How THE CARDASSIANS Changed - LORE EVOLUTION

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Rowan J Coleman

Rowan J Coleman

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@LordDarthHarry
@LordDarthHarry 4 жыл бұрын
"...the Borg were another suggestion, however they were felt too powerful to be a regular reoccurring villain" Janeway: Hold my coffee!
@MrInvinciblewarrior
@MrInvinciblewarrior 4 жыл бұрын
The kaizons were a mix of cardassians and klingons. After both didmnt work, it was logical to move to the borgs. At least the cardassians could be fixed with the dominion
@TheDutchGhost
@TheDutchGhost 3 жыл бұрын
What I think the problem with the Borg is is to write good stories with them while preserving their "mystique" for a lack of better words. The Borg are very different from your standard foe type. They are not interested in politics, they don't do manipulation or mind games, and they are so vastly alien in mindset. They are a type of foe that needs to be very carefully used in order to remain effective and not diminish them as a threat like sadly happened in Voyager at some point. At no point should the crew have been willing to attack a Borg ship unless they had no other choice or they had a really major advantage. And the moment single Starfleet ships can wipe out Borg vessels with ease the threat the Borg represent is over. I do think the Borg should have appeared from time to time in Voyager, the Delta Quadrant is their home territory after all, but I feel that after Scorpion they were not really used well. Personally I would have liked to have seen more of the Hirogen, another foe that is powerful and enigmatic and can not be reasoned with in general. They don't care for political power, they can not be bribed (well not normally), they don't want Voyager's technology, and they don't easily give up.
@magic666z
@magic666z 3 жыл бұрын
lol, nice one
@BrightOranje
@BrightOranje 3 жыл бұрын
That was one of many problems with Voyager. Over-used one of the most formidable antagonists in Star Trek history and turned them into complete chumps. Easily the worst of the 5 pre-CBS live action series.
@craighewitt4674
@craighewitt4674 3 жыл бұрын
Shame new trek has no where near the creative talent like back then.
@hamder
@hamder 4 жыл бұрын
I would love episodes on Gul Dukat and Garak.
@RowanJColeman
@RowanJColeman 4 жыл бұрын
In the works :)
@hamder
@hamder 4 жыл бұрын
@@RowanJColeman love to hear it :)
@scaper8
@scaper8 4 жыл бұрын
I don't what you could possibly fill a video with for Garak. The man is merely simple tailor. Nothing remarkable certainly.
@MINKIN2
@MINKIN2 4 жыл бұрын
In a sitcom format too! And of course it would be have to be called "Keeping up with the Cardassians". It would be a crime against Federation law not to.
@Matteus2109
@Matteus2109 4 жыл бұрын
Check out Media Zealots' video on Dukat. He does "Villains too stupid to exist"
@ukmediawarrior
@ukmediawarrior 4 жыл бұрын
One of the reason I love the episode 'The Wounded' is that the Cardassians are so well developed in that single episode. You get the scheming Gul Macet, Glinn Telle who is simply doing his job by trying to hack into the Enterprise computers as ordered by Macet (but then to save face Macet chastises him in front of Picard), and then we have Glinn Daro who seems an honestly nice guy and tries to make friends with O'Brien. In one episode we are introduced to this new bad guy race and immediately see that as with humans they aren't all bad.
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 3 жыл бұрын
Also, talking of The Wounded, I'm almost ready to start finally writing that Cardassian War fanfiction, for fanfiction.net (The Ranks of Death - probably; CaptChris42)
@docsavage8640
@docsavage8640 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode
@user-nd7rg5er5g
@user-nd7rg5er5g 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrissonofpear1384 did you write it?
@RFEM520
@RFEM520 4 жыл бұрын
It’s good to see Rowan keeping up with the Cardassians.
@Handicrafti
@Handicrafti 4 жыл бұрын
People joke about it but younger me was devastated the first time I saw "Keeping Up with the Kardashians" on a tv listing and I tuned in expecting to see Cardassians. I was not a good speller.
@jackkreacherr9339
@jackkreacherr9339 4 жыл бұрын
@@Handicrafti lmao
@fakshen1973
@fakshen1973 4 жыл бұрын
When Picard gets captured... man that episode rocked. "How many lights do you see?" The acting between that pair was about Emmy level.
@dr4d1s
@dr4d1s 3 жыл бұрын
There are four lights!
@docsavage8640
@docsavage8640 3 жыл бұрын
No, it was actually very good
@tisFrancesfault
@tisFrancesfault 4 жыл бұрын
For me, Nog was a character I hated at first, But became a very likeable one following his desire to join starfleet. his characters maturing was a great turn.
@Alligator81
@Alligator81 3 жыл бұрын
There was an episode where Jake was behaving suspiciously, and Sisko finds out that he was teaching Nog how to read. That one really warmed me to all three characters, and I was pretty *meh!* about Jake and Nog when they were first introduced because I felt they were written as friends because there weren’t other characters their age.
@jonathansoko1085
@jonathansoko1085 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alligator81 I was really high and exhausted when i saw that episode. I cried for 11 minutes like a lil b*tch
@LanceCSTCuddy
@LanceCSTCuddy Жыл бұрын
Genuinely my favorite character in the series in terms of character development. Rom is high on that list as well. The Dominion war gave us so many great stories.
@RapidCityJM
@RapidCityJM 4 жыл бұрын
Gul Dukat is my hands down favorite Star Trek villain and in my top 5 favorite characters of all time. Honestly if Dukat (not Marc Alaimo's original Cardassian) had ever been onscreen at the same time as Picard my brain would melt. No exaggeration. Garak is my #1 character, I love his charm, his quips, and that whole spy thing (which is 100% slander against a simple tailor)
@redkommie80
@redkommie80 4 жыл бұрын
Both of the actors behind Dukat and Garak made them icons in how to play gray and self obsessed type characters. They are my go to when I come up with a character to add more gray then one note bad guys
@scaper8
@scaper8 4 жыл бұрын
@@redkommie80 Really _DS9's_ entire second-teir cast (and first line too) are a masterclass in nuanced characters.
@christianealshut1123
@christianealshut1123 4 жыл бұрын
But Garak did say at one point that he felt he'd joined the wrong secret service when Julian Bashir invited him to join in that James Bond holo program.
@leecollison7527
@leecollison7527 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the character arc of Damar was brilliant in DS9. I'm surprised you didn't mention him.
@RowanJColeman
@RowanJColeman 4 жыл бұрын
I'll talk about that more when I get to my DS9 Retrospective/Review.
@christianealshut1123
@christianealshut1123 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't Damar played by the ex-husband of the actress who played Torres in Voyager?
@seanmcgrath3826
@seanmcgrath3826 4 жыл бұрын
@@christianealshut1123 Yes he is, although they were already divorced long before either of them was cast
@Michael.Eddington
@Michael.Eddington 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Damar’s story is great. I especially liked his battle with alcoholism for some reason.
@jonathansoko1085
@jonathansoko1085 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael.Eddington damn cardis love their liquor, typical
@CoinOpTV
@CoinOpTV 4 жыл бұрын
Garek is my favorite spoon-head!
@weldonwin
@weldonwin 4 жыл бұрын
*DATS WAYSIST!!!!*
@elvisvwvw
@elvisvwvw 4 жыл бұрын
garAk
@JanoyCresvaZero
@JanoyCresvaZero 4 жыл бұрын
Elim Garak is the best character in Trek. Period.
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean 4 жыл бұрын
But he's just a simple tailor!
@yllbardh
@yllbardh 4 жыл бұрын
Garek is my favorite spoon-head *in this part of galaxy*
@tonywilkins9616
@tonywilkins9616 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone would deny that Marc Alaimo was THE Cardassian in Berman-era Trek but I also think Casey Biggs' Damar deserves a shout out too. From a one note underling to a ruthless right hand man to broken puppet King to freedom fighter. I loved his character at the end and Biggs had the acting chops to carry it.
@JeremyKShort
@JeremyKShort 4 жыл бұрын
You got through the whole thing without a single Kardashian joke.
@prphd555
@prphd555 4 жыл бұрын
Great job Rowan. You didn't just talk about Garak and Dukat the whole video, which is what everyone else does. The Obsidian Order thing was pretty effective. The beginning is so detailed.
@seancondon5572
@seancondon5572 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but I sure as hell didn't get through watching it without doing so.
@onidaaitsubasa4177
@onidaaitsubasa4177 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm maybe CBS could make a new show in the format of a reality show and call it Living with the Cardassians.
@jan_phd
@jan_phd 4 жыл бұрын
The problem was, none of the Cardassian episodes, showed how their social pressure caused their men to become transgenders. Or was that the 'Kardashians'?
@BrassChuckles
@BrassChuckles 4 жыл бұрын
What, like he's keeping up with the Cardassians. That sort of thing.
@PCLoadLetter
@PCLoadLetter 4 жыл бұрын
5:57 Gul Ocett in The Chase isn’t the first female Cardassian. That was Jil’Orra, Gul Madred’s daughter, in Chain of Command Part 2. She visited while Picard was being interrogated.
@glitterboy2098
@glitterboy2098 3 жыл бұрын
true, but Ocett was the first one where the character got enough screentime to really get a feel for the character. Jil’Orra was only on screen for a fairly brief time and most of what we know about her came from what her father told picard about her. plus, the scenes in chain of command were pretty poorly lit making it harder to get a good look, while Ocett appeared in plenty of well lit scenes
@robboyte1101
@robboyte1101 4 жыл бұрын
The genius of the Cardassians in the beginning was that you never quite knew what was going on with them. There was an oh-so-perfect mixture of transparency and chicanery, which created an unsettling feeling. "I know you're pulling something, but I'm not sure what and I can't quite prove it." Brilliant.
@jpenir
@jpenir 4 жыл бұрын
David Warner vs Patrick Stewart is one of the best storylines in Trek history
@Xizor15
@Xizor15 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad we never saw anymore Cardassians with that cursed "beard."
@MandoMTL
@MandoMTL 4 жыл бұрын
Masset would have made a decent leader.
@trekker105
@trekker105 4 жыл бұрын
The OG armor was cool though!
@OpeningSalvo
@OpeningSalvo 4 жыл бұрын
@@trekker105 OG?
@trekker105
@trekker105 4 жыл бұрын
@@OpeningSalvo original
@OpeningSalvo
@OpeningSalvo 4 жыл бұрын
@@trekker105 Ah! 👍
@treyregini7442
@treyregini7442 3 жыл бұрын
Andrew Robinson, who played Garak, wrote DS9: A Stitch in Time, which not only shed light into Garak's past but was an eye opening look into the Cardassian way of life before and after the Dominion occupation. Great book if you can get your hands on it.
@popkhorne5372
@popkhorne5372 4 жыл бұрын
Damar deserved to get mentioned. He appeared a bit late into ds9, but he was just great. Not garak or dukat tier, but just below. Also, glad to see you liked bashir in the end.
@TK_Brainslug
@TK_Brainslug 4 жыл бұрын
Garak just a humbled tailor I laughed so hard
@JemHadar422
@JemHadar422 4 жыл бұрын
That look O’Brien had when the Cardassians beamed aboard.
@docsavage8640
@docsavage8640 3 жыл бұрын
Like a belligerent drunken Irishman? Dime a dozen.
@richardmcgowan1651
@richardmcgowan1651 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh could be my favorite race in Star Trek but that is mainly from my love of DS9.
@marckrieger3277
@marckrieger3277 4 жыл бұрын
I am in the middle of a rewatch of ds9 and it is just amazing how god duet is, one of the best episodes of the series and in the first season non the less. In generall as far as bad first seasons in star trek goes i really enjoyed most of season 1 ds9. But by good julian was anoying as hell, i forgot how bad this character was until they made him geneticly enhanced. Also nice to see the star trek books mentioned some of them are really good.
@kristophertower3476
@kristophertower3476 4 жыл бұрын
ya the episode really hits, cuz after this, i couldnt hate the cardassians anymore, cuz now i knew not all of them were monsters
@Frankforsthoevel
@Frankforsthoevel 4 жыл бұрын
@@kristophertower3476 Cardassians are just a stand-in for Germans even in some dialog lines you can change Cardassian to german and yo will get a typical german stereotype
@Marveryn
@Marveryn 3 жыл бұрын
it was one of the most beautiful episode ever told. a man so distraught with what happen during the war he thought to make amend for his people. plus a glimpse on how much more then bad guy of the week they were
@Razorgeist
@Razorgeist 2 жыл бұрын
Harris Yulen did such a great job. When he breaks down and starts weeping i always tear up myself.
@johnnyonthespot1665
@johnnyonthespot1665 3 жыл бұрын
Keeping up with the Cardassians...nice!
@scotscovenanter
@scotscovenanter 3 жыл бұрын
Garak is my all time fav Star Trek character.... and one of my favorites of television, period.
@smahiz
@smahiz 4 жыл бұрын
"du cat and garak are probably worth an entire video each"... will hold you to that, sir.
@diomedesbc
@diomedesbc 3 жыл бұрын
Cardassians were always my favourite. Great video!
@literatiglee
@literatiglee 3 жыл бұрын
Love for all three of the main spoonheads! About Damar, all I can is: his eyes, his eyes!
@joaochiarelli3465
@joaochiarelli3465 3 жыл бұрын
Never forget the "There are four lights!" frase. Thats a great episode!
@foxmulder3748
@foxmulder3748 4 жыл бұрын
Cant express my love for star trek, and the fact that people make relevant videos about the "good old" series makes me warm to the soul, I am sincerely grateful!. +1 internet to you my man. cant believe i have missed your content untill now.
@SeaJay_Oceans
@SeaJay_Oceans 4 жыл бұрын
9:33 I look forward to those two videos - they absolutely earned the attention - two great performers giving life to two great characters !
@seancondon5572
@seancondon5572 4 жыл бұрын
10:09 - Yeah. Call it "Keeping up with the Cardassians"
@eeaotly
@eeaotly 4 жыл бұрын
:-)))
@venomgeekmedia9886
@venomgeekmedia9886 4 жыл бұрын
love the Cardassians, though i might be biased. while on a surface level we know very little, the writing is very stong and carry's a huge amount of subtext. i've covered this in several of my own videos focusing on the Bajoran Occupation and the Cardassian Border wars. but essentially Gul Madred is the ultimate source and he tells us everything we need to know. they are really tragic villains, pulled down a path of militarism by desperation. and it costs them in the millions. when they try democracy it gets stamped out by the klingons, and that leads them to selling their souls to the dominion, all out of desperation, a society that is just barely hanging on.
@herrerasaurstudios7028
@herrerasaurstudios7028 4 жыл бұрын
Cardassians always interested me for some reason
@umadbroimatroll7918
@umadbroimatroll7918 4 жыл бұрын
The idea of space nationalists is cool
@herrerasaurstudios7028
@herrerasaurstudios7028 4 жыл бұрын
@@umadbroimatroll7918 I liked them best in DS9 when they were more of a layered society. And on TNGs The Chase, when we saw the first female cardassian Gul Osech (however you spell her name)
@scinnyc
@scinnyc 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm a huge TNG & DS9 fan and Marc Alaimo's portrayal of Gul Dukat was probably the best played character in Star Trek history to my opinion. The Cardassians were very well fleshed out in DS9 and their superiority complexes sometimes even rivaled the Romulans. It's a shame that they never appeared in any films.
@michaellewis1545
@michaellewis1545 4 жыл бұрын
I think you vastly underestimate the value of a tailor. You have in a tailor who is used to dealing with people and knows that one size does not fit all.
@gregcampwriter
@gregcampwriter 4 жыл бұрын
John le Carre' would agree.
@vortega472
@vortega472 4 жыл бұрын
But no one's ever said, "First, let's kill all the tailors."
@josephtreppe467
@josephtreppe467 4 жыл бұрын
@Drew Taylor 1
@bryanboatwright1671
@bryanboatwright1671 4 жыл бұрын
In a novel written by Andrew Robinson, Garak did become the leader of Cardassia, but not in canon material.
@MichaelGonzalez-hd7kk
@MichaelGonzalez-hd7kk 4 жыл бұрын
Was looking through the co.ments to see if anyone else mentioned it. I haven't been able to read it yet and it is technically "Fan Fiction" but it is supposed to be a very good read. It takes place after the events of DS9 but includes flashbacks to prior too including what he did to get exiled.
@bryanboatwright1671
@bryanboatwright1671 4 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelGonzalez-hd7kk I might have been in error about Garak become president on Cardassia. The novel is A Stitch in Time
@shibolinemress8913
@shibolinemress8913 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelGonzalez-hd7kk It's called "A Stitch in Time", written by Andrew Robinson himself, and is a fantastic read!
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 3 жыл бұрын
@@bryanboatwright1671 yeah, no president, just a figure involved in the rebuilding and shaping of their new politics.
@Krushak8888
@Krushak8888 4 жыл бұрын
Do a video on Garrek he's my favorite character. His relationship with Bashir and also Quark and his root beer skit was the best.
@Kirkmaximus
@Kirkmaximus 4 жыл бұрын
You should check out his tribute video by "Outaspace".
@Krushak8888
@Krushak8888 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kirkmaximus i will have to I'm new
@BOdelaRUT
@BOdelaRUT 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Star Trek: Keeping up with Cardassians! What a Discovery that would be, eh?
@Desmond9100
@Desmond9100 4 жыл бұрын
Gul Evek is one of very few characters in Star Trek that appeared in TNG, DS9 and VOY respectively.
@TheAdorkableRJ
@TheAdorkableRJ 4 жыл бұрын
I've been rewatching a lot of Deep Space Nine lately, so this awesome video couldn't have come at a better time.
@shibolinemress8913
@shibolinemress8913 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Only wish you'd mentioned the novel "A Stitch In Time" by Andrew Robinson, an "autobiography" of Garak in the form of letters to Bashir, which Garak writes as he helps rebuild Cardassia after the Dominion War. It's one of my favourite ST novels.
@descendinguniverse
@descendinguniverse 4 жыл бұрын
wow I didn`t know the source of inspiration for Galor class, I thought it was just a fish haha Also yes, I think Bashir became a lot better through series
@vamp_bat_chomp
@vamp_bat_chomp 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah he started out as uncomfortable to watch, he was such a creepy nice guy, but he's kinda one of my faves by the end, love the friend dynamics between him and Garak as well as Miles. Was less sure about his Ezri romance, since she only had 1 season I would have preferred to see her single for it since I always enjoy romances more when I get to see the characters develop apart first.
@descendinguniverse
@descendinguniverse 4 жыл бұрын
@@vamp_bat_chomp well if DS9 was premiered now, he would have had a real romance with Garak haha
@vamp_bat_chomp
@vamp_bat_chomp 4 жыл бұрын
@@descendinguniverse I would have liked that. 😁
@Frankforsthoevel
@Frankforsthoevel 4 жыл бұрын
@@vamp_bat_chomp that's the thing... a huge part of her is her symbiont and they have known each other for 6 seasons...
@vamp_bat_chomp
@vamp_bat_chomp 4 жыл бұрын
@@Frankforsthoevel which in my opinion kinda makes it worse since that part of her didn't like him that way for the past 6 seasons. I like Ezri, their romance just didn't do it for me. I'm reading some of the books now and they end up breaking up and I think I prefer that.
@thekillerseat
@thekillerseat 4 жыл бұрын
I can't belive they changed the name to stop it being related to a existing group of people just for another group of cardasians to pop up
@RunnerX13
@RunnerX13 4 жыл бұрын
They already based Romulans off ancient Roman society and the Klingons were stand ins for Cold War Russian and then peace time Japan (with feudal Japan and Viking culture), so maybe they didn’t want another real world analogy
@cramer4506
@cramer4506 4 жыл бұрын
Well, the Circassians aren't really anything like the Cardassians, the Circassians were a small society driven to virtual extinction by a Russian genocide, so they are closer to the Bajorans than the militaristic and conquering Cardassian empire. It makes some sense that if you want to draw on their real-life parallels to not use Circassians for the conquering imperialists.
@t4rv0r60
@t4rv0r60 4 жыл бұрын
We need a cardassian show like yesterday
@DCMarvelMultiverse
@DCMarvelMultiverse 4 жыл бұрын
Standing in the cold MN snow warmed by Rowan's voice.
@budscroggins2632
@budscroggins2632 4 жыл бұрын
Alaimo also played a poker player in the classic 2 part TNG episode "Time's Arrow"
@Miss_Myth
@Miss_Myth 3 жыл бұрын
YES! He and Data conversing in French is Top Tier stuff. 🥰
@redringofdeathgamer
@redringofdeathgamer 4 жыл бұрын
Make those videos! Zod's favorite characters on the show would make a wonderful transmission by you.
@adamabbas1487
@adamabbas1487 4 жыл бұрын
Garak and dukat are two of my favourite characters of all trek. The actors steal any scene they are in.
@apostolispouliakis7401
@apostolispouliakis7401 4 жыл бұрын
Highly anticipated video for me, did not disappoint at all
@elimgarak4667
@elimgarak4667 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, it's me! I HAVE to read those books! Thank you so much for the recommendations and great content.
@albdamned577
@albdamned577 4 жыл бұрын
there were a couple of snipets from Voyager you missed that contributed to the Cardassians, specifically the doctor's episode with the Cardassian doctor called Nothing Human.
@columbatiberius2176
@columbatiberius2176 4 жыл бұрын
Cardassians are one of my favourite Star Trek races. I would definitely have loved to see a "Keeping up with the Cardassians" show.
@monoveloso
@monoveloso 4 жыл бұрын
So nice to hear the Star Trek Encounters music God dammit
@TheMelbournelad
@TheMelbournelad 2 жыл бұрын
7:15 wait is that voltron?
@thomaswaddell6181
@thomaswaddell6181 4 жыл бұрын
Nice use of the ST : Legacy theme mate. Mega nostalgia hit!
@terenceskill9526
@terenceskill9526 3 жыл бұрын
You have WOW/Teldrassil music score running in the background - what a fantastic combination. I, honestly, have considered this part of the WOW OST to be very Trekish since I´ve been listening to it for the very first time. Along with the Westfall score (the one with the horns), to say the least :)
@jaqenhghar2970
@jaqenhghar2970 3 жыл бұрын
loved how you explain the Circassian part, thank you!
@docsavage8640
@docsavage8640 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe learn what "aesthetically" means...your sentence makes no sense
@jaqenhghar2970
@jaqenhghar2970 3 жыл бұрын
@@docsavage8640 what are you talking about. Shut up...
@gregcampwriter
@gregcampwriter 4 жыл бұрын
These days, searching for details about the Cardassians results in a lot of pages about a certain family in Hollywood.
@HowIamDriving
@HowIamDriving 4 жыл бұрын
That cold blooded reptils?
@foxmulder3748
@foxmulder3748 4 жыл бұрын
@@HowIamDrivingBingo!
@maxwellcrazycat9204
@maxwellcrazycat9204 4 жыл бұрын
Dysfunctional family you must have meant.
@gorilladisco9108
@gorilladisco9108 4 жыл бұрын
@@HowIamDriving They can change sex at will.
@HowIamDriving
@HowIamDriving 4 жыл бұрын
@@gorilladisco9108 Typical aliens
@Galactus78
@Galactus78 4 жыл бұрын
Still have no idea what the Cardassian Neck Trick is
@redkommie80
@redkommie80 4 жыл бұрын
While I know what you mean, I think that was on purpose. Drive us fans crazy with ideas, but they never have to say what. But we all know Odo is great with it
@EnsignRedSquad
@EnsignRedSquad 4 жыл бұрын
It’s where Odo pops out his neck to look like Spoon head.
@Robert_St-Preux
@Robert_St-Preux 4 жыл бұрын
Garak is my favourite DS9 character. Every Garak episode is a great episode.
@arnoldtabor3767
@arnoldtabor3767 4 жыл бұрын
Id love a Cardassian spin off ... giving star trek a secondary perspective
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Cardassians, they're my favorite Trek race! I can't wait for your video on Dukat, and especially Garak.
@werefrogofassyria6609
@werefrogofassyria6609 4 жыл бұрын
The Werefrog heard the spoon head thing was because a kid of a designer stuck a spoon on his forehead, and it was cool, so he included it.
@daddyleon
@daddyleon 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love a series from a Cardassian perspective post DS9, that would be great!
@goransekulic3671
@goransekulic3671 4 жыл бұрын
Gul Dukat isn't only interesting because of Alaimo's perfect performance or because of quite nice writing, but also because he was...well...it's very interesting and enlightening to see how a shadow of a CHARACTER created a divide between a writer(or whatever he was: Ira) and actor itself(Alaimo). Basically Ira was convinced that Dukat is a "Space Hitler"(not true, he can only be some Colonel or the like) and Alaimo was on the side of "Dukat did nothing wrong"(well, not exactly, it's much more nuanced). It's a fascinating character, honestly probably one of the best ST has produced next to Picard, Kirk and Spock. High praise that. (oh and Garak, a simple tailor, often easily overlooked)
@richardm3023
@richardm3023 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite character from Star Trek, was Captain Sisko's goatee. I found it was a much more nuanced character than Commander Riker's beard. Second favorite character would be any Tribble. I would have watched a show about a Tribble eating grain and found it better than anything Voyager did.
@jamesf791
@jamesf791 3 жыл бұрын
The Cardassians were such a great villain. Especially when you got into the episode chain of command and in DS9.
@dougm2174
@dougm2174 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, Garrick has always deserved his own episode. He was my favorite character on the DS9
@tarync6539
@tarync6539 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder if we'll see any Kilngons or Cardassians on Discovery if i can bare to sit through another brutal episode
@trayolphia5756
@trayolphia5756 3 жыл бұрын
The best meme image I saw was of garage in conversation someone with the text being “reality tv? Yes, actually I do remember that our kind did dabble in that particular form of psychological torture several hundred years ago...however back then we spelt CARDASSIAN differently”
@monkmayfair3487
@monkmayfair3487 4 жыл бұрын
It is possible that the painting is Le Goûter, also known as Tea Time (Tea-Time), and Femme à la Cuillère (Woman with a teaspoon) is an oil painting created in 1911 by the French artist and theorist Jean Metzinger. It features a woman holding a spoon, with broad shoulders and large sloping connections to the neck, very similar to the Cardassians.
@stevedoktor1766
@stevedoktor1766 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and I love your use of Star Trek Online music 😄
@londonrhodes2429
@londonrhodes2429 3 жыл бұрын
What a cool premise for a series. Subbed.
@RowanJColeman
@RowanJColeman 3 жыл бұрын
Plenty more on the channel :)
@soulreaver1983
@soulreaver1983 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video dude!☺👍
@jmfowler9062
@jmfowler9062 4 жыл бұрын
Obligatory like for quality trek content, will watch later
@Razorgeist
@Razorgeist 2 жыл бұрын
A nice video on one of my favorite alien species from Star Trek. Wait a minute Stu Charno!? The prankster from Friday the 13th part 2 helped create the Cardassians. The shit you find out.
@terraspent
@terraspent 4 жыл бұрын
i loved this video! cardassians are one of the more interesting races for me and garack is a heavy contender for if i was to pick a single favourite character from the star trek universe "you'll be surprised at what one hears while hemming mens trousers" :P
@helpconflict9851
@helpconflict9851 4 жыл бұрын
"you could give them the their own spinoff show" Maybe Keeping up with the Cardassians.
@DJchilcott
@DJchilcott 4 жыл бұрын
Even though DS9 is a close second for my favourite Star Trek series, just behind Next Generation, the Cardassians are easily my favourite alien race.
@elpobrouse2277
@elpobrouse2277 11 ай бұрын
My favorite is Garak, Elim Garak. The quotes from him are worth a Wikipedia page. Like; " A an open mind, the essence of intellect"
@VoluntaryPerry
@VoluntaryPerry 3 жыл бұрын
To expand further on Cardassian culture read "The Never Ending Sacrifice" and "A Stitch in Time." The latter is about Garak and is written by Andrew Robinson
@glitterboy2098
@glitterboy2098 3 жыл бұрын
it also helps explain why in the novel continuity, Garak wound up in charge of the rebuilt cardassian union.
@christianealshut1123
@christianealshut1123 4 жыл бұрын
I loved that episode with David Warner as the Cardassian officer also - two acting heavyweights facing off each other (I think they often wrote episodes like that for Patrick Stewart, another being The Drumhead). But I think Alaimo is my all-time favorite Cardassian next to Andrew Robinson - and in my opinion one of the best Star Trek villains ever, mainly because he's such a complex character...And to give him this weak point, his faible for Bajoran women and have him ultimately brought down by that rather than by one of his grand-scale villainies is simply a stroke of genius. I'd never seen Marc Alaimo before but I found him a great actor from the start - that dangerous stillness, that Piranha smile - he reminded me a lot of Christopher Plummer in a way. He scenes with Louise Fletcher toward the end of DS9 were a joy to watch because those scenes with pairing off acting heavyweights, that's always where the best scenes come from (see above). I've noted that some of the species in Star Trek are actually based off real-life, historical Earth civilizations - the Klingons, for instance, were partly based of the Russians (their initial look), the Vikings (Stovokor = Valhalla) and perhaps a little bit of Japanese warlord culture thrown in. The Romulans were, of course, partly based on ancient Romans. The Bajorans I would say resemble Tibetans or Nepalese a little bit; their spirituality is really quite similar to Buddhists in a way, and their Kai could be a reference to the Dalai Lama. So could one perhaps say that the Cardassians are based off the Chinese (the Chinese after the Cultural Revolution in any case). I always thought their hairstyle was a dead giveaway; with their hair combed back from their faces, they looked as if they's jumped straight out of a Mao Zedong propaganda poster! And the occupation of Bajor could be a reference to the Chinese occupation of Tibet, couldn't it? Anybody here got any background knowledge on that?
@Yora21
@Yora21 2 жыл бұрын
The Bajorans could be inspired by countless peoples from around the world, their situation and struggles mirroring many catastrophic events from histors. But the Cardassians are straight up space Germans. And it works great.
@darrenrenna
@darrenrenna 4 жыл бұрын
Great video--totally agree that the Cardassians turned out to be one of the better TNG creations and DS9 did an amazing job of expanding them. Garak and Dukat were awesome and I'd love to see videos on them!
@Napoleonic_S
@Napoleonic_S 4 жыл бұрын
Never realized that the cardassian only debuted in season 4,I thought it was much earlier
@Valcon41
@Valcon41 3 жыл бұрын
That's one thing I enjoyed about DS9. They gave us a more in depth of each species first introduced in TOS and TNG. Also had more episodes that didn't involve starfleet. When you mentioned the Cardassians could have their own spin off. I agree, Something I would watch. Would like to see more spin offs solely based on other species
@zacharyjochumsen9677
@zacharyjochumsen9677 2 жыл бұрын
Rowan you never of the cardassian Kardashian joke
@countroshculla
@countroshculla 4 жыл бұрын
Duet is what made me a DS9 fan. It still is one of my fav Star Trek episode and in my top 10 list of stand alone episodes from any show.
@vinapocalypse
@vinapocalypse 3 жыл бұрын
Oh ,I wish you had mentioned two books about the two Cardassian-related books by Una McCormack;:The Never Ending Sacrifice which carries on with the story from the DS9 episode "Cardassians" and the story of the boy Rugal; and her book The Enigma Tales which is both a story about post-war democratic Cardassia with Garak has leader, and the book itself an enigma tale in plot.
@johnnafunkhouser5999
@johnnafunkhouser5999 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work!
@Skaldewolf
@Skaldewolf 4 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention 'The Neverending Sacrifice', which I consider an incredibly important source of Cardassia-lore.
@fgdj2000
@fgdj2000 4 жыл бұрын
Love these! Thank you 🙏
@RunnerX13
@RunnerX13 4 жыл бұрын
The best thing about Dr. Bashir was that Sisko outright disliked him, which went against two ST tropes. The first being the long standing relationships between captains and doctors and second being that Star Fleet was relatively free of interpersonal conflict. You could probably do a whole video on that, it’s something I’ve never seen discussed.
@marvhollingworth663
@marvhollingworth663 3 жыл бұрын
Dukat & Macet are also cousins in a series of 4 books called Mission Gamma, which continues DS9 under a new Commander called something like Elias Vaughn. Some characters were uncomfortable with Macet's presence because he looked so much like Dukat.
@paulsidhuUK
@paulsidhuUK 4 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with you about Bashir
@MJRookieForge
@MJRookieForge 4 жыл бұрын
oooo I like your content. This is nice! Can't wait till you do one on Trill. If you ever do on on the Trill.
@RowanJColeman
@RowanJColeman 4 жыл бұрын
Maaaaaybe :)
@MrApplemat
@MrApplemat 4 жыл бұрын
Got to say they are one of my favourite races in star trek plus I really enjoyed and liked their ships as well
@valentinofeltrin6617
@valentinofeltrin6617 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see them being part of the Federation by the 30th century :)
@ketchakik
@ketchakik 4 жыл бұрын
I love the cardassians. My current character in the Star Trek Adventures RPG is a Cardassian Science Officer in the officer exchange program (setting is just before the destruction of Romulus)
@JAnx01
@JAnx01 4 жыл бұрын
There is no such a thing as "the destruction of Romulus."
@hamzahsajjad7952
@hamzahsajjad7952 4 жыл бұрын
@@JAnx01 why not?
@JAnx01
@JAnx01 4 жыл бұрын
@@hamzahsajjad7952 A stupid hack made it up. It never happened.
@joejupiter4138
@joejupiter4138 3 жыл бұрын
Please do make those Dukat and Garak videos. They are most deserving subjects, and I'd be fascinated to hear what a considerate fan like yourself has to say about them.
@somarriba333
@somarriba333 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really like the Cardassians. I like their look, their uniforms, I even like the Cardassian females. 😁 Garak and Gul Dukat are great characters. Damar also became a favorite towards the end.
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