How Sykkuno Felt About The Sajam Slam Incident at TwitchCon

[@wolvress8064]

Both him and Eskay did so much training just to get fucked over. I don't blame them for being salty tbh.

[@UhDewSea]

both of them 100% need to be in next slam for SF. No question

[@TheCackling]

The funny thing is Punk is known for complaining about losing a tournament as Cammy last year due to the laggy monitors so this just makes Sykkuno more like his mentor.

[@whimzycloud]

lol, I was thinking the same thing.

[@Engkime]

I was really rooting for both Sykkuno and Eskay after all the improvements I saw and the time they put into the game. Was sad to see they could not show off their plays due to some technical difficulties

[@LuminousLuna1]

The DELAY follows him

[@mozuchisato]

I can hear his voice saying the DELAY

[@jasonnash4452]

the people that are like mad they keep talking about the delay just have never worked for something in their life bro. imagine practicing for months for weight lifting giving up time you could be doing anything else and at the competition at the last minute they tell you you can only use one arm. like bro. its heartbreaking. eskay and him put so much practice in this just to get screwed last minute. but s/o to gumi and ultima. they lookes good and improved as well. i hope this doesnt overshadow the progess they made in the game as well.

[@makaisonn7030]

@@jasonnash4452 sir essay opponent played on the same system. The same set up. Both on the couch. What am I missing. They where all told to use "one arm" that what I'm saying.

[@pian-0g445]

@@makaisonn7030but there’s also the case of the characters. Blanks isn’t a bro’s dead character, but his reach far, and has 3 ways of doing it, his spiny move, command grab and slide. With a delay, especially against a command grab like his, there’s no other way to say it, but you are at the disadvantage. And Luke, while not necessarily better than Juri, is much better at zoning and keeping neutral. Eskay couldn’t really party his fireballs, which were really the only consistent and safe way of approaching him as juri. Just by pure chance, they both ended up against characters that their ones would be weak to in a certain aspect that the lag made much more so, since both there characters really require you be get in constantly

[@razedeye]

@@makaisonn7030lots of people have already explained. His character has the biggest disadvantage with the delay because Cammy’s whole gameplay based on the reactions and good timing. It’s just how character works. Blanka is easy to play with the lag because you don’t need to be precise, you can just mash buttons and do the insane damage. The delay basically crippled Sykkuno’s character while for Gumi’s character it was just a scratch.

[@makaisonn7030]

@@pian-0g445 I understand everything you are saying. I am discrediting nothing. I'm just saying there's one system. Nobody played on the set up they practiced on. So everybody had to adapt. Some better than others. It's OK.

[@Kalutikat]

@@makaisonn7030 Clearly you don't understand what he is saying. As a Cammy player you don't adapt with that kind of lag, its unplayable for the character which needs precise inputs. Blanka meanwhile thrives in lag, this happens in a lot of fighting games, Lowain in granblue comes to mind where he just stomps people when the game has big input lag.

[@Baseyy2]

It's so unfortunate. Syk put in so much work and practice. I would be salty af

[@Regent192]

I was there, Omie and a couple more people I didn't recognize came and sat at the front row watch his match. They left after he was eliminated. It was pretty sad to see

[@akaki3626]

I heard it was Omie, Buddha, Abby, and Mason

[@Regent192]

​@@akaki3626Buddha was one of them?? Damn I knew he'd hated to see that

[@BetterxWith]

3:15 Oh that's cool how Sykk acknowledged you!

[@blueowl2555]

I thought Sykkuno lost his gaming sense overnight when i saw the fight lol

[@jmarx3943]

That's rough. When you have a full second of input delay in a fighting game, it's tough for experienced players, let alone someone just starting out. Not to mention Cammy REALLY suffers in those conditions, especially against blanka ball.

[@SinkToTheBeat89]

To give context to how impossible reacting to Blanka is with 1 second of delay, note that the PEAK of human reaction speed is 100ms. In the FGC(fighting game community) we measure time in frames (60 frames per second, fps). This means the fastest the peak of humanity can react is 6 frames(6/60th or 1/10 of a second). Studies show that the best average reaction is 180ms(12 frames) and 12 frames is often used in the FGC as the basis for determining if something is reactable or not in the game. Blanka Ball starts up anywhere from 10 to 22 frames depending on the level used. The jumpy grab starts up from 34 to 43. So while on paper this SHOULD be reactable on all but the fastest blanka ball, due to the monitor delay of 1 ENTIRE second(60 frames) by the time you even see the move happening its already hit you. With 1 second of delay, it is literally physically impossible to react to.

[@SinkToTheBeat89]

In short, by the time the very first animation frame of the slowest move Blanka uses here, the jumpy grab, the MOMENT it appears on screen, you were already hit by it 17-26 frames ago.

[@evilded2]

To be far it was probably less than a full second delay, anyone would immediately be able to visibly see that. Anything over ~10f of delay is still functionally unplayable.

[@Kevin6t8]

For all the people mad that the delay keeps being brought up. Imagine having a full second delay on the steering, brakes, and accelerator pedal while you are driving your car in the real world.

[@Doople]

Very unfortunate that this favors blanka's gameplan. Its too big of an ask for new player to overcome that disadvantage. The salt is understandable and probably the most normal FGC response

[@janematthews9087]

Thank you for giving Streetfighter a try, and I hope you pick up it again in a few decades. I'll be here to watch you play Tekken again in the next Sajam slam that features it!

[@ChuckPickle]

Dee-a-phone always cracks me up

[@driftingobsidian8792]

He pulled up your channel for this breakdown 😲 It's understandable he's still salty, it shows how invested he was in this.💔

[@yunotuSYKK]

Not game related but did you know what it feels like to have delay. Imagine having nice connection but ur character having . Seconds delay of skill is the ultimate worst.

[@riverhalorix4203]

you can clearly see he's really upset. love the confidence of him knowing he's probably the biggest threat. im fuming on his behalf, he put so much work in and lets be honest, probably would've won or done WAY better at least. ugh. so mad.

[@kyril98741]

They should learn how japan Racoon cup did their event. They even have setup so they can hat vtuber could also join the games without the need to be seen in public.

[@zm6rnachrnau]

I doubt the general Twitch NA scene even knows about CRC's existence. Vtuber watchers are only familiar with it bc of JP corpo vtubers that participate in CRC competitions regularly. NA gaming culture is different from JP after all, so unless v-tubing becomes mainstream in NA gaming competitions, I doubt anything would change to cater for the vtubers.

[@Zoidberryable]

​@@zm6rnachrnau It sounds like the Twitch NA scene is behind on a lot of things, including how to make a basic gaming setup for a tournament. Vtubers are pretty popular in NA in general, 'catering' to those types of players and appealing to a wider audience would likely be a net positive. Broaden your horizons and all that.

[@jubbalubby]

A full second delay on the big stage no less, I'd mald too tbh

[@sully0613]

Oh acknowledged by sprout kingg

[@_cacachan]

Classic delayyy, from mario party to tourny 🥲

[@rickandnaruto]

Well if Esfand lost he wouldn't want to say anything either to sound salty.

[@evilded2]

No disrespect to Ultima but eskay has to be one of the most solid new players I've seen. There is simply no way they would have lost otherwise

[@ffxoverdrive]

Outcome may be different if Sykkuno gief-ed after replacing Doki. Sad that the tournament turn out this way though.

[@HAFIZZUDDDEENKHALIL]

no wonder i really thought sykk play his worst that day so sad tbh

[@LuaShine]

depressing.

[@kaharakahara]

it could be worse, you could've overslept and missed the whole tournament

[@shiroyukee8147]

I was wondering why sykkuno was performing really badly. Guess it makes sense now. I thought he never played with that green chara so he didnt knew how to play against him.

[@yedigemagavin1694]

??? He knew exactly how to play against him. He trained vs them for a week. It was just lag on tv.

[@zm6rnachrnau]

He has always won over Gumi's Blanka even during the round robin matches 😂 Why do you people lie like ??? 🙃🤣

[@xenxen2408]

​@@zm6rnachrnauThe guy said he initially thought it was the reason and was wondering why. Learn how to read.

[@bigsyeah]

He always won against blank. he really just lost because of lag. he was agaisnt a modern blank which means they press one button against him playing classic which he press a string of inputs to do a combo. and the only way against a blanka is parrying his ball and punishing his grabs by jumping

[@zm6rnachrnau]

@@xenxen2408 If OP watched ANY day of the Sajam Slam then OP would know, so why assume that in the first place? That just means OP never watched any of Sykkuno's rounds in the Slam and is acting like they know how Syk normally plays. 🤷‍♂ Yall wanna act like yall know how to read yet yall have zero comprehension.

[@Nimrod336]

Team brian_f needs to get a run back. I dont know anything about the cartoon tubers. Im from the fgc, that girl escey or w.e she actually was amazing like she has potential to be a great fgc player..

[@MichaelHarto]

That cat is distracting

[@makaisonn7030]

Everybody played on the same system. If you had lag i had lag.

[@masamune100]

Sykkuno's game plan relies on reactions while his opponent's did not. It's not an even playing field even if they're both paying with the same lag since it heavily favors his opponent's game plan.

[@iCanHasRandomness]

listen to what Syk says before you comment

[@makaisonn7030]

@@iCanHasRandomness it doesnt matter. they all had the same problems. so adapted better. did sykkuno opponent playon anther screen. on another set up?

[@mozuchisato]

@@makaisonn7030 no but Syk's opponent played on Modern while he plays on Classic. His opponent's character can spam some moves but Syk's character uses combo. He definitely had worst disadvantages than his opponent.

[@1inchMan20]

@@makaisonn7030you clearly don’t understand street fighter.