why streaming is becoming cable again

[@willstewich]

It was a pleasure to get to sit down and talk about this with a good friend of mine. I think it’s extremely important that not just professionals in my industry but consumers as a whole are educated and informed on topics like this. If you’re going to spend money on content because it provides value to your life, you deserve to know and have a say in the regulations imposed on that content. Keep up the good work Dummy

[@Morisato13]

Everyone should note that Will is an actor and his responses seemed canned and rehearsed.

[@willstewich]

@@Morisato13 nah dog that’s just how I feel

[@magoon993]

Pirate is better. Dah. Its free

[@5226-p1e]

This is essentially what KZbin's trying to be, they're trying to be the everything platform, except recently they seem to be piloting and idea to get rid of well KZbinrs in general, basically this incentivize people who create content in favor of their KZbin premium service which is basically cable TV in a nutshell, and I'm not sure they're going to be able to do it right given how their platform works, although they are the most capable company in the world to do something like this because they are the biggest and they've been doing it for like roughly two decades, they've got the most large server base or videos that were made two decades ago are still being preserved, although I would imagine some of those would be completely erased at some point because KZbin wants to change the website and just turn it into a Cable website basically. Sadly this is where KZbin gets most of its money, so it doesn't exactly make a whole lot of sense to destroy the creators in this sense, KZbin despite their war against ad blockers are making a fuckload of money through ads and it's through people who use Roku or use the general KZbin app, I mean they're war with ad blockers is so silly because less than 1% of the user base uses them, where everyone else uses at least 99% of that on KZbin's actual programs without an ad blocker.

[@5226-p1e]

I mean sure people could also pirate stuff too, but the average person doesn't know how to do that and they're afraid to do that because of viruses and various other things and they're not ready for, so that's also one of those less than 1% of people do this thing, so I think it's funny that they're going after the ad blockers when they're like not even a threat, but whatever treat everyone as a threat meanwhile make it so creators don't want to create stuff anymore because they're getting burnt out and try to turn KZbin into KZbin premium which is essentially cable, but I'm not sure their deal is good enough, see other competition of theirs roughly offer the same things and they have better shows too so I'm not sure KZbin can compete in that arena, also their price is way too high, I think they want you to spend like $80 in full, that's just not going to happen now I understand that people are getting sick and tired of going to Netflix going to Hulu going to all these different stupid services they want to purchase their entertainment in One Singular location and that's the one smart thing KZbin is doing, but I just don't think that what they want to do is going to be what everyone else wants to do, the funny thing is Amazon started doing this like 3 or 4 years ago, of course they had dog shit TV shows and movies to watch, most of them are just throw away shows it's just having shows on their website that people can watch but they were just all trash, the only good shows were the ones that were behind a paywall, what's this so funny because Prime membership is a pay wall itself just to get into the membership but it was a good deal because not only were you going to get slightly cheaper items online and you get free shipping and handling but you also have this added on effect of you can watch shows and movies and listen to music since then they have changed the music and separate it into its own paywall and nobody fucking uses it anyway call me you might as well just go to Spotify for that because it's free, and continue using your ad blocker that's the quiet part out loud.

[@craigmcpherson1455]

It's a little surprising you didn't memtion piracy. During the golden age of streaming, Netflix was offering a better service than the pirates.

[@WaffleSalad]

Fr. I’ve seen a lot more ppl pirating these days whether it’s out of affordability or boycotting certain companies. And I get it. I stopped all my subscriptions and just watch KZbin bc it’s all just too much money. And the fact that you don’t own anything!! I paid for a show on Amazon but since they no longer carry the show I just…. can’t watch it??? I literally paid for it wdym?!! So I totally get why people don’t want to pay for shit they don’t even own

[@PvblivsAelivs]

No it wasn't. How could it. The pirates could simply copy the Netflix service. This is the tension between "information wants to be free" and "information wants to be expensive."

[@craigmcpherson1455]

@@PvblivsAelivs What pirate site could you stream any movie reliably at good quality back then?

[@Boneless6065]

@@craigmcpherson1455 Maybe not stream, but you could easily find and download any movie for free.

[@RandallStevenson]

@@craigmcpherson1455 popcornflix?

[@daviddanglis7135]

"[Ads] do literally make content worse, as you are no longer the primary customer, advertisers are." Yep.

[@Bonanzaking]

I’m always amazed people can’t mentally tune out ads like back in the tv days before the internet. It’d be go get a snack time or take a leak time.

[@coreym162]

Totally what ruined KZbin.

[@denelson83]

That is just one of the published steps of enshittification.

[@VocalMabiMaple]

@@Bonanzaking I used to just straight up not watch tv because of ads. I just watched movies my dad pirated or got movies from the video rental store.

[@cjboyo]

@@BonanzakingWe do. We just don’t want advertisers censoring art

[@avalinah]

"I had streaming since I've been a kid" -- that one sentence aged me so badly

[@jorge5275]

Yep you're a Lil one. A young pup if you will Lol👍

[@BoleDaPole]

Streaming has been around for a long time now, almost 20 years.

[@avalinah]

@@BoleDaPole that is precisely why that comment aged me so much 😂

[@kaitlyn__L]

I know right. I remember it being exciting and new, just as DVDs and CDs were against tapes

[@traceymarshall5886]

Yes i nearly choked when he said that!! It made me feel old as ive only been streaming since my 30s and im not that "old" 😂😊

[@MalikEmmanuel]

The funny thing is that when cable came out, its main advantage over regular TV was that Cable had no commercials!

[@StreetPreacherr]

At least streaming seems to be remaining a VOD service... Just wait until a streaming provider comes out with an 'Ad Supported/LINEAR Programming' tier! It would be a streaming 'channel' with ads every few minutes, but instead of VOD it would just show a constant feed of the most popular content on a 24hr loop. ;)

[@abe9560]

nothing like ads slowly sneaking in. Same with KZbin where ppl just put in commercials within the video which also make premium subscribers watch them

[@MylesKillis]

@@abe9560that’s is my least favorite thing about the internet right now

[@MalikEmmanuel]

​@@abe9560 those are bad, but the absolute worst is when KZbin gives me those 45 minute to 1 hour "commercials"

[@zerodeconduite804]

🤣 ads, ads everywhere. Why do we need ads? Why do we desire, crave ads? Do ads alert us to what everyone else is doing so that the everyone else doesn’t murder us? We belong?

[@stefanrusek2322]

As someone who lived through the frustration of cable. The price was only part of the problem. The more frustrating part was that we paid for 200 channels, but only really watched 5-6.

[@gunkulator1]

It's the same for streaming. I might watch a half dozen shows vs. the hundreds of offerings.

[@k00ki3izkrazy]

The ads were what I hated and more then half the time I didn’t care or need or want what they were advertising

[@EpicSlug]

This is false economics. Yes with cable you subsidise channels you don't watch, but other people are subsiding the channels you're watching. ESPN charges $6/mo, HGTV charges 30 cents. But ESPN has 20X the viewership. Now every bit of content you watch is on a different service with less subscribers overall so they have to charge more.

[@Teisharocz]

The real price consumers paid was their precious time invested sitting through all the commercials cable showed on top of the bill. The time ads up, time consumers will never get back! I counted 8 commercials 20 years agoin a 2 hour movie. It was a cable trial deal, it was so annoying, I canceled the next day and never touched cable again!

[@constantreader1422]

and every time it stormed, you watched nothing

[@Silver77cyn]

Streaming is temporary. Pirating is eternal.

[@TadanoCandy]

I streamed because I could afford it and I might as well support the creators and stream services. I’ll be going back to pirating like I did when I was a teen

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

​@@TadanoCandyit didn't even support creators, just their owners

[@andreialcaza]

Nail it

[@meekag5940]

Like diamons lol....piratings forever forever ever

[@adamk-paxlogan7330Sucks]

@Silver77cyn until those sites have paywalls,been on a cartoon/anime site for years and what do they do? paywall trash now,all cause they have everything,cartoons,anime,movies,shorts

[@nekomata4830]

Piracy is a crime of convenience. The inability to watch all the shows that you are interested in on a single platform will be the downfall of the streaming services

[@pills-]

But first we have to go through the "streaming services suing everyone they can find" stage first. And that's an UGLY stage. And pirating doesn't actually fix the underlying issues (inventing a new technology that skirts around the existing regulations, which other people start pirating because they're not protected by the new systems).

[@CBT5777]

What about the crime of them exploiting us? That should be a crime.

[@prixe12]

@@educationalthoughts6152 I sure do ;)

[@joaovictornave]

Piracy is not a crime in a world where buying is not owning.

[@brettjenkins1645]

@@educationalthoughts6152do you mean might as well?

[@After4th]

The topic Louis Rossman has always been addressing. Predatory business practice to take away consumer freedom. Stopping consumers from third party DIY repairs, stripping away content and convenience while raising prices, taking away ownership when you only own the license, not the product.

[@3nertia]

Welcome to capitalism! Everything else is merely a symptom of the larger disease that is capitalism (and every other predatory system before it - no, not communism/socialism, sit down child)

[@jmtradbr]

I was a happy kid who rented VHS and DVDs I was a happy teen that downloaded movies I was a happy young adult who used Netflix Now i'm happy coming back to my teen days.

[@Jsarmy87124]

Rented I never does it parents buy some VHS dvd we watch them all the time 😂😂😂

[@Ace01010]

Still got vhs tapes hahaha

[@hhs_leviathan]

I still buy DVDs.

[@Crabernacker]

Lime and frostwire were my whole childhood

[@Warp2090]

VHS tapes are my favorite, and HD vhs tapes should come back I think. Dvd's are nice, but can get scratched

[@lunathecutest6652]

“The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It’s by giving those people a service that’s better than what they’re receiving from the pirates.” -Gabe Newell. This is one of my favorite quotes of all time. It has only gotten truer the more time has passed, and in more than just the games industry.

[@TheT3rr0rMask]

Exactly, especially depending on franchises you like. Lotta stuff I watch and play? Zero official avenues to consume them, so I have have rely on it. Even if I pay for Hulu there's gonna be those days they don't offer what I wanna watch. Am I gonna pay Prime's ridiculous fee or find it on some free movie site? I wanna play a Ubisoft game w/out Uplay bogging my system? They kinda didn't give me another choice.

[@chucheeness7817]

For a time I heard people apply Gabe's quote to Netflix (Netflix was so popular because of its convenience that people didn't mind paying), but content were split so much now that it became inconvenient, pushing people back to piracy.

[@PvblivsAelivs]

I presume you love that quote because it is a total sham. Unless you are putting anti-piracy technology, in some form or other, to work, "what they're receiving from the pirates" is your service. Anything that stops people from getting _your_ service from the pirates is anti-piracy technology. If you want to give people a better service than what they are receiving from the pirates, you have to stop the pirates from being able to copy your service. Anti-piracy technology is basically a must. The hard part is keeping it from degrading the user experience. But everyone who quotes Newell knows it's a sham.

[@acewickhamyoshi8330]

In an australian perspective , we are 2 % global population, yet we had access to freetv , so video pirates as tourists could go to australia , tape a movie / tv show , and /or sell it back home, this was happening in australia as well, movies recorded in france or germany from 2003 til recently, the issue was raised by Disney , who solved this by having no sales of dvd since 2022 , only pay per view , also as of 1 January Disney gained access to every australian tv , computer tablet, phone data about why we are not watching disney or paramount or cbs or why we watch tv from youtube or tictoc to get entertained, sometimes a movie is not even in english , but we like that too, just as long as disney bots see we watch 1000 youtube shorts a day,

[@Tehblood]

@@chucheeness7817 it WAS that, it definitely started out as a service that WAS better than dealing with torrents and ad ridden websites. but these companies CANT STOP. they just have to keep making more, and more, AND MORE. the piracy will never stop being an option. and it will always fill the void. basically, rip greedy idiots, we will find another way.

[@randomtinypotatocried]

With how streaming services has gotten over the past few years, my family started going back to buying DVDs and Blu-rays instead of dealing with multiple streaming services

[@craftyhobbit7623]

Wise choice, if you can get them but I've found a lot of the new stuff isn't on DVD or Blu-ray.

[@richard--s]

​@@craftyhobbit7623 then this stuff doesn't exist. What a freedom! No need to buy it. OK, I can imagine that you want to know how a story continues... But guess what, the writers just make the story as they want to. It can be any storyline, it doesn't matter. Your imagination is as good as theirs. And it just doesn't matter. It's an imaginary story anyways.

[@meatpopsicle6244]

I just started a plex server and have been borrowing friends and coworkers dvd/bluray collections. Yeah not all the latest stuff but a lot of goodies and eclectic stuff.

[@mattd1188]

@@meatpopsicle6244 I've resisted plex for many years due to (what I feel are) excessive, and obtrusive licensing practices. Jelly fin isn't quite there yet, so I'll probably do some local media server thing too. Buying physical media isn't a bad idea either.

[@N4CR]

@@craftyhobbit7623 most of the new stuff is junk or woke rubbish though lol

[@kaleprincess8268]

This is why I bought a DVD player. Going back to the 2000s, not being tracked across the web, constantly sold to and bamboozled by price hikes and ads. I’m good ✌️

[@awesomeferret]

You should have gone back to the late 2000s instead and gotten a Bluray player. Why would you even admit to buying a DVD player in 2024 when Bluray players (all of which can play DVDs better than most DVD players) cost 15 dollars at your local thrift store? At least you're on the right track. Are you using DVD as a shorthand for optical media in general, or did you actually buy a DVD player?

[@kaleprincess8268]

@@awesomeferret The one I got is $25 and ultra slim, fits under my TV. But you’re right, I should have been eco-friendly and gotten a $5 one at the thrift store. Hard to find time to thrift :/

[@RandallStevenson]

@@awesomeferret nothing wrong with DVD player, especially if they don't have any Blu-rays or interest in Blu-rays

[@circleinforthecube5170]

@@awesomeferret the difference isin't that big buddy, dvd isin't obsolete as a medium because of blu-ray, its basically the same thing

[@awesomeferret]

@@circleinforthecube5170 I'm baffled at how you think that. Is your TV 32 inches or less? You're literally trying to get me to deny my own eyes... The difference is dramatic, and claiming otherwise is logically akin to arguing that the earth is flat.

[@ChadAV69]

2010: $7 a month for a bunch of cool stuff with no ads 2023: $17 a month to watch that one show you feel like watching, then $13 a month to watch that other show, then $7.99 a month to watch that one movie that isn't on Amazon Prime, then $4 to rent that movie, then another $12.99 to watch that one trendy show. Oh, and they all have ads unless you want to pay $25 a month.

[@dianevanderlinden3480]

I just lost a couple of my "purchases" on Amazon. I knew it was possible, but now I just feel like a jerk. Should've just bought used DVDs. It cracks me up to read stuff like "get with it Boomers. Get rid of those DVDs and start streaming." Oh well to that. Think I'm going back to physical media and reading. Screw it.

[@GeeEee75]

That's a bit of an exaggeration. I currently pay $10.99 a month for Netflix with no ads. My most expensive subscription is KZbin Premium, at $16.99 per month.

[@GeeEee75]

​@@dianevanderlinden3480You should definitely consider buying a DVD/blu-ray of any movie or show that you know you'll want to return to repeatedly. I have a number of shows on DVD that are simply not available anywhere online anymore. But I guess one day even those will become obsolete once DVD players are replaced with other technology. 😒

[@MLTAKOS]

all you people do is complain when you can just make a damn list and track shows/movies and watch it also in 1 month and pay that fee once even if its not convenient otherwise pay for your comfort... thats how you show these companies that its ridiculous to pay a subscription every damn month for access

[@nixon2tube]

@@dianevanderlinden3480 Never trust a service to "hold" your media. Always have it on media YOU control.

[@travellingslim]

Even though ads are starting to come to streaming, we still have a ways before it's as bad as cable. I visited my parents for Christmas recently. They still pay for cable at $70 a month. We watched Home Alone. It fit into a 2 1/2 hour slot. The movie itself is 1hr 43 minutes long. That's 47 minutes of ads in one movie. There were so many ad breaks that ads repeated themselves back to back to back on loop and of course most of them were prescription drugs. Absolute torture. Keep in mind my parents are paying $70 a month for that service!

[@deadbeatonthemooneatingkfp8500]

yea youtube seems to be trying its best to get there and has been trying since its conception. I mean youtube is free with ads but from the place it started too now youtube has been on the forefront of whats acceptable for streaming services to pair with a video. they have also changed how the user can manipulate those adds and skip them. I remember the days when the videos showed yellow bars that indicated adds and you could que them up to bypass them. On the other hand at least your cable(television) company doesn't charge you for the amount of data you transfer in a given month. $70 and you can leave the thing on all day without worry about how its going to change at the end of the month or become more expensive. 4k for a week and then 480p for the rest of the month because you are being throttled for using too much.

[@frommatorav1]

@@deadbeatonthemooneatingkfp8500 Commercials are evil and data caps are equally as evil. My wife doesn't mind watching live TV with commercials but it drives me nuts. When we first dropped cable, I subscribed to Hallmark Now for her. A 2 hr movie, is actually only and 1:20 to 1:26. I've never been tolerant of commercials during movies. When I was younger, I had premium channels HBO and Showtime and sometimes others, too. I would record them on VHS and DVD. Then I just started renting DVDs then Blurays and copying or pirating. I also have purchased my favorites on physical media, too. I prefer to stream it for free before buying, though.

[@matklm]

When I was young I never understood why there were some "cuts" in cartoons. Later I realised those "cuts" were made for the US television to insert more ads.. way more Ads then what we got in Europe

[@relo999]

@@matklm Yea, US TV is basically unwatchable to me. pretty much half the time you're watching ads. Here it's maybe 10 minutes of ads total over a 40 minute show

[@juniorjames7076]

@@deadbeatonthemooneatingkfp8500 Well not enough people want to give KZbin alternatives like Odysee a chance. Dailymotion is a junkyard. Everyone is whining about what YT is becoming but nobody's supporting the alternatives.

[@capitalofTX]

If buying doesn’t mean owning, then piracy isn’t stealing.

[@jefffuhr2393]

You pay your dentist for services, but you don't "own" him. Strawman argument. Made in good tongue-in-cheek fun, I presume.

[@annachen6562]

But if u pay for prime for example, ur paying for the service of the streaming site. If u purchase a movie on top of that, and you continue to pay for ur acccess to the service, they shouldn’t be able to take away the film u purchased. Yes you pay your optometrist for checking your eyes, and then you pay on top of that for your glasses. You bought the glasses, they can’t take them away.

[@capitalofTX]

@@annachen6562 exactly, apparently Sony, Discovery AND Ubisoft seem to disagree.

[@cuevob]

Ohh, good one. I looked up the definition: "That which is stolen; stolen property: used chiefly in the plural: as, his stealings amounted to thousands of dollars." If its not property, its not stolen. i know, IP, IP, but Philips, I don't own it, Aaron Paul doesn't own it, doesn't get paid, its not property in my mind.

[@salpertia]

​@@capitalofTXSony and discovery ran that back I believe.

[@eduardotrillaud696]

I've found a simple remedy for all these modern issues: I pretend I live in the late 90s-early 2000s. My phone is mostly for communication and casual gaming (I play mostly non-connection required games), I download the music I listen and I also listen lots of radio, don't have TV, only pay for KZbin Premium and avoid other streaming services, and I resort to piracy for games, movies and series. Ah, and I drive an old diesel car.

[@masonpalmer6490]

Driving a more polluting vehicle is not solving modern issues lol.

[@eduardotrillaud696]

@@masonpalmer6490 yes it does, when the issues are that modern cars are unnecesarily complex, expensive, and can't be maintained by their owners

[@masonpalmer6490]

@@eduardotrillaud696 When a car is more fuel efficient and clean that is not "unneccesarily" complex. It's complex for a clear reason- more drive time and a better carbon footprint.

[@General_Belu]

Now that’s the good way to live! I have an MP3 player and I pirate my music (I swear there’s no good place to buy music these days).

[@drivingbritt9617]

@@masonpalmer6490Tesla cope is real.

[@subject8123]

It’s not even that they have ads, they just insert the ad (brought to you by Burger King) in the middle of a sentence or a scene. They don’t even plan them.

[@taurengraybeard218]

I'm dealing with that right now. Started watching Star Trek Voyager, and the ads aren't even put in during the times the show was originally edited FOR ads. They always start a few seconds early, often in the middle of a sentence or even a word. 🙄

[@cassettetape7643]

​@@taurengraybeard218I'm so sad to hear all the Treks have ads now, even with the paid service! 😢😭

[@i.k.8868]

@@cassettetape7643 I would never watch a tv show with ads.

[@misstanya7487]

Welcome to George Orwell's future vision of 1984 in 2024 and the movie They Live by John Carpenter combined so we can be flooded with ads containing subliminal messages to obey, no independent thought, have no imagination, watch tv, conform, stay asleep, do not question authority, buy, and consume. Do any of you get the picture of what's going on ? People need to learn how to read between the lines. Ignorance is not bliss because it can eventually get you deleted and put you at the pearly gates earlier than expected.

[@RandallStevenson]

@@i.k.8868 somebody was born in the new millinium

[@polaris911]

This is what every corporation does now. They offer a good service and good price initially, which destroys the competition so they're the only ones left in the market, then they can raise prices and cut service and you're helpless. Amazon is doing the same thing.

[@MoonLiteNite]

I don't think any of the dozens of streaming destroyed anything.... plenty of DVDs to buy at the store and online, plenty of cable companies to pick from, and even still got dish receiver TV to pick if you really want that. The only thing it did was give people more options and made a bunch of crybabies

[@Nebukanezzer]

And of course, capitalism. If growth is necessary and expected, they WILL start becoming shittier the nanosecond they reach market saturation and can no longer attract more customers by offering a good product.

[@giu941]

now? they've always did this

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

Been this way since the 1980s. It's what Sony did with video tape players versus betamax. Then Bluray versus HD-DVD.

[@SIDySTARdust]

I think you just described the history of capitalism?

[@mw2trickshoter]

illegal streaming will always be better, and it's so stupid

[@HesTheDummyNotMe]

Dummy does not support illegal activity but does understand in the abstract how piracy is incredibly ethical and based

[@1000huzzahs]

"Spotify didn't eliminate piracy, it privatized it" as the saying goes

[@JSSMVCJR2.1]

@@HesTheDummyNotMe "Dummy is Pro-Piracy."

[@Jsarmy87124]

​@@1000huzzahs🙄 youtube mp3

[@_EggsBenedict]

@@HesTheDummyNotMe bootlicker

[@gaming_bigfoot]

Ads on streaming were bound to happen when greed drives everything I'm honestly wondering how much longer we have before they become mainstream in video games... only to realize they kind of are already. CoD having celebrities, Fortnite being the premier crossover grab-bag, and Hi-Rez _literally offering in-game rewards for viewing ads in-game_ Crazy what happens when things are structured around the dollar

[@midriffzero]

Well NBA2K has actual ads and ad breaks.

[@zorromagico4534]

God i hate so much Fortnite, a fucking pop-culture game but everything about it feels Fake or just made to spend money on it

[@fusionspace175]

What I miss wasn't even a footnote here, and it's the special features from the DVD and blu ray era that never made it to the streaming services. It was the reason to have a physical collection, all the features and commentaries. Now no one seems to care about that stuff, because there's so much more primary content to get to. So who has time to listen to a directors commentary or watch interviews with the artists anymore? But those things inspired a generation of people to become artists themselves, showing them how the movies and TV they loved were made.

[@9852323]

That's definitely not the only reason to continue using physical media.

[@wellacoyoteishere185]

You are right entirely. However I'm speaking as the one kid that played the Free Willy DVD mini game for a long while

[@russellharrell2747]

The DVD extra content existed for a few reasons: More storage room than VHS The need to justify the expense over VHS The need to differentiate the new media from the legacy format. One comparison is VHS vs Laserdisc. Laserdisc offered no real advantage over VHS other than the possible usage of existing LP storage instead of shelving. No extras to speak of. So laserdisc never became the dominant format.

[@TheT3rr0rMask]

Same here, especially the James Bond series. Their modern DVD and Bluray libraries are PACKED with deleted scenes, 45 minute docs on each movie's production, commentaries from the crew and cast, sometimes even music videos of the theme songs. On Prime they don't offer any of that. And now that Amazon owns MGM and physical media's dead, these movies are essentially dead to me outside the library I own. Not that the newer Bond movies had special features on their Blurays anyway, but the idea of this franchise becoming Prime-streaming only makes me wince.

[@affsteak3530]

That touches on my issue with the lack of historical preservation involved with streaming. You don't get to see storyboards, hear the actors' experiences on-set, or learn how practical effects were accomplished. Those extras were a way for the show's creators to speak directly to the audience.

[@kencochrane2885]

Ubisoft dropped the bomb on the issue signiffying where tech companies interests are. Not providing good service, but forcing the public to accept bad service. Paying for music is a small inconvenience and not owning it, but dropping money on a game and not owning it is ludicrous.

[@AutoCannonSaysHi]

...Arcades...

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

​@@AutoCannonSaysHihave to fight against constant licensing and "always online" issues. Even retro arcade cabinets have to find a way to dump ROMs for preservation otherwise when the ROM battery runs out it becomes a paperweight

[@Kattbirb]

Oh yes, saying "You should get comfortable in not owning your games" right after delisting a game, like the writing wasn't freshly painted on the wall.

[@JackFoxtrotEDM]

The Crew is 95% singleplayer with multiplayer sprinkled in, yet we have to be connected to servers to leave the main menu. Ubisoft, wtf? This is the only game sold as a good (like every other game, and with a perpetual license which doesn't expire, unlike a subscription) that I know of that isn't F2P with MTX or a subscription service that can be just taken away from you like this. Every other game in existence is still playable after servers are gone, because they're just needed for the online stuff, not for the singleplayer. Ubisoft deliberately did this and it's genuinely frustrating.

[@thekingofkingsrp]

You will own nothing and be happy!!

[@JohnBrockman]

Once upon a time cable was sold the same way, with the promise of ad free television. It only took a few years, once they'd saturated the market, to walk that back. Ads coming to streaming was inevitable.

[@cinifiend]

The cycle repeats with every new technology. AI is currently where streaming was 10 years ago - can get everything from one service, high quality content with no ads, lots of innovation coming out constantly. In 10 years AI will be just as shitty as streaming, social media, and every other technology.

[@thelbtlover]

This is why I never stopped pirating and downloading stuff. Everyone around me was so happy to pay the $7/month to Netflix. They wouldn't listen to me when I said that Netflix would continually jack up the prices and that eventually they'd add ads. I never anticipated all these different companies starting their own streaming services though. Things ended up even crappier than I expected. Now you've got young people like the guy in this video who has probably never even heard of a torrent in his life. I've had a Netflix subscription for over a decade now but I never use it. I pay for it for my mom but it never has anything decent on it anymore so she always just tells me what she wants to watch and I download it for her and transfer it to the little NAS server I set up for her. She never has to deal with having the show she's in the middle of watching getting yanked out from under her anymore.

[@arc-audio]

@@cinifiendthat service rot is the “innovation” unchecked capitalism brings.

[@styrfry]

@@thelbtlover I've been pirating since ye olde Napster and Kazaa and OG demonoid days. Pirating has never been better, you've got private trackers for everything under the sun and even with a low amount of seeders, speeds are still good. I do something similar for my mother too, I upload the NYT bestseller book list to her kindle every few months, saves her a ton of money! She also loves the movies and shows I download too, but she still loves her TV for the background noise it provides. At least with that it is a digital antenna and no longer a $100+ monthly fee.

[@Bofum69]

Hmm then don’t watch it?

[@justalittlebawn]

I'm going to get back into DVDs, I hate that all my favorites are watchable only at the whim of what rich guy they belong to this month

[@balthus9105]

I'm so glad I kept my collection, I've ditched Netflix after the password sharing clampdown and prime has cancelled itself, I now just buy the odd £4 Blu-ray at cex if I want something different.

[@awesomeferret]

Please, get into Bluray instead. There's no reason at all to get into DVDs unless you are into really niche movies that are stuck on DVD.

[@RandallStevenson]

@@awesomeferret DVDs still command half of the physical media market, it's not a zero sum game, my 400+DVDs aren't going to prevent you from owning one Blu-ray

[@awesomeferret]

@@RandallStevenson I can't tell if you're trying to mess with me or not. The heck? 😂 Are you a bit drunk or something? Why would I, a person who is asking people to buy Bluray, think that you buying DVD has any impact on my ability to buy Bluray? I'm asking you to buy Bluray because it usually costs the same (or less) for a disc that's much more durable than DVD and has much better audio and video quality. It's really strange that you replied in the way that you did.

[@RandallStevenson]

@@awesomeferret your attitude, I took a guess. your response, guess confirmed

[@russellmania5349]

Whats interesting is that the more streaming services we have to choose from the worse they become. Usually more competition means competitive pricing, but it's the exact opposite. We were better off when we just had Netflix and Hulu. Even music streaming services are out of control and music is constantly getting removed because of licensing issues.

[@captain150]

Streaming is fundamentally different than most types of competition, because the companies are greedy af. They all want their own little garden with their own little shows and movies. If I want a car, I can choose from a dozen or more brands. They'll all have some pros and cons, but they'll all have 4 wheels and the ability to take me places. If I want to watch show A or movie B, more often than not I'm forced to pick 1 streaming service. I knew this would happen, so I'm back to using alternate sources.

[@styrfry]

They all saw how well Netflix was doing when everyone had their library on Netflix, so they all decided to have a go at it themselves so they could stick their hands in the cookie jar. Good ol' corporate greed. So now we have 15-20+ tiny cookie jars to choose from.

[@pills-]

The difference here is that many media companies don't actually have enough content to justify their own streaming pipelines, but they all have a couple shows/movies that they refuse to rent to other providers. So they make a lot of shows and movies with low production costs and poorly paid actors/writers as filler.

[@petormaculan5424]

Because the competition isn't fair, a streaming platforms main product is the way it delivers content, however the main form of competition is which content they have on the service due to exclusivity deals. This means they have no incentive to make a better product than netflix or hulu

[@Volkbrecht]

@@styrfry Which works quite well, since you can always cancel and resubscibe. Just wait until a service has a handful of shows you want to watch, then hop over. With the amount of content they all have, there is rarely a need to pay for more than one at a time.

[@grapefruitsimmons]

So bc theyre dropping millions or even billions of dollars on terrible movies/series that nobody wants and arent profitable, theyre gonna charge us more for their terrible shows/movies

[@spaceghostmiid]

welcome to late stage capitalism my friend

[@3nertia]

Welcome to capitalism! All roads lead to profit!

[@3nertia]

@@spaceghostmiid Why does everyone append/prepend qualifiers to 'capitalism'? It's just capitalism. This is the cycle of capitalism. The same predatory system we've had since before it was even called "capitalism" heh

[@fsaldan1]

​@@3nertiaIf you do not like capitalism you are free to move to some country with a different system. Cuba, for example.

[@purnya2]

@@fsaldan1 Why do you think no one has moved to Cuba and alike countries yet? Why do capitalist countries impose embargon on it? And why do people criticize the fruits of capitalism despite living in it?

[@SapeHallward]

It used to be "If the product is free than you're the product" to "You're the product no matter what because we enjoy the best of both worlds".

[@istrumguitars]

Yeah exactly. They’re selling our data to the advertisers and analytics companies *and* making us pay for it. How degrading.

[@Shodan130]

unless you pirate. in which case it's neither lmao.

[@SapeHallward]

@@Shodan130 Pirating is the only way we can revert these idiotic moves from the likes of Netflix and Amazon. Just like with the music industry.

[@Shodan130]

@@SapeHallward whether they change or not has 0 impact on me idc

[@davidt8438]

I hate that they get away with calling them “Ads”. They are commercials people. An ad used to be a picture of some lady wearing an apron and pearls while holding up a pineapple upside down cake with a title saying “Just like mom used to make” or a picture of some guy wearing a steel hard hat with coveralls holding a cigarette with smoke rising with the caption “ when you need a pause that’s refreshing”. Not a moving 30 second long video urging you to “ask your doctor about blah blah blah”. That’s a frigging full blown commercial. Somewhere along the line companies convinced people that a commercial is a break that tries to sell you something but an ad is just a short suggestion. As if an Ad isn’t as bad. Well now they’re running full size commercials during my bought and paid for movie that I’m trying to watch and I don’t like it one bit. Don’t be fooled by the lies. They are charging you real money to force commercials down your throat. And that’s bad.

[@CrashTestPilot]

I cut the cord back in 2014 and warned that this very thing would eventually happen when things started disappearing from Netflix. Nobody wants a slice of the pie, they each want a whole pie to themselves.

[@homuraakemi493]

Nobody wanted to listen to old man CrashTestPilot until it was too late! 😢

[@brobone1719]

Aside from piracy being easier and more convenient in these times, it actually might be the only way to not see these shows or movies without ads, what a world to live in where you pay to see ads and less convenience.

[@Desh727]

I'm guessing not the pirate bay

[@RandallStevenson]

physical media still exists, except the forced trailers when you first insert some disks, no ads and you own it for the life of that polycarbamate disk.

[@avlaysia1868]

Right! It’s wild how almost every streaming service makes you pay even with adds and without adds it’s like almost $20 a month 😭wtf ?

[@Vromiaris778]

I just dropped Prime, Apple+ and Netflix. I will only carry one at a time. I refuse to pay Cable rates for streaming and I do not care if I “miss” shows.

[@Jsarmy87124]

That's the thing it came to a point where we don't care missing show !

[@GeeEee75]

Same here. Only I'm forced to subscribe to KZbin Premium to avoid their constant ads as well.🤨

[@russellmania5349]

@@GeeEee75 Why not just use adblock instead?

[@ember9361]

@@GeeEee75 I use adblock because I refuse to give google money for youtube

[@kroanosm617]

I was thinking of just rotating through the services as needed. Dammit. As I wrote that I just realized they will probably bring back contracts.

[@WannabeWRX]

I'm old enough to remember that while basic cable channels often had advertising, premium cable channels like HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, and Prism (because they had an additional fee charged on the cable bill) did not have corporate advertising. The commercials were more "stay tuned" kinds of ads. Whenever a delivery medium (TV, Cable, Internet, Streaming, etc) introduces corporate sponsorship advertising on top of subscription fees, it will always be a money grab for the shareholders - it will not serve any other purpose.

[@shidditiddis]

My aunt was an early adopter of Netflix, but she used a CD burner and made all of us copies for the shows and movies she was watching. I had season 1-3, 5 and 6 of Scrubs. Lots of deduction skills formed during that time.

[@BoleDaPole]

Wow so you're telling the world that your aunt commits felonies? You should probably delete that comment before Interpol and the FBI find her.

[@Demi_Full]

@@BoleDaPoleit’s not illegal as long as it’s just personal use lmao

[@My_Old_YT_Account]

​@@Demi_Fullit's illegal but nobody cares except the movie companies, it would cost more to sue her for this than what they could get back so they won't

[@ernestpowell5012]

Your aunt sounds like a G

[@laurencefraser]

@@BoleDaPole under most jurisdictions, copyright law doesn't give a damn how many copies you make of something, it cares about what you do with them. Distribution, especially for money? Always a no go. Other uses? varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction (for example, in New Zealand (last I checked) you can time shift, format shift, make backups of, and do various other things to anything you have are entitled to have... live tv? timeshift and format shift is fine... though technically speaking once you've watched it once you're Supposed to get rid of the resulting copies (in practice, no one does, but also no one really bothers so much these days so no one cares. Back in the days of video tapes the tape would eventually get reused, but that was it). Got a dvd or music CD? make as many copies as you like! In any format! you're in the clear legally... RIGHT up until you sell or give away the original or ANY of the copies, in which case ALL of the copies must go to the same person and/or be destroyed... otherwise you're engaging in unauthorised distribution, which is illegal (in practice there's a bit of slack there, no one's going to care if you share it with family members in the same house as you, for example). )

[@majorramsey3k]

Another thing Cable did back in the day was to crack down on the number of TV's in a household using splitters. They HATED the idea of 2 TV's in a home sharing one cable connection and wanted to charge extra fees for that. It's like the crackdown on password sharing or changing locations.

[@tinabean713]

Maybe I bought my house before that happened. My last apartment only had one run into the house, and I HAD to install splitters and run cable through to the bedrooms if I wanted my son and I to have TV in our bedrooms - which we both had before I got cable because I didn't want to watch that much Barney (when I got him the TV) and the much more annoying cartoons for male tweens that the 00s brought us by the time I got cable $.

[@majorramsey3k]

@@tinabean713 I'm talking like 1990.

[@damon20r]

Not sure what your talking about. When the cable company came out they actually supplied a splitter in the distribution box to split the signal between the 5 different locations the coaxial cables were ran to. And I am taking about back in the 90's.

[@majorramsey3k]

@@damon20r Yes, and when they did that, they charged the service a monthly fee for each new connection. They did not take well to you splitting it after the distribution box yourself. Most people ignored that and did it anyway. ISP's tried this when routers became a thing, they didn't like people using them and wanted to charge a fee for each computer you wanted to go online with. That didn't last long. However, that all being said, you do realize not all cable companies were the same, right? Some were militant and others didn't really care.

[@damon20r]

@@majorramsey3k I obviously have no idea what kind of experience you have had your past providers. And yes they did charge fees later on when they started using digital boxes but when the cable signal was analog they did not care how many TVs you had.

[@adamabou-nasr1130]

Will never forget that Hulu launched as a free, ad-supported streaming service for broadcast television shows. Will never forgive the government for not making that a requirement for a broadcast license.

[@jorrdan.]

Was it free? I only remember being able to watch clips on hulu for free

[@adamabou-nasr1130]

@@jorrdan. Yes 100% free. Things went up the day after they aired and hung around for a few weeks. That free version ran for like a decade, even after paid versions launched

[@HipHoboHarold]

@@jorrdan. They were free, then added a cheapish plan IIRC to get rid of ads or to let you watch a show as it released rather than waiting. Then the cheapist plan rose in price and the free plan took its place.

[@niqhtt]

It was where I watched the Daily Show

[@ava_adamsg]

u had to watch ads if u didn’t have it

[@Blabbermouth-w5w]

I used to pirate everything because I was sick of ads. Then I started using streaming because it was easier than pirating. Now Amazon has ads... and crap shows... and nothing I actually want. I'm going back to pirating. Also, I make sure that ads have the opposite effect on me. I see an ad about the wopper, I refuse to get a frakking wopper... I know I am not alone in this,

[@chadalexander7218]

I called Lowes customer support line and had to listen to a 90 second ad before I could get to the menu. It's gone too far.

[@zeening]

THAT shit is driving me insane, fucking EVERY SINGLE PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE uses god awful super shit like 1980s automated operators that ramble incessantly and tell you 48023197391231238291731237219731 times, in EXTREMELY EXPLICIT MASSIVELY OVER-WORDY DETAIL, about their website and "you can maybe solve w.e issue you're having there!" it's like bitch i've been on the phone for 45 minutes now and i've heard about that gd website for 30 minutes of it on repeat... and then like you said the ads oh man.... literally have me considering doxxing at times lmao

[@djp_video]

A couple points for you... (1) I've been cancelling streaming services for several years now. Netflix was the first to go 4 years ago. I haven't missed any of them. Makes me wish I had cancelled sooner. (2) I started investing in DVDs back in the 1990s, Blu-rays when they came out, and UHD Blu-rays when they came out. I have a very sizeable collection now. I spend much less on disc-based content than the overwhelming majority of people do on streaming services. And I have a collection of more content than I can possibly consume, and it's nearly all content that I like. And it's in the highest quality available. And there are effectively no ads. Physical media isn't for everybody, but it sure is nice to have with all of the frustrating things happening in streaming. These streaming companies need to figure out the right balance between spending billions on new (usually mediocre) content and affordable plans for their customers. Or those customers are going to walk away.

[@lisasands8530]

I also have a huge collection of hard copies... lol I was able to shop blockbuster when they closed. I spend most my time with you tube now. I dropped Amazon, because I WILL NOT pay anything more, after I sign up...FU! I need to find the Gilmore Girls and a few others, I'd be just dandy. 😁

[@ianmason2003]

So you just rewatch the same old stuff. That’s fun.

[@djp_video]

@@ianmason2003 I always have a bunch of new content I’ve never seen. But repeating stuff isn’t as bad as you’d think. I really don’t miss the streaming services I’ve cancelled at all. I’ve had zero regrets about walking away from Netflix or Hulu or Disney+ or Apple+ or whatever. None whatsoever. Quite the opposite. It’s given me more time to do more fulfilling things.

[@istrumguitars]

I’m going to start collecting too. I want to own my media, not lease it.

[@ShootingAir]

​@@ianmason2003 you want to have sex with the same person more than once? Wow, that's fun.

[@JabbinJoel_Sc33p0]

netflix said "oh your family is seperated, well either way you can pay double"

[@Handleitt1]

When I see an ad I make sure to remember not to buy from them. I cook at home now.

[@QveenRex]

All my streaming services are canceled, save for KZbin premium, and as others have mentioned, even paying for premium doesn’t get you away from the ads, as the individual content creators themselves all have sponsorships in their videos, often for products or services that they don’t even use themselves. Even if you pay the ads away, they find a way to try and sell us garbage.

[@SimonHergott]

Get the extension called "sponser block for youtube" and you won't have that issue anymore.

[@joaquinillo_]

Re-vanc3d comes with sponser block too

[@KristiBranstetter]

I skip thru sponsorship bs in videos. Most of them are very expensive.

[@QveenRex]

@@KristiBranstetter I hate having to waste time skipping at all

[@KristiBranstetter]

@@QveenRex Commercials are one reason I am not a fan of TV. I will happily pay $13.99 a month for KZbin Premium.

[@Joshua-Studies]

Well timed video. I just recently went through the gut check of "are these services worth it to me anymore" and ended up cancelling most of my streaming services. Tired of paying only to become the product in the end. I hope that regulation can begin keeping pace with tech or as a society we reach a point where the dollar isnt the end all be all.

[@HesTheDummyNotMe]

You nailed my feelings exactly as always

[@giantsr1eva]

@JoshuaNeeley Exactly, their greed will be their downfall. Streaming could have been profitable if was only Netflix and Hulu and cable, but they decided to get greedy and make watching television unaffordable.

[@GeeEee75]

If you're paying for more than one or two streaming services at the same time then you're wasting your money, in my opinion. I keep track of when my streaming services are up for renewal and when they are, I consider whether there's enough content left for me to continue subscribing. If there's not, or if there's a hot new show on a different service, then I cancel and switch to that service for a month or two. There's generally not enough new content to justify me keeping a continuous subscription running to any of them, and if something new pops up that I want to watch, there's always next month.

[@PatrickMuster]

The Problem is regulations will never "keep" up with technologie and the bullshit the companys pull to save there money!

[@russellmania5349]

@@GeeEee75 I bet there are a lot of people that are paying for streaming services that they hardly ever use.

[@boogerman908]

KZbin giving me ads every 4 minutes when I'm trying to watch a long form video is absolutely wild. That's more than cable

[@carolitoffana]

and I swear, the more a brand shows up to me the least likely I am to buy

[@johanalejandrocazadordepin7225]

The frequency is greater but the duration isnt. At least no in my country. Here we get about 8 or 9 minutes of commercials for every 30 minutes. In comparison, if you get a 10 add every four minutes in thery minutes that would be about 1 minute and 10 seconds per every 30 minutes. Also, some add can be skipped after 5s so it is still better than cable

[@boogerman908]

@@johanalejandrocazadordepin7225 its really the frequency. Im usually busy doing things when I'm listening to these videos and having to stop what I'm doing every 4 minutes to find my phone and either skip or close out the video is utterly absurd.

[@tavern2468]

The 40 minute ads drive me absolutely insane

[@GeeEee75]

Yes. If you want to avoid that, you'll need...a subscription. Only $16.99 a month (minimum, in Australia).🤨

[@KawaiiCat2]

As someone who worked for Netflix as an editor….. they pay crap wages, overwork you and profit millions on the work you do. The film and tv industry is broken in itself. No other industry in this world requires someone to have status before they get accepted in the union. For other industries, all you have to do is work in the industry and pay your dues. You get represented and they protect you. To be in a union for any film/tv sector (editor, lighting, etc), you have to have credits and work very hard to even get represented by the union to actually be treated fairly. One of the big reasons I quit and work in education now. I was tired of being treated like crap at the studios.

[@jairogyro1994]

KZbin also fall under this category. If you pay for Premium, still get bombarded with ads and sponsorships by content creators. If you don't you get weird and scammy ads that KZbin's algorithm decides based on your watch history. The beginnings of KZbin will always be part of that Golden Age of the Internet that less relied on ads.

[@laurencefraser]

if you're getting 'bombarded' you're watching the wrong channels. Most that are any good have One, and it's generally either Really Obvious (and thus easily skipped) or they put serious effort into making That part entertaining as well. Sometimes both. This is, incidentally, (at least if you're not dealing with the actually terrible scammy channels), a direct result of youtube's advertising money to content creators being a: a lot less than most people think and b: highly unreliable (youtube routinely demonitises videos for violations that Don't Exist, and for all that this is supposedly to 'protect advertisers', this does not involve Not running advertisments on those videos, just pocketing all the money themselves rather than passing it on to the creator (oh yes, and sometimes the nick the superchat/superthanks money as well. Not usually channel membership money though, as that's not a video specific thing). Generally speaking, sponsorships are a hell of a lot more reliable about actually Paying What They Owe).

[@georgeandrews1394]

You know you can still use ad blockers. Even on mobile, there are options. EDIT: I mean 'mobile' as in 'on your phone/tablet' not 'KZbin's mobile app'.

[@zxKAOS1]

Ad within a KZbin video can be skipped. That's the important distinction

[@bumblebeegamerreal]

@@georgeandrews1394 Im using said app right now

[@jasonleetaiwan]

​@@zxKAOS1True, but the ads go on for so long sometimes. 😂

[@kathk94]

I will always remember a comment that I read about how you're required to pay a monthly cost for something that may not be a guarantee the next day. You never know when a service will remove something without warning whether it be over rights issues, political reasons etc. And then there's the fact that it's all relied on the internet & services may make controversial edits. The list goes on. Physical media ftw.

[@tsunderemerc2963]

History really does repeat itself, it's always been funny to see streaming re-invent cable

[@stackflow343]

While resuscitating piracy back to the mainstream

[@crimsondot]

Bro says it like it's happened before 💀

[@DexLuther]

The video kinda skipped over how Cable got expensive, which contributed to a rise in piracy. Instead of paying crazy high cable bills, people resorted to pirating episodes as they came out on Cable. Someone would record the episodes as they aired (probably grabbing recording from TiVo or other DVR). The pirates also cut out ads, which was also a bonus. Netflix streaming coming when it did was kind of genius. Their timing was perfect. They came as more and more people were cutting their cable and resorting to the high seas instead. With everything in one place for a single cost (and no ads) people gravitated to it. As things get more and more complicated and more expensive, people will go back to piracy. As the quality of newer content drops, people won't even bother pirating it and instead pirate older content that isn't available anywhere without paying exorbitant prices.

[@mrnice4434]

All this will just lead to more illegal streaming.

[@HesTheDummyNotMe]

Yeah probably

[@computernerdinside]

*cough* Stremio + DB *cough*

[@RedArrow808]

@@computernerdinsideDB?

[@computernerdinside]

@@RedArrow808 Debrid. Real Debrid.

[@lonomx7887]

You wouldn’t download a car would you? I mean seriously, who wouldt download a car if you could. Auto manufacturers became scum too. When piracy offers a better experience than corporations piracy becomes moral and reasonable.

[@TheCrimsonBard]

I saw a meme that the best KZbin channels are the ones with around 10K subs that somehow perform literal magic and this felt like the epitome of that feeling. I found the video and its arguments compelling and engaging enough to draw me to take notes unprompted and do my own research alongside it, which I cannot stress enough, is fucking wild because that is something the college education I pay for barely manages to achieve even semi-frequently. Pleasure watching, thanks for your research and presentation, subbed. Edit: I started checking out some of your other content (content addiction video) and holy crap you're good at this.

[@710blodgett74]

this is why I like physical media. no. ads, you have complete control

[@gunkulator1]

It also takes up space in your home, can get damaged, lost, and has to be fetched every time you want it. Compare to talking into a remote: "Play Better Call Saul" and it picks up where you left off.

[@cgthms]

You can get physical media from the library. Maybe not as convenient, but I loathe commercials.

[@zhen86]

You sure? Those dvd trailers is not ads?

[@aspensulphate]

Toward the end of the VHS/DVD era, non-skippable trailers, and even ads, began showing up on these media. Creeping greed is inevitable, and infinite.

[@zhen86]

@@aspensulphate The only DVD trailers i accept is the trailers for the movie you are watching and it must be optional.

[@zoeyblouin6527]

The problem with policies to regulate streaming is that those policies are made by politicians who need money for their campaigns. Campaigns in which these big streaming companies can spend BILLIONS of dollars lobbying into so that come out on top.

[@BenjaminWalburn]

Regulatory capture is a huge problem but it's not absolute. Regulations can easily be passed that solve these problems in spite of lobbying. Look how close California got to regulating Uber, which took millions in lies to accomplish.

[@garroy7051]

Careful what you wish for, you get more and more politicians involved you always lose. The government is not the answer. the politicians get richer and the people get screwed. I am sure Nancy P. will be first in line to cash in on any new policy or regulation

[@bobnewheart1307]

We had a "golden age" because they wanted to kill cable and have streaming be the main source of content. Once that was the case they knew they could slowly raise the price with minimal veiwer losses

[@tacticallemon7518]

the wallmart effect

[@johnleone1996]

This is why we need physical media

[@Jsarmy87124]

Well imagine being buying a 16 or 10 episodes dvd 🙄

[@CoolModderJaydonX]

I think if there's a good time for a company like Blockbuster to come back, it'd likely be now. Edit: Holy shit, I didn't expect this reply chain.

[@hhs_leviathan]

​@sarahrean7174 Conveniently, you can fit multiple episodes on a dvd on a single dvd. Not an issue.

[@Warp2090]

And cable!

[@Warp2090]

And not blu rays, since you can save money and just get a dvd player than upscales it to 720p HD or 1080p full hd

[@jaredleemease]

I am so angry with the recent streaming rate hikes. The whole appeal was commercial free on demand television and now if I have to pay for ads…I won’t watch, period. Whoever can stay commercial free will be the winner on my television/devices. Merger and acquisitions of for profit corporations are going to turn streaming into a pay to play nightmare from hell. 😞

[@henson2k]

I have Hulu but ended up watching Freevee more

[@jasoncox5505]

My crystal ball saw this coming with control passing to the server from the local DVR. And here we are. Tivo and Windows Media Center did not get enough buy in and equipment charges were half the reason for the price shift to streaming. That and al la carte pricing.

[@Dave5400]

On the subject of adverts, here in the UK there is a law where tv channels have to tell you (usually in the form of the station or programme ident/title card) when there is an advert break coming up. I never really thought anything of this until I saw people online sneaking adverts into their videos from sponsors like how adverts are just thrown in between programmes in the US without warning. You are watching a video and suddenly they smoothly transition into talking about how terrible their internet security used to be before they subscribed to some VPN service. Wait, what? I though this was a video about how to change a wheel bearing? Completely takes me back every time, and it really puts me off watch those channels. Made me appreciate that ads are clearly defined in the UK and just how capitalist the US in in comparison.

[@SL4RK]

The worst thing about this situation, some shows would probably be irretrievably lost, if it weren't for piracy!

[@thehevandragon]

Nah that’s archiving, watching it illegally is the actual piracy.

[@raymondcooper2526]

The Benedict society is an example of that. It was on Disney+ for a short time before they pulled it off the platform. One of the actors in the show had to pirate the show just to be able to show it to her kids when they get older, otherwise its not available at all. Kristen Schaal is the actor if you would like to look up her story.

[@EvenTheDogAgrees]

I especially appreciate the part at the end where you cover the deeper problem. And the bits sprinkled throughout which hint at the same idea: whenever we invent new technology, the first thing we do is try to figure out how we can use it to extract more resources (money, attention, labour, ...) from others. We're not working towards a common goal of bettering society, improving conditions for all of humanity. We're trying to make a quick buck at the expense of the rest of the population. You see this in every industry, and the effects can be devastating. In the case of energy production, it's even actively killing people and endangering not just our species, but all life on the only planet that we're certain of to carry life at all, let alone intelligent life. We got our priorities all wrong. And if we don't do something about it, the future is going to look very bleak for us. Now, I don't think we're facing an extinction; things won't get quite _that_ bad. But a lot of people, especially the underprivileged, will suffer.

[@stevenscott2136]

That's evolution at work. The primary goal of any living thing is to make more copies of its DNA, which means "seek resources, seek mates, favor any others whose DNA is similar to your own". You will never find a truly altruistic species anywhere in the universe, unless it's been genetically-engineered by someone, for profit, status, or perhaps just amusement.

[@VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM]

That's the whole point of people working, they are working to create things, so they get some kind of payback. We wouldn't have any of the tech or advancements or cars or planes or anything if people weren't going to get compensated for it. Sure some people just like to create but that wouldn't amount to much, or if they did discover something you need lots of resources to bring to many other people. And you need compensation for that. If you work to try to better society for free you, very few people end up doing all the work and the rest just take, take, take without giving anything back. Why does one person need to work hard to make someone else's life better and get nothing in return? It sounds nice in theory, but in reality most people would end up a bunch of freeloaders with nothing to offer. When a tech is invented it took a LOT of resources, to keep building on it, it takes a LOT more, to keep it going and alive it takes even more. Pure greed and corruption ruins it though. So that would be a legit concern that causes so many problems. People are working hard to outcompete the others for compensation. You can choose not to participate if the cost is too high.

[@EvenTheDogAgrees]

@@VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM That's a very good argument, you just applied it to the wrong discussion. I mean, I agree with what you say: nobody works for free. But this isn't about people who innovate, and expect fair compensation for their labour. The issue I'm talking about is people using any new technology that comes out (usually technology they didn't even contribute to) to extract maximum revenue for minimal effort. Facebook didn't invent the website. It didn't even invent the interactive website where people could talk to others on the platform. We had community run forums before the Internet became just 5 giant websites, filled with screenshots from the other 4. Facebook simply took what was already there. And when they realised it had become quite popular, they changed it from a platform that served its users, and at most had ads to "cover the bills", to a platform that sought to maximise profits by getting in bed with the advertisement industry. And look at what it's become now: a platform most people hate to use, but can't leave because "everyone I know is on there and I don't want to lose touch", that's constantly manipulating you psychologically to spend as much time as possible on the platform, so it can serve you as many ads as possible. A platform that tracks your every move around the web, spying on you, so it can get to know you better, which serves two purposes: to better know which of your buttons to push to keep you on the platform for longer, and to offer the advertisers better and more precise ways to target their ads. And if it seems I'm singling out Facebook: no, they just serve as one example. They're far from the only ones though. The entire Internet has devolved into a mass surveillance machine on the one hand, and a profitable platform for delivering scams on the other. So far for the "universal library", "store of human knowledge" and "unifying communications platform" it was supposed to become. Assholes in search of a quick buck have destroyed all that.

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@EvenTheDogAgreesadd to that a lot of the new distribution methods actively steal content from the artists. Even the “legit” iTunes licensed a lot of their music from companies that didn’t actually pay the artists. Meaning an iTunes purchase was the same as a Napster download to the actual artist whose music you were listening to.

[@My_Old_YT_Account]

​@@kaitlyn__Lthat's due to shitty contracts they signed, truth is even on CDs a lot were not getting anything back

[@ScottAlanMillerVlog]

My experience with both cable and the FCC is that anything that goes around them or hurts them is good. The FCC did nothing to protect access to cable and basically enabled cable providers to have monopoly power without any oversight or responsibility. The FCC likewise makes the US a backwater in telecommunications. I live in Nicaragua and the degree to which we are ahead of the US on communications technology is staggering. Here we have universal cheap access to modern, secure infrastructure. Things like the FCC and cable providers have made the US a backwater. That doesn't mean that Netflix and their ilk don't need regulations, but there should be general rules that apply to everyone, not rules that are picked and chosen by tech type. The USF is a farce and rural America isn't serviced by cable traditionally, but is by Internet access (or better, at least.) Netflix has done more to get rural access than cable companies have or the USF. The FCC has actually worked to create monopolies that have kept equitable access away. The FCC is the fundamental creater of inequity.

[@kelvinhbo]

"why streaming is becoming cable again" Because we can't have nice things. This is a natural law of the universe.

[@HesTheDummyNotMe]

So true

[@Dave102693]

…of capitalism

[@AQuietNight]

It is more like you have to pay for nice things.

[@Zman201]

​@@AQuietNightthat's what we had we could pay for Netflix and have a nice thing, but now theres so god damn many they're trying to milk us dry

[@ShelbyTeach07]

My husband and I decided to start buying dvds again because we couldnt keep up with all the streaming services!

[@affsteak3530]

If you can pay your monthly fee and have a show canceled mid-billing cycle (Infinity Train) or have your purchases deleted from your account (Sony and Discovery), streaming is worse than every other method of consuming media. That includes piracy, buying DVDs and digitizing them onto a private server, or using your local library. I'm old enough to remember Blockbuster. Even if you were late with your rental return, they couldn't just walk into your house to take back their property. Target can't just destroy your clothes if they stop working with a certain brand. It's insane this is allowed with digital purchases.

[@mr.voidout4739]

I smelled rotten fish when "cut the cable" became such a buzzterm.

[@vintagestudiolive]

I never got rid of my 1,000 plus DVDs. I knew streaming would eventually be like cable. We were promised no ads with cable TV..

[@Aderalls]

The worst part isn't that it's become cable, it's that cable had regulations and other helpful leashes iirc while streaming morphing into basically a worse version of cable means you've got none of that. Weird comparison, but imagine taxis having unions and benefits and the like, then comes Uber which is basically that (sort of) with none of that good stuff ending up killing taxis and you're left with this exploitative business with none of the benefits of old

[@M_SC]

No. Streaming is still much better than cable

[@randomtinypotatocried]

@@M_SCI'm wondering how much longer before streaming becomes actually worse than cable with how bad it already has gotten

[@Kidynamo123]

You’re just restating the central argument of this video

[@frommatorav1]

Cable still sucks with all these regulations. What makes you so convinced that regulations on streaming are going to make them better, not worse. Cable doesn't even want to let us cancel their service with relative ease, even though it's about to be legislated. One improvement that most streaming services have over cable, that there's no contract and you can cancel any time, and it wasn't even legislated.

[@aBRUSHforCONFUCIUS]

Just please stop talking! Cable was expensive because of regulations.If the cabal of companies didn't like your channel, they blocked your channel. Uber is gig work. No one says anything about all those Blockbuster employees who lost jobs because of streaming. 6axes are the worst, way over priced, environmently damaging and dangerous in big cities. Most regulations are written by the entities , whom the regulations are supposed to regulate. The federal government got involved in education, it takes in $100 billion in taxes, yet on disperses $75 billion. What happened to the rest of the money? X"xxxfederal employee pay, useless programs, meetings, studies. This happens every year. Meanwhile, the cost of going to school has gone up multiple times more than comparedcto 1970. When banks and schools negotiated the cist of student loans. But since the government provides loans no one cared about the prices. Same thing happened in medicine on top of subsidizing most of the medical and pharma research, for the world. Plus, all those countries which have crap government medicine. Canada relies almost exclusively on the US for pharma developments. In these countries, if you have cancer, heart disease or other major illnesses, you chance of surviving are between 30% and 70% less, as compared to the US. This goes for so many other things to. The US, spends 5%GDP on defense, yet most of NATO spends less than 2%, because the US subsidies them. Same goes with all the American industries in Japan, S. Korea, China, Taiwan. Our government paid these countries to take whole industries from the US. Electronics, Computer chips, you name it and our government subsidized, it in those countries. Next time you think about regs, think about who us writing them(big pharna and the FDA) , why and who profits, because it is not the little guy. How many people no longer use Uber, to earn a few extra bucks a week?

[@twoHRdrive]

Ads are my absolute sworn enemy. We have to find a way to fight them. They're finding ways to crack down on us.

[@mjetektman9313]

for me, my way of fighting is adblock and piracy

[@AdamSmith-gs2dv]

Start by switching to Firefox, it's the only browser not based on Chrome

[@dand3975]

I hit the volume mute during streaming adds, many times fall asleap.

[@misstanya7487]

Welcome to George Orwell's future vision of 1984 in 2024 and the movie They Live by John Carpenter combined so we can be flooded with ads containing subliminal messages to obey, no independent thought, have no imagination, watch tv, conform, stay asleep, do not question authority, buy, and consume. Do any of you get the picture of what's going on ? People need to learn how to read between the lines. Ignorance is not bliss because it can eventually get you deleted and put you at the pearly gates earlier than expected.

[@Owlr4ider]

Hollywood simply refuses to learn... Whereas Spotify managed to save the music industry thanks to being a centralized streaming service with all(well absolute majority at least) content available on it for a reasonable price(either consuming ads or paying a modest subscription fee) Hollywood did have the same with Netflix back in the day but rather than maintain Netflix' status instead we now have Hulu, Amazon Prime, Disney+, Peacock, etc. So while the music industry is no longer crippled by piracy as it used to be(which almost caused it to collapse entirely), Hollywood is becoming more vulnerable to piracy with every passing day. When you add Hollywood's insistence on shoving their progressive politics down everyone's throats at every opportunity, it in turns only makes their customers much more willing to resort to piracy again without feeling bad about it.

[@PepeTheJonkler]

Do you remember when we used to bust up monopolies, and just played it as a board game instead? _Pepperidge Farm remembers._

[@nintendoconvert4045]

😂 “Remember when you hit that pedestrian with your car? Pepperidge Farm remembers…”

[@GalacticTE]

I got rid of cable when I started counting the number of ads in each break, realizing I was paying $150 a mo for 12-15 commercials each break. I was paying to watch ads basically. And I’m never going back. Ever.

[@GalacticTE]

I hate streaming rn, also, I should not be surprised that something good for us, would be ruined for more profit for gd corporations. We are all just dollar signs.

[@davelowe1977]

Here's how I want this to work: they publish a catalog of available programming. I find something I want to watch. I pay for that programme, then I press a button and it instantly starts streaming with no ads or promotions or anything. That's it.

[@WildArtistsl]

I have a feeling your wish will come true...man this sounds so dystopian how we get here

[@hastyscorpion]

I mean that exists. Amazon and Apple do that.

[@isaachayman9231]

@@hastyscorpionAmazon does not anymore.

[@kphoria1009]

but that would be more expensive than the monthly cost

[@Tiny_Koi]

It already works like that on quite a few platforms

[@nepsyasudra3262]

I'll say it, even scream it, even if people don't like it! PHYSICAL MEDIA IS KING!

[@n8chz]

You grew up thinking streaming was a disruption. It ended up being an enshittification.

[@dianevanderlinden3480]

yeah a lot of disruption is really just opportunism. We'll make this our own and take the cash hahaha

[@abcdeshole]

I don’t miss having to watch a program at exactly 8 o’clock or whatever.

[@johnatkinson1111]

Streaming is a market that can’t have too many competitors otherwise no one will win. You’d need to reach a critical mass of users so it has to either become packaged deals or platforms merging like Disney and Hulu. My bet is Netflix is going to eventually merge with one of the smaller giants like peacock or paramount+ but it’ll still be Netflix as it’s the brand name that has the most legacy.

[@eljoel89]

Corporate mergers and consolidation into oligopolies. Then pretending that this never happens when customers get pissed. Two ISPs, three cellular carriers, etc.

[@snil4]

There's no good solution, we either have too much competition or too little competition. I would prefer a good competition but this industry is led by already media giants, and anyone who will want to enter this race would have to bring both a better service, a better price, and better content than what's available on other platforms, which would be quite impossible for any small company today.@@eljoel89

[@marcmcpherson6960]

I canceled all of my subscription streaming services and signed up for Cable again. I looked at the cost of cable in my area, and added up the costs of all of the subscriptions I had and they were the same. Also, if you're a traditional cable subscriber, you can access on-demand content from various streaming services at no additional cost by logging into your cable account.

[@evancombs5159]

Streaming isn't for everyone, for many people cable is the correct solution for their needs.

[@andrew1498]

Chevron deference basically allows federal agencies, who are led by people that we didn’t vote for, to err on the side of them always being right. Even if said agency doesn’t actually have the authority to enforce that rule or law, they’ll go ahead and do so anyways. All Americans should be on the side of three letter agencies not having the ability to just give itself more power just because.

[@tacticallemon7518]

Yea, there shouldn’t be unelected public servants The government should be a tool used by the people, not the other way around The big issue with the weakening of the Chevron Deference is that with an increasingly conservative SCOTUS, things just won’t get regulated And especially considering the political divide in the US, and the fact that a staggering amount of Americans hear “regulation” and “infringing freedoms” interchangeably Just look at the overturning of Roe v. Wade Conservatives were spinning it as “federal choice turned into state choice”, as a good thing, because it was removing regulation In reality, it brought abortion access from a personal choice, protected by the federal government, and allowed states to deny it for any reason Because it wasn’t *Big* government making your choice, there was no complaints

[@robderiche]

Now is a great time to stock up on DVDs. Thrift stores are full of them. Not only will you own it, but it can’t be bowdlerized by twitchy censors.

[@Adz231]

Why not just stream illegally

[@freeman10000]

It is the golden age of cheap DVD's that's for sure.

[@CornbreadOracle]

@@Adz231because it can be censored

[@Adz231]

@@CornbreadOracle people take the dvd version of the movie and stream it if you didnt know

[@cloudycolacorp]

I don’t really have the space to accumulate stacks of DVDs (which are starting to undergo disk rot) I will continue to magically have films appear on my hard drive

[@brettjenkins1645]

This video is punching way above its weight. Extremely well researched, well performed, and well edited. I’m subscribing to see if we can’t get that number up where I expected to be in the first place! Thanks for your hard work!

[@robw7381]

@@KrashCode Dude loves regulation and boosters

[@garaschneider4808]

Events like this make me proud of learning how to use bit-torrent in my youth.

[@LuigiL75]

AYE AYE CAPTAIN!!! 🫡 🏴‍☠ ⛴

[@carolitoffana]

I only pay for Spotify, I have embraced piracy since Amazon Prime decided that you had to pay a subscription inside the subscription that u already signed to watch things they put in the main page, and disney wanted to charge to watch recently released movies for 10x the subscription price. It's not like I'm hurting anyone since these companies doesn't really pay anyone fairly so...I don't care

[@carolitoffana]

@@CraigScottFrost that's because tour makes money, not songs

[@MichaelWashingtonAE]

As a musician, I have to tell you that it's Spotify who screws us THE MOST. What they paid out even before their recent change was a joke. Now for many of us pay is non existent even when our work is streamed. They way Spotify is setup, you all who use it (paying or not) are stealing from us.....

[@MichaelWashingtonAE]

​@@carolitoffanaTouring made real $ 3 decades ago, now only if you're doing an off Broadway theatre tour, Cirque du Soliel or with a major artist that has millions to billions of true fans around the world who is also independent so they get 100% of their own merch. Besides that, you might barely survive if you don't have rent or mortgage back home to pay for.

[@carolitoffana]

@@MichaelWashingtonAE I believe you, that's why music is dying, I can't even remember the last time I heard a new song/artist that was actually interesting, everything is just a product to the labels nowadays, not art anymore. And the good artists can't make a living out of it :/

[@pills-]

Damn, i can't even imaging pirating from Amazon, Netflix, or Disney. Most of the media they have AREN'T EVEN WORTH PIRATING.

[@panqueque445]

Ads in streaming services are worse than cable ads because you can't escape them. At least with cable, you could change the channel for 5 minutes (or whatever the usual ad time was) and then go back. You HAVE to sit through a streaming app. Most you can do is look down at your phone and tune out the audio as best you can.

[@FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr]

True. When it works out that way. Though when I flipped channels, I swear every channel had ads rolling.

[@HannahEWolfe]

Mute it

[@lasarousi]

Channel surfing is the original adblock

[@jannettb7930]

I just canceled my Prime and Netflix. I got pissed off because on prime only bad movies were available without paying extra. I can understand renting a new movie, but when I have to pay extra to watch a movie from 1985, what's the point?

[@michah321]

And $5 to watch, and the sd discount is gone

[@brunaoliveira1413]

This is very VERY intersting, im a brazilian lawyer, and Brazil is one of the biggest Netflix watchers in the world and we have a long and deep culture of regulation, similar to federal agencies. But no one has ever tried to regulate streamings in Brazil, because, well, they would just...LEAVE. And that's intersting because if the country that these companies were created ever do aprove this legislation it would open the field to us to regulate it to.

[@VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM]

The lower prices were just teaser prices, to get everyone hooked. A lot of times they were losing money. Prices rises were inevitable if they were to keep going and to be able to keep adding content. They always go too far though because of ultra greed, it's going to keep getting a lot worse. I knew it was coming, no way we were going to stay in those golden years. People were dreaming if they thought they would have everything in one place with no ads and only 7.99 forever.

[@jimbojimson]

I'm so confused by the fact that Netflix existed before 2000, and that they offered streaming in 2007. I vividly remember their mail order DVD rental commercials and seemingly everybody discovering them when I was in middle school, which would've been 2005-2008. I was still renting DVDs until the mid 2010s, and I don't remember exactly when I found out about streaming, but it had to be a good 5 years after Netflix apparently started offering it. I'm so confused by this timeline

[@Otome_chan311]

the answer is: roll outs of products take time, especially back then when most people were not on the internet. nowadays a company can announce something and everyone knows about it the day of. But back then you sometimes didn't hear about stuff for literal years, if ever. There's also the fact that trends happen in bell curves. The early adopters are first, then the masses, and then some people who are late adopters. I had netflix on my nintendo wii which released in 2006. The way it worked was netflix would mail you a dvd (their standard model at the time) and then you install the netflix app onto the wii via the disk, and after that you could stream. Remember that back then wifi also really wasn't a thing, so most people *weren't* streaming. They didn't have a smart tv, they didn't have a laptop, nor a smart phone. So any streaming was done via a desktop computer or some specialist setup. Basically: while netflix offered streaming, it wasn't widely used until later. They did a dual "send dvds" + streaming setup for a while. it wasn't an instant switch.

[@kaitlyn__L]

Netflix streaming had hardly anything in 07, and the quality was pretty bad. So DVD rentals were still their main business. But they were building the infrastructure, and buying similar companies in other countries, while making those deals with studios from 2010-2012 which brought on enough content to get people to try it again/for the first time. If you’re so inclined you can go back and look at sponsor spots for (video) podcasts 2006-2009. In 06 they’re only talking about DVDs. In 07 they mention streaming for selected titles so you don’t even have to wait! By 09 & 10 they were focused on the streaming with a brief mention you could also get DVDs if your internet wasn’t good enough.

[@Munenushi]

now look up why churches have stained glass windows of 'a lion and a lamb' when it has never been in the bible that way... it has 'always been', and is now, "the wolf shall lay with the lamb", on the text, in ink on the paper. do not look up "mandela effect" and look at examples. do not.

[@polylight]

I was a beta user of Netflix streaming, it was VHS quality and I watched Alfred Hitchcock Presents episodes in part because the B&W was less demanding. I used disc rental from 2000 until they shut down last September...it was great having access to 85,000 titles and I averaged about $1.75 per disc.

[@HerculesMays]

I strongly encourage everyone to get into buying physical media again, be it DVDs or VHS tapes. You can often find DVDs and VHS tapes for maybe a buck each, and often even lower when buying in bulk, and that's content you'll never have to pay for again, never have to worry about being flipped to another streaming service, it's YOURS. I got a big collection of VHS tapes for stupid cheap, and it sure beats paying 70 bucks a month for content I don't even own.

[@BLACKAAROW]

same thing with video games. this is literally "you'll own nothing and be happy" in real time. they don't want people owning anything anymore that's why they push all this digital stuff

[@e.corellius4495]

@@BLACKAAROW man, imagine the literal riots that would happen if Valve decided to just close up shop and shut down steam. that would definitely revive physical media lol.

[@Sariahsariah0815]

Maybe blockbuster can have a comeback, but now instead sell DVDs and VHS, I'm for it

[@GlennHamblin]

I'm not sure that more regulations make anything better. Certain lobbyists will ensure more monopolies. Allowing consumers to pick winners and losers works better and corporations will have to change to remain profitable.

[@robbiehasnobones]

i will never forgive netflix for cancelling inside job.

[@HesTheDummyNotMe]

This is ethical and based

[@eljoel89]

I miss Reagan. Ridley, not Ronald.

[@norml.hugh-mann]

Yeah...netflix cancels anything good

[@adamk-paxlogan7330Sucks]

I haven't forgiven netflix for getting rid of shows that was doing good and they cancle it leaving it on a damn cliffhanger,I don't think I ever heard of inside job,but I bet it was a good show

[@rrrrrrr303]

It's Mindhunter for me.

[@liguy181]

I don't really care to pirate but something I've been doing recently is borrowing movies/shows from my local public library if I can't get a show on a streaming service. I don't have Hulu but I'm on season 3 of It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia because of this. Your local library probably has a lot more to offer - all for free - than you realize

[@FROBcom]

You also get access to Kanopy with your library card

[@JohnPannozzi]

See if your local library is affiliated with Hoopla Digital.

[@brittany16950]

I saw this coming from 100 miles away. In 2014, when I decided to be a cord cutter, I hired a professional to install a Mohu Sky on the roof of my house and wire it into every room in my house. Free TV. Plenty of over the air content.

[@desuretard8654]

How many channels does it pick up? Got any interesting local stations?

[@brittany16950]

@@desuretard8654 no. Local only, but for me that’s enough!

[@brittany16950]

@@desuretard8654 approximately 30-40 channels

[@ScottAlanMillerVlog]

The FCC has rights over cable because it uses public infrastructure. The FCC doesn't have rights over streaming because it's peer to peer private communications without a monopoly grant. The government granted cable companies local monopolies in exchange for regulation that would otherwise countermand free speech. To regulate streaming services in the same way would violate constitutional protections putting regulations on free speech and journalism.

[@scottguitar8168]

Netflix had the solution to password sharing when they only allowed so many streams on your account and you had to pay extra to include more streams. This meant you could watch Netflix anywhere but if you had only 3 streams but 4 people tried to watch 4 separate streams, that last one can't connect with a message that all streams were tied up and you could add an extra stream for so much money.

[@KitVictorious]

Netflix with their password crack down only shot themselves in the foot! I had the family plan so that my daughter who lives in another state could share my account but with Netflix attempt to stop password sharing I ended up getting a single plan that's more than half the amount that I was paying before. Netflix announced that cracking down on password sharing has been a success & they are getting more subscribers but is it's really a win-win for them or are people just getting the cheapest subscription & they are just making the same amount of money?

[@GeeEee75]

So you're saying that your daughter hasn't taken out her own Netflix subscription now that she can no longer access your account? I'm guessing that, even if she hasn't, then a lot of other people in the same situation have.

[@pills-]

This is just the first step for Netflix rolling out ads on the cheapest subscriptions.

[@dany_fg]

I think there's an easy solution to this but I can't put my hook on it.

[@JohnSmith_1331]

Ask your parrot, maybe he knows.

[@ljdgraphics2072]

The answer is so simple… you don’t like the price hikes, then you don’t allow them access to your credit card every month. The will be forced to drop their prices.

[@BenjaminWalburn]

That's not a solution, that's wishful thinking from someone who can't comprehend scale or the tech industry.

[@SiincereARC]

In fair for Cable, I was an adult when streaming started so I actually miss Cable. The main issue with cable were Cable Company monopolies. Outside of that, cable was great. Commercials weren't bad either. Firstly, in todays world, you can spend one whole year with Google inputting 4 Google Fi ads in 1video. The same ad, the same music over and over again. At least with cable you had variety in the commercials. Also, commercials happened at appropriate times of a show. It also was like a mini break from what you were watching if you needed to get up for a sec. Online ads happen literally whenever they want at this point and you never know if it'll be 1 ad that you can skip or 4 ads that play straight through. It also helped that Cable allowed you to pace yourself with what you were watching. Streaming a whole season in one sitting was amazing in 2015 and just draining and a bit problematic in 2024. I wouldn't mind cable but I do mind cable prices. With streaming, it just ramps up piracy at this point.

[@johanalejandrocazadordepin7225]

That's your case, commercials in my country could last up to 8 or 9 minutes. That's insane

[@Buglin_Burger7878]

I don't recall much variety in commercials, it was often the same 10 commercials over and over and over and it was worse because if you walked away and missed the start of the show you were out of luck. There was no rewind. So you had to sit there and had to pay attention.

[@hypernovatv911]

Miss cable? Are you crazy? About five or six years ago I came to visit my father, who is old and has never got on board with streaming. I hadn’t had cable since 2010 and I was extremely frustrated the two weeks that I stayed with him. The Hunt for red October came on three times a day for the entire 19 days that I was there. And I don’t know about you, but I don’t need ED pills so watching ED pill commercials every 15 minutes was insulting. I was so happy when I went back home to my Hulu service. Any streaming service that introduces commercials will be canceled ASAP.

[@SiincereARC]

@@hypernovatv911You're talking about Cable today, I'm talking about Cable pre-streaming. They are in no way the same Cable outside of high price.

[@calculator91]

Cable televisions standard was 1/3 of broadcasting time for ads. For every one minute you watched, 20 seconds were commercials. That's awful for a paid service.

[@nhlcbj]

Gaming is starting to go the same route too. With Microsoft buying activision blizzard now it’s more likely publishers are going to creating their own cloud services with their own pricing and tiers. Problem is the cloud is not reliable. Like streaming in 4k it isn’t seamless, even if you have good internet. Stock up on physical content while you can and resort to piracy at your own risk.

[@cccycling5835]

Foreal. I’d rather deal with errors in physical media, at least I know where the errors are and not constantly buffering and going fuzzy randomly through the best part of the movie that I’m showing someone for the first time.

[@trevor_mounts_music]

what risk? lmao

[@jenot7164]

Really? I thought cloud gaming is dead.

[@zombiebullshark3834]

I remember when netflix was 4 dollars a month and that included unlimited dvds sent to your home you never have to return

[@dblissmn]

You're not going to fix this problem without aggressive government regulation to prevent bundling and some big relaxations in how we handle copyright. The trends in government since the 1970s have been in the opposite direction, deregulating broadcast delivery and granting absurd increases in copyright power, especially the time that copyright lasts.

[@applesthehero]

rather than price capping, the best solution is to ban exclusive content licenses, and require services to allow third parties to license their first party content at a reasonable rate. The reason prices are so high is because services don't have to compete with each other - if you want to watch certain content, you must pay for the service that owns, there's no alternative