How The Community Keeps Counter-Strike & Call of Duty Alive

[@Kaceydotme]

Hey all, many have pointed out some audio issues in this video. Some of these were mistakes, some of these were a result of Premiere breaking in several dozen ways during editing and having to go back to an older version on a different device to get it to render at all (which is also why the bitrate is low in places, again, sorry about that.) I didn't notice many of these things when watching on laptop speakers, which is my own fault for not doing my final check with headphones.

[@Ikcatcher]

This is why live service games are kinda depressing, because you know that the servers won’t be up forever and eventually you can no longer play it when the devs turn it off

[@FurroTheWolf]

EA: 👀

[@71bw]

1.6 is and always will be alive. Even if the official server stats don't show it, central Europe and CIS countries will always boost their local playercounts to having hundreds if not thousands of full servers - granted, 99.(9)% of the players are using non-steam (pirated) versions of the game, but they are still there. Most of Polish servers (I don't really know any others tbh, since my local pirated copy came with a list of only Polish servers) currently are either surf+rpg on surf_ski_2 or only de_dust2 servers with parachutes and maybe custom models, adding the obvious stuff like only allowing the bomb to be planted on one bombsite if there's not enough players. They are still thriving, have big forum communities and most of the servers are kind of like a family, where all of the top 100-200 players on the server's ranking know each other. Source wasn't a big game here (barely anybody played it).

[@supertaba10]

I think we could say the same with South America, I will talk for Argentinian and Uruguayan servers there's a lot of server mostly from Argentina but either way there's a lot of people playing at all times, since the game is easy to pirate and I'll run on anything.

[@cannedbeverage7687]

Here in the Balkans CS 1.6 WaRzOnE is a must have for any PC gamer.

[@nabilbudiman271]

sad to say, the average server list on 1.6 usually filled with bunch of bots filling the server to appear the server alive

[@71bw]

@@nabilbudiman271 oh no, definitely not

[@TheCapitalWanderer]

still active as frick in indonesia

[@homura4092]

Hi Kacey! I'm a fan and I am also a staff member of the 2 Call of Duty projects you mentioned and showed - IW4x and Plutonium. I cannot speak on the behalf of the full administration and developers of both projects, but I want to so thank you for covering us in your video, and we try our utmost best to provide an experience for both previous and new players that come to our platforms. In both projects we offer support for other Call of Duty titles. In Plutonium, we also offer support for Black Ops 2 and in IW4x (now known as XLabs), we offer support for Ghosts. Thanks a lot again!

[@Swattii]

Thank you for your work and allowing people to play these older games again!

[@kishi_iv]

7:53 ¨I´m not playing the steam version¨ ¨Team canaima¨ (Canaima is the laptop given to students by the government of venezuela) ¨Me neither¨

[@Axl4325]

Venezuelan here, I have one lmao, the thing barely runs it but it's what most people have available so they master the 20 something fps, thankfully I have a pc that wasn't made with low capacity spare parts

[@AnansiMaxine]

2:04 I love how you casually killed your teammate there

[@Kaceydotme]

listen, if not for that one little detail it would've been an impressive shot.

[@AnansiMaxine]

@@Kaceydotme indeed it would be! it took 2 glances at the clip to notice it was a teamkill :p

[@illusive5829]

@@youngprodigy5824 if you’re talking about the game after the sniper clip it’s called due process. It function similar to csgo, but has randomized maps every week, and a little map destruction like rainbow six siege

[@samuelfreeman5483]

Honestly I've always thought one of the saddest things is when multiplayer games die. The Modern Warfare games, Day of Defeat, the old Counter Strikes, Team Fortress Classic, Quake 2. Sucks you can't really play them anymore.

[@hossel_]

Audio was pretty jumpy when talking about Counter-Strike, but other than that great video, as always. Thank you Kacey

[@Brownd55]

South America at large hardly abandoned 1.6 till CSGO went F2P

[@Axl4325]

And still, a lot of people can't run csgo anyways so a lot of people stick with 1.6

[@ShreN_]

2 corrections: CS:Source did have a competitive scene, which caused a lot of friction between players from both 1.6 and Source. Infinity Ward devs said publicly on a forum that they are fine with fov changers and would not actively try to ban their use. This was around MW3 launch time I think, and fov changers that didn't trigger the anticheat had been long used. A bit late sure, but it was something. The map DLC on MW2 PC in 2020 is broken, purchasing it will only let you lobby with other DLC owners, essentially removing your ability to find a game.

[@boldlygoingnowhere366]

Preserving... our childhood.

[@d.ryan96]

The best way to preserve and relive the OG experience in older games is ye olde LAN party or dedicated group of friends. Bot support is also nice i guess.

[@junkcodes]

every online multiplayer game should get bot and LAN support. even after they turn the official servers off, you should still be able to play offline either with your friends or with bots by yourself.

[@elongatedborzoi1160]

"bot support is nice i guess" thats an understatement

[@aviationbutterr]

I keep forgetting how small this channel is. It feels like a 1M Channel. Such high quality

[@lord_vwphaeton1883]

This guy and Raycevick are my 2 favourite videogame youtubers! Says a lot about them when they can take a game I've never played and still get me to care (I haven't played a single CoD game before except for CoD mobile) and hang on to EVERY word they say! Dude, what's your opinion on Halo 4s and Halo 5s multiplayer?

[@strikerecho2592]

Not gonna lie when I came across Raycevick years back, his videos got me into analysis videos about video games. And now with Kacey as well, it’s only gotten better

[@lord_vwphaeton1883]

@@strikerecho2592 I know right? BOTH if their analysis videos are the best.

[@strikerecho2592]

@@lord_vwphaeton1883 They are just magical.

[@mozambiquehere5903]

Ahoy is another good one too

[@strikerecho2592]

@@mozambiquehere5903 Oh shit, I forgot about him. I remember watching his Iconic arms and Nuclear Fruit vids during my last two years of high school.

[@OlsunEdits]

I played mw3 on xbox 360 throughly my childhood. It was my first cod game and there wasnt really crouch games. But the most popular game mode was Infected custom lobby. Everyone would invite random players on xbox 360 to join the custom lobies. No more throwing knives and terminal 24/7. Such fun memories

[@Zomothy]

Thank you for kind of giving some publicity to IW4x and the Plutonium Project. The community really appreciates it

[@Kaceydotme]

absolutely. preservation like this deserves to be signal boosted.

[@LibraScope]

I really miss playing Gun Game on Black Ops 2. It was definitely the mode I was the best at across the series. It was extremely rare that I got into a game that I didn't at least get top three in, but most games saw me win. It was a rare time where I felt like I was in control of my success in a multiplayer game. Also, Infinite Warfare is best Call of Duty! *runs away*

[@OmairArif]

The MW3 player numbers might be inaccurate. I've found that at some point in the past few years Steam has started to think I launched MW3 when I play COD4, and I don't even own MW3 on PC.

[@ananastudio]

I've been playing Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare's online matchmaking on Xbox through backward compatibility recently and it really do feel like you have traveled back in 2007. Playing those games feels like being somewhere where time has never been able to continue. Good times.

[@nc2827]

Keep it up Kacey! I've been enjoying MW2 on IW4X a lot recently, just wish people were into other maps besides Nuketown and Terminal lol.

[@hedgeearthridge6807]

I used to love MW3, it's a big part of my childhood. Last year I got it on PC and played the multiplayer. It was an amazing nostalgia trip, but unplayable because EVERYONE was hacking. Walhacks being the most common. It's not just a game of who can out-hack the other hackers. And since there's no bots, it's the only way to re-live the game, to deal with hackers. RIP MW3, you were a good one

[@annadelsiena]

Nice to see you talk about CoD's terrible releases post MW1! MW3 was always my favorite with it's weapons and sandbox, but every time I play it, I struggle to find a lobby that doesn't have at least 1 hacker in it, either blatant or trying to hide their wallhacks. It's a shame Activision drains their devs so much

[@therealthirst8099]

For those curious, here are the PC alternatives to paying for some the games on Steam at their ridiculous prices MW2 -> IW4X BO2 -> Plutonium MW3 -> IW5 Ghosts -> IW6X All these are free for people to download and play. And they give you infinitely better experiences than anything you can get by getting the retail versions.

[@mobymobymobymoby]

It's funny how every video I watch that mentions CS:S talks about how its the black sheep of the series, meanwhile, it's the shooter that got me into shooters and I still have a weird fascination with it to this day. My shitty HP computer couldn't run the vanilla maps, so I had to play on modded maps with less textures. I would play DM, Gun Game and Zombie Survival all day. It's funny how I never realized I was playing only modded matches even back then. Even now when I play from time to time it's on a 24/7 Office Deathmatch server.

[@kallum39]

The intro made me question if I wasn’t watching Raycevick for one sec there

[@SkoinksX]

Hey mate! Great video as always but I have one small technical nitpick: There's very wild volume differences where you've cut and edited the video. Might be worth going over the audio channels in Audacity and normalizing the volume (a mild limiter works well too) to ensure consistency between takes.

[@Kaceydotme]

I did try normalizing in premiere but I had all manner of technical problems while editing this, which is why it came out a day late. Have been having a much easier time with audio recently, this one just kinda kicked my ass and the problems were minor enough that I felt they weren't worth fighting with premiere over. Thanks for the suggestions though, they will likely make multiple takes easier in the future.

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

Just wanna say, if you want your game to survive the test of time, just do two basic things: 1. Mod support 2. Bots

[@Kaceydotme]

I agree on bots but with the caveat that they aren't a true replacement for human players in most shooters.

[@tadeustad]

That, and the fact of being actively patched due to the opening of source code is what keeps Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory considerably alive and well after 17 years :)

[@Kaceydotme]

@@tadeustad that’s actually a game I wanted to play for this video but didn’t get time for

[@toshineon]

Agree on that. One of the things that still keeps Battlefield 2 permanently on my computer.

[@dopey473]

Oddly enough pirated 1.6 launchers have the most vanilla servers out there at least here in Balkan countries. Edit: love the use of Max Payne 3 soundtrack in the credits!

[@mobymobymobymoby]

And holy fuck my heart skipped a beat when you showed BlackLight: Tango Down for a second. I fucking loved that game on XBA

[@NoobPlayAustria]

wow. What a great video! It always felt like games have a second life cycle. The whole MW2 client thing is so awesome. I've been there too and I'm still so impressed about what those people created out of this game. It always was so underground.

[@soDaforty4]

Breach! Bro you had to bring that up. My dude you know the real deal. I had immense fun playing this game. What was it like 1 month and it died. I was so sad when i couldnt play anymore. I still see people talking shit about this game. I will never understand why the same basic gameplay is ok for some game but not ok for others.

[@Pyro-Moloch]

I had the impression that CS 1.5 was more popular than 1.6. I clearly remember when 1.6 came out and everybody complained about the shields, which were way OP and disbalanced the game. Most people I knew at the time stuck to 1.5 until Source came out.

[@Pyro-Moloch]

@@AnonymousGentooman perhaps "counter-strike 1" would be a good way to say it

[@PlutoniumProject]

[@Spooks_FGC]

Bro mans talkin bout cod while using persona music. Some of my fav game series. Also great video.

[@hippokrampus2838]

You mentioned Halo at one point, but missed something that could definitely have helped your point. YEARS after Halo CE had last been updated a Bungie employee or two went back and updated it to 1.10 because Gamespy had shut down and they wanted to let people still be able to play! Not to mention Custom Edition was literally a modders paradise that is still active today (see Cursed Halo).

[@Kaceydotme]

Completely forgot about the Gamespy revival for Halo, but I wanted to focus on games that were kept alive by the community rather than the devs directly. That's a whole other topic I want to explore some other time and Halo PC will definitely be something to talk about in that video.

[@hippokrampus2838]

@@Kaceydotme Ah! In that case I look forward to it! I’ve been watching your content for a bit now and love it, keep it up!

[@TheGreatMcPain]

They also fixed the rendering for Active Camo on nvidia cards and added 4K support through the settings menu (before 1.10 you needed to use a launch parameter to even get resolutions like 1920x1080). There's 14-ish things listed in the changelog.

[@beseakos]

The unofficial - and not so legal - clients for MW2 and Black Ops and MW3 were more popular on PC at one point than the original steam version. I remember meeting so many people on that specific version of MW2 and becoming IRL friends with them or carrying on to other games too with these people. Ironically I got to know one of my oldest passion games through it. Specifically Dota.

[@FranciscoFJM]

Oh man i miss BO2 so much and i didnt even know there was a IW4x equivalent to it! I´ll give it a try one of these days

[@axing_]

I'm one of the people that sit on that hzrd sniping server in black ops and I've been for years, I got the game late 2010 and ignoring a 2 year break somewhere in the middle, I'm still playing it regularly. This year I've finally expanded, got into COD4 properly this time, tried custom clients for MW2, MW3 and BO2 and all thanks to Warzone launching. But it's not the battle royale gameplay that did it's magic, it's the occasional MW2019 free multiplayer weekends that occured. Extremely fast paced combat on Shoothouse felt incredibly satisfying getting me hooked right away and Shipment in particular reminded me of the time I played a cracked pirated version of COD4 years and years ago. But MW2019 was and is expensive and my PC until recently didn't run it that well, so naturally I tried older stuff which reignited my love for COD over all and eventually made me upgrade my PC and purchase MW2019.

[@eraser400]

Great video, man. I’m really loving your content! You’re bringing me back to my childhood/teen days, and addressing the issues that I found back then as well!

[@haryman222]

Excellent video. I was hoping you'd bring up AlterIWNet. I didn't discover the modding scene until a few years later with FourDeltaOne, but I sank so many hours into those games because of those mods. Thanks for the nostalgia trip

[@Thehackerguy2000]

I know it’s wrong but I’m ok with bullying people who play crouch only servers.

[@xZeroGrxvity]

I can understand the wallbang ban on nuketown, because you can shoot through almost everything and shoot directly into spawn points through the houses (garages)

[@Axl4325]

I grew up with MW2 and 3 hype but didn't have a ps3, pc or permission from my parents to play it. Now that I have a pc I got MW3 and there's a maximum of 40 people playing at the same time spread across 35 servers lmao, still have a match or two every once in a while, but I wish I could have lived that time at it's fullest

[@adderallzx6713]

MW2 and 3 as well as Bo2 and Ghosts are mainly played using the third party clients like iw4x, iw6x, Plutonium T6 and IW5 literally the only way I can get in a Bo2 match on pc is thru T6 and I got a few friends into MW2 by showing them iw4x.

[@SoTiredZzZ]

Hey Kacey, noticed the audio starting getting softer at the 8:43 mark which lasts until 8:50 as well from 16:09 to 16:20 . Also, the audio from 9:07 until 9:12 is louder than usual.

[@k0npaz]

Hey! I don't know where you live, but here in Europe (Balkans specifically) we have a lot of 1.6 vanilla servers and there is even a FaceIT knockoff (with around 1000 players playing) for 1.6.

[@Kaceydotme]

I've seen scrim servers but wasn't able to figure out how to get into them due to language barriers. I'd love to hear more about this though.

[@k0npaz]

@@Kaceydotme Language barrier is not a problem in FASTCUP (the knockoff name) because almost noone has a local competitive scene (probably except Turkey) and everyone plays internationally, so it's pretty much a requirement to know english.

[@k0npaz]

@@Kaceydotme FASTCUP is basically the saviour for competitive CS 1.6 tryhards. It promotes itself (automaticly sort of, i don't know the intentions of the developers) by basically filling the steam server selection with it's hosted servers. On FASTCUP you can either play Matchmaking based on an ELO system and you can also pick the regions you want to play. You can also host aim_maps and FASTCUP also has a handful of deathmatch servers. People also stream FASTCUP with decent viewership.

[@k0npaz]

They also have an anticheat, but it's a pain in the ass to get it to work for me atleast

[@EclipseGaming121]

The last time I played mw3 on pc was Tekno mw3 and from what I’ve seen the population on there was still active a lot of fun to play there were servers that still kept the vanilla experience and you would hardly run into modders

[@Axl4325]

I got it recently and it's nice, not super active but it gets the job done. There's always like 40 people active at a time spread across multiple servers, and there's always 1 full death match server where you get the full experience

[@OveRaDaMaNt]

God, I love valve. Sad about Cod's treatment though (although I haven't touched a cod game since blops 2)

[@Karss]

BO2 has a add on called plutonium which has a server browser and 1000’s of players

[@IIUzzymanII]

Beautifully done video man. I spent many all nighters on CS 1.6.

[@SteffyCush]

good vid, the retrospective style was a nice surprise :)

[@antenna_prolly]

What I really need are _PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale_ and _Mobius Final Fantasy_ accessible again.

[@Father_Omar]

The problem with Activision is they release a new cod every year. They support the new one until the next release and throw the old one in the trash. One example is modern warfare and cold war. Cold war took gunsmith, warzone ,operators and the battle pass from modern warfare and then put modern warfare in the back of the room. Cold war sucked all the blood out of modern warfare. Both games got connected and cold war took over modern warfare.

[@Axl4325]

Which is sad because MW was great, also personal opinion but I hate the cold war setting, I'm a man of modern conflicts and Picatinny rails

[@Father_Omar]

@@Axl4325 Y E S

[@revolverocelot3741]

The music already brings back memories. BF3, my first MP Shooter..

[@toshineon]

Used to stay up many many late nights playing that with friends during my early 20's. Some of my favorite gaming memories.

[@ToodlTonke212]

Yooo I don't think I've seen any other KZbinr I watch ever mention Breach, only ever played a few rounds of it years ago but it was fun

[@SummonerArthur]

cod mw 3 on wii is an exception to your cod theory, since they kept the official servers running and are still running AFAIK, which makes it the only way to play it online on a console without paying extra for online.

[@udeadinaflash]

You can play it on ps3 without paying for online though

[@SummonerArthur]

@@udeadinaflash you can? I thought they had shut the servers down

[@mellowmelly9258]

unrelated but i appreciate the "theydies and gentlethems" :)

[@cocodanuts3497]

6:13 did the math. His hours equal 385 days of playtime.

[@suhandatanker]

5 likes? You're too underrated man, you did the math then not get noticed, you should at least have 100 likes.

[@Shpuld]

was that some PARIAH I saw there?? man I want to replay that game, really enjoyed it back in the day

[@Kaceydotme]

sure was! Ive only ever played a splitscreen for a little bit.

[@Shpuld]

@@Kaceydotme I remember playing the demo, liking it so much as a dumbass kid that I went to buy it from a bargain bin and enjoyed the simple campaign. funny enough my friend had it on xbox and I was quite jealous of the map editor feature

[@Shpuld]

update: replayed it recently, it's terrible, don't play it

[@3lectronX]

God you started talking about cod servers banning wallbangs and stuff and it reminded me of the Battlefield servers where they'd kick for ramming using rpgs on heli's and using shotguns. That used to piss me off so much.

[@Katja_v2]

I got a VAC ban for an FOV changer. At least IW4x exists.

[@theoldschoolgamer6199]

Found the assault server in 1.6 that you were talking about and it's truly great! Finally a solid 1.6 experience!

[@fran92mj71]

Many games struggle to maintain an steady playerbase, some of them should add an offline mode; in this case I really like the MW 2019 mixed bots, this simulate the feel of new and veterans human players in a server, some of them are really dumb others truly ruthless

[@ricoanderson6626]

I jump in to MGS Peace Walker from time to time and still get into online missions... Cant say the same for the competitive multiplayer tho.

[@danielgusarov2020]

I never had too much of an issue to find a vanilla server in 1.6 personally.

[@djangocartier571]

Siege is on its six years now. Would love to see a video from you about

[@twolkette6984]

0:50 were you on an argentinian CSS server? haha, nice video man. Keep it up

[@haze5657]

Honestly, There is still a thriving community of counter strike source consisting of players from India, Russia, Philippines, Indonesia, Pakistan, And the United States. There are a ton of servers and players available at any time, There are B-Hop servers, Modded servers with double jumps and many other new modes, Honestly I think that it's better than CSGO, Most of us play on non-steam versions of CSS called ClientMod. And also 1.6 will never die, It has way more servers than CSS in 2021, More modes, mods, Skins and other player made stuff.

[@esaevium654]

How to make your game hard to die 1 Use browser server 2 DONT SHUT DOWN ONLINE LIKE 3 Mod 4 3rd party support like gameranger etc

[@ItachiUchiha-sj9ob]

so for black ops 2 and mw3 platonium versionnof the games are pretty full all dlc and everything

[@DogZy9]

Interesting video. But I was hoping you’d cover COD4 PC promod scene. Too big and important to pass it up.

[@udeadinaflash]

Anyone here still play these call of duty games on PS3? I do. And honestly can for the most part find game lobbies on black ops and modern warfare 2 and 3. If you really want to find people just look to zombies

[@Buglin_Burger7878]

The reason CoD has the strict rules... is because of how exploitable they are. No Wall Bang Nuketown: Given you can use hard cover (No wallbang) to FIRE INTO THE HOUSE or FIRE FROM HOUSE INTO SPAWN and it is ALWAYS NUKETOWN you'd expect people to know... where the spawns and doors are through walls... and just do that. It has to be done to keep it in check otherwise it just becomes LMG or Extended Mags land. MW3 Crouch Only: Due to footstep audio being busted, especially with Sitrep being the best anti-equipment option, it gave the most options with the least restrictions. Footstep audio discourages moving... something you praised counterstrike for encouraging movement over camping. I still remember that time someone heard me from I want to say about 25-30 meters away... this isn't exactly fun when no one can move and every gun fight is head to head... or someone camping in great cover pre-firing you because you know your exact location. This creates a lot of limitations as to move you need fast aiming AND killing guns. (Typically an OP weapon) while someone will camp with a more OP weapon. (Run a sniper or shotgun as a camper and it becomes virtually impossible without another one.) To have any control or option you have to remove the noise otherwise the game becomes a simple strict meta like if Nuketown didn't have anti-wallbang rules.

[@OfficialTygo]

I'm so hyped

[@lord_vwphaeton1883]

Heck yeah!

[@Batman-rc1yg]

With mw3 and bo2, people play on something called plutonium

[@FunnyLariat]

Theydies and Gentlethems. ENBY GANG REPRESENT

[@JaCKal_646f67]

One word Nostalgia

[@dezolatestation]

I'm still playing 1.6 until I got a decent rig/or my local server has gone, but there's still had a bunch of server still alive lol even in 2021,

[@saisundernarous9137]

I saw rainbow, up there some people want tactical without having a brain aneurism from sheer rage

[@GIUDY11]

Man you should check Plutonium. Custom servers for MW3 and BO2 that are waaaaay more populated than the oficial ones. Specially Black ops 2

[@Kaceydotme]

Did you finish the video? Lol

[@faroos9860]

TF2 to CS:GO : *I Raised that Boy*

[@randompersonasdf]

9:10 ayy my man plays zombie escape

[@scottjs5207]

I stopped playing MW3(PS3) a year and half back because an A-hole made me 21st prestige and removed any ability to still grind challenges to get a nostalgia kick from the complete sounds... Since then the Dom player base pretty much died.

[@unfathomable3434]

Yeah I was part of the condition zero 400

[@iDuLicious]

You should follow-up and contrast this ideal with the Halo series. If Halo stuck to what Counter-Strike did and kept core mechanics, the game wouldn't have fallen off as hard as it did.

[@Stefix666]

My guy just forgot about the huge modding communities of waw and bo3

[@cabooseNorris]

"ladies and gentle-thems" BASEDD

[@izzyhope58]

I know this is probably an unpopular opinion. But I almost ALWAYS play CoD and CS Go with bots. So there could be zero players and still play exactly how I want, with my map and rules. Idk why but I REALLY enjoy playing with bots and Im not sure why so many people despise playing with bots when I find it to be a better experience than playing with real people

[@bannanafruitsalad]

Oh my god, 1.6 came out in 2000?

[@mrdoubleyew6340]

This looks promising

[@lord_vwphaeton1883]

It's Kacey. Always good content!

[@J_C_CH]

13:47 But I'm fairly sure that if a grenade landed next to a real soldier's feet, he'd tactically run the fuck away from it 😂😂

[@Raptorking18]

16:17 Killhouse (MW2019) in MW2 2009?😂

[@RahulRoy-vq1gn]

At times your voice is speed up so much that is feels weird. This is a interesting problem to fix during editing.

[@Kaceydotme]

this is how i talk. it's not sped up.

[@nattila7713]

@@Kaceydotme cant recall if you talked like this back in the fordracing reviews ;) its hard to understand you as a non native english person but I only recently noticed it :))

[@imbored3289]

The Eminem of the video game industry

[@Jawd14]

I've prestiged twice in MW2 w/ modded servers. Yes there are some points where this is less enjoyable due to cheaters, but compared to BO2, there are far fewer hackers, and those that are there are clearly unpopular

[@MorningstarJinn]

as much as i like iw4x, plutonium etc. the playercount is usually not even 100 in most games.

[@luigistyle_]

Plutonium has an average concurrent playercount between all their games of around 700-1000. Even their least popular game, MW3, still has atleast 2 full servers worth of people on at all times.

[@DamirMaatar]

I dont usually play old gqmes anymore because there is 2 types of people on it The noob like me, who discover And the old players, who already grinded the game So i get destroyed and quit

[@bussyplatter8317]

Is that Pariah I spot at 10:09?

[@SkinnyFG]

12:58 how ironic can it get. You don’t like that these cod servers have specific rules but are okay with the cs 1.6 specific map rules?

[@Kaceydotme]

The CS rules are minor changes to balance the map. The CoD rules ruin the core gameplay. Relax. You’ve not discovered a lapse in journalistic ethics.

[@RansomMoney58]

Can't wait for this To people reading this, this was posted before it premiered.

[@catb0mb]

it's funny because i can't say this is the case on consoles, but bo4 is completely dead, at least in terms of modes that arn't tdm and blackout. what was meant to replace the campaign for bo4 is completely dead, and you can only view it's graveyard of a map only through custom games. maybe that's for the better though lol.