How The Oxford Israel Debate Was Censored | Behind the Scenes with Jonathan Sacerdoti

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@ernestrosenthal7353
@ernestrosenthal7353 Ай бұрын
Clearly Oxford Union has no shame or decency.
@maartenkranendonk8954
@maartenkranendonk8954 26 күн бұрын
neither do you.
@bobobobob2
@bobobobob2 26 күн бұрын
​@@maartenkranendonk8954and why is that?
@maitaimik
@maitaimik 19 күн бұрын
@@maartenkranendonk8954 That is all you can come up with ? Holland is the capital of Euro-Islam. Erasmus would turn in his grave.
@Idontknowwhat2type
@Idontknowwhat2type 18 күн бұрын
I guess amnesty international doesn’t either considering they consider what Israel doing to be a genocide. Crazy people being obnoxious to someone defending genocide
@sofsof4950
@sofsof4950 Ай бұрын
Jonathan you did an amazing job presenting your position there. Thank you for standing up for truth and against evil ❤
@MountainRhode
@MountainRhode Ай бұрын
Full support for Jonathan. What an appalling situation. The collapse of civil debate should be headline news.
@amirelkayam6649
@amirelkayam6649 27 күн бұрын
But that’s what happens when you let filth into your country!🤢🤢🤢
@Rebecca_Sunnybrook_Farm
@Rebecca_Sunnybrook_Farm Ай бұрын
Jonathan and the rest of the team were stellar, not only in the speeches given but in standing strong in the face of such hostility. Bravo!
@Bellaumberella
@Bellaumberella Ай бұрын
Thank you for your hard work ❤❤
@connie.22
@connie.22 Ай бұрын
The pro israel team was amazing!! 2 arabs, 2 jews ❤ the dream team ❤ and a great variety of styles and kinds of speeches.
@ajNKaj
@ajNKaj Ай бұрын
Dreamteam
@gheller2261
@gheller2261 Ай бұрын
I didn't think the Arabs did all that well because they spent too much time yelling. I know it's cultural but both of those men need to learn to tone it down. You want people to listen? Don't yell at them.
@ajNKaj
@ajNKaj Ай бұрын
@ really!! I think they did well and they would not have yelled in less hostile environment. I have followed Mosab for decades and Hadad since then and they are civil in civil set ups. They were replying to their fellow arabs. Dont blame them. Its unbecoming to have had 8 body guards in Oxford!! Oxford. Seat of future leaders. School of brainy, ambitious and future political leaders. Shame on UK and Western world for taking money from nefarious sources and compromising their morals and etiquettes
@ajNKaj
@ajNKaj Ай бұрын
@ its oxford to blame not the ‘two great guys Mosab and Joseph
@connie.22
@connie.22 Ай бұрын
@ajNKaj of course. I was so proud of them.
@JeanBod1111
@JeanBod1111 Ай бұрын
Few months before October 7th i met a professor from England while traveling. She told me one of her classes in university was about the holocaust. after a while she decided to cancel that class because everytime the students would hear a description of jews dying or suffering many would openly express their joy. they we’re enjoying hearing about the suffering and death of jews during the worst genocide in history! Not Zionist oppressors but jews durning a genocide. This kind of behavior has been in England long before the war. And Palestine is and was really an excuse for many to express their jew hate.
@eden3685
@eden3685 Ай бұрын
Wow unbelievable! This is exactly how things like the holocaust happens with all the hate and indoctrination
@resolecca
@resolecca Ай бұрын
Oh absolutely, majority do not remotely care about the "Palestinians"
@resolecca
@resolecca Ай бұрын
Oh absolutely they don't care about the other side at all
@emily-ti4vy
@emily-ti4vy Ай бұрын
Exactly. The Palestinian-Arabs started slaughtering Jews before Israel was re-founded. They were inspired & incited by Nazi ally - & founder of the Palestinian Liberation Movement - the Grand Mufti Husseini. He inspired the Hebron massacre of 1929 & planned with Hitler to extend the Final Solution to the Middle East - again all before Israel was even created.
@IBMCs2009
@IBMCs2009 Ай бұрын
Nice obviously made up story
@guidobolke5618
@guidobolke5618 Ай бұрын
As Jonathan said, the Oxford Union is a place where the politicians of tommorow practice politics. Good Luck Britain!
@davidgoddard5532
@davidgoddard5532 Ай бұрын
Yes, it is very worrying. 😥
@MarionDavis-c3f
@MarionDavis-c3f 29 күн бұрын
​@@davidgoddard5532I agree.
@LS-xs7sg
@LS-xs7sg 28 күн бұрын
Well we allowed the country to be colonised by various foreigners and our own native identity to be trashed so we shouldn’t be surprised when politics becomes tribalistic and unstable.
@TFUTM
@TFUTM 26 күн бұрын
Save the videos and name and shame them. Film clips of their bigotry can haunt their careers.
@noam8080
@noam8080 Ай бұрын
First time now i've heard the chairman of the debate was an Egyptian Arab. That explains a lot
@barrycarter9289
@barrycarter9289 Ай бұрын
Everything about this debate and the fact that the FULL debate is not available to view brings shame on Oxford University, the supporters of Hamas, and in general the supporters of any cause involving the Palestinians. It is yet one more event that shows the Justice of Israels response to the massacre of 7th October The supporters of terrorism have shot themselves in the foot one more time ........ Thank you for showing us who you are ,once more
@Thenoobestgirl
@Thenoobestgirl Ай бұрын
The Palestinian ideology is like a virus that ruins whatever it touches
@authenticallysuperficial9874
@authenticallysuperficial9874 Ай бұрын
Israel is carrying out mass murder. You think mass murder is an appropriate response to some unrelated dipshits in woke londonistan attempting censorship and commiting fraud?
@davidgoddard5532
@davidgoddard5532 Ай бұрын
All the pro Israel speakers were brilliant especially Natasha Hausdorff ❤. How bravery she was, refused to be intimidated. Anyone with half a brain and not biased would have voted for the pro Israeli speakers.
@brynawaldman5790
@brynawaldman5790 Ай бұрын
Despite being set-up, ambushed, & censored, the pro-Israel team did better than the pro-Hamas side. You showed a lot more maturity, too.
@connie.22
@connie.22 Ай бұрын
❤ i call them the dream team ❤
@IBMCs2009
@IBMCs2009 Ай бұрын
and yet here you are saying "Hamas" when everyone knows the majority of killing is women and children....so there is such a thing as a civilian population...like we need a debate for this
@WUB0105
@WUB0105 Ай бұрын
@@IBMCs2009 If you rely on hamas´ numbers, according to them Israel has killed only civilians. And all the numbers coming from the un comes from the gaza health ministery, and it´s actually all made up by hamas. Hamas registering "mohameds" as civilian women, and 31-year old men as babies. Just do your homework before posting bs.
@brynawaldman5790
@brynawaldman5790 Ай бұрын
​​@@IBMCs2009A recent study proves Hamas lied by saying men who were killed were women, & women were children, & people who died from illness died from bombs. You believe the lies of loud liars. Israel has the best combat to civilian casualty rate in modern urban warfare in the world. It's time for you to use critical thinking to reveal the lies.
@mrcombustiblelemon2902
@mrcombustiblelemon2902 Ай бұрын
​@@IBMCs2009looks like someone didn't read the latest Telegraph article analyzing the casualty reports from Gaza 😂
@gozgo99
@gozgo99 Ай бұрын
Dear Jonathan, First of all, thank you very much for your courage to stand up and explain the Israeli side. Secondly, I think that in this Oxford forum with a hall full of opponents, the cries of contempt and interruptions to you and the other speakers are actually calls of fear, they are afraid to hear the other side and find out that they are actually wrong.
@WUB0105
@WUB0105 Ай бұрын
Those crazy "students" think they won, but they just exposed themselves.
@rybbah
@rybbah Ай бұрын
I guess they lost their legitimacy when nearly none of them raised their hands when were asked if they'd report the attack of october 7 if they would get information that it's going to happen
@karolinarumin7462
@karolinarumin7462 Ай бұрын
Exactly
@hq3473
@hq3473 26 күн бұрын
When 90% of them said they would not report plans for Oct. 7 - it was clear who they are
@CoreyGilShusterAskProject
@CoreyGilShusterAskProject Ай бұрын
It's a very mafia culture
@NickToland
@NickToland 23 күн бұрын
We love you Gil
@eladshechtman3089
@eladshechtman3089 Ай бұрын
Jonathan awesome thank you for speaking the truth 🙏
@giliatt
@giliatt Ай бұрын
Thank you Jonathan! And amazing interview as always Doran!
@TheEasyWayDMS
@TheEasyWayDMS Ай бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
@Mohammed-f8h9j
@Mohammed-f8h9j Ай бұрын
As a Muslim, I apologize for the terrible behaviour of my fellow Muslims. I’m ashamed and embarrassed.
@sushipizza4439
@sushipizza4439 Ай бұрын
As a jew most Muslims are perfectly normal people who want to live in peace and practice religion. Sadly many Muslims extremeists on social media and some fringe Muslims groups in general made a lot of polarization occur. I appreciate your comment and hope for peace and coexistence between the religions because I think Judaism and Islam are more similar than different having studied both
@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla
@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla Ай бұрын
you dont represent others, you are you and dont feel guilty of things you didnt do
@Lalahlannd
@Lalahlannd Ай бұрын
I’m not a muslim and i didn’t see anything wrong ! If you support geno cide apartheid state then you deserve ZERO respect or a red carpet treatment these people expected to get
@lizadonrex
@lizadonrex Ай бұрын
Then you need to speak out and protest.
@deavman
@deavman Ай бұрын
Islam has turned into a "hindrance" to the entire world. While many mslms are perfectly decent people, a very large percentage are promoting vi olen t jihad and are "successful" at it. May be leaving the ideology is a start, as reforming seems to be impossible.
@abcxyz8787
@abcxyz8787 Ай бұрын
Jonathan when I watched the video of you speaking at that debate I thought you looked like Herzl :) Everybody on the Israeli team did an outstanding job telling the facts and truth despite the huge wave of hatred that you faced in that room. As an Israeli I thank you for not giving up and speak for Israel especially in the poisonous and violent anti Israel atmosphere basically everywhere now.
@ajNKaj
@ajNKaj Ай бұрын
@@abcxyz8787 herzel lives
@grisimm
@grisimm Ай бұрын
honestly scary to think what will come out from those schools
@Carla39894
@Carla39894 Ай бұрын
Oxford has become a circus
@noahman27
@noahman27 Ай бұрын
The entire so called "debate" NEEDS to be posted on youtube unedited!!!!!! Those cowards.
@Thenoobestgirl
@Thenoobestgirl Ай бұрын
Someone needs to hack their archives and leak it
@MountainMitch
@MountainMitch Ай бұрын
This story needs to be heard! Adding a comment to boost the popularity of the video.
@valerieweil7817
@valerieweil7817 28 күн бұрын
Agreed.
@XanthiumSpinoso
@XanthiumSpinoso Ай бұрын
You did an amazing job Jonathan ❤
@itsonlyagame
@itsonlyagame Ай бұрын
איזה כיף זה לראות את הסירטון הזה מופיע אצלי בפיד יומיים אחרי שראיתי את ה"debate" הזה באוקפורד שמח מאוד לראות אותך משתלב ומתרחב
@jannikahaggstrom5762
@jannikahaggstrom5762 Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@dogbert52
@dogbert52 Ай бұрын
Qatari cash. And ill listen to it now, thank you both
@Israelpwn
@Israelpwn Ай бұрын
Ouch Doran, I was in the debate club in Ben Gurion University :') Why you gotta call us out like that?
@TimePastein
@TimePastein 23 күн бұрын
לאולם לא תזלזל בן גוריונאי! די כבר, למה כולם משמיצים אותנו?
@SmaiAllaa
@SmaiAllaa Ай бұрын
Doran you must do full review for each speech (from both sides).
@valerieweil7817
@valerieweil7817 28 күн бұрын
"Must"? Absolutely not.
@pasha92
@pasha92 Ай бұрын
It is an arab "president" of the union what did you expect he would debate? Human rights in Saudi Arabia, female circumcision in Egypt? (he's Egyptian if I remember correctly)
@ajNKaj
@ajNKaj Ай бұрын
The fact that a muslim makes it to presidency shows the fairness of western university scene says it all. Try that in moslem countries
@ajNKaj
@ajNKaj Ай бұрын
Debate is a mind sport. I loved doing that in my youth. Surprising self with having grown in deep reflection
@Michael-k8r2g
@Michael-k8r2g Ай бұрын
Starting a war with an attack as savage and indiscriminate as the events that unfolded 7 October, then crying "genocide" on October 8 when the bill came due ... only one word for that: PATHETIC!
@IBMCs2009
@IBMCs2009 Ай бұрын
Hannibal directive?
@Otakulifeforme
@Otakulifeforme 22 күн бұрын
@@IBMCs2009the Hannibal directive was outlawed in 2017
@eyalamit5120
@eyalamit5120 17 күн бұрын
@@IBMCs2009 Delusional and disgusting conspiracy theory debunked by the footage of the event.
@commenceun
@commenceun Ай бұрын
Marvelous discussion. If the audience expresses that they won't report OCT. 7 if they knew it would happen, then it leads to the idea that they are not concerned about human lives, but are instead prejudiced
@MarionDavis-c3f
@MarionDavis-c3f 29 күн бұрын
It's also very disturbing to know they support the massacres and atrocities and would support it happening again.
@dm97329
@dm97329 Ай бұрын
What has Oxford become. This we did not se for 10-20 years ago. What a terrible school.
@PrisonLifeLarry
@PrisonLifeLarry Ай бұрын
As an American, I am disgusted by the disrespectful behavior of some of those students who were clearly antisemitic students. The speaker spoke respectfully and factually debunking all the lies by the opposition. Israel is a western democracy that invites Arabs, jews and Druze to live in peace. Facts don't care about feelings. I hope that the United States wakes up to the lies, stench and wickedness growing within. One truth from that brave speaker debunked all the lies of the opposition. God Bless the United States.
@verceliedavid5778
@verceliedavid5778 Ай бұрын
Those side with terrorist showed no respect.
@rachelnastovici3990
@rachelnastovici3990 Ай бұрын
THAT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE CLEARLY TERRORISTS TOO!
@raeli731
@raeli731 Ай бұрын
Norman Finkelstein is a dishonest man and a coward. Unbelievable this happened in the Oxford Union and they cropped out so much! Well done to Jonathan and the amazing team representing us! 💙🤍
@rachelnastovici3990
@rachelnastovici3990 Ай бұрын
I AGREE, NORMAN FINKELSTEIN IS A LIAR & A CREEP!
@attiTubefun
@attiTubefun 23 күн бұрын
As a Palestinian Arab Muslim, I am so ashamed of how my people behave in public debates. I know exactly what you mean as I witnessed so many so called educated Palestinians debate and all what my ear and eyes witnessed was hooligans just shouting with no intention to debate or make anyone talk other than them and when they talk all what they spill is dirt baseless word salads and poetic speeches that take no one any where. I am ashamed of my nation
@bloodcircle3885
@bloodcircle3885 25 күн бұрын
The debate is available online in full.
@peterkost4376
@peterkost4376 24 күн бұрын
Where can we access it? I've been looking for it but I just find reviews
@bloodcircle3885
@bloodcircle3885 24 күн бұрын
@ kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGmZkHiCotdjjqMsi=QDI93G7jXCJCaiH9
@bloodcircle3885
@bloodcircle3885 24 күн бұрын
You can also find it on Sacerdoti’s KZbin channel as well as various clips on YT. The censorship BS is just that BS.
@peterkost4376
@peterkost4376 24 күн бұрын
@bloodcircle3885 thx
@ac1646
@ac1646 19 күн бұрын
@@bloodcircle3885 It's censored on the Oxford Union channel. Which is the main point.
@kittensrus1570
@kittensrus1570 Ай бұрын
It was more like the jeremy kyle show than a oxford union debate, the whole palestine/israel issue has been so perplexing. But one just needs to look at the oslo occords, the PA have the right to self determination, self governance, they need to stop the PA authorities martyrs fund, that teaches kids terrorism at school. Its not a apartheid state in israel,What scared me the most was the majority of students wouldnt report a terrorist attack.
@rachelnastovici3990
@rachelnastovici3990 Ай бұрын
TYPICAL HATREDOF JEWS AND FOR HUMANITY IN GENERAL.
@or_gaash
@or_gaash Ай бұрын
Doran please do a review of the debate! If you can edit in the sensor parts that will be awesome!
@SmaiAllaa
@SmaiAllaa Ай бұрын
Yeah that would be great! He can make a series where he review each one of the speeches per episode. It'll be super interesting, and would be amazing for the YT engagement.
@connie.22
@connie.22 Ай бұрын
I think there were 8 different speeches. ​@@SmaiAllaa
@icewolf2305
@icewolf2305 Ай бұрын
צופה בסרטון תודה רבה
@O.D.T.Y
@O.D.T.Y Ай бұрын
I've seen the original video which seemed uncivilized. the muslims girls seated behind jonathan really made the impression that islam is not about logic or free speech and essentially should be feared. you could definitely see that in the comments and critic of the way that oxford changing its face.
@Thenoobestgirl
@Thenoobestgirl Ай бұрын
Yeah, that pretty much summerizes Islam up accurately. 👍
@youreasnake4548
@youreasnake4548 23 күн бұрын
When 90% of them said they would not report plans for Oct. 7, it was clear who they were. Natasha Hausdorff was an underappreciated speaker in this debate. She nailed it with facts and logic, and I was enthralled; she's an excellent speaker. Every one of the Israeli speakers was professional, coherent and factual and it is such a disturbing sign that people are siding with the 'screaming children' that ALL Oxford students have apparently become. The aggression that was shown to the Israeli speakers was just despicable and gets me worried for the future as these crazy terrorist sympathisers will just outshout and "out-violence" anyone who opposes their agenda. Anyone with any level of critical thinking can see the right side of history, and anything beyond that is wilful ignorance.
@mattnewhouse1781
@mattnewhouse1781 27 күн бұрын
Jimmy Carter wrote the book "Apartheid" about Israel. I believe he started this antisemitic slur. He died yesterday, I definitely did not shed a tear. I said "about time!". Im the lone voice.
@enigmabletchley6936
@enigmabletchley6936 28 күн бұрын
Thank you Jonathan. You are a hero to the Jewish community in the UK. In 2000 the then Labour government made the Oxbridge admissions process discriminate in favour of state school students against the independent/public school candidates which previously made up nearly all students accepted. From personal experience I know how ill-prepared comprehensive school students are for an Oxbridge education. You can see the slide in standards in this debate and even more publicly by the way Oxbridge universities are regularly trounced on BBC's 'University Challenge' by Russel Group universities which now receive the best students as a result of the change in the Oxbridge admissions process.
@LF-tu8my
@LF-tu8my 17 күн бұрын
Amazing interview, thanks to u both
@TheEasyWayDMS
@TheEasyWayDMS 17 күн бұрын
Our pleasure!
@nhlsens3880
@nhlsens3880 Ай бұрын
They cut out the video portion where you can see how many hands were raised/not raised when asked if they would report the October 7 attack.
@IvorNovello112
@IvorNovello112 Ай бұрын
It was hard to tell if it was feeding time at the zoo or a debate at the Oxford Union? The European nations need to be more selective with the people they take in.
@davidgoddard5532
@davidgoddard5532 Ай бұрын
Maybe one of the Israeli speakers should have gone through victim after victim after victim of the Oct 7 massacre describing in detail of what happened to them. Hold up photos etc. Basically the world is sympathetic to the people of Gaza who are being “attacked” by Israel ….. and that clearly convinces the gullible.
@IBMCs2009
@IBMCs2009 Ай бұрын
That’s because the Israelis are rich, Palestinians are poor. Israel is a nuclear state while they have primitive weapons. You have hundreds of dead Israelis verses tens of thousands of dead Palestinians, mainly women and children. It’s not ‘the world is sympathetic’, it’s people who understand the nature of the conflict
@Thenoobestgirl
@Thenoobestgirl Ай бұрын
​@@IBMCs2009the fact that the Palestinians are weak doesn't make them the good guys.
@Testbug-dy6tj
@Testbug-dy6tj Ай бұрын
Put these people in prison, no chance for probation or parole, life sentences.
@Thenoobestgirl
@Thenoobestgirl Ай бұрын
I hope all the morons who were in attendance that day and voted they wouldn't have alerted the security services if they knew October 7th was going to happen were put on a watch list at the very least...
@MarSee-o1u
@MarSee-o1u Ай бұрын
The bullying behaviour exhibited in this “debate” reflects how Oxford, and likely many other UK academic institutions, is a cesspool of Jew-hatred and how the quality of education is laughable. An Oxford grad cannot be taken seriously anymore.
@janewatson8108
@janewatson8108 28 күн бұрын
I was speaking to an ‘educated’ person over Christmas who referred to someone else as being “pro-Palestine and pro-peace”. I said “you can’t be both, ‘Palestinians’ aren’t pro-peace”. He acted surprised, as if the possibility had never occurred to him. As you say, the facts appear to be irrelevant.
@schwanzusminimus3321
@schwanzusminimus3321 26 күн бұрын
Saw it and was disgusted.
@elproject3343
@elproject3343 Ай бұрын
You should show the videos you are referring to for easy reference. A bit of more edit but it Would have been even more interesting.
@eachandeverything983
@eachandeverything983 24 күн бұрын
You can look them up yourself?
@c4tcampaign4truth
@c4tcampaign4truth Ай бұрын
This debate will prove to be one of the pivotal points that etches a dent into the propaganda of the Red/Green Alliance - what happened is that important.
@Daniel-p8m3v
@Daniel-p8m3v Ай бұрын
Disgraceful. Brave man
@esthernebenzahl9270
@esthernebenzahl9270 27 күн бұрын
So help me God if the Oxford Debate is the kindergarten for future members of the English parliament!!!
@peryyair
@peryyair 28 күн бұрын
This debate will be a stain on Oxford's name for years to come
@MarionDavis-c3f
@MarionDavis-c3f 29 күн бұрын
Jonathan did a great job. I really appreciate this video of explaination.
@jacktbugx1658
@jacktbugx1658 Ай бұрын
Ambush Very hard to Ambush the truth
@joelhall5124
@joelhall5124 21 күн бұрын
We had something similar happen at the University of London. One our J-Soc had invited someone from the Israeli embassy to speak, and the ULU deliberately leaked this (despite knowing they shouldn't) to the entire union membership. It caused a massice security problem and there was abuse thrown at us. We all know what's behind this.
@JulianaAndersson
@JulianaAndersson Ай бұрын
“Facts don’t matter, perceptions is everything” is SO 1984
@vovacuna
@vovacuna 27 күн бұрын
Here is a take. Being personally offended when a Palestinian calls Palestinians pathetic is kind of pathetic.
@BobMobBom
@BobMobBom Ай бұрын
G'evening, care to link the debate itself, or even better the uncesored version if its on youtube?
@connie.22
@connie.22 Ай бұрын
@BobMobBom the oxford Union posted all 8 debates. Some they reposted with less cuts... johnathan posted on his you tube channel some..
@davidgoddard5532
@davidgoddard5532 Ай бұрын
It’s not difficult to find.
@GaviLazan
@GaviLazan Ай бұрын
I found it amusing that right after talking about how the debate had a cut, removing some part of it, the interview had a hard cut removing something 😂😂
@TheEasyWayDMS
@TheEasyWayDMS Ай бұрын
Probably internet hiccup 🤣
@GaviLazan
@GaviLazan Ай бұрын
@TheEasyWayDMS it's right when you exclaim in surprise. It seems you just cut out that part until the conversation gets back on track.
@Thenoobestgirl
@Thenoobestgirl Ай бұрын
Same lol
@Doronelisha
@Doronelisha Ай бұрын
The oxfords debate, returned my trauma from first contact with the Q. “Fair trial” 🖖🏻
@Thenoobestgirl
@Thenoobestgirl Ай бұрын
The Q?
@tlehman0001
@tlehman0001 12 күн бұрын
I can't find any of the debate.... only your opening speech...a link would be much appreciated
@arjay9745
@arjay9745 Ай бұрын
The shocking refusal of the pro-Palestinian camp to engage in any real debate with regard to their cause has done as much to dissuade me that it might have any merit as the facts themselves.
@XanderLeoShiller
@XanderLeoShiller Ай бұрын
Curious - is this the same Oxford in charge of the English dictionary?!
@emilnielsen3671
@emilnielsen3671 Ай бұрын
No
@XanderLeoShiller
@XanderLeoShiller Ай бұрын
@emilnielsen3671 nothing surprises me anymore but whew.
@ioanniskleanthous4810
@ioanniskleanthous4810 25 күн бұрын
where there not 2 votes in the oxford union? 1 before 1 after? what happened to the one before?
@geoffreyriggs2397
@geoffreyriggs2397 16 күн бұрын
At 35:36 - 35:38, there is something abruptly cut out of this conversation! Ironic in view of the fact that this is precisely the point when these two are discussing the censorship imposed on the Oxford Union debate by those in charge of the Oxford Union!
@TheEasyWayDMS
@TheEasyWayDMS 16 күн бұрын
We had an internet hiccup lol
@larusafox
@larusafox 28 күн бұрын
I watched the whole debate and listened to the audio you recorded. You were all valiant lions. The point about the supposedly educated public preferring stories to fact is right on and very concerning. Storytelling has been weaponized in the public discourse, to a very alarming degree. I love stories, but this is not about good stories. It’s about duping naive ignorant people who want to see life in very simplistic ways. I was lucky that my first real facts about Israel came from Israeli Arabs, who I met while a student in Europe in the 90s. It was overwhelmingly positive without glossing over the issues. I’m trying to tell my son about it, but it’s not really registering, at least for now.
@aki26008
@aki26008 Ай бұрын
🙏
@jonnygrown22
@jonnygrown22 20 күн бұрын
No condemnation of Mossab calling Palestinians the most pathetic people on planet earth
@dailybootz
@dailybootz 26 күн бұрын
As a parent I would never send my kids to Oxford, Harvard or these anti-semitic universities.
@yoavjacoby8246
@yoavjacoby8246 25 күн бұрын
The Oxford Caliphate
@Radicalplay
@Radicalplay Ай бұрын
That was a great expose against those crazy kid debaters, but you guys need to also more importantly confront and address Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, the UN and The Hague! Good luck and keep it up ❤
@fnbs-l9o
@fnbs-l9o Ай бұрын
אנגליה נפלה עניין של כמה שנים ולא יהיה זכר למקומים...
@Didleeios88
@Didleeios88 Ай бұрын
Oxford debates "motions" (proposals for actions put to committee). One can also debate a "notion" (an idea held by a person or group)
@הללקימל-ח4כ
@הללקימל-ח4כ Ай бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@PatrickHutton
@PatrickHutton 25 күн бұрын
Did they have to go with bodyguards because of potential violence from students, outsiders, or both?
@MarionDavis-c3f
@MarionDavis-c3f 29 күн бұрын
I wonder why norman Fincklestein didnt want to debate with Mossab? Very telling.
@willbritannia5217
@willbritannia5217 27 күн бұрын
Mossab Hassan Yousef is the realist. You may think he’s too aggressive but he’s aggressive because he gets it. He realises the evil we’re fighting against, and it won’t be defeated by weak, polite men!
@thevillageyid
@thevillageyid 11 күн бұрын
Waiting for you to get Mossab on here!
@claudiaxander
@claudiaxander Ай бұрын
You were treated ridiculously. Well done.
@anthonybernstein9698
@anthonybernstein9698 Ай бұрын
Why did the opposition turn up, they shouldn't have given the pro terrorists the opportunity.
@IBMCs2009
@IBMCs2009 Ай бұрын
how strange, you dont consider Israels actions to be terrorism? Perhaps read some history
@Thenoobestgirl
@Thenoobestgirl Ай бұрын
​@@IBMCs2009maybe you should take your own advice
@ac1646
@ac1646 19 күн бұрын
Natasha Hausdorff has said she is more than happy to enter debates to push back against misinformation (words to that effect). Can you imagine the 'moral' victory the side for the motion would have claimed had the 'opposition' not turned up?
@denisswe
@denisswe 26 күн бұрын
8 body guards vs the religion of peace the irony 😂
@connie.22
@connie.22 Ай бұрын
I wonder what was the order of the speeches pro israel?? Did it affect the crouwds reaction??
@stephengray1344
@stephengray1344 Ай бұрын
Jonathan was first, then Yoseph Haddad (an Arab Israeli who served in the IDF), then Mosab, then Natasha Hausdorff. Having listened to all the speeches on both sides I would say that Yoseph's was the strongest. Much of it was biographical - showing how his experiences are incompatible with Israel being an apartheid state and finishing by showing photos of Arab Israelis who are doing things that would have been impossible for blacks living in apartheid era South Africa. I'm not sure I noticed any particular effect on the crowds. The final speech seemed to get the least bad reaction from the crowd. But I don't think that's anything to do with the order in which they spoke.
@connie.22
@connie.22 Ай бұрын
@stephengray1344 thanks, I thought the 2 Arabs got the worst heckeling. Seemed to me, but I watched the?speeches differing weeks.
@stephengray1344
@stephengray1344 Ай бұрын
@@connie.22 That was definitely my impression as well. I watched the three that were initially put up all together, and the Mosab one a couple of days later.
@xberman
@xberman 17 күн бұрын
I'm not sure.... but a part in me is angry at him for giving platform to that antisemitic venue..... if the outcome was fixed, the "Israeli" side should have boycotted it
@jeanyves5380
@jeanyves5380 Ай бұрын
How can we forge an opinion since we do ne see the debate?
@Thenoobestgirl
@Thenoobestgirl Ай бұрын
Go watch it, genius. :P
@jeanyves5380
@jeanyves5380 Ай бұрын
@@Thenoobestgirl Thank You Madam! Cannot see any link in presentation. May be i messed something because english is not my native language. Sorry!
@adam_long_unique_name
@adam_long_unique_name Ай бұрын
For being completely fair, one could argue that the reason people didn't raise their hands wasn't because they wouldn't tell the authorities. But because they didn't want to play along with Mosabs orders. Maybe they wouldn't have raised their hands even if he would ask the questions in the negative way
@rachelnastovici3990
@rachelnastovici3990 Ай бұрын
TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE REASON THEY DIDN'T RAISE THEIR HANDS DOESN'T DIMINISH THE FACT THAT TBEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S RIGHTS NOR THE LIVES OF THEIR OWN CHILDREN. GOD FORBID WE HAVE TO LEAVE OUR PLANET TO THEM😢
@Thenoobestgirl
@Thenoobestgirl Ай бұрын
You give the too much credit
@LS-xs7sg
@LS-xs7sg 28 күн бұрын
There is also another so called “grooming scandal” going on in Oxford. But there is very little connection between the upper class metropolitans in Oxford and the working class English of the town that they don’t care.
@worldpeace1822
@worldpeace1822 22 күн бұрын
Well it is not unheard of people to do underhand threats because that seems to be a thing to silence people in certain denominations…😮 so I am not surprised about the atmosphere
@DianaHylandTX
@DianaHylandTX 27 күн бұрын
Weren’t there rules of debate for the audience. Certain behaviors? Agreed facts?
@sharonefee1426
@sharonefee1426 Ай бұрын
It gets worse and worse the more the video goes on...
@connie.22
@connie.22 Ай бұрын
This video?? Or you watched a speech? There were 8.
@sharonefee1426
@sharonefee1426 Ай бұрын
​@@connie.22 In how shameful this debate was...
@John-c3u9o
@John-c3u9o Ай бұрын
Imagine if Oxford held a debate about whether the Holocaust really happened. It would be a moral obscenity. Imagine inviting the Armenians or the Tutsis or the Rohingya or the Timorese to a debate about whether the Turks or or the Hutus or the Burmese or the Indonesians had a right to respond to terror attacks the way they did and whether what followed was really a genocide or just legitimate self-defense. At what point does a debate about what is happening in Gaza become a moral obscenity?
@Thenoobestgirl
@Thenoobestgirl Ай бұрын
The moment it's put on the same pedestal as the Holocaust and other *actual* genocides.
@ibrahimkamara9508
@ibrahimkamara9508 27 күн бұрын
To be fair some of the pro-Israel people were saying things that are definitely illegal to say in the UK
@JeanBod1111
@JeanBod1111 26 күн бұрын
Like what??
@ibrahimkamara9508
@ibrahimkamara9508 25 күн бұрын
@JeanBod1111 in the UK it's illegal to insult ethnic groups. Mossad Yousef called Palestinians the most pathetic human beings on Earth. Which obviously is going to make the moderator stop you and they had to take that part out to not get in trouble with the government.
@jeremyspeller5713
@jeremyspeller5713 25 күн бұрын
I agree the debate audience was badly behaved - but never the less, those arguing for the proposition clearly won. I can understand that for this topic emotions run high on both sides - if Israel is committing a genocide - those defending Israel’s actions will in retrospect probably deserve abuse in the same way that we would not condemn verbal abuse against those defending apartheid South Africa
@rivlew7025
@rivlew7025 21 күн бұрын
Time of worshipping idols is comming to an end. Oxford lost it's way.
@kobiromano6115
@kobiromano6115 Ай бұрын
6:38 GDBO refusing to name the "other place"!
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