How the Cleveland Cavaliers Failed LeBron James (2003-2010)

[@entername9179]

any cavs fan will tell you our team failed him but then non cavs fans will try and say that it was lebrons fault Edit: The comments under this prove my point😂

[@frameddonut1056]

What do y'all think about the reaction people had when Lebron left nowadays? Because it was pretty ugly to see and it made the 2010 Cavs fans look like a bunch of immature adults crying about a player taking his career into his own hands. But then again, I'm not even American or a Cavs fan, so I don't know what it feels like to have the "Chosen One" in my team just to loose him for nothing in free agency lol

[@entername9179]

​@@frameddonut1056 hes definitely loved here nowadays hes our biggest legend. the reaction was very bad at first because people didn't want to see him leave. after he won us a chip and people started thinking about it with less emotion they started to realize how much he did for our team

[@leo_wentzel]

@@frameddonut1056coming from a non Cavs fan, their reaction really wasn’t that bad lmao. Anytime a star player leaves a team the fans always take it personally, and we see it in every sport: jersey burnings, signs, social media posts etc. One would say Cavs fans are mature as they welcomed back Bron with open arms and didn’t just blindly hate him cus he left when the organization was sorry.

[@johndebono1870]

@@frameddonut1056 I'm a Toronto fan, so have strong feelings about LeBron. Having the greatest comeback in finals history will get you a lot of goodwill.

[@IDisagree100]

It was lebrons fault

[@滋榎本]

LeBron left the Cavs because of their organizational failures. After drafting the 18 year old kid that was deemed ‘The Chosen One’ he lived up to and exceeded all expectations. LeBron James gave the Cavs 7 seasons of the best basketball an organization could ask for and they failed him. In those 7 seasons the cavs failed to hit on any draft picks and they also didn’t trade for another star. Still with no co-star LeBron managed to drag that cavs team to the finals in the 2006-2007 season where they got swept by Tim Duncan’s spurs despite LeBron having the most points and assists in the series. People like to bash LeBron for leaving the Cavs but they don’t know what they’re talking about, he gave them everything. It’s not LeBron’s fault for the cavs front office failures because given the situation, he was damn near perfect on the court.

[@charles-cjbox4661]

Danny Ferry, Jim Paxson, Dan Gilbert going to hell for deplorable decision

[@ricardolozano5356]

how does a bad team win 66 games

[@amastargaming5156]

​@@ricardolozano5356lebron

[@gokuswanson2037]

​@ricardolozano5356 when they have the greatest player in history bad teams can win games

[@ricardolozano5356]

@gokuswanson2037 who's fault is it when they lose?

[@Joswag]

I don’t blame him a bit for leaving It’s alarming when your best teammate is Mo Willams

[@RarelyEvenn]

I mean Mo Williams was a pretty good player. But if that's the BEST YOU CAN GIVE HIM? Thats pathetic.

[@Betroid]

@@RarelyEvennyou taking mo Williams over Scottie pippen?

[@user-wt5lm9kv1q]

Mo williams , 2009 all star

[@user-wt5lm9kv1q]

@@Betroidscottie pippen , THE ONLY ALL STAR JORDAN PLAYER WITH , when rodman joined he was aged LEBRON played with SIXTEEN 16!

[@Betroid]

@@user-wt5lm9kv1q who!?

[@casualbanter6939]

I hope Wemby doesn't end up in the same situation

[@gokuswanson2037]

Wemby won't but for completely different reasons.

[@timoehlers2265]

As a Mavs fan I hope Luka doesn't

[@dusk6159]

​@@timoehlers2265 At least Luka has special, great and unique moments. Every Playoffs and RS with him it's great, especially with the past series with the Clippers and Suns

[@theSafetyCar]

​@@timoehlers2265Luka has been in a similar situation but the Mavs are getting better

[@jodlaa5142]

Spurs will handle it don't worry

[@ktkeef8494]

I always said this , “LeGm” Bron only became a thing because of those 7 years in Cleveland! He most likely got ptsd from organizations thanks to those Cleveland years 😂

[@razkable]

Yeah but miami got him bosh wade chalmers haslem miller jones joel battier cole ray lewis andersen plus turiaf bibby big z house juwan pittman harris beasley over 4 years and he still left ...can't do better than that with the money draft and trade restrictions they were facing....thats a great run of players they added that contributed to titles and finals runs ...not a single wasted player there....

[@yvngxsensai]

@@razkableMiami didn’t get him wade and bosh, the players agreed amongst themselves all to sign to the same place at the same time

[@Aextra101]

@@razkablewell he left Miami for 2 reasons. 1. Wade and Bosh’s health were uncertain, especially Wade’s at the time. So it wasn’t clear if they could run it back and contend for another title. 2. He has unfinished business in Cleveland, now that they had Kyrie, Thompson, and Dion who only missed the playoffs by 2-3 games that year, all they needed was Lebron to be contenders. Kevin Love was just a sweetener.

[@yc99official95]

i think the pressure on the front office stems from not wanting to repeat the same mistakes the cavs organization did in his 1st stint, but since his 2nd stint, especially when it was winding down, there was mounting pressure to make moves to build a team around lebron, that's why the cavs blew up their team twice in a span of around 5-6 months lebron not getting enough help during his 1st stint with the cavs, inadvertently did result in him having a very large influence in the front office decision-making where they had to acquire pieces that would help him, thus the "LeGM" thing

[@captaincurt396]

Acting like the East wasn’t absolutely Putrid during that time. The West was filled with juggernauts

[@bballtotal]

It’s still crazy to me that LeBron led that awful 2007 Squad to the FINALS 🤯

[@M_11_m41n]

Okay, they weren't that bad. They had a really good defense and good coaching. They couldn't get any offensive to help LeBron ever since Carlos Boozer walked in free agency.

[@wh0r3chatas]

All time carry job.

[@juniorgonzalez3900]

Quit discrediting him. They were AWFUL. @@M_11_m41n

[@Lakersfan08._.24]

Lebron carried them to the finals that year.

[@transcribeded]

​@@M_11_m41nthey were the 4th ranked defense in the league. Really not a bad team.

[@Sai4651]

4:49 - The instant I heard mental health I knew that a Better Help Ad was coming

[@ethanchinnian3963]

😂😂

[@alanarmstrong6460]

And I keep hearing their horrible

[@roughbro]

Thanks for the timestamp so i know where to skip

[@demonreacts7816]

Those Cavs were 60+ win teams sometimes, but what’s sad about em is that most of it was cuz of LeBron. It’s also sad that revisionists use those Cavs teams to criticize him, as if Mo Williams, Larry Huges, an old Shaq and Big Z was apparently more than enough help for him.

[@volkarach0293]

excuses for lebron. big z was one of the best centers in the nba at this time...kids today didnt witness the time and lebron fan goofballs from back in the days forgott the reality

[@kolovikon2118]

Well let me get it clear: if it's 60+ wins team it's because of LbJ if they fail it's because teammates suck? How about "LBJ makes his teammates better" or it only works with the all-stars?

[@jadencedras6878]

Like at no point did anyone think they were actually gonna get a series on the lakers spurs and later the celtics while they were good defensively they were a horrible offensive team relying on lebron to carry and those spurs magic and celtic series show it

[@demonreacts7816]

@@volkarach0293 I grew up in the 2000s, at no point was Big Z up there with guys like Shaq, Ben Wallace, Dwight Howard, Yao Ming or even Marcus Camby. Hell, even if u count PFs that played center, like Dirk, Timmy D, KG or Amar’e, Big Z wasn’t even in the top 10. “Kids these days.” All the comments I see from u is complaining about LeBron LIKE a kid, ur point literally has no meaning.

[@shiningking]

Iverson had more trash teammates but he still won games against laker in finals

[@SnuggieMaple]

It will always make me angry how the Cavaliers fans reacted to Lebron leaving when he carried the franchise so much even that bum team to the finals! And then when he finally was done with it and left they burned the home town hero’s jerseys

[@Courtside3661]

I made a video on how incrediable Lebron James was during his tenure with the Miami Heat, If you could check it out it would be much appreciated.

[@ComaAlpha]

Something else I didn't like was the Cleveland Browns even drafting Mr. Football Johnny Jackass let alone putting him in over Hoyer. Hoyer is from North Olmsted. He should've been painted as the Hometown Hero in LeBron's absence in Miami. Instead they pulled the trigger on a flavor of the week college kid with a history of getting in trouble. It's painful being a Cleveland sports fan. Luckily we have Spyda and Mobley kicking some Eastern ass right now.

[@SnuggieMaple]

@@ComaAlpha Hoyer was pretty good for the Browns

[@ComaAlpha]

@SnuggieMaple he slipped early the same season they drafted Manziel and it's been disaster ever since because the Browns ruined his confidence by pulling the trigger on Manziel and his timing because they've never had an O Line to protect ANY of their quarterbacks. I think he may have a ring for being a bench warmer in Boston behind Brady. So somewhat of a silver lining. 🤷

[@RomnysGonzalez]

The 2009 finals... The Kobe vs LeBron final is forever gonna be one of the biggest "what if" in sport history

[@wavoe368]

As a kid I was so excited for this matchup

[@jamalwalker04]

Lakers win in 5

[@hsfazal00]

@@jamalwalker04bron & the cavs winning in 6

[@darnellwilliams8783]

​@@hsfazal00Lebron choked against the Magic in 09 yall gotta stop lying lebron had help he had Big Z mo willaims boobie Gibson and Ben Wallace and drew Gooden

[@williamtoad8040]

Unfortunately Dwight happened to choke the shit out of those finals who went from 25.8ppg on 65% FG in the 2009 ECF to 15.5ppg on 48% FG in the Finals

[@mar.cus15]

congrats on the first sponsorship man, glad to see your hard work paying off 🎉🎉

[@theshooterman3]

his first sponsorship is with a shady company :(

[@jacobporter419]

His first sponsor was a god awful company

[@BBallGOAT]

Thanks for this Dylan. A lot of MJ and Kobe fans blame LeBron for leaving Cleveland, but Cleveland never really built a solid supporting cast around LeBron. MJ threatened to leave in his earlier years as mentioned in Sam Smith's 1991 Jordan Rules book, and Kobe threatened to leave the Lakers for the Bulls I believe in 2007 after losing 4-1 in the Western Conference First Round vs the Phoenix Suns. I'm ok if you think MJ is the GOAT, I think the whole GOAT Debate is really subjective at the end of the day, but LeBron left Cleveland because they were not building around him and also there are rumours of personal issues with teammates.

[@MigIgg]

Yeah, and if it wasn’t for Scottie Pippen stepping up at the time and the Lakers acquiring Pau Gasol, then things would have been alot different today

[@kurtcometa4818]

The difference is the competence of their respective teams. The Bulls and the Lakers handle their stars' frustrations by making smart moves by drafting or trading great players to complement their stars and it paid off. I once hate Lebron because of this move but I'm still young back then and don't know shit so looking back I'm thinking right now that shit I'm glad Bron left that sorry ass organization

[@orbit5311]

for the record i think Kobe is the goat and i don’t blame lebron for leaving

[@juliuscaesar6994]

Bruh, lebron won in CLE😂.. Thanks kyrie lmfao.. But beside the fact, it's not like he's had trouble finding help, so why leave???.. Because he was losing?? Nobody else have 6Ls but bron

[@bmbrowns1778]

@@juliuscaesar6994 nobody else has 6 Ls in the finals because they aren’t good enough to go to the finals 10 times. What a stupid argument

[@87alock]

9:17. Man that roster made me physically cringe

[@Joswag]

Look at the 2001 Sixers to be disgusted as well

[@Bigedub101]

Exactly and they act like that's a Finals roster to go up against. Prime Dùncan,Parker and Ginobli

[@Mrballerize]

Tripping. That was a solid defensive roster, with all star help in Zydrunas Ilgaskus; and all nba 1st team defensive help in Larry Hughes.

[@razkable]

​@@Bigedub101I mean 9 of those 10 that played were the core of the next year finals team plus they kept newble as well and he played so that makes 10...just add rookie gibson replace murray with him plus play more sasha less snow and damon and you have the main 11 playoff rotation guys on a finals team...the 12th man played like a few minutes total in the playoffs that year so....

[@razkable]

​@@Joswagsnow is on both teams what a coniciendence

[@euro51116]

I've always thought that Lebron being drafted by his hometown Cavs, and thus having his legacy be attached to them forever, was the worst thing that could have happened for his career.

[@dusk6159]

It's the best to me, in abstract and substantially, the challenge, the connection, the ride, the downs, the thriving, the adversities. The 2016 comeback though, it's mainly because of that of course. Perfect. Thank god that he left and went to another eastern team though. And then returned ready and with some great moments like the 2012 series vs the Celtics and the 2012 Finals. If he was a Zion instead, of course It would've been already a ruined situation from the start and without anything to show for.

[@ericejoaquin]

In retrospect him leaving taught him how to win at the highest level. When he came back to the Cavs he knew what was necessary from himself and his teammates.

[@jonathank786]

Honestly it’s not a bad case but his career still went a good direction does make you think how dominant he’d be on any decent team in that era

[@euro51116]

@@dusk6159 2016 alone would put anyone else in the HOF, First ballot. I agree when Chuck says he is the greatest sports story of all time, but still i feel like had he drafted to a even remotely competent team, like Curry, KD, DWade, or MJ he would be the undisputed goat (and im a bulls fan lol) People give him shit calling him "LeGM" but its always been a compliment to me. It's because of the content in this video that he had to build that mindset because he couldnt trust his own front office to do any moves. Curry nor MJ ever had to lead and manage to magnitude of LeBron because they had organically built culture and elite coaching to rely on, Lebron never got to have that luxury outside of maayybe Miami (even then it wasnt to the level of the warriors or bulls). I still can't believe the Cavs owner publicly shitting on Lebron while he was already being shit on, the hate is uncomparable lol

[@dusk6159]

@@euro51116 You're right on, that's the main point (plus wondering the if "everything was easier, set up and conducive to rack up things and greatness", he might even wonder and want that more than the ideal unanimous support for his boatload of hard and harsh adversities and accomplishments, which who knows if he would do and accept all over again, but I and we are for sure thankful that he doesn't have a magical choice of that kind). But, although I am more talking from a specific viewer perspective, not the majority of viewer's one, instead of if I were him, I would still stick with that story, past (not intending and meaning to necessarily mention the life stuff, although the struggle of not having a father contributes to the magic, hope and battle - despite being always blessed and talented in skills and body of course - , and ultimate success), rise and comeback. It is just special and also outside of the standard things (MJ's doing being for example superior to any other, even over Kareem and his own titles, besides the evaluation with Lebron who holds up). After all, rightfully so obviously, there are still loads of sectors calling him the goat.

[@PER578]

I am huge lebron fan, but i wasn't around with his first stint with the cavs and this documentary helps me understand him much better

[@razkable]

No it doesn't....lebron choked a bunch back then...fact is he had enough to make many finals with the cavs and win the 2010 title

[@ineveryuniverse3953]

@@razkableI really hope your joking…because it doesn’t take a genius to know he had FAR from enough to win a finals in that first stint

[@lolomo5787]

⁠@@razkablehe had enough to make the finals? The moment he left cleaveland started getting number 1 picks lol. He is carrying scrubs his first stint and cleaveland. Im not even a lebron or cavs fan

[@BooBooDaFoo330]

@@razkable LMAO he led this shit franchise to the finals in 2007 and had back to back win 60 seasons in 2009 and 2010 and averaged 30 in the playoffs. Yeah he definitely choked

[@bmbrowns1778]

@le Jordan wouldn't have done sh*t with that cavs team either. Jordan is nothing without Pippen. top 5 player of his time and Jordan had him his whole career edit. Not whole career but for all of his rings

[@talesfromthetrip]

I'm not saying LeBron is the GOAT or anything, but Jordan fans gloss over the fact what he had to deal with his first tenure as a Cavalier. Jordan was literally put in the perfect situation and when they got all those pieces together, they started winning. If they switched teams, I'm sure LeBron's career would look like Jordan's and then some. Plus, they brought in the greatest coach to put the cherry on top of those Bulls.

[@Westlander857]

15:30 I had foot surgery the day LBJ hit that buzzer beater, and I remember springing up from my chair right onto my wounded foot. Thankfully I didn’t mess it up any more, but that’s one his top career highlights for sure.

[@Syientist]

Bro’s a JRPG fan, I love it lol

[@sfzndo]

facts, when the persona 5 mementos music hit I was vibing

[@JJ23]

Dog ever since playing persona 5 I swear I can’t do anything without hearing at least one song off the sound track (it’s so good I love it)

[@Syientist]

@@JJ23 ahahaha I peeped the xenosaga too

[@jacobswerbensky662]

I thought my playlist was playing over the video for a second when freedom and peace came on 😂

[@syts77]

Ok nerds

[@spjr99]

I am a LeBron fan. I am also a jordan fan. They accomplished different things. If LeBron for his first seven years had got proper help, or at the very least not completely incompetent front office, I would conservatively assume he would have another ring. It is just crazy to see them give up on amazing players for dogshit ones

[@gokuswanson2037]

Jordan was in a good situation. Not good enough to win but not bad enough to get great picks (very similar to lebron except Jordan's teams were a bit worse) I agree with your assessment. It's rare to see people make logical points like this, well done

[@Dimezprod]

I’m a fan of both too 😂. I’m too young for the Jordan era but he’s my favorite all time and Bron’s my seconds favorite.

[@PHXNKVHXLIC]

Would MJ have left Chicago for a better fit if Chicago never got Scottie? MJ fans don’t want to admit that acting like MJ was any good with mid rosters. The man has a negative W-L record in his career without Scottie and 1-9 in playoff series lol

[@1stAmendmentorDie1776]

​@@gokuswanson2037jordan came into s way worse situation.

[@1stAmendmentorDie1776]

​@@PHXNKVHXLICwould scottie have been who he wss without the goat next to him. No. Yall over hyping scottie so much. Meanwhile lebron has been outplayed by numerous guys in the finals.

[@EricTheActor805]

Do a video on The 2004 Charlotte Bobcats Expansion Team They tried to do the smart thing and tried to build a team for the future, it didnt work, all of their picks were busts. They sucked. How do you think they would have done if they built a win now team? In the expansion draft they could have taken veterans like Antoine Walker from Dallas, Jerry Stackhouse from Washington, Chucky Atkins from Boston, Eddie Jones from Miami, Ruben Patterson from Portland and some younger guys like Matt Barnes from LAC, Jason Kapono from Cleveland, Zaza Pachulia from Orlando, Gerald Wallace from Sacramento In the draft they would have had the 4th pick and their choice of Shaun Livingston, Devin Harris, Josh Childress or Luol Deng. None are franchise cornerstones but all had better careers than Emeka Okafor I think that would have been a year 1 playoff team with a 29 year old Jerry Stackhouse getting 15/3/2 in 30mpg at SG/SF and a 27 year old Antoine Walker giving 20/9 at PF, I think that Bobcats team, with the sake of hindsight knowing how bad they were at drafting and developing talent and knowing how leadless they were. They definitely would have benefited from having a more veteran roster and they would have benefited from having later picks in the draft, assuming that's a playoff team the first 2 or 3 years. The Bobcats expansion draft is a super intetesting topic thats never talked about. Looking back with the benefit of hindsight, what do you think was the best possible team they could have built with the expansion draft and their 2004 draft picks?

[@jamesultranba]

Yessir it’s always a good day when Dylan uploads

[@stringfalafel7692]

Respect for the pokemon music 💯

[@Kawhiburnergaming]

The title should really be “How the Cleveland Cavaliers failed LeBron James” Edit: w title change

[@MadGunny]

That’s what the title is now, what was it before?

[@SnuggieMaple]

@@MadGunnyidk

[@Kawhiburnergaming]

@@MadGunnyit was “how lebron james failed the Cleveland Cavaliers”

[@sparkyfister]

@@Kawhiburnergaming that's what it should be

[@JokicCantBeatTheWizards]

@@sparkyfisternuh uh

[@SalRubino82]

WHO THE F wouldnt leave? No superstar EVERRR had such horrid teams the first half of their career.Look what happened the second he left 4 STRAIGHT finals with Miami then comes back and gets ROBBED in 2015 of a title when Kyrie busts his phucking kneecap yet wins the greatest ring in history the following year.Once he accomplished that he goes to LA and wins AGAIN during a pandemic that was mentally tough winning another ring.21 years of pure outstandingness IF HE ISNT THE GREATEST EVER THAN HE IS RIGHT BEHIND THE GREATEST

[@DeadPlayin]

holy smokes, these videos are so well made bro 🙏 it’s always a great time watching them. great music choices too 🫡

[@solemagus4761]

* Shot for 22ppg, .395fg, .200 3pt, .69 FT% and commited 23 of the Cavs 44 turnovers in 07 Finals while Media and Bronsexuals blamed teammates

[@breonwilliams7]

I never understood why the Cavaliers couldn’t get LeBron the help he needed in his first stint with them, but in his 2nd stint he got a lot more help. I feel like it’s because in LeBron 2nd run with the Cavs he knew what it took to win a championship.

[@TheForkOnTheLeftist]

LeBron Stans still make the same excuse no matter how much help he gets. No one wants to consider maybe he's just not that guy

[@rjcarless]

Biggest mistake was not trading JJ Hickson for Amare Stoudemire.

[@1farin]

These video qualities are getting better and better

[@aappaapp6627]

I love the editing and memes you've been including recently!

[@Courtside3661]

I made a video on how incrediable Lebron James was during his tenure with the Miami Heat, If you could check it out it would be much appreciated.

[@spicy4230]

It’s insane how the cavs had a generational talent lebron for 11 seasons and only managed to win 1 championship

[@Disneymagic24]

First stint they could have won one but the 2nd stint they didn’t have love or kyrie Irving for the entire playoffs in the first year and then after kyrie left, how are you supposed to beat 4 hall of famers on golden state ?

[@Angel_559_]

​@@Disneymagic24They would've never won in his first stint

[@Angel_559_]

​@@Disneymagic24Were they ever going to beat the Spurs or Lakers in the finals?

[@raavenzen6100]

The super mario 64 music in the background is just 👌

[@vladleon2307]

The 21 years of seeking help. This guy took "stop it, get some help" to literally

[@Betroid]

Mj didn’t have to look his legendary gm sat hall of fame players on his lap

[@zaidkidwai7831]

Love your videos man. Great storytelling and editing.

[@AlanBaller10]

His vids are ass lol he's a nobody talking about NBA players how they failed lol bro don't talk about how he's falling in his life rn lol tf this guy do huh

[@Courtside3661]

I made a video on how incrediable Lebron James was during his tenure with the Miami Heat, If you could check it out it would be much appreciated.

[@paulusrumanouw3176]

Cleveland in 2009 & 2010 was actually seeded no.1 in the league with 66w and 61w, so they did have a strong team to win it all or at least expected to be in the Finals with home court advantage through out.

[@razkable]

The 2010 cavs were built to make the finals and challenge bryant....lebron had already decided the summer before that he was leaving...that 10 cavs team after the jamison trade was nice af...they had delonte varejao gibson hickson big z off the bench with shaq jamison bron mo will and parker starting...in 2010 that's a finals roster

[@paulusrumanouw3176]

@@razkable yeah so the notion that the Cavs organization failed LBJ by surrounding him with bums is not entirely true!

[@TheForkOnTheLeftist]

@@paulusrumanouw3176of course it isn't. someone should make a video comparing that Magic/Cavs series to Nuggets/Lakers last year. The team is good enough, but is Lebron good enough in the big moments?

[@Chef_curry_30.]

​@@TheForkOnTheLeftistexpecting LeBron to carry this team at 39 is the biggest reach typical Michael Jorgamble fanboy 😭🙏

[@TheForkOnTheLeftist]

@@Chef_curry_30. first off Kobe is my goat so great job assuming and being wrong lol. Secondly, who said anything about carrying? The team got him into the big moment and he gagged. Game one he missed an idiotic early shot clock 3, game 2 he missed a practically wide open layup, and game four he missed two straight clutch shots in a row when he had wide open teammates. You can't even make the dumb excuse that he "made the right play" lol he choked just like many other years. Keep slurping though

[@alfasiger4178]

Nuggets got the same problem regarding reliance. When Jokic goes off the floor, they dont know what to do. Too much reliance on one player increases losing chances.

[@Idontknowhoiamanymore]

Difference Jokic won a ring

[@Vyuel]

Nuggets still good tho, didn't they beat the clippers without Jamal Murray and Jokic by like 20 earlier this season? An actual WORLD of difference in supporting cast lmao

[@alfasiger4178]

@@VyuelYeah, but lost every other game with both teams having full rosters.

[@gokuswanson2037]

​@@Idontknowhoiamanymorethe difference is Joker had a solid team and great Robin

[@Idontknowhoiamanymore]

@@gokuswanson2037 you guys love making excuses for lefraud

[@cl5rys]

couldnt have said it better, ive thought of this for a long time but recently it really hit me then i see this

[@ForzasPanda]

Never thought I’d hear “Respect Your Elders” from Smash Melee on an NBA video 😭😭

[@JTFIghter6969]

Dylan I love the P5 soundtrack choices. You use that shit real well.

[@Foreriverricky]

Michael redd has gone on record saying he chose the bucks. Larry hughes was the 3rd option they wanted, first 2 being ray allen, then michael redd. Get ya facts straight bro

[@DMalltheway]

He chose the $$$$

[@Foreriverricky]

@@DMalltheway from the interview, I saw it sounded like it was more a comfort thing since he started his career in Milwaukee, and they took a chance on him with him being a second rounder. I believe he stated that on all the smoke, but I may be wrong. He also said that he regrets not going to Cleveland because he feels like if he was on the Cavs when they played the Spurs they could’ve won.

[@DMalltheway]

@@Foreriverricky Cavs didn’t offer as much as MIL, that’s what it came down to and honestly it wouldn’t have made the Cavs much better.

[@gunprojects5398]

LMAO the fan in the beginning who said Lebron leaving is "the worst thing that ever happened to him" used to be the producer on the biggest morning radio show in Cleveland #RMG, so it may have been a joke... but he was a good dude but was famous for crying on the air many times, back when #RMG was great...

[@KopiMoto]

Imagine giving Lebron the help he needed early in his career, that would've sealed the goat debate.

[@gunprojects5398]

love the subtle nod to the Corneria theme from SSBM lol

[@schmidtytime]

babe wake up, dylandoesbasketball dropped a new video

[@fevers94]

I love your vids but saying the Cavs chose Hughes over Redd is a straight up falsehood. The Cavs offered Redd the maximum amount of money they could and he chose to re-sign with the bucks. They obviously wanted him more but there is nothing more they could have done. Its easy to dunk on them for not getting the guy in hindsight but shitty to say they chose anyone over him when they offered him the max they could and he didnt want to sign regardless.

[@watershed6092]

Exactly. I like his videos too but he’s missing many key aspects, including the Jiri Welsch trade, which I commented about. The Cavs did not trade two unprotected first round picks.

[@AromalHarik]

@@watershed6092 all that was fine but giving up amare was litteraly terrible

[@redriot3008]

Whenever I watch Dylan’s video I always sit down and grab something to eat it’s like a mini movie 🍿 ❤

[@brokenglass0642]

This is a great part 1, cant wait to see what part 2 looks like!

[@Courtside3661]

I made a video on how incrediable Lebron James was during his tenure with the Miami Heat, If you could check it out it would be much appreciated.

[@watershed6092]

6:15 The Cavs didn’t trade two unprotected first round picks for him. They traded their own 2007 pick - which was top-10 protected. They already owed their 2005 playoff-protected pick to Charlotte, and in order to complete the Jiri Welsch deal they chose to unprotected. I know this is a mouthful, but you really should clarify this when you are making a video.

[@JWex-jy7sk]

That and when he talks about Larry Hughes and Michael Redd he says “They chose the wrong guy” Well they didn’t choose Hughes. I’m a Bucks fan and can tell you Redd has gone out and said it was loyalty that had him re-sign with Milwaukee. They were kind of left with no choice but to chose Hughes cause Redd rejected them

[@JohnEmmanuel-sc9qu]

First Team All-Cardio is crazy 💀💀

[@Gator656]

Bro PLEASE POST MORE

[@KyleLowryRaptorsGOAT]

I can't believe the Cavs chose Hughes over Michael Redd. Redd was really underrated

[@thacryinggame]

Dan gilbert worst owner in the history of sports bro.

[@NateTheGr8ness]

Michael Redd was a problem on the court.

[@joelbrown5932]

Most players that are drafted top 5 have a hard time developing team chemistry Bird and Magic were lucky they were drafted into a good situation not a team building situation it’s a big difference

[@AteCerealWithNoMilk]

Lmao @ 1:17 the worst thing? So going bald, or crying over another grown man are not above that? 😂

[@pio7763]

GOAT discussion would be over if they didn't waste LeBron first 7 years. He would have at least 2-3 more rings.

[@ghoul5371]

Agreed

[@TRYNDD]

And if Jordan was Drafted to the Lakers he’d have 10, if he joined Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley or any other great of that time, especially if he went to New York he’d have more rings, LeBron would have at most 2 and probably just have just 1 if he never left Cleveland…so many ridiculous excuses and what if’s by LeBron fans, is this how you live your life as well?

[@pio7763]

@@TRYNDD my what if is still valid. You can create other what if that is also valid. We can both be right in our divigations. And Jordan would win 💩 without Scottie, Rodman 2 Hall of famers plus Kukoch Harper and other very good players.

[@christophermauro-barias7451]

im so glad players like Kobe and MJ didnt give up and People like Jerry Buss and Krause werent stupid

[@razkable]

Kobe was given shaq ceballos elden van exel old scott and horry to start and then got jones and fox and then harper and a.c. shaw and rice...he was fine early on....

[@christophermauro-barias7451]

given? no more like they were already there lol@@razkable

[@BooBooDaFoo330]

Bruh what are you talking about? Kobe was ready to walk outta LA in 2008 until Jerry West saved his ass with Pau Gasol

[@christophermauro-barias7451]

@@BooBooDaFoo330 you mean when he wanted a trade and said it publicly and rescinded it after he was talked to by the org?

[@BooBooDaFoo330]

@@christophermauro-barias7451 do you remember when Kobe quitted in game 7 against the Suns in 2006 after blowing a 3-1 lead 😂

[@RomanticCancel]

I remember that the Miami stuff happened when I was in the Middle School range and at the time I felt like he was being disloyal but when I got into my 20s I empathized with LeBron so much more. Granted The Decision is still kind of cheesy the circumstances surrounding his place in the NBA was something that I didn't realize how draining it must have been to be giving legendary performances for years and begging for help, only for the front office to give him a nearly retired Shaq and Anthony Parker while declining the deal to get Amar'e Stoudemire. I can't imagine how insulting and soul draining it is giving incredible performances year after year and being treated so cheaply and the Cleveland front office didn't deserve LeBron's work, especially now that we know how much effort and constant work he put into his body and craft. I'm happy that the Cleveland fans who treated LeBron well got closure in 2016, but that entire front office in the 2000s didn't deserve the amount of work LeBron put in. The silly comic sans letter is kind of really telling of that office's professionalism and arrogance, which made the huge record drop even more ironic after LeBron left (winning a Finals without LeBron, huh?). Another great video. I always drop what I'm doing when this channel uploads a new documentary.

[@1peidu]

19:20 We just gonna gloss over this one?

[@mobilebosco]

Love to see you getting a sponsor man!! Your content is always so entertaining you deserve all the success

[@Hyunation]

no one should have to pay a single cent for mental health help.

[@jalen4945]

Your videos are great man keep it up!!

[@kauffamn1016]

Joining an fmvp and championship team in d wade , and taking Bosh with you , watering down the already weak east , was a low integrity move . Lebronze let it be known he was chasing mj , and felt the pressure of not winning anything in Cleveland , so he jumped ship . Bcuz Lebronze isn’t a good leader , and couldn’t figure out how to play in a system , that’s why he never formed a dynasty . Instead he trades players , and fires coaches , and is a stat padder bcuz he knows he fell short of mjs greatness . The fact he choked in 2011 is karma , and getting spanked in 2014 , karma . Yall make excuses for your king , don’t make it right . He’s not competitive , and you can see this Banana boat culture friendly league Lebronze turned the nba into . No killer mentality . His longevity and stats is all he has left , in his mind . Doesn’t make you greater . Even his longevity is flawed .

[@GALuigi]

4:59 lmao knew it was a betterhelp ad right here.

[@verbalkint3447]

Listening to this emotional nonsense makes me nauseous. The younger generations and their ineptitude to separate objective reality from narrative spin is obscene. You, dogging Lebron’s teammates shows your lack of understanding in the game of basketball. The reason Lebron’s teammates played so poorly is the same reason a majority of his role players play so inconsistently. Lebron James can only play in one style of offense. A heliocentric offense where he handles the ball and makes all the decisions. His teammates just stand behind the 3 pt line awaiting Lebron to pass to them. It’s very difficult to get into a rhythm playing this type of offense. That particular offense loses out to teams with an actual team concept where the ball is shared between the players on the floor. Stop feeding into the excuses the pro Lebron media keeps perpetrating on his behalf. It’s a disingenuous take

[@theexaltedlt8222]

bro you dont get top 4 all time in assist by having your teammates just stand at the three point line. get real

[@davidwilliamson2341]

The East was the weakest conference in my 60+ years of the NBA most over rated Athlete in history! Fraud! King of turnovers missed shots 33 bad NBA records! Lediddy, Diddys Bottom 5!!!

[@nathanlong1908]

1st team all cardio is hilarious 🤣

[@alanboi9470]

Finally a Cleveland LeBron video

[@Sup_bro23]

Lmao Cavs didn’t want to trade JJ Hickson and Igauskas 😂

[@dusk6159]

Just shameful

[@bfns23]

Pathetic. LeBron should've left way sooner. Then the owner had the nerve to write that abysmal letter slandering LeBron. What a punk

[@IcePhoen1x694]

Yeah wtf was he thinking? Originally I knew the cavs office was incompentent, but I didn't know they passed up on Stoudemire to keep a 2k generated player JJ Hickson. And then lebron left and he said cavs would win before lebron. Like what?

[@razkable]

They didn't want to risk losing young cheap trade asset hickson for just a few months of amare without lebron committing to stay...they could of lost amare and lebron that summer and it didn't guarantee a title...jamison made more spacing sense with varejao shaq big z on the roster...

[@YGacs]

@@razkable nah. the cavs DEFINITELY would've reached or even won the finals if they had amare that season. If the cavs were close to beating the celtics WITHOUT amare, imagine what they could've done if he WAS there.

[@CYMotorsport]

As an Ohioan it’s always funny to hear ppl say lebron kn Cleveland wasn’t as productive. Statistically he was the most productive player in modern basketball history when comparing him to his peers and his relative talent around him. And I don’t even like the guy but that much isn’t up for debate it’s just the data.

[@Mysterybabylon696]

Any time someone gives him shit for going to Miami they always leave out the part where cavs management did nothing to build a championship contender around him.

[@bfns23]

Exactly

[@razkable]

Meh the only big mistake the cavs ever made was letting boozer go...and maybe drafting luke jackson so high...

[@gobot581]

​@razkable thats not how running a franchise works. List the potential championship moves they made other than being lucky and getting a number 1 pick. In all the drafts, offseasons and trade deadlines just list the great moves in 7 years

[@danny7462]

babe wake up dylan posted

[@kreedosowavy]

cavs failed him but this doesn't change the facts that LeBron chokes sometimes hence he can't be ever compared to MJ cuz MJ ain't allowing opposing teams to gi game 7. LeBron had it all when he was on Miami. It was his prime but the meltdown vs Dallas and those Spurs rivalry cemented to me that he's just another Wilt Chamberlain / Shaq-ish talent. Freak of nature but lack that killer instinct. Been a fan of Bron ever since 07 finals vs prime Spurs and still to this day but I ain't gon dickride the man like that. Bron could've had the greatest career but there's just MJ.

[@Angel_559_]

In 2014, Wade was older and The Spurs were the better team

[@editorodriguez6554]

I don’t believe Cleveland failed him. He failed Cleveland.. he never lived up to his manufactured expectations. Never made anyone around him better. And doesn’t have what it takes to win a championship unless you have other top ten superstars to carry him like Wade Bosh Kyrie, Irving, Kevin Love, and Anthony Davis have. Jordan only got better, but made his team better and made him a championship team and turned them into a dynasty. Something that LeBron was never able to do so he felt Cleveland not the other way around.

[@antgarcia45]

Imagine blaming the organization and not yourself whis supposed to be the goat . Fxkn lebum and his excuses

[@bayleymonin]

Imagine thinking JJ Hickson is more valuable to your team than Amar’e Stoudamire

[@loudy12]

3:49 the way the cavs let boozer go was nasty worl

[@razkable]

They replaced boozer money with gooden varejao more big z and marshall plus big ben...I think it worked personally....boozer wasn't worth it...they had more depth without him over those years after 04

[@uncleGravey5]

This guy is the Emplemon of basketball, I love it 😂👍🏼💯

[@JuanTonSoupXP]

Can we get an elbow reveal? The people wanna see bro

[@newagestudios408]

They really gave Bron everybody after their prime l🤦🏿‍♂️ Ben Wallace, Shaq, Jamison all past their prime

[@Nahaintnoway]

Babe wake up Dylan did more basketball

[@derekgreen7319]

I think one of the better "what ifs" in basketball history is if LeBron went to Detroit instead of Cleveland.

[@hanschristiantumarao9931]

the fact that LeBron led this team to finals and let alone win 60+ games on multiple seasons truly is a testament to his greatness. The Cavs fo should feel ashamed about how they handled the situation.

[@ricardojurado5544]

Let’s gooo new video

[@TM-xp7hd]

if HELP is what he needed, he got that in spades in Miami and still left. The Warriors dynasty might have never even happened... they couldv'e easily earned another 4-5 rings. It's fine to blame the early years on the cavs ... but every failure after that stint, sits squarely on his shoulders.

[@heretolevitateme]

LeBron didn't win until Miami slid him to the 4, stopped clogging the paint and surrounded him with shooters. You can say a lot of things about those Cavs but surrounding him with Boozer or Amar'e or some other 6'9" guy who couldn't shoot wouldn't have got it done either.

[@jaydot4956]

You don’t know basketball bro, Amare was an all nba player who was at his peak in 2010, if you put him with Lebron in 2010 that’s like putting AD with a 25 year old Lebron. And all they would’ve had to give up was an old illgalskus and JJ hickson.

[@heretolevitateme]

@@jaydot4956Ah yes, Amare, who is well known for his postseason accolades, would have certainly gotten the Cavs over the postseason hump.

[@jaydot4956]

@@heretolevitateme what was AD doing in the playoffs before he teamed up with Lebron? He joined Lebron and won a title his first year in LA and that was with a 35 year old Lebron, you mean to tell that Lebron in his athletic peak couldn’t win a championship with prime Amare??? Are you high?

[@Letskeepitreal-b9n]

​Yes but no they also had three point shooters and ad was lockdown and that is was all LeBron teams need a knowdown three point shooters and a dude who can lockdown the paint

[@AromalHarik]

@@Letskeepitreal-b9n not really. different era. every team sure needs shooters but at that time they dint need it. in 2009 magic beat cavs solely because they lacked big men. when they faced LA with odom gasol and bynum they got dominated. amare was litteraly enough

[@3blakguy]

Please do one on the second cleavland stint

[@JamRap]

Persona music goes crazy

[@richborn6700]

Secret Base also has a really in depth two part documentary about the Cavaliers. Part one is the formation and early struggles, part two is an hour long video on LeBrons first stint in Cleveland. I recommend watching both

[@tzwen70]

Love the videos

[@IliasKoureas]

Congrats on your first Sponsor brother!

[@SplendidNinja]

Lebron has(d) such a historic career with basically wasting almost the 1st half of his career with the cavs

[@mickeydusk]

Lebron needs more help guys. He needs another guy that does everything and takes all the pressure of him. Then Lebron can focus on his statpadding and all is right in the world.

[@mateuswj]

he shouldve left cleveland wayy earlier fr.

[@narrow3601]

There ain't no way y'all are actually going in the replies just to keep saying "#1 Defense + Mo Williams, BIG Z and don't forget Larry Hughesss!!!" Like mf there ain't no way. What's next y'all boutta hype up Anderson Varejao???

[@Disneymagic24]

Dude these guys want to try to manipulate anyone to hate lebron and discredit him . Were those guys good players? Yeah but because they played with lebron

[@01darkeric]

Why do I hear a Pokémon battle theme? 😂😂😂

[@lawrencecarter8072]

Lebron overrated ,,,scores when it dont count,,playoff chokers,,,,and call himself goat when not even in conversation. Only kids like lebron

[@bandzyolo]

Cavs should of pulled a spurs move and tank once they saw bron really was him imagine if they got a top 3 pick early in bron career

[@gokuswanson2037]

Lebron was literally too good to tank lol. MJ was able to help his team more by being worse in his early years

[@Letskeepitreal-b9n]

That was the problem LeBron was Good that there was not tank and when they missed the playoffs the first two years they were draft busts

[@coreylevine8095]

They did Tank and got Iring

[@gokuswanson2037]

@@coreylevine8095 Lebron was in Miami..... and the cavs stayed in the lottery until lebron came back

[@SpursOn3]

They didn't fail lebron ,lebron failed them dude got coaches that tried to help him fired so yea do better research dude a narcissist

[@charles-cjbox4661]

Inconsistency from The Cavs, mediocre draft picks, Mid GMs, Mo and Big Z being all-stars but not really superstar caliber players. In reality, I can’t judge Bron, KD or the Celtics Big 3 due to the fact it’s happened before in the History of the NBA. Fans get pissed at players for leaving organizations that don’t care about winning or continuously play the field of being cheap for shit, but some NBA fans look the other way when it happens. Franchises have to realize when you get generational talent, you have to watch the tape of players you want through the season not just July when you sign them to contracts

[@user-wt5lm9kv1q]

Dirk , won without all stars.... Lebron NEVER LEAD A TEAM....

[@charles-cjbox4661]

@@user-wt5lm9kv1qJ-Kidd, Matrix were all-stars but out their primes, I will openly admit Bron played like dogshit in 2011 when the smoke was there to finish it and he didn’t show up

[@user-wt5lm9kv1q]

@@charles-cjbox4661 he quit on his team

[@charles-cjbox4661]

@@user-wt5lm9kv1q he quit how?

[@gokuswanson2037]

​@@user-wt5lm9kv1q LeBron lead every team he has been on. MJ literally quit on his team. Kobe Quit on his team. If you Wana have that energy then be consistent at least

[@dejon18]

That 07 run was very overrated. He didn't play a team with a winning record till the ecf 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@captaincurt396]

Keep in mind this Era of Eastern conference basketball was absolutely dog 💩 😂😂😂

[@Angel_559_]

Yeah, In Bron's rookie season, The Heat went 42-40 and were good enough for the 4th seed

[@captaincurt396]

@@Angel_559_ the 2007 season the cavs went to the finals they beat TWO 41-41 teams lmao

[@Angel_559_]

@@captaincurt396 In 2008, The 9th warriors had a better record than the 4th seed in the East

[@captaincurt396]

@@Angel_559_ ain’t gotta tell me brotha I watched a lot of basketball those years as a youngin (not so much nowadays since it’s garbage) but the West most of my life had been a absolute meat grinder and the East was terrible for a long time

[@yc99official95]

that series against the celtics in 2008 is arguably his weirdest, since he struggled and shot poorly most of the series, but he was putting up impressive scoring volume in the last three games, and in game 7, he stepped up where it mattered most