How the Super League war began | The Matty Johns Podcast

In the latest episode of the Matty Johns Podcast, Matty opens up to look back on a wild time, when things got to the point desperate agents were pestering players from McDonalds stores across the road to sign up for the new Super League.
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[@yehbuddy1005]

There needs to be a full documentary done on the Super league war.

[@lukeharkin7]

100%

[@RugbyLeagueHistory]

There is one on KZbin but it is hard to find. I remember watching it awhile ago.

[@shanewilson398]

Love a book about it.. something impartial, which shouldn’t be hard given there’s been a lot of water under the bridge.

[@laylanddawson2294]

It would be good if a neutral party produced it, otherwise it’d be biased

[@kaeso101]

@@RugbyLeagueHistory I think it's called a century of rugby league

[@kaeso101]

I find it great that they are talking about the super league war. It is a rarely talked about but highly influential phase in rugby league history... hopefully they make a documentary or docu-series on it.

[@brodie4835]

It ruined the game.

[@PkersDemise]

paramount plus

[@cl9925]

Expecting an unbiased and honest view from 3 blokes on the News Corp payroll on a News Corp owned channel

[@BusterYT]

Thanks for being Negative bloke mate. People like you are the reason coronavirus is still around

[@cl9925]

@@BusterYT wow didn't know bad vibes was the reason people still have corona

[@BusterYT]

I bet it hurts when you smile doesnt it

[@cl9925]

@@BusterYT ok

[@ripme6616]

Great comment c l

[@BusterYT]

I love the matty johns podcast, both with block and kenty and the family one. I found this as one of the most interesting ones to listen since no one knew alot about what got told in these stories

[@lukeharkin7]

This podcast was 1 of the best things I've listened too honestly was that good

[@shanewilson398]

I used to work in a high school in Townsville until 92. It was a really big RL school that had been really successful in the commonwealth bank cup. I remember talking to someone who still worked at the school who told me about a few of the ex students who were playing reserve and SG ball for the cowboys. Not one went on to play first grade but at the time they had been paid 160 grand to sign on to super league and play for the duration of their contract. Remember feeling for those greats who had just retired or were close to retiring..,, Stirling, Kenny, Lewis, miles, how much would they have got? I can also remember one footy show... brad Fittler had become the face if the NRL during the war. He turned up on the Sunday still hung over from the night before, looking still half cut, barely articulate. I thought at the time the ARL we’re screwed if he was their poster boy. In the end he turned out to be worthy. A book would be great about this saga.

[@jimjones2987]

Great chat, logged onto kayo to watch the whole podcast

[@MI-lm1kz]

is there a part 2 coming ? This is great stuff

[@DC.....]

​@JG-bw6lu Shut up

[@warriorsfan1602]

This is awesome...it was a crazy time

[@thesjhughes]

The Rugby League Digest podcast a good series on the super league very in depth Series

[@dereksaumolia9939]

Super league war did nothing to promote the game. The war diminished fans appreciation especially after the glorious and epic ARL 1990's finals & Origin battles.

[@powerbite92]

NRL is Australias greatest sporting product, even more than Rules, but its lost its power and its lustre over the years: that all goes back to the Super League War - it was a cancer on the game and its knock on effects are still being felt.

[@stevvvvveperry]

If you look back at the early 90s, rugby league was beginning its zenith. The product was the best it ever was, and yeah Super League killed it.

[@BrisbaneBroncosfan67]

@@stevvvvveperryhow did it kill it? I’m genuinely curious because I don’t really understand it.

[@stevvvvveperry]

@@BrisbaneBroncosfan67 Because the game was about to enter a golden age, and at the time was going Toe too toe with the AFL. Super League stunted the game for 20 years, and it's only been since Vlandys took over, that the game is back on track.

[@RugbyLeagueHistory]

@@BrisbaneBroncosfan67 For a lot of people it killed their interest in the game, some eventually came back but for others they went off to follow AFL or Football. Especially for the fans that lost their club, imagine supporting Norths, Wests or Balmain for decades and then all of a sudden they are gone forever, for some people it was too painful to support another team, I know a few North Sydney fans myself who continue to watch the NSW Cup team but refuse to watch any NRL games.

[@milochanel9491]

Do people seriously not know how this happened? Goodness gracious the fanbase of this sport is young. Good to see. Holds it in good stead.

[@youforgotyourcrap]

You sure do know your stuff Matty🤙

[@trooking1]

6:59, “Joey’s on $15,000, I’m on $20,000.” Wow, what a difference compared to today’s million dollar salaries.

[@Jablaibarbar]

The audio from fatty had me in stitches this morning.

[@DD-xw6uw]

You mean Fatso Vaughn ? 😂

[@lanksey1606]

can someone give the TLDR version? im not a massive footy fan but this sounds really interesting

[@DabDabGoose]

This is good info for those NSW people who seem to blame Broncos for the Super league, we were literally not the first club to sign up, but can you blame us with how NSWRL head honchos were treating us, they tried to shut the club up over how we were run even though we applied in our franchise for 1988 with the exact model we used at that point, we were a scape goat club for NSW and is another reason for our State of Origin chip on our shoulders. from our perspective it was either, some high earning league or a league that hated our guts, the fact we even heistated in the first place shows we atleast tried for a resolution.

[@davidnelson702]

People compare this shameful time as similar to WSC. Not so. WSC was about players getting paid their dues and the establishment being brough to bear. Superleague was purely about Murdoch and his cronies making money for themselves aned their shareholders. Big contracts for the players was only about bragging rights for who had the better players. Thankfully common sense prevaied in the end.

[@michelledavidson8190]

Very interesting discussion from three of the best on fox league.

[@dhdydbemjxgcn2141]

Blocka is easily the worst on fox

[@WTC-1990]

blocka is terrible

[@zamb323]

PK & Matty are Muppets PK especially

[@dutchvanderlinde2488]

blocka is a nice guy but he is dumb and lacks attention span and wants to change the subject to much

[@dhdydbemjxgcn2141]

native by nature matty is the main reason why fox is watchable mate

[@adthomp]

the year we had the reverse grade origin teams for QLD to win it in 95 with Brett Dallas lol

[@soundzrinmygarden3833]

The NRL is fucked, we need another super league. Sinbinned for slapping someone.....what a joke

[@BrisbaneBroncosfan67]

That wouldn’t solve it. What would is getting better refs.

[@shauntaylor9503]

Greed, greed and greed it was that simple.

[@petertancred3507]

World Series Cricket Murdoch style? I understand that premise but to divide the community and get rid of a communities focus and estrange them may be a price to high to pay...Players do need to be compensated for lost opportunities for a playing career which can be plagued with serious health conditions later in their life, but that was the whole reason the League was created in the first place? I wonder if a better scenario should or could of been tabled than to have the situation now where even more districts will be stripped of their identities they have been loyal to....the talk has already been discussed that even more Sydney Clubs face the axe soon...you do the maths.

[@user-sg5jf9cp4q]

You couldn’t force clubs to join together . You couldn’t take clubs from the fans. Create a bad guy and call him super league. What you got was clubs joining together. A perfect well orchestrated plan that fooled everybody to this day. 🙏

[@Alekosdw]

It’s not a bad thing It’s a good thing

[@npd6225]

Was there an ARL state of origin that year? I remember the super league one

[@snapertaper947]

Yeah that’s the year that started cattle dog call and when Andrew Johns got punched in the face

[@npd6225]

Snaper Taper oh that’s right!! Jamie Goddard. And NSW had weird two-tone jerseys

[@2TreyRicky]

Correct me if I'm wrong but was this when Fatty's QLD team swept the NSW team

[@michelledavidson8190]

@@2TreyRicky yes it was.

[@snapertaper947]

Michelle Davidson yeah but the question was there a ARL state of origin in 1997

[@chrisr5499]

1995 was a very exciting for Rugby League and Rugby Union but year later League wasn't the same for a 7 years later and despite the rise of Bradford the English League was poor.

[@OGTrollTroll8]

Imagine if Perth reds existed

[@RugbyLeagueHistory]

If they continued to exist after 1997 then Melbourne probably wouldn't have won the grand final in 1999 as some of their key players were originally from Western Reds.

[@BrisbaneBroncosfan67]

@@RugbyLeagueHistorythey also incorporated some staff other people from the Adelaide rams.

[@RugbyLeagueHistory]

@@BrisbaneBroncosfan67 Canberra also got a few of the Adelaide players and staff. I remember reading an interview with Luke Williamson who went on to play for Manly as well state that when Adelaide got wound up he got sold to Canberra along with a few others.

[@jamesandrew664]

Bring back super league

[@milo_g1557]

😂😂😂

[@gazzablanca]

Blocker is looking old.

[@chickennugget6985]

First!!!

[@Scooty_Scooty]

Kenty the flog thinks he knows everything. One of the worst league journalists going around.

[@WTC-1990]

the more I think about it the more I think Superleague should of won the war

[@stuarttopham7642]

You must be a pretty average thinker

[@WTC-1990]

@@stuarttopham7642 the Superleague had a vision for expansion and getting it done as soon as possible with South QLD, North QLD & Perth and were paying players more money the NRL has mismanaged, overspent and saved nothing since this war, it's messed up the game and we are seeing the results of the NRL almost dying as a result of it

[@superchickenmilk]

@@WTC-1990 What are you talking about? Crushers, Reds and NQ were all set up by the NSWRL/ARL