How the Soviets Stole a Missile - The Sidewinder Heist

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@MilitaryAviationHistory
@MilitaryAviationHistory 5 ай бұрын
Can I just say a big thank you to the German Luftwaffe and Taktisches Luftwaffengeschwader 74 for being such fantastic hosts and allowing me to film this at Neuburg AB where this happened. That was really awesome and not something that I expected, really enjoyed my time with the Bavarian Tigers!
@mrcat5508
@mrcat5508 5 ай бұрын
No, you can not just say that.
@mrcat5508
@mrcat5508 5 ай бұрын
Nice video though! I really enjoyed it.
@hoilst265
@hoilst265 5 ай бұрын
Waitasec...there was rat poison on the ground and the guy was picking parsley? Bit of spousal murder going on there?
@CRIMSON13th
@CRIMSON13th 5 ай бұрын
Meanwhile us stole a whole devils chariot grand theft chopper
@ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg
@ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg 5 ай бұрын
For future reference, please add what the Soviets produced as a result. They previously had the clunky Alkali AAM. What was the Sidewinderski?
@sam1812seal
@sam1812seal 5 ай бұрын
They couldn’t charge them with theft of state secrets because it wasn’t officially named as a state secret. That is so incredibly German…
@20chocsaday
@20chocsaday 5 ай бұрын
Who left it there, where it could be stolen so easily
@lightcycler4806
@lightcycler4806 5 ай бұрын
As much so as displaying the obligatory road flag to warn people from hurting themselves on the stolen missile!
@20chocsaday
@20chocsaday 5 ай бұрын
@@lightcycler4806 With a hammer and sickle on the flag.
@scrooge1374
@scrooge1374 5 ай бұрын
that's also called having a good lawyer 😂
@sunnyjim1355
@sunnyjim1355 5 ай бұрын
But it's also interesting how sometimes the law is followed to the letter of the law, and sometimes it isn't, isn't it? 🤔One might think that they were actually allowed to get away with it, so as not to let NATO get a clear, decisive advantage, so that the US MIC could demand more money (which ultimately comes from US tax payers). Weird, huh? 🤷‍♂
@angrybirder9983
@angrybirder9983 5 ай бұрын
At first, I thought this was about the AIM-9B that got lodged in a Chinese MiG-17 and wanted to comment "They didn't steal it, the Chinese got a high speed delivery for free and were very lucky it didn't blow up."
@JonBrase
@JonBrase 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was thinking "It wasn't a heist! We gave it to them!"
@restitvtororbis5330
@restitvtororbis5330 5 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing 😂
@edwinchandeck7231
@edwinchandeck7231 5 ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 5 ай бұрын
That's the reason the Atoll existed. I think this is to see for upgrades
@nvelsen1975
@nvelsen1975 5 ай бұрын
Gives whole new meaning to the military expression "Send it" 😉
@legoeasycompany
@legoeasycompany 5 ай бұрын
I don't know which one is more daring, breaking into a military base to steal a missile... or attempting to drive long distance with said missile hanging out of your VW Beetle only wrapped up in a carpet.
@MilitaryAviationHistory
@MilitaryAviationHistory 5 ай бұрын
It is one (or rather two) of those events where some how random pieces fall into place in perfect order to make what seems like an impossible task a reality. Also the missile in the carpet with the warning label, as silly as it sounds, why should they be stopped. They followed the law (on that matter). No wonder someone made a comedic movie about it afterwards.
@legoeasycompany
@legoeasycompany 5 ай бұрын
@@MilitaryAviationHistory Seems like it went from Mission Impossible to Monty Python really quick once you revealed their get-away vehicle. And yeah the hiding it in plain sight seems to have been effective or you know the lack of anything big being noticed missing for a bit too.
@nothingbutchappy
@nothingbutchappy 5 ай бұрын
@@MilitaryAviationHistory yeah, you put a flag on it... Police don't have counter intelligence training. It's just a carpet with a flag.
@A407RAC
@A407RAC 5 ай бұрын
Also, what were the consequences of the soviet union getting access to this? Did anything need to be changed for the western nations?
@mytube001
@mytube001 5 ай бұрын
@@A407RAC Probably not for the missile. The B model was quite limited, and there were already far more capable variants in production and even more advanced ones in development. But the INS unit was likely a much greater prize.
@RodrigoFernandez-td9uk
@RodrigoFernandez-td9uk 5 ай бұрын
I suppose the sentence would have been greater if they had not taken the precaution of putting a red ribbon on the end that protruded from the car.
@bluedragontoybash2463
@bluedragontoybash2463 5 ай бұрын
not to mention driving a Volkswagen with a broken rear window !! Ja !
@christopherg2347
@christopherg2347 5 ай бұрын
​@@bluedragontoybash2463I think those could be removed. Not like they are the first guys transporting an over length load in a VW.
@WilliamMurphy-uv9pm
@WilliamMurphy-uv9pm 5 ай бұрын
@@bluedragontoybash2463 Was driving a vehicle with a broken rear window a crime in Germany at the time?
@kewintaylor7056
@kewintaylor7056 5 ай бұрын
And they never ride faster than legal!😂
@bardsamok9221
@bardsamok9221 5 ай бұрын
​​​​​​​​​​@@WilliamMurphy-uv9pmin many countries if you're driving around with sharp shards of glass in the window you're breaking a safety law. That's common sense. If they were slightly intelligent they'd remove the whole window or remains of glass for obvious reasons (eg: getting pulled over) which is not a complex procedure, removing shards takes minutes with very common tools. Also: I think he was joking re: Volkswagen.
@karlstreed3698
@karlstreed3698 5 ай бұрын
Many years ago, I had a contractor that was running some tests for the USAF and needed an AIM-9 seeker for those tests so we ordered one from the depot. When it arrived, it was attached to a complete war shot missile! The depot wasn't used to sending less than a full system so they thought we had made a mistake. The contractor's insurance would not cover them for explosives and the truck had already left before the error was found so it couldn't be returned. We were facing having a 12-foot box containing a classified missile sitting on the side of a road in Texas while we were in Dayton Ohio. We made several phone calls before we were able to get the EOD team at Carswell AFB to go out and get the missile, less the seeker, and bring it back to an ammo bunker at Carswell. The next time we did this we actually had a guy fly to the Atlanta airport with the seeker in his carry-on case where he met the contractor who signed for it and took it his facility. You have no idea how much classified material passes through airports every day in someone's briefcase.
@igoralecu6673
@igoralecu6673 5 ай бұрын
wardogs type situation
@Radbot776
@Radbot776 5 ай бұрын
Wait so your saying the military sends classified parts through civilian airports and airplanes?
@campandcook3118
@campandcook3118 5 ай бұрын
​@@Radbot776 yes, and through other civilian logistics contractors. F.e. wooden crates with a paper "seal" labeled as "machine parts"
@Radbot776
@Radbot776 5 ай бұрын
@@campandcook3118 super genius
@noahhastings6145
@noahhastings6145 5 ай бұрын
@@Radbot776 Hidden in plane sight
@yellowboeing6030
@yellowboeing6030 5 ай бұрын
Plucking parsley…..rat poison in the ground…the plot thickens
@xeonkitcat1119
@xeonkitcat1119 5 ай бұрын
Somebody had to sleep on the couch one too many times.
@atrumluminarium
@atrumluminarium 5 ай бұрын
😂
@diaroses3146
@diaroses3146 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like some plot in Cozy Murder Mystery in sleepy English village
@qdaniele97
@qdaniele97 5 ай бұрын
I doubt they put rat poison even in the grass on the outskirts of the base 😅 Besides, rat poison is almost always never lethal for human because they mix substances that cause vomiting along with the actual poison as a safety measure. Rats and mices lack a vomiting reflex and so absorb the full dose while humans throw it out before it can do any significant damage.
@_Clem_H_Fandango_
@_Clem_H_Fandango_ 5 ай бұрын
@@qdaniele97 they were worried about the dogs getting the poison, not the soldiers
@miketeeveedub5779
@miketeeveedub5779 5 ай бұрын
I will never look at a roll of carpet hanging out the window of a small car the same way ever again. Congrats on becoming part of my conspiracy lexicon.
@robertbalazslorincz8218
@robertbalazslorincz8218 5 ай бұрын
"You wouldn't download a car..." *downloads an AIM-9B instead*
@lycossurfer8851
@lycossurfer8851 5 ай бұрын
Hide a Patriot missile in a rolled up yoga mat
@doodskie999
@doodskie999 5 ай бұрын
Fun fact, the Soviets had already reverse engineered this missile since 1960 as one got stuck in a PLAAF MiG-17 and didn't detonate in 1958, the Soviets persuaded the Chinese to give them the missile for further analysis. They copied it too well, even the serial number and some parts are interchangeable with the real AIM9
@Phantom-rb8yv
@Phantom-rb8yv 5 ай бұрын
Interesting. Is there a source where you can read this and find out more about it?
@ummmhelp
@ummmhelp 5 ай бұрын
@@Phantom-rb8yv I heard some some guy on a forum say the book "sidewinder" talks about it maybe he meant "Sidewinder: Creative Missile Development at China Lake"?
@therealspeedwagon1451
@therealspeedwagon1451 5 ай бұрын
The Soviets and Chinese were quite good at copying other’s homework. When the Soviets got their hands on American B-29s, they copied it down to the most minute detail and made the Tu-4. Everything about it was copied: from its bomb payload to its window layout and flight performance. Even some of the rivets missing on the original and a camera used for reconnaissance and espionage were ported over on the copy. The main things that couldn’t be copied were the thickness of the metal skin, which was in imperial units rather than metric, and the guns.
@doodskie999
@doodskie999 5 ай бұрын
@@Phantom-rb8yv just google how the soviets got the aim 9 from the Chinese, or search k 13 missile and read its history
@frankrenda2519
@frankrenda2519 5 ай бұрын
@@therealspeedwagon1451 every country copies including the usa
@tommolldev
@tommolldev 5 ай бұрын
The missile knows where it is because it’s in the back of a clapped out VW
@Neukend
@Neukend 5 ай бұрын
It knows this because it knows it isn't on a military airbase
@065Tim
@065Tim 5 ай бұрын
"Hey, is that a civilian anrufsammeltaxi?"
@baraka629
@baraka629 5 ай бұрын
the missile being in a place it wasn't but it now is (Ivan's lab)
@Winged_Gunsknecht
@Winged_Gunsknecht 5 ай бұрын
The way Chris wrote his disclaimer makes me suspect he got his very own JDAM now.
@eddgar-ce3md
@eddgar-ce3md 5 ай бұрын
"for research".
@irongron
@irongron 5 ай бұрын
What I find bemusing is that they brought the wrong kind of VW to do the job, they needed a Combie Van not a Beetle!
@cocodog85
@cocodog85 5 ай бұрын
they could have at least used a roof rack. but they did bring the carpet so there was some forethought.
@irongron
@irongron 5 ай бұрын
@@cocodog85 Yea, at first I thought they had it by chance in the beetle when Chris mentioned it, then I realised that they did bring it to hide the missile in the beetle in case they got pulled up - "hey we're just carrying some carpet home officer"!!!
@EpicThe112
@EpicThe112 5 ай бұрын
If you are referring to a Combi Van you mean the VW Type 2 known in Cars as Filmore. There is another option buy the loaf van from the GDR and then steal the AIM-9B
@irongron
@irongron 5 ай бұрын
@@EpicThe112 Oh I have never head of them, I thought all the DDR had was Trabants! 🚓🛵
@EpicThe112
@EpicThe112 5 ай бұрын
@irongron if you want to know who made them in the German Democratic Republic it's this VEB Barkas.
@Felix-no7nx
@Felix-no7nx 5 ай бұрын
The pilot who stole the missile wrote a book about it. I’m searching for it for almost a year 😂 Thank you for the video!
@Felix-no7nx
@Felix-no7nx 4 ай бұрын
@@ilmari9120 so what? SO WHAT? He wrote a fucking book about it that it’s nobody to be found?
@Haneson
@Haneson 5 ай бұрын
This is so funny - on one side you have James Bond stories with perfectly arranged missions, and on the other side you have dudes, fitting Sidewinder into VW Beetle and driving with it 500 km while it sticks out of the window😀
@brennus57
@brennus57 5 ай бұрын
Great job, Chris. The music and animated graphics are truly top-notch.
@josephdedrick9337
@josephdedrick9337 5 ай бұрын
So in short, 3 guys cut a hole in the fence, grabbed the missle threw it in the car, and them drove it a long distance and somehow remained undetected throughout the entire process until 2 days later the hole was discovered and they were tracked down a year later to face trial.
@ERECTED_MONUMENT
@ERECTED_MONUMENT 5 ай бұрын
Worse, they only found them cause one of the guys got drunk and boasted about the theft in a bar.
@WilliamMurphy-uv9pm
@WilliamMurphy-uv9pm 5 ай бұрын
Is this in Florida, or Germany?
@SchwertKruemel
@SchwertKruemel 5 ай бұрын
A schlosser isnt really a locksmith. Its rather a far broader metal working profession
@robrob9050
@robrob9050 5 ай бұрын
A welder?
@SchwertKruemel
@SchwertKruemel 5 ай бұрын
@@robrob9050 could be, but it’s really not that specific. Unlike a smith a Schlosser is processing an intermediate product. Could be welding, could be milling or a bunch of other processes.
@robrob9050
@robrob9050 5 ай бұрын
@@SchwertKruemel Thanks for clarification
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 5 ай бұрын
At least the Soviets gave Lufthansa a 5 star review!
@ScoutSniper3124
@ScoutSniper3124 5 ай бұрын
Aboard the USS Ranger CV-61 many years ago the Marines would be posted to guard the ordnance areas aboard ship. One day I caught one NOT doing his job and being distracted by people walking by. To teach him a VALUABLE lesson I swiped the sign on the stanchion right in front of him that stated "Warning, no unauthorized personal beyond this line, DEADLY FORCE is authorized". I just took the sign and kept walking. Smiling at the thought of his Gunny Sergeant tearing him a new one for losing the sign while standing right there. I bet he NEVER stood guard in a sloppy distracted manner again. 🙂
@deadarea97
@deadarea97 5 ай бұрын
Now that you've been to the museum at Neuburg AB. Can we hope of a dedicated Inside The Cockpit of the F-4F Phantom (38+10) that they have there. I really loved the episode of the FGR.2 and I am still hoping for an episode of the F-4F or perhaps an EE Lightning. That would be awesome. Thanks for your videos!!!
@MilitaryAviationHistory
@MilitaryAviationHistory 5 ай бұрын
Yup, was great to film that Phantom
@barrymccockiner6641
@barrymccockiner6641 5 ай бұрын
Wasnt there a Sidewinder that hit a Mig, but didn't explode? Then removed on landing?
@mytube001
@mytube001 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, when I saw the title, that's what I thought this would be about.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 5 ай бұрын
Is that the official excuse?
@TheHarvHR
@TheHarvHR 5 ай бұрын
​@@TheArklyte he literally says this wasn't the first Sidewinder the Soviets got, but the first fully functioning one
@angrybirder9983
@angrybirder9983 5 ай бұрын
That was a different incident.
@rays5073
@rays5073 5 ай бұрын
That one was Taiwanese fired and lodged into a Chinese MiG, who then passed it on to Moscow
@Luis-be9mi
@Luis-be9mi 5 ай бұрын
So the Soviets stole a missile, while the U.S. received a MIG-25 free of charge from a defector.
@ГеоргийМурзич
@ГеоргийМурзич 5 ай бұрын
Well, if you go that way, USSR received a flyable F-5E as well as Aim-7
@NineSeptims
@NineSeptims 5 ай бұрын
@@ГеоргийМурзич America also got VTOL and a research paper the soviets foolishly posted publicly that lead to all modern stealth jets we have now. Back then really was wild.
@femboyshitposter676
@femboyshitposter676 5 ай бұрын
@@NineSeptims VTOL isn't really related to stealth fighters now is it yes its a feture but is not neccesary because a stealth fighter can just as easily take off without VTOL and Stealth Tech was being researched either way by this time.
@hollister2320
@hollister2320 5 ай бұрын
@@NineSeptims didn’t that narrative get disproved? Russians were so embarrassed about always trying to steal American tech, that they made up that story, to save dignity👀at least they have some pride left tho, unlike the sloppy Chines. Yikes💀
@hackmind
@hackmind 4 ай бұрын
And the chinese receive an EP-3 spy plane 😅
@cocodog85
@cocodog85 5 ай бұрын
a new meaning for the term ... a magic carpet ride.
@nicku1
@nicku1 4 ай бұрын
In the late 1970s, I read in the aviation press about a Strela missile that, during one of the wars in the Middle East, got stuck in the nozzle of an Israeli jet without exploding. The pilot, who apparently had the balls of bronze, managed to land with this gift and became a hero, and the Americans salivated when receiving the rocket. The funniest part of this story: I read this article during my reserve officer training in the Polish army ("communist" times) after college, sitting under a display case in which there was a Strela disassembled into parts, with the inscription "Top Secret".
@dareka9425
@dareka9425 5 ай бұрын
Real life: Get in, get out and drive away. Hollywood: flashy Ocean 11 reboot but with Sidewinders. Netflix: Ocean 11 but German with a lot of sombre and twisting backstories. And Sidewinders.
@constantinethecataphract5949
@constantinethecataphract5949 5 ай бұрын
The Netflix wouldn't be German tho aside for citizenship.
@unclenogbad1509
@unclenogbad1509 5 ай бұрын
I'm no big fan of the Soviets, but they did get up to a lot of fun stuff right under Nato's noses, didn't they?
@jordi6795
@jordi6795 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely unbelievable..., it raises so many questions..., how come was the base so poorly guarded? Having been able to sneak into a military base, how did they were even catched one year later and trialed? And the outcome of the trial..., ridiculous...
@ClaraBells-u8z
@ClaraBells-u8z 4 ай бұрын
Jordi
@npatrcevic
@npatrcevic 5 ай бұрын
Great turnaround from the usual topics, großes Lob
@TheLazlo101
@TheLazlo101 5 ай бұрын
Beautifully made video! I recall having heard about that heist but it is nice to see the real objects that stood at the center of it. Also, just discovered your channel. Exactly my thing! Thank you so much!
@homebase5934
@homebase5934 5 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the way you presented this video Chris. Was great to see the old INS system too, im sure it was very good piece of technology for it's time.
@100Kakdela
@100Kakdela 5 ай бұрын
Cool to see your channel taking it to the next level! Awesome video.
@mason2511
@mason2511 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic video and great medium format too!
@argusflugmotor7895
@argusflugmotor7895 5 ай бұрын
I’m liking this format Chris!
@MilitaryAviationHistory
@MilitaryAviationHistory 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
5 ай бұрын
Amazing opportunity to film this at the Place where it happened. Nice Video
@livinglifeform7974
@livinglifeform7974 5 ай бұрын
I love how over-edited this is.
@MilitaryAviationHistory
@MilitaryAviationHistory 5 ай бұрын
\o/
@brandenburg2388
@brandenburg2388 4 ай бұрын
The missile in question was accidentally discarded in the rubbish bin by a cleaner. And some guys at the garbage collection center discovered it and sold it on the black market before the Soviets purchased it.
@ClaraBells-u8z
@ClaraBells-u8z 4 ай бұрын
Hi bug
@JPR3D
@JPR3D 5 ай бұрын
Yo, those titles cards & fade was slick. Very nice. Your production has come a long way.
@MilitaryAviationHistory
@MilitaryAviationHistory 5 ай бұрын
Thanks☺️
@omaranis
@omaranis 4 ай бұрын
Human ingenuity knows no bounds when backed by determination.
@andrewpinner3181
@andrewpinner3181 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Chris - wow ! Was not all aware of this !
@tino897
@tino897 5 ай бұрын
I really like this style of video. If possible make more of them.
@magdovus
@magdovus 5 ай бұрын
Was this after the one they acquired via the Chinese when it failed to explode and got wedged in the target plane?
@johnthefishermanjohnhoyle5763
@johnthefishermanjohnhoyle5763 5 ай бұрын
love cold war history. madness.
@ClaraBells-u8z
@ClaraBells-u8z 4 ай бұрын
John Fisherman
@SerbanOprescu
@SerbanOprescu 5 ай бұрын
And if I remember correctly, the parts sent by air mail did not arrive at their Soviet Union destination right away. Due to a postal error, they arrived somewhere in Germany first. When the German mail service discovered the error, they promptly corrected the error and re-sent it to the USSR, as per their duty! Ut arrived in Moscow a few days later, and the rest is history :)
@Francis-ce1qb
@Francis-ce1qb 4 ай бұрын
It’s not stolen when you fired it at the enemy but it didn’t explode and the enemy just picks it up and brought it back home
@TUD22141
@TUD22141 5 ай бұрын
Damn the new gta online dlc is looking 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@devinhallsworth5531
@devinhallsworth5531 5 ай бұрын
How the soviets stole a missle: They walked up to the hangar and just took it.
@JustMinna
@JustMinna 5 ай бұрын
is that a picture of the aim-9b/r3s from the war thunder wiki in the thumbnail?
@zx3215
@zx3215 4 ай бұрын
The guard (G): -- Hey! Who are you?! The thief (T): -- A moth! G: -- And where are you taking this carpet?! T: -- That's my lunch! I will eat it at home!
@geordiedog1749
@geordiedog1749 5 ай бұрын
Cool video. Fortune favours the brazen in this case!
@spearshaker7974
@spearshaker7974 5 ай бұрын
I love history so much I wish there was some kind of class or container of information on it.
@lionheartx-ray4135
@lionheartx-ray4135 5 ай бұрын
More of this I really like this video.
@BasedHadrian
@BasedHadrian 5 ай бұрын
Love this channel
@karoltakisobie6638
@karoltakisobie6638 5 ай бұрын
That heist sounded like something Olsen gang did but in Danmark . Is anyone aware of a video about first Soviet AT missiles or missiles that armed Mig -17pf, Mig-19 pm? I found plenty of pictures but nothing about how they came about.
@benjaminspiewak5220
@benjaminspiewak5220 5 ай бұрын
Would you ever do a video on the AD/A-1 Skyraider?
@tigertiger1699
@tigertiger1699 5 ай бұрын
Priceless
@tomlobos2871
@tomlobos2871 5 ай бұрын
i read about that. what a story. to note, western military missions in the gdr were not less of an adventure.
@mackfisher4487
@mackfisher4487 5 ай бұрын
What was the line from the film "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb" Or was it "Ice Station Zebra" that talked about the Russian German scientists and the American German scientists. We could extrapolate that to your German spies and our German spies.
@entropyachieved750
@entropyachieved750 5 ай бұрын
Cool story. More content like this please...
@markf37talon
@markf37talon 4 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to know how they got caught
@ClaraBells-u8z
@ClaraBells-u8z 4 ай бұрын
Mark stark
@mushubiak
@mushubiak Ай бұрын
Knoppe, the Starfighter-Pilot and insider to the base was boasting about the heist while being drunk in bar a year later. Somebody reported him to the police and the trio was arrested shortly after.
@markf37talon
@markf37talon Ай бұрын
@@mushubiak Lol drunk characters make every story better that should have been included! Thanks for the reply!
@markf37talon
@markf37talon Ай бұрын
@@ClaraBells-u8z Random...
@rubylaser8601
@rubylaser8601 5 ай бұрын
West Germany security control was really bad.
@ClaraBells-u8z
@ClaraBells-u8z 4 ай бұрын
Ruby
@aquibmohd
@aquibmohd 4 ай бұрын
I remember this , its like an angry but loving wife gives you tea when you ask her .
@ronaldkonkoma4356
@ronaldkonkoma4356 5 ай бұрын
I only read the headline. Did they smuggle it out after it failed to detonate in their fuselage?
@bluedragontoybash2463
@bluedragontoybash2463 5 ай бұрын
the entire video is funnier than the headline
@doxun7823
@doxun7823 5 ай бұрын
Incredible that the thieves got such short prison sentences for such an extraordinary act of treason. One can only imagine the grisly end that would befall someone caught in the Soviet Union for a similar act.
@colbunkmust
@colbunkmust 5 ай бұрын
If they did it in the US you'd get 20-life at the federal supermax. That's what happened to the guy that sold cruise missile tech to the Chinese. 32 yr sentence means he'll get out in his 80s if he's lucky.
@DaisiesTC
@DaisiesTC 5 ай бұрын
@@colbunkmust To be fair cruise missile tech is a bit more serious, especially when the Russians had already developed a 1:1 copy of the Aim 9B at the time.
@Ecovictorian
@Ecovictorian 5 ай бұрын
4:00 is that correct? Accordingly, there should be a list of what is classified as a state secret... This contradicts the logic of state secrets and many things in the legal system do not work like that The regular penalties for disclosing a state secret according to the Criminal Code are not very high. I would rather assume that the problem was not that it was not a state secret, but that other "Tatbestände" were not applicable or that the punishment was generally very low
@NothingIsKnown00
@NothingIsKnown00 5 ай бұрын
I love the story about when the American got their hands on a MiG-25. They thought it was some Soviet super weapon but it was just an outdated interceptor from when nuclear weapons required bomber aircraft.
@marioshadjikyriacou3381
@marioshadjikyriacou3381 5 ай бұрын
Whatever the Americans were thinking is one thing, whatever that turned out to be is another!! Mig25 is made to intercept SR71, and nuclear bombing as a second task! Thus its electronics! They were not made with miscochips, they were made of "lambs" which are not affected by nuclear radiation!
@kensai7
@kensai7 5 ай бұрын
Why is the Taktisches Luftwaffengeschwader 74 not named after Mölders anymore?
@kenon6968
@kenon6968 5 ай бұрын
Kind of crazy that they timed it to coincide with the rat poison on the ground and that they had already broken into the base once before
@samgeorge4798
@samgeorge4798 5 ай бұрын
Why is the one sidewinder shorter than the other?
@MuhammadAli-255
@MuhammadAli-255 5 ай бұрын
They are both the same missile but the “shorter” one is placed a little further back than the “bigger” one.
@samgeorge4798
@samgeorge4798 5 ай бұрын
​@@MuhammadAli-255 The fins are in the same place and when comparing the two the "longer" one has a longer distance from the lens too the first seam line. As well as having a different lense colour. I think it's a aim-9b fgw.2
@nvelsen1975
@nvelsen1975 5 ай бұрын
You shouldn't wash them any hotter than 30 degrees, otherwise they shrink, as you've seen.
@RextheDragon881
@RextheDragon881 5 ай бұрын
Thumbnail of the day award Always loved the style of soviet propaganda Also great vid! Thanks
@mabbrey
@mabbrey 5 ай бұрын
great vid
@edwinhidalgo1242
@edwinhidalgo1242 4 ай бұрын
The USSR did not stole it. Germans stole the item and sold it to the Soviets
@ReSSwend
@ReSSwend 3 ай бұрын
@TheIvanNewb
@TheIvanNewb 5 ай бұрын
I just wish the Danish/Swedish mail service was this good today. What happens with a lack of funding, but at least there won't be any AIM-120s mailed to Moscow this way!
@richardque1036
@richardque1036 4 ай бұрын
Security at the air base was so bad,according to a joke,one can even smuggle the phantom jet out of the air base.
@dougerrohmer
@dougerrohmer 5 ай бұрын
How did they catch the guys? Probably just sat back and looked out for the first guy to pull a Ferrari into the staff parking, like Richard Pryor in Superman III.
@HappyDuude
@HappyDuude 5 ай бұрын
Next on its always Sunny - The Gang Steals a Missle
@kineticdeath
@kineticdeath 5 ай бұрын
i knew that the soviets got an unexploded sidewinder from the back of a mig, but i never knew that someone broke into a base and stole one in the dead of night. Thats literally a bond movie opening scene in real life
@marovlasic3167
@marovlasic3167 5 ай бұрын
Legends!!!!!
@whytebearconcepts
@whytebearconcepts 5 ай бұрын
We gave them one in September1958 during the Taiwan Crisis, stuck in the side of a PLAAF Mig-17F. They didn't need to steal another one.
@truongchau56
@truongchau56 5 ай бұрын
IIRC, the stolen one is the Aim-9D. The Soviets found out that their R-3S (which is the lodge Aim 9B) was becoming obsolete.
@whytebearconcepts
@whytebearconcepts 5 ай бұрын
@@truongchau56 Thank you for that follow up, I had not heard that addition before.
@StrikeBuster-b2b
@StrikeBuster-b2b 4 ай бұрын
Russia stole an American missile, America stole a Russian submarine off the ocean floor. Sounds like a fair trade
@spartacusreview
@spartacusreview 4 ай бұрын
True but the Soviets stole the Atom Bomb blueprints in 1945
@300guy
@300guy 5 ай бұрын
So INS Inertial Navigation System?
@MilitaryAviationHistory
@MilitaryAviationHistory 5 ай бұрын
Yes
@jacksparrowBharat007
@jacksparrowBharat007 5 ай бұрын
Some time make a video on how US stole Mig fighter,stole Russian helicopter.
@ClaraBells-u8z
@ClaraBells-u8z 4 ай бұрын
Jack
@davidbrennan660
@davidbrennan660 5 ай бұрын
Lots of odd things went east in a Diplomatic bag ….and still does, as things move west.
@pietpanzerpanzer5335
@pietpanzerpanzer5335 5 ай бұрын
Ofcourse you have to berücksichtigen the straßenverkehrsordnung and put the red flag on an object extending more than 1 meter out
@Jzeg13
@Jzeg13 4 ай бұрын
Well we salvaged “part” of one of their nuclear submarines that they weren’t even able to find sooo…scoreboard? Missile vs Sub, you tell me
@MakateRapulana
@MakateRapulana 4 ай бұрын
They should make a movie ..
@mab2187
@mab2187 5 ай бұрын
Wait, it wasn't an AIM-9B? it was either a J or D I believe.
@mikkojk83
@mikkojk83 5 ай бұрын
Luftwaffe only had -9B's until 1969 when the -9B FGW-2's arrived. After that they jumped straight into -9L's.
@Screwball70
@Screwball70 5 ай бұрын
Back in them days the sidewinder seeker wasnt that cleaver, so atleast the soviets didnt get away with a later version lol
@robertalaverdov8147
@robertalaverdov8147 5 ай бұрын
Not stolen, finessed.
@grimmerjxcts2206
@grimmerjxcts2206 5 ай бұрын
Least insane cold war moment:
@glmm2001
@glmm2001 5 ай бұрын
Could it have been a 9F? More advanced (cooled) seeker than the original Bravo
@marioshadjikyriacou3381
@marioshadjikyriacou3381 5 ай бұрын
The 9F version, is most probably the outcome of this action! Everything must/should change to higher/another level!
@shengyi1701
@shengyi1701 5 ай бұрын
We had Mini Coopers for Italian Job and for this German Job, we have VW Beetle! Herbie wont be pleased!
@Slava_Yarmolenko
@Slava_Yarmolenko 5 ай бұрын
Didn't soviets get 9B variant when one of them was a dud and got stuck in chinese mig during of the the skirmishes over Taiwan straight?
@nathanielwowchuk6880
@nathanielwowchuk6880 5 ай бұрын
So, they pretty much got off scot free because it was so new it wasn't classified? Wow
@KilianP-my3oe
@KilianP-my3oe 5 ай бұрын
my dad worked for molders
@scottessery100
@scottessery100 5 ай бұрын
If Hollywood made this into a film it’d be a comedy
@crochou8173
@crochou8173 5 ай бұрын
but why did the soviets like the brand new aim9b they got from the heist when theres already got one from taiwan
@theDaNi0
@theDaNi0 5 ай бұрын
This happened in October of 1967, for anyone else wondering.
@Based_Lord_Humongous
@Based_Lord_Humongous 5 ай бұрын
But what is an INS?
@MilitaryAviationHistory
@MilitaryAviationHistory 5 ай бұрын
Inertial Navigation System
@guillepankeke2844
@guillepankeke2844 5 ай бұрын
"Their motivation werent all clear" Maybe it was ideological motivation?
@СерыйЖук-л1н
@СерыйЖук-л1н 5 ай бұрын
in fact, the Soviets also stole the first artificial satellite and the first space rocket from the United States. This is a well-known fact, but for some reason no one talks about it.
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