How The Snap On/Harbor Freight Wrench Saga Changed His Perspective On Tools…

[@260Jake]

This is seriously fantastic. I am an independent tool truck distributor. There are tons of great brands. Sunex, GW, Knipex, VIM, Astro, Lang, Lisle. I sell a 232 piece set of tools lifetime warranty for under $325 on payments to new techs. Wrench sets, allen keys, 1/4" and 3/8" ratchets and sockets shallow and deep metric and standard. Starting techs need more tools. As you mentioned, you can buy the top quality later. Lube and tire techs making $12-15 an hour trying to pay rent and put food in their stomachs do not need $700 wrench sets to start. Great content!

[@WalkerSmallEnginePerformance]

Yep. Seeing a kid graduating tech school with a $30K tool debt before they are even working is sad.

[@Freedom_is_better_than_safety]

Some tech schools and tool dealers are hurting the industry. If you make a great tool then the great techs will eventually graduate to it despite the price. But it has to be such a shift in technology to demand the price. Otherwise…..price your tool to what the industry will support. If you don’t believe me, ask the vehicle manufacturers. They can’t sell $70k trucks and we can’t afford them anymore than we can afford $700 basic wrench sets. Be honest about the financing by posting the cash price and the financing price.

[@260Jake]

@@Freedom_is_better_than_safety now that’s a cool idea! I’m gona use that. Post a cash price and a financed price. That’s great!

[@260Jake]

@@WalkerSmallEnginePerformance totally agree with that!!

[@MarcS-mp1je]

@260Jake, im not sure if you are aware, but Lisle among other companies make some specialty tools for Snap On, Mac and Matco which just put their names on them and hike up the price. Way back in my younger mechanic days I bought a set of Snap On pipe wrenches off the truck and years later I noticed a WF logo on them, as in the same Western Forge that made many tools that were branded as Craftsman. Don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing wrong with the tools. I still use them to this day, but if hindsight was 20/20, I would’ve paid a hell of a lot less for them. The same as my Matco plier set that was made channelock. Knowledge is power.

[@elrobo3568]

I am older than you and started wrenching in the 50's. I was a jet mechanic in the USAF on F-4, A-7 and F-16 fighters for 14 years. I also worked at mines as a heavy mechanic. I thought the same as you. I recently started inventorying my tools and stopped at a few hundred thousand. (I have two shops) I have a lot of Snap On, Proto etc. I started buying Harbor freight about 5 years ago. I have found them mostly the same quality as snap on type and I tell young mechanics starting to start with Harbor Freight and if they want to get others later do so. The reputation they had is gone and they sell lifetime warranted tools now. I have 6 Snap On and Craftsman "taco wagons" and recently tried out the HF big boxes and found them really good.

[@edgarrivas5791]

As long as you remain unbiased, I will watch. Your direct sincerity goes a long way. Appreciate the feedback.

[@TruthSeekerIsEverything]

What's unbiased? Just an opinion you like and agree with vs one that you don't haha

[@privatepilot4064]

My Dad’s old time Craftsman were excellent tools. I got away from the tool truck addiction many years ago and have many “low end tools” that have served me well for many years and continue to do so.

[@V8sRuleTheEarth]

This video made me subscribe. My Dad is an instructor and I’ve been telling him for YEARS that he needs to encourage his students to look at these other brands instead of going into extreme debt with these tool trucks. I really hope your videos can convince just ONE mechanic getting into this trade that they don’t need that $700 set of wrenches. I’m still trying to work on my Dad.

[@1pcfred]

I'd rather have $700 worth of tools I can pick up at Harbor Freight than just one set of wrenches. $700 worth of Harbor Freight tools would be half a tool box full. You could have wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, pliers, hammers, etc. Down the road when you have a full set of tools you can buy expensive tools here and there. Snap-on is always going to have speciality tools too.

[@EnriqueReyesJrREALTOR]

I have Snap On hand tools, since the 1970’s. They are definitely the go to tools, however when you are starting out, or just can’t afford them, buy check best tools you can afford. Later on, if you want Snap On or your preferred tool, buy it. But you can’t work without tools.

[@MarshWaha]

I would agree with the sentiment too even though I am not an auto technician. I am actually a mountain Road and BMX bike mechanic. It’s the same deal. I remember when I first started working on bikes I used a lot of the wrenches that my dad already had granted they were not snap on or Craftsman they were Duracraft, but they worked and as time went on and as I made more money, then I went for something little more expensive like Park Tool. So yeah, it makes a lot of sense. You know if you’re gonna invest in tools, see if you have something that you can start out with already or find something that’s cheap to start with. It’s the same way when I had to get a repair stand. I started out with a $30 repair stand and it worked for a year or two then eventually I moved up and I got a little bit more expensive repair stand mean you can’t work without tools and you especially can’t work without tools.

[@JohnTaylor-bd1uy]

Agreed!

[@JohnTaylor-bd1uy]

​@1pcfred Icon makes as good if not better hammer than Snap on for less than half the cost. 54$ vs 130$.

[@pastorbobncc365]

Used craftsman my whole life, currently 71, built several Harleys, worked on everything, love Craftsman.

[@Tomsnothere]

I'm 70 and also always used Craftsman, since I was 15. The only tools I've replaced were ones I've lost in an engine somewhere. They're probably still in there, lol.

[@PhoenixUnlimited]

I’m 42, still have the set my Dad got me for my first car for Christmas at 16. Only thing I’ve ever had to warranty is the ratchets. Sad that they are made in China now.

[@ironworkerfxr7105]

True guys, the early stuff was great

[@ralphnewcomejr]

Brother, I'm 55 been a Boilermaker an IRONWORKER & ALL KINDS of side jobs I've counted on Craftsman & Channel lock & Stanley & Klein...Well & Lufkin for my measuring tools all my life. And I CAN'T forget about Crescent!!!

[@robbalinski1606]

The old craftsman was decent stuff, the new stuff is garbage. There's places where the expensive tools like snap-on or mac will save you time and money. Mainly just stuff like wrenches and crows feet, flare nut wrenches. I used to keep a roof over my head with my tools theres just certain tools you can clearly see the difference in quality.

[@stevedyer5902]

I retired in 2020 after 43 years at an aerospace company. I knew I would be spending lots more time at home, so I decided to treat myself to a new top and bottom toolbox to replace my tired, mid-level, craftsman boxes. I compared craftsman, husky, cobalt, and then was told about US General at Harbor freight. The Harbor freight toolbox set was the clear winner. Great quality and free drawer liners. Not a single regret. Handy trays are also available which fit perfectly inside the drawers for smaller items.

[@aaadamt964]

My current box is matco. My next box will be us general. Husky boxes are junk. Truck boxes are great but insanely priced.

[@spresc2180]

I too am very happy with my Harbor Freight U.S. General toolbox.

[@rihovaher]

Hello to everyone from the Republic of Estonia! I also have many personal tools. China, Taiwan. I read from your comments that a mechanic in the USA, UK, and CANADA must have a personal collection of tools to do the work. In Estonia, we have everything from the employer, even though Estonia is a poor country, none a mechanic working in a company to buy wrenches for himself. Why does a worker in a rich country have to buy wrenches for himself.

[@samhellweg6271]

My nearly 30 year old snapon box was badly warn, replaced about 7 years ago with us general, no regrets, coworkers asked why not another snapon, I can buy almost 10 usg boxes for the same $$ as 1 snapon, so I did buy a snapon emblem from ebay and put on it to pacify them

[@aaadamt964]

@spresc2180 I had the first generation 44" top and bottom. It was a great box but only 14-16" deep. I sold it to a buddy that still uses it. It still looks and functions like new. I'm not exactly sure when I got it. 2011 maybe. I'd love to have the new 72" and the cart that's just drawers. I have the 5 drawer I've been using in a shop for 5-6 years I'd say. The only thing I've done is buy swivel casters to replace the fixed casters. I had the original 5-drawer but it was stolen. I feel like the money to quality ratio makes them the best boxes out there. The truck brands may be nicer but I don't think their price is justified.

[@richardstone5241]

I am 71 years old and have a set of Craftsman that I bought when I was 16 years old. They have been used a lot and are still going strong. Over the years I have replaced a few tools, mostly my screw drivers but there was never an issue to getting them replaced (no questions asked).

[@christopherharsha7102]

To be truthful harbor freight icon tools have been a blessing indisguised for a lot of people nowadays

[@oceancon]

Yeah hard to admin but its true. For us shadetree, weekend guys, most of the time they work rather well. Not saying of course that I dont have some high end stuff too. But if you're not depending on making a living with tools, the other tool types are a good option. IMO of course

[@christopherharsha7102]

Yes of course the tool truck has the specialty tools and certain tools on the the truck we need but jumping in the game nowadays we have a options of not getting in dept

[@dochaze1]

Snap on made sense when way back when I worked in a shop, the shop bought the tools and they were shared amongst the techs. That way they got more use and you got more value out of them. The snap on guy would inventory those tools and replace any lost or broken. Plus, being owned by the shop, they were a tax deduction for owner. This whole thing where every tech has to have his own massive tool box is only a couple decades old and is such a waste. I’d guess it was pushed by the tool industry. I can’t fathom owning a shop and not having tools and relying on any tech to bring them to you. You basically just own a building with a lift at that point.

[@Andy-gw7hd]

@@dochaze1yea but how many techs will steal tools while working or when they know there about to loose job then the tools will be a stress for owners trying to keep eyes on who gots what

[@dochaze1]

@ well, it only takes one idiot to screw things up for everybody.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Look forward to it man, testing in perfect lab like setting is good in all, because data is data. But it's all somewhat worthless without practical use and experience like this. When we use tools, it's not always the ones at the top of our ranking for one reason or another. No one channel is the final word in anything, especially us

[@brianrosenlof388]

Well stated.

[@willhutton1516]

There’s also comparison when it comes to “how simple can a tool get” before the pricing is simply for the name. My work uses Milwaukee M12 Gen 1 literally only for running bolts in and out. Torque them all by hand to “good ‘n tight” torque specs. Mostly cause impacts can’t tell if a bolt is truly bottomed out or not. We use Tekton extended allen sockets. And Crescent branded toolkits. Includes screw drivers, Allen wrenches sockets, and standard wrenches. 1/4-1/2 drive. Currently working on my Hercules collection after my dad’s been a Dewalt guy. Most used tool I ever saw him use was his Miter saw. Plug in, lights flickered every time it turned on, etc. have had it for over 20 years, and it’s still running strong.

[@moose354]

It's nice to get the perspective from somebody who actually turns wrenches for a living - reliable information without the hype. Thanks. BTW, forty years ago, HF wrenches were crap, the tolerances were really bad. They have come along way in forty years as long as you don't buy from their Pittsburg line.

[@jacksmith2315]

Even the newer Pittsburgh isnt terrible. Especially for DIY. A shop i worked at, the manager had the 300 piece Pittsburgh set as a road tool kit. Never had real bad issues with them.

[@panheadpastor453]

I have a few sets of 3/4 &1" drive impact sockets in the Pittsburg and honestly I can say I've never cracked or broke any I'm a welder fabricator so most of them don't get used every day but working on heavy equipment that's ran in dirt and mud them bolts are pretty much locked on and I've had to run air pressure up on a compressor that delivers 20 + cfm to 150 psi + to brake bolts lose with a impact that is rated at 1800 foot pounds at 90 psi. And the sockets that get used almost daily with the erection of steel, I don't think we've wore one out or broke any, it's a given that they used get lost or stolen before they get wore out. And that said if your furnishing tools to guys on crews that don't care like you would why would you spend the money to watch it disappear. Even the electric tools that I would but high end would never make it long enough to be worth the price of them because they were lost stollen or just destroyed in a way that the warranty didn't cover lifetime or not. So I furnish the mid to higher end harbor freight line to the crews and even if you get a bad one or it gets broke harbor freight will replace it . Some electric tools you may have to but the extended warranty for a year or 2 but even with that I come out ahead on tool cost in the long run. As like I said something usually happens to it by the time is out of warranty lost stollen or just left somewhere other than back on the truck.

[@stevecase2912]

​@@jacksmith2315 Pittsburgh is better than what it used to be. However, it is still tier three at HF behind tier 2 Quinn and Doyle and tier 1, ICON. It's great that HF can compete with the big boy with ICON,

[@Rook02715]

The honesty and transparency you provide is appreciated.

[@benjaminjordan2762]

I've been pulling wrenches since my preteens. Birthday and Christmas I asked for tools. Since we were poor, I asked for Craftsman because they were affordable, American made, and lifetime warranty. I still have most of my original wrench set. That being said when I went to work for an oilfield service company at 42, starting over from scratch, I told the young guys, hiring on straight out of school, to buy the less expensive tools to start with. Then buy the higher end stuff and pay cash or charge it on a credit card to build credit, but pay off the card every month. I'm 56 now with 16 plus professional certifications. I started on lawn equipment, worked up to 2500+ hp diesels and now back to lawn equipment. Everything is lighter, which my severe arthritis prefers. Thank you for the good video.

[@ralphsperspective5015]

Hey man, I am a dummy with carburetors but I know a few fixes for humans. Think about eating only meat for a few weeks and see that pain disappear. When that works, just slowly add other foods back to your diet. Look up a Dr. Shawn Baker if you want someone with a Dr in their name supporting this claim. If I eat certain foods I experience what I believe to be what you are describing and wow, it is so easy to give up bread and noodles to not deal with that annoying pain. Cheers.

[@jonathaneissler1463]

I love the “Open Mind” mentality. So refreshing.

[@Jordendog]

Slinging tools for 50 years, I had Craftsman forever. You are correct that Snap On was the go-to when things got tough in the early days. Now, there are several brands that are similar in quality and work very well and are in my toolboxes. Thanks again for the insight.

[@johndavis318]

@Jordendog I have some early Craftman sockets from the early 70's and I absolutely love them. However Craftsman in later years ther sockets went to hell. I had and employee come in one day and I was doing a frt. brake job. He was standing there showing me his new sockets and I needed a different socket so I ask to use one of his. Standard ratchet. I put it on there and put some pressure on it and it broke in two pieces. I almost broke my damn hand. I was so disappointed in the loss of quality. I had many others say the same thing. They really went down hill from the earlier sockets. I have always used Snap On wrenches only because they were always sleeker than Craftman.

[@1pcfred]

Snap-on is sometimes marginally better. Say 10%. But you're going to pay 10 times for that 10%. That's a bitter pill to swallow. Does anyone really need to push things to the edge? I question the mechanical aptitude of those that do.

[@johndavis318]

@1pcfred Well stated.💯

[@terryjackson3255]

as a mechanic for several years. I can honestly say we need more guys like you in our shops. Most are such a stressful and negative investment. Thanks for being a good influence.

[@SHIMHEAD1]

Just want to say I really appreciate your videos. I retired in 2022 after 42 years as a tech and Shop Foreman at a multi-franchise dealership. I tried to support Snap-On/Mac/Matco. I also have realized that quality choices are there at several price points. I would love to see some videos focused on recommended tools etc. for the beginning tech. Also maybe a few about basic repair processes and diagnostic techniques. I mentored multiple new techs, and certainly getting them started on the right foot and instilling that logical/critical thinking process is SO important. If you don't know how it works, then fixing it is a guessing game. I still have that desire to learn more, and tried to foster that in others. I was fortunate enough to succeed and got rewarded by competing in NISTEC with Nissan in 1997, and again with Infiniti in 1999. Served on the ASE Board of Governors for a term. Master or Gold Tech with Nissan/Infiniti/Mercedes/Porsche/Rolls-Royce. Trained in Maserati/Alfa-Romeo/Land Rover as well. All that, and 6 years at an independent import shop too. What you are doing with your videos is fantastic. Keep giving it your all, and broaden it a bit. Lastly, check out Martin Loren's HScope products, inexpensive way to get into oscilloscopes. Look up "the GADGETS playlist" on KZbin for more.....

[@JeffKrambeer]

You are 100% on point. I started back in the '70s and my box has mostly Snap-On in it. For me I'm pretty much done buying more tools except to replace what I lose, or that special new socket that only fits certain applications, but what we are getting from Snap-On today isn't what it once was, And they are pricing themselves out of business. I enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work.

[@ElectroAtletico]

The tool DOES NOT make the Mechanic. Not Snap-On, not Harbor Freight. Sometimes a tool that is "good enough" is the one to chose.

[@theroyaltyautoservice]

Agreed! Thanks for watching!

[@shiddd]

except Pittsburgh all they do is round bolts and slip

[@KeithWheeler-ey1pw]

Yes, and it’s knowing how to use tools with your hands and solving problems and working around them with what you have and can afford

[@Conservator.]

@@shidddSo they are the best when you need rounded bolts. 😝

[@TheRetiredtech]

​@@shidddnot necessarily true. I have some Pittsburgh tools I am fine with .. I have had a few snapon tools I haven't been happy with. As a professional not in Auto I have some tool failures Snap On refused to honor warranty on. Many people besides automotive techs use tools.

[@tommyk1073]

I bought my set of 3/8” impact sockets from Capri tools..Snap On was ridiculous!! Those sockets have been great, absolutely no complaints..I agree with you 100%..

[@4valveduc]

This video came at the perfect time because my 11th grade son is in an auto tech program where his schoolday is 1st half at the tech campus and 2nd half back at the high school. I have been trying to explain this to him and how he doesn’t need a $10000 toolbox or get into crazy debt starting out, and start making money first then upgrade. I told him my wife and myself will help him out with tools to start, but when he starts working, the rest is on him. Keep,up,the great videos! 👍🏻

[@anthonyiannone7618]

If i can offer some advice to your son , get into one of the building trades , work on cars as a hobby / side hustle . Electrician , Plumber , HVAC all skills you will need to know as an auto mechanic but you will never make anywhere near the amount the building trades do. the amount of money you will spend on tools in your life is staggering , none of the trades come anywhere close to that. If he insists on being a mechanic dont work on passenger cars , go fleet , government or heavy equipment.

[@4valveduc]

@@anthonyiannone7618 Thank you Sir, ironically he has also mentioned the electrician trade as well. I am also trying to point him into a municipality position because of the pension and benefits if he wants to stay with mechanics.

[@z37iw47]

This guy's advice is 100%. I'm 20 years in I wish I would have listened.

[@upptowne]

@@anthonyiannone7618 You are giving good advise. Snap On debt is the same thing as student loans to a young mechanic

[@rihovaher]

Hello to everyone from the Republic of Estonia! I also have many personal tools. China, Taiwan. I read from your comments that a mechanic in the USA, UK, and CANADA must have a personal collection of tools to do the work. In Estonia, we have everything from the employer, even though Estonia is a poor country, none a mechanic working in a company to buy wrenches for himself. Why does a worker in a rich country have to buy wrenches for himself.

[@gorillaman08zx]

I originally started watching your channel on some of the diagnostic stuff, but I was really impressed to see that you were honest about the tool reviews and telling these mechanics not to go bankrupt starting out. I’ve bought a bunch of Snap-On Tools and I’ve been burned on several of them, including their garbage drills.

[@richardriley32]

i remember my initial loan from snap-on. I spent about 3k on a wrench set a few socket sets and a impact gun. It was a huge mistake.

[@1pcfred]

We learn from mistakes. Or we keep making the same mistakes. It sounds to me like you've learned from your mistake. There's nothing wrong with Snap-on. But like they say with gambling, bet with your head, not over it. Every now and again it's nice to get an indulgence. But keep it reasonable.

[@AdventureswithB.O.B.]

You may be able to buy snap-on outside the shop but good luck trying to contact the local truck to warranty a tool. Dude 100% refused to work with me because I wasn't in a shop or had a million $ in tools. So I literally sold ALL of my snap-on stuff and bought all Harbor Freight. I can get a tool replaced that day with no problems at all.

[@1pcfred]

I usually don't break tools and when I do it's totally my fault. So I really don't care about warranties. I just eat it and buy another tool. Usually a better tool. Although you're not going to find better than Snap-on. Then maybe I need the right tool?

[@jwa718]

This is why you readily keep on hand your purchase receipts OR call them directly!

[@zachroberts1988]

@@1pcfred snap on isnt always the best... dont be fooled!

[@1pcfred]

@@jwa718 if folks were good with paper most of them wouldn't be in the trades.

[@lejoshmont2093]

@@jwa718 you know some companies don't ask for a receipt or proof of purchase to warranty a tool.

[@jimmoore3143]

I love your videos. They’re done with the patience and passion that a great teacher shows. You really seem to have a desire to not gate keep the automotive repair industry but to assist others and pass on valuable knowledge that you have attained throughout your long career. Very much appreciated sir.

[@Offroader451-rm5jz]

I'm subscribed now. Got out of the service in 78 and started wrenching for a steel company. I got em all Craftsman, Snap On, Proto, Mac, Matco, Blackhawk. There's a world of difference between wrenches on a plastic plug and your knuckles eating it on a rusted bolt when the wrench slips.

[@johnrpizzaguy]

I couldn’t agree more. When I started 41 years ago we didn’t have many options, and we did not go to trade schools creating debt before you even turned a professional wrench. This video is great advice coming from someone with many years of experience and $$$ invested. Take care everyone and listen to Sherwood. Happy Holidays from Pismo Beach California

[@rihovaher]

Hello to everyone from the Republic of Estonia! I also have many personal tools. China, Taiwan. I read from your comments that a mechanic in the USA, UK, and CANADA must have a personal collection of tools to do the work. In Estonia, we have everything from the employer, even though Estonia is a poor country, none a mechanic working in a company to buy wrenches for himself. Why does a worker in a rich country have to buy wrenches for himself.

[@bobthebuilder6315]

Finally, someone else with an open mind. You don't need to buy the most expensive tools to make a living. I've worked with young guys that their tool bill was bigger than my mortgage. I had an old timer tell me when I was just getting started, you'll never get rich turning wrenches, and although there are a very small % that have 90+% will not. I'm 63 now and have approx 2 to 3 hundred K in tools and vehicles that run always my home, and property is only worth 150 K And if I go to sell all my tools, I might be lucky to get less than a 1/3 of what I invested in them. My advice is don't waste your $ on the most expensive tools, $ can buy take the difference and put it in your pocket.

[@mikehannigan848]

I had a buddy who inherited a ton of money from his dad drop 120k on his snapon tools while he went to the local trade school (he bragged about those tools man let me tell you) within 4 months of getting into a shop he had an suv jump off the lift and pin him to a wall...he quit and those tools have been sitting around unused for almost 20 years... no one felt bad for him, I told him he has a questionably more useful set of tools than a friend of mine who spent 7k on all his tools including a $2300 toolbox and literally no one else in the world cares what brand his wrenches were...what a waste of resources.

[@ARAMP1]

I'll start out by shamelessly admitting I'm a Snap On fan boy. I love the honesty out of curiosity. You've earned my sub.

[@theroyaltyautoservice]

No shame in that! Have always been as well. Looks like we are gonna learn together! Appreciate the sub! 👍

[@joshuared1000]

This is 100% why I love your channel!! Because you guys are legit and very helpful!!

[@amac8487]

Technology, machining, engineering, and manufacturing has gotten WORLDS better over the years, allowing most all products, not just tools, to become equally as impressive as its competitors.

[@mikenicholson2548]

Great video. Thanks for being up front. You are a true honest man.

[@935mapache]

Snap on can quickly become Strap- On if you greased enough 😂

[@kriswingert1662]

I worked in the repair center in PA for 20 years. Trust me, we have been saying this for YEARS.

[@mcr9303]

😂😂😂best comment i have ever read about snap-on, i mean strap-on😂😂😂epic😅

[@Thomas63r2]

God bless you for thinking of the new techs starting out! New techs typically do not have much bank and are balancing the need for good tools with their need for a good life. I am a senior so I no longer buy many tools - but I have been amazed at how some lower end tool lines have seriously upped their game. Not on all tools, but the tool business has become increasingly competitive.

[@thomasjefferson1081]

I’m a diy guy. But Tekton has impressed me greatly. I just changed the upper control arms on my Jeep Liberty CRD and put myself and especially the Tekton 3/8” deep 18mm socket thru pure hell With a six ft pipe for leverage I got it loose and the socket held. Used an old 10mm Craftsman and that snapped and the tekton didn’t. And on another project the 1/4” torque wrench wouldn’t click. Sent them a pick and got new one in 2 days

[@TraydonDunkheel]

I’m a diyer too I love Tekton, GW, Capri and have bought some Olsa sockets. I also have a bunch of older USA Craftsman and some HF stuff. Hard truth I’ll never be able to afford Snap-on as a hobbyist. The brands I mentioned above have been a godsend for me.

[@lejoshmont2093]

Yea my jobs are slowly adding up I haven't completely opened an engine up yet but I have yet run into an issue with the sockets. I am impressed they don't really seem to damage fasteners.

[@estebanvializ9985]

I hope you know how much the information in your videos helped me understand the life of the mechanic. I'm new to the mechanic side, and I'm forever grateful for your imputs and how to do things the right way. I'm starting my new job on Monday and can't wait to implement your advice. Keep at it. We are listening, and we'll keep our rachet moving.

[@nigelwelch6201]

After 45 years as a tech and now coming to the end of my career, I decided to sell all of my Snap On gear while the prices are high and made good money, I replaced them with cheap alternatives, I can honestly say I wish I had done it sooner, there are lots of good alternatives out there that are just as good. In the early days in the UK you only really had Snap On and Britool tools

[@sm400]

I mainly buy Facom now I've left the UK.....got a fair bit of broken Snap on tools can't easily warranty until go to Brexitsan next...

[@michaelmavity8008]

My stepson is starting out in the auto repair business, thank you for being so supportive of the new guys!

[@douglasphillips1203]

I just started as a mobile mechanic. My tools are all HF Pittsburgh that I bought 20 years ago. I've never, ever had one break on me in all my years of wrenching on my vehicles (and beating on them)

[@TheAlphahirogen]

I've broken a hex bit. Guess what, 10 minutes in the store and I had a new one! They also replaced a torque wrench that I had dropped to the floor for free as well (my own fault, but wrench was likely no longer in cal). The hex bit I expected, but the torque wrench was an added bonus.

[@bertwilson4311]

For me, it is a more about rounding a fastener than damaging a tool. But when it comes to tools, the nearest Harbor Freight is over 2,000 miles away from those of us living in Alaska. I'll buy an equivalent from SnapOn/Matco or Amazon when my HF tool fails.

[@kobrien61]

Sorry, I love most of my harbor freight stuff

[@solidsnake6405]

Lol I use to snap a 19mm impact every week like clockwork!! Got sick of running to harbor freight so I picked up a vintage snap on from eBay that lasted a month!! I swapped it on the truck and from then on I got less then 2 weeks from each socket!! Of course I was doing upwards of 100 cars a day!!😅😅 If they aren't breaking,you aren't using them enough!!!

[@03kwam65]

@@solidsnake6405100 cars a day🤨 must be do tire changes all day , even if so thats hard to believe . 🧢

[@gregorymurphy9980]

I admire your level of organization. That is probably the most important time saver. Not wasting time looking for that right tool when you need it.

[@randylee1954]

My coworker's Snap on tools were bought on credit and are now in pawn... My Icon are paid for and at work. Snap on's credit unit and prices are predatory to newer modern techs considering what is available. Gotta be able to stand up to that peer pressure until you can afford it

[@harleyhexxe9806]

Now THIS is useful to me, since I'm a DIYer and I love working on my own vehicles, and I'm trying to learn how to use my scan tool to its fullest potential. I'm at Harbor Freight all the time and I've noticed a lot of improvement in their tools. As long as I can keep learning useful information here, I'll keep subscribed to this channel, and you can bet I'll be looking through your video library for any immediate issues I happen to be working on. Thank you for sharing!

[@luvcheneywasalegend9168]

I have a mix of the following in my box... Snap on, Mac, Cornwell, Matco, USA Craftsman, SK, Proto, Armstrong, Duralast, Tekton, Carlyle, Lisle, Evercraft, Allen, Apex, Husky, Kobalt, Milwaukee, Stanley, DeWalt, Harbor Freight, Cheap Chinese no names and more. They all have their place in helping me do the job.

[@toma5153]

Sounds like my tool collection. I'd add in some ancient Plomb tools I also have. My potpourri of higher end tools has come from garage and estate sales and even Goodwill. A few specialty ones came from eBay, back when shipping was cheaper.

[@JamesAdams86]

Well said sir!

[@n.chappy5879]

AMEN! Same with me. I do sepend big bucks on certain things that save me money, where nobody else has that design weight, features etc. I have some cordless Mac tools that nobody makes 2 in particular! Yes everyone makes the tools but not 3 in one like the 3 inch buffer polisher sander and die grinder. YES DIE GRINDER will rip a hole thru anything and very light, I can't describe it unless, youve used it. I do custom builds and custom paint. It has saved my hand joints, time, etc, etc. Also their cordless buffer is better than my other 3 cordless and 2 corded buffers. Other than that, I have quite the mix of brands. A lot of guys look down on you for that, but I'm here to make money. So don't ever feel less accomplished or belittled because everything isn't from one big brand. Chappy out, keep it real💪🏽

[@UselessKnowledge904]

ICON can be looked at as heros. You got mechanics that have to buy their own tools. They can now get quality in the industry without eating thousands.

[@mikevandenboom5958]

I have been in manufacturing my whole life. Owned my own foundry and machine shop. Once upon a time North American made tools were top shelf. The material and labour were sourced locally. That is not the case anymore. Everything is brought in from overseas ( even the supposedly NA made tools. This and as you mentioned, technology and patent expiration has evened the playing field. My company specialized in Zinc and Aluminum castings I can tell you there is a difference between NA alloy and the Russian alloy for example. The spec's met the grade but there was a difference when pouring the metal.

[@1pcfred]

We have to put this country back on top. Bring once upon a time back again. Put on the red hat even.

[@ardoinsofkaty5671]

If it isn’t ’drop forged chrome vanadium’, I won’t use it.

[@jeraldhite9744]

I appreciate the honesty. I'm 61 I'm the typical do it yourself person. I've never owned snap-on because of the price. It's good to see someone looking out for a new person becoming a technician.

[@Eldoradoredd]

I'm from corporate America, manufacturing sector. What you described is called perceived value. If we make a product but sell it as a generic brand and a name brand most people will purchase the name brand. Example, Walmart brand of quart storage bags is actually manufactured by Glad. How do I know? I work for Clorox and we own Glad. Always remember the words perceived value.

[@charliemagoo7943]

Some tire plants make tires for different companies with the same mold but each company uses different compounds and essentially a different tire. So Sam's ware can be 1/2 thickness but still doable

[@dB_944]

For me, Harbor Freight is filling the void Sears left. It appears the new Craftsman tools are not so bad, and the HF stuff is getting better and you can walk in like you did Sears and get a replacement.

[@macgyver03ga]

Yep. Most people don’t understand what white labeling means. I own my own business and have become an expert in marketing over the years. I now do marketing for other people in my industry. It’s all about perception. Most of these tools or any consumer product for that matter are made by the same manufacturers in the same plants. That manufacturer has literal catalogs for companies to browse through of “blank” tools that allow you to engrave your brand name, or label, or colors or whatever and sell it to your customers. They’ll allow you to customize it slightly with your own specs, but they’re 95% the same. My dad worked in food manufacturing his entire career and still does some consulting in retirement. They do the same thing. A lot of the “store brands” of food are made by the same big brand name companies.

[@macgyver03ga]

@@dB_944Ace Hardware and Lowes sell Craftsman now. You can walk into an Ace or Lowes and swap out a broken tool and they’ll warranty it. I have done it recently. I have a bunch of Craftsman tools I’ve had for decades.

[@donniee1934]

Thank you. Honesty seems to be a rare commodity these days. Appreciate how you explained the controversy and your thoughts about the subject.

[@cheeterpasteen]

I saw a video you did about brake rotor runout a few months back and thought of that exact info doing the brakes on my daily driver yesterday, helped me remember to pay extra attention to cleanliness. You're doing a good thing here and have a great attitude that will go far helping the industry ignite with new techs. I super appreciate y'all! And keep saying new men and women in the industry, you're an example of good progress my friend. Cheers.

[@ToolBoxTour]

The barrier to entry in a field where you are required to buy your own tools is getting lower everyday. And I love it.

[@lejoshmont2093]

The hand tools are not the issue any more. Now days locked down software so they can charge you expensive ongoing subscriptions or flat out prevent one from doing a job is the new barrier to entry. The average person has no idea but I can imagine it has something to do with the ballooning cost of auto repair. The modern car is just as much computer as it is mechanical. I do wonder if vintage cars will become a thing of the past when the manufactures decide to turn the servers off making some repairs impossible.

[@paul4usc]

Excellent advice for young techs with limited resources to help them stretch their budget and build an effective toolset without breaking the bank. I'm in the DIY category so it doesn't make sense for me to spend a fortune on tools so I just subscribed to learn how to make the most of my diy'er budget. I look forward to checking out some of your other content.

[@Peter-c8y4n]

I’m not a mechanic. Enjoy your channel and learning / trying some DIY projects now. However the conversation makes me think of college education too. Young people are getting into serious debt going to private colleges. While a community college will many times provide a great education too and no debt if this is their path. All comes down to what the young person does with their education. Seems the same holds true here. Don’t go into high debt with the snap on brand when many options exist now for great young mechanics. As an aside I think many more young people should choose a trade over college nowadays. Can’t outsource their trade!

[@anthonydargenio3536]

When I was young and single and started my career in Aviation. I bought Snap on tools. After getting married having kids and a mortgage Snap on was out the window. A few years back I got on a snap on truck to trade in a broken light reel and a 1/2 inch ratchet. The guy on the truck would not make good on the lifetime guarantee. It was that moment that I will never by another snap on tool ever again.

[@rogerstlaurent8704]

I have heard of that before Snap On tool warranty is hit or miss Depending on how the Tool Truck Guy or Gal is some are very giving and some are not

[@slalomking]

Snap On a rip off

[@johnnymula2305]

I own an auto body shop. Luckily we dont need to have to upgrade our tools all that often. We’re working with body panels and interior trim. I restore vehicles as a side hobby. Which requires a lot more tools. As you know. Ive been using Harbor Freights tool Boxes and hand tools for well over& 20 years now. At the most, ive had was maybe a socket or two. Break. (Had 2 Matcos Break as well). I also have had my US General tool box for well over 15 years. And its been absolutely trouble free. Heres the bottom line. Do you want to put your hard earned money into investments. Which will pay you dividends? Or do you want to grossly over pay for hand tools that are so close in quality. And it makes your tool supplier rich? Keep your money folks! The trucks tools are absolutely Not worth buying!

[@PhoenixUnlimited]

Sometimes the tool is only as good as the rep. We’re fortunate at our shop, I can’t say enough good things about the guy.

[@paxtonquigley1725]

First class individual and a first class mechanic. Watch this channel and learn things. Thank you so- so much!!

[@hosocat1410]

Thank you for being honest. Snap on should be ashamed of how they, often in collusion with feckless instructors, placed extreme pressure on new techs to burden themselves with enormous debt at the very beginning of their careers.

[@danielbonner8309]

I work in construction and have spent a fair amount of money on tools but seeing some of these videos of how much a mechanic owes the snap on truck is mind blowing. My hats off to all mechanics.

[@Conservator.]

In the Netherlands (and probably all of Europe), technicians get salaries and will use the tools provided by their employer. Totally different system.

[@sm400]

Same in France and Spain....I'm English but currently working for someone else In Catalunya....first job I've had in 30 years😂😂😂...but I took one of my boxes there....but the whole Taller now is enamorat with my Facom and Snap on....😂😂..the Snap almost impossible to warranty in Europe...

[@djscrizzle]

Most unionized electrical and plumbing contractors in the USA are this way too. The employees have their pocket tools as their local union specifies, in their tool list. It's truly nice to not have to provide your own power and specialty tooling.

[@richardmckenney9434]

Been watching vids off and on but with you doing reviews on tools and getting honest techs opinion has made me subscribe. Thank you.

[@robertomilanecky]

Snap on ratchets are still the best, right behind them are GW, Tekton and Advance Auto Diehard brand. Snap on has its place, but you don’t need Snap on everything.

[@1pcfred]

Yeah for wrenches and sockets and drives Snap-on will always have a special place in my heart. But does anyone need it? Maybe if you're in the pit crew at the brickyard with a multimillion dollar sponsorship on the line. That describes very few. The rest of us have a moment to do things right.

[@vinichi3014]

No koken has them beat

[@robertomilanecky]

@ nah.

[@vinichi3014]

@robertomilanecky i have 8 snap on ratchet and 3 koken ratchets and I grab the koken first every time it has no back drag and can get in smaller places and is a strong ratchet

[@robertomilanecky]

@ ok.

[@dcw1211]

Love hearing common sense from passionate industry leaders!

[@danvance9113]

Do you remeber Proto tools?! Thatshow old i am they used to have a truck route too.

[@KeithWheeler-ey1pw]

Very good tools

[@jamms992]

Proto was the professional line of Stanley black and decker

[@jameshill4900]

They still make proto tools since Stanley bought thrm. I have both older and newer ones still made in the USA.

[@nyc8452]

There's better alternatives to ICON for the same price or less. Tekton springs to mind - they're a dedicated tool company , they source their tools from Taiwan as well as manufacturing some tools in the U.S. On top of that, they have an amazing warranty.

[@TXAslingr]

The whole point of the video^^^

[@biopop2587]

Tekton sockets are great

[@theroyaltyautoservice]

We plan on showcasing a lot of Tekton and other great companies out there. We agree that Tektok is a great option!

[@nyc8452]

@@theroyaltyautoservice love your work! Wish you were all over the country.

[@Stephen6492]

I'll definitely check Tekton out, but what I love about ICON is that it's so easy to replace a broken/worn tool. HF are everywhere, no receipt required, walk in and walk out with the replacement tool.

[@SteveKelbley]

I agree with you. The Quality of tools has changed. In my opinion, I believe certain companies/brands make a better tool then other companies. I would love to see you do a test on what tool company/brand makes the best combination wrench, 3/8” rachet, adjustable wrench, sockets, Allen wrench sets, breaker bars, etc… I wrench everyday as a mechanic at the worlds largest ketchup factory and have a wide range of tool brands and believe it would be interesting to see who you thought made the best tool for the price and quality out there! Thanks enjoy the post that you do!👍

[@eugeneanderson7984]

Im a professional Heavy equipment mechanic and have both. My 25 year old snap on wrenches are still sized correctly the harbor freight tools dont last. I have boxes similar to yours but they are heavily used I also have a 2007 Kenworth Service truck working on CAT. The Hercules 3/8 impact failed with in 2 years My Snap on still works fine overall Snap On made in America still service me well. I’ve spent well over $500,000.00 in tools over the last 40 years. Using tools on steel over the years has wear and when I break Snap On its replaced. My youth I worked field in Alaska where broken tools were not an option $3000.00 for a one way ticket to Fort Yukon. Thanks for the video.

[@flashover8231]

I'm an old school DYI mechanic that as a young man learned the basics doing small jobs, pumping gas, and watching some great mechanics and learning. The variety availability of tools today should be available to anyone starting out. Thanks Sherwood and Crew. ✌️

[@AcuraJ32]

I feel good stepping on a Snap on tool truck knowing that its still made in USA. I am referring to the wrenches,ratchets and sockets...Good quality and the brand is respected worldwide!

[@slalomking]

You must be rich to buy Snap On

[@emmcee476]

😅

[@sirknight2402]

Thank you for your honesty ,I am retired 35 years electric forklift mechanic I have a ton of snap-on and recently got some Icon tools to fill in some holes (forklift tools left some holes in my box ) and just doing automotive at home for me I couldn't justify snap-on . And man have I been impressed with the quality of the Icon tools ... I just can't get over it. at the price and quality I don't even hesitate to buy anything I might need AND they feel good in my hand.You guys that do this for a living know what I mean. that's one reason I never bought Mac tools I just didn't like the way they felt. Thanks for the review and look forward to more.

[@googledunce9872]

At this point Snap-on needs to lower their prices down to like 30% of where they're currently at. When they cost double of what the other brands cost, it makes sense to buy them. Not 10x

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

They’re going have to start running sales once a year , they could afford the 30% hit , they get a lot of traffic and people get loyal they rely on the loyalty , my snap on tools are in my house and if they weren’t ridiculously expensive they be where they belong 😂

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

He’s right about snap on / craftsman days , in the salvage yards it was even more critical to have the trucks tools” 🧰 and warranty. They had all the pneumatics that would last

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

I think wrench sets were about 280 he must be dipping into the 80s , I could be wrong I was a kid going on tool trucks watching everyone brag / complain about the newest tool they were sold on co-sign

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

@Tom-6502 that’s the problem with USA , the cost of manufacturing for Americans to profit is pennies overseas compared to here . Eventually snap on will have do something or just keep a niche market. They get contracts like ford government will always spend money here if it’s a option

[@macgyver03ga]

They don’t need to. As long as their customers perceive their tools are of better quality than others, they will still buy them and pay a premium for them. Plus whenever you finance tools like they do, you’ll have a “forever” cash flow model. They understand the time value of money. Let’s say your cost to produce a tool is the same as icon. HF sells that icon wrench for 1/3 the cost of the snap on. HF earns their profit this year, then they’re only as good as their next sale. Snap on has the same cost, remember. But they spread their profits over time WITH INTEREST so they end up earning more money over the next few years. Consistent cashflow over time keeps companies around for a long time. Are they losing some customers? Sure, but not at a precipitous rate that they can’t adjust their business to adapt.

[@SamHarper-j3v]

Good information for DYI mechanics, thank you for your objective feedback on tools.

[@chadstoudt2580]

Torque test channel already settled this. Snap on wins but the icon stuff is really good for the money.

[@1pcfred]

We love Pushy!

[@StolenWifi]

My good sir. You have earnestly and wholesomely earned my sub and notification. Amazing to see someone that actually cares about the consumer and not just trying to make a quick buck from sponsors. Keep on brother💪🏼

[@KAS_Motorsports]

Can’t forget Cornwell

[@KeithOtisEdwards]

Yeah! I think those are better than Snap-Off.

[@sidewayssedan4024]

yall are awesome! cant wait to see the tool reviews as well as more diagnostic videos. Ive learned so much already and cant wait to see whats next. cheers.

[@markdixon392]

The moment that your videos have the appearance of a commercial, folks will tune out. I have enjoyed your content and honesty. Your thoughts are a gift to a lot of people. Thank you for the effort in posting content.

[@andresmejia7741]

Excellent video ....Hope a lot of young tech can see this ! and believe it !

[@michaeledwards6335]

Really liked this video. Thank you. I agree with you 100%. I have been buying Snap On since 1975 and still have my first set of wrenches and my first Bi-Centennial tool chest I purchased in 1976. I loved to see Snap-On pull in the lot. Now I just feel they have priced themselves out of business. It is just sad to me. I want to buy but refuse to pay the price they want. They are good. Maybe the best but not worth it anymore.

[@76insider]

Young guys/gals pay attention to this man! Great video. I remember spending bulk money on the snap on truck during my apprenticeship... 30 years later I still have most of them but haven't brought any new since leaving the trade. The tools at the local repco/hardware store are so much better quality than they used to be and a fraction the cost. For Top brand tools I'll generally get them on the second hand market.

[@jnajjar2687]

Being retired I have a snap on box full of S O tools, but when it comes to needing new tools. Like you Sherwood I’ve been really surprised by the quality, availability and price of the “newer” tools. I’ll never get away from the lifetime warranty however limited that means for me! 😢 great video man, looking forward to seeing the sequels!👍

[@gregblau8082]

I got into working on European cars a few years ago and needed a bunch of tools so I've been trying some of these newer options. Most of them make the warranty process very easy but I've had a couple problems. I always take into account can I write it off if I can't get it replaced

[@harmonk8012]

That's how I found your channel. That video certainly got the ball rolling.

[@31acruz]

Great channel. I first found you guys when you did a video on BRAKES, which was really well done, showed you don't cut corners and how you assure the brake job is top quality. After that I kept looking.

[@vetteluvnh]

Really appreciate the honesty & objectively in your videos. Thank you

[@markjones7073]

As a DIY mechanic I have been saying for years that Harbor Freight tools were a great value. Glad to see others are considering them to be among some of the "best" for professional techs.

[@michaelg7713]

Great video…. Debt in any industry is a very serious concern on many levels… Using resources efficiently is paramount in any successful business. Thank you

[@86azarate]

Koken tools have been winning me over lately. Definitely quality and ingenuity in their tools. VIM too has some great tools too. I’m like you, I have a ton of professional tools now. But started with craftsman which I still have and are now in my house tool box.

[@Bwhit26]

Sherwood, you’re a natural. Thank you

[@PopesCustomLife]

Oh god, best thing ever. I love this approach to new techs and more. If you could find a quality comparison on a fluke meter alternative under $50 for 12v.

[@oddballindustries9288]

Love the content gentleman. You should do a buyers guide on sockets and wrenches ranging from the best budget set to the best mid range set and then the best high-end set from your experience

[@gregkelly319]

Love the diagnostic stuff, but I think the tool 🔧 test will be cool and interesting. Thanks to you, and the comment section for sharing your knowledge for us diy guys. Learned alot from all of y'all!

[@ScottyLo]

I like seeing the tool comparisons. I think you explained the changes in the quality of tools and how and when to spend money on a higher end tool rather than diving right into debt when it’s not necessary.

[@stepheneggert9474]

I love what your reviewing..i resqused an old Rotary in ground lift. From an old gas station.. from 1980. I restored it used truck bed liner on the casing ..barried it in my garage floor i love it..open floor space. In my home garage

[@Mr2004MCSS]

Great video. I'm just a DIY'er but have been working on vehicles for over 40 years and have amassed a large number of tools over the years and in a lot of different brands. In my early days almost everything I bought was Craftsman and I still have most of these tools today. In the mid 90's I was watching an informercial on TV about a tool kit called Metrinch. They showed it being used with an impact gun and the sockets and wrenches worked on the flat sides of the bolts instead of on the points. Each socket and wrench also worked on both SAE and Metric. I was interested and bought the 48-piece set. This tool set ended up being the one I have used probably 95% of the time since then. Over the years I have only broke one socket and the original ratchet is still going strong. They also have a lifetime warranty. I also later bought the 76-piece set but still use my original set the most. They are still in business, but you don't hear anything about them these days. The only Snap-On stuff I own is some of their pliers and a few specialty tools and most of that was bought on Ebay.

[@Don-s5d]

I also have a set of metwrench

[@cennsa140driver]

I'm a serious DIY working on cars, trucks, backhoes and small aircraft. I don't make a living at it and HF tools work for me. Especially the big wrenches and sockets for the backhoe for the occasional time I need them.

[@67hako]

Started to use I.C.O.N tools over 2 years ago, and no complain and supper quality for the price!!!!

I’m similar to you in experience and age. My tools are very similar to yours. I have so many snap on tools it took me thirty years to get them all. But if you’re starting out there is no need to go right to the tool truck. It actually is amazing how much better choices are out there by comparison to 30 years ago.

[@billseay6399]

Hey thanks Loving it big guy but im a craftsman guy and thanks for another great video love it

[@Gearheaddeluxe]

SnapOn is following suit of Craftsman with how they don't want to replace broken tools. Gave up on them along time ago and I make it just fine in the shop.

[@GhostShip682]

Love your channel/FB page. Stumbled on it one day and have been a viewer since. I’m a DIY guy, fiddle with my old Grand Marquis. Would I like to have “top end” tools? Sure. Do I “need” them, probably not. Just need a quality set of sockets, hand tools, wrenches, etc. keep up the great content.

[@jasonfeaster4154]

I enjoy your videos well before the snap on post blew up. Just having a well rounded individual person that's honest on KZbin is awesome

[@johnshorey5762]

Love this. My son just started trade school and will need to buy his entire tool set when he graduates. I agree there is a point in time that he'll need to get an extremely reliable set of tools, but not right out of school.

[@knp447]

Have him start buying tools now, a little bit at a time. My son graduated a year ago. It's really expensive to get everything they need. My son is 21 with a degree and he's a certified Honda Mechanic with multiple ASE certs. At payday he often ends up at about $400 a week. He works at a dealership full-time.

[@davekaylor458]

I'm old now and not traveling for work like I did for years getting back into working on cars, but not a professional. I still have most of my original Craftsman tools bought 45 years ago, but needed a lot of new ones after a personal issue, and had been searching for a brand to go with. I tried a number of them, but have not been satisfied. I found Icon and was impressed, so I am beginning to just get those and setting aside the "test" tools for trunk tools. Looking forward to your reviews.