How the Music Spoils Sweeney Todd (and why that's a good thing!)

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4 жыл бұрын

This is re-upload for a video that was originally posted Oct 29, 2019
Turns out that the original version is only blocked in the USA (I think?) and that everyone else on the planet can now see two versions of this video...soo...uhh...
I guess this is the US version of this video now?
Attend the tale of the Dies Irae
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Sources/Links:
This blog post has most (if not all) of the instances of the Dies Irae:
dropera.blogspot.com/2014/09/s...
Another great article about the characterization in Sweeney Todd, also some Dies Irae:
www.fromscoretostage.com/sing...
Sondheim's breakdown of Epiphany:
• Epiphany Sweeney Todd ...
Sondheim discussing using just a single idea and developing it:
• Stephen Sondheim on “S...
Into The Hoods's Sweeney Todd breakdown (I HIGHLY recommend watching this):
• (Part 1/20) - Sondheim...
Musicals w/ Cheese's Epiphany breakdown:
• Analysis of "Epiphany"...
Kevin Lynch's Epiphany breakdown:
• Breaking Down the Scor...
TheDetectiveSteve's review of Burton's adaptation of Sweeney Todd:
• Detective Reviews #39 ...
Bobby Burns's review of Burton's adaptation of Sweeney Todd:
• Sweeney Todd: How To A...
Full discussion of Sweeney Todd that I completely forgot to credit in the video (sorry!) by Musicals w/Cheese:
• Sweeney Todd is a PERF...
Sondheim discussing the Dies Irae and Sweeney's musical identity:
• Sweeney Todd Rare 1980...
An amazing dissertation on Sweeney Todd (It's where I read about how there are 15 leitmotifs, and that 13 are directly related to the Dies Irae):
uh-ir.tdl.org/bitstream/handl...
Another amazing thesis that collected several critical leitmotifs from Sweeney Todd, also, naturally, discusses the inclusion of the Dies Irae at length:
mural.maynoothuniversity.ie/76...
And the third thesis that I looked at in preparation for this video that corroborated everything else that I had read:
citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/...
Dies Irae Excerpt:
• Serpent & Ophicleide -...
Live Epiphany Clip:
• Sweeney Todd | Epiphan...
Finally, "Sondheim on Music" by Mark Eden Horowitz
I can't recommend this book enough, it's such a fun read.

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@starcxtcher
@starcxtcher 4 жыл бұрын
me: *sondheim is a genius, idk how he does it* sondheim: *yeh i just take one melody and alter it like twenty times* me: *_l e g e n d a r y_*
@danimations1440
@danimations1440 3 жыл бұрын
Hhaha he did tha
@notyou8716
@notyou8716 3 жыл бұрын
I just finished watching Sweeney Todd. It was ANNOYING.
@starcxtcher
@starcxtcher 3 жыл бұрын
@@notyou8716, [Everybody Disliked That.]
@dommitchell4319
@dommitchell4319 3 жыл бұрын
That's musical theatre in a nutshell. Les Miserables is like 5 different melodies repurposed in different parts. The Bishops song is Empty Chairs, Valjean's Soliloquy and Javerts Suicide are the exact same musically, and so on.
@ameliamarsh6378
@ameliamarsh6378 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly it’s just making you feel dumb because he’s a doing a simple thing. Sort of a repetitive loophole he found. And then he applies it to the entire musical.
@Phoenix1212121212
@Phoenix1212121212 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, it's all dies irae? Sweeney from behind with his razor: Always has been
@mary-clarkmatthews7893
@mary-clarkmatthews7893 3 жыл бұрын
this deserves more likes
@arrowvampire1239
@arrowvampire1239 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I ruined your 69 likes, that's how good your comment was XD
@gracerutherford4666
@gracerutherford4666 3 жыл бұрын
@@arrowvampire1239 the judge.... "always".
@Omenweaver
@Omenweaver 3 жыл бұрын
@@gracerutherford4666 I understood that reference!
@gracerutherford4666
@gracerutherford4666 3 жыл бұрын
@@Omenweaver Harry potterrrr :D
@aymann7234
@aymann7234 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, the original literally tells you "He shaved the faces of gentlemen who never thereafter were heard from again."
@lympharia8257
@lympharia8257 3 жыл бұрын
sweeney also sings "we all deserve to die, even you, mrs. lovett, even i" so yah it's not exactly subtle
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 2 жыл бұрын
Sweeney himself also pops out of the shallow grave and sings “What happened, then? Well that’s the play and he wouldn’t want us to give it away.”
@AlinaAniretake
@AlinaAniretake Жыл бұрын
Nobody listens for Songs, in case of Lyrics, if you are musician
@featherelfstrom8405
@featherelfstrom8405 Жыл бұрын
@@AlinaAniretake Huh?
@allieasbill2055
@allieasbill2055 3 жыл бұрын
I love the way you say “So, this is Sweeney” in the beginning. It feels like a kid at show and tell bringing his pet and he’s like “This is my pet; he’s a crocodile.” It just sounds like such a cute intro for a homicial maniac.
@pinkajou656
@pinkajou656 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@laughingooooo
@laughingooooo 2 жыл бұрын
PERFECT ANALOGY
@ravenkills
@ravenkills 2 жыл бұрын
4:37 timestamp for people who don't wanna take the time to find it
@aebious8886
@aebious8886 2 жыл бұрын
@@ravenkills thanks legend
@yellobanana6456
@yellobanana6456 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know what you’re talking about, everybody’s pet is a homicidal maniac
@voltsix5538
@voltsix5538 4 жыл бұрын
me, who's never seen Sweeny Todd nor has any musical education: *ah yes, of course they use the Dies Irae*
@just-trying-my-best-everyday
@just-trying-my-best-everyday 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@TheGodGamr
@TheGodGamr 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously, why wouldn't it be there? *Me, also not having any musical education*
@oliviah.9580
@oliviah.9580 3 жыл бұрын
Go to choir class 😔🖐🏽 you’ll know after a year and will randomly hear the words and it’ll scare the shit out of ya
@pandalandalopalis6515
@pandalandalopalis6515 3 жыл бұрын
me, who's only knowledge about music comes from sideways: THE DIES IRAE OF COURSE THAT'S GENIUS
@tylerdecker5099
@tylerdecker5099 3 жыл бұрын
@@just-trying-my-best-everyday mu9
@emilyjones9787
@emilyjones9787 4 жыл бұрын
Dies irae: the musical
@Arthur-by4jh
@Arthur-by4jh 4 жыл бұрын
I love your prof. pic
@krisdeltarun
@krisdeltarun 4 жыл бұрын
I want that to be a musical
@cf3714
@cf3714 4 жыл бұрын
I would upvote, but it's at 666
@sorentheratgod
@sorentheratgod 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Beetlejuice pretty much
@magsyilden670
@magsyilden670 4 жыл бұрын
@Lord Starfield wtf? 😂
@artemiss7106
@artemiss7106 3 жыл бұрын
Me: plays random notes Sideways: that’s the dies irae upside down and backwards with the last note raised and a passing tone so yeah you are gonna die confirmed.
@pinkajou656
@pinkajou656 3 жыл бұрын
LMTO YES
@Shadow-zf5uc
@Shadow-zf5uc 2 жыл бұрын
That's honestly also a really good depiction of what having OCD is like
@atomicdancer
@atomicdancer Жыл бұрын
Me, listening to the music of various random ads throughout the video: "Hmm. Yes, I think I can hear the Dies Irae." 🤔
@dylankornberg4892
@dylankornberg4892 2 жыл бұрын
The dies irae is perhaps the greatest example of Harry Plinkett’s Law: “You might not have noticed it, but your brain did.”
@mollusckscramp4124
@mollusckscramp4124 4 ай бұрын
I love that quote so much lol
@anthonydixon4636
@anthonydixon4636 3 ай бұрын
I feel bad I never noticed it having majored. Just didn’t realize how often I’ve heard it lol.
@officialmonarchmusic
@officialmonarchmusic Ай бұрын
The Plinkett videos are garbage
@Sputnik1
@Sputnik1 4 жыл бұрын
How to die of alcohol intoxication in 5 minutes: Take a shot every time Dies irae is mentioned
@mikulover9452
@mikulover9452 4 жыл бұрын
Sev that’s 40 shots
@Sputnik1
@Sputnik1 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikulover9452 enough to kill a man
@aronta9059
@aronta9059 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sputnik1 A weak man
@AmbiguousProxy
@AmbiguousProxy 3 жыл бұрын
How about taking a shot every time it's PLAYED. I don''t think there is enough alcohol in the world.
@atomicdancer
@atomicdancer Жыл бұрын
**dies** **irae**
@coolbeans5911
@coolbeans5911 4 жыл бұрын
2:04 "Once upon a time, there was this guy called Jesus, and he died" Woah, dude, spoiler alert. I haven't gotten to that book yet🤦🏼‍♀️
@JasonWise
@JasonWise 4 жыл бұрын
Bro you had like 2000 years to read that, not his fault.
@luckyinugirl1816
@luckyinugirl1816 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@coolbeans5911
@coolbeans5911 4 жыл бұрын
@@JasonWise i'm a slow reader. Sue me
@kawaiiempoleon8721
@kawaiiempoleon8721 4 жыл бұрын
@@coolbeans5911 ok what should I sue you for
@lashellehill7134
@lashellehill7134 4 жыл бұрын
Sam and Colby???
@shawnconway6009
@shawnconway6009 3 жыл бұрын
'once upon a time there was a guy called jesus, and he died, but there was a bunch of people who really liked jesus, so they wrote songs to him' that's one way to describe that, yeah.
@gracenurse3365
@gracenurse3365 Жыл бұрын
The only problem with the quote is, there’s no contemporary proof “Jesus” existed.
@azuroslazuli6948
@azuroslazuli6948 Жыл бұрын
Looks like somebody hasn’t checked out the Roman tax records.
@FallenAngelHiroko
@FallenAngelHiroko Жыл бұрын
@@gracenurse3365 More and more historians are coming out saying Jesus did indeed existed. Just that he wasn't the Son of God like Christians claimed; an ordinary man no different than you and I. Depends on who you want to believe. I mean, there's no definitive proof that Leo Di Vici was a gay man in a romantic relationship with Salais (butchered spelling). But everyone seems to be inclined to believe it. Again, depends on who you want to believe.
@Bubbly_Dragon
@Bubbly_Dragon Жыл бұрын
@@gracenurse3365 When you reach that far back into history, the expected threshold for proof is small - by necessity. We know about as well as we can know that about two thousand years ago there was a man named Jesus, because there are at least two separate sources that mention a man named Jesus. Was he capable of miracles? Well there's only the one source so it's not very likely. This doesn't just go for Biblical figures, either; there are whole ass monarchs who's only proof of existence is other people talking shit about them
@hailmuse
@hailmuse 8 ай бұрын
​​@@gracenurse3365no there's reason to believe he was an actual person but it's hard to track due to so much history being destroyed. By many people he was just seen as a prophet. The Romans likely didn't realize he was even significant until people got super mad about his death
@Z.K.McNall
@Z.K.McNall 3 жыл бұрын
The music doesn’t spoil it, the music does EXACTLY what it was intended to do and it plants clues to the plot in your subconscious leaving you with a sense of shock and surprise when major events take place but also simultaneously prepares you for EVERYTHING and you feel immersed as though you could’ve easily predicted every move made
@pineapple7024
@pineapple7024 Жыл бұрын
Sparknotes for anyone too lazy to watch the video
@JacklynBurn
@JacklynBurn Жыл бұрын
Yeah nah, I think the phrase "spoils" has become too common these days. The music doesn't *spoil* it, it *foreshadows* it. The same way that Romeo and Juliet opens by telling you that the star-crossed lovers are destined to die, Sweeney Todd musically tells you how this man desires to be an avenging angel, and is twisted to becoming another devil in the hell that is London.
@user-bj4iq7fs1e
@user-bj4iq7fs1e 10 ай бұрын
@@JacklynBurn i doubt he means "spoils" as "ruins it", but more as "gives it away" or "foreshadows" it as you said
@TheBaconprincess
@TheBaconprincess 4 жыл бұрын
Take a shot everytime Sideways says "Dies Irae" and you'll begin to hear Dies Irae.
@lasvina3610
@lasvina3610 3 жыл бұрын
God this comment is underated
@leavemealone2830
@leavemealone2830 3 жыл бұрын
Lasvina 36 yes it is
@olivethereindeer6148
@olivethereindeer6148 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a fun game
@shuckacuck
@shuckacuck 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, that got me laughing.
@Lynnmovie
@Lynnmovie 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@marge00
@marge00 3 жыл бұрын
you know how i determined how Joanna was Sweeney’s daughter? she’s blonde and Lucy is blonde
@ninab.4540
@ninab.4540 3 жыл бұрын
Boooooo
@marge00
@marge00 3 жыл бұрын
@@ninab.4540 i didn’t think to listen to the one second of violins playing in the background. silly me
@aceshighdueceslow
@aceshighdueceslow 3 жыл бұрын
Sweeney Todd is about as subtle as a hammer with its narrative, and that is not at all a bad thing
@bumblegadget_
@bumblegadget_ 3 жыл бұрын
you know how i determined Joanna was Sweeney's daughter? mrs. lovett says the judge took her as a ward
@QuikVidGuy
@QuikVidGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@@bumblegadget_ excellent point
@conbontheboy
@conbontheboy 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: this movie was Johnny Depp's first time actually singing professionally, and he worked with sondheim and vocal coaches endlessly, so I think he did pretty good considering all that!
@sarahsmith9117
@sarahsmith9117 2 жыл бұрын
Uhm look up “Cry Baby” (1990) he was dubbed over with James Intveld voice but that was after he sang it himself. So I kind of think it counts; even if it doesn’t.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarahsmith9117 Wow, so it doesn't count and isn't relevant.
@user-gp7wy1ud2q
@user-gp7wy1ud2q Жыл бұрын
@@sarahsmith9117 Uhhm.. you literally just said it was dubbed by someone else..?
@featherelfstrom8405
@featherelfstrom8405 Жыл бұрын
@@LordVader1094 His first time singing in a movie was in the last 45 seconds of Pirates of the Caribbean. Anyway, Sweeney Todd was autotuned to death, so does it really matter?
@featherelfstrom8405
@featherelfstrom8405 Жыл бұрын
@@user-gp7wy1ud2q His first time singing in a movie was in the last 45 seconds of Pirates of the Caribbean. Anyway, Sweeney Todd was autotuned to death, so does it really matter?
@darthsmaul6314
@darthsmaul6314 3 жыл бұрын
I love how sideways is usually super negative about film adaptations for broadway shows but he keeps saying how much he likes this one. really shows how good it is.
@silverdays2909
@silverdays2909 2 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks Darth Smaul Sith Lord
@blanketpineapple
@blanketpineapple 3 жыл бұрын
As one who has unfortunately never seen Sweeney todd, I thought he was holding a sardine in the thumbnail.
@241Cookies__
@241Cookies__ 3 жыл бұрын
So I was not the only one
@pinkajou656
@pinkajou656 3 жыл бұрын
Lmto...
@naly202
@naly202 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you have watched it since your latest comment. trust me, i'm not for thrillers and gore, but this movie is fabulous (in spite of all the gore). best role for Johnny by far (even surpasses Jack Sparrow) as for Helena she's way more scarier than Bellatrix. Btw, if you like Harry Potter, this movie is a must see (i watched it to see Snape) but Wormtail is also there. And! Anthony, the sailor is the young Grindelwald. it's literally much closer to the canon than the Cursed Child will ever be. As for the music... it's painful to the ears, unpleasant, weird at first..... but after a second, third viewing I got obsessed with it. Gorgeously written by a mad genius!
@sugar1973us
@sugar1973us 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I have seen Sweeney Todd several times, stage and movie version, and I still thought I saw a sardine too!
@evangelineeden342
@evangelineeden342 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched the movie so many times but I still thought it was a sardine too 🤣
@zephyrback5093
@zephyrback5093 3 жыл бұрын
Alternative title; Man goes mad to Christian Death Song
@ginoiminoi
@ginoiminoi 3 жыл бұрын
cznsfjgsjgej plss
@KissKrys
@KissKrys 2 жыл бұрын
Not Christian Death!!! Lmao
@sylph8005
@sylph8005 2 жыл бұрын
Anthony's Distress
@FeverDreamTheOneAndOnly
@FeverDreamTheOneAndOnly 2 жыл бұрын
@@sylph8005 alternative title for the musical lol
@thewhiterabbitchaser
@thewhiterabbitchaser Ай бұрын
sideways or sweeney? lol
@themedia1271
@themedia1271 3 жыл бұрын
I was talking about this movie a few days ago with my family and I forgot Tim Burtom's name so I said "the guy who makes all of his characters anemic." And my mom said "Oh I know who you're talking about now the Beetlejuice guy!"
@RoxieRedwood
@RoxieRedwood 3 жыл бұрын
Today I learned that the closest I'll get to one of my favorite storytellers is my low iron levels 😆 but I love your comment!
@Haze-xr9rc
@Haze-xr9rc 2 жыл бұрын
that is the best description of Tim Burton's style ever
@friedpickle8332
@friedpickle8332 2 жыл бұрын
As a black-haired pasty anemic, I have never been so offended by something I 100% agree with. (Jk I love Burton's style and he's one of my favorite directors 😄)
@matichagak548
@matichagak548 Жыл бұрын
BROOO I want to join those family talks!! Sounds much better then mine
@DiscoTimelordASD
@DiscoTimelordASD 6 ай бұрын
Yep. Beetlejuice would have been my first choice😂
@TinyBlurryMan
@TinyBlurryMan 3 жыл бұрын
I just realized the opening to The Shining has the Dies Irae in it. I need to sit down for a second.
@User-435ggrest
@User-435ggrest 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was looking for this comment. It's one of the most recognized intro theme to a movie. I was surprised he didn't include it in the compilation.
@hailmuse
@hailmuse 8 ай бұрын
Me too like I heard that theme and all I could do was just lay there with my jaw in hell 😭
@mackenziegoodwin459
@mackenziegoodwin459 8 ай бұрын
It's also the entire "The Twilight Zone" theme and the Jaws theme uses it, too.
@robynwilson9227
@robynwilson9227 4 жыл бұрын
Music: *exists* Sideways: *heavy breathing* D I E S I R A E 😫 👀 👌 🔥
@mickey4125
@mickey4125 3 жыл бұрын
*visible sweating* must... leitmotif...
@SixtySecondYoga
@SixtySecondYoga 4 жыл бұрын
How the hell can you hear a line of a song and realise it's part of another song upside down??
@jalfredprufrock620
@jalfredprufrock620 3 жыл бұрын
Retrograde(backwards), inversion(upside-down), and retrograde-inversion are basic devices in counterpoint, so it's something a musician would know to look out for.
@stasiu7205
@stasiu7205 3 жыл бұрын
you don't, but your brain does
@athenavonheon2
@athenavonheon2 3 жыл бұрын
U turn the music upsidedown
@felixmarques
@felixmarques 3 жыл бұрын
rhythmically there is a similarity, and overall the relation between the pitches is similar even if it's upside down, so you will not consciously analyze it but it will vaguely remind you-leitmotifs aren't primarily supposed to be consciously detected
@glorygloryholeallelujah
@glorygloryholeallelujah 3 жыл бұрын
Sorcery .... obviously.
@joannaellis7890
@joannaellis7890 3 жыл бұрын
As someone named Joanna I deeply thank you for not playing THAT song that every theatre kid thought was the peak of comedy to sing to me
@StoryMing
@StoryMing 3 жыл бұрын
There are by my count THREE *different* songs in Sweeney titled 'Johanna'. The one Anthony sings. The one Judge Turpin sings which is cut from many (most?) productions of the show but really should be left in; and the one Sweeney sings when he is reminiscing lyrically while killing off his clientele. ...But I'm guessing you probably must mean Anthony's song.
@joannaellis7890
@joannaellis7890 3 жыл бұрын
@@StoryMing idk fam all i know is the first two lines ppl publicly serenade me with out of nowhere
@thaliapeters949
@thaliapeters949 2 жыл бұрын
@@StoryMing i would hope ppl dont come up to them and go YOU MOCK ME JOANNA YOU TEMPT ME WITH YOUR INNOCENCE
@StoryMing
@StoryMing 2 жыл бұрын
@@thaliapeters949 Those aren’t the first two lines... (though I would hope so too!)
@beek.4860
@beek.4860 2 жыл бұрын
I feeeeel yoooou Johaaaaanaaaaa..........
@stuckinquarantine4582
@stuckinquarantine4582 3 жыл бұрын
Real quickly, I just want to point out Johana and Lucy's flute theme real quickly. There was one other scene I believe where you can really hear the flute, and that is in the song "God, That's Good." You hear the flute a total of two times throughout the number, and these moments are right before Mrs. Lovett tells Toby to "throw the old woman out!" The flute was clearly starting to play because Lucy had entered the shop, and Mrs. Lovett made the flute music stop by kicking Lucy out of the shop. Another reason why the score for Sweeney Todd is outstanding!
@SophieSquid
@SophieSquid 4 жыл бұрын
Guys i heard a note. You know what else has notes? That's right. The Dies Irae.
@livgeherin7514
@livgeherin7514 3 жыл бұрын
Woah you're a genius
@z1z0423
@z1z0423 3 жыл бұрын
Every song is *DeAtH*
@buddyboi7007
@buddyboi7007 3 жыл бұрын
Oop
@queenjohnbee3411
@queenjohnbee3411 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like this funny comment but it’s at 666 and I’m not a monster
@SophieSquid
@SophieSquid 3 жыл бұрын
@@queenjohnbee3411 Dude thank you I have achieved official comedy
@SixOhhGeeTeeOhh
@SixOhhGeeTeeOhh 3 жыл бұрын
"so there's these 4 notes right?" *hits bong* "what if we only used that all the time"
@moviemaestro800
@moviemaestro800 3 жыл бұрын
It's like how we, as a culture, only know the opening phase to the Toccata and Fugue in D Minor, despite being quite an extensive organ piece indeed. The majority of the piece is a lot more peppy sounding than the Gothic imagery we've culturally associated with that iconic opening phrase might suggest.
@pinkajou656
@pinkajou656 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviemaestro800 wow
@user-vb3rv2cr4t
@user-vb3rv2cr4t 2 жыл бұрын
@@moviemaestro800 I looked it up, and indeed, the piece sounded way less Gothic than pop culture makes the opening to be. Thanks, I learned something new today.
@ezelfrancisco1349
@ezelfrancisco1349 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen Sondheim: *hastily writes this tip down for Sweeney Todd and Into The Woods*
@kodexi2761
@kodexi2761 2 жыл бұрын
You should see The Batman (2022). They really took it to heart.
@NotAGraveRobber
@NotAGraveRobber 2 жыл бұрын
This makes the line "he heard music that no one heard" (only stage show) SO MUCH BETTER
@definitelyhuman9234
@definitelyhuman9234 3 жыл бұрын
Ok what bothers me in the movie is just the broken mirror, not for some deep reason, it’s just because it could be a serious scene but one look at their reflection and I burst out laughing
@JackieRompana
@JackieRompana 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking maybe that's intentional... It's like how sometimes parents try to make their upset children laugh by doing something goofy or doing a silly face to distract them from the chaos in their head. So maybe Mrs Lovett is trying to be the mother figure or the family member who wants to divert Sweeney from doing the things that are going on in his mind... Since the scene continues normally, you can see that the silly face thing doesn't get through to Sweeney.
@cozyninos
@cozyninos 4 жыл бұрын
*Dies Irae:* it’s in the walls, it’s in the toilet, it’s everywhere
@nosuchthingasgoodcows7003
@nosuchthingasgoodcows7003 4 жыл бұрын
ITS INFECTING THE TAP WATER AND TURNING THE FRICKIN FROGS DEAD
@pork_soda6
@pork_soda6 4 жыл бұрын
its in the freaking pies too!!
@fluoromarx
@fluoromarx 4 жыл бұрын
This could be merch honestly
@henryanderson6752
@henryanderson6752 4 жыл бұрын
thatgissel I just hAtE it when my ancient melodies get stuck in the plumbing smh
@emmabean5150
@emmabean5150 4 жыл бұрын
Unus Annus...Unus Annus...UNUS ANNUS.
@nevermoore4545
@nevermoore4545 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Johnny actually wanted to be a musician when he was a young lad, but then he had the role in nightmare on elms street and he was hooked on being an actor
@user-hanging-at-the-hanged-man
@user-hanging-at-the-hanged-man 3 жыл бұрын
I love Johnny
@micahmayer9487
@micahmayer9487 3 жыл бұрын
he actually got that dream too! back in 2015 Alice Cooper revived the name of his old band from the seventies, The Hollywood Vampires, and Johnny is a guitarist and vocalist in the new Hollywood Vampires!
@nevermoore4545
@nevermoore4545 3 жыл бұрын
@@micahmayer9487 ayyy I’m glad for him!
@jessicalinbarnett
@jessicalinbarnett 2 жыл бұрын
Johnny did great in this movie 😁😇🙃🙃
@soip6710
@soip6710 2 жыл бұрын
@@micahmayer9487 and also, in January he uploaded a video of him doing a cover to his Instagram so he still is making music
@teresaellis7062
@teresaellis7062 7 ай бұрын
It makes me so happy to see you referring to other KZbin makers who have covered other parts of this topic. It is like the owner of one shop saying, "Well, we don't carry that product, but if you go to this other shop, they will have it." 🥰
@zebrafish7267
@zebrafish7267 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really good breakdown of the musical themes, but “spoiling” is kind of an oversimplification. A better word is “foreshadowing”.
@editating_2614
@editating_2614 Жыл бұрын
No one would have clicked hearing foreshadowing
@zebrafish7267
@zebrafish7267 Жыл бұрын
@@editating_2614 Fair. But still...
@BoltingTurtle
@BoltingTurtle 4 жыл бұрын
I think you're missing a few things here because you're interpreting the dies irae as just being about death. It's sung as part of the requiem mass, yes, but it's specifically about begging God to avenge the suffering of the innocent. In the first half of the score, Todd is an avenging angel pursuing justice against a corrupt judge, but by the second half he's simply a demon tormenting those in hell - London. This isn't just about death, it's about justice in an unjust world. That's why the Dies Irae is so perfect for this.
@vampirewolf373
@vampirewolf373 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a very good point. After all “Dias Irae” translates to day of wrath not day of death. He’s not necessarily thirsting for death, he’s thirsting for vengeance. And salvation from that thirsting. Granted that involves killing but it’s incidental. It happens because of the need for the warped and twisted desire for justice.
@mariahhenderson1470
@mariahhenderson1470 3 жыл бұрын
Me, never has seen Sweeney Todd: oh yes the vengeance
@ShevkoMore
@ShevkoMore 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with that... buut 13:38?
@redpandaluver8561
@redpandaluver8561 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariahhenderson1470 "Attend the tale of Sweeney Todd. He served a dark and a vengeful god" that is how Sweeney introduces himself. It's great! You should watch it, it's very good.
@mariahhenderson1470
@mariahhenderson1470 3 жыл бұрын
@@redpandaluver8561 maybe I should
@adamkingston2725
@adamkingston2725 4 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, that opening "Attend The Tale of Sweeney Todd" number has a line that gives light to this musical theory; "Sweeney heard music that nobody heard" i.e. the Dies Irae, the call of death
@vollmond9342
@vollmond9342 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it just means that Sweeney is a hipster who's REALLY into underground music
@bemasaberwyn55
@bemasaberwyn55 3 жыл бұрын
@@vollmond9342 SAVAGE
@pinkajou656
@pinkajou656 2 жыл бұрын
Woah-
@beek.4860
@beek.4860 2 жыл бұрын
See I always took it to mean that all the musical numbers are happening in Sweeney's head but I like your interpretation better lol
@katrinam6795
@katrinam6795 2 жыл бұрын
Dies irae means Day of Vengeance though
@theunbalancedcharge2077
@theunbalancedcharge2077 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Steven Sondheim. Man was a legend
@idontexist166
@idontexist166 3 жыл бұрын
This is honestly such a great adaption. I think it's really hard to adapt a stage production into a movie and do it the RIGHT WAY, because most elements on stage are more magical or impressive live. For example, an example of a bad movie adaptation of a stage musical is the 2012 Les Miserables movie. The backing score was not adding any tension, and the lead actors were either lifeless and flat, or way over the the top when delivering their lines (except for Amanda Seyfried, Samantha Barks, and Eddie Redmayne). However, in the movie adaption of Sweeney Todd, all of the elements that were in the stage musical are in the film. One of the producers even noted that they were going to try their best to add in as much blood as necessary, because they wanted to take advantage of what they could present on film. Aside from that, all of the actors are perfect for their roles, and deliver their speaking and singing lines with such finesse. The score is absolutely brilliant and, as Sideway explained, a great way to foreshadow the upcoming events that will take place later on in the story. Sweeney Todd is one of my favorite movie adaptions based off of a stage musical.
@joed180
@joed180 Жыл бұрын
It's my absolute least favorite haha. By far.
@howyoutubesmells
@howyoutubesmells 3 жыл бұрын
Legend has it, if you listen to Dies Irae - Johnny Depp comes for you.
@Artleycoul
@Artleycoul 3 жыл бұрын
He needs a hug. I'd welcome him in with hot tea and cookies.
@rojax_thevoicetm2385
@rojax_thevoicetm2385 3 жыл бұрын
Don't threaten me with a good time 😏
@WolfanTerror
@WolfanTerror 3 жыл бұрын
@@Artleycoul I'd definitely do the same
@Artleycoul
@Artleycoul 3 жыл бұрын
@@WolfanTerror We stan the man
@SpiderandMosquito
@SpiderandMosquito 3 жыл бұрын
Good I could use an autograph XD
@Michael-lf6xs
@Michael-lf6xs 3 жыл бұрын
It's not spoiling... It's foreshadowing. *Puts on glasses *Flips table *Leaves room
@liztorbett
@liztorbett 3 жыл бұрын
you’re so cool
@Michael-lf6xs
@Michael-lf6xs 3 жыл бұрын
You’re way cooler than I’ll ever be.. Hence your KZbin name😂
@pinkajou656
@pinkajou656 3 жыл бұрын
//dies of extreme coolness exposure//
@vanillaplanifoliae
@vanillaplanifoliae 2 жыл бұрын
is it the wind.. or foreshadowing??
@jocosesonata
@jocosesonata 2 жыл бұрын
Pfffft! You didn't even leave the room on a skateboard. **puts on **_two_** sunglasses** **flips the table you flipped** **leaves the room on a skateboard** **finger guns**
@rubytuesdayphoenix
@rubytuesdayphoenix Жыл бұрын
The line reading of "there was a guy called Jesus, and he died" made me laugh hysterically for like five minutes straight. Also, "he's going to come back and kill everyone so he can have the world's greatest slumber party." Dude, keep doing what you do, it's awesome.
@spaceitow7512
@spaceitow7512 3 жыл бұрын
2:03 "you could make a religion out of this"
@GurschachX
@GurschachX 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Sideways: *So let's talk about Dies Irae*
@danielf3623
@danielf3623 4 жыл бұрын
Who got the ending of Frozen 2 spoiled for them by the Dies Irae thanks to Sideways?
@emodate
@emodate 4 жыл бұрын
Gürschach X David W Collins (from The Soundtrack Show): Did somebody say Dies Irae!?
@alizeica519
@alizeica519 4 жыл бұрын
Beetlejuice the musical? Lmao
@draco89123
@draco89123 4 жыл бұрын
DEAAAAAAAAAAATH.
@teelwritingediting1949
@teelwritingediting1949 4 жыл бұрын
@@alizeica519 What are you laughing about? That's a thing.
@CantDraw-bq6pj
@CantDraw-bq6pj 4 жыл бұрын
In the opening number to Beetlejuice, while they're singing about how it's a show about death, the chorus sings the phrase "Dies Irae." I finally understand it now 😂
@Some_sort_of_trash
@Some_sort_of_trash 3 жыл бұрын
Same thing with Bells of Notre Dame in the Hunchback of Notre Dame, now that I think about it.
@AcmeMonkeyCompany
@AcmeMonkeyCompany 3 жыл бұрын
*Holding sardine "At last! My arm is complete again. >:D"
@lindadeyounge3275
@lindadeyounge3275 Жыл бұрын
I really loved your take on Lovett and the Madness Motif. I’ve always read that motif as hinting at her manipulation of Sweeney - it seems harmless because it’s in Celeste, but it’s her quiet goading of his madness. She is trying to get her way in this scene and trying to emotionally control Sweeney. In fact, Lovett continues to push him to new heights of madness at each turn. Your videos are so awesome! Thanks for the delicious content!
@devinlong7478
@devinlong7478 Жыл бұрын
I took a survey of theater when I was in college, and my professor showed us this movie. My fondest memory of the experience: Peer: "That was so depressing. Why did we just watch that?" My Professor: "Why?! Because it's only one of the most significant musicals to come out of the 20th century, that's why."
@genecahdaniellemalines288
@genecahdaniellemalines288 4 жыл бұрын
I can't unsee Jack Sparrow, Bellatrix, and Professor Snape
@sweeto57
@sweeto57 4 жыл бұрын
Sweeney Todd, AKA jack sparrow brutally murdering the cast of Harry Potter
@jaschabull2365
@jaschabull2365 4 жыл бұрын
And Wormtail.
@jamiebarrientos9969
@jamiebarrientos9969 4 жыл бұрын
And Jace
@2109917162
@2109917162 4 жыл бұрын
Young Grindelwald, old Grindelwald, wormtail, Belatrix, and Snape
@froggy904
@froggy904 4 жыл бұрын
And Grindelwald x2
@georgehiggins1320
@georgehiggins1320 4 жыл бұрын
My music theory teacher mentioned that she went to school with you and recommended your videos. I thought that was pretty cool.
@cruella4341
@cruella4341 4 жыл бұрын
Sure
@questworldiangreenknight7455
@questworldiangreenknight7455 3 жыл бұрын
This is a strange conversation I've stumbled upon...😂
@nixian_zwaylus
@nixian_zwaylus 3 жыл бұрын
@Ugh it's izzy i think it's just to match the theme of the video.
@somethingelse9087
@somethingelse9087 3 жыл бұрын
@@cruella4341 Imagine having so much of an ego that you don't believe someone else just because it's the internet and you want to be *that* person
@atom8810
@atom8810 3 жыл бұрын
@@cruella4341 answer the damn question
@cupids_favourite_aro4578
@cupids_favourite_aro4578 3 жыл бұрын
Something I noticed while listening to the soundtrack of this film, is that the first few notes of "Johanna" and Toby's song "not while I'm around" are really similar. I think it might be because they're both songs about love: Anthony is in love with Johanna, and Toby loves Mrs. Lovett like a mother. Just something I thought was interesting😁 Love this video!
@PLASMATIER
@PLASMATIER 3 жыл бұрын
"It's in the walls--" Uh-huh. "It's in the streets--" Got it "--it's in the toilet." *SPITS OUT DRINK, WHEEZE*
@movedchannels522
@movedchannels522 4 жыл бұрын
I cracked up when he said that ‘Epiphany’ is the ‘Let it go’ or ‘Defying Gravity’ of Sweeney Todd. I mean, I can’t argue, just thought it was kinda funny
@anneelizabetheasterbrook
@anneelizabetheasterbrook 4 жыл бұрын
steadfast snail Idina Menzel as Sweeney Todd CONFIRMED
@questworldiangreenknight7455
@questworldiangreenknight7455 3 жыл бұрын
steadfast snail 😂😂😂😂
@melodyfussell829
@melodyfussell829 3 жыл бұрын
Johnny Depp is Idina Menzel confirmed
@movedchannels522
@movedchannels522 3 жыл бұрын
Melody Fussell You should know, this reply made me absolutely LOSE IT last night when I was really tired. Funniest thing I'd ever read.
@movedchannels522
@movedchannels522 3 жыл бұрын
@@dontask9728 omg what if I drew that
@rkt7414
@rkt7414 4 жыл бұрын
Whoa it's like, it's like deja vu like I've been here before
@josephbugarin2158
@josephbugarin2158 4 жыл бұрын
NipNip Supreme I think it’s a re-upload
@stolasish1184
@stolasish1184 4 жыл бұрын
Joseph Bugarin i assume they were sarcastic
@jaidadraco
@jaidadraco 4 жыл бұрын
Totally, i saw it in my subscriptions and i was all that seems familiar
@misadate8688
@misadate8688 4 жыл бұрын
like, higher on the street, and, like I know it's my time to go
@danielsjohnson
@danielsjohnson 4 жыл бұрын
@@misadate8688 "yeahhhhhh!" *eurobeat music*
@amandasmith158
@amandasmith158 2 жыл бұрын
I love the pause you do on, "At last my arms are complete again!" because the first time my dad showed me the musical (the Lansbury/Hearn version for my introduction, of course), he had to leave the room for the end of "My Friends" since he can't resist saying that line along with Hearn. I quickly picked up this habit!
@NeverlandSystemPunkGirlChloe
@NeverlandSystemPunkGirlChloe 4 ай бұрын
I LOVE when music is DEEPLY tied to characters and stories and subconsciously lays the foreshadowing in your mind even if you don't notice it without diving into it. Brilliant.
@gracewenzel
@gracewenzel 4 жыл бұрын
My roomate: “New drinking game. Take a shot every time he says Dies Irae.” Me: “And then get your stomach pumped”
@miacolucci6377
@miacolucci6377 3 жыл бұрын
then you start hearing the dies irae
@naomilee3726
@naomilee3726 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a death wish
@amaikarai5007
@amaikarai5007 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who really liked Sweeney's opening line? I thought it really expressed the hatred and disgust he had for London. A gritty, un-trying voice.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 2 жыл бұрын
I mean this channel gets a ton wrong so don't sweat it.
@lucymcnamara4558
@lucymcnamara4558 2 жыл бұрын
I like it, too. I thought he was disgusted/snarky about London, and it was in stark contrast with sunny Anthony 😂
@evechavez1857
@evechavez1857 2 жыл бұрын
I loved that line
@Aisha_Luv
@Aisha_Luv 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucymcnamara4558 I think the accent is a bit awkward...
@ThinWhiteAxe
@ThinWhiteAxe Жыл бұрын
He sounded like David Bowie to me lol
@sylki121
@sylki121 3 жыл бұрын
This helps me understand probably one of the reasons why I thought this story was so obvious. I never realized how much I pay attention to music to figure out a story until now.
@illiteratebastard7421
@illiteratebastard7421 3 жыл бұрын
i always thought that Depp's "not great" singing actually feels right for the story
@jerrythemagicalllama
@jerrythemagicalllama 3 жыл бұрын
(SPOILERS IG) I think the obviously fake blood in the Sweeney Todd movie is good example of something considered tacky becoming charming. If you look for it, in every movie or tv show there is a life force that keeps the characters alive. In Survivor, fire means life. In Star Wars, hope means life. In Sweeney Todd, *blood* means life. The muted blue background underneath the blood FORCES you to stare at the blood. When you see thin, fan-like streams of blood spurting out of Turpin's neck, it more accurately depicts what it would look like if you reached into Turpin's chest and ripped out his soul. Thick, slow, oozing, dark brown blood doesn't have the same effect. If the blood looks realistic, it's just a body starting to decay. If the blood is bright red, so so bright that it hurts to look, it's a *character dying* . Blood means life in Sweeney Todd. Turpin didn't finally die while Mrs. Lovett stamped his hand off her dress. Turpin was DEAD the moment Sweeney raised his blade.
@JackieRompana
@JackieRompana 2 жыл бұрын
ohhh this is a great analysis
@Jemini4228
@Jemini4228 2 жыл бұрын
Biologically speaking arterial blood is pretty bright red due to the fact it is highly oxygenated and is at very high pressure so absolutely would spray out like that. Blood only starts to look brownish red when it dries.
@nataliestruve9736
@nataliestruve9736 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve also heard analysis that its a reference to Hammer horror films that also used over the top, bright red blood again a dark background. It’s supposed to melodramatic and over the top so it also works as a stylistic homage!
@nathanfrancis9376
@nathanfrancis9376 2 жыл бұрын
Also, whereas most people gush blood, Sweeney and Lucy merely have the blood run down their neck, for they're functionally dead already
@sylph8005
@sylph8005 2 жыл бұрын
“The Blood is the life!” - Count Dracula
@actuallyverysoggy
@actuallyverysoggy 4 жыл бұрын
"it's in the walls, it's in the toilet, it's everywhere" **looks at toilet suspiciously** **slowly walks away**
@louisz133
@louisz133 3 жыл бұрын
**looks at toilet** **dies irae starts playing** **panic**
@mr.misfit9514
@mr.misfit9514 3 жыл бұрын
There's an Elvis joke here, but I can't think of anything
@actuallyverysoggy
@actuallyverysoggy 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.misfit9514 me, who doesn't even listen to Elvis: omg I totally agree, what is it? 👀👀👀
@mr.misfit9514
@mr.misfit9514 3 жыл бұрын
@@actuallyverysoggy the king of rock, one of the biggest music sensations ever, inspired johnny bravo, and died on the toilet after overdosing on pills
@actuallyverysoggy
@actuallyverysoggy 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.misfit9514 I know who he is lolol, I just don't listen to his music on the regular
@Best_Stressed
@Best_Stressed 3 ай бұрын
Man I miss Sideways. I just got home from seeing Sweeney Todd on Broadway with Aaron Tveit and Sutton Foster. Tveit was honestly electrifying. Made me think of this video of course.
@sevenm.9631
@sevenm.9631 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this the day after Sondheim died. RIP king you will be missed and your music will live to influence thousands
@zygoncommander1239
@zygoncommander1239 3 жыл бұрын
When I was in my high school pep band, we used to play the deus irae theme at football games when the other team failed at something. Our bleachers faced the back wall of the school, so it bounced around like crazy and sounded huge. It was fun as hell and actually pretty intimidating hearing it from the ground since you couldn’t see where it was coming from once the sun set. Hearing it again always makes me smile a little, though I don’t think that was the artists intent lol
@ginoiminoi
@ginoiminoi 3 жыл бұрын
omygoodness that’s so evil but i love it
@duck2939
@duck2939 3 жыл бұрын
Causally threatening the other team as a psychological attack to win games. That is the true purpose of pep bands!
@cherie..cherry
@cherie..cherry 7 ай бұрын
That’s actually insane 😂😂😂
@TraucerDaUrbania
@TraucerDaUrbania 3 жыл бұрын
Bettlejuice: the musical over there legit just chanting "Dies irae"
@hedge8364
@hedge8364 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit your right, how did I not hear that before...
@switchblade.saints
@switchblade.saints 3 жыл бұрын
exactly what i was thinking lmao
@possums154
@possums154 2 жыл бұрын
Love that
@Dronita42
@Dronita42 Жыл бұрын
exactly! i love how many references to death and musicals you can find in "The Whole "Being Dead" Thing" once you take a closer look at the lyrics (like the direct shout out to "Rodgers, Hart, and Hammerstein here" in the second verse). honestly after listening to beetlejuice sing a whole song about death, hearing what's essentially the musical death chant in between the last few lines of the chorus is just a nice cherry on top XD
@baz7487
@baz7487 3 жыл бұрын
ngl kept seeing this in my recommendeds but I kept putting it off because I didn't want anything spoiled- just my luck youtube made the movie free with ads so I got to watch it last night for the first time and oh man it did not disappoint. loved the video so much, all the effort you put in is incredible
@chaosmastermind
@chaosmastermind 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno man, I thought Sweeney Todd was one of his only roles where he played a different person, and did a good job of it.
@funlover163
@funlover163 2 жыл бұрын
I think the hair certainly helps. But yeah he was so... Dark. Especially if you knew him as Jack Sparrow
@agnessofiacastrocarvalho774
@agnessofiacastrocarvalho774 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, i think of him as really scary and melancholic in this role and in an realistic way. Way different from the "adorable crazy guy" he usually plays
@kemmli
@kemmli 4 жыл бұрын
*pics up guitar* so anyways, here’s Dias Irae...
@LilyGrace95
@LilyGrace95 3 жыл бұрын
In the musical, "the beggar woman" actually has a song called "alms, alms" that's repeated a few times (in the film you hear it when Anthony asks her about Johanna, and it's reprised in "God That's Good"). If you listen carefully, it's got the same music as "Poor Thing". Just a little 'madder'. Sondheim really is a genius, and he completely spoils the entire plot from the get-go 🤣
@Rachel-xg7hs
@Rachel-xg7hs 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly hate Alms, Alms haha. I haven’t seen the theatrical version but I’ve watched the film many times and I hate the thing her voice does. When I listen to the soundtrack it always catches me off guard and it’s so loud when it comes on. I think it was a good move as far as how to do the song for the movie, but I don’t enjoy listening to it for fun haha. It’s even a little scary.
@LilyGrace95
@LilyGrace95 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rachel-xg7hs Yeah, it's a pretty jarring song...
@michealpersicko9531
@michealpersicko9531 2 жыл бұрын
It's supposed to be that way and it's too late at night to explain why it is but it's sondheim and Burton and it wouldn't be that jarring if there wasn't a reason for it.
@chickenfoot2423
@chickenfoot2423 2 жыл бұрын
@@michealpersicko9531 i mean probably just the fact that she lives on the streets as a result of sexual assault trauma is sufficient enough reason. the word ‘alms’ is about justice and compassion, something neither present in her life nor the film, so i suppose singing it in that jarring voice is quite disturbing to an audience who cant show her compassion or give her justice
@AbuHajarAlBugatti
@AbuHajarAlBugatti Жыл бұрын
Spoiling the movie for the few people who care about this stuff. Also the entire movie title "the deadly barbier from fleet street" 'spoils' the plot aswell. The directors didnt care and the viewers knew from the trailer what this movie was about
@Dreigonix
@Dreigonix 2 жыл бұрын
Sondheim really went “I’mma make a whole musical out of the edgy Lick and hope nobody notices.” You could say this is a Shining example of his talent.
@ashtonisvibing
@ashtonisvibing Жыл бұрын
sideways: listen closely, can you hear that? me: is it the dies irae? sideways: it's the dies irae. me: well color me shocked!
@baburik
@baburik 3 жыл бұрын
"It has something to do with Sweeney Todd and Death..." fun fact: Tod means Death in German.
@ginoiminoi
@ginoiminoi 3 жыл бұрын
literally everything from that story is just death😭🤚
@blueshell292
@blueshell292 3 жыл бұрын
Unless this is confirmed, this seems a wee bit far fucking fetched don’t you think
@cranberryrosebud
@cranberryrosebud 3 жыл бұрын
@@blueshell292 it's a fun fact, not a theory
@athen12
@athen12 3 жыл бұрын
@@blueshell292 it's just a funny detail, no one said it was intentional
@athen12
@athen12 3 жыл бұрын
I actually never thought about that, even though I speak german
@jasonzurlo1543
@jasonzurlo1543 4 жыл бұрын
I got an ad for a horror movie in the middle of this and it had the dies irae in it
@cruella4341
@cruella4341 4 жыл бұрын
Which one?
@dmitryboardman9762
@dmitryboardman9762 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite touch is how the tune from "And my Lucy lies in ashes" plays the second he kills the beggar woman, because that's the moment it became true.
@FreakDaMIghet
@FreakDaMIghet 3 жыл бұрын
I just realized that both young and old Grindelwald are in this movie and are friends.
@egobang0716
@egobang0716 3 жыл бұрын
I think the most obvious form of Dies Irae that I've ever noticed is in The Bells of Notre Dame, from The Hunchback of Notre Dame. When Frollo is chasing Quasimodo's mom in the beginning of the movie, the Dies Irae starts playing and the ensemble starts chanting in Latin, with the beginning lyrics actually being "Dies irae, dies illa". And of course, Quasi's mom dies, and when you get to the shot where she's lying on the stone steps of Notre Dame in a puddle of her own blood with Frollo standing over her, the ensemble chants "Dies irae" all over again.
@luiza.limaneves
@luiza.limaneves 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of that too, the part is actually stuck in my mind now lol
@ChristineTheHippie
@ChristineTheHippie 2 жыл бұрын
And it plays again when he's chasing Quasimodo and Esmeralda right before he dies
@owlgirl1998
@owlgirl1998 2 жыл бұрын
The use of the dies irae and Latin in hunchback makes me foam at the mouth its so good
@Baider808
@Baider808 2 жыл бұрын
Plus everytime "Kyria eleison" is referenced either in the score or sung by the Greek choir. It's perfect everytime it's used
@Ana_Ng
@Ana_Ng Жыл бұрын
i found a fan edit of hunchback recently where someone had cut out all the gargoyles. there's a couple of times where it's a little jarring ("dear boy, whomever are you talking to?"), but overall it's such a relief to be able to watch it without constantly getting tonal whiplash. it's a great film!
@lazulidrawzalot0616
@lazulidrawzalot0616 3 жыл бұрын
The interesting thing about Johanna’s theme being a derivative of the Dies Irae despite death not being tied to her in the movie adaptation is that it kind of tricks you into thinking Todd is going to kill her if you don’t know the story before you watch the film.
@rileyabeles4972
@rileyabeles4972 3 жыл бұрын
The first time I watched the movie I was convinced he was going to kill her!
@cassandramurfitt4356
@cassandramurfitt4356 3 жыл бұрын
She would have been dead if Mrs Lovett hadn't screamed
@roninjoey
@roninjoey 2 жыл бұрын
Of course, also, someday, she will die.
@kensurrency2564
@kensurrency2564 2 жыл бұрын
@@rileyabeles4972 yes me too, I thought he was going to kill her accidentally
@dragoneye2874
@dragoneye2874 Жыл бұрын
Steven Sondheim was a once in a generation genius and this video just goes to show how brilliant he is, may his memory be a blessing
@wileatsglass
@wileatsglass 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to sideways rant about my favourite musical is actually really good for painting.
@yerabbit6333
@yerabbit6333 4 жыл бұрын
if you listen REALLY hard, you can hear the wine bottle rolling under the seats.
@bradyfiscus4723
@bradyfiscus4723 4 жыл бұрын
ye rabbit nooooooo. I hate that episode
@exosvocals2526
@exosvocals2526 4 жыл бұрын
Lmaooooo😂
@blackpowerdiva4958
@blackpowerdiva4958 3 жыл бұрын
THIS COMMENT!!!! 🤩🤩🤣🤣🤣🤣 In my Top 5 fav episodes!!!!! #michaelScottPaperCompany 🤪
@blackpowerdiva4958
@blackpowerdiva4958 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@brendenmitchell1657
@brendenmitchell1657 3 жыл бұрын
Andy deserved better smh
@paulabagur2856
@paulabagur2856 4 жыл бұрын
About Dies Irae: I'm getting HUGE "Hellfire" vibes from the Hunchback of Notre Dame: "hellfire, dark fire, now gypy it's your turn, choose me or your pyre, be mine or you will burn!" It would also make sense for the Dies Irae motif to be Frollo's theme since he is heavily involved in death, danger and religious elements.
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean 4 жыл бұрын
You are correct. It's definitely there. It's also in Quasimodo's theme, just listen to the first notes of "the Bells of Notre Dame".
@Warmishcookies
@Warmishcookies 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I stumbled upon this comment. I wish he’d do a video about Disney’s Hunchback specifically.
@inbach
@inbach 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Hellfire quotes the catholic mass. At the end of the song, the choir sings "kyrie eleison" which is the first verse of the mass. They also answer him in Latin, when he sings "it's not my fault, it's god's plan", they answer back "Mea culpa", which translated to "it's my fault"
@amiefortman7220
@amiefortman7220 4 жыл бұрын
The "Dies Irae" lyrics actually show up in "The Bells of Notre Dame" while Frollo is chasing Quasimodo's mother through the streets to the cathedral. And then another part of them show up during the hunt for Esmeralda. And what's really genius about the leadup to "Hellfire" is that it not only quotes the Catholic Mass, it quotes a Confessional ("Confiteor Deo Omnipotenti"), which leads directly into Frollo telling us about his lust for Esmeralda. It's just a brilliant score, honestly.
@michaelwilliamybarra2409
@michaelwilliamybarra2409 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of "Hellfire", there's actually another song from the original show that if not bearing resemblance to "Hellfire", sure as hell(badum tssss) inspired it. It's Judge Turpin's song to Johanna(often called "Johanna(Judge)" or "Johanna(Mea Culpa)", and it's basically Turpin lusting after Johanna through a keyhole while whipping himself from his religiously intoned guilt, while masturbating to orgasm, ending with him ultimately deciding to marry Johanna so she would "deliver" him from evil(which equates to giving him a handjob if the last lyrics are concerned). It was Sondheim wanting to write a song centered on a building orgasm, that was ultimately cut from the original Broadway production during previews, both for how disturbing it was and for it arguably taking too much time in the show's run. Sondheim was mad at this, and insisted that the song AT LEAST be on the original cast recording(performed AMAZINGLY with the original orchestrations by Sondheim's frequent orchestrator Jonathan Tunick(who also expanded his original orchestrations for this movie, as well as for Into The Woods(both the original show and the film)), and by the original Judge Turpin himself(as well as the original Cinderella's Father in the original cast of Into The Woods), Edmund Lyndeck!), be published in the officially licensed score for the show, and it ultimately wouldn't be until later productions and Concerts that the song would soon be regularly performed! It's very twisted and gives a VERY revealing look at Judge Turpin's tormented character. An overly pious man who can't make himself affectively let go of the insatiable lust that led him to send an innocent barber away to rape his wife(the guilt ridden face Alan Rickman has during "Poor Thing" before he pounces on Lucy really struck me when I saw the movie for the first time), and is now focussing him on the wife's girl whom he's raised since she was a baby. On the surface, he may not seem all that bothered by his own monstrousness(unlike Beadle Bamford, who would otherwise derive sick sadistic pleasure from it, as far as the movie's concerned), but with this song you really get a fuller picture of a corrupt beast who makes himself both aware and unaware of the damage he's caused for his own sexual gain, until the bitter end when sees too late that the same man he wronged has come back to get him. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3aYho2ciNSbftk
@davidsigalow7349
@davidsigalow7349 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining why even the orchestrations are creepy and intended to generate anxiety within the audience. As an aside, supposedly, Tim Burton had Christopher Lee sing "The Ballad of Sweeney Todd," but chose to not use. Hopefully, it will surface someday.
@Jaytaxman
@Jaytaxman 2 жыл бұрын
I get so frustrated when these online reviewers metaphorically fellatiate these artists and composers on how brilliant they are and all the so-called intention they have, and I just wonder, 'when is a rose just a rose,' and these guys are just good artists and we're likely just breathing meaning and purpose into a chaotic space. . . That is typically my thought process so thank you so much for sharing the part at 13:04 where he goes through his artistic process showing that he is actually that talented and does make considerations for all of these things. Thank you so much for making me realize how little I actually understand about the creative space and shaking me from this Dunning-Kruger effect. Thank you for just not telling me about his process but showing me.
@lynsky9172
@lynsky9172 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite fun fact about this version of Sweeney Todd is that there are so many actors from harry potter also in this and most of them are bad guys in harry potter
@sametheus
@sametheus 3 жыл бұрын
i'm so happy i'm not the only one that noticed that
@Anon-qp3kt
@Anon-qp3kt 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't see Borat in Harry Potter
@dumbass9049
@dumbass9049 3 жыл бұрын
if only we had sweeney todd in harry potter somehow also
@theflyingspaget
@theflyingspaget 3 жыл бұрын
@@dumbass9049 If this isn't sarcasm, Johnny plays Gellart Grindelwald so...
@awkwardyoshi6979
@awkwardyoshi6979 3 жыл бұрын
When both sweeney and anthony are Grindelwald O.o
@rkjs7615
@rkjs7615 4 жыл бұрын
“So..........this is Sweeney.” This is a mood all in its self
@blueshell292
@blueshell292 3 жыл бұрын
The sentence is said like introducing your bastard pet that you love deeply
@dominicmazenko9490
@dominicmazenko9490 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love how you deconstruct everything. You play into the psychology of why the music is what it is. Very interesting. As a music education major in college i definitely see how everything works. It just awesome to have some explain it in an very entertaining way. (Haha if only all my professors were as captivating as you)
@ashlynsheesley5377
@ashlynsheesley5377 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen this movie probably over a hundred times. I’m a theatre student as well as a choir student in college and this has always been one of my favorite musicals/films. The way you’ve opened it up and gutted every detail and analyzed the entire thing is absolutely amazing to me and incredibly eye opening in terms of music and meaning and everything that makes musicals so amazing. Well done, sir.
@danielf3623
@danielf3623 4 жыл бұрын
Funny how the Dies Irae spoiled a plot point in Frozen 2 as well. And I caught while watching it thanks to the original upload of this video!
@Phoe8D
@Phoe8D 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel F oh... when was it? 🙈
@danielf3623
@danielf3623 4 жыл бұрын
@@Phoe8D The leitmotif Elsa keeps hearing is the first four notes of the Dies Irae - and it's her dead mother.
@Phoe8D
@Phoe8D 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel F omg 🙈 you’re a genius
@TheIslingtonAngel
@TheIslingtonAngel 4 жыл бұрын
holy crap i never realised that omgg
@PointyTooth
@PointyTooth 4 жыл бұрын
HOLY CRAP I JUST GOT OUT OF THE THEATER AND I’M LEARNING THIS NOW ??
@TheToneBender
@TheToneBender 4 жыл бұрын
Guess I won't ever be able to not notice that Dies Irae thing now, just like the Wilhelm scream Edit: Now, a year+ later, I was watching Clone Wars and I freaking heard it!
@Larissa-sd8uk
@Larissa-sd8uk 3 жыл бұрын
I KNOW RIGHT?!?! I can’t stand hearing the scream anymore it sounds so obvious and cheesy but that’s definitely just because I hear it EVERY TIME
@silverowlcity4373
@silverowlcity4373 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t explain the Wilhem Scream, but I know it when I hear it
@aaronphillips402
@aaronphillips402 3 жыл бұрын
@@silverowlcity4373 AAaahhhhuhhhhaaaa
@silverowlcity4373
@silverowlcity4373 3 жыл бұрын
Aaron Phillips I heard this. Don’t ask how but a certain scene from Star Wars just popped into my head at the sight of this comment and fight mode has been activated
@KuraIthys
@KuraIthys 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that wilhelm scream... After a while I started hearing it in the weirdest places, and you just get to... 'oh, there it is again. great''. XD
@abeautifulmess6687
@abeautifulmess6687 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody here already mentioned it, I think, that 'Tod' is a word for death in German... So I looked into his first name's possible meanings. Sweeney is likely derived from the Gaelic 'Mac Suibhne' meaning 'son of Suibhne' and Suibhne means 'pleasant/well-disposed' and was related to the old Norse name 'Sveinn', meaning "boy/servant". And in the US, Sweeney itself (the Surname) is possibly an Americanization of the french surname 'Choinère', which is derived from 'choin', meaning White, and originated as an occupational name for a.... wait for it........ /Baker./ So... His name can, in fact, be translated as 'Servant of Death'. You can't tell me that Sondheim didn't do this intentionally. He has far too much attention to minute details to not do it intentionally. And that makes me fall in love with this musical even more.
@SanjayMerchant
@SanjayMerchant Жыл бұрын
Er, Sondheim can't claim credit for that one. The first Sweeney Todd story was published in 1846-47.
@frankkronyak4281
@frankkronyak4281 Жыл бұрын
Sondheim didn't create the name 'Sweeney Todd'. It's an old British legend.
@AWlpsSHOW36
@AWlpsSHOW36 8 ай бұрын
That wasn’t Soundheim who invented Sweeney’s name. Sweeney Todd was around during the Victorian Era. The story was originally a Penny Dreadful story.
@ace-smith
@ace-smith 22 күн бұрын
german, gaelic, and french? if i were inventing a metaphor name i'd stick with one language so people who interpreted it didn't sound like they were reaching super hard
@FurikoMaru
@FurikoMaru Жыл бұрын
I was honestly astounded that you made a Dies Irae montage and left out the opening music of The Shining.
@FurikoMaru
@FurikoMaru Жыл бұрын
Also the half-assedness is the point of that first line, it's meant to convey that he's almost out of fucks. If he sang it properly he'd ruin it.
@gianinamorales8597
@gianinamorales8597 4 жыл бұрын
"Once Upon A Time, there was a guy called Jesus. And he DIED." Thank you. Subscribing. Also, no shit, I'm pretty sure I was named after the Dies Irae.
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 4 жыл бұрын
Ever notice the Christmas carol "Carol of the Bells" has the Dies Irae repeated over and over?
@gianinamorales8597
@gianinamorales8597 4 жыл бұрын
@@RaymondHng Learned that for Choral... But holy crap 😳😅😂
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 4 жыл бұрын
@@gianinamorales8597 No wonder "Carol of the Bells" sounded so unsettling and disturbing. "Why this creepy melody is in so many movies" kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2SQk4mIjrehia8
@maks7355
@maks7355 4 жыл бұрын
@@RaymondHng I always wondered why I found it so ominous and badass lmao
@kp4692
@kp4692 4 жыл бұрын
RaymondHng so thaaatss why it sounds so creepy
@Crick1952
@Crick1952 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine this being your first Sideways video
@littlefootncera5285
@littlefootncera5285 4 жыл бұрын
lol it was
@deadrunable
@deadrunable 4 жыл бұрын
It was mine I insta subscribed back when this was first posted. I Stan.
@Crick1952
@Crick1952 4 жыл бұрын
Both of y'all have begun a wonderful journey. I highly recommend you watch his entire back catalog. It's so worth it
@404usernotfound_
@404usernotfound_ 4 жыл бұрын
This is my second and I feel like my brain is melting
@roswellgrey2115
@roswellgrey2115 4 жыл бұрын
It was
@aliciab.6849
@aliciab.6849 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is a gem. Can’t wait to binge all your videos
@matthewiskwejeicam9559
@matthewiskwejeicam9559 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Amazing video. I've never been interested in the background, thought and subtleties that goes into creating music until I watched this video. I'm even going to donate to the Patreon because I appreciate this content so much. Great job.
@hacim42
@hacim42 4 жыл бұрын
(might as well comment it again now the old video died) Sideways: A good score, is a- Viewers: is a culmination of leitmotifs. Sideways: is a culmination of- yes! Precisely! It only works if all the little themes mesh together!
@bluecat3338
@bluecat3338 4 жыл бұрын
Hacim 42 - This is the funniest thing I’ve seen all week.
@FilmScoreandMore
@FilmScoreandMore 4 жыл бұрын
Now, leitmotifs need to be cleaned, lubricated, and wound tight. You know what I mean by a culmination of leitmotifs?
@deadrunable
@deadrunable 4 жыл бұрын
Fave comment thanks for reposting!
@katestavridi5193
@katestavridi5193 4 жыл бұрын
Who is the guy on your profile picture I see him everywhere on the internet
@hacim42
@hacim42 4 жыл бұрын
@@katestavridi5193 JonTron
@PhileasLiebmann
@PhileasLiebmann 3 жыл бұрын
Wait. It's all the Dies Irae? Sondheim: Always has been.
@ydgames4291
@ydgames4291 2 жыл бұрын
*slits throat
@darinaprstmmprhdl6975
@darinaprstmmprhdl6975 2 жыл бұрын
Found this channel yesterday, burning through it, such amazing reviews, my heart is in pieces.
@theboogeyman2590
@theboogeyman2590 3 ай бұрын
I wish id known abt your channel when I was studying for my music history and music theory exams, learning the concepts with smth im familiar with and interested in makes them so much more comprehensible
@xTunafishx
@xTunafishx 4 жыл бұрын
So, let me get this straight: Sweeney Todd's score is inspired by the Dies Irae?
@emhu2594
@emhu2594 4 жыл бұрын
i didn't notice any mention of that.
@krisdeltarun
@krisdeltarun 4 жыл бұрын
Basically, yeah
@saltoftheegg
@saltoftheegg 3 жыл бұрын
22 minutes of it
@wyvernscale9634
@wyvernscale9634 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm could be
@squirtfan3184
@squirtfan3184 3 жыл бұрын
no i don't think so
@kevinwilson3609
@kevinwilson3609 3 жыл бұрын
Sondheim loved this movie, and helped to or at least approved the cuts. He understands that media are different. This is the best movie musical of the last 50 years.
@StoryMing
@StoryMing 3 жыл бұрын
Okay; but, I still like the stage version with George Hearn and Angela Lansbury best...
@pipermeh3350
@pipermeh3350 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite adaption but I also love the stage version and the movie version of Into the Woods.
@dkf315
@dkf315 2 жыл бұрын
What about Chicago?
@lydiavalentino
@lydiavalentino 2 жыл бұрын
I saw West Side Story (2021) pretty recently. NOT ANYMORE
@derpoblizist9076
@derpoblizist9076 Жыл бұрын
I was going to say what about west side story, but it’s already older than 50 years, so you’re correct!
@LoucheWoman
@LoucheWoman 2 жыл бұрын
Queuing to watch this once I've finished the Cats video, because halfway through your Cats I NEEDED to hear what you have to say about the film version of Sweeney Todd. The Angela Lansbury/Lou Cariou production is the musical of all musicals that I will fight for, and I had the great joy of seeing Imelda Staunton in the 2011 London production. I tried to watch the film version and couldn't get past the musical butchery (heh) in The Best Pies In London. Edit after watching: Okay, a lovely piece on the awesomeness of Sondheim, but damnit, the film deserves a proper skewering!
@concernedcitizen6313
@concernedcitizen6313 Жыл бұрын
I miss your channel, man. These deep-dives are incredible!
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