The guy who design the Wu Tang logo deserves so, SO much more. That logo is as iconic as the Batman symbol, and infinitely cooler
@luckylex123 жыл бұрын
His name is Mathematics, he is the original DJ!
@cjenkinsiv3 жыл бұрын
Facts FR.
@nnzrsinanovic27723 жыл бұрын
It cost400 $ LOL and become legend Logo
@About_a_Bag3 жыл бұрын
Mathematics got jerked
@Alanaboo9123 жыл бұрын
@@About_a_Bag at the time he thought it was a good deal
@GabeD20023 жыл бұрын
I met RZA in 1996 at my job and talked to him. Without giving me details of his issues, he told me the music business sucks and it always takes from you more than you take from it. He mentioned trying the film industry at the time and I see he is mildly successful at it. Nice guy. He is the glue that’s held any bit of the group together all this time.
@gang60093 жыл бұрын
I watched a doc they said RZA had a plan they were all following. The Abbott is a genius
@godforreal73553 жыл бұрын
@@gang6009 "We form like Voltron and he's the head."
@vagabond41133 жыл бұрын
Mildly successful in the film industry is an understatement. He scored Blade, Kill Bill, Ghost Dog, Afro Samurai and a few others. He directed a film with A-list stars in and is bringing out another film which looks great btw. RZA does whatever he sets his mind to. I envy you because you actually got to meet him!
@frankdaniels25183 жыл бұрын
@@vagabond4113 Cant forget he was in American Gangsta also
@vagabond41133 жыл бұрын
@@frankdaniels2518 can't forget ol' Moses Jones
@mzzah063 жыл бұрын
bruh rza deserves whatever more he got than everyone else. hes the only one that believed and had that vision. he had the discipline to stay on track, to try and keep everyone on track. He really was looking out for everyone. with out rza who wouldve put in the work to give each one of them the sound they wanted, the sound they rocked with. he knew them best.
@dinerocambridge8526 Жыл бұрын
Na he should’ve spilt everything down the middle with his brothers
@DARRENTINOnz Жыл бұрын
Lmaoooo sounds like you've just watched an American saga😆
@mzzah06 Жыл бұрын
@@DARRENTINOnz lmaoo nahh broo he talks about it in his interviews
@luckylefty914 Жыл бұрын
Rza was definitely the visionary and deserving ample amounts of credit and respect and is one of the greatest ever but if u think he was perfect on the business side u wildin
@each1teach1academy43 Жыл бұрын
Creators and owners always make the most
@LifeofKairo3 жыл бұрын
It still blows my mind that some of the independent artists I work with (running their digital marketing and merch sales) make way more money than many label artists. Indie for the win!
@TheTenCentStory3 жыл бұрын
it be like that
@SpencerCornelia3 жыл бұрын
Not surprised. All the A list stars make money but there's a reason why a lot of artists are still touring years after their last album
@LifeofKairo3 жыл бұрын
@@legomego123 artists are becoming more savvy for sure though thankfully 😃
@MB-nb7yq3 жыл бұрын
I found a video where YG said he made $0 from one of his albums. Meg the stallion made $15k from one of her albums even though she sold a lot of copies. Makes me wonder if all this flexing is worth it. So sad.
@LifeofKairo3 жыл бұрын
@@MB-nb7yq it’s hectic. I used to think that getting signed was the only way to be a professional musician but thankfully that’s not the case
@djdubuque33693 жыл бұрын
There's 9 members in Wu-Tang Clan. RZA, GZA, ODB, Ghostface, Method Man, U-God, Inspectah, Masta Killa, and Raekwon. And then Cappadonna is member #10.
@kenyettaready3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kenyettaready3 жыл бұрын
Would you consider RedMan an affiliation? Of the group?
@highroller79593 жыл бұрын
Red man and mathematics too
@Rakeemgrant3 жыл бұрын
Killa Priest is highly ranked up there too
@brownin3293 жыл бұрын
Redman and mathematics are affiliated not official members. Killah priest I am not so sure.
@Rallarberg3 жыл бұрын
The fact that RZA got Loud to allow individuals to sign their own deals elsewhere is nothing less than mindblowing. Be that in 1991 or in 2021. Back in 2012, a local festival here in Norway booked half of Wu-Tang ("Wu Legends"), but the festival went bankrupt after the festival manager and the Wu-Tang promoter got scammed before the festival could kick off. Raekwon and GZA still came to town and did a show at a music bar owned by the festival manager, with a 500ish capacity, and boy they pulled off a hell of a show. Mad props.
@verbalkint34473 жыл бұрын
I love the Wu but like all things of creation, they have their peaks, they have their valleys. They had their creative pinnacle. Most likely when they were unified in their hunger in the chase. With success and acclaim comes division, envy, and splinter. Take the Wu Tang for what they were. An incredible hip hop collection who’s time in the sun shone brighter than most. Peace
@chuco915C3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@NickTheTowelGuy-iy3op3 жыл бұрын
Man, they still go hard.
@marekatebakang76693 жыл бұрын
I am proud to be a fan of the Wu... The issues they have it is all family...
@chillhomie7 Жыл бұрын
They’ve done better than everyone else at staying together
@verbalkint3447 Жыл бұрын
@@chillhomie7 Depends on who or what “everyone else” you’re talking about. Wu Tang just has too many different personalities and egos to think that there’s never going to be friction between one another. The universal truth brings them back. The almighty dollar
@investinstyle-financeinves11813 жыл бұрын
A music group is only as good as the collective energies of its members. Once individual members begin to pursue their own paths, the group will have a much harder time staying together.
@sandraruiz38343 жыл бұрын
The one group that comes to mind is the Heiroglyphics they solid since the early 90s
@soakedbearrd3 жыл бұрын
Voltron.
@alexyoung15313 жыл бұрын
@dj qb nobody can escape the 8020 principle
@vizionaryentertainment84643 жыл бұрын
I remember a few years back when I first discovered the Wu Tang clan asking myself if there are 10 members how the fuck are they splitting the checks 10 ways?
@danielle3577 Жыл бұрын
@@vizionaryentertainment8464 I was thinking the same shit. You making as much as one hit rapper, but splitting that many ways.
@lee26763 жыл бұрын
Without RZA, there's no Wu Tang. You need the genius mindset and visionary at the head. He was always going to get the bigger of the money because not only was he the producer but he was the visionary who cut most of these deals. The good part is that their still together and there all eating till this day so they made it thru the storms.
@derrickanthony64273 жыл бұрын
Check the groups net worth look at the names, most of em make 8 figures
@shannonballard22513 жыл бұрын
Everybody wants equal cut of the money, but doesn’t want to do equal work
@michaelkelley47083 жыл бұрын
MY SEEDS MARRY HIS SEEDS, GROW WITH HIS SEEDS, THATS HOW WE KEEP WU-TANG MONEY IN THE FAMILY
@michaelkelley47083 жыл бұрын
They never made radio music anyways. Who the fxxx you kiddin? Can you see Rae and Ghost sidestepping with Justin Timberlake? Nah
@hughman13562 жыл бұрын
RIP to ODB they ain't still with us man .
@apap71703 жыл бұрын
Wu-Tang first rap group to have their own video game, made kung fu movies popular again, started their own clothing line and here came Diddy biting off of them.
@RebornThaRebizzle3 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@ceauxxcolore4018 Жыл бұрын
Right! That’s why it’s forever F*** Diddy! Never fw that cat
@kihyu21319 ай бұрын
@@ceauxxcolore4018 this aged well
@leoalphaproductions86423 жыл бұрын
Music and business don’t mix. You add money to art and it becomes dirty and rigid, it becomes a chore where you’re busier chasing the $$$ than you are in exploring your artistic freedom and experimentation. Everything has its time and place. Business is business, and art is art.
@SpencerCornelia3 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%
@berto21743 жыл бұрын
thank you i needed to see that. bless
@dr.phylisphical92943 жыл бұрын
Fr quality last forever.
@Rakeemgrant3 жыл бұрын
This comment read like bars
@prodbytytaan3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@NKB_POE3 жыл бұрын
if RZA is not the leader Wu won't survive,imagine how to balance a that amount of people,RZA def deserve more shares
@blackhistoryonsteroids81963 жыл бұрын
He was the brain.
@SuperObjector3 жыл бұрын
Oversized egos have killed so many of our talents. Sometimes admitting that someone is better than you is not a fault but being jealous and criticizing that person to no end, is a fault. We rarely have good emulation among us, only jealousy and lawsuits over money …a damn shame
@manwiththeplan413010 ай бұрын
Wu tang manual
@ghostpodgameing3 жыл бұрын
They was speaking facts when they said Cash rules everything around me 😔
@davidsamuels7773 жыл бұрын
True, f the ways of the world
@YoungYahtz943 жыл бұрын
Dollar dollar bill yall.
@misterbee663 жыл бұрын
It is the love of money that is the root of all evil.
@TakBonez2 жыл бұрын
C.R.E.A.M., Get the money
@TheRagnarok50003 жыл бұрын
The fact is RZA was and always will be the heart and soul of the group. He’s the driving force behind what Wu Tang is. He got busy and got interested and involved with a lot of other shit, primarily Hollywood shit and affiliated acts. He didn’t have enough time, energy, and motivation to keep holding shit together. Once his presence as the glue through production and direction started slipping the effects were apparent. Not taking anything from Mathematics, 4th Disciple, Arabian Knight, etc. but RZA had the formula. People downplay the significance of when Deck lost what probably would have been a masterpiece in the flood of RZA’s studio. They all say that album would have been Liquid Swords level in the group pantheon. I believe if Decks album as intended would have released earlier the dynamic of the group would have been different and maybe things wouldn’t have degraded as fast or in the manner they did.
@MetaphysicalShaMan2 жыл бұрын
They started using math and them becuz rza got Hollywood and his beats became traaaaashhhh. Rza changed as a person as dide every person affiliated with the group. They started in their early 20s if not 18 19 ppl grow up and change a mature differently. Rza mind was in a whole new space by the time 8 diagrams came out. I remeber 8 diagrams being sooooo butt cheeks on the beats and remember all the members sound like they didn't wanna be on the track. Next thing u know raewkon drops shaolin vs wutang u god writes a book gza disappears and becomes a college professor meth became a full time actor like EVERYBODY was sick of each other (still love) by 8 diagrams and that 1 press album was suppose to be the makeup for that trash 8 diagrams album then all that drama happened with that album... members at first wasnt liking the idea of the once upon a time in shaolin becyz it was the first album they did together in years where every body was in good spirits and happy to rap with each other and it does get to be released which then bothered members...
@EWUFBIiswatching3 жыл бұрын
This is why I love the way artists have used the internet for their music. These dudes are selling like 4K-6k albums, but getting streams and views that make them millionaires without having to hand that money to a label.
@Ceeceerice3 жыл бұрын
Well. They didn’t have that privilege back then.
@CMonty3 жыл бұрын
No artist is making millions from streams. Music streaming services pay worse than record labels.
@187onasimp3 жыл бұрын
What fantasy world does this happen in?
@loco323rhythm Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that ain’t happening unfortunately.
@miguelchavez2048 Жыл бұрын
You obviously don’t know how things work.
@Dashi263 жыл бұрын
It's so crazy on how successful these guys are/were. Got to figure, 7-10 of these guys sold Gold or better, no group has ever, ever done that!
@pmorton79603 жыл бұрын
That first EP was on HEAVY rotation on the bus ride to school back in 93'...Wu is forever...
@dimadobrik4516 Жыл бұрын
Back then from 93 to infinity
@salt_gawd3 жыл бұрын
thanks for summarizing up the documentary.
@michaelnewton13323 жыл бұрын
"The music business is a long and shallow money trench, a narrow, plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson couldn't make it any clearer!!
@jamesdragonforce3 жыл бұрын
Really true for the greater Commodification of Arts business, otherwise known as “entertainment” business, or capitalism if you will.
@unwashedheathen48973 жыл бұрын
Bro you're killing it with these.
@KtotheG3 жыл бұрын
Wu Tang needs a 2 hour long feature film biopic. I've been waiting for it.
@TakBonez2 жыл бұрын
Does a whole ass TV Series count? Arguably I'd say the TV Series was a much better choice then a Film/Biopic. Cuz it's already out. Wu-Tang: An American Saga.
@shenanitims40063 жыл бұрын
“They’ll always be a ‘what if?’” Uh, they WERE the biggest thing in music. There’s no “what if?” applicable. They dominated in the 90s. Most bands can’t keep touring after 30 years, let alone being the equivalent of 2 bands (8 members) plus however many side members.
@bbodsblue113 жыл бұрын
I think he means what if they had kept it together from the point of the Hot97 show, I mean that looks like a key point where things started falling apart.... no radio play for 10 years??? In an era where the internet was just a baby.... lol that''s a killer for anyone.... sometimes the money is able to patch over the cracks, if they had gone back on that tour and not ruined their relationship w the number 1 hip-hop station in their hometown there's no doubt they'd have been wayyyy bigger. I think that's the "what if?"... they are definitely legends I agree, but one wonders what if they were able to hold it together.....
@shenanitims40063 жыл бұрын
@@bbodsblue11 I think losing Hot97s’ support obviously hurt, but wouldn’t have stopped the inevitable. Their slow decline out of relevance would’ve just been more apparent. Things were already crumbling. They were all pissed about their varying financial success rates, and Hot97 had nothing to do with also pulling out of the Rage... tour which further hurt them by taking them out of the eyes of the biggest market: rebellious white kids. The writing was on the wall, if Hot97 was successful it would’ve just made it harder to read.
@bbodsblue113 жыл бұрын
@@shenanitims4006 I think you're underestimating how big radio is..... no radio play for 10 years literally means there is a whole generation of kids who don't know wu-tang.... maybe other stations played their music in NY but hot97 was the premier station by a mile and maybe the radio play would have boosted their album sales in an era when they were no longer the new guys and their careers were maturing.... and i know the rage tour had nothing to do w them ruining their hot97 relationship im just saying if they didn't sour both events the their 3rd and 4th albums definitely would have been bigger which might have kept the group together a bit longer despite the undeniable cracks
@shenanitims40063 жыл бұрын
@@bbodsblue11 I don't know, I didn't live in the NY area at the time, but I imagine a lack of previous Hot97 airplay might be why Ghost was so annoyed.
@bbodsblue113 жыл бұрын
@@shenanitims4006 I just watched the full dou-series, they said after hot 97 stopped playing them other radio stations followed suit.... that is a straight killer... ghost said he was annoyed bcos hot97 strong armed them into performing... they were getting paid on the rage tour (even though it wasn't that much & performing to bigger audiences) and back then hot97 wasn't paying artists to perform at that concert so they had literally paid out of their own pocket to fly to NY to then perform for free.... I see why Ghost was pissed.... they also acknowledged that their radio ban affected their sales and relevance
@dogsandyoga17433 жыл бұрын
00:34 "there's no tighter knit family in hop hop" Hieroglyphics: "Am I a joke to you?"
@wyzellwashington91243 жыл бұрын
Enter Boot Camp Clik lol
@TallicaMan19863 жыл бұрын
I only ever hear of Deltron. None of those other guys.
@dogsandyoga17433 жыл бұрын
@@TallicaMan1986 They have a bunch of albums and spinoff projects. Also, they do (before covid) a HeiroDay music festival every year. The point being, they have never been known to have a falling out or beef in 30 years in the game.
@ecliptic133 жыл бұрын
Hieroglyphics are the most slept on group ever 💯
@About_a_Bag3 жыл бұрын
The Lox got that title
@spunkyj9642 Жыл бұрын
Great video till the end They were and still are the biggest rap group in history They paved the way for so many after them
@dominiquejones38053 жыл бұрын
The mistrust with Divine was what started the divide then RZA let Cilvaringz take advantage of his brothers
@badgerden70803 жыл бұрын
The Wu-Tang Clan came out at a time when east coast hip hop was floundering as Dr. Dre, Ice Cube and other west coast rappers were becoming prominent. They helped the east coast hip hop regain it's popularity.
@wandererkenshin75573 жыл бұрын
Wu Tang Clan Enter The Wu Tang saved East Coast Hip Hop.
@ryandixon76042 жыл бұрын
Yeah along with Biggie and Nas
@devantewilliams7240 Жыл бұрын
Selective memory huh , biggie saved east coast rap
@stanleyfranks9891 Жыл бұрын
@@ryandixon7604 And... Big Pun... and Mobb Deep... and Jay Z... and Busta... And DMX but yea lol
@chrisstoecker71893 жыл бұрын
For RZA's net worth to be under 20 million is mind boggling. 30 years later you'd think it would be a helluva lot more
@187onasimp3 жыл бұрын
Those WU Royalties are all divided by 9 but you're right. They should all be worth like $200 Mill each. Seems like at the end of the day the labels were eating well but giving them scraps. They must have sold billions of dollars in records and merchandise by now.
@bigchino36472 жыл бұрын
Anyone who believes rzas net worth is 20 million is smoking crack. Use ur common sense
@chrisstoecker71892 жыл бұрын
@@bigchino3647 So what is his net worth? I have no idea because I'm not his accountant but bless us all with your use of common sense and give us the #
@bigchino36472 жыл бұрын
@@chrisstoecker7189 im not his accountant either but look how many albums wutang sold worldwide to this day, and rza is the artist, producer and executive producer on all those projects. And he is making more money now cuz he getting that film money. He is directing movies, scoring movies and acting in movies. Wu wear is still poppin and now he has the bobby digital comic book too. Rza can pull 20 million out his ass cheeks at any moment 😂
@chrisstoecker71892 жыл бұрын
@@bigchino3647 So you have no idea...thanks
@Wrestlelesson3 жыл бұрын
That Logo mannn is something verry special it makes me feel Wu Tang is calling me like when people see the Batman Logo something like seeing the old WWF logo strong bonds 💪🏽
@Diggy223 жыл бұрын
Real talk, after hearing all of this, getting the 8 members of the Wu to come together to record verses for Logic's "Wu-Tang Forever" track is a bona-fide miracle. Yeah, they recorded their bars at separate times in separate locations, but the fact that they could all agree to bless a younger MC their collective lyrical presence is a blessing 🙏🏽
@mostmost13 жыл бұрын
I saw the doc from HBO. They not torn apart. They knew they had to unite TO START, Then they branched out and come back together ever so often. They not like many groups who never talk to their former band mates or work with each other. Indy bands were not making much money in the 90s like today either.
@mostmost13 жыл бұрын
@dj qb they were not real enemies there hoods were historically. They were friends and they don't hate Rza. They highly respect him for his vision. They get into it like brothers from time to time.
@troyreneestephens43543 жыл бұрын
If you are really watching the show. RZA All nine members of the Clan was too busy doing the streets. RZA did everything he could to keep his clan and his respect for his clan a priority. He did exactly what he should of done. Stayed within his own mindset. At the end of the day. Life builds peoples intuition on how one chooses to administer ones own life choices.
@oratiletsimatsima96433 жыл бұрын
As much as I would like to agree, that show shows just RZA's perspective, not the whole perspective of being in the Wu. He was a genius but he made some bad decisions regarding the group. Especially regarding WuWear.
@calienteelfriende58422 жыл бұрын
Rza did make bad decisions however, a lot of the were left for him to make. On top of all the work he put into keeping the Clan together making beats running a production team and on top of that also being an MC eventually he got burned out come 2000s. Rza talked about great ideas he did have that he couldn't follow through with due to his position under Loud Records. He mentioned the success of Master P and No Limit records and the example of Master P making movies was an idea he had during the early days of Wu which was out of his control and got turned down. Master P was his own boss hence why he was able to pull it off. He had great idea concepts but due to being under Loud just didn't have the power to always have the yes/no power at the end of the day. He made the best of what he could do not to justify all his (bad) decisions he was younger at the time. If only he could've gone the Master P route but the route at which he went he was able to make the proper moves that opened doors for many future artists. Wu-Tang Clan was his idea his manifestation that became nearly a manifestation of its own within itself
@TheRenegade718 Жыл бұрын
@@calienteelfriende5842💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 Perfectly said
@stevenfogamomi5202 жыл бұрын
Love these music industy vidoes!!! Please make more!
@soakedbearrd3 жыл бұрын
Rza is Wutang. They are a super group but without RZA there would have never been Wutang and he did the majority of production, beats, direction, capital and business. Members like Meth, Rza and Ghostface felt that they deserved more money so they went solo. And more power to them, but lets get it straight, RZA is Wutang.
@SuperDeano1000 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget, and ODB says this with tears in his eyes, none of the clan came to see him during his 2 year prison stint. He got attacked and tried to kill himself yet no one visited him… Only Method Man apparently tried to call him once as Clifford.
@MortanAMrk Жыл бұрын
So not even his two actual cousins in the wu tang tried to visit him, what
@SuperDeano1000 Жыл бұрын
@MortanAMrk according to ODB, yes. Only Method Man made contact via his real name and ODB missed the call.
@charlita253 жыл бұрын
“Mics 🎙 of men “ was great documentary indeed 💯👐🏾
@ThePathGuarded3 жыл бұрын
CREAM get the money... and split it 11 ways, leading to group tensions and strain of relationships.
@nycsongman97583 жыл бұрын
That might be a big part of the problem right there: The beloved "crew" aspect of hip-hop; 5-6-7 dudes up on stage stomping around in tan Timbs, yelling curses into a mic; *no one* can sing, write a complete song, dance, play an instrument; I mean, *how* can such an act be sustainable *over years ?* It costs *money* to haul a bunch of limited-saleable-talent dudes around the country. *Plus* (and this is huge), *every* act's audience *outgrows* them. Only the really great acts are able to re-set, retool, and reinvent themselves, musically; how ? Such acts tend to be proficient *musically,* are able to move among different genres, and *tend to get along with folks in the industry.*
@nycsongman97583 жыл бұрын
@Gangsta Guy Okay; what's wrong with that ?
@leonsturdivant59653 жыл бұрын
@@nycsongman9758 that seems like a gross oversimplification.
@nycsongman97583 жыл бұрын
@@leonsturdivant5965 Duly noted; I don't agree, but I'll take that on advisement.
@nycsongman97583 жыл бұрын
@Gangsta Guy I thought that you were going to respond to my reply in which I'd asked what was wrong with appearing to be "salty". No matter. I would not, by any stretch of the imagination, limit hip-hop culture to mere "cursing and not getting along"; there's also the practice, and celebration of threat-making, mindless-consumption, public humiliation, sexual promiscuity, sexual debauchery; illicit drug procurement, preparation, and sales; vengeful acts, wanton illegal firearm display, and use; gang-culture, and all that culture entails; and the general glorification of violence, and disrespect of lawful authority. There's more, but seriously, I grow weary. Mind you, these practices/ celebrations are not just sprinkled randomly throughout a few of the songs, over the course of its forty-year run; no, what I've outlined is basically *that which the entire genre is built upon.* I'd invite you, actually, even *defy* you, to find any such run of destructive, psyche-damaging, criminality and anti-social, nihilistic behavior in *any* of the Beatles group, or amongst any of its individual members' *many* solo albums.
@jamesbrewer57853 жыл бұрын
It turns out Wu-Tang Clan was something to F with
@wzpu32833 жыл бұрын
False.
@tenniswerewolf80953 жыл бұрын
Legends Will never be anything like them in Hip Hop again today
@athens_1psvr313 жыл бұрын
The problem I have with Rza is that he tried to control how people got money, but as soon as his solo bags started getting offered then he was too busy to focus on Wu projects.
@mr.culturefreedom2073 Жыл бұрын
That wasn't it. All the members started wanting to break their contracts. So at that point why should he prioritize their solo projects that are on other labels when he has his own labels?
@deedwayne27523 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this... its important for the culture to the youngins... Do Born Thugs & Harmony too
@TheTenCentStory3 жыл бұрын
It should also be pointed out that a few of the Wu Tang members are very hard to work with and start fights with anyone they deem disrespectful. Nobody wants to work around that kind of chaos.
@kenyettaready3 жыл бұрын
Ummmmm inquiring minds want to know WHICH MEMBERS?
@bobdigi5003 жыл бұрын
@@kenyettaready Rae and U God
@brownin3293 жыл бұрын
Rae is always working. U God is always promoting Wu-Tang. Not sure what you're mad about.
@TheTenCentStory3 жыл бұрын
@@kenyettaready I'm not snitching on anybody.
@Frugal6373 жыл бұрын
It seems ghost was always in some crap behind the scenes. U God seems to be bitter.
@sibusisoenockcebekhulu93183 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video, great content, you did thorough research, and very informative 👌🏾👏🏾. Love from South Africa ✊🏾, I've subscribed.
@JohnSmith-ry7ot3 жыл бұрын
Thank god for the internet. I cant imagine what it's like to sell millions of records and then recieve a check that barely reaches $50 000. That's tough man... Great video as always!
@antfrancis99413 жыл бұрын
Though not technically a wu tang song "protect ya neck 2" is still (to this day) one of the coldest tracks I've ever heard.🙌
@dominiquejones38053 жыл бұрын
Off The W
@antfrancis99413 жыл бұрын
@@dominiquejones3805 Nah, from old dirtys first album. It's actually his Brooklyn zu team.
@ericvoronoff60403 жыл бұрын
What the hell are you talking about Protect ya neck was their first single and on their first album…….c’mon son
@antfrancis99413 жыл бұрын
@@ericvoronoff6040 I'll let you off cos you're 7 months late.
@howardking85193 жыл бұрын
I watched that documentary on showtime when it came out a year ago and remember seeing the argument between Ghost and Divine I thought it was said Divine only received 20 percent from each member of the Wu . Once you add that up it turns into a pretty large slice. But everybody was still getting paid it's sad that's what ruined their bond.
@belachaney3 жыл бұрын
20% from each member is ridiculous
@mcvgs17803 жыл бұрын
@@belachaney He was an early investor though and deserved a cut for the risk he took in funding the group. That's just how business works. Although 20% is kind of big.
@frankjum3 жыл бұрын
@@mcvgs1780 Even if that is all true, the 20% number should've been reduced years ago.
@40EastTrill3 жыл бұрын
@@frankjum That's an average management fee.
@marcuslosgreat42253 жыл бұрын
@@belachaney Yet they went to other labels and gave them 15 to 20 percent
@shockaZoolu Жыл бұрын
What i take from the series on Hulu is that the majority of the clan didn't want to go corporate. They didn't care much for the business side of things which hurt them. Not showing up to shows, recording sessions, etc.
@jasmorrisjr Жыл бұрын
As a long time fan of the WU, it breaks my heart that the greatest group of all time allowed the industry to slow their greatness!!! WuTang Forever!!!!
@flexninja7920 Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for RZA my man was really tryna produce 9 albums in 3 years like lowkey impossible especially after all the tapes got trashed due to the flood
@bayboy19673 жыл бұрын
This is why I like the Lox. They been together for over 20 yrs. never heard one negative thing about them.
@alizehustle93853 жыл бұрын
The Lox didnt bring enemies together. Mad respect to Rza
@phillipmcleod85843 жыл бұрын
The Lox is 3 guys compared to Wu's 8 of course there's gonna be more head butting. Nothing wrong with the liking the Lox more though.
@187onasimp3 жыл бұрын
The lox ain't Wu-Tang. Wu-Tang ain't even a group it's a hiphop revolution that changed the face of urban music. The united a whole city. You can draw a Wu Tang W anywhere on the globe and people be like... "WU TANG!!".
@mackvelly88993 жыл бұрын
The Lox kept their issues in house. U don't really see that now
@jimjones85523 жыл бұрын
8 Diagrams is the most underrated Wu album!
@rubski-ds9yc3 жыл бұрын
That album wasn't that gd like the w or Iron flag.
@Mr.BMC27633 жыл бұрын
@@rubski-ds9yc The W and Iron Flag are actually good albums. 8 Diagrams was AWFUL! Had like 4-5 songs worth listening too and one of them didn't even make it on the album.
@rachaad3 жыл бұрын
Agree I didn’t like that in the beginning but it age very so did A better tomorrow
@chrisbelos28347 ай бұрын
the best quote ever from the Wu was something Method man said. "when 36 dropped, we were kids from the streets. we grew up, we ain't thoses kids no more" and that works with every artist and band. people think their favorite artists isn't good anymore (like metalica fans in the 90s) but they just grew up, they matured, they ain't kids no more. their music reflects that.
@successwithstacee92903 жыл бұрын
The music business is tough.
@munkyzzb75043 жыл бұрын
I think RZA was really smart and did his best. Considering how many just official members in group it's hard to get everyone paid. Let them do their own albums and selling merch ( Which it could be bigger like Kiss the band). Idk how the money was split but look at them compared to other groups like G Unit. I think RZA tried his best groups are always gonna argue
@NateNizzle3 жыл бұрын
When I watched that Wu Tang Documentary I thought to myself.. "It's not cool to be talking about how you didn't cheat anyone out of money while sitting in a boat."
@dominiquejones38053 жыл бұрын
The mistrust wit Divine and then RZA let Cilvaringz 2 take advantage of his brothers
@shirkophobe3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough. How did you feel watching the 4th episode with the 1998 footage of the members arguing with Divine and Ghost saying Divine shouldn’t get any percentage for negotiating a million dollar deal?
@therealjohngalaxy3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Please more about the music industry. Thanks!
@TrvisXXIII3 жыл бұрын
I’m on season 2 of the wu tang series on Hulu and didn’t know divine and power fronted the money for the group. I just remember in the mics and men doc that RZA made divine the manager and he ended up robbing all of them - interested in seeing how power and divine even come together on the show
@alizehustle93853 жыл бұрын
Really? Wow thats interesting 🤔
@TrvisXXIII3 жыл бұрын
@@alizehustle9385 yeah, actually it was another person who was the manager but Divine played an executive role in the group. Most the members didn’t know what his title was, but he eventually robbed everyone and to this day most of the Wu don’t talk to him. It’s all in the doc
@alizehustle93853 жыл бұрын
@@TrvisXXIII wow. Can u tag the doc? Or tell me where to find it
@barnkieth38573 жыл бұрын
Fantastic commentary on the Wu.
@rrmond3 жыл бұрын
Has there ever been a rap group that has signed a good record deal? Or any black musician or musical group besides Ray Charles?
@TheNadroj103 жыл бұрын
Probably not. Black artists always get fucked over in the music industry with shit contracts and with little to none financial literacy
@mawandemdutywa25713 жыл бұрын
Jay Z
@40EastTrill3 жыл бұрын
@@mawandemdutywa2571 Jay Z started his own label because no label would sign him at first.
@Mr.BMC27633 жыл бұрын
Nas. Watch MC Search episode on drink champs! Nas didn't owe the label shit! And was a millionaire after Illmatic.
@Thoughtitwasadrought3 жыл бұрын
Birdman got a crazy deal
@PureNapture3 жыл бұрын
Spence...you're the GOAT for this!
@Lovelockmm2 жыл бұрын
Everyone always forgets Gravediggaz when talking about Wu's early days. I loved 6 Feet Deep. It was like that came out and 6 months later Wu-Tang dropped 36 Chambers and Gravediggaz became ghosts. It was like RZA didn't even try after that. If anyone out there ain't never listen to Gravediggaz and you like Wu, then check them out. You missing some good music.
@jeanemlicar Жыл бұрын
Gravediggaz we’re dope but once the Rza and Prince Paul left the group,no one bothered to pay attention to them anymore. R.I.P.,Reapper!!!
@jasonfederer9933 жыл бұрын
Saw Rage/Wu-Tang tour in Pittsburgh summer of ‘97. Seats were 3 rows from the stage. Still to this day consider it to be the greatest concert I’ve been to. Even topping Lolla ‘92
@Antonio_Ortiz3 жыл бұрын
Would have *loved* to have seen that tour.
@saadmanh3 жыл бұрын
Wu Tang Financial. Diversify ya bonds.
@warnutztheloser3 жыл бұрын
Spencer great job everything wuz on point. FACTZ
@MoneyOnlineSimple3 жыл бұрын
The music industry is brutal!
@nzadatneezy53113 жыл бұрын
Stay independent
@moneyboyok3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@aangelouReacts3 жыл бұрын
I wrote about this in one of my papers, of how the commercializing of music destroyed a lot of talent
@shulakuka Жыл бұрын
I'd love to read a paper on that.
@diggzdinero97853 жыл бұрын
great content I really enjoyed that
@Hovenboy3 жыл бұрын
The JOB squad split apart too, it’s sad to see all these great music groups quit on each other
@doom-mantia3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Would love to see you do more music industry/artist finance analyses.
@traptrillionairetheproduce73763 жыл бұрын
Other reasons for rift in WU #1 - RZA's brother #2 - Members' egos
@dominiquejones38053 жыл бұрын
They all became generals
@_ShaylinAmaru3 жыл бұрын
I definitely feel like Divine was one of the main reasons the group split up too many members said they missed out on a lot of money because of him or he took money from them
@notaflightreactsfan37063 жыл бұрын
Great work love these vids!
@mr.j4103 жыл бұрын
This is such a watered down one sided version of what happened.
@dominiquejones38053 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt Wu was kicked off the Hot97 stage
@wallcity3183 жыл бұрын
@@dominiquejones3805 even if they were, they didnt ruin the hot97 relationship, hot97 ruined the relationship with the Wu and should still be embarrassed
@FresHumbleNCool3 жыл бұрын
Dope Spencer 👍🏾
@sirnaelias98813 жыл бұрын
I dont know much about youtube but i think you should pick a style of thumbnail and stick to it so that when i see a thumbnail i can say ya thats spencers video. But iv noticed that your thumbnails are pretty diffrent and hard to identify your videos. Great video like always tho.
@SpencerCornelia3 жыл бұрын
Yea you're definitely right. I haven't solved this problem yet
@sirnaelias98813 жыл бұрын
@@SpencerCornelia For sure. Glad i can give some consructive critizesm :)
@SpencerCornelia3 жыл бұрын
@@sirnaelias9881 you motivated me to update this thumbnail. i made it last night at like 1am and was exhausted. much better now. thanks
@sirnaelias98813 жыл бұрын
@@SpencerCornelia Of course, any time! Thanks for the message and lessons you provide on this chaneel. Your hard work really does show!
@keyodi3 жыл бұрын
They helped rap EXPLODE in the mid 90s early 2000s. They should be worth 100 million a piece
@Millisama3 жыл бұрын
Power is the best character on the Wu series IMO... and dude that plays Divine looks JUST LIKE the real Divine
@Vinladen823 жыл бұрын
Ghost and Masta and ugod looks like them as well and gza too Raekwon a lil deck I don’t think so and Rza kinda
@Mustafa-pe5mp3 жыл бұрын
your video quality is really awesome. keep it up
@whome57703 жыл бұрын
Who won't get mad at a guy making 80 millions per year for a $50k initial investment? It was obvious RZA had to make the most he was the backbone of each song.
@anthonyharris24073 жыл бұрын
And if the group was a failure, they all would have been fine with him losing his 50k right? So be fine when things go great
@whome57703 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyharris2407 I doubt RZA would've leave him hanging like that. But we are just speculating about the past.
@andrewz13133 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Rainhands223 жыл бұрын
Great video. It's a shame they broke up but cash rules everything around me, and Rza was splitting that cash evenly.
@TorreyG3 жыл бұрын
Wu Has NEVER Broken Up!!
@jackfordmac3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps R.A. The Rugged Man would make an interesting topic for the music business
@wzpu32833 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it could show how important it is to pick a good, marketable stage name. I like R.A. but that stage name is more than kinda wack and couldn't have helped him much over the years.
@tanner-rh6oo3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done!!!
@losouknoso223 жыл бұрын
“A group of 8 lyrical sword men” I thought it was 9 lol 😂
@noi3ody2463 жыл бұрын
Fr which one is he dissin lol
@rsmct83603 жыл бұрын
It was 8 in the beginning, a la 36 Chambers, Cappadonna came around 98 with Ghostface's Ironman.
@losouknoso223 жыл бұрын
@@rsmct8360 cappadonna made it 10 dawg, Rza, Gza, odb, inspectah deck, method man, ghost face, Raekwon, masta killah, u god... mistery of chess boxing has all 9 rapping which was on 36 chambers cappadonna was introduced later in most wu tang albums he was replacing odb who was either in jail or rehab at the time
@rsmct83603 жыл бұрын
@@losouknoso22 stand corrected
@512ent3 жыл бұрын
@@rsmct8360 97
@blachubear3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video on the Wu.
@deebz223 жыл бұрын
All the members at one time or another said it was the Rza who was the issue over royalty points, control and money. Wanting them to share there points from solo projects as they would Wu projects and him being busy in Hollywood with Tarantino
@AlexMinor3 жыл бұрын
In theory, everyone getting money from any records made by the members would mean fewer disputes over money because everyone is always going to eat. Unfortunately, that’s not how most humans think/feel
@deebz223 жыл бұрын
@@AlexMinor yeah but not when it came to solo deals. Meth, Odb, gza, ghost and Rae sh*t even Cappadonna should not be splitting solo project money with u-god. I understand splitting the group money but the Rza felt they should do the same with the solo money
@TheKingKevinR3 жыл бұрын
Now i wanna jam to Liquid Swords thanks Spencer!
@theninethrees80443 жыл бұрын
“Egos are something that the Wu Tang crush!”
@sty7233 жыл бұрын
That's from one of ODB's songs. It made me sing the rest of the verse!
@theninethrees80443 жыл бұрын
@@sty723 yeah and they reused it as the chorus for the song “Crushed Egos” by RZA and Raekwon on the 2014 album.
@tfive243 жыл бұрын
I had accidentally bought the clean version enter the wu tang from Wal-Mart back in the day. When first played it on my CD player, I was like ,"what the fuck is this?". Lol
@doseofreality420marianetti23 жыл бұрын
I was in like Gen Flynn, since the early 90s. Around the time they were recording the demo for 36 Chambers is when I met some people in the circle of Wu Fam. a lot of complaints came aimed at the RZA because of his methodology for releasing albums ranked on importance of what ever was in his mind. So a lot of resentment over artists feeling being stymied and held back. Nine OGs of the Clan weren't even the actual original members but became the mascots of the Wu Brand after the dust settles. I don't claim to be the authority on this topic but if you listen to all sides of the story then what I am saying is based on available known facts. In my humble opinion, in 1998, every single artist Affiliated under the Wu Brand, from Killah Priest, Cappadonna, Sunz of Man, Killarmy and the Swarm artists, all these artists, either solo or groups, should have been dropping their own material steadily even if they had to go completely independent. Wu Tang had no business being involved in the Illuminati controlled music industry. They should have been self sufficient and independent since day one and said screw being black balling, Hollywood deals and the perks of selling your soul to the Beast.
@e1t1enterprises893 жыл бұрын
Wonderful breakdown Bro!
@mathewmartinez96312 жыл бұрын
Nicely done.
@HA-the-illest3 жыл бұрын
Feels like the entire group rested on the RZA. When the members failed (U-god) solo it was RZA's fault but when they were successful it was because of the group. I remember listening to Cam'ron saying something similar with Dipset, the members almost felt like Cam'ron was a dad. He was responsible for everything bad and negated for all the good. Regardless big up the Wu, biggest group of all time. Rza the genius architect, Meth cal one of the biggest personalities of hip hop. Raekwon the most cinematic rapper of all time. Ghostface, one of the greatest rappers of all time, definitely a top10 rapper.
@fajko397 Жыл бұрын
Bro i love rza but he had 8 core memebers not including masta killa and yet he still focused on others. U god deserves respect, and also, the inspeactah deck never went platium, but there wasn't a verse he didn't kill, and everyone in the 90s rated him so highly. Them having the first albums released 6 years after the 1st wu album is crazy. Rza through them to the side.
@ACE-fi2uv3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Ny, and I don't ever recall them not playing wu songs for 10 years....
@kasheem17473 жыл бұрын
RZA knew along what was going to be the outcome putting his name on everything
@beststeveyet2273 жыл бұрын
This is bringing back flashbacks of Jr High, yep i'm one of your older viewers.
@brandoncobb46463 жыл бұрын
Liked and subscribed. I feel like you handled that well, but obviously a lot got left out like the impact of ODB's death on the group.
@DOOM-kronicills3 жыл бұрын
Well whiteout RZA we wouldn’t have the Wu ,he redefined rap and deserves the extra pay checks. without him they would all be working regular jobs like earning like the rest of us shmucks
@vizionaryentertainment84643 жыл бұрын
Yea but after a certain point Divine didn't. Once he recouped his initial investment it his checks should of stopped but he set the wu tang productions company up as to where he'd always get paid
@kaydh98753 жыл бұрын
Well explained.
@AGunz9823 жыл бұрын
RZA deserved more than anyone.
@9.teen.87 Жыл бұрын
Just remember .. *" Wu-Tang Clan Ain't Nuttin ta Fuck Wit "*