How Streaming Ruined the Music Industry (sort of)

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[@ARTV-]

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[@meeper8365]

I LOVE this new format

[@dylkill8669]

ARTV I’m curious if you’re aware of the Music Modernization Act or not. It’s purposefully supposed to fix the problems of current music copyright laws, especially in the streaming age.

[@caesarorzell600]

Interesting topic, awesome video! Love you both! ❤❤

[@zayn2476]

This video was great. Thanks for making it, I’ve been in despair at the state of industry and most of all felt sad at the fact I thought no one else could see what was going on but it’s great to see so many people sharing the same views and realising what’s going on so it’s not an entirely hopeless and lost generation which was a scary idea I almost got sucked into

[@Collinzmusic]

I love the last minute of your video where you are on about the individual sending an artist a tweet, it's hard for myself as an artist also to get people to hear my stuff but when I receive messages like that it means the world and feels like what I do is worth doing, Thanks for making this video 🙏

[@RockedNet]

If anyone in ANY career was only making 12% of the total profit to a company, when that person was the MAIN reason the money comes in and all, that person would quit on the spot. The music industry has a stranglehold on every musician and band that isn't already established.

[@RealHomeRecording2]

Well, you don't have to sign to a record label. Good luck making a career out of it. 12% of 1 million dollars = $120,000. How many musicians would like to be earning $120,000/year, as an example?

[@davidadams2395]

@@RealHomeRecording2 Does that $120,000 go to each member in a band, or is it split?

[@shadieossei4336]

@@davidadams2395 t gets split because based on the publishing deal each member of the band wrote or contributed to part of the song

[@sozboy1]

The saddest part is probably that we don’t get many classic-eligible albums anymore.

[@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125]

S. There're albums in the underground that can be deemed classic someday.

[@lostdilettante]

Th.El.Co._1 Thats not true at all, there’s been plenty of well regarded albums in this year alone. Maybe some of mainstream culture is backing away from albums but most artists and bands don’t. There’s plenty of discussion on albums if you just look at the right places. And what kind of person listens to an album on shuffle!?

[@CynicalScorpio]

Um... Kids See Ghosts, To Pimp A Butterfly, A Moon Shaped Pool, After Laughter, ext. There will always be new and innovative albums that will be considered classics in the future. The only reason older decades seem like they have more classics is because the bad/mediocre stuff gets forgotten. Same will happen for our current decades, and people in the 2050's will act like the 2010's had more classic albums.

[@angel127_]

jorja smith's album? oh my god its amazing

[@gabeng60]

Personal favourite album this year is Artificial selection which ive been listening non stop

[@legendbtv]

I actually still love buying TBH.

[@legendbtv]

Brandon Collins to support artists. I don't buy everything though. Only what I truly like

[@LoekTheKing]

@Brandon Collins Why would you listen to the shitty-compressed audio on KZbin or pay 10 dollars a month to listen Spotify music in 320 kpbs or, if you don't pay, listen to it in 160 kpbs?! I need CD quality!

[@corbinm5237]

Brandon Collins if you only listen to a handful of bands/artists and rarely care to broaden your horizons,there’s no need for monthly payments for ad free streaming. Better to just make a one time payment for the song or album instead of pay monthly to listen to the same music over and over again.

[@LoekTheKing]

Corbin M I agree.

[@xjadit7826]

As a musician my self music streaming frustrates me it’s something that realy excites me as it makes it so much easier for people to find my music but at the same time it terrifies me cause if people have access to pretty much all music at the push of a button why would they bother listening to me hell how would they notice me at all when there’s so many other bands and artists out there especially when it’s all the terrible ones that get the spotlight and even if they do I’m gonna make no money from it I mean no I don’t do it for. Money I don’t cause I love music but that’s not the point I’d love music to be my job full time one day but I’d get nothing from putting my music out there and where I live none of the local Venus actually pay artists unless there relatively established and being people in to watch

[@secondavenger9775]

You'll make it eventually if you work hard. Like you said yourself, it's easier than ever to discover new artists. People who have patience, talent and at least some know-how about marketing have an easier time than ever of building a fanbase without a label's hand in your pocket. Don't give up on the hussle, you will get your spoils in the end.

[@xjadit7826]

Second Avenger oh I have no plan on giving up I just don’t like the uncertainty streaming has both massively improved the industry And massively screwed it over I don’t particularly want to be famous but it seams the only way to actually make any money through music nowadays

[@xjadit7826]

Some Asshole no I know I’m not saying it wasn’t hard before but if someone tried hard enough they would get noticed eventually now you just get swallowed in a sea of talentless crap if you don’t follow the trends or are the best of the best you won’t get noticed

[@shadieossei4336]

You don't necessarily have to be famous in order to make a decent money off of your music. I understand that there as so many talented artists on streaming platforms as well as terrible artists but the inability of streaming platforms to separate great music from the noise and promote those great songs to millions of audience is their shortcoming. Look out for distribution companies that have the potential to promote and sell music of talented unknown artists to millions of people and don't be afraid to sign off your music rights to them because at the end of the day, we all need each other and are all routing for each others success. Companies with good intentions are not out there to screw you. Good Luck!

[@speedystu100]

This is why I refuse to sign up for streaming services like Apple Music and Spotify. I may need to pay a little more for downloads or physical copies, but at least it’s a better way to support the artists making my favourite songs

[@assaltshaker6746]

I want to share this little story I had written on for you. The first video I've ever watched from you is your 7 biggest problems on today's pop music, and ever since then, I've beginning to enjoy your content more and more, since you are completely genuine and passionate towards your content in general. Not only that, but you've also got into many types of music and it quickly became my passion alongside with drawing down my creativity. Anyways, this is all I have to say.

[@ARTV-]

Aw, I'm happy to hear that! Thank you!

[@assaltshaker6746]

I'm the same here with you.

[@assaltshaker6746]

ARTV I'm glad for the respond you have send me. Also, can I use your 6 advice to expand your music taste video? I'm planning using it when I teach children in elementary, middle or high school in the future to so they can explore other types of music.

[@JessicaH005]

I made an entire 8 page essay on this subject for my 8th grade writing class, so you can say that I definitely have an opinion on this subject.

[@sugarhoneybee2979]

Pilots Falling! At the Disco you gonna... say your opinion? No?

[@JessicaH005]

basicallyjustlivestoargue Oh, sorry. My research and my opinions are very similar to what’s seen/heard in this video.

[@sugarhoneybee2979]

Pilots Falling! At the Disco oh ok haha I was confused

[@ShadyGabe]

I would’ve love to read the essay tbh

[@Wieringenn]

We think that the value of music in streaming has decreased dramatically at the time. In the Netherlands, we are doing research into new forms of streaming and other types of models such as profit machines in the music industry. We would like to read your essay on this subject if you have permission to do so.

[@ForeRunnerODST]

Thanks for making this video. I'm getting tired of people saying "streaming has made music better than ever, you can listen to dozens of albums a day", while it's true that more music is easier to obtain, it doesn't make up for all the negatives that have happened due to it. People that are blindly advocating streaming are actively ruining the medium without knowing it

[@coffeeintheface]

Law of Diminishing Returns.

[@dalewindeckerjr.3663]

The editing in this video is great, awesome work Jon, really liking the way your videos are coming out lately

[@legendbtv]

Streaming is making people think all modern music is trash

[@zayn2476]

LegendBTV most of it is though…

[@thisismyname5657]

Zayn Nothing new then. There's always been a shit ton of terrible music. It's just a lot easier to find with the internet.

[@mitchandrew5637]

I agree streaming has hands modern music terrible

[@peterwood-jenkins3634]

a lot is written by idiots so of course its bad

[@bedshaped85]

I agree. No longer interested in most Top 40 music since the proliferation of streaming. It all sounds the fucking SAME.

[@hellonurd8957]

I carry a CD player w/ me now. Of only because I'm tired of downloading songs. I realize how pretentious that statement may sound, but IDK I've just always preferred buying physical music. I also enjoy hearing an album track by track a lot more instead of a random shuffle. You made a lot of fantastic points here Jon! Keep up the awesome content.

[@remyvilleneuve4879]

Hello!Nurd i always buy cd or buy on itunes. I can’t stand streaming services

[@Kendallhess]

I carry a CD player, too!

[@sethmishne]

me too but i still import cds to my computer. but unfortunately one of my favorite artists album still run by wet is available only on vinyl and download which makes me super sad. i will miss when cds go away.

[@carrolllynn4077]

I admit I do use streaming services but I love and prefer using CDs. I've always collected and played CDs ever since I was younger. This works better for me because I can rip my CDs to my computer and add it to my phone or MP3 and then connect that to my car radio or speaker and not have to worry about ads or skipping through an album. CDs are something I'm always going to prefer no matter how old I get.

[@helena-iu6lx]

seth mishne I've always hoped that CDs never go out of style like vhs tapes did, but lately (with streaming and digital download and all) I've been starting to worry.

[@BrightLifeVideos]

yes, some things are / have been changing rapidly... i have always collected cd's from my favourite artists and now i got a turntable for my 18th birthday, which means i can support my beloved bands / artists even through buying records!! plus, i love attending concerts of course! but i can also totally understand that people enjoy having their favourite music at their finger tips 24/7.

[@shikiguro]

This video is fantastic! Really well done! I always pre-order albums and buy merch. If I love an artist a lot then I’ll pay to see a show. I do it to show my support for the artists I love. Also because it’s fun to collect records and CD’s!!

[@46tool25]

Yeah john thanks for speaking up,I have recently hit more than 90 CDs,and 16 cassettes Digital is very different,it's not something YOU own,u don't hold it in your hand,no cover art or lyrics, It's in the screen

[@ImTheKat1]

Wow this is such a great video. I definitely learned a lot from it and glad that you both (Jon & Hannah) shared this project. Streaming is definitely here to stay, but I wish there was a way that more genres can be recognized

[@shadieossei4336]

More genres will eventually be recognized and it is not gonna be through streaming, but through a new disruptive company with a revolutionary business model and a new plan for the music industry!

[@michaelcali8304]

I still buy cd’s and records and recently bought a personal CD player lol. I do this in part because 2 of my favorite artists aren’t streaming at all (Tool and King Crimson). I’m so glad Amazon and Discogs exist! Honestly the whole streaming taking over music frustrates the hell out of me. The thing I hate the most about it is that I understand why people use it out of convenience, it just happens to be at the literal expense of the artist. If a band make music worth listening to outside of the singles why not do them a solid and actually purchase their album?

[@subhaan7861]

I know you mean over past 6 years streaming has been doing my head in and most of the artists i listen to dont chart anymore all because of stream the UK Singles Charts have been full of crap over the past 5 or 6 years now. There a group from the Uk where am from a huge fan of he was really Big in the Early 10s he had 8 top 10 Singles 15 Top 40 Hits 2 Number 1 Singles in 2011 and a Number one Album all his Albums went to Number 1 on the UK Dance Charts he was really until Streaming Came that Ruined it all and most other artists from tha era. And i agree with you about buying Cds i still do aswell and i still download music on to my phone i dont use like Streaming i just do the Way people used to do back in the 00s and early 10s. And buying cds is a really good thing cuz it could come really handy like if you want to meet like your favourite artist and have like a picture you need to get like a cd signed like you cant just say to artist who i streamed your album hear sign my phone or tablat or whaever.

[@remyvilleneuve4879]

I think the streaming services does not only affect badly the artist on a monetary level, they also change the way we consume music. Before, you needed to go to a place and use money to buy albums at music store. When you are too young to have a job(me), you need to economise to buy cd. This make me crave the cd I want and when I finally own it, I feel lucky to have it and I appreciate it more. After several years of buying cd, I discovered that i prefer the music I bought myself to the music my parents already had in their collection. When using spotify, it is like taking music for granted. I am seriously afraid of the future of the music industry.

[@theabacross1581]

I still buy CDs and Vinyl when i can i love having physical copies of albums

[@sophiem118]

Also I really like to collect CD's and support my favorite artists. I think that the trend of record players and vinyls will help the artists if it continues to be something that people like to own.

[@The2010golakers]

Streaming music is okay but I like having my favorite music physically and in my collection.

[@The2010golakers]

I also have my own iTunes library which has all my cds converted.

[@callumhemmings5215]

Wow, at first i disagreed with Jon about streaming wen is aw this notification, but damn hes right, streaming has made things a bit too easy for low talent rappers to get famous, and actual talented oeople are still struggling

[@kingzod8536]

They are both struggling at a similar rate, this system actually when you look at it makes it so good talent, gets more popular then bad talent.

[@TrackXTrack]

Great job, Jon! (And Hannah, too!) Great editing and production, and GREAT content! I agree with you 100% on this one. For better or worse, though, streaming is here to stay. I just hope something will happen to help artists get their fair share in a way listeners will support.

[@shadieossei4336]

Nothing lasts forever buddy and I don't believe paid subscription streaming will stay forever. When digital downloads came into the scene and replaced CD's and Albums, everyone thought it will stay forever but no one predicted streaming. The music industry keeps on changing constantly and new business models will take over soon that will be better than paid subscription streaming as well as give artists their fair share of royalties. I believe the future of the music industry is bright for both artists and music consumers!!!

[@rct3isepic]

Just wanna say, a clip of this was used by the Daily Show when talking about how fucked up streaming is for musicians

[@teacherlucas9982]

Streaming may be here forever, I don't care I still buy CDs, Vinyls and cassettes.

[@spacemonkeymadness]

Have you ever thought of reviewing unsigned artists? I’m sure there’s tons of artists that would be glad to submit their material.

[@TokyoBlue587]

UFOMG333 Oh, I like this idea

[@arcanemaster8722]

Great well made video. I strongly agree with all of the things said in this video. It’s kinda sad how all of these album bombs are pushing a lot of great songs outs of the Billboard Hot 100. Modern Hit Music is leading into an utter demise.

[@eliotwolfert8488]

I clicked on this video thinking i would strongly disagree, but i completely agree with you. I do love spotify, as my music listening has broadened significantly, at a fraction of the cost of buying music on amazon music or itunes. I do frequently go to concerts and collect vinyl to support the artists that i love most

[@sophiem118]

This was so well put together and thought out! I really liked this video and its visuals! Nice change up from your normal reviews and I'm glad you spoke about this topic since it's such a big part of the music industry today.

[@BG12sofia]

No wonder I've been turning into 80's music lately. Mainstream music nowadays doesn't satisfy me anymore, now I know why. The funny thing is I have gotten a lot into streaming over the past year, but at the same time, I started buying CDs again. Mainly because my car can't connect to my phone, but also because it's harder for me to enjoy an album on streaming -- because of the ads and the temptation to add other songs to the queue.

[@thisismyname5657]

I recommend checking out Franz Ferdinand's Always Ascending album. It came out this year but it has a lot of influence from 80's music like New Wave.

[@shspurs1342]

This Is My Name New wave came out around 1977.

[@marcels_wine9602]

Dang really impressed with the layout of the video, definitely not disappointed here

[@remardspeccolownie981]

Dang, you and Hannah did really good work on this video!

[@brittanybutlermusic]

Love this! Very accurate. 😩 Thanks for bringing this to light!

[@mrc-rrn]

Great Video!! 🤘🏻 not too long but still very informative

[@davidfc7136]

I still buy physical albums if I really love the album. I buy merch too, if I like the design and to support my favorite artists. Loved this video essay Jon, keep em coming!

[@kaystar7741]

Great video! I personally don’t use streaming but I found this to be very insightful. Appreciate how you had solid points and balance out the negative with the positive. Also shoutout to Hannah for the top notch and on point editing!

[@DuffyLONER64]

I'll admit, I do stream albums rather than buy them. But that's mostly because I'm only 16 and I can't use my parent's money willy-nilly buying albums. When I get to the age that I have my own credit card, what I'd do is buy the albums on, say, iTunes, and then listen to it on Spotify (since I like Spotify a bit better). Also, if I really like the album, I'll go out of my way to buy a physical copy of it (I do this now, even), so the artist still gets money and support from me. Also, I really hope that this changes sometime soon.

[@iwanhynds2794]

Hi it

[@zayn2476]

I think the most common model is to stream and buy your favourites on vinyl. iTunes is still unfair to artists, they take a huge cut, then the label takes a cut and the artist is still left with little. It’s better to buy records from independent music shops and buy the artists merchandise. Plus the vinyl experience is how music should be, you pay £9.99-£15 get a huge record with nice art to keep and you get an experience that digital doesn’t offer. Plus the analogue sound isn’t compressed. You can get a CD and have a similar experience but the music is compressed, the album art isn’t as big and the feeling isn’t the same

[@shadieossei4336]

I am hopeful that a new company will soon emerge and cause a drastic dynamic shift in music consumption which will work in favor of talented artists as well as make music fans also happy and satisfied. I believe that revolution is coming soon!!!

[@farrahschneider]

I saw the sneak peek on Twitch and I love the video so much excellent points that you made Jon

[@oliviaharris1198]

This video was really well done and articulated my thoughts on the matter really well. I think streaming let’s anyone be able to listen to all kinds of music and expand their taste to something they probably wouldn’t have listened to before, but streaming probably does more harm than good. It’s just sad how stale the charts are now. Also how talented artists aren’t as mainstream/ slash given the same exposure they probably could’ve gotten in the past. I’d really love to see more video essays (I get they take a lot of work) they’re probably my favorite videos by you, and I think a throwback beatles review would be awesome 😎

[@natzablah7627]

This was such a great video. Not a lot of people talk about the down side of streaming services. As a young artist, releasing music and putting it out there seems impossible. Great video!! Keep it up!

[@matthewelert]

I hadn't really thought much about this topic before but a lot of this stuff is right on the nose. Awesome video!

[@shspurs1342]

Matthew Elert Roger Waters Can’t stand Spotify.

[@MyWillToBreathe]

This was a very professionally done video and I agree with many of the points you made!!! This is an interesting period in the course of humanity with how the internet has come to life over just the last two decades. It will be interesting to see how artists overcome much of the oversaturation brought on by streaming and find new ways to have popularity instead of conventional means.

[@vickyvrecka4829]

A yummy video essay. Yum

[@lauraregen]

I LOVE informative videos! This one was so well put together!

[@Chris-lh7wj]

I remember when everyone was freaking out about napster, but truth is napster has nothing on streaming and i'm certain musicians were making much more than 12% even with people stealing their music. Turns out you just needed a business license to steal it legally.

[@caseyjones3522]

without napster streaming wouldn't exist. The streaming model is literally competing for free pirating. pirating is the problem

[@RichEDMixed]

I don't stream and honestly think it's BS I still by CDs cause that's how it should be and Ik it's weird hearing this from a guy who just turned 18 not long ago.

[@FallingandRelaxing]

What do u mean that's how it should be?

[@RichEDMixed]

I'm not a fan of streaming and I honestly think getting CD'S or vinyls should be the norm but that's me.

[@RichEDMixed]

@Brandon Collins When you get an album and put it in you get an experience you don't otherwise. On top of that you get some cool art work and the thank you's it feels some much more personal and it truly something unique.

[@TokyoBlue587]

Brandon Collins to support the musicians

[@jakobeboah1]

Wow, I love the new way these videos are! Very cool video, Jon!

[@benceledon4874]

Haha i was just looking at the billboard hot 100 today and thought about how little diversity there was in the charts too and then i saw it in this video, couldn't have put it better myself, great video!

[@rowandavis2061]

Love the editing on this video! 👍

[@_b_e_a_n_s_]

Idk I kinda like buying music instead of just streaming it

[@artificialgummies7416]

Can I just say that this was a REALLY well made video, both content and layout wise. Major props to you and Hannah for this unfortunately true video.

[@Ya_parker]

Caught the world premiere on Twitch. Thanks Jon!

[@ARTV-]

Yeah!

[@mnif001]

I actually stream AND buy albums. I would say the advantage of streaming is making music accessible for audiences who can’t afford a CD.

[@ipeknilboke5650]

Now that I know Apple Music pays more per listening to the artists, I'll keep on subscribing to Apple Music and not Spotify.

[@aodhancollins]

This video was brilliant! The editing was amazing, and the subject matter is very interesting!

[@randomuser9594]

Great video Jon 👍 thx for the info!

[@lamariluz.1604]

Fantastic video: content and editing- wise👍💕

[@JonathanLeon]

Nice video. It's such a mindfuck on how talentless artists are in the charts these day. I still collect CDs though (getting into vinyl soon)

[@conorbyrne3273]

Couldn’t agree more the top 100 is always full of the same techno shit and it annoys me that no effort is put into it

[@artangel16]

as an avid user of Spotify, (and a person who has become really dependant on it, cause it makes it a lot easier for me to search anything I feel like listening) I can definetley see your point in here. Easily one of the worst things that it has done for me is to deteriorate the "album" concept as a whole. And I said it a lot of times, I have the age and I am of the generation of not listening to full albums and most commonly listen to everything on the charts, and the now popular "playlists" which mostly have one song by some random artist you may like and no more (not really my case, even though I like some musicians that have good performances of charts, I do enjoy listening to albums, and never really liked the playlists). It is also very noticiable on how the industry is now trying to sell everything that becomes viral. I mean, you mentioned Bhad Bhabie, an excellent example of that but there you have the Walmart Kid, who even did get a gig on Coachella.

[@Trx-ep7rg]

Good thing is the labels are worth less and less. The same old labels that enslave the artists with unfair deals. The music industry's worth declined enormously in 2000 with Napster and now it's easier to get famous due to internet. One day the labels will die, the money will go straight to the artist

[@aussiemusicfan0298]

Trx 1136 major record labels are the worst. The sooner they go the better

[@laurie-annegagnon9150]

Yes but... buying albums is so expensive. I would not be able to eat if I had to buy every music that I love. Is that bad?

[@fraudulentstuetzle]

This video was amazing! I appreciate all you said. In fact my favourite band (fairly obscure) is having a party at a music venue to release ONE song. It’s totally unnecessary but they’re selling tickets to earn extra money. But I guess that’s how the music industry is. On the other hand I listen to tons of music and I don’t have the money to download all of it. So streaming is my best friend. It’s not the best thing ever, but it’s the best I can do.

[@averin.4932]

Thank you for making this!!!

[@danielcollins9155]

I prefer CDs over streaming and I listen to bands

[@mikemackenzie9131]

A few things: - I REALLY liked the video and would like to see more. Informative and entertaining. - I hate the fact that the "Album" is a forgotten relic at this point. There might be another great song that no one will discover.Have you ever had a friend come over with a CD or Record and be like "Dude!!! I found another song on here that's amazing!!!" - Also liked the fact that you used Spoze during the part of artists trying to bust ass to get through to the big time. Keep up the GREAT work, the both of you!!

[@thisismyname5657]

Albums aren't a forgotten "relic". That claim is ridiculous.

[@mikemackenzie9131]

@@thisismyname5657 Albums as in a cohesive group of songs dont really happen anymore. It's all just songs that are meant to be singles.

[@shspurs1342]

This Is My Name It’s going that way. That’s what he meant.

[@Panacea9]

No, it is a good idea. The delivery isn't there yet and the content limitations though invisible to most are heavy.

[@hal9397]

And jeez this is well-edited keep up the work :)

[@nico_swan]

You ain’t cool, unless you use CD’s and Vinyls 😎😎😎

[@jacobray6604]

I agree 100% with every point you made. I just started collecting vinyl this year. I have a crappy player but I’m going to be improving my setup soon. If anyone has any recommendations on record players and/or speakers at an affordable price I would appreciate it greatly.

[@TokyoBlue587]

Jacob Ray I don't have a record player but Third Man Records (Jack White's own company) offers some players that are most likely good quality since they promote and sell vinyl records

[@jacobray6604]

TokyoBlue cool thank you. I’ll check those out

[@pomarancza6672]

I'm loving this format of a Vid! Good job 😉 also the content of the video was great as usual 😜

[@pomarancza6672]

And about the topic of collecting cd's / vinyl : having Spotify free allowed me to discover music easier and from that it even got me to start collecting hard copies of albums.

[@blank5492]

Thanks for the video! Learned a lot today!

[@zayn2476]

Also just thought I should put out there that the industry has always been unfair. 12% is actually one of the highest proportion artists have received. Even in the heyday of the industry back in the 70s and 80s you’d have top musicians struggling to make a living as labels were taking the biggest cuts. It’s just now the whole industry is screwed over rather than those that sign a bad deal. The Beatles only made something like 1% from each album sale in their initial record contract

[@OxOemobunnyOxO]

I love the format of this video! Keep it cominggg.

[@rchrch4922]

Tbh, the only reason I'm using streaming services, because it's the only thing I can do to support my favourite artist. I'm too broke to afford album, left alone concert

[@GoodGuyChucky-666]

I still like to buy CDs & also pay for Spotify premium, it's great having access to all the music in the world at the touch of the button, I hate how the record labels take huge chunk of the money & the artist only getting peanuts, It's unbelievable nobody has found a solution since the Napster started almost 20 years ago, the music industry is dying, it's a self inflicted death for the music industry for screwing with the artist and the consumer for far too long

[@boring.3486]

Woooow.... so people out here really selling their souls for nothing. Just for 12%. I am going to go to school and focus on stuff of importance. Music and acting can be a hobby. However, after 5:25 I honestly can’t / don’t believe it and I rather have all my money not just some.

[@shadieossei4336]

The fact that talented artists are not making enough money off of their music via streaming doesn't mean music should be just a hobby. If a revolution should happen soon in the music industry and a new way of doing music business becomes adapted to favor artists more, music can be a full-time job for artists who keep working hard. All it takes to make music have real value and for artists to make millions of dollars is for there to be a change in the music industry's business model! A change will come soon!!!

[@lukebrum2360]

I still buy records and cassette tapes

[@wendyharrington3495]

I definitely still do still buy CDs (bought two today). Thank goodness I live in a city that still has indie record stores! That being said, I do stream music (mainly on Spotify). I stream albums that I'm thinking of buying or that I'm just curious about. Both of the CDs I bought today were albums that I streamed first, thanks to NPR and Spotify!

[@LoekTheKing]

I actually thought about this the other day! Interesting video :)

[@hany.jr10]

I wanna start producing music, mainly rock. But after what you said in the video, I’m not so sure. I would appreciate it if you give me some advice, John.

[@TokyoBlue587]

Mohamed Hany Bakr Ghaly I would recommend talking to some producers to get an idea about the industry. Also watch Rick Beato's videos on KZbin, he was a producer for many years and has a very informative channel.

[@bonzodog67lizardking15]

There is only so much money and time anyone can spend on consuming music. And because the quality is low and the quantity is high, it's becoming more and more disposable and forgettable. Older fans are still enjoying the album format on LP and CD. No compression, more quality tracks.

[@Ty-mu7gl]

Jon!! I love your channel!

[@CynicalScorpio]

Great video, I agree with almost everything, except for what you said about the album format suffering. I am actully a big fan of longer tracklists on albums like Scorpion or Astroworld. I don't think albums should always be tethered to the typical 10-15 song album structure. I love the trend of 20+ song tracklists, it makes the album feel grander and more like a journey. Sure, you could argue there is more filler, but it's kind of irrelivant if you think about it. There are plenty of albums with normal tracklists that have the same ratio of filler. For example, a 10 track album with 4 filler tracks is the same ratio as a 20 track album with 8 filler tracks. There's also plenty of normal length albums that have more filler than some of these 20+ song albums. Also what is considered filler is also subjective. Not to mention the longer tracklist is nothing new. The Who's album "Tommy" is 24 tracks, and that was back in the late 60's. It's considered a masterpiece, and I've never heard anyone complaining about it being "too long." There's also been a trend of very short albums that are only 6-7 tracks, like Kids See Ghosts, NIN's Bad Witch, ext.

[@shspurs1342]

Cynical Scorpio My all time Favourite album is The Wall. It has 26 tracks and is over 80 minutes long.

[@ralmcg]

Buying CD's are OK but in the case of label artists most of the money goes to the label and little, if any, goes to the artists. If someone wants to help an artist the best way is to find an artist's website and see if that artist has a web store. If so you can buy a CD or other merchandise there.

[@TokyoBlue587]

I buy the albums I really love on CD or as a digital download. I literally have that same Green Day shirt you showed! I probably spend too much on concert tickets and band merch. I really try to support the bands and artists I love. I liked this video, it was informative with good graphics. You make a lot of good points. I hope the music industry changes to support more actual musicians , but that will only happen when people get tired of the same boring mass produced crap.

[@drphiljoy]

What’s that 8 bit instrumental playing during your title screen

[@geegee6752]

This channel needs a millions subs. We will get there jon. You will get there.

[@RooCrew]

By Far My Fav Video! This is spot on! Me and my friends argue all the time to our friends that don’t understand why rap dominates the sales charts! This video is legit

[@NadiaOnline]

Love this type of video style!

[@mintomax2]

what is missed out in this is while Spotify may bay 7.50 per 1000 streams this in reality does not equate to 1000 times a person listens to the track at all because it is only counted as a stream at 31 seconds in and bearing in mind what a skip culture streaming has turned the public into, in reality you would need more like a 100 thousand to select the track to get the 7.50 off spotify which for many artists is not realistic, the only real earners from streaming is the platform because with the exception of a few major artists both labels and artists earn next to nothings from streaming, however this is also having a detrimental effect in that record companies now will not invest in artists anymore (certainly not to the same level as before streaming) as its likely they will not earn much back from them from people actually listening to their music, instead focus is shifted into things like sponsorship/commercials/merch etc it also effects how artists make music as they will try to cram in as much into the first 30 seconds to stop people skipping leading to more and more songs that are more throwaway then deep meaningful tracks with length. Streaming was a knee jerk reaction to combat piracy and while I admit piracy was not ok and did have a slight damaging effect to the music industry it was nowhere near the detrimental effect streaming has had on the music industry.

[@grandgranger8018]

We love an iconic hardworking KZbin music couple!

[@tjthomas1227]

I'm a fan of this video format. Good job John

[@Jack-ii6iv]

The price the streaming services give varies a lot of artists get bad deals so they don't get much money but you are able to get good deals

[@IvanChernenko]

That's why I have to say one thing - buy a physical copy of album after streaming

[@johncooper4874]

I use Apple Music because of convenience. However, I do hate that there is now a lack of diversity within the charts thanks to streaming. I get that hip-hop is the big trend now but a lot of it is not even good and that's what's being shoved down our throats.

[@matthewroberts3125]

Very well put together.

[@broadlygesturesateverythin94]

See I try to embrace all because the heart in the music is so important. If it’s good, I stream it. If it’s really good, I buy it. If I really really love it, I buy the cd copy If it’s one of my favorite albums ever, I buy a vinyl of it Sometimes I buy just to show appreciation

[@johnp2110]

Thanks for making this video. This help raise awareness.

[@DeathMachineJoe]

I listen to many albums on Spotify and rarely do I ever shuffle unless I'm listening to a playlist of songs I like. If I really enjoy an album, I'll buy a physical CD of it and never listen to it on Spotify unless I'm on a road trip and the car I'm riding in doesn't have a CD player. Speaking of which, cars in the past 2-3 years are not integrating CD players anymore which really irks me.

[@TokyoBlue587]

DeathMachineJoe I still buy CDs because I have an older car with a CD player. When I get a newer car I don't know what I'll do.

[@thisismyname5657]

You can buy albums on your phone using Google Play or iTunes and then plug it into your car and play it that way. If you really like having CDs anyway you can just rip the MP3s onto your phone and listen that way.

[@Astolfo2001]

@@TokyoBlue587 You can get an optical drive and make backups of your cds and put them on your phone so you can listen to them via bluetooth in the car.