The Strongest Joestar in JoJo (According to Araki)

In this video i go over who Araki The author of Jojo's bizzare adventure Believes is the Strongest Joestar in the ENTIRE Jojo's bizzare adventure Franchise. Who do you think is the strongest?
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[@jaqcole]

Join the discord in the description

[@Stereotypicalduh]

Dio just was cocky while fighting jotaro

[@Stereotypicalduh]

But still Jonathan is the strongest jostar in strength

[@JohnnyBoi-11153]

@@Stereotypicalduh The JoJos Ranked in Physical Strength: 1. Jonathan Joestar 2. Jotaro Kujo 3. Joseph Joestar 4. Josuke Higashikata (Gappy) 5. Josuke Higashikata 6. Jolyne Cujoh 7. Johnny Joestar w/ Legs 8. Giorno Giovanna 9. Jodio Joestar

[@Stereotypicalduh]

Thanks bro

[@Xziuto]

Yo we have about the same amount of subs

[@tuanpiang]

Funnily enough, in the games the joestar all say something like Jonathan was strong without a stand, and are terrified of the thought of his power if he were to acquire one.

[@SaguaroTheCactusCat]

Funny thing is he did get a stand and it was literally just hermit purple

[@Sifi999]

@@SaguaroTheCactusCatyeah but technically it was just dios stand but using jonathans body

[@SaguaroTheCactusCat]

@@Sifi999 it’s still Jonathan’s stand I mean.. the stand is literally called “Jonathan’s stand” kinda in the name

[@Aquila666]

It was so powerfull that provided all his descendents strong stands

[@NolanDraconis]

I usually think that what we saw of Jonathan’s stand wasn’t a complete one, as in like it wasn’t in its fullest state or never seen beyond one of its abilities

[@krityanegi6227]

The fact that he is physiclly stronger then half of stands show how strong he is

[@jaqcole]

indeed

[@You-qe2bx]

@@jaqcoleyou were kinda wrong on how Jonathan were to punch a wall vs tusk punching a wall the wall takes time to damage more with tusk than Jonathan judging you completely ignored the fact Tusk has crazy strength as well than just having infinite rotations on his side yeah Jonathan is strong as well but realistically speaking Jonathan can’t get to tusk at all. Even if Jonathan did have speed or unrealistically TIMESTOP johnny can still move through it all easily and he’s not a vampire so hamon would do damage but not as much as it would DIO also with GER I agree that ger has little to no durability because being seen to be defeated by only one punch by diavolo but that’s if jonathan can even touch ger if he’s even able to get to ger, I agree with your statements with jonathan just had a couple reasons on why things would go differently when it comes to jonathan being the best and strongest joestar but it doesn’t mean some joestars can’t defeat him. JoJos whole plot and story came from Jonathan’s balls

[@yotryhofficial]

​@@You-qe2bxI ain't reading allat

[@Sifi999]

@@You-qe2bx womp womp

[@panriot5106]

@@jaqcolebruh i dont think so cuz star platinum fucking destroyed a school by uppercutting kakyoin

[@christophermonteith2774]

Honestly think that all the jojos kind of cancel each other out. As the parts go on, they get less raw power, but better hax, as a general rule.

[@jaqcole]

That’s what I’m saying lmao. Jonathan is the strongest but I think jotaro beats him

[@AQWChancer]

i think is jotaro had hamon, he would be the undeniable "strongest".@@jaqcole

[@ohhellwhereami2574]

​@@jaqcolei mean that's random because being born a hamon prodigy is different than having strong stand but if he can somehow reach high degree in hamon he will be absolute tank

[@windego64]

I think if he also had spin and vampirism he would be the strongest JoJo.​@@AQWChancer

[@AQWChancer]

@@windego64 but you can’t have hamon and vampirism

[@-NieR-Reincarnation-]

It's funny Johnathan was always my favored character, and I always had the thought of him being the strongest

[@jaqcole]

Thanks man

[@jaqcole]

He’s my favorite too

[@michaelbrooks886]

Johnathan doesn't get enough respect..him and Joseph are my favorite Joestar's..

[@-NieR-Reincarnation-]

True that and I agree with the Joseph statement too @@michaelbrooks886

[@spiralgodking9877]

​@@jaqcole Oh my God, I am happy to meet fellow Jonathan enjoyers. He's always been my favorite because of his status as a paragon of righteousness. And in the games, the other family members always treat him with reverence, as he essentially became the Joestar patriarch.

[@vrooommmm9631]

Bro, just imagine if jotaro learned hamon while also using star platinum

[@jaqcole]

ikr

[@calebcollins5887]

He probably wouldn’t have been able to use it much against Dio, as even a Hamon prodigy like his ancestors needed time to train and Jotaro didn’t really have time for much training, he might’ve been able to pick up some of the basics details of it, but not enough. Also while Jotaro is clever his main strategy is always to get in close and take out his opponent, Dio is clever and if by some miracle hamon could effect the World, all that would do is make Dio more cautious and possibly lead to him running away the minute he felt a true threat.

[@ohhellwhereami2574]

​@@calebcollins5887i guess this is assuming if jotaro had time in that case it's definitely useful

[@kreativer_brotmensch5800]

duuude star platinum throwing zoompunch and overdrives

[@Gamer-qr8ee]

@@calebcollins5887 Just teach it to SP Weve all seen how he can breathe

[@kiryukazuma7960]

The first three JoJo's have something the other JoJo's didn't, a boost from the writer or plot armor. Especially Joseph and Jotaro. There were so many instances where these two would've died but still manage to come out on top. There's just something so mysterious about these guys and how they had to be held back through some weakness, whether it is not getting a powerup or old age.

[@jaqcole]

Legit

[@Abicated]

At least Joseph had Hamon supercharging his body.

[@brendonw456]

​​@@jaqcole I gotta be honest...it's physically impossible, according to the lore presented in the series, for Jonathan to be stronger than Joseph. Jonathan could barely handle Dio, and he still died doing that. Dio...is factually weaker than the Pillar Men, according to what the lore lays out in Battle Tendency. In fact, the Pillar Men see vampires as...food. The stone mask grants humans a fraction of the Pillar Men's strengths, and expands their weakness (i.e. to sunlight and Hamon). Joseph fought and killed one...and then IMMEDIATELY continued into fighting another, stronger one...that then literally became the Ultimate Being in the world. I won't count Joseph's victory against Kars as a testament to his strength (it wasn't), but the fact is he still NEARLY killed Kars before his transformation. And Kars was far and away the strongest opponent before he ever became Ultimate Kars. Pillar Men >>>>>>> Vampires >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Base Humans That's the strength scale we're looking at...even a particularly strong vampire couldn't beat a Pillar Man, even if the Pillar Men couldn't just immediately devour them. Even if the Pillar Men could be killed via some method other than Hamon (which vampires can't use). The vampires, at base, are just physically weaker than the Pillar Men. The Stone Mask effect on humans just turns them into weak imitations of the Pillar Men This is specifically why Araki has never outright stated this OUTRAGEOUS claim. Because he literally, objectively, removes that idea from debate in the VERY NEXT PART

[@jaqcole]

@@brendonw456 not reading all that. join the discord

[@brendonw456]

@@jaqcole Fine. Here's the TLDR: Part 2 clearly states the Pillar Men are stronger than vampires. Joseph killed 1, solo, and then nearly killed another, stronger one, immediately after. Dio is a vampire. Jonathan had to push himself to death to handle a weaker version of what Joseph dealt with.

[@sonpanchan]

Araki made a chart of all the JoJos up to part 5 (he had yet to do Stone Ocean back when he did this and was doing Vento Aureo) where he did the stats for the JoJos’ physical strength, explosive power, intelligence, willpower, looks, and luck, similar to how he does with stand stats. You can find them in Weekly Shonen Jump #13 (1997). Jonathan was the only JoJo with an A in physical strength with Jotaro and Joseph having a B and Giorno and Josuke having a C. Jonathan also had A on looks and an A on willpower (the only other JoJo to have an A in these places was Giorno). However Jonathan had a C in explosive power (Josuke was the only one with an A in this section) and he has C on luck(Joseph was the only JoJo with an A) and in his intelligence he had a B (Jotaro and Joseph were the only ones who had an A in intelligence). Basically when it comes to pure physical strength only, Jonathan is the strongest. The script for the Eyes of Heaven game was surpervised by Araki and in it all the other JoJos are surprised at how strong Jonathan for a person that does not have a stand. Jotaro even mentions in one of his winning quotes against Jonathan that he was lucky that Jonathan did not have a stand.

[@koheletcalaforexclan6508]

Yeah, everyone else gets skinny, Jonathan straight up lifts rocks man! And apparently lugged an Anvil up to the top of a mansion just to drop it on a zombie’s head.😂

[@morsayxd]

Pucci enduring the speed of the universe isnt due to his own durability , it due to made in heaven , pucci in accelerated time is the only being in the universe able to keep up with the time acceleration , which is why he seems faster to others but in reality , others are just slower

[@jaqcole]

watch the jotaro vid for a more detialed explaination

[@Ratscallion_exe]

_HEAVEN'S DOORRR_

[@gameworldjt]

1:50 while i dont argue that jonathan is the strongest joestar (i love jonathan), i can't say i agree that part 3 DIO *didn't have access to his vampiric abilities*, specifically for space ripper stingy eyes, he didn't wanna do it because it expels vampiric essence, weakening himself in the process, and he wanted to get The World's time stop abilities to reach their fullest potential (which The World gets a longer timestop the stronger DIO himself is). As for why he didn't use the freezing ability... well he didn't really have a use for in part 3, there was no point at which he was close enough to someone to use it, and even if he did, his intention was to prove that The World is "the ultimate stand"

[@sonpanchan]

The freezing ability is the one vampire ability I can see him not having in Part 3. In Part 1 Dio mentions that he can use his vaporizing freezing technique because he had full mastery and control of his body. In part 3 he does not have full control of Jonathan’s body so it’s only natural to assume he wouldn’t be able to use it even if he wanted to.

[@gameworldjt]

@@sonpanchan that's a fair point

[@orlandobritt1460]

Star platinum the same type of stand

[@bananabanana484]

This is a plausible take, but it’s not actually addressed in the source material. He just kinda doesn’t use any ability other than healing; we can assume he’s lost the powers, or maybe he just didn’t want to use them or didn’t have a good opportunity. But it’s not really for certain

[@_Sage967_]

@@bananabanana484 actually we can assume he very much has all his abilities but we dont know the reason for not using them. he can and does turn people (at least one person) after awakening into a vampire and his flesh parasites are a direct application of his vampire powers. we could infere that the flesh parasites are simply far more efficient than siring entire vampires potentially wasting energy that he's been building up for years. i will say that even though DIO probably had all his powers the only time he'd be willing to use them is in the state after drinking Joseph's blood as that changed him... but stands are just more efficient and he cant use his abilities on star platinum

[@mememongrel7728]

Danm just realized this video only has like 1000 views. Great job man hope the views keep coming. Jhonathan cracked.

[@jaqcole]

Thx man

[@gzilla1955]

I love how the all stars game Johnathan can fight stands with his bare fists

[@sneakykitsune6]

Johnathan is literally physically the strongest, if given a stand he would no doubt out-fighting spirit any other jostar

[@tomatofarmerlarry3331]

The world is Jonathan's stand, with Dio using it

[@azurawolfe5000]

@@tomatofarmerlarry3331 no jonathan has a different variation of hermit purple. the world is dio's stand.

[@gotyournose6479]

@@azurawolfe5000 Incorrect

[@Zeonite-of5lu]

​​@@gotyournose6479No Dios stand is The World. The Passions is Jonathan's stand.

[@gotyournose6479]

@@Zeonite-of5lu Never said anything about Dio's stand I just said that's bs. Passion isn't canon and the hermit purple variant used by DIO was never obtained by Jonathan thus not being an appropriate display of his fighting spirit

[@noncringyperson8630]

Hope Ramadan is going ok for you brother good vid

[@jaqcole]

you too man

[@chocolatebar6785]

i mean johnny tore apart a pocket dimension which should atleast be uni+ strength

[@Random_Enthusiast]

Theres so many assumptions. For example diavolo being weaker than p4 jotaro. Araki didnt EVER have Part 5 in his mind sorted out when p4 was getting written. Also there are many statements by Dio before encountering the crusaders saying if he is able to consume josephs blood or any joestars blood, jonathans body will be his. And theres many hints how Dio had a huge powerup when he sucked Joseph's blood. Breaking jotaros Bones with a simple barrage when 1 punch to Sp in the face at the start of the fight only made jotaro bleed. Also Jotaro was constantly reacting to dio at the start of the fight. But when dio came in for the kicks, jotaro barely is able to block, still gets destroyed cause dio had a strength powerup. Not only that But dio also got his Part 1 regen speed back, after jotaro broke his hand he healed it back shortly after without consuming blood. Hell even before greatest high he healed the punch through the stomach without needing to consume blood.

[@p1xiest1ck6]

Yeah the video is incredibly disingenuous and very heavily giving Jonathan every benefit of the doubt, im sure anyone would win this debate against him

[@Numbers-gStands]

Not sure about him getting his part 1 regen back, he was blown in half from a non-hamon related source and couldn’t recover while straizo who should be relative to part 1 Dio (but most likely is generally weaker) was entirely blown to bits by grenades and recovered fine. I do agree that DIO getting Joseph’s blood was a huge power-up as that’s just what the narrative is telling us but the increase is unquantifiable, but it’s most certainly not back to his part 1 self fully in the physical department. Especially considering how he lost by being hit on his weaker side, which implies that he had far more room for growth in not just his time stop length. As a side note I’d argue it’s also fair to say at least physically Jotaro would outmatch Diavolo with Star Platinum as he showed general superiority over a Silver Chariot in better condition than the one shown in Part 5 while Diavolo had to work around Silver Chariot with his ability and couldn’t outright overpower it. Star Platinum’s stand stats are also generally superior to King Crimson but that’s way less important considering how bizarre they can be.

[@brendonw456]

​@@p1xiest1ck6 I mean...he'd have to explain how Dio Brando is somehow stronger than the Pillar Men, while simultaneously the result of wearing the mask they designed that turns humans into WEAKER and bastardized versions of Pillar Men. Because Joseph soloed one of those Pillar Men and then continued on to fight an even stronger one and NEARLY win *that* fight as well...before that Ultimate Being transformation. And that enemy was so OP that the plot literally just had to force him to lose. But the YTer does conveniently skip over Part 2 entirely...probably because ALL of the lore in that section contradicts the idea of Jonathan being the strongest without dispute.

[@tomboyjessie1352]

YES! Jonathan's getting the respect he deserves! Also, I was wondering why DIO stopped using his Vampiric powers in Part 3, I completely forgot that the body wasn't his let alone not a Vampire.

[@atlasrecordsrusdub9439]

Counter arguement. Why didnt he use hamon? 0_o

[@misterok5978]

⁠@@atlasrecordsrusdub9439 Straizo is a bit of a result of why Dio can't use Hamon. the other problem is that Hamon is still a problem for Dio (even in time stop otherwise he wouldn't need to use a knife to kill Joseph.) He doesn't fully know the hamon And… he has The World so that’s enough for him

[@blox5funfunfun]

​@@atlasrecordsrusdub9439 dio is a vampire if he used hamon he would be dead already

[@blox5funfunfun]

​@@atlasrecordsrusdub9439I can prove that he would die by using hamon as a vampire because straizo used hamon and then his entire body crumbled

[@voiddude4142]

some good shit, cant wait for some more jojo vids.

[@jaqcole]

Thanks man

[@hellbat.]

I thoroughly enjoyed watching this video; the way the content creator meticulously dissected each part of JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure (JJBA) and delved into the character of Jonathan was truly captivating. What stood out to me the most was the level of respect the creator showed towards every character in the series. Their analysis not only provided insightful perspectives but also challenged my preconceived notions. In essence, watching this video completely altered my perspective on JJBA.

[@Czilla1954]

Chatgpt ass reply (no offense if you came up with this)

[@unknownbasic57]

It’s a common thing to think strength=power when in reality they are different. Strength is a more of a physical force and Power is where hax comes in.

[@bananabanana484]

Well, Power is just energy/time. I think you mean fighting ability, which is an understandable distinct. Aqua man can probably lift more than the Flash, but the flash probably wins

[@Malevolence460]

FINALLY the BEST JoJo getting the recognition that he DESERVES!!

[@MoOsHw]

Another one of these, gotta correct you here in that Dio could use his vampiric powers in Part 3, he just thought they were pointless compared to The World

[@jaqcole]

he needed to get closer to jotaro remember after throwing the knifes? So why not just use the sting eyes????

[@poptartninja]

@@jaqcole DIO is very egotistical, wouldn't put it past the guy to refuse to use his "Inferior" abilities

[@MoOsHw]

@@jaqcole Cause he wanted to be cautious and thorough, Star Platinum could deflect it plus it's not as guaranteed a fatal attack as beheading, or as gruesome for that matter, which is what Dio prefers.

[@gameworldjt]

@@jaqcole first, the arguments already listed by other comments, second, space ripper stingy eyes expel vampiric energy, therefore it would be detrimental for him to use it as he would need more blood to regain his strength.

[@vergil6325]

@@MoOsHw well it worked on Jonathan, Jotaro might not expect it since he doesn't even know about vampire abilities, and idk if Star Platinum can deflect the stinger eyes, it might actually go through the stand entirely like a ghost but i'm guessing DIO wouldn't want to risk that anyway

[@jaqcole]

Forgot to mention this video was inspired by @xforts

[@Sifi999]

underrated af dude hope u get more views

[@jaqcole]

Thank you so much

[@seanb1446]

After part 3, the definition of strong turned more and more into who's ability gives them more opportunities to outwit the enemy

[@gyspel4317]

How would Pucci have universal durability? There was a whole explanation on how that happened.

[@jaqcole]

Watch the jotaro vs goku vid in the description. I go in depth there on why he would have that along with jotaro beating him 🤷‍♀️

[@bananabanana484]

Yeah, what? He got punched in the face by weather report and died pretty quickly. He just didn’t die from his own ability. His ability was beyond the realm of his personal power, similar to how the world stops time everywhere in the universe but DIO’s biggest feat is lifting construction equipment

[@Vitor20XX]

That's what we call wank

[@Vitor20XX]

@@bananabanana484 it's just hax, his physical stats are low af, except for MiH speed.

[@CrucialMutual]

You lost me when you said pucci survived destroying the universe as it wasnt really destroyed, rather sped up to reach its conclusion.

[@gokussbkaioken5133]

7:36 nah nah nah you are high balling this shit to infinity and beyond right now

[@jaqcole]

watch the jotaro vs goku vid for context

[@facts92199]

jonathan is physically strongest but nowhere near star platinum part 3.

[@gabemills7954]

He was definitely miles ahead of Joseph in hamon

[@nemtons]

interesting video, dubs imo🔥

[@Originalsapling405]

I think the way Araki meant by Johnathan is strongest is by his sheer willpower. As it has been said before that the thing what makes the Joestar bloodline special is their indomitable willpower.

[@GoatOfWIS]

Editing goes crazy; cook mah brudda

[@jaqcole]

thank you bud

[@user-tl5qy7kn7l]

part 1 was always one of my favorite

[@babysinclairfan]

Honestly, this makes sense. Jonathan is a Christ figure, an ideal that all of the later JoJo's are striving to live up to. No matter what heights the other JoJos reach, they got there by standing on his shoulders. Does it make sense from power scaling? Probably not, but this is fiction. We don't always have to be physically consistent. Storytelling always comes first. Going back to the Christ analogy, we still feel Jonathan's presence well after his heroic sacrifice. Jonathan's body is what stops Dio from reaching full power and gives our heroes stands to fight back with. Sure, it might be a coincidence, but it also might not be. Also, everyone knows that Star Platinum is a dead-ringer for Jonathan. While I don't think it's Jonathan's ghost or anything like that, it's a symbol that his legacy is alive in Jotaro. Also, let's not forget that the speed wagon has been helping our heroes entirely out of gratitude for Jonathan. Also I don't think Jonathan was the most powerful strength-wise. In his time, he was just a really strong fighter. However, that's all he needed to overcome his trials. If he had been the one fighting Kira, Diavolo, Kars, Pucci, or the world, he would've risen to the challenge and beaten those villains too. That's just who Jonathan is, an iron-willed hero who finds a way. Jonathan's mind and brawn aren't what makes him special, it's his heart.

[@romantroman6270]

Jonathan lost to Dio's head lol

[@franky2765]

Good shit

[@jaqcole]

Thank you for watching!

[@andruskid2243]

There is NO WORLD where Johnathan gets past GER

[@Aimmakes]

W video!!

[@sushicatez]

You should do Gojo vs the green baby

[@Alexander-ns2su]

Respect to the gentleman. Jonathan is indeed the strongest for what its worth. No stands no hax just physical build and training.

[@GooberGoofy-lj5yd]

I feel dumber for having watched this.

[@SODA63]

😂

[@user-rd9mi7bx5w]

Goat

[@averageasiandudeytplays9943]

young joseph the best

[@boko_6471]

this is crazy stretching bro

[@Josep0110]

I'd like to mention that at the end of part 8 (spoilers) we saw the Joseph Joestar from the alternate universe and he also had "hermit purple" as his stand. However, this stand did have a humanoid figure, probably because he get it when he was much younger than Joseph from part 3. We also know that the arrow awakened 2 stands in Dio, The world (dio stand) and a version of hermit purple (jonathan's body stand)... So assuming that Jonathan would have had his stand awakened when he was young and alive he may have had a humanoid stand such as Joseph (8). With his strength, the hammon and a stand like that, Jonathan would be one of the strongest stand users we could have seen (english is not my first language, sorry if i had made any spelling mistakes 😅)

[@AlphaFramke42]

Don't mind OVA Star Platinum literally throwing a building... that might outdo Jonathon.

[@TehJeremySeff]

I say joseph is the strongest, he punched a vampire into space. He also beat the pillar men which is superior to vampires turned from wearing the mask.

[@Nitrogenic]

W JDA scaling remember me when you pass me 😭

[@jaqcole]

hush little one

[@nicolaimarquez2765]

But ULF Kars is one of the strongest too because he has a million times of Hamon Evolution though he can melt some human too because he adapt the life form energy without breaking a sweat based on Kars Theory in Part 2

[@Numbers-gStands]

I strongly disagree with this line of scaling. I would moreso argue Johnathan is physically the strongest Joestar through the feats he’s shown but still far outclassed by Joestar stands such as Star Platinum physically. AP, DC, & STR Star Platinum >>> Johnathan >> Jotaro

[@bruhduh_GG]

Part 1 is one of my favorites

[@jaqcole]

same

[@HarunoSoul]

Jonathan's physique and ridiculous height speaks volumes of just how strong he is. Could you imagine how near untouchable he'd be if he had Star Platinum? Especially considering Sunlight Yellow Overdrive is basically the equivalent to a Star Platinum beatdown. It'd just be an utter torrent of fists.

[@inazumamati4954]

Im might be a little bit bias but Joseph(Part2) should be stronger than Jonathan because he fought Straizo that was around Dio (Part 1) level even if not stronger and then we have the pillar man that were stated to be completly superior to vampires and Joseph defeated Santana before even having Hamon training and after his training he was able to defeat everyone one of them by just being stronger and being a little lucky.

[@D.W.M.T.Y.A.W._CheckAbout_]

Just because he “should” doesn’t mean he “would be”. Listen man, if Araki said it be so, then it is what it is. But nah, he be sayin the one who started it all was the strongest.

[@inazumamati4954]

@@D.W.M.T.Y.A.W._CheckAbout_ the shoulds are based on arakis statements like that the pillar man are stronger than dio part 1

[@D.W.M.T.Y.A.W._CheckAbout_]

@@inazumamati4954 And yet, What does he say? Jonathan is stronger. Don’t get me wrong, it sounds retarded. Big man really did just put it out there. But I mean… it’s not our fault because, we did get a whole ass fighting game, not necessarily canonical, essentially wanking The JoJo of Part 1.

[@sakhiy]

I get that jonathan is probably the one who can punch the hardest, but jojo fights aren't like db fights, i like jonathan be he's cooked if he has to face off against jotaro or giorno

[@jaqcole]

yeah ik. i was just showing how jonathan is the stronger in the manga. i never said he could beat everyone and i explicitly said jotaro beats him

[@CityMan69]

I havent seen Jojo in a long time, But Jonathan was so strong his entire bloodline (except jolyne) Kicked ass

[@CityMan69]

You can see his Chad blood lessening as the jojos get skinnier

[@therealwhoever]

This is all dependent on Part 1 Dio Brando > part 3 DIO Which honestly I find hard to believe simply because of how busted the world is. Sure his vampirism abilities were always put into question but his strength never was. To say Jonathan scales higher destructively than Star platinum or the world sounds abit too out there. I personally don't see that because of Joseph's existence. You completely gloss over Joseph but hes the direct link to vampires such as Dio Brando. DIO himself says that hamon compared to him now is fodder. This is before greatest high. Joseph part 2 beat a vampire relative to Dio brando and then the pillar men which no matter how you slice it ARE above Dio brando. Sure hamon is underrated and i wish we did see more of it but to say it surpasses stands in strength I just gotta doubt it. But if you are gonna believe this Dio scaling then by all means Joseph and Jonathan (both post zeppeli amp) I guess are the "strongest"? Clickbait video but i thought I'd comment smth since this whole line of scaling is something I've never seen before or would really believe myself

[@therealwhoever]

By all means by your crazy scaling I'd wonder what your arguments and such would be for the pillar men lmao

[@jaqcole]

Whatever you believe in the line of scaling or not is up to you. i don't really text debate but ill drop some responds in here right now. 1. he said hamon is fodder compared to himself in part 3 cause he cna stop time and harm joseph through objects to bypass hamon. 2. dio in part 1 is physically stronger than the world and part 3 as i expalined in the video. You got to fully watch it along with the other dio video for context. Straizo is not comparable to dio in strenght or speed. Just cause they got similar abilities doesn't mean they operate on the same level as dio has done nothing but consume lifes and gotten massively stronger while we don't know how mnay lives straizo has eaten. Also i glossed over joseph because he doesn't scale to anyone on jonathans level nor does he scale to dio in part 3 and i went in-depth why jonathan is stronger than that one. The answer you're looking for is literally in the video

[@therealwhoever]

​@jaqcole Dio and Straizo are relative no matter how you put it due to the hierarchy of beings or whatever we learn in part 2. They're both vampires, similar abilities, and such. It can even be implied Araki was tryna show off Joseph's cool new character by putting him up against someone that is on Dio's level immediately. Not to mention the pillar men being directly above this for higher stakes. Same for part 3 DIO is back with a stand and by greatest high is stronger than ever. Part 4 tones it down as Araki's style changes. Again i just don't agree with your scaling of Dio part 1 which breaks this whole line of thought apart

[@therealwhoever]

​@@jaqcoleyou saying this is the strongest he has ever felt due to stand energy and dio believe with the world that hamon is of no issue to him leads me to again believe stands > hamon. Unless you think Jonathan's hamon is above ulf kars i see no reason as to why it'd be above star platinum. Which is also another thing that breaks your whole line of scaling. You rely so much on statements and comparisons yet the feats for part 1 are so minimal it is hard to believe for me. Like if someone scales part 3 higher than part 1 which most do then yeah this falls apart

[@gameworldjt]

@@therealwhoever i mean, from a narrative standpoint, yes, straitzo was used to show off how cool the new joestar is and wow he killed a vampire so quickly wow wow but really straitz is nowhere near on Dio's level, because for one, he didn't drink the blood of an entire village like DIO did, he didn't experiment with what his new vampiric body can do (although he does know about the stinger eyes from seeing DIO use them), and he just didn't really have the wits that DIO did.

[@JacobCada]

I've always loved part 1&2 and Harmon is something I prefer over stands so its cool at least for me, that a harmon user is the strongest.

[@Halilpasar]

Dio: BRING OUT YOUR STAND AND LETS END THIS JOJO! Jonathan: I don’t need a stand to defeat you.. *_I’VE GOT HAMON!_*

[@mythix02]

Finally someone call it. Jonathan is the strongest Jojo in hand to hand combat

[@KennyTheThinker319]

Say stronger again 🙂

[@kendallpeebles7481]

StræÔ⁹⁹-grr

[@nicolaimarquez2765]

The Legendary Gntlemen Of Chadness in JoJo..

[@TheSsjJoker]

As He should be

[@Januaryof28]

Ain’t no way Giorgio ain’t the strongest

[@nikoanimations2289]

i still think jotaros star platinum is stronger than jonathan with hamon. when jotaro was just starting to use his stand, he fought kakyoin and destroyed the school building. walls crack, all glass shatters. araki always wants to one up his characters and it would make sense that jotaro is the most physically strong bc after part 3, muscle men and insane strength was falling out of style and strength in smart ways was popular as we can see with josuke and other part 4 characters. Joseph was supposed to be not as strong as Jonathan, he was smart and clever and didnt train in hamon as much. his wits where something different for the time. jotaro came in to one up Joseph and Jonathan

[@proxnoob6177]

Jonathan might be the 2nd physically strongest joestar behind joseph who scales to piller man or higher. While Jotaro Kujoh is stronger because of Star Platinum. I do this Jotaro could have been physically stronger then Jonathan if he did learn Hamon but sadly he did not learn it. So In my physical power ranking it would go like. Joseph. Jonathan. Jotaro. Josuke. Jolyne. Giorno.(Fuck him for ruining name consistency) Johny. Idk about parts after that. Reason I put Jolyne above Giorno is simple she was throwing some hands. Idk if she would be higher then josuke though.

[@jaqcole]

Thank you for sharing your opinion bud

[@saifkhan-kc9ec]

if we talking about with powers like ger's physical str is op af it literally eradicated kc's face in a barrage (no kc's durability isnt e that is a stat mistranslation) and ger seems to be a big power up(also i think the main reason ge was weak even tho it was a power type stand was cause of giorno's age like the height spurts for joestar seems to be 16+)

[@Miguel_Hinojosa_12]

Yeah absolutely, Jonathan may lose against the others in a fight due the fact of stands, he is the strongest Joestar, but unfortunately not the most powerful, anyway, Jonathan best JoJo

[@vibeplan5761]

Ger can legit just say no it is immortal and unbeatable

[@DiosBf]

The video makes some sense but there are a lot of assumptions. Personally I think that trusting Dio when he said “only stands can beat stands” makes the most sense since Dio is the one who fought Jonathan and witnessed his level of strength. I’m not sure if Jonathan or a stand would have more raw power but I do know that stands are for more precise and fast, dealing more damage

[@casualcrusader]

part 3 would have been 11/10 perfect if joseph used hamon more, maybe taught jotaro some, and dio had all his previous vampire powers. imagine how crazy it would have ben

[@hammerdown2668]

I have a theory on why dio is weaker in sdc Its because after he was defeated by Jonathan he lost his entire body along with most of the vampiric blood So when dio took Jonathans body thats it just a body nothing else but regular blood He couldn't heal like usual (I can only guess his old body had an increased amount of mutated white blood cells after he put on the mask?)

[@basedguy.4229]

7:52 No??? The universe reset doesnt harm anyone

[@jaqcole]

watch the dio vs jotaro vid i go more indetail there

[@Realience]

There's also the fighting game where Jonathan can fight all the other JoJos Each one mentions how strong he is, and several comment how thankful they are that he doesn't have a stand, because he would be a monster with one

[@GavinPargo]

W video

[@slap1618]

this is bait

[@therealwhoever]

Gotta be. The only real mention of Araki is near the end where he says himself Araki has no direct statement of what this video is covering and tryna argue. It's just a BIZARRE interpretation of things and many STRETCHES of logic

[@jaqcole]

The discord is in the bio if you want to argue this bud@@therealwhoever

[@camcan1243]

So The World is Technical Johnathan's stand

[@BudgingAcorn]

I mean it makes sense as he doesn't need a stand to be strong but if he were to get 1 which people say is hermit purple which I feel blatantly isn't true as dio has jonathans body he may of got something similar to the world but I know it would be strong even if it wasn't the world

[@jaqcole]

indeed

[@holdthetruthhostage]

Johnathan was killed by the plot not the main villain

[@MinoTaurus205]

Without stand Jonathan is stronger than them I mean... Just look how thin the other compare to him? It's like they never enter the Gym again after Part 3

[@Derta12]

the power of being a gentleman💪🔥(and muscles)

[@MondoC]

This is the problem with jojo fans. They just make shit up while also making the claim it’s araki confirmed when no such thing was talked about with araki. This entire video is a false interpretation of the series and makes me really question your reading level.

[@VerycoolEsso]

Jonathan is the strongest Joestar, without abilities.

[@ancelot_2011]

He is the strongest not by power but by the the fact that his determination and good will has carried over to his descendants and even to parallel universes.

[@Oddmanoutre]

There is only one reason why Jonathan was The Strongest. It wasn't because of his immense strength that rivalled that of Stands. It wasn't even his pure soul, which allowed him to defeat Dio not by smashing his wicked ambition (twice) or destroying his vampiric body, but by forgiving the monster and accepting him as his brother. No, only one single thing makes Jonathan the strongest. One simple, and incontrovertible fact: Jonathan made Speedwagon into a JoBro.

[@Jokervision744]

If you get bit into neurology... You can see that stomach or your guts is basically another brain... Dio gave up his guts and nuts, and wasn't able to get his marbles together after that? Jonathan was basically killing him from inside. I guess the time warp, skip, reset could do, or did good, because I'm interested if they could even scale. Or would it go like "The campaign for north Africa" and the one who wins is the one with most pasta points?

[@RMPBuilds]

I just don't see Jonathan being able to punch a wall to pieces. I can't even picture it mainly because he's been downplayed. The facts are in front of my face but I just can't accept it. Edit: I just watched another video and I got a bit of an better explanation. I think it was the part where he broke the metal chain on his neck exerting all of that strength. I've been succesfully humbeled. 😥

[@pugman9672]

Some what unrelated but who do you think would win Dio v the juggernaut. I feel like they would go at each other forever unable to kill each other

[@That_One_Muzfrg]

Tbh my favourite jojo is jonathan. He is just argueably the best written out of every jojo. My favourite villian was yoshikage kira for the same reason

[@jaqcole]

bro i've been saying jonathan is the best for so long lmfao

[@Smile-Dog898]

Exact same.

[@Zlgz1]

nah this is crazy talk all of it

[@rattled6732]

Araki trolling the fanbase

[@frozenburrito2.087]

Jonathan is also the strongest mentally, so if he had managed to get a stand it’d probably be very OP

[@ferrot6211]

I haven't finished part 8 but I don't think Jouske is lame, although compared to never reaching the truth and infinite spin energy, his power is kinda underwhelming. Though Jouske can do some interesting things with his stand. But without watching the Jouske VS Goku video I KNOW he lost. But yeah I don't think Jouske is too lame, though you are definitely right with the whole Johnathan is the strongest claim.

[@diegobrando5800]

but would Jonathan defeat Kars without Josephs plotarmor?

[@letsdothisshiat1162]

Source for where Araki confirmed it?

[@_Sage967_]

translation: "Jonathon is the physically strongest Joestar and i really like him"

[@jaqcole]

same

[@slayeroffurries1115]

I'd say Jonathan is the most powerful, but the least resourceful

[@jaqcole]

Literally

[@Prostoy_paren228]

And Joseph is the complete opposite

[@SurvisCallus]

We see star platinum really hurt Sheer Heart Attack I'm curious to know what Jonathan could of done to it, also I believe Jonathan would just find a way to difuse the situation with probably all the jojos and maybe some of the villains

[@Prostoy_paren228]

Jonathan couldn't hurt it at all, SP is far stronger.

[@aleonne2148]

speedwagon scales to johnathon btw.

[@Xziuto]

Jonathan is a gentleman.

[@uppishcub1617]

Jonathan definitely has the highest bench max of any JoJo.

[@Prostoy_paren228]

He definitely benches 405 Tons.

[@bananabanana484]

I did some eye-balling for Tarcus’ boulder-done thing. It’s looks like about 3 Jonathan’s tall and 5 tarcus shoulders wide (about 18 ft tall and 25 ft wide). That’s about 168 tons conservatively. And Jonathan made him look like a rag doll, with inferior leverage. 480 tons isn’t unreasonable for the guy. He does actually make Star platinum look average, though Star Platinum is way faster (Jonathan got hit by stingy eyes and Star Platinum catches bullets point blank).

[@Prostoy_paren228]

@@bananabanana484 SP is physically stronger