How the New HOI4 DLC Secretly FIXED Single Player

[@balkan-cowboy]

Thanks for all the support, everyone, this is becoming my most viral video! Also sorry for the audio, I will do better next time, just wanted to get this out fast.

[@lefthand4943]

Bro hoi4 came out 8 years ago and they are ficing bugs so slow but the mods that fixes these stuffs always get broken because of new updates.

[@THEARDUOUSMOTH]

is this just for the DLC, or is the new AI in the base game?

[@balkan-cowboy]

I am not sure for that one, but I know they included the new historical focuses for Germany for free. I mean paradox didn't consider this a big feature, so I think it should be included

[@THEARDUOUSMOTH]

@@balkan-cowboy thank you for answering so quickly! Many KZbinrs never answer my questions ^_^

[@deluxehipster8714]

The AI baited me into a naval invasion of uk then brought 80 divisions north of liverpool, my 36 belgian divisions were not it.

[@lovelylavenderr]

I'm glad this wasn't just me, I flopped my first few times trying to Sealion the UK in my historical Germany game.

[@Nickoteen0]

I'd rather fight against the Soviet Union first and then widow England. as it was historically. I hope that Japan AI can employ the USA better. I think it's good that GB is stronger!

[@Finn_the_Cat]

I managed to pull operation Seelowe with Paratroopers, I landed like 50 some of them in sothern England, the first attempt was only 13 or so and It failed miserably. I had done combat insertion so their org would take a hit. I had swept any air force over Britain off but the problem was the American airforce was still powerful and the 13 original that tried got them to pull their airforce out and while my fighters were more than enough to beat them my Cas couldn't do it's job properly and we got pushed out. Anyway after landing and capturing portsmouth dover and ipswich in the north i sent one army to each pocket I had made, the north and the south. Well eventually the north in ipswich got cut off and taken out but the south in Dover managed to hold out and thankfully cas damage had gotten better and the fact they just kept attacking and attacking meant that eventually they ran out of equipment so we could push them out finally capitulating them

[@ArariaKAgelessTraveller]

I had to have all the things i need to sealion UK Naval bombarment check 99% Air supremacy check Marine with All Good support check And It's not UK that I worried about It's the US Calvary Divisions.... They stack tons of them on EVERY port

[@JoeBurner1720]

"you have to paradoxically look at a development diary" nice

[@Asic229]

The development diary is called small features lol. That's why it's paradoxical

[@garrettredding2837]

@@Asic229 maybe that's why they're called paradox interactive...

[@denishrg9843]

She gotter on my dammerung

[@Notwoodcrawler]

She gotter on my damme till I rung

[@Monkeyman-pt6gs]

no, you got it all wrong. She gotter on my damm until i erung

[@dripmaestrolxix4228]

gyatterdammerung

[@boxcarz]

'Till you endsieg?

[@MrBrockHeinz]

I've noticed that the AI has its "hotspots" where it decides that it should put all its units in. After making serious progress in one area, it will just abandon it and invest in another area, undoing all the previously done hard work. I saw the Allies take out Italy, only to get bored when they reached Milan, then attack Iberia instead, leaving the Axis to bring back an undefended Italy.

[@command_unit7792]

I mean that is kinda realistic to a degree

[@dulguunjargal1199]

I saw Italy singlehandedly rush the British and take El-alamein and was forcing the british to be on edge with constant naval invasions on Malta but then they immediately abandoned the Africa front to go somewhere else? Like the African front was the ONLY front Italy was actually fighting a Country in and they moved all of their divisions out of africa. I put rommel and his 4 medium tank divs on it and got to cario before the italians returned and rush the front.

[@49thNap]

"If I have no idea what I'm doing. Then neither will the enemy. " - Sun Tzu

[@SaberRattlerII]

I think it's about the number of dudes on a front I already tricked french ai by placing only 9 divs on Maginot and then rushed it with heavy tanks, at first I had 96 divs on Maginot line then I out them in Netherlands the ai reacted by abandoning the Maginot even leaving an open tile, after that I pounced on em and won

[@thejam6.6memes48]

dude, the soviets need to get buffed. They consistently underperform and cant even upkeep their number of divisions. I understand they are going to take a lot of losses - but these losses should at least be replaced

[@Lleesstreett]

I don't think that's easy to fix honestly. I've noticed in my 1000+ hours that the AI cannot or has serious trouble rebuilding armies after crushing defeats. If the AI takes around 40% casualties army wide they will never recover unless given help from the player or allies. In real life the soviet army rebuilt itself multiple times over. This is most obvious in the Soviets case because they will usually always take upwards of that amount of damage in the first year of the German invasion. Then what usually happens is the dumb German AI cannot fix its supply issues and cannot advance and the soviets sit at about 100-200 half strength divisions for the rest of the game.

[@vittoriovenetov9655]

@@Lleesstreett Its cause the soviet AI is dumb as hell and wastes all of its production trying to build Anti tank and artillery and the soviet ai isnt able to get nearly as much mils as a player. If they would make the soviet ai more economically competent and stop it from reasearching and investing in AT then it would be fine

[@thejam6.6memes48]

@@Lleesstreett i also know that the soviet -ai (and ai in general, but specifically soviets) usually... don't have enough pp to do a successful scorched earth or evac of industry -don't do factory conversions to mils, or if they do its very little because for the soviets, theyre worse than a regular ai becuase most of their industry ends up occupied, and they cant replace those industrial losses

[@Mmjk_12]

@@Lleesstreettthe issue is that USA is dogshit nation, they should be lend leasing like irl but they don’t… by 1942 they’ll have like 70 mils

[@mattwalker5689]

@@LleesstreettExactly. I haven’t seen the soviets actually win the race to Berlin in years. They always sit a bit past Moscow fighting starving Germans until the allies are already in Germany proper.

[@Mmjk_12]

I’ve noticed UK seems to actually defend itself from para drops and naval invasions now lmao

[@gottwyCZ]

Yes, I was unable to get them after the patch in my first game. Before it was easy.

[@rcpwProductions]

i sent too many poor soldiers to their deaths in the port of dover hoping that my old strategy would work

[@_DutchRaptorX_]

I played as USA and heavily underestimated the British defences, portable harbours may actually be needed now for stuff like D-day or attacking Japan

[@linoshcaalomar3951]

"France put 80% of its army on the Maginot and had nothing to defend Germany when it broke through Belgium" Isn't that just historical? Sure, the details are different, but. . .

[@balkan-cowboy]

Not really, the Germans broke through the Ardennes and encircled both the Brits and a big part of the French army in Belgium. In the current patch, Frenchies don't wanna even try and are coasting on the Maginot, lol. I mean sure, they were a speed bump, but currently, they are a highway :S

[@yt_geezuz785]

No it is NOT historical. 70-80% of the French Army deployed to Belgium to hold the German advance there, they even did well there as seen in the battle of Hannut and Gembloux. They need to adjust French AI to rush to Belgium as it did historically, and leave just enough in the Maginot, about one army worth of divisions. I think the problem here is the French AI sees the German border and invests too much divisions there and abandons the border with Belgium since Belgium isn't a threat.

[@Chosen_Ash]

⁠@@yt_geezuz785but then for a player its extremely easy to just destroy the maginot

[@Elenrai]

The BEF and best French divisions were on the French-Belgian border on standby, the moment the invasion of Belgium happened, these forces moved into Belgium. Refugees clogged the roads, there was no good coordination between Belgian and Allied forces, it was a mess. And then the Panzers said "Morgen :)" and then you got the Dunquik shitshow, that is in large part why the French were in such a state when those divisions got encircled, that WAS the reserve, that force was their reserves+advantage in fielded divisions, the instant it was encircled France was pretty much done for, honestly it smacks of Napoleon III getting his ass kicked

[@ChibiNyan]

@@balkan-cowboy There is good reason for that : game mechanics. It's extremely hard to pierce a single point through the Ardennes and encircle Belgium : The Ardennes are easy to defend against tanks, and the supply mechanics will stop you before the coast. Plus, you are extremely vulnerable to counter-encirclement in the meantime. What you are supposed to do as Germany, is conquer the Netherlands, capitulate Belgium through the northern flemish plains, then rush down France while it's repositioning. That's what make sense game-wise. Therefore, to facilitate that, France is programmed to not garrison the Belgian border, and will only come there once Germany conquers the border provinces. If the game blitzkrieg succeeds, the French and BEF gets encircled. Sure, the encirclement doesn't happen at the right position (Maginot instead of Belgium), but it's close enough and it works well in-game.

[@blahmaster6k]

This is a really neat comparison! If you want to inspect the AI a bit more, you could also select to play as Germany and turn on "human_ai" in the console. This will let you see the battle plans the AI is using and which units are assigned to its spearheads. If you specifically want to check how the AI is using AIFC, you can use the command "imgui show ai_force_concentration" to pull up a little UI that displays the AI's target selection, that's what you can see in the dev stream.

[@CuentaQueNoDebeDeExistir]

Fuck, now the AI play better HOI4 than me...

[@e.corellius4495]

unironically, you will get better if you just watch some multiplayer games and emulate a bit. at the very least, emulating the average multiplayers will make you better than all but like 2 of the single player hoi4 streamers lol

[@dulguunjargal1199]

I cant sealion because britain deathstacked their navy and now its impossible to fight them without dying.

[@Ariel1039]

simple, don't battleplan everything if the enemy got 3+ division on each border and only battleplan when they couldnt afford to reinforce the borders

[@Verpal]

@@dulguunjargal1199 I only managed to Sealion by taking French Navy and Italian just happened to run into the channel, but even then the opportunity for invasion is only momentary, and Brits swiftly retook the channel after Axis navy suffer massive loss. It is tough to keep the landing force alive too, since UK actually commit to homeisle defense, to the point that I think it is actually better to focus on dealing with Soviet first before trying to Sealion.

[@aight4494]

main problem with ai is surprise attacks against it they have little to no reaction when they get attacked while fighting someone else making it easy to beat them turning off historical mode is the best example for surprise attacks being too deadly

[@cantree2574]

The greatest improvement is that Sealion is actually hard now. Did it with paratroopers and also naval invasions with historical Germany but was pushed back every time. The UK always consistently rushed an entire army to the beach head before the rest of my army could re-org from getting transported and I would always get pushed out.

[@roemischer]

Yeah, tell that to the Italien AI that got naval invaded in 1940 in my first Germany game.

[@tylerredforge5563]

the first thing i noticed was when i was playing germany is that the soviets actually put up a fight

[@MartinGenerations]

I played a little of Germany, through civil war. I expected an usual and undeniable victory from my side... But then my opponent snaked through my weakest defences and took Frankfurt. 😶

[@dulguunjargal1199]

In my Germany run I was stunned to see Poland trying to take east prussia to make a smaller front and even more suprised that norway was actually taking the naval invasion seriously! Infact they were putting Anti tank in their divs to counter my tanks!! I still defeated them ofc but it was much harder than just clicking a battleplan to kill them. The british also have competent naval plans and actually deathstack their navies now to destroy my subs I'm currently preping to barborossa and I do indeed have begun fearing the soviets now

[@MurathanSaipKays]

Soviets are about to go; Если на Отчизну нагрянет беда, Позовёт солдата труба. Армия моя, ты на страже всегда! Ты - моя любовь и судьба! Обыкновенная, судьба нелёгкая военная. Любовь суровая, но верная. Готовы мы на ратный труд. Мы все испытаны ни раз, ни два боями-маршами. Мы от солдата и до маршала - одна семья! Наш Октябрь с нами в походном строю! С нами песни красных бойцов, Первый день войны, и победный салют, И судьба погибших отцов… Мчатся наши годы, Но жизнь молода! И поёт как прежде труба. Армия моя, ты на страже всегда! Ты - моя любовь и судьба!

[@Sengyizhe]

I'm not going to lie. I play the ww2 simulator like it's a ww1 similar and have way more fun. I judt like to draw lines and see my generic infantry go forward.

[@bachtruongson9408]

why does this man's voice sound like an AI💀

[@vittoriovenetov9655]

It is an ai

[@cristianalbert6389]

Hoi4 Ai is so good that it makes youtube videos.

[@gforce95vn]

Welcome back, here's another AI Doozy when you play as Germany... Super Heavy Railway Gun + armored support engineer + flame tanks, all from projects, plus Fortress Buster + Engineer traits, and the optional Heavy Tank from Treaty With USSR research rush, meant Germany can freaking reliably knock down an AI France's Marginot line. Even if i tag into FRA and create fallback lines with all their mainland europe troops. Danzig or War can wait, because we're going to Paris first! I left the war goal on Poland expired with basically no downside, and then use manual justification on core territory for 10 days. I capped France and UK with the Benelux still alive (but shellshocked from seeing Tigers rolling in early 1940). This is busted.

[@balkan-cowboy]

Good to see you on the interwebs, friend! They have some tech balancing to do for sure, I will dive into special projects soon to see what's up. So far I'm hearing you can research everything way too early, but it shouldn't be too hard to balance eventually.

[@Joinedo]

In my first historical Germany playthrough after the update France broke through a weak spot in my West Wall defenses and snaked through half of Germany without me noticing because I was busy with Poland

[@balkan-cowboy]

Yep, I suspect this is what they tried to do in my tests too, it's just that the Germans held them in battle and then invaded through Belgium

[@topphatt1312]

Put some furniture in your room dude that echo is killing me.

[@125discipline2]

it doesnt matter how good the dev make the AI, my paratroopers will take paris

[@freetime5803]

Had a feeling the devs would have forgotten about improving the AI when defending.

[@gaodust]

now gotta wait a year for defensive AI update

[@lalad0]

I've played Germany on this patch and i've had the reverse issue: France was very unexpectedly strong: they had 165 divisions in September 39.... Still shit planes and cas so they got grinded outbug they definitely got me stuck in the Ardennes for a bit because of their 10 divisions per tile

[@_DutchRaptorX_]

France focusing its entire army on the Maginot is just a big brain move by the French HQ. My friend was playing as Germany and attacked the Czechs, going to war with France because of that. While he was focused on the Czechs, the French pushed into the Rhineland, and soon the Czechs pushed aswell, causing him to almost cap completely

[@sweetlemonade123]

Does AI also get updated in the vanilla game, or do I need to purchase the dlc for this to work?

[@Alfonse-dm6ht]

Hmmm Its Better If You Read The Diary If No One Comments Here

[@yt_geezuz785]

I wonder if we can adjust how much the AI concentrates its forces. Germany SHOULD be at the higher end of concentration (more concentrated) and no, German spearheads easily encircled IS NOT the AI being dumb, it's how it was IRL - the soviets are just inexperienced and too weak in 1941 to take advantage of that except in few cases. Recall how von Kleist's ENTIRE PANZER-ARMEE got almost encircled in Rostov, and that's like November 1941. Then there's the massive soviet counter-attack in December 1941 that threatened to encircled the entire Army Group Centre, but it ran out of steam early.

[@DreerKarler]

according to the dev diary it depends on the doctorine.

[@mrsovosipuh]

Also Britain now keeps divisions in metropole, so See Lion won’t be so easy now

[@pujanshah7868]

Soviet union is still too weak like shouldn’t the military buildup be the opposite with the Soviets increasing their military rather than the Germans?

[@shironee_2384]

For the Maginot problem, that might be caused by the AI still treating friendly neutral country as a lower threat than the direct frontline to enemies, causing France to be unprepared for defending Benelux front. IIRC, they're adding a focus in the new Belgium tree which it change the behaviour for Allies AI to rush into defending Belgium should they're being attacked, maybe this isn't work properly for now. Not to mention that the German are still declaring war on Benelux one-by-one. For the Soviet defender, it seems that they're using the same new AI behaviour so that they're putting their concentration troops as they're going offensive, putting their troops at the wrong place when defending.

[@Geferulf_TAS]

This has broken and ruined my 2 German playthrough attempts so far. My units just fart off from the battles of their lines and stack up by the dozens on singular tiles

[@crunch.dot.73]

this change does not effect the player's force concentration, you may need to fix your frontlines more often. Try deleting your combat frontlines and then make new ones to fix it

[@balkan-cowboy]

@@Geferulf_TAS The developers say the ai force concentration only applies to ai countries, could be a bug but shouldn't be happening

[@WarMaster168]

i had many playthroughs with germany. soviet union now is harder than before

[@zappky9408]

With the latest patch, in all 3 of my playthrough as Italy, Soviet is beating Germany all the time in my playthrough. Germany keeps falling around 1944/1945. I can hold back Allies with all the naval bomber and submarine, but I cannot save Germany from Soviets which could not be starved. It is always the Soviet that gets to Berlin first This latest patch definitely made Soviet much stronger now.

[@lucianraphael9527]

Historically accurate fall date

[@dolitebalcon854]

4:51 ain’t no way Germany performed better without you donating military Units bro was holding Germany back 💀

[@budibasabasik]

Finally, fallback lines + startegic redeployment tactic will be useful in singleplayer!

[@RobloxTF2_Sniper]

While I was playing as austria, the germans launched the attack on the soviet union and they focused all their forces on smoleńsk which caused a rather funny looking frontline, later they got encircled, after I joined the war.

[@Swagmaster07]

Doesn't Expert AI Also do this + other improvements? Or is it just stat buffs?

[@balkan-cowboy]

Nope, expert AI mostly relies on stat buffs, division spawning, and (I think) making more optimized divisions. Modders never had, and still don't, have access to alter AI behavior. Therefore, Expert AI and similar mods are going to get even more difficult now. Or maybe they won't need to add so much stat buffs etc., which is why this change is huge.

[@Wiktr0]

Isn't his voice ai generated? The "them" sounds pretty sus. 11:43

[@VarenvelDarakus]

Yeah generally ai feels better now , me and friend finished Italy and Germany play and UK fought tooth and nail when we invaded , it's great dlc

[@KrabbeYT]

Very nice Video, keep up the good work.

[@ThatoneNoob934]

Deves after seeing this: TURN ALL THE BUDGET TO AI DEVELOPMENT

[@RamonHRE]

i noticed this when i did my operation sealion all of a sudden my whole army got wiped out

[@MetoFulcurm]

AI concentrates forces and now you can encircle more AI divisions.

[@mohamedaminedoumbia8114]

It’s a trade off How would you fix that if you could mod the AI

[@benbowerman1582]

Hoping that AI improvements like this will allow the Soviet AI to make an actual comeback like historical

[@hatless_spider]

Good stuff!

[@afahuiuhgfkdjmsiugmjksdf]

The best part of this DLC is the fact Slovakia has cores at the start

[@loirojose9298]

I didn't think this voice sounded like AI, but it's still suspicious.

[@fthagnryleh4951]

Watch his first video, its either AI or someone else speaking.

[@whitehawk4099]

@@fthagnryleh4951 It's obviously AI generated. You can hear the artifacts in the voice. Look at this point for example: 4:09 "Wehrmat No human being would pronounce this. It was a typo that the AI just read into an incorrect pronunciation.

[@Nickoteen0]

they need more tanks :(

[@Max-sl5wp]

Are the AI changes only coming with the DLC or are they part of the free patch?

[@rzu1474]

The fuck? Paradox: I did it? You: He did it? Us: They did it?

[@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja]

Ah, so that's why Germany wasted 5.5 million men running against my Belgian lv 10 forts in the new DLC.

[@coppercoin1643]

for me the uk forgot to put their navy up for a few days and i defeated the allies in like 1940 😭

[@mariodamian103]

11:43 what was that voice crack lmfao?

[@DeffoSpaniel]

does the AI make good division templates as well? seeing so many AI tank divisions never really struck fear bc they're usually shit

[@kibecawest9867]

Just wondering for future reference but, did you use a command to allow you to see all divisions on the map? And if so what was it?

[@superflyjohnson744]

it's the "fow" or "debug_fow" command

[@kpophater]

british ai is no joke anymore, try to sealion and see how it goes

[@maxxgrumpy]

I really love this game, but it's getting so complicated in research, focus, clicky clicky game, I play to relax, now I have to start to think more than in work... very soon I will retire this game. after 5k hours on hoi4

[@KGmVN]

i came back HOI4 right when new update drop. i was so confuse that i thought it was mod i forgot to turn off

[@wojciechgroblicki3922]

Future is now old man

[@clutrike7956]

AI voice Dead internet theory is not a theory anymore

[@dogeshow2651]

womp womp

[@sPACEmANtYLERSPACE]

people quick to go on the AI voice witch hunt

[@raff4874]

Switzerland of asia would be Bhutan smh

[@EduardoDistassi]

Reverse Switzerland

[@fthagnryleh4951]

The new DLC will make it impossible to play anything except Germany or Soviet Union

[@someonenamedilay7347]

so thats why the soviet ai was competent

[@_Tennessee]

You used to use your voice in videos, why do you use AI now?

[@titanicbigship]

THE AI IS BETTER THEN ME NOW WOMP WOMP

[@mangonango8903]

11:47 that's historically accurate, France put most of their army in the maginol line as they thought it was impenetrable, they also thought that the border with belgum was impassible to tanks. Thats why the french lost irl...

[@kacperixplayer]

They put 80% of their army in Belgium. For what was Maginot line? To shorten front line to borders of Belgium.

[@Skabb-eg4oy]

@@kacperixplayer exactly, idk what this dude was smoking but everything but them thinking tanks wouldnt do well in the forests in belgium was bunk

[@treyflorek8592]

Why do people think this voice is ai

[@DalmatianMapper]

Did croatia get a focus tree it was a former state in habs empire

[@balkan-cowboy]

@@DalmatianMapper MOE SUNCE MOE MORE DALMACIJAAA

[@DalmatianMapper]

@ DALMATINAC SAMMM TU SAM RODJEN JAA PLAVO MORE ZNA DA JE VOLIM JA nego jel hrv dobila focus tree

[@balkan-cowboy]

@@DalmatianMapper Brate, I am not Croatian but I love your country, literally spent the last 2 summers near Makarska. Would possibly move there one day

[@DalmatianMapper]

@ hoo respect

[@DalmatianMapper]

@@balkan-cowboy but did croatia get a focus tree xd

[@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem]

i hate the new ai ill cheat if i lose

[@evictionnotice1155]

AI ahh speech

[@LibertyAnd1776]

What is ahh?

[@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem]

​@@LibertyAnd1776 outdated person you are

[@gadonfire]

it is not AI it is a BOT

[@edvardbenes3114]

damnn