How The Show Ruined The Brienne and Podrick Relations

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[@OvertheHedge06]

The show really ignored one of the most endering and charming relationships in the whole book series

[@Ashbrash1998]

They did that with a lot of relationships

[@tanpham937]

You can thanks Dumb&Dumber for that.

[@ACinemafanatic]

@@tanpham937bunch of idiots that fumbled a massive thing like game of thrones because they didn’t understand the world but thought only they can end the story with how they see fit. Taking out the magical elements for bran Dany Jon and Arya and not having tyrions dark turn and combining characters together was so stupid and ruined it altogether

[@jimmymcgill2557]

to be fair i thought it was one of only things they did right relationship wise, it didn't take that long for her to start liking him and training him when you consider how long the time frame overall is book or show

[@ArcherInTraining2]

​​@@ACinemafanatic agreed. Producers and writers of shows are so eager to make their mark on something they didn't birth. They want to watch it back and be able to tell people. "See that difference? I did that". Sadly the film industry as it is when you get to mainstream stuff that everyone is going to hear about because of advertising is basically all run by Nepo babies and people who got their position through money and not renown. So pretty much none of them have any creativity worth paying attention to. I've read short stories from my middle school students that are better than most shows and even some really hearty books recently. But these kids will probably never even see a movie set or know what it's like to write for something big that hundreds of thousands of people will see. But then every now and then if they keep writing they get plucked at by a big company trying to make a mark like Martin and GOT. He has said the whole thing in Hollywood and dealing with producers in his ear and on his back has completely changed him and ruined his creative writing flow. Super sad.

[@Thatoneguy48147]

I have grown to like the phrase “Did you know, in the books” at the beginning of every short because there very much is a stark (pun intended) contrast between the written material and what was presented in the show

[@johns1625]

Did you know, in the books, the audiobooks are longer than the show, by way more than double, so this guy will have content for years and years

[@jakeraught4939]

Have you read the books? If not, you really really should.

[@Thatoneguy48147]

@@jakeraught4939 no I have. Its just been quite a while since I read them and details can also be overlooked. I need to reread them whenever I find the time

[@pyramidion5911]

Did you know? These shorts often get it wrong as well

[@TurbulenttJuice]

It is a shame, because he is so loyal to her and holds her in such high regard and He saved her life at least once that I can remember. Not a great choice by the writers of the show I agree a great example is the way that he sticks up for when Bronn speaks of her with disrespect. I didn’t realize how much this bothered me until you pointed it out.

[@rocthaice24]

this is complete BS their bond is a key point of the show even when she is knighted

[@elisabethhutchinson2987]

She's very motherly to Pod in the books or maybe big sister like. She buys him treats like oranges, teaches him to fight and protects him. It's very sweet. Even more so that they're both still very young Pod being 12 and Brienne 20.

[@AegonTargaryenthesecond3096]

My man had sex at 12😂😂

[@Rajarshi_X]

There has never existed a more loyal squire

[@WobblesandBean]

Dropping Lady Stoneheart was one of the most baffling decision D&D did. This scene would have been AMAZING with Gwendoline's performance.

[@Jacob-lv6zy]

I think i know why they did it, but I might be wrong. Lady stonehearts story in the books will be very important for the conclusion of jaimes, brienne and eventually cerseis story. What I think will happen in the book is that Jaime will be captured(again) by the brotherhood and will have to choose between Briennes life or cerseis life by stoneheart. Jaime will save Brienne, but might agree that Cersei has to go, which plays a part into the resolution of the Lannisters story arc. However, by the time the show reached the 4-5th season, the books were not completed and the writers did not have that source material to go with, even if GRRM had given hints, so they decided to change Jaimes story for the ”benefit” to the shows plot. The show was in that weird point in time where it was still possible that GRRM could still maybe finish Winds of winter before the story went too far and new book material might still be inserted in the show. I still believe that while DnD had the ending explained, they did not have all details. While dropping stoneheart was bad, at that time i kind of understood why. It was not the change that doomed the story, but it was the first of many bricks to fall.

[@johns1625]

@@Jacob-lv6zy That may be, but I think Stoneheart is not really interested in the realm of being that reasonable. She knows Brienne probably isn't lying, but still decides Jamie is guilty and she's lying, and Catelyn wasn't exactly known for her ability to see reason in matters like this. I think she's going to force Brienne to fight Jamie since they both took the same oath to save her children and failed, and Jamie is going to let Brienne kill him.

[@SapphireSolstice67]

Personally, I like Beric more than Lady stoneheart, so it’s a shame he gave his life for hers. I like the idea that some god revived a just okay knight, and he’s wondering why him, what will he do that’s so important. It’s like Dunk’s foot, if you’ve read the books.

[@Beka_Rex]

I’ll never rest till I know what Pod did to those women in the Whouse 😂

[@aidang3746]

So Brienne and Jaime have the bath reveal of why Jaime killed the mad king in the book, cause if they did it would make a lot of sense for her to break her oath and save Jaime just like he broke an oath for the greater good

[@Dan-vo7vc]

"Hanged," people are hanged. When you say a man is "hung," that means something different altogether.

[@goatlover6312]

Well the whores decided to refund Pod for a reason. (Not sure if that part was in the books but it was funny nonetheless).

[@sleepingbee8997]

To quote ASOIAF "Your father was not a tapestry: He was hanged, not hung."

[@SLrandomshitposting]

😂 the hung man was hanged

[@markanthony1004]

Lmafao 😂😂😂😂

[@Theorimlig]

"Meat is hung, men are hanged".

[@mael8881]

Out of the subject but I love the idea of the sponsorships, it makes your good work being paid as it should be, and the shout-out is a nice reward for the people supporting you ❤

[@alexanderkhandolishvili5336]

Jaime, Podrick, Brienne and Hound joining the Brotherhood could bring out some interesting moments.

[@FathersUnited-fu]

Lady Stoneheart would never allow that

[@spidercannibal]

they’re dynamic in the books is so sweet i really wish we had gotten to see it in the show

[@johns1625]

60 days into their venture together and he still ends literally every sentence with "mah lord, eh, oi mean, m'lady, oi mean, m'lorday" 🤣

[@rocthaice24]

it was great in the show

[@thedemonhater7748]

I think the show dynamic between them was interesting in its own way. Brienne’s spent most of her life being mistreated/denigrated by the people around her, even though she lives up to Westerosi ideals of chivalry, knighthood and martial prowess better than most could hope for. She’s harsh to Podrick, sure, but she never does it out of maliciousness, and she does come to respect him as time goes on

[@rocthaice24]

GOT has the worse hate boner trolls. All of these people acting like these two didn’t have a bond that carried the series on big ways

[@henryokoro3140]

“Podrick Payne is just a Boy” - Brienne of Tarth

[@allisonargent2209]

I don’t think that Catelyn will just die by Brienne’s hands, she may have a purpose…

[@suburbantimewaster9620]

I don’t remember the show going into that much detail. Guess they had to cut it out for time.

[@forg0tten]

I never get sick of these. I haven't re read the books since before the show and sometimes It's hard to keep it all straight.

[@wompa70]

Maybe I’d feel different if I read the books. But I didn’t see Brienne mistreat Pod. I saw her as someone who doesn’t think she deserves a squire. Patient Podrick showed her that she did. And showed her that she’s a better knight than she thought.

[@rocthaice24]

she didn’t but GOT has a hate boner crowd. The bond was great in the show just took a different route with not as much super natural

[@pointman343]

Make a video on lady stoneheart bro . She is always very mysterious . Nice vids bdw 🔥

[@thejoeshow1530]

Did you know, the show was the best thing to happen to ASOIAF? It’s easy, and a popular thing for creators to do, to shat on the show but, Got massive attention drawn towards the novels. Didn’t give away the ending of the novels. Was the greatest TV show ever.(Ending?) Caused even more shows to be made. Made a lot of KZbinrs popular. And I would have never known about these amazing books if the show was never made and I’m sure that’s the case for a ton of people.

[@pyramidion5911]

This is like when the abused sympathize with the abuser.

[@timwhite5562]

What's doubtful is that we'll ever actually find out what happens. Grrm doesn't seem too motivated to get off his procrastinating ass to finish it. I'd bet my bottom dollar that he doesn't have even half as much written as claims to.

[@marcoarenaza54]

That may not be breaking her oath since that would be asking for something that would bring her dishonor.

[@mwhite2300]

I don't know how you interpreted the show as mistreating Pod, as far as I could tell she cared for him almost like a son, but still had the duty of teaching him as a squire. There was a nature there of authority there, but that is to be expected. It's not a monumental change from the text at all. Granted they certainly didn't get into the details or personal adventures as much, but it was a TV show with an hour per show format.

[@rduke325]

It's because she is a strong, independent woman who don't need no man

[@manthandasondi]

Audio has a buzzing sound

[@katiemartin6991]

I think it was at least partially due to D&D not wanting people to ship them (understandably)

[@8bitdaydreams]

Pod is so cute in the show

[@Novabunny_]

Was all for the J&B romance and D&D said “Fuck this shit…”

[@Gonzolicious]

Idk, Brienne doesn't seem too smart from what I've read in the books so far though I'm still reading A Storm of Swords

[@sleepingbee8997]

Yes, she's very naïve. Which makes the character development in A Feast For Crows all the better.

[@Gonzolicious]

@@sleepingbee8997 my anticipation for A Feast for Crows grows now

[@Vmac1394]

You left out the fact that Podrick is 12 years old. It's really creepy that the show aged him into a man and had him be really good at sleeping with hookers.

[@Dattebayo04]

They aged everyone in the show. Anyways, the whole hooker thing was said to be a secret plot of Little Finger. He wanted the prostitutes to get information out of Pod by making him think the girls genuinely enjoyed him. It's why they didn't allow him to pay. You think LittleFinger would accept the women not making Lannister Gold?😂😂

[@MacabreQt888]

@@Dattebayo04that makes so much sense!

[@Dattebayo04]

@@MacabreQt888 Thanks😇

[@PrimeTime0]

​@@Dattebayo04it's not 'said' to be that, that's just a theory. A good theory, but don't pass it off as pure fact

[@steshka1015]

I forgot who is Podrick

[@grimsgraveyard3598]

Did you know the books were better than the show but he wrote himself into a corner with his penchant for shock value killing off main characters.

[@danielrodriguez5165]

No, i though it was fine. She was just annoyed by him a little kinda like when you get mad at your younger sibling out of love because they keep messing up and you’re constantly worried or annoyed.

[@yuhyuh2268]

Love it

[@FathersUnited-fu]

You can only pick one as your friend: Hodor or Podrick?

[@tuckernutter]

I really hope she settles down and becomes a battle trainer

[@tami3456]

That's such a shame, brienne and podrick are really likeable characters. Another example of something ruined by Dumb & Dumber.

[@rocthaice24]

they are in the show it’s just not as morbid without the stone heart thing

[@luismcfarland711]

Hey isn't this the second time podrick almost gets hung / hanged ?

[@John_36]

What is the book called?

[@MariaMartinez-bg4lb]

I'm soo late but this is the A Song Of Ice And Fire saga. This is the fourth book "A feast for Crowns".

[@John_36]

@@MariaMartinez-bg4lb Thank you

[@jamie_d0g978]

Their constant obsession with make Brienne a conplete asshole was one if not the first red flag I had with the show. She's so sweet in the books, even with Hyle Hunt, wich she despises, she just can't be as mean as she wants

[@johns1625]

If anything happens to Jamie in the next book I'm going to be severely pissed because I already can't stand Catelyn Stark (stoneheart) and never was much a fan of Brienne either. She dedicates her life to whatever wanders in front of her and then "kind of forgot" about the consequences of that later.

[@marcusbrown6079]

Does catelyn still have podrick as a hostage?

[@Aitchdeeaye]

Does Podrick die by hanging in the books?

[@superphrank4804]

Lady stoneheart is one of the biggest ommitions in the show.

[@timjackson6888]

I didn't read the book..... did podrick die?

[@KhanSaab-pi6sw]

Wait, did Pod die?

[@iLdx25]

im assuming not, since she decides trial by combat

[@FLShift]

You should fix the sound and reupload because this is unwatchable

[@razinghavoc7419]

The books are so much better. They're on a different level. The show was still good until the later seasons.

[@himbo2335]

Please don’t use AI art : (

[@richardthomas9497]

People are hanged. Tapestries are hung.

[@gabriellegomez2005]

looks like Im too early for the comments. I'll be back.

[@raptorshifter1032]

It’s cuz she can’t get Pod the Rod

[@wyattolson6596]

Dude some of us are trying to read the books… thanks for spoiling Pods death

[@bull2808]

That’s because the show went woke feminist. Look who had creative control over the show and books.

[@ihitonmilfs]

artists need to stop trying to make brienne look beautiful

[@chimpout]

The show was very "modern" at times forcing the girls vs boys dynamic so much it had these girl boss moments that always stood out

[@susanwojcickisnicetwin]

Makes me happy I've read the books and not seen the show.

[@jessemcdonald5124]

Didn't like the show. However I've been waiting years for book 6

[@lordinvex1406]

Sooooo many differences from book to tv and people bitch about the two last seasons. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@iLdx25]

all my homies love podrick

[@HerbCoswellBornAgain]

Do you even like the show dude?

[@justinlast2lastharder749]

Books Brienne is one of the few "worse in the books" characters. Everything about Catelyn Stark after Death is complete shite in the books.

[@obsidian00]

The show did A LOT of things wrong...😑

[@Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye]

KZbin is drunk again.

[@jasonmendoza2044]

Just because they did something differently doesn’t mean that they “ruined” it. Seven hells people are so dang obsessed with being negative lol

[@iLdx25]

this doesnt sound a lot cooler than what their relationship in the show is????

[@fredesca8648]

I rather like that D&D dropped the Lady Stoneheart plot. Her ressurection cheapens the tragedy of the Red Wedding.

[@Celtic_Blade]

Hanged*

[@Brellowcrop]

Hanged