with netflix and amazon. I added Disney since they decided to remove their movies from other streaming companies and go on their own. Now apple is doing their own thing, as are others. Now, if you want a decent selection, you need to get subscriptions to like 5 different companies and ads to boot. I am getting to the point I am going to cancel everything again.

[@lfhaneman]

As an economist (who actually never cut the cord), you are spot on with all your points. Poignant point about the loss of shared experiences when at work we could discuss last nights episode 4 of “Lost” and our reactions and predictions. Great video!

[@MrRicklynch57]

One thing a lot of people don't realize is this is how all new businesses start. Remember when a Lyft was $3 to get across town and now it is $30 to get across the street. People forget the early days of Netflix streaming was older movies and TV shows where the catalog was not that expensive. Cable started the same way. One of the biggest sells was that there were no commercials and no antenna. However, early stations like USA and TBS were just showing reruns of Leave It To Beaver and old John Wayne westerns. Once they were forced to create original content to be competitive they began adding commercials.

[@syloui]

High interest rate environment means hedge funds can't keep pumping free money into companies that don't actually make a profit. This business model of rapid growth being their only plan was doomed from the start. We never should have gotten what we did and now those companies are feeling the brunt of training the customer base to expect what we had. Don't be sad that it's over, just be glad that it happened. Digital storage space is cheaper than ever before, so best strategy would be to just hoard copies of physical media on a cheap NAS and be your own streaming service

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

The difference being. When netflix originally started. They hosted content that was made by just about every big mainstream studio or publisher. You paid a your sub fee and you had access to a lot of things. Then everyone started pulling their content off netflix so they could host it on their own streaming platforms and the whole idea of paying for multiple streaming platforms wasnt something that was ever going to last in this day and age so under that premise alone the bubble was going to burst. Now you pay for a service and you still get ads... so why bother paying?

[@dgrblue4162]

Remember when Netflix was going to spin off it's streaming, and they lost like 30% of their subscription base. Whoops. 😂

[@dgrblue4162]

​@@Rose.Of.Hizakimost companies had no understanding of streaming. They just sold the license to their programming. Also, Netflix originally just gave streaming away for free. Sure, it wasn't the curated library it is today, but it was free, and you needed a decent internet connection to run it

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

@@dgrblue4162 It wasnt free. You still needed to pay $5.99 to access it. That $5.99 was for their DVD subscription business. So streaming was included as part of the package when it became available. And as you said... Needed a good internet connection to run it.

[@RobertJToledo]

You absolutely nailed it. I'm so sick of the corporate greed. Cord cutting will be replaced with stream cutting. I'm done!

[@sumomaster5585]

greed? what greed, did u watch the video? he said they are not even making money!

[@joelface]

@@sumomaster5585 They're all owned by major corporations that are, in fact, making boatloads of money.

[@sumomaster5585]

@@joelface I'm not here to defend billionaire corps, but common sense dictates you wouldn't run a unit that's always losing you money now would you?

[@joelface]

@@sumomaster5585 you’re right. But I suspect that it’s more about wanting continual “growth” rather than simply preventing losing money. They need to constantly prove to investors that they should keep investing with them, so they need to try to show that they’ll keep increasing in value. It leads to a business model that gets less and less affordable over time.

[@ZdrmonsterProductions]

Modern mainstream media bad, Video Games on SNES good!

[@kbanks5754]

I've rediscovered my local library, and on top of movies I've been enjoying new books and authors I wouldn't have encountered in a digital space. Plus, the librarians and volunteers are kind and genuine. ❤

[@BaldybynatureFpv]

I just pulled my Blu-ray player out ,every time you turn around Netflix is talking about another rate increase!

[@floodlitworld]

They will happen like this because execs now have a button that says "more money" then can press anytime. Since shareholders demand growth every single quarter, that's either got to come from (1) lower costs, (2) more subscribers, or (3) increased prices. Given that option (2) has started stalling, they're gonna hit (1) and (3) now to hit their quarterly targets.

[@mikelinton6946]

Cable TV has increased in price substantially also. I just switched from Comcast Xfinity to Hulu Live's highest cost tier and still saved $130/month on my bill. Streaming is still a significant lower cost as cable where I am.

[@kevlarcardhouse252]

I think the big thing to remember about this whole thing is the companies did this to themselves. Netflix started making originals precisely because every studio started withholding content because they decided they would rather have their own service than have someone else take a cut. In typical fashion, they just saw the extra profit and not the immense amount of work building the architecture of a streaming service from scratch, running it, promoting it, competing with everyone else, etc. Now that these same execs are crying that they are struggling to make it work, I can't say that I empathise. Same old story: Everyone thinks they are going to be the next Coca-Cola with their soda that is new but doesn't taste any better.

[@SaintChicagoJay]

Coca Cola is horrible

[@mariohnyc]

Studios and content distributors did so due to shrinking profits from cord cutting. The internet/streaming blew up the cable TV business model, and you witnessed the knee jerk reaction to it. The music industry suffered a similar fate a couple decades ago.

[@epiclamp44]

Or maybe they just didn't want Netflix having a monopoly? You know that bad thing when a single company owns everything? Or is it suddenly good now?

[@jdevlin1910]

These days I'll typically pay for a month of a service if there's something new out I like, and then just cancel until something else comes out on it. This leads to having one or two services being paid for a month, cutting down the cost and making the premium tiers less of a robbery. Of course they know this and are trying to break people by going back to weekly episodes but if you're patient you can just hop back when it's the end of a season. The frustrating part is still that it's a constant battle with these companies to keep their services user friendly and not letting them just feast on my paycheck.

[@TheNotedHero]

In Australia, cable sucks because they throw in ad breaks multiple times throughout an episode and those ad breaks total up to as much time as the content (with longer and more frequent breaks towards the end of a movie or show), exactly how it is on free to air tv. So in that regard, streaming services are still superior. And cable is a set schedule that you have to record to watch back at your convenience. And then there's piracy... A part of the switch to streaming that you overlooked was it was in response to content piracy. Any service that makes it easier to get content legally will always reduce piracy. Valve's Steam service did that for games. Netflix did that (for a time) for movies and tv shows but I'm once again seeing many people online saying they're going back to piracy now because it's easier to find stuff to watch than having to search and pay for multiple services. And when you throw in the pain of only specific non-sequential seasons being on one service and the rest on another, that makes piracy even more appealing. I think the companies have forgotten the commercial pain of that peak piracy era and it's about to come back and smash them in the face again.

[@A1stardan]

I still miss kickass website Used to pirate a lot, steam has definitely changed me, I'm glad steam is still pro consumer

[@dathyr1]

I agree with you in this video. First, I dropped cable TV several years ago to go to streaming thinking it would be cheaper. I now dropped all my streaming services which were NetFlix, Disney+, and now called MAX because of the nickel-dime increases each year. I also found myself not watching them that much because most the content I have seen many times or didn't care for the content. I never got into Hulu, You Tube TV, and other similarities costing now 70-80 dollars a month or more. I now just enjoy watching regular You Tube video content which has allot of good topics. I also have an Antenna to get my free local channels. I don't miss any of the cable or premium streaming services anymore. All these services are going to get worse instead of better. Take care.

[@jaykuhn1764]

Agree. This video speaks to people living in front of the TV apparently. OMG. Us consumers can take it or leave it.

[@adjustedfate]

I’ve had KZbin Premium for a few years - love it. It’s my only subscription that I purchase for the no ads and background play features. The subscription is cheaper purchased thru the website than the app. 💡 If I want to watch a cable channel/show waiting until midnight or the next day to watch freeTV on the channel’s app is not a problem. I’m patient, have a job and sleeping to do.

[@TheRokaphella]

Never forget. Its ALL about the shareholder. Not the content, not the price, and certainly not the consumer.

[@bgroesser]

Yeah, but if you lose subscribers, you aren't doing shareholders any favors.

[@chrisjfox8715]

​@@bgroesser of course, but a lot of what Netflix has gained them subscribers despite the hate

[@T1tusCr0w]

I’m sick of it. Enough is never enough. It needs to end.

[@pokiblue5870]

@@chrisjfox8715it is insane to see that netflix keep going up with subs despite the price increase every year. The price alone makes me not want to download it, maybe pay just for 1 month and watch everything i want and then unsubbed

[@commentinglife6175]

The problem is, shareholders were harmed by the explosion in streaming services too! Those companies, such as Disney and Comcast, gave up guaranteed licensing deals in favor of creating their own systems with all the overhead WHILE STILL having to try and compete with Netflix. That led to the over-production we are currently seeing with the MCU properties, for example, especially when each season a max 10 episodes unlike the 24 of network TV of old.

[@sly_perkins]

What I miss about cable/satellite is the instantaneous channel changing.

[@redemptionjack4657]

Then get free cable packages like public broad cast. There are still good channels to watch.

[@BMar1andonly]

13:22 Disney already added Hulu into Disney Plus, HBO already added Discovery Plus into Max, and Peacock and Paramount already discussed a merger. Consolidation is not a matter of time but rather its already been happening lol

[@jokingtiger]

The difference between the first two and the latter is that the same company owns both platforms so merging the two services makes financial sense. The latter is a way for both companies to get a larger consolidated user base just to be competitive. Disney owns Hulu and Discovery now owns WB so they are trying to reduce overhead to stop hemorrhaging subscribers and money.

[@BMar1andonly]

@@jokingtigerin other words they are consolidating.

[@Wheelman2004]

@@BMar1andonlyTechnically yes, but two streaming providers under the same corporate umbrella coming together means basically nothing for us consumers. The one you mentioned that could be interesting is Peacock and Paramount Plus coming together. That could really start the ball rolling towards something that looks like Netmaxhuluparacock Prime +

[@TheFeist77]

yes, the reason we had commercials in the first place, was to pay for the free over the air tv. Now it is just to line the pockets of CEO's and wealthy stock owners.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

Yep, went to cable long ago because it was ad free. It will never end.

[@RbNetEngr]

That’s not really true. There are a lot of costs that the streaming providers incur, so obviously they need to make a profit to stay in business. Also, the content that the present needs to be licensed, and the content providers keep raising their rates. That’s why you periodically see notices from your streaming provider about a channel that may disappear from the service if they cannot negotiate a new deal. Content costs money to produce.

[@Lock2002ful]

@@RbNetEngrBut how much though? And how is that money split up? I see all these people like content creator of this video shilling for big corporations needing money when the truth is that they are raking in profits and paying out millions to their shareholders ceos and so on. Ramping up prices for no reason is a very well known tactic. If advertisers, content producers, content providers and hell even actors can get away with it they will just say it costs more when it really doesn’t more, they are just spending more on unnecessary things and more on people who think they are entitlement to be richer than rich. Bottom line, It’s quite easy. Where I live, I am currently paying for netflix, hulu, prime, disney plus and apple tv plus and they all have great content that I support with about 10 to 15 dollars per month which cost me shy of 60 dollars per month all in all. That is acceptable for the quality and quantity of content. However if the start jacking up prices more, removing features, bringing in ads, I will just cancel and start torrenting again. It is that easy. VPNs are cheap and internet is fast and doesn’t have any restrictions on how much you download where I live.

[@vanman9607]

@@RbNetEngr FINALLY, someone can see the big picture. Yes, streaming has costs too, and they aren't giving you the service for free. Also, as consumers leave a specific streaming service, that service's income goes down, but their costs don't, so the remaining users may get a price increase to cover the costs the service still incurs.

[@Bman67]

@@RbNetEngr I don't think @TheFeist77 is talking about streaming or even cable. Originally you bought a tv and an antenna and picked up just a handful of tv stations for free, with commercials that paid for it. And that was absolutely true.

[@Wolverine626]

As much as I hate the higher cost for ad-free 4K streaming, the way Amazon has done it is the worst. Not only do you pay around $150.00 a year for Prime, with very few benefits, now they want an additional $3.00 a month for an ad-free Prime Video on top of you pay for Prime yearly. It's so annoying.

[@Wolverine626]

@@philippelarabie9871 Aside from the occasional KZbin video, my typical viewing habits are strictly on the TV.

[@mattjacksonfirejackson1]

You can pay for prime video on its own

[@Wolverine626]

@mattjacksonfirejackson1 True, but then no shipping. Even so, it's the price of Prime Video plus the $3.00 charge for no ads as opposed to the price of Prime Video with ads or without ads.

[@Wolverine626]

@philippelarabie9871 Cool. I've always wanted to try that, but my current living situation doesn't accommodate something like that.

[@GravVityz3]

Not defending but when you say $150 and very few benefits you have no idea of the true shipping cost. If your ordering stuff weekly or in a lot of people’s cases daily your by far surpassing that $150 within a month or 2

[@KCMoe]

I think you nailed it down as much as you dared to. And, frankly, the ugly truth of it has been in front of our collective eyeballs for the past 15 months. There's no such thing as a free content viewing lunch. So, where to spend my anti-ad content viewing dollars? Maybe it's time to put that money to work where it offers a return. Like an IRA. And maybe it's time to get reacquainted with reading, talking to my neighbors, hanging out with friends, or finding a better hobby than watching increasingly bad productions.

[@MBR4740]

Canceling is not only streaming services but other subscriptions in general, including news media, software etc. The consumer is getting fatigued with the whole business model of “subscriptions”, including goofball subscriptions for heated seats for vehicles. Soaring food and housing (or mortgage) costs has placed many budgets under siege and people are just slashing to the bone. Not to say streaming subscriptions won’t bounce back but people will likely strip budgets to the bone and restart at base level to bring expenses under control.

[@Dave102693]

open source software and retro tech ftw!

[@Veganisbadhunter-wx5nt]

Totally agree. 👍

[@redemptionjack4657]

Streaming won't bounce back many rediscovered the perks of pysical and piracy.

[@markt4605]

As someone who works behind the curtain in the cable/entertainment industry, it was only a matter of time before the ads found streaming. I am old enough, really old, when cable had limited ads when rolled out to towns in the 70’s and early 80’s. Ads followed. The studios who counted on the cable providers (Cox, Comcast, Spectrum, Etc..) to pay ‘per subscriber fees’ to them, now find themselves with a hole in their budgets from the cord cutters. Follow the money, this is their way of getting those dollars back.

[@BagHolder323]

This is by FARRRR your best video. We don’t always need to hear about the latest TV and how many nits it has. Exploring topics that are related in theme can also be engaging like this one. I might be biased here because I worked in the entertainment Industry but I can say with confidence you NAILED this material. Good job!

[@TerriSchurter]

I am old enough to remember when there were just three channels and you had to watch shows when they were aired. That is what fuels water cooler discussions.

[@zrrifle.]

Back then the content on network TV was of much higher quality - not the endless junk available today. Not to mention the talent.

[@reginagillette2993]

I went back to an antenna on my tv.

[@Bonjour-World]

We had to have a 75 foot tall antenna tower to receive broadcasts from 3 TV stations. Now I only need a 20 foot tall antenna pole to receive broadcasts from 45 TV stations. But I rarely watch any but the four main ones.

[@Tomhyde098]

I saw the writing on the wall back in 2020 when prices starting going up during the pandemic and services were cutting content. After I couldn't find my favorite movie anywhere on streaming I started heavily collecting physical media. Four years later I now have 4,500 movies and 250 television shows on Blu-Ray, DVD and 4K. I now only have Apple+ and Prime, I'm canceling Apple this weekend after I finish Masters of the Air and canceling Prime when the annual plan expires in July. It's strange cutting out streaming because back when I cut cable I thought streaming would be the future.

[@josepha.r5839]

Yes. During the pandemic.

[@squishybrain]

I don't understand. At a cost of, let's say, ten dollars per DVD you would have paid at least 45,000 dollars over the last four years. Streaming would have been significantly cheaper.

[@Syndiate__]

@@squishybrain DVDs are NOT that expensive. You can easily find large packs of DVDs at thrift stores (physical or online) for like 20 dollars, and I don't even think a lot of DVDs are that expensive at grocery stores (BluRays would). But even without that, the access to content matters the most, not necessarily the price.

[@wendyash6915]

I dropped cable around 2009, way before it was the thing to do. Everyone looked at me like I had three heads. “You don’t have TV?” “What do you do?” I hate commercials, so it wasn’t a tough decision. All of the TV shows I had watched had their series finales and since I had stopped watching live TV, and had fast forwarded through all of the commercials, I didn’t have anything new to watch. Best decision I ever made.

[@ziploc2000]

I had cable for a couple of years in the early 90s before dumping it. Where I lived in London UK the original model as you choose individual channels you want, and paid $1-2 per channel/month. After a couple of years they started "packaging" channels, so to the the ones I wanted I had to also get 2-4 others I didn't want. That meant to get the channels I wanted I'd be paying 3-4x as much - so I dumped cable. With the money I saved I was able to rent or buy DvDs, and still have my collection of DvDs that started back then.

[@wendyash6915]

@@ziploc2000 I have quite the DVD collection myself, somewhere around 600 individual disks. I have now consolidated them out of their packaging and into two binders which I watch on occasion. I do have more than a few streaming platforms, though, so I may have ultimately traded one problem for another.

[@EstamosDe]

I quit tv after 2011, also quitted following football at the same time, two of the best decisitions I have made. All of the time wasted in both activities (I didnt even played football, so it even wasnt something that represented me). The only exception I made was when someone was watching early Simpsons chapters, that were still transmited here in early 2010's

[@dgrblue4162]

Yup, I ditched cable about that time as well, at first I thought it would be difficult to do without, but I found alternatives and, I haven't missed it.

[@ziploc2000]

@@wendyash6915 A quick and dirty count suggests I have 1,000-1,500 DvD cases, many of which have multiple disks - e.g. the boxed sets of Aliens, Resident Evil, Back to the Future, Indiana Jones, Buffy etc. 😁 I have bought 7 movies on Amazon Prime, one of which I also have on DvD so no idea why I bought it twice. The rest were not available on DvD at the time.

[@andrewc31394]

After learning that Vizio has been acquired by Walmart and will feature their ad implementation, I don't think I'll ever consider them as a TV brand I'm interested in going forward. Kind of a bummer

[@wyo_garage20]

They shouldn’t be anyways. Absolute junk TVs

[@bigduke5902]

What's become of TV and the culture surrounding entertainment as a whole over the past decade has made me realize how easy it is to live without.

[@markmunroe-hz8rf]

I agree. I have KZbin, indie comics, manga and audio dramas.

[@TransCanadaPhil]

@@markmunroe-hz8rf amen! audio dramas are the great lost art of media that is so unfortunately largely unknown to most people. I always rave about stuff like the productions coming out of that "graphic audio" company. You have to go back to the 1940s (at least in North America) when audio-drama was a mainstream thing; so it largely even predates the boomers. You have to go back to "The Great Generation" before there is any collective memory of this medium. The internet has made this lost medium viable again.

[@markmunroe-hz8rf]

@@TransCanadaPhil there are new audio dramas being made and available. You can search Google.

[@bmasters1981]

@@TransCanadaPhil Especially with the old-timey NBC Radio Dragnet w/Jack Webb-- at a thrift store when I was staying with my sister in Alabama, I found a small boxset of audiocassettes (6 in all) that had 18 assorted broadcasts of that original radio series. I heard all of them all the way through, and I was hooked, so much so that I purchased a release on CD that has all the radio Dragnets ever done from 1949-55, plus American Forces Radio Network repeats, and plenty of bonuses (one being an Australian version of Dragnet modeled on the American one); it's well worth the money, and more worth listening to than this inane country, rock and talk radio.

[@scottkempton6085]

One sure way to avoid this whole warfare: stop watching TV. Imagine you're living in the days when before they had TVs and find something ELSE to do. Talk to people - in person. Go to the park. Work in your garden. Wash your car. Prepare an actual meal in your kitchen. Volunteer to help someone learn how to read. Etc, etc, etc......

[@iRelevant.47.system.boycott]

Better to custom code yourself, than to be Television program(ed).

[@Lurker-dk8jk]

@@iRelevant.47.system.boycott Well said. Same could be said for social media and other forms of viral entertainment. Mental debilitation where our eyeballs and our information are being sold for profit.

[@markigirl2757]

i don't watch and still find free entertainment without doing anythin u listed in ur comment so i agree its possible lol

[@rachelesmith3342]

I stopped watching tv about 4 years ago and my friends and family think I’m weird. I didn’t stop for any grand or meaningful reason other than I was tired of paying for service and stupid shows and I was busy and saw no value in watching tv anymore

[@yurei8]

Hey, you sound like some sort of revolutionary person. I may have to report you to the authorities. Just kidding!

[@MarkovianMan]

In addition to all of the points you made, it's very annoying that seasons have become shorter (10 or fewer episodes) and it's YEARS in between seasons when it used to be a few months. People might be inclined to keep their subscription going if the wait was only for a few months vs. a few years.

[@FlyNavy1271]

I agree with this completely. They say the cost of production went up. Yet the number of episodes per season aren't even half what they used to be and it often takes 2+ years to get new seasons. With that being said their costs are the same (probably lower) as before yet they want to bend us over with bullshit ads and higher sub prices!

[@mkkrupp2462]

I’d rather watch limited series these days - as you can’t be sure that multi season mini series won’t end up being cancelled before the story is completed.

[@movie_av_impulse]

This is why I love my physical media.. 1,700+ movies that I love to enjoy... I cut most of my streaming services only a few left for my wife and kids. It was way too much a month. We're down to 3, Hulu, peacock, and Paramount Plus. All the other streaming services are gone

[@Arander92]

Why Paramount+, if I may ask? If Inhad to start up the chopping block, P+ would be one of the first to go

[@movie_av_impulse]

@@Arander92 there is a lot of shows in movies that my kids watch on there. If it were up to me it would be on the chopping block as well. I think peacock has more to offer, especially for WWE fans. And Hulu. I do enjoy some of their original content. But if I could, I would give the ax to all the streaming services and just live off of my physical media collection. I could watch TV shows or movie for the next 2 and 1/2 years and maybe I would peek out on my collection.

[@Arander92]

@@movie_av_impulse I see. Perhaps I’m simply biased. I’m currently harboring a deep hatred for P+ for ruining Halo with the Halo show, and other than Bar Rescue and Top Gun Maverick (which I’ve seen like 6 times already) there’s really nothing on there that’s worth keeping for me. And while I am pissed about Netflix’s password sharing crackdown, unfortunately it’s too essential. There’s always SOMETHING interesting to watch on Netflix(the power of licensing content), and I’m still waiting for Arcane season 2, not to mention Stranger Things 5

[@terminator12cbw]

When Netflix declared that sharing accounts outside one's household was prohibited, it initially upset me. Subsequently, when Prime began billing me, and then further required additional payments for most shows, my frustration escalated significantly. The situation worsened a few weeks ago when they asked me to pay an extra three dollars a month. At that point, I felt pushed to my limit and resorted to pirating content instead.

[@kc9kel]

you'd be appalled at what my disabled no-antenna friend pays for RCN cable. the taxes and fees alone would almost pay for HULU... which Might be OK ... IFF the graphics were not so Tiny.... ... so it amuses me to hear someone complain about $3 when folks with no other options pay over $150 for cable . .. quit yer whinin'...

[@jeviltheJester-y3z]

@@kc9kel funny when a mr know it all plays fgor corperate greed

[@Mellissa-u1x]

​@@kc9kel hey the guy has a legitimate complaint, and if your friend wants to pay 150 for cable that's his choice, and I understand having a small income and being disabled myself

[@jmp622]

Amazon streaming now charging for no ads for $3 with crap content is ridiculous

[@kc9kel]

hmm. but. if you don't / can't have an antenna ... cable is a must if you want access to local channels, sports... and if you're visually challenged and used to a Simple channel guide ... those I've seen on streaming services are not not. user-friendly IMHO ... graphics are too darn Small. .. I need a guide I can See, anyone hava suggestion? .and.. dis guy's just droning on and on... not impressive ...

[@The_Thought_Exchange]

Right I was watching and saw an ad and was like am I on prime? After they already raised the price!!

[@tiloalo]

​@kc9kel On Sony TVs there is a channel guide that covers cable but also streaming channels.

[@privatecitizen1246]

The second they added the "pay to get rid of commercials, and ALL shows will have commercials now" a few months ago, I called Amazon and CANCELLED the app. I kept Prime, but since I no longer do the app, they refunded me $80 of the $140 Prime bill.

[@Chatta-Ortega]

Amazon's content is a shadow of its former self. It's massively declined.

[@royaltyfreemusiccollective8662]

And meanwhile all the hardcore pirates have switched to streaming sites with every show imaginable from all platforms and no ads

[@bodigames]

Those streaming sites do contain ads when you click on play tho….. but after some pop ups you’re good to go.

[@royaltyfreemusiccollective8662]

@@bodigamesIt depnds how good your Ad-Blockers are

[@KeyJayHD]

Unless you're looking for sports, good pirates don't use streaming websites 😉

[@Trippy_Space_Bunny]

We have KZbin premium perpetual, and one other streaming service which rotates right now we're on Crunchyroll. As far as I'm concerned, if I have to pay for a streaming service and I still have to watch ads it gets added to the do not use list and I will not subscribe again. I have been getting physical copies of any movies or shows that I really like if they are available (which is hardly ever). Begs the question when the rich people have all the money how are they going to get more? There's way too much freaking corporate greed in this country.

[@westbccoast]

Netflix thought I would return after they started enforcing watching in the same house and no sharing of passwords, if anything they pushed me further away to find out better ways to stream content without a subscription. I was a loyal Netflix subscriber for over 10 years and was willing to pay since my daughters watched Netflix, as soon as they announced I canceled Netflix and haven't looked back since. Just pure greed and here we are today

[@WaltherKentzler]

I work in digital advertising and it’s terrifying all the info these companies have on us. I was once pitched digital ads on Tizen and those guys know so much about one person with their TV. I love Samsung TV’s but ads are so invasive now. All my TV’s are offline and prefer using Apple TV.

[@c0rnd0g_19]

100%

[@beaniemac]

I use apple tv exclusively because of this as well

[@vroom6490]

That sounds good to me but don’t understand. Wouldn’t the Apple TV be Online?

[@WaltherKentzler]

@@vroom6490Apple TV is online but it doesn't have ads and it doesn't give the information back to Samsung. I guess Apple is the one tracking, but compared to Samsung, I trust them more.

[@shawn.credit]

@@vroom6490They don’t collect your data the same way or at all.

[@Roxywilde82]

I believe there is such a thing as TOO much choice when it comes to entertainment. I've gone the route of no streaming services at all and just sticking to the old school physical media. At least these are moves/shows I truly love.

[@jameswatson5807]

You folks are lucky you have too much choice that you are so spoiled moaning about having to much choice. In the 90s UK we had only 4 TV stations, had to watch boring as programmes because. They had very little I like, I remember watching cooking shows to pass the time, it was once in a blue moon we would get anime and that was late in the night. We live in an age you can watch what you want.

[@jamessullenriot]

A year ago I bought a NAS and have 32TB of storage. I don't get ads and it doesn't take things away from me

[@swagathshetty]

I bought a phone which supports a microsd card and added a 1tb card alongside the 256gb already there All of my fav series and movies are locked and loaded

[@juddaustin399]

But you gotta pay for that content too. Is not free, unless you're stealing it. And now you have to manage file storage etc. It's nice for you but it's an overly complex system for many

[@geraldmcmullon2465]

I have been off air recording for later viewing for 45 years. I transferred to hard drive storage in a just in case to ever wanting to see a TV programme or series again. 110Tb and growing. I remove ads before sitting back to watching. If all commercial content was available for micropayments I could save the bother, but sometimes I just search for a clip, a segment to show someone or remind myself of a scene without needing the entire series or film to watch but to scan through. I don't see that working on line because the feature could not be costed.

[@jamessullenriot]

@@juddaustin399 read the fine print from these companies, paying for downloaded content is not owning. Thus, by my own personal terms of service, torrenting is not stealing

[@ebradley2357]

I buy DVD lots off ebay, pull out the good ones, rip them to MP4s, and put that on my NAS so I can access the content anywhere. I also have a OTA DVR and pull content off that and load it onto the NAS. I'm probably average in technical ability but it's not that complicated and I figured it out. So that's definitely the way to go!

[@rickrounds5150]

Studies show that the older TV shows and sitcoms consistently draw the largest audience. Why, because the new 'entertainment' is just a bunch of dark crap.

[@bmasters1981]

NBC's modern-day Chicago series is very much that compared to Emergency! of the 70s-- it's because the Chicago series has far too much romantic filler and other junk, whereas Emergency! just got right to it and was just about what it set out to be.

[@kennymann55]

Well, I think you nailed it with your analysis of where the streaming market is going. The only thing that really upset me about the direction is the resubscribe fee you mentioned. I've been pretty happy subscribing to an extra service or two per month and then canceling after I've watched everything I want to see on that service. In fact I cancel it the same day I subscribe so I don't forget. So my bill has been significantly less than it used to be on cable. But as you mentioned this could change. I really enjoy your videos. They're so thoughtful and thorough.

[@Zenn3k]

Hmm, I wanna watch movie "X", I pay for 3 streaming services, after checking all 3, movie cannot be found. To go Pirate Bay, find and download and start watching movie in 1080p high def in less than 10 minutes. Why am I paying for streaming services again??

[@kevinreyes8517]

So you don’t go to jail

[@Zenn3k]

@@kevinreyes8517 I've been pirating movies, music, and games for literally 25 years at this point, my ISP warned me about it once...and never again. Soooo, yeah, not worried.

[@bgalloway7199]

The problem isn’t the workers trying to get fairly paid, it’s the corporate board and investors.

[@jaykuhn1764]

"Fairly" paying workers does not fund innovation. The companies are now jumping on the ads bandwagon and us consumers have the power to follow or unsubscribe. Time to get outside more!

[@bgalloway7199]

@@jaykuhn1764 how is putting ads on everything innovation? I’m not saying that fairly paid workers are the answer to everything, that last comment was more to Caleb kinda blaming the strikes for the current predicament. But the ones creating the stories and shows that people like were the ones on the picket line. It would be nice if people can criticize without the obligatory insult.

[@dgrblue4162]

Say hello to Capitalism

[@bgalloway7199]

@@dgrblue4162 I am familiar, have lived with capitalism all my life as I’m sure you have. What are you trying to say? You’re presenting me a half-formed counterpoint like I’m the one with faulty reasoning. Can I not criticize a system I see flaws in, seeking proactive responces? I think it’s better than being lazy, uncritically accepting what is fed you, handing out fake critiques, and being just reactive. Capitalism really only benefits the wealthy, and we are in wealthy countries.

[@jaykuhn1764]

@@bgalloway7199 Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other. But that is beside the point for this video Capitalism means that anybody incl corporations pursue profits by offering products and services others are willing to pay for. In socialism you would not even get a choice to walk away. And the great thing is that you can become an owner of such corporations and get a piece of their profit by investing in them. Only in capitalism

[@TransportSimulatorNationTSN]

I'm Still rocking with cable

[@TomaszRykala]

For me the biggest loss of the streaming revolution was the lack of the DVD Extras. I loved geeking out on those :)

[@Jamessmith-xk3fh]

That's why I love DVDs because you can get full episodes and not lose out on content because it might offend people now. I love my anniversary blue ray box set of Back To The Future because it has loads of extras

[@romanseano]

A "re-subscribe fee" model won't be tenable for streaming services. First, in the most consumer protection-driven jurisdictions like California, it will fall under their "bogus service fee" laws - so it'll be game over before it even starts in these states. But even without those bans, I think such a move would read like a deterrent to the consumer: Penalizing your customer for wanting to come back to you? That's a really bad look. These providers want that revenue too much to risk turning people away right when they're ready to pay.

[@camerastooge]

Someone else on the internet had brought up the idea of a minimum subscription length -- the annual plan is the only option, but broken into monthly payments (maybe they would offer a discount if you paid it all upfront). But by clicking subscribe, you were agreeing to that 12-month contract. I think that's more likely than a resub fee.

[@pfeilspitze]

Re-sub certainly won't happen, but they'll make cancelation have a fee *somehow*. Even if it's "you have to phone our under-staffed call centre to cancel early".

[@PhilipCockram]

I recently purchased a new Sony Blu Ray player . One of the reasons people became fed up with using discs was the ADVERTISING on them , Its bad enough that we had to pay $25 for the movie , but having to suffer NON- SKIPPABLE ads was and is UNACCEPTABLE .

[@erik_dk842]

That's why I ripped some of my own boughts DVD's, so I could avoid the ads and the "do not copy" unskippable crap.

[@marco1173]

I just ended up cancelling everything and turning off the TV. Screw them. Went back to physical media -- and free from my local library to boot. Never looked back.

[@Martial-Mat]

The problem is people who continue to pay for appalling service.

[@donny1960]

Maybe to them is not appalling. Ever think of that? You are not bound to watch anything. Don't blame those that enjoy what they get. There is no obligation what so ever to try and appease you.

[@Martial-Mat]

@@donny1960 That is a terrible argument. Some people may enjoy literal dog poop instead of the food they paid for. Should the rest of us set our standards so low because they enjoy something dreadful?

[@donny1960]

@@Martial-Mat You negate your own argument. You enter the conversation as if you and only you know the difference about everything. "Standards" in tastes and gaming experience is relative. This debate is long over. Somehow Civilization survived some people disliking a computer game. It was close but we pulled through. Do or don't buy or play or even acknowledge the existence of whatever you want. Those that do....do. Those that do not....... Whine about it.

[@Martial-Mat]

@@donny1960 Taste in gaming may vary, (and I think the word you were looking for is "subjective" not "relative", but there are broad consensuses about what makes a good game, otherwise reviews would be pointless, and bad games would never bomb. "Those that do....do. Those that do not....... Whine about it." That really is a quite spectacularly flaccid line of reasoning. By this, anyone who is unsatisfied with anything is a whiner, and anyone who accepts garbage, is a doer. Can you genuinely not see anything wrong with that line of reasoning?

[@markh351]

I cancelled my Amazon Prime membership a month ago in direct response to the $3 upcharge to remove ads and to get Atmos back. It was more about principle than anything else with all of the streaming services out there now and prices creeping up unless you want to see ads. It is indeed like cable TV all over again. I will only usually have one or two streaming services at a time and generally for no more than three months at a time. I don't usually have anything in the summer months. Glad I built up a physical media collection over time and hung on to it.

[@bobwitmer2492]

I did the same and also stopped buying from Amazon. I know it won’t make a difference though because most people won’t. The reality is that most of us have been throwing money away on monthly subscriptions that we’re not getting value from. I don’t watch that much TV so it’s cheaper for me to buy a series and watch it in a month or two. A lot of people would rather play video games or find other hobbies. The streaming services might think they can keep raising prices and reducing the value (ads) but they’re likely going to find out they can’t. I hope their bubble bursts.

[@dan797]

I canceled my prime because of commercial free upcharge

[@xechs88]

I still need Prime because in my country it's hard to getting shipping from arrow or other physical media. Only walmart has physical media all the mom pop stores bestbuy etc don't support physical media anymore.

[@markh351]

@@xechs88 That's totally fair.

[@kurtturner5703]

Amazon serves the rural community where we can get products we normally can’t find. I rather not see ads anywhere, but it is a slight inconvenience to me. Amazon keeps me from having to go in a Walmart so that is worth a lot to me.

[@tdogg8291]

Ima go back to buying dvds. I'll watch what i want when i want without ads. Simple.

[@CastIronEric]

Dude you ain't kidding. I am so sick and tired of having to pay for everything and have ads.

[@bobrunge7594]

As soon as I’m out of this condo and down to Florida… a TV antenna will be raised. I wonder if they have one in the shape of a middle finger…?

[@Th3beav]

I wish. I'm in range of plenty of stations but the town I live in is in a steep river valley so can only pick up 1 station even with a rooftop. I would love to go back to over the air free broadcasts

[@weird-guy]

Can´t talk about about amerca but fta channels on my country sucks and are only 7 channels ,only two are private the rest is own by our public broadcaster and is morning shows,news afternoon shows,news,soup operas,maybe a usa serie at midnight,teleshooping then rinse and repeat on rtp1,sic,tvi then rpt2 has mostly kids block and documentaries, rtp memoria is their old shows and the artv is the parlament channel

[@donny1960]

Unless you live in the swamps. Homeowner associations will send you a letter telling you all about antennas. It will come in the shape of a Middle Finger.

[@donvedio]

Over the years I have collected over 2,000 DVD and Bluray discs. Now happy I did not get rid of them when streaming started. Streaming is just getting to expensive for ad free services. The golden days of streaming did not last very long.

[@nofunberg]

The cost of cable and satellite has gone up a lot. Until recently my parents were paying close to $200/mo for DirectTV. It wasn’t even the biggest package. Absurd.

[@dirtydmack]

Verizon wanted me to pay 270 a month.

[@JJFlores197]

Yep. My last 2 bills I was paying $240/month to Comcast for TV, internet, and home phone. They upped the price from about $180 to about $200 months ago, then they went up to $213 for a few months and then bam, $240 for no change in service. It was absurd.

[@svr5423]

@@JJFlores197 omg. Moving soon to a new flat, where I pay 40 CHF (around 50ish USD) monthly for 10Gbit/s internet. Has everything I need.

[@glynnjohnson3531]

Had Direct Tv for 30 odd years. When they raised the cost for their Choice Package (not the highest) I called to speak to a supervisor to complain about the cost. Tried 3 times on 3 different days. Never got a supervisor so I quit. Gave them back their 8 satellite boxes and took the 2 satellite dishes off my house. There is a limited to how much people will pay for Television. What good is 500 channels if you use only 3 to 5 channels and still have to watch minutes and minutes of the same stupid commercials - over and over again. I was late to the party in terms of streaming services. Got the lowest cost Netflix. Then Netflix raised the prices of their tiers. WTF!

[@josepha.r5839]

Not absurd. Criminal.

[@gregmckenna3858]

I canceled my Amazon Prime because I got tired of paying to see ads and them telling me that I can pay to watch this and that.

[@sathlin]

Criterion channel, Kanopy (totally free with no ads) But physical always the king.

[@SuperMachead1]

This is why I got Apple TV …my Toshiba firetv starts up by showing me an ad…I don’t want stuff pushed on me…so I spent $150 on an Apple TV …now I can set up the Home Screen the way I want ….and no advertisement 😊

[@tails300]

I love my Apple TV, I got my mom and dad one too and they love theirs.

[@Tracerm17]

You've summed up everything my friends and I have complained about regarding streaming TV. I remember years ago one of my old bosses was telling me how TV would never be the same after streaming, and I just told him to wait because the cable tv model made too many people rich to just abandon it. There's all these "competing" services but when was the last time one of them cut prices to try to get or keep viewers? They all just raise prices at the same time. I also think many will emulate AMC's practice of not letting people see old episodes so they can't binge and quit, or only make past episodes available on more expensive plans. Right now I mute through ads out of frustration and refusing to let them "win" but remember that black mirror episode where they were surrounded by advertising and penalized them for muting....

[@TheMcGuireLife]

Screw streaming, that stinks you have to pay a premium for HD and 4K. I’m ageist streaming.” Thank god I have dish, I got the Hopper 3 Whole home DVR. I have 7 movies I recorded and saved my my DVR,” I can watch them anytime I want!!