How Strong is The Hero of Time? | ZELDA POWER SCALING

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

Which Zelda character deserves a video next?🔺✨

[@DE235]

Skyward Sword Link.

[@theheadlessglen]

Since you have already partially covered him, doing a Majora video shouldn't be to hard.

[@Lucknitro]

Who’s the Strongest Lonk (All of them)

[@jordantaulbee9411]

ganon

[@solitairemario]

Ganondorf! Him or the champions from BOTW.

[@ZeldaMultiverseUnderrated]

17:29 This is amazing, Link has hardly ever got the credit he deserves in adaptive combat, even though it’s his most powerful underrated trait. Even the Hero of Trains/Spirits from Spirit Tracks has this ability.

[@eazy-cheez-e8033]

The Hero of time link was one of the best characters in the whole history of the Legend of Zelda universe. Something about his character just grew on me and made me more attached to him and feeling his pain then any other Link in the series. He had one of the saddest storylines ever. Basically grew up an orphan, wakes up one day by a fairy to sacrifice his whole childhood, leaving all his friends behind just to become a hero and save hyrule. Basically saving so many lives, losing his friends and then sent back in time to his childhood to just be completely forgotten by people on all the good things he did just to die later on to never be remembered as the hero he was.

[@Cye_Pie]

I beg of you to read the twilight princess manga, it really goes in details in what oot link and tp link went through and I'm sure you'll love it

[@yulverick]

Really solid video, nicely handled lore aspects and fantastic editing. It felt like one of the peak "how strong is X" videos I craved from 2017 and onwards. Kudos to you, this is fantastic.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

Hey, that's high praise. Thanks!

[@a6brx_editz23]

This is the video that got me into Zelda, now I know the entire lore of Zelda and the many timelines that encompasses it

[@NeoDeity]

That's sickkkkkkkk

[@neo51977]

The zelda universe is more powerful than people could imagine.

[@96ace96]

But how could the authors imagine it then?

[@redking8243]

@@96ace96 I'm sure they would be impressed by the research and would probably chuckle a little.

[@calvinharv4167]

Link get all 3 triforce Wishes to become unbeatable God

[@g.masterlordoftheg-force4770]

Well, more powerful than they WOULD imagine. I wouldn’t say could. Right now, I could imagine some characters that can eat a multiverse for breakfast.

[@cpt.beanutbutter5793]

I like the God of War music during the Demise part. Really upplays the character

[@joyconboyz4525]

This is the video I've always wanted seth to make, good job on this one

[@mandrag4286]

Does he have similar thoughts about The Legend of Zelda's power lvl?

[@joyconboyz4525]

@@mandrag4286 he doesn't scale video games like that so I don't know his opinions on zelda scaling

[@Simply_Named_G]

You should do Cloud vs Link in the future I would like to see your version of the matchup.

[@FatefulMedia3383]

The fact you have sources in the discription already makes you one of my fav character study KZbinrs!

[@harlinambury5131]

Please cover more Zelda characters your the only person I’ve ever seen powerscale Zelda characters and it is my favourite thing too see

[@redking8243]

Good stuff mate. Link is extremely underrated and pretty high in the Nintendo ranks. Link would stomp a lot of other swordsman in ficton and most don't make it far at all.

[@lilray2942]

yea he's one of the strongest smash bros characters and one of the strongest swordsmen in fiction

[@EricN64]

9:02 ganondorf being a threat like hyrule never scene just means in recent times, vaati and demise were hundreds to thousands of years ago, and demise is a threat before hyrule is even is even founded as skyward sword is the first in the timeline, so he dosent even count

[@TrashmanCZ]

I love your videos. It´s refreshing to se original powerscaling because every other powerscaler will do manga, comics and anime.

[@spidersonic01]

It's cool to see someone scale Zelda, Link is much more powerful than I thought he would be

[@Chris-gx1ei]

And Deathbattle claims Ganondorf would be failing against Castlevania's Dracula

[@alvaro4996]

Well, I don't know a lot about Castlevania, but I think that every important character is multiversal, so Ganon would be dead

[@lilray2942]

​@@alvaro4996ganondorf is multiversal he clears castlevania

[@a_Generic_User]

21:47 "the ability to cast shadows"... yeah I got that too

[@theheadlessglen]

I don't know about strongest, when you have Vader in a similar higher-dimensional tier, would be one of the most intense fights one could see though. Especially with you having covered Legend's Vader. A rather unorthodox and yet hype match.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

Soul Calibur guest fighter versus match

[@theheadlessglen]

@@CRISIS_COMICS Hell yeah, forgot they were both in Soul Calibur at one time or another. Makes the match-up work even better.

[@DarthKraytsolosCanon500]

@@CRISIS_COMICS Yes do link vs Vader. They both are higher dimensional and massively faster than light. It would be awesome. And use Legends Vader.

[@gtbxjay_yt]

​@@DarthKraytsolosCanon500 I'm not gonna lie I don't see Vader losing

[@hellzonefirebrigade3056]

​@@gtbxjay_ytI'm not gonna lie, I don't see Link losing 🤷‍♂️

[@neostrax3646]

Great Video Crisis I hope you do a powerscale for Ganondorf/Ganon.

[@komorebi7955]

im curious if youre a fan of the final fantasy games because i would love to see an analysis on someone like cloud zack or sephiroth this was a great and well researched video as always

[@hattoripool1533]

Ocarina of Time 3ds should have had multiple endings that lead into different timelines from different games one is the normal which leads into the child timeline. The bad ending if your defeated and killed by Ganon leads into the Fallen hero timeline

[@ZeldaMultiverseUnderrated]

This is the video I’ve been prepping for.

[@x-immortalkill-x5596]

It’s just funny to know that even the weakest of links is probably star or galaxy level or possibly higher 💀

[@lilray2942]

The weakest link is planetary most links scale to galaxy level or universal

[@nicholasallen5144]

Eh, not sure if I agree with everything in this but it's still great video and it still puts Link a LOT higher than I ever thought he was

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

U should agree if u wanna be correct 👉👈

[@niro6199]

@@CRISIS_COMICS well, since TOTK came out you might want to redo the scale cause I think BOTW link is more powerful due to experience and raw strength as well as some other combat abilities such as parrying and the flurry rush. Plus I made a comment earlier on how it's not really fair to take the masks into consideration since there's a solid theory that Termina is not real/ a figment of link's imagination meaning any of the things he got in Termina would not work outside. But outside of that yeah Hero of time is easily top 3 or 2.

[@Link.ispada]

you missed one feat Shadow link stops time on top of link's sword. This is an intentional speed feat as shadows moves alot faster then light

[@amesrosebigfan0194]

Very nice video,good work! I hope you can make a powerscale video about Mario

[@filipevasconcelos4409]

Breath of the Wild's link is just a really REALLY buff dude. He has lightning quick reflexes from flurry rush and quicktime shooting. Can parry a charging lynel with his single arm and can hold on to rocks that are launched thousands of feet into the air. Who needs magic when you're basically all-might from my hero academia?

[@Haruo-6768]

And echoes of wisdom zelda is also very powerful

[@incorporealfear]

Great video

[@turnerbrawley4715]

Thank you crisis you rock!

[@twellas4445]

Great work as always!

[@marco.porque]

In retrospect you're so right about calamity Ganon now that totk is out a mummy version of him bodied link who was at full power

[@anybodyeverybody6766]

Your short brought me here! Keep up the good work :)

[@LITTLE1994]

There's no question about it. The Hero of Time is the G.O.A.T. of all Links. It still sucks that he had such a ridiculously unfortunate storyline, even though as great as that Link is...

[@belmontzar]

Hero of time Link has great power yeah... but if ya compile all his gear and items together no one is more broken that the Game boy games Link who may or may not also be the hero of Legend. That Link in particular is a menace... with or without the Link to the Past gear.

[@callinater6133]

I find it funny when people say the link from Hyrule warriors is the strongest considering Young Link, the hero of time, is literally playable in that game lol. Also he’s pretty much the most op character in the game too.

[@ncrveteranranger4454]

With Fierce Deity, yeah the hero of time, but without it, gotta go to The hero of legends. He can literally cause Earthquakes, freeze enemies around him, kill everyone around him instantly in a flurry of explosions, and become invulnerable to damage due to a magical cape. Did I forget to mention he had the Master sword at its full potential? The only one who can beat him is the Fierce Deity, and the Fierce Deity alone!

[@JohnnyMcbumbersnazzleKinc3]

I agree entirely, people always overlook the fierce deity for some reason…

[@magicmanscott40k]

Didn't know the stuff in the games was universal level. Scary stuff

[@BowserEditz]

Year late but Almost every video game characters universal at minimum Compare that to anime where only 30% of it get past Universal

[@magicmanscott40k]

@@BowserEditz I don't know any video character that's universal. Also I forgot that I watched this video

[@BowserEditz]

@@magicmanscott40k there's Mario Sonic Crash Kirby fox Samas link Zelda Arceus Megaman Spyro Rachit and Clank Rayman Fnaf world and even Earthbound They're all beyond Universal

[@magicmanscott40k]

@@BowserEditz they are? Had no idea. I guess I'm less nerdy

[@badjokes7321]

Can you do more Star Wars videos? I love your videos keep up the good work. This is really just amazing how much time and effort you put in the video. I will be looking forward to seeing your next videos. You are Amazing

[@disqord3416]

It would be cool to see characters like Mario or Sonic next

[@callinater6133]

Mario is an absolute nightmare to power scale. His power levels jumps all over the place from building level to multiversal to everything in between and possibly beyond. Nothing makes sense with that plumber. Sonic’s easier to pinpoint since lore is a heavier focus of his series.

[@BowserEditz]

​​@@callinater6133marios actually pretty consistent once you understand the lore and his Cosmology Normal humans And random objects in mario are High Universal Because when mario characters dream They create universes Paint Makes things sentintint so meaning any object can dream Meaning any object is High universal in Mario 😂 That's why his scaling seems inconsistent but it's pretty consistent

[@CoffeeDrinkerKim]

While I agree with your reasoning that ALTTP Link doesn’t scale to complete Triforce, there IS a statement that says that Aghanim (and thus Ganon) was “bolstered by the power of the Triforce” along with other statements of “wielding the power of gold” or Sahasrala stating that his power is being augmented by something. So I do actually believe that Ganon was being empowered by the Triforce, but you are still probably right that Link doesn’t actually scale. Edit: I changed my mind. ALTTP Link absolutely scales because of his superior sword and armor upgrades. The Master Sword literally cannot damage Ganon unless it’s golden. And the Silver Arrows only defeat him after Link already wears him down with the Golden Master Sword, meaning it’s capable of directly contesting full power Triforce Ganon.

[@urielndiaz]

Most of his sources are from things with not as much credibility. He gives more sources to Ocarina of Time and uses altered English / NEWER sources rather than the original intent. It's very odd and shows his lacking credibility.

[@CoffeeDrinkerKim]

@@urielndiaz I’m also suspect of the English translations of some of his sources as well. I’d be willing to bet his source of the Triforce weakening over time is actually about the sage’s connection to it weakening in Japanese, which is more consistent with what’s stated in game.

[@urielndiaz]

@@CoffeeDrinkerKim I checked more of his content and he does this a lot. He's very biased and conceited. Especially just look at the comments and most I replied to. He has this like "my opinion is the correct" approach.

[@hattoripool1533]

I wonder how strong the Hero of Time is by the time he becomes the Heroes shade

[@crystaluwu1012]

True, it was never explained why he was able to obtained the wolf abilities.

[@la7402]

Honestly, I would love to see you do this type Zelda video with the less immediately powerful characters like the Champions from Breath of the Wild/Age of Calamity and you focusing on the Hero of the Wild this time, especially since the recent Tears of the Kingdom game has given him a giant power up in the Zelda hierarchy thanks toe a certain detail we see near the beginning of the game's story and a later accomplishment.

[@harrynoone7013]

This is a great video crisis, by any chance are you a devil may cry fan? The power scaling for those games would make a great video

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

I am not

[@kieranprior3873]

The only argument I can think of for the Hero of Time not being the strongest in compassion to the Link in A Link to the Past and they other games in that timeline is that the Hero of Time canonically lost to Ganon in that timeline. Of course, given the evidence, it is still likely that it was a close fight meaning that he would still likely scale above the other Links.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

The nature of the Downfall Timeline perplexes Zelda theorists. The Historia says it’s one of countless possibilities, which would also range from Ganon losing in a low tier way or literally any other outcome. It’s a very arbitrary justification for a timeline which IMO isn’t a good way to down play the HoT, as among the other “countless” possibilities are infinite victories for him.

[@kieranprior3873]

Makes sense. It was just the thought popped into my head when you were going over Link to the Past: "wait, isn't this the this timeline where the Hero lost? I wonder if that would affect the scaling". That go me thinking and as mentioned in my original comment, it was likely still a close fight given the other two timelines we have, the fight between the Hero of Time and Ganon stated to be fierce, and the Zelda wiki when describing the Downfall timeline stating the hero fell "despite his best efforts" (don't know if there is an actual source that said that or if it was just the wiki). This would mean that even in the Downfall timeline, the Hero of Time would still be relative to Ocarina of Time Ganon and thus your reasons for scaling him above the other Links should still hold. And as you said, infinite ways the Hero loses and infinite ways he wins. Cancels each other out so go off the game itself where the Hero wins in a specific way and assume the one of three timelines created where he lost is at least close to the events of the two timelines where he won.

[@callinater6133]

@@kieranprior3873 you also have to consider that there are an infinite number of possibilities that occurred where other links fell to ganon with timelines following those outcomes, they just happened to use the hero of time losing to ganon the outcome to make another timeline out of. In reality, the hero of time falling to ganon isn’t any more canon than another link falling to ganon.

[@urielndiaz]

​@@CRISIS_COMICS Kinda dumb to say you dont agree with Hyrule Historia and then use sources from the same people AND ESPECIALLY ENGLISH. English translations are not accurate. Just do the same shit you did with Ocarina of Time for ALTTP. But instead put a little more effort. Find the original guides from JAPAN. and don't use hyrule historia. problem solved lmao.

[@gigawarman12]

What happened to the Ganondorf vs Sephiroth video

[@TheRealVyke]

How fast would a high end for the flurry rush lighting feat be?

[@redking8243]

Well the flurry rush lightning feat has been calced at 290,523.56 times the speed of light. Take that as you will.

[@TheRealVyke]

@@redking8243thanks

[@michaelbrent1536]

Link is on Par with Characters like Sora(Kingdom Hearts),Pit(Kid icarus Uprising ),Cloud(FF7) and Shulk(Xenoblade Chronicles)!

[@redking8243]

He's actually above most if not all the characters you just mentioned

[@neo51977]

@@redking8243 which ones and why

[@redking8243]

​@@neo51977 I got him above Sora as he's uni to low multiversal but Link can scale that and higher plus he has Immeasurable speeds which I'm pretty sure Sora doesn't have. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's stated in verse light speed could potentially kill Sora but I could be wrong. Pit well, he's like star-multi solar system which Link casually outscales. Link also speed blitzes hard. Cloud is Solar system to multi Galaxy level via the supernova feat that destroyed the area Sephiroth was in meanwhile Link slayed Majora who can alter and destroy Termina which is an entire universe. Last I checked, shulk was uni plus to maybe multi plus but I'll have to look into him more. Not sure how good his speeds are either.

[@neo51977]

@@redking8243 link vs cloud equalized stats who would win in your opinion?

[@redking8243]

@@neo51977 If we take that route then honestly..... Both have wincons at that point.

[@adamwade6243]

Crisis, can you please do a video just like the one you had done about the version of Link from The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, but about Son Goku from Dragon Ball, Cassie Cage from Mortal Kombat, Tommy Oliver from Power Rangers, Ash Ketchum, Pikachu, or Mewtwo from Pokémon, Atem, Yami Yugi, Yugi Moto, Zorc Necrophades, Dartz, or Yami Bakura from Yu-Gi-Oh!, Agumon or Agunimon from Digimon, or the Helltaker from Helltaker?

[@dakotadean1273]

Ive needed this video thank you!!!!!

[@justsimplestuff602]

awsome video man

[@redking8243]

Little late but I feel like you should have touched up on Link between worlds Link, who beat Yuga Ganon who had two Triforce pieces within him and still lost to Link and see how he stacks to Ocarina of Time Link

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

Even weaker Triforce than in ALttP, which was below the Sages sealing powers. Sages were fodder to Ganon in OoT.

[@redking8243]

@@CRISIS_COMICS Wait what? I'm pretty sure the Triforce was at least equal to Link to the past Link and Ganon was amped by yuga's magic Tbf.

[@urielndiaz]

@@CRISIS_COMICS NAWWW I WAS RIGHT. BRO USES SETH THE PROGRAMMER TERMS LIKE "fodder" BRO PROLY LIKES LOLIS TOO BAHAHAHAA

[@FoxxyFire-HellFrost]

I can't recall. Which continuity do the Oracle games fall under? Because these games frame the two Oracles as the keepers of the forces of the natures represented: Time and Seasons and Link has to gain the powers of Din and Nayru after they were abducted by Onox and Veran respectively. If you defeat one of the games and connect it to the other, it is discovered that Twinrova was attempting to sacrifice the Oracles along with Zelda in order to restore Ganon. However, because Link rescues Zelda before the ceremony can commence, they sacrifice themselves in order to bring forth Ganon. However, Ganon is completely insane. He is as powerful as ever, but he's literally a mindless, rampaging beast due to the hurried, incomplete sacrifice. So, because of all that Link had to do to vanquish Ganon in this timeline, how powerful do you see him being?

[@riacal7754]

Aren’t they just named after them

[@FoxxyFire-HellFrost]

@@riacal7754 What?

[@riacal7754]

@@FoxxyFire-HellFrost they are oracles of the gods their chosen priests

[@FoxxyFire-HellFrost]

@@riacal7754 What does that have to do with what I asked?

[@riacal7754]

@@FoxxyFire-HellFrost You we’re implying that link had the power of 2/3 of the golden goddesses

[@Ag-zk6jw]

Many people downplay the verse

[@thekingofbel6511]

Oh my god, this is by far, the most accurate "how strong is link" video ive ever seen. There's barely any problems with it too. Just a few critiques, oot ganon being stronger than demise by that statement is not correct and has been retconned since skyward swords release since all of ganondorfs power comes from demise to begin with. This is supported by the LoZ encyclopedia stated that all evil comes from him and ganondorf is no exception to this, also calamity ganon is ganon giving up his power of reincarnation to use his full power i.e, the power of demise. And on top of this it took the full triforce to take out a weakened demise Permanently, that alone is enough to put demise above ganondorf. Also demise did not create that pocket dimension, but he does have full control over it. That realm is actually the demon world as stated in the japanese version. And also in the japanese version of the LoZ encyclopedia instead of hyperspace its stated to be a superverse, which is an infinite dimensional hierarchy, feel free to use that as a highball if you want. And finally the din, farore and nayru spells are not as strong as youre led to believe. Its not like the goddesses themselves are uses theyre full power in the attack, they use a miniscule amount of the goddesses power. Its borderline insignificant. But thats the main wrong things for me anyways, so i can not accept oot link being the strongest link, its definitely skyward sword or breath of the wild. As for missed stuffed, in wind waker and iirc minish cap, there is an infinite-inaccessible speed feat that they were walking through a domain that had no time which link entered no problem, both times without the aid of the time stop cancelling master sword, which vaati scales too and by extension ganondorf, and by extension everyone else who remotely scales to ganondorf. Also the demise conquering time statement is a blatant immeasurable speed feat. You dont need to go back and forward in time with sheer speed to have immeasurable speed. Attacking someone or something who/that is omnipresent throughout time or is time in a verse that runs on multiverse theory, is definitely immeasurable speed. Mad respect to universal - 5-D LoZ tho thank you for not saying street, country, continental, moon or planet level for link as all of those are lowballs for every link

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

We can debate the HoT vs any other canon Link in a voice chat.

[@thekingofbel6511]

@@CRISIS_COMICS wish i could but sadly with my job i dont have time for vc debates anymore

[@killiancraftofcraftyworks975]

The gorons in termina trade with the gorons in Hyrule. The like the rocks from dodongos cavern. Seriously am i the only one who talks with the gorons?

[@michaeldorsey9231]

Not sure if it’s still a stomp, but if you use the Kingdom Hearts version could Maleificent beat Ganondorf?

[@Scarecrow_graveman]

No

[@vladycabrera-if8rm]

Peak Hero of Time Glazing

[@darknessgod5328]

One thing about Hero Of Legend. He had to upgrade The Master Sword Twice. You forgot that part being left out. He had to go to The Dark World to get a toad take it to The Light World and leave his Master Sword to Temper it. Meaning making it more powerful than the one Hero Of Time wield. Not only that he had it upgraded again by a big fairy within The Pyramid in The Dark World that’s considered Golden. Again way more powerful than The Master Sword that The Hero Of Time wield. By your logic that Master Sword should be quadruple or more powerful than the original state of The Master Sword. Also yeah Link didn’t have Naryu Love but Naryu Love wasn’t permanent either. It lasted a certain amount of time based on Magic. Same goes with Link Magic Cape and Cane Of Byrna but it last as long has he has magic till the meter runs out. A bit longer time limit on how long those items can be used for. Also you forgot another thing. Link has The Master Sword True Powers Abilities. Firing beams of an attack at full health and 3 Medallions. Bombos Ether and Quake. You need The Master Sword to activate those Medallions cause if you leave The Master Sword behind to get it temper you won’t use the Magical Medallions at all. Being able to control polar winds with lightning that literally cleared a thunderstorm in Misery Mire Dark World Dungeon with Ether is a very impressive feat. Not only that Quake Medallion unlocked the Turtle Rock Dungeon in Dark World. Plus yeah Ganon didn’t have Triforce Of Power. I do give you that but he is the most experienced Ganon there was caused he did killed The Hero Of Time in the Downfall Timeline with tons of Experience. So yeah Hero Of Legend had a hard time beating a well experienced Ganon overall. Who has MFTL feats since he’s the same Ganon that beat Hero Of Time. I figured you know his combat speeds teleporting etc. comes from the previous game. Then he can become intangible with no lights. You need light to actually gives him a moment vulnerability to hit with the silver arrow as well. Him tanking many hits from a Golden Master Sword before that is impressive itself. Not only that wasn’t Argharim was his Alter Ego pulling the strings from The Dark World? Like after you beat him the second time in Ganon Castle. He shrinks like he was wearing clothes and fly as a bat to The Pyramid and it was Ganon inside him the entire time based on the context of the game shown. Hero Of Legend has Blue Mail and Red Mail to reduce damage on his end as well. Not only that the other 3 games he has more gear overall. If you want to composite him with every gear he had overall in the past 4 games. He would be the most OP Link ever just gear alone and a Golden Master Sword to top it off. I just think you downplayed The Hero Of Legend a bit. That’s all. Good video overall. Hero Of Time is definitely a beast no doubt. But Hero Of Legend is definitely a beast as well.

[@urielndiaz]

He leaves it out because he's biased. Don't trust people like him and stop powerscaling. It's a very bad thing to be interested in especially when it turns you into him where he says Zelda characters are universal. Bro has problems lmao.

[@Let_her_solo_me3]

What’s your thoughts about people saying The hero of the skies had the entire Triforce therefore he’s the strongest?

[@dainonkappes5768]

Scaling link with the release of tears of the kingdom would be crazy

[@moehawk5337]

I'm partial to a link to the past. He has staffs and magic that is pretty powerful too. And debatable, the strongest version of the master sword after being worked on and blessed again.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

He’s weaker than the HoT.

[@moehawk5337]

@@CRISIS_COMICS a link to the past has his own song though

[@hellzonefirebrigade3056]

​@@CRISIS_COMICShow so? LttP Link has a Master Sword that is three times stronger, COMPLETE with medallions that have insane power, the red and blue rings and armor, fought a stronger version of Ganon and won, etc. Would you please explain how Hero of Time is supposedly stronger?

[@urielndiaz]

@@hellzonefirebrigade3056 He doesn't want to explain. He's a shit debater. He pulls stuff outta his ass and is clearly biased. Like he never replied to ur stuff so I'm having to be very blunt with this dude lmao/

[@hellzonefirebrigade3056]

@@CRISIS_COMICS so what I'm seeing here, is that you will say someone/something is stronger, without providing ANY actual evidence to back up your statement. Seems legit. I'll stick to the knowledge that LttP Link is stronger than HoT Link until you can provide actual evidence 😊👍

[@justic7033]

Get this man on the death battle!😆

[@redking8243]

Too bad no one on death battle would bother to listen and just stick with whatever scaling they made up for Link.

[@cullex.2851]

@@redking8243True. Just watch Botw Link vs Aloy. Shows how little they’ve played if at all.

[@urielndiaz]

NO BRO. HES JUST AS BAD AS THEM LMAO. DEATH BATTLE AND THIS WEIRDO SUCK ASS.

[@surrealcemen6744]

Where do you find these feats and stuff?

[@brianjoseph5808]

Please look at zeltink’s video on the strongest link it may have a lot more info than this short albeit it is a short

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

This video is 28 mins. And Zeltik isn’t a power scaler, that video is inaccurate.

[@Cuckster456]

​@@CRISIS_COMICS bro just angery because he knows he 's wrong

[@gorge1365]

I still considered Twilight Princess Link as the strongest Link, slightly above the Hero of Time Link due being the blood sucesor to the Hero of Time and being even trained and handed the torch by the Hero of Time, theres also the fact that Ganondorf was stronger than his OOT incarnation as stated in there that he gets "Stronger" over time and years have passed after the events of OOT/MM into TP time and Ganondorf also have the Triforce of Power as well + was also more prepared in TP than in OOT, and TP Link defeated him 3 times (1. Monster Ganon, 2. Horse Battle, 3. One on One Sword Battle). Twilight Princess Link's Arsenal is also very comparable to the Hero of Time's arsenal, but TP Link have something that the Hero of Time has not.......the Magic Armor.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

Show me where it’s stated Ganon gets stronger over time.

[@gorge1365]

@@CRISIS_COMICS Manga

[@urielndiaz]

@@CRISIS_COMICS PLEASE I NEED THE DRUGS UR SMOKIN CAUSE AINT NO WAY A FUCKING ZELDA CHARACTER IS UNIVERSAL. YOURE CRAZY.

[@3mpatyx_264]

​@@gorge1365The mangas are not canonical

[@gorge1365]

@@3mpatyx_264 Are expansions

[@socialaccount0000]

Do you agree with DeathBattle's statement that a composite Cloud Strife could beat a composite Link?

[@redking8243]

They didn't composite Cloud. They just gave him his Final Fantasy 7 feats and off that, there are some Links that utterly stomp Cloud tbh.

[@TheRealVyke]

@@redking8243 they also gave him dissida

[@redking8243]

@@TheRealVyke Ah yes, a non standard source. And funny enough, even if we take the multi plus meta that game gives, we can scale canon Link there if need be or even higher. Hyrule warriors not even being mentioned btw.

[@TheRealVyke]

@@redking8243 yes I am aware I watched the video

[@redking8243]

@@TheRealVyke Oh I'm talking about scaling outside of this video. But yeah.

[@shadowsnake5133]

I'm gonna have to argue here, I will admit he's definitely top 3 material, but I believe the newest link is actually the new number 1 strongest link. My reasoning is twofold, starting with the fact he starts with better stats than most links at the start of their journey, like being actually trained as a knight, having fought back thousands of minions before Ganon was even a threat, including multiple lynel's at once, and was casually eating rocks. And when Ganon did arrive, he was more or less holding off 100 guardian's by himself, sure he got fucked up, but guardians are no joke the strongest foot soldier I've seen in a Zelda game. And it was probably for a few hours as well given the fighting started in the afternoon and ended by dead of night, like damn. And considering this nearly broke the master sword, this clearly has to be more intense than anything we've seen before, as that's not normal behavior for the sword to even get damaged. So to break it would mean something is stronger than every Ganon we've seen before.... Oh would you look at that, my second point, THE SWORD IS BROKEN, I DON'T CARE BY WHAT, FOR THE MASTER SWORD TO BE BROKEN IMPLIES SOMETHING IS STRONGER THAN EVEN DEMISE, WHO STRAIGHT UP COULD HANDLE THE GODDESS HYLIA BY HIMSELF, WHAT THE HELL? And he just doesn't care, he just goes and fixes it, all the while improvising with a stick and a rock. Oh yeah, I guess third point, he's got the widest arsenal of tools we've seen to date, from armors, weapons, healing, buffs, it's actually nuts to think about how he's just capable of countering nearly everything you could throw at him.

[@nikhilm2803]

Just dependable on how you scale fierce deity link. Because if you take the description of the mask literally (turns you into a "dark god"), not even ancient arrows would save botw link.

[@voltron77]

@@nikhilm2803Exactly.

[@FANE3002]

thank you

[@dustedjotaro3078]

Guess I can say Link beats up some versions of Superman without a sweat lol

[@tomjacob9895]

He is not beating supes base form supes scales to outer versal and stuff by break the source wall he negs link so hard he does not reincarnate

[@dustedjotaro3078]

@@tomjacob9895 I said some like post crisis, new 52 and kingdom come for example

[@lilray2942]

you could argue link being multiversel

[@pokeace456]

Really? Please do go on I'd like to hear

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

@@pokeace456 It’s in the video…

[@pokeace456]

@@CRISIS_COMICS Oh I'm dumb 🙄

[@urielndiaz]

@@CRISIS_COMICS how are u contradicting ur own information. u said it was universal. now ur saying multiversal. what are u smoking bro.

[@lilray2942]

​​@@pokeace456literally says it in the video🤦🏽‍♂️

[@moonmelons]

Now with ToTK the Hero of the Wild has a good argument against the Hero of Time. Ganondorf is incredibly powerful, able to fight off 7 of the strongest warriors on the planet, who are all having their power amped by their secret stones, by himself without any difficulty. Rauru had to sacrifice himself just to temporally imprison Ganondorf. Now there is still some debate over how much Ganondorf was being boosted by the secret stone vs the triforce of power. We just know that they are both divine artifacts that greatly amp their users power. But we do know that Ganondorf had become so strong because of this that his very existence created monsters and decayed the very land of Hyrule. Just by existing Ganondorf was a world-threatening force.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

HoT >

[@crono6874]

And then there's Kirby!...

[@michaeldorsey9231]

Given some of the higher dimensional scaling in the Doom lore, could the Doom Slayer beat the Hero of time?

[@goodlife766]

Nope considering Link's simple breath already scales to Millions of Universes

[@KeatonWarner1]

👍

[@Moth-s3t]

Hero of time link is high uni-low complex multi

[@GreenScreenMerchant007]

The question now Whos stronger Hero of Time or Tears of the Kingdom Link

[@Mazhypic]

12:20 Yeah they have the same energy as beams of light but they don' move at that speed, obviously. We can see them moving, of course they're not moving at that speed. If we wanna get technical nothing with mass can move faster than light through a vacuum.

[@redking8243]

So because we see it moving therefore it can't be light speed? You do realize we can apply that same logic to every verse in fiction that we visually watch and/or play right?

[@Mazhypic]

@@redking8243Ot just doesn’t make sanse for it to be an actual beam of light. Everything is there except the speed. It’s not like the game is implying they travel at light speed either. Ganondorf can react to them, we can react to them and see them While traveling through the air. I do not think it’s canon that Link can react to light speed attacks.

[@redking8243]

@Mazhypic Why not? It behaves like light and is called light. Plus the same arrows without the light amp can instantly travel far enough to the sun to gain the fire arrow so I don't think there's an issue with that. Ganondorf reacts to the arrows and Link can react to him so it's fine. Though I personally think there's better ways to argue ftl Link, that's just a basic way to get him there.

[@Mazhypic]

@ The thing is it doesn’t behave like light, since the speed isn’t there. The normal arrows instantly reaching the sun just tells us that the sun is much closer because it takes light over 8 minutes to reach the sun. That might just be a game mechanic though, since it’s just a cutscene whereas the light arrows are a more important feature. It’s also shown in OoT to be just an amp to regular arrows, implying it’s arrows that carry the energy, but not the speed, of light arrows.

[@redking8243]

@Mazhypic how do you present light speed in a video game when we can barely perceive light speed in real life, let alone a video game from 1998? And that's not what it tells us at all other wise the sun would burn the surface of the earth up. The light arrows are arrows so yes. The arrows get an amp.

[@Tyrineal]

Couldn't it be said that The Hero of Legend is the strongest Link? As this version comes from the Fallen Hero timeline, meaning that the Hero of Legend killed the Ganondorf that Killed the Hero of Time in that universe?

[@Scarecrow_graveman]

PLS DO GANONDORF PLS BRO IM BEGGING PLSSSSS BRO PLSSSSS

[@WakeUpUniverse66]

Ganon doesnt have to react at lightspeed to dodge links arrows, link does not draw the bow at light speed and Ganon can react to that and predict where the shot will be by links aiming.

[@redking8243]

He actually does draw the bow faster and even if we take what you said as true (which it isn't) Ganon would still have to actually react to the attack to actually deflect it. But it doesn't matter anyways because Link has so many higher reaction and combat speed scaling anyways.

[@WakeUpUniverse66]

@@redking8243 Gannon and Link are Relative at Base level. Point is, when Link draws the bow Gannon can react to his movement of drawing the bow and pre dodge if not react to it directly. If you point a gun at someone the bullet will fly straight, if i can react to the drawing of said gun i can just move away from where its pointed without having to react to the shot itself. Obviously thats farfetched for a regular person. But im sure Ganon is fast enough to perceive link drawing the bow if not fast enough to dodge the moving arrow even after its shot. Ganon is a genius so its obvious to me that he could track the trajectory and react to the drawing of the bow to dodge..

[@redking8243]

@@WakeUpUniverse66 All based off the assumption that predicting an attack means it is slower and/or that it somehow means you don't need to have relative speeds to still dodge well, pure light. Your gun analogy fails when you realize that The gun doesn't require much movement to be fired. You have to pretty much react to the gunshot before it hits you. And you would have to prove Ganon was predicting Link firing his bow. As shown in wind waker, Ganon can dodge and even block light arrows which, basically kinda breaks apart your argument.

[@gamerhex7335]

Don't bother. The dude is biased

[@redking8243]

@@gamerhex7335 Who is?

[@Christewks]

This likely has to do with me not fully "getting" power scaling, as it seems more theoretical than practical. But a few gameplay things I felt you took for granted. Like light attacks aren't actually the speed of light in game. (Presumably because they have mass) Aside from nitpick like those, I would think that alttp Ganon was the result of his wish on the full triforce, and presumably more potent than just being enhanced by the ToP.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

A presumption as opposed to the facts in the video

[@Christewks]

If you're calling me out for my thoughts on Ganon, that's fine it doesn't matter. But if you're referring to light attacks, no. They are not shown to travel at the speed of light. At least not in the 3d games. Elemental arrows fire at the same speed as normal ones. Dead man's volley is at a snails pace. The difference is most easily shown with gaurdians. Their targeting laser instantly appears on Link once in veiw. Whereas their actual attack takes a noticeable amount of time to travel the distance. This is why I gave the justification having mass, to explain what actually happens in game. I was simply trying to bring this minor oversight to your attention.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

@@Christewks not an oversight seeing as it’s not a good debunk but thanks for being considerate 👍

[@fatdinosaurfood8059]

Stronger than cloud or not?

[@FierceDIO]

I wouldn't say Ganondorf is way more powerful than Demise. Demise was never a threat to Hyrule as it had not been founded at the time he attacked and he never really had a chance to be a threat due to Hylia and Link defeating him before he could do real damage unlike Ganondorf who ruled over Hyrule for seven years and almost obtained the full triforce. So I would say base Ganondorf is definitely weaker than Demise as he's just a powerful warlock while with the triforce of power he's relative to Demise.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

In the opening of SS, we see that Demise attacked Hyrule in the time of the living Hylia, when it was united and a functioning society. So that’s not true. Ganondorf > Demise

[@FierceDIO]

@@CRISIS_COMICS Hyrule wasn't founded yet, it's the kingdom that was created by Zelda and Link after they decided to live on the surface. There was no kingdom of Hyrule in the era of Hylia.

[@FierceDIO]

You can't threaten a kingdom that doesn't exist yet. You wouldn't say Ganondorf was ever a threat to New Hyrule in Spirit Track.

[@inenmity]

Yo, doesnt ganon wield the power of the full triforce in ocarina of time

[@redking8243]

No. Only a piece of the triforce

[@inenmity]

@@redking8243 wait really? I always thought he had all 3 there 😭 has any being ever held the full triforce before i dont remember

[@redking8243]

@@inenmity In the final boss, Ganon shows his only Triforce piece. The Story makes it clear that Ganon had not obtained the full thing. And Yuga Ganon came close, Link in skyward Sword used the full thing to seal the imprisoned, the King of Hyrule used the Triforce to wish for Link's victory over Ganon, and that's all that comes to my head at this moment to answer that question.

[@inenmity]

@@redking8243 alr thx, i just forgot if he had it or not on oot sry

[@redking8243]

@@inenmity It's fine

[@MitternachtssternXIII]

so the hero of time is stronger than goku ui?

[@Haruo-6768]

Ganondorf/ganon is a better villain and leader than bowser. Prove me wrong

[@devonoliver8896]

This video needs an update

[@a6brx_editz23]

Why? There's no new information for The Hero Of Time

[@andrewkiser2620]

how powerful is sans

[@The_dude_fantastic]

The hero of time and the hero of legend are both the most powerful heroes for different reasons kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpywZXx4bNiqpKM this should be able to clear up any questions

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

Zeltik isn’t a power scaler. That’s not a good video in that regard.

[@Izanna3]

W

[@LaymoSupraymo]

How powerful is Zelda?

[@beef3442]

Zelda can’t be powerscaled since she’s way to inconsistent and just does whatever is needed for the plot

[@LaymoSupraymo]

@@beef3442 ok.

[@ego.23]

As you can see. Not many people watched this video. Most people like your DC side. Just some advice.

[@zombiedemon1762]

I have a (possibly temporary but probably not) opinion that might start a war....... but I'm ready. Ready for KZbins greatest and worst soldiers to meet me on the text-based battle feild. There is a strong probability that Majora's Mask is the only good Zelda game........... although I never really played much of a Zelda game before so I cannot yet confirm this as fact.

[@nillynush4899]

Midna wields the Triforce of Wisdom for a time in TP.

[@3dstv786]

The hero of time cold be killed by the God of war guy and the doom guy

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

“God of war guy”

[@3dstv786]

Yes the guy you play in god of war

[@redking8243]

You mean Kratos right?

[@voltron77]

No, Ganondorf is not stronger than demise.

[@fewglow5076]

Ganondorf broke the master sword as a dried corpse. He's a little better.

[@voltron77]

@@fewglow5076 Master sword which was really shit in that game. This was probably the worst version of the master sword, before getting bathed in light for 10 000 years, ganon damaged it so bad it had to rest for 100 years and Ganondorf broke it and that’s not because they’re more powerful than demise. Tell me, how long has it been since skyward sword in the era of the wild. In SS, the sword has just been made and is at its full power, it’s only normal that demise wouldn’t be able to break it, but in botw and totk, the sword has existed for at least 10 000 years and it shows since it’s power is dwindling.

[@Mazhypic]

There's so mcuh that doesn't add up in this video. I don't think it quite works like shown here. If the hero of time were to be set up in a 1v1 against the other links I'm doubting he'd win.

[@voltron77]

Hyrule never faced demise, hyrule didn’t even exist yet.

[@niro6199]

I don't think it's fair to include his masks since there's a huge theory with pretty solid evidence that suggests Termina is a figment of link's imagination/ a form of purgatory. Therefore, his masks would likely not work outside of termina since there is a possibility that none of majora's mask was real.

[@redking8243]

Majora's mask is part of the official timeline in the Hyrule historia book and it ties into the hero's shade so yes mm did happen.

[@niro6199]

@ that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying you can’t count the tools and abilities link gets in mm due to the fact that they may not exist in hyrule

[@redking8243]

@@niro6199 You do know that all of link's stuff doesn't exist in Eldin ring right? Termina is a separate universe in Zelda but that didn't stop the ocarina of time from working there just to name one example.

[@niro6199]

@ why are you bringing up elden ring? That has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I’m saying if you’re going to power scale the hero of time it’s not fair to include items that can’t exist together ie. the masks and the items from ocarina of time. Furthermore, the ocarina of time itself does not work in termina, at least not the same way it does in hyrule. If that was the case then link should be able to warp in and out of termina freely using one of the six warp songs, or in hyrule he should have also been able to skip, slow down, or rewind time. My point is that you should only count items that we know work in the real world, or at least not lump the items from mm with the items from OOT

[@redking8243]

@niro6199 sorry about that. I thought this was the Link vs eldin ring video for a while. Anyways, i think it is fair to use them since the hero of time went through mm in canon. Also for your warp point, Those warps are specific for points in both Hyrule and Termina. Also for the time warping thing, I can just say that Link only learned how to manipulate time at the time he got to termina since he never needed to learn in oot and it wouldn't be wrong to assume. Although yes I think we should put different keys for the items in mm and Hyrule as long as they are not the same exact item and/or function the same.

[@Stasy809]

Yo link folds superman ong, he caries green rupees and kriptonite is green so he would run his pockets