How Strong IS Jonathan Joestar?

Feel the beat of Jonathan's Hamon!
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[@JobberGodot]

No, I did not hire an editor for this lol

[@kylonbell123]

This is outstanding my favorite Jojo I couldn't ask for more.

[@samuelgaming2124]

jonathan might be the strongest in hand to hand combat if stands didn't exist

[@weskintime4177]

Dude I got into an argument and he said not only is Jonathan not light speed, but JOSEPH POST-TRAINING is not light speed+.

[@weskintime4177]

Well he had his arms frozen instantly with 0 drawbacks after thawing them out, even cutting a guy in half, he tore apart a metal collar that even Tarukus couldn’t break, and he trained under William Zeppli. Also in the movie of Phantom Blood, William Zeppli and Tonpetty shake hands blowing up clouds covering like 10-15 mountain tops to the edge of the screen, which Jonathan in the movie scales above.

[@ChadBenjamin]

Jonathan is pretty much the physically strongest human in the series. He was able to pull apart a thick steel collar with his bare hands, which even Tarkus couldn't do. And let's not forget that Zeppeli stated that Hamon can't destroy steel, so that feat was all Jonathan.

[@wasabi5338]

Not just that but even before he had any idea of what hamon is, he wrestled vampire Dio in that burning mansion as a human fucking being. Dio was previously shown ripping the cops off with ease just by his hands but Jonathan tackled him through a brickwall, during the fall Dio said he broke Jonathan's shoulders but Jonathan kept bearhugging him. Underrated Jonathan feat.

[@ChadBenjamin]

@@organicelephant5416 On the one hand, seeing old man Jonathan would be great. On the other hand, Jonathan's death was what allowed us to get all the other JoJos. You can't have Joseph without Erina rescuing Lisa Lisa, you can't have Josuke or Jotaro without Joseph, you can't have Giorno without Dio taking Jonathan's body, and you can't have Jolyne without Jotaro. Parts 2-6 all happened as a result of Jonathan's death.

[@ChadBenjamin]

@@organicelephant5416 Yup, without Jonathan's body being taken over by Dio, we wouldn't get Parts 3-6 at all since Dio was connected to the Stand Arrows and to Pucci.

[@bacongod5759]

@@ChadBenjamin actually I imagine he would defeat dio on the ship but Lisa Lisa parents died so they raise her and George joestar the second still grows up and marries Lisa Lisa and have Jospeh’s and everything still goes accordingly

[@ChadBenjamin]

@@bacongod5759 But then that would be like George II marrying his sister, the reason why it worked with Jonathan's death is because Erina couldn't take care of two babies on her own so she gave Lisa Lisa away to Straizo. But if Jonathan was still alive, he and Erina would raise them together as siblings and so they would probably not marry each other and therefore we wouldn't get Joseph.

[@ganges2264]

We didn't count the fact that he effortlessly lifted tarkus weight and shook a mountain using hamon.

[@Chuck]

Brilliant editing man!

[@red_hdx6848]

I could never find a video explaining this without it being Kaleb IA, so thank you for explaining it.

[@Lifegotmid]

He is easily *8-A* or *Multi-City block level*

[@julianbarria9743]

multi-city block level? I see it as difficult for it to come to that, I see it as perfectly feasible for it to be a city block level but multi-city block level?

[@fiber2141]

Let’s not forget he solod a vampire with one hand and punch(attack)

[@l0sts0ul89]

A true gentleman preses the like button.

[@JobberGodot]

My favorite comment 😂

[@NikoIsGodly]

@@JobberGodot I refuse to press the like button!

[@ndprod.animationenthusiast9376]

Oh. You posted your Jonathan video. I’ve always wanted to see a scaling video for Jonathan (besides Death Battle of course).

[@abdallahalharbi9807]

great video man keep up the good work👍 also can you make a power scaling video about the pillar men that would be awesome

[@kazuhirokawamoto7213]

the very first rush attack in the series is just Jonathan punching with his bare hands !!

[@kaiserwave5977]

Don't care what anyone says Jonathan will always be my favorite joestar

[@ten-thousandbees8453]

His descendants fought him in Eyes of Heaven and each of them including Jotaro are glad he doesn't have a stand.

[@sherminatoranalysis3429]

This was damn good looking video

[@dolphinman6499]

0:57 SLAMS TABLE ITS RUGBY

[@rodthedigger2902]

Great video! Jonathan TOP 3 JOJO for me!

[@diorno2082]

this video is underrated

[@onmywaytolife3660]

Chadathan joestar

[@terrorbilly3367]

i'd say jonathan could potentially defeat even yujiro hanma, this man while holding back can backhand someone and break their teeth. like teeth are apparently as strong as diamonds

[@ten-thousandbees8453]

let's hope Yujiro doesn't figure out Hamon during the fight.

[@spookybones2248]

now it's time for the baki vs part 2 joseph

[@JobberGodot]

👀

[@spookybones2248]

@@JobberGodot there’s some pretty cool scaling for Baki ngl it would be a cool video. You could do a part with Baki vs Jospeh with normal stats. And one with equal speed

[@JobberGodot]

I’ll DEFINITELY consider it, sounds like a demon video idea 😈

[@spookybones2248]

@@JobberGodot if you ever make it it’ll be the first there 👀

[@fiber2141]

Joesph would pull a tommy gun out of his back pocket during the fight

[@nadroji6549]

Great video, but you got a few things wrong, Jonathan's speed is infinite & his AP/DC is universal.

[@aguila-wg3ug]

Who do you think would win a fight between Jonathan and All Might from mha?

[@JobberGodot]

Unless MHA has gotten FTL+ to MFTL+ I’d say Jonathan, he ain’t stronger than All Might but Hamon should durability negate him (especially if it’s All Might after his prime, but then again MAYBE in his prime he has resistance to durability negation via internals, I don’t know)

[@phoenixwright2420]

@@JobberGodot if it's just internal damge dura neg, all might can handle one for all which damages the users internally and externally to the point it could explode your body from inside out

[@underscore2736]

All Might would absolutely CRUSH Jonathan.

[@aguila-wg3ug]

​@@JobberGodot Arguments for mha being ftl do actually exist. From what I've heard, Shigaraki dodged radio waves which are just light but at a different frequency, Aoyama's laser which is a complete fodder quirk was stated to be light multiple times by Present Mic and the Invisible Girl who has a technique where she reflects light used Aoyama's laser for it a couple of times. Althought I haven't kept up with the manga, so I don't know how valid these arguments are, but they do exist.

[@somerandomdude827]

@@phoenixwright2420 that was overcome by deku with q light training montage it’s head cannon to say the means he could survive getting turned inside out

[@seanao32]

Can you do how strong is Joseph next.

[@JobberGodot]

Even better I'll do Joseph vs someone

[@ghayasanwar]

What do you think is more overpowered: Hokuto shinken or Hamon? And why?

[@JobberGodot]

Hokuto Shinken, touch of death Hax lol

[@DIEFORME173]

Hokuto Shinken by far Lmao 🤣

[@phoenixwright2420]

@@JobberGodot forgot fate haxx too

[@wasabi5338]

hokuto shinken ofc lmao it can literally get you to heaven lol Raoh punched the sky when he was dying so he can go to heaven in the afterlife

[@vbar964]

Can you do someone from this vs compared to naruto?

[@JobberGodot]

Probably Joseph Joestar vs Shikamaru is the most likely

[@silktm9457]

Seth would cry if he seen this 😭..

[@ultrainstinctstega]

His chest must feel good

[@darkage951]

W

[@WallyWestEXE]

Is it logical?

[@fateenergy1360]

in terms of strength i think jonathan is a solid 536.

[@chardeelives4703]

Explainations why Joestar blood DIO = phantom blood Dio and Jonathan?

[@JobberGodot]

it only restores Dio’s regeneration and stats back to his p1 prime self, no other things saying it’s an amp superior to p1 dio, Dio also asserts the opposite

[@darksith7282]

@@JobberGodot This is late but HIGH DIO pretty much says that he's way stronger than when he became a vampire in part 1.

[@somerandomdude827]

@@darksith7282 he dosnt say that he just says that it’s his greatest high Pre blood amp dio is physically weaker than part 1 dio

[@darksith7282]

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[@lukeladin]

Jobber, are you by chance also speak portuguese?

[@JobberGodot]

unfortunately no

[@lukeladin]

Oh, ok, just tought so because the ship calc that appeared in the video was in a message written in portuguese 😅

[@wasabi5338]

Strongest human fucking being in the verse lol.

[@societygoku6376]

Can he beat Goku?

[@JobberGodot]

lol

[@datboy038]

💀 with kindness yes

[@underscore2736]

Okay, the editing isn't bad, but you're mistaken on most of your points. First off, Jonathan never perception blitzed Dio. Dio was looking away from Jonathan while talking, and Jonathan simply ran off before he looked back. The lifting multiple grown men is impressive, but not perception blitzing. Secondly, Zepelli says the energy created by hamon is the same as the sun itself, as he's referring to the effect it has on vampires who are vulnerable to the sun. However, hamon clearly is not the same as the sun's rays, as it doesn't mimic their shape, nor does it behave similarly besides the fact that it can damage vampires in the same way that the sun does. Zepelli also states that hamon is life energy, formed from the user's blood into ripples. This, combined with the fact that hamon doesn't produce heat, is adequate evidence that is is in fact, not light. Third, Tarkus splitting the cliff is only a building level feat, not city block level. while he did cut off a roughly city-block sized chunk, the portion he physically cut wasn't comparable. Additionally, the calc you linked for Tarkus lifting a boulder wasn't even accepted. Additionally, Dio's SRSE being referred to as light is just Araki not understanding how speed works. Previously he had Speedwagon say that Dio moves comparably to a leopard, so unless leopards in the Jojo universe are multiple times the speed of light, it's simply an inconsistency or hyperbole by Jonathan. Also, we see Straizo's SRSE bend unnaturally when they come into contact with a cup (Unnatural for both pressurized fluid and light but still), meaning they don't even behave like light. Fourth, your argument for DIO's low godly regeneration is very poor. His fleshbuds adversely affected Okuyasu's father, but 1. it's implied that Okuyasu's father is the exception, as it's stated in part 3 that had Kakyoin kept the flesh bud in him, he would have died in a few weeks/months, and 2. Say that Okuyasu's dad isn't the exception, DIO's regeneration in both parts 1 and 3 are nowhere near the level of regeneration that Okuyasu's father has, making it an outlier.) And finally, neither Dio nor Jonathan scale to the ship explosion, regardless of what you calc it at. Jonathan implied that the explosion would kill him or at least put him in danger, and unless you want to say Erina scales to city level in durability and AP, it's more likely that Dio simply entered his coffin before the ship exploded.

[@JobberGodot]

I think your first and third point is heavily debatable, while rest of what you said is completely wrong and fallacious. Join my discord server and hop in vc so we can properly discuss this discord.gg/n4rWbmzGRB , because you should know if you payed attention, that I don’t like text debating. P.S. you’re not gonna get jumped or anything, the discussion will be calm and reasonable

[@underscore2736]

@@JobberGodot Alright I joined

[@justosmmn4472]

@@JobberGodotwho was right?