How The United Kingdom's Health-Care System Works

As politicians in the US debate the best health-care policies to replace the current system, the United Kingdom’s National Health Service enjoys huge support from the vast majority of Britons. Despite the high reports of satisfaction with system, many in the UK are calling for reform of the NHS, especially following the UK’s departure from the European Union. Here’s how the NHS works and what reforms may be coming.
CORRECTION (March 6, 2020): At 9:20, a video graphic misspelled the name of Holly Jarman, an assistant professor at the University of Michigan.
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How The United Kingdom's Health-Care System Works

[@krpkrp3033]

The NHS is the UK's one true religion we all believe in.

[@Monkeyatemysoul23]

Krp Krp I think it’s the only thing that will make Brits riot if they try to take it from us that’s why they do a lot of under handed manovere!!

[@thornimation5492]

Krp Krp, absolutely, ever since the NHS was founded back in 1948, back in the Labour Government of Clement Atlee !

[@AdamMGTF]

ThorniMation indeed. But don’t think it was down to labour alone. The Bevin nhs was not meant to last. It was supposed to get the country fit and well and then be closed to return to the old system. However and thankfully it continued in perpetuity. Inspire of all parties using it as a political hot topic to the constant detriment of the NHS itself

[@JH-su9vl]

Yep across all political spectrums

[@harrysinclair5426]

Agreed

[@Dino.808]

As a British citizen, I'm very proud of the NHS. That's why whenever I hear a politician say they want to privatise the NHS I vote for whoever is running against them. Keep your slimy private hands off the NHS! Especially if they from the US we all know what they are like.

[@DB-ug3pe]

Most NHS services have always been provided by private contractors. GPs. If a private company can provide a high quality service for less money why do you think we should keep paying more and getting less?

[@ogc9649]

NHS is kind of a disaster. The quality of care is pretty terrible. Definitely one of the worst in Europe.

[@TKUA11]

DK1 yet nhs buys drugs developed by US companies . If you love the NHS then pay the same prices that US citizens pay for their drugs

[@ogc9649]

TK UA actually they buy generics of drugs developed in the US. US spends all the money developing new drugs and then other countries piggyback off of that.

[@thomascrabtree]

@@ogc9649 The US doesn't produce any drugs, go search it, there hasn't been a single drug made in the US since the last factory closed in the early 00's. The UK is actually a massive drugs researcher and exporter, it's one of the biggest parts of the UK's economy... We actually invent and sell drugs to the US.

[@asuspicioustype12classfrig80]

I’d rather wait a few hours in U.K. rather than being bankrupt

[@ChrispyNut]

If it was gonna make you bankrupt, you'd probably be waiting more than a few hours as U.S. system rations by wallet-size rather than need.

[@ChrispyNut]

@@wulfhere83 Ah, but I bet you had to wait until all your teeth had fallen out, before you got that appointment though, right cos of all the waiting lists /s

[@natalielueders6502]

@@ChrispyNut Uh no? I can call my dentist and be seen the next day (Monday-Friday) or emergency appointments the same day (Monday-Sunday)

[@ChrispyNut]

@@natalielueders6502 I don't know whether you're replying to my first or second response. If first..... Big deal, without knowing how much you pay that's meaningless. If the second, "/s" = "sarcasm".

[@aidansilversmith]

yikes it's not a few hours buddy. It seems every other week the NHS leaves people in medical beds in hallways for weeks to months or until they die. I'm not sure how this video is positive on the NHS. If you wanna know how bad the NHS is just google "NHS in crisis" those articles come out every 3 and a half weeks in the UK

[@LewisAtonn]

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[@tomaszcz_k]

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[@Windarti30]

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[@amenhotepthethird209]

I live in the UK, rarely use the NHS but love that it's there if I need it at almost no cost aside from general taxation. It's one of the best things about this country. Everyone has the equal rights to access quality healthcare and it's good to know that here at least, they do.

[@saqibzaman1476]

Exactly americans think if the doctors free they'll take advantage and keep on going which is not true. I haven't been to the doctors in years because gratefully I haven't needed to. But yes knowing it's there gives an ease of mind

[@amenhotepthethird209]

@@saqibzaman1476 I don't even bother engaging with Americans on this subject. They have been so brainwashed by the politicians that they think it's some socialist game whereby the government decides who lives and dies. This is a perfect example of voting against your own interests and costing many times more for worse outcomes. Reducing live expectancy, increased deaths in childbirth, medical bankruptcy etc.

[@saqibzaman1476]

@@amenhotepthethird209 very true the american media and government has effectively brainwashed all the public into thinking government programmes are communist or something gand their freedoms will be taking away when it actual fact is more freedom u dont need to worry about health care etc

[@amenhotepthethird209]

@@saqibzaman1476 I can't imagine what it feels like having to worry about getting sick. Not being able to afford to to to the doctors. Seemingly, many Americans don't agree that is a basic human right. Even Cuba has a national health system. It's a shame.

[@DB-ug3pe]

@@amenhotepthethird209 it's the same with people who support the NHS. It is far from the best system in the world and the alternative is not the system in America.

[@user-or1tp7cx8u]

I work for the NHS. Believe me when I say it's not perfect. We're understaffed and underfunded. But we get the job done! The NHS is arguably the best British creation. God bless 🇬🇧 and 🇺🇸

[@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748]

nothing great about Britain. I appreciate you guys and what you do & understand why many of you guys leave to go to Australia and wherever else but the people put the NHS even more at risk cus they don't like seeing people like me and you, Tahmed, in 'their country'

[@mitch2413]

fka twigs is the queen of england I reckon hopefully we will see greater funding to NHS after COVID-19 passes over. But who knows.

[@MRHJS]

fka twigs is the queen of england if you think there is nothing great. Leave.

[@amoosed99]

@@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748 I agree. So many people in the UK have completely unjustified prejudice towards foreigners however, I don't believe it is something that stains the entire country. There are plenty of people who appreciate anyone here in Britain regardless of race, religion or nationality

[@The_Greedy_Orphan]

@Tahmed, thank you for your work during this difficult time.

[@lazaruslong1960]

About 30 years ago (yes, I'm old), I was working alongside some American guys on a job here in the UK. Unfortunately one of these guys had an accident and quite badly damaged hi hand- blood every where in spurts level of damage. The first aid guy on our crew got a pressure bandage on the damage and and said that he needed to go to hospital and that he would call an ambulance. The American guy freaked out. The firm that he worked for had not provided medical cover for their team while working abroad, and while his colleagues had taken out medical insurance, he hadn't, so he was panicking about how he would pay for an ambulance and treatment. We explained to him, that, technically as a non Brit he should be charged for treatment, the reality was that in the NHS they very, very rarely did this. In fact they tended NOT to ask about nationality etc, and that it would cost him nothing. He was taken to hospital, having had more work done on his injury by the paramedics who came. He came back to the worksite the following day. He was all bandaged up, and couldn't really work, but he wanted to hear again how we, could afford to offer treatment that would probably cost at the very least several hundred dollars. It took him a while to get his head round how the NHS is funded. 2 years later I ran into the same guy on another work site . He had gone back to the States and looked into how Britain was run, education, healthcare, policing etc. He made the decision that although he loved the USA, he decided to emigrate to the UK with his wife and their daughter because he could see that here we, have very similar ideals to the USA, but are a safer country to live and raise a family. His daughter (and her 2 brothers who were born here) are British citizens.

[@georgenicholls5580]

Great story! I'm definitely very proud to live in the UK with the NHS

[@farismalik4857]

I'm glad I read this 👍 big up NHS 💪

[@barbaravyse660]

I’m an American and got food poisoning or a tummy virus last year while in London. Had to go to the emergency room and wasn’t charged anything. My biggest criticism is the lack of empathy the front desk employees displayed. Here in Miami , the waiting room staff make sure you are comfortable (i.e. get you a blanket, barf bag) while waiting.

[@drzej3k794]

Barbara Vyse with visits to NHS hospitals etc they will expect you to sort yourself out in some respects such as keeping pressure on a wound or bringing water or food with you especially if you are waiting to be admitted. If your not a serious case then, you generally have to have a bit of common sense and a stiff upper lip. In the U.K. there is very much a “just get on with it” attitude for a lot of things.

[@lzh4950]

Reminds me in my country where some employers & doctors have been called out for giving their employees only 2 days of MC for worksite accidents, when their injuries actually require additional MC, because my country's legislation allows employers to not report worksite accidents if the MC given is less than 3 days

[@Josh-oj9mm]

American politics: 1% actually doing anything 99% circlejerking on whether something is "socialism" or "capitalism"

[@Symphiney]

I don't think many of these Americans actually understand the differences between these economic systems. They're just taught "capitalism good, socialism bad".

[@aliveandunwell430]

“I will never forgive the politicians!”

[@nxronite9994]

You're right. Many of us here are ignorant and propagandized by corporate media.

[@Sarge084]

The problem is that Americans have been conditioned to think that socialism is the same as soviet communism, that politics is a simple black and white choice with no shades of grey in between. That's why the rest of the world laughs when Bernie Sanders is described as "far left"!

[@Ilaunchnukes]

@@Sarge084 then how come almost every attempt at socialism has failed? And don't tell me Europe is socialist, they have some of the best business and free market environments on Earth.

[@torranirwinnw5422]

The NHS is one of our proudest achievements

[@abidfokrul]

Torran Irwin NW5 surely it is.

[@AtheistEve]

Torran Irwin NW5 Pity that successive tory and neoliberal governments have been quietly gutting it whilst the adoring British public pretend it isn’t happening and continue to vote for more austerity for the many. All government ministers should be forced to use publicly-owned schools and healthcare providers. Then we might see some proper investment.

[@OnlyGrafting]

@@AtheistEve I'm sure they'll have realised how important support for the NHS really is once the pandemic blows over. Took a huge chunk off their money simply because they wouldn't invest properly in it before hand and I doubt they'll let a mistake like that happen again if they can help it.

[@AtheistEve]

Logan R I doubt it. People continue to vote against their best interests every time.

[@sunseeker9581]

@@OnlyGrafting the tories always want to make cuts. Its in their DNA

[@joshius7047]

I could never imagine getting a bill when leaving the hospital. Why do America hate this idea?

[@SK-zy2ri]

Exactly it's stupid but Americans knows best

[@itsonlysound]

It's frightening, isn't it? As if being sick and in hospital isn't awful enough, extra stress is piled on top of you.

[@C-RENITY]

@@ashlyr4385 fear of socialism even though the UK is far from socialist except really for the NHS? Pretty much everything else I can think of has been privatised. Come on American citizens wake up its the best thing since sliced bread

[@mattkennedy6115]

Americans are afraid that they’re taxes will go up and they’ll be limited by choice. Change is scary and this would be a huge change. Also the powers that be have everything to gain by keeping the system here status quo so they highlight and regurgitate all the shortcomings of medical care in the UK, Canada, France etc. to further instill fear in the American populace. What’s really messed up is how we call this a free market system. It’s not free market. I can’t price compare procedures from one hospital to another, Health Insurance companies can’t compete with each other across state lines thus lowering premiums. We also can’t legally (although this is more frowned upon than enforced) purchase drugs from other countries. Why? Because the government says we can’t. If Socialism is equated with authoritarianism then how’s that for the latter?

[@joevictor53]

Joshius from what I understand, they think they'll be paying a huge amount for other people through taxes. They don't seem to understand that we don't pay ridiculous amounts of taxes for this in countries like the UK

[@JCstone1000]

I find it totally bizarre to hear the NHS described as some impossible dream. It’s your right. Literally what is the point of schools, roads, police, firemen, if you’re dead

[@Saliem02]

Ok look at it from the perspective of someone who has lived in the US all their life and paying large amounts of money for healthcare is all we have ever known, we didn't choose to be born here but we were and this is the life we know and so free healthcare is a foreign concept to us that seems like a pipe dream.

[@adambrickell6425]

Healthcare is not a right! It's a commodity! No one should be forced to care of anyone else unless they want to.

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@Saliem02 sad

[@RealFemale69]

@@adambrickell6425 The UN, and therefore every nation, agrees it is a right

[@Zureta5]

Every country in the world have those "benefits" because they pay taxes. US is better, or so they think. Greetings from Brazil.

[@nuclearmuscle2029]

UK : "Healthcare" ❤ USA : "sOciaLiAsEd hEaLtHcArE!"

[@sabi2557]

They politicise everything

[@stitches768]

It's ridiculous

[@aliveandunwell430]

literally anything involving working together is “socialism” and “communism” apparently

[@lochsidefishing5103]

@@sabi2557 Masks are politicised now it's hilarious. If you wear a mask you are a communist. If you dont you are a nazi. Americans and their simplistic way of thinking.

[@idontwanttopickone]

@@aliveandunwell430 I mean working together is Socialist and Communist to some degree. The problem with America is the irrational fear of the terms Socialism or Communism and failing to recognise the benefits they bring to a society. In reality most western countries have very good established socialist models that help people get out of sickness and poverty, and back to being functional members of society that can support the rest of society. Roads, fire brigades, street lights, schools, tons of infrastructure, the military, police, boarder guards, healthcare, elections, unemployment benefits, national parks, national museums... etc. are all socialist. We as a country pay a little money from our earnings into a big public pot and then redistribute that pot so it can support everyone in society and allow them to become people who earn and look after themselves and others, in turn paying into that same public pot. This is a socialist system that works along side a capatalist system and its generally a very good model as it offsets some of the worst aspects of Capitalism while not constraining the population to the inherent issues with a purely Communist model.

[@autumntriesthings]

It baffles me that America thinks fighting for basic human rights is a “radical” “far left” idea 😩

[@paulie3748]

And it's meant to be the land of the free 😂😂

[@davidbrayshaw6162]

I’m British - we do find our health services! We pay for it as part of our taxes! We are not a socialist country, but we British believe that tax is not a bad thing as long as it is spent on things that are beneficial for us! In America tax is a dirty word and generally Americans believe in lowest lower bottom tax levels as possible! We do not see it as socialist! We are not a socialist nation but we see fairness very very differently to America! We see the American system as broken too expensive and discriminatory (not on colour or religion but financial!). I have see this report and you have missed one huge point! The people of Britain would not stand for the loss of the NHS it is central to our culture and it all parties know this! The NHS is not for sale! EVER! But I agree with you Aki Fujikawa! But the bottom line is TAX! And how taxes are spent or how much they are!

[@David_Khu]

@Crispy Bud where did you get that nonsense from?? 😄😄 "Daily Mail", I guess... It costs symbolic amount of money, just to avoid people going there for almost no reason... also yang and older people are exempt from those fees

[@darkmusky9851]

They been watching too much Fox news

[@irrelevance3859]

Americans are terrified of tax for whatever reason which is beyond me because the sole purpose is to benefit the PEOPLE. On top of that it's cheaper than insurance because *everyone* is contributing, it's more expensive to build up insurance that only you will be paying than for everyone to pay a small % that benefits everyone equally. People there are so terrified of tax for no reason.

[@avocatobobble]

The NHS is one of the few things that make me proud to be British. Everybody working at the NHS are the real living superheroes of today.

[@nativenewlondoner]

BB Entertainment Indeed 👍

[@LS-bw7jt]

We're british and proud

[@Salena905]

@@hobmoor2042 yeah I agree, fed up with the slightest thing and they're down on our country as if we are rotten or pathetic. We can't win sometimes. But I love this country and there's more good, kind people living here than horrible, racist etc people. Let them moan,we know the truth and we're proud. 🇬🇧❤️💙💜💛🧡💚👏👏

[@simmer484]

Many great people work for the NHS but in reality not everyone working in the NHS is a hero. Keep in mind that there is an army of non clinical NHS workers in which the spread of good people who add value is about the same as private companies in my experience.

[@khoo7732]

Here here. I would rather pay more tax and keep our healthcare. It’s such an important part of our country and I wouldn’t want anyone having to decide between being well or bankrupt!

[@liberallarry847]

"Reforming the NHS" simply means deciding how to adequately fund it. It does not mean fundamentally changing the system.

[@ecg865]

“Reforming” the NHS means destroying it or changing it so much that it’s not the same system anymore. “Reforming” is just a word to sugarcoat it. 🧐

[@meandthepotatoes4916]

So much middle management in the NHS they could cull and give the nurses more

[@skellurip]

reforming nhs is euphemism of making it more like american health care system

[@illegitimateotaku794]

Bernie Sanders is a godsend for Americans and they don't even realise it. The US is missing out and it's sad.

[@nabilmiah4428]

I'm from the UK and agree with free healthcare. But the issue is in the US Bernie's plan is too fast and too destructive. Yes, you should move towards a system that provides cheap/free healthcare however you need to also take care of those who work in the private insurance industry that would get shut down. Your countries system has been the same for so long that it will take a while to introduce such a system hence Andrew Yang's plan should have been taken more seriously.

[@illegitimateotaku794]

@@meganwallace5556 I know, I just wish the Democrats had Bernie instead of Biden.

[@jamesburge9145]

Nbernje sounds nice but he can't get his policies to add up and that's a major issue like Blair labour that can leave a country bankrupt

[@Jemalacane0]

No he isn't.

[@alexlivesey6821]

@@Jemalacane0 such an astute argument. Well done sir. You win.

[@LD-bj4xc]

As a teenager from the UK I would like to put my perspective forward,i was born into a family of 4 siblings raised by divorced parents so we didn’t have much money, none of my siblings had any needs from the NHS however I had a form of cancer in my ear, 2 asthma attacks, grommets, tonsillitis and pneumonia all of which in between the space of 2 years. I would have died if I had lived in America as my bill would have come to around £300,000 minimum. My family members will no doubt pay the government back on the cost of these via tax rather than profit going to private companies that would overcharge or have simply left me to die. I owe my life to the NHS and the great staff who cared for me Edit: after other people mentioned these things there’s other things I’ve forgotten such a braces, the time I fainted and the 4 teeth I needed removing, there is also things all the checks my mother would have had if I was born in hospital like my siblings(born in my moms bedroom) and vaccines and asthma inhalers along with multiple of my grommets falling out days after surgery.I’ve never had any problems with ambulance times and it’s agreed that it’s a matter of government spending,most people want more funding for the NHS which is why every political party has it in their manifesto

[@Bruss390]

My Thoughts wish more people saw this

[@ronaldparry6147]

Best thing I’ve read. I also owe so much to the NHS, my dad has had 3 heart attacks, my mum spent almost 4 months in hospital with leg problems, I’ve had countless asthma attacks and we’re all on medication. For me alone, my inhalers would cost around £200 a month, and as a student who works part time, you would have to make a choice between breathing or an education.

[@amakabeibe]

❤️❤️❤️

[@lydiaah6282]

Same here. My family have had to deal with ‘little’ things like broken elbows all they way up to having a pacemaker fitted( after having to call an ambulance basically every year for 4 years as my brothers heart kept stopping) My sister worked for the NHS as a midwife before she left giving many years to the service. Is it perfect? No- having a family member who works for the NHS shows you that. But I am forever thankful for it and for all the people behind it.

[@khalebrobertson9907]

I too have suffered through the trauma of grommets... in all seriousness though you must be an absolute beast to have survived all that, even with the NHS

[@jogolock1190]

The USA has the biggest defence budget in the world, all American's contribute to that via their taxes, so Uncle Sam has a socialised defence budget. Go figure.

[@TheWeepingDalek]

The president himself is paid via taxes. Meaning the leader is socialised

[@Inurendo88]

Don't get me started on their commie roads. Highways are a soviet plot I tell you.

[@NAUM1]

The US does have the largest defense budget, and it helps other countries more than our own. Imagine the day we stop having military bases abroad and other countries have to start footing the bill for their own protection. We are the developed country that relies the least amount on international trade. I am one for our country to stop defending other countries and let them take over and see how it turns out. And we could fund our healthcare with that money. But oh wait, I forget we already spend more on Medicare and Medicaid than our defense budget. And those are for the elderly and the poor. Maybe it is more than just taking away military spending.

[@Inurendo88]

@@NAUM1 the reason your healthcare costs so much more is the fact that you allow hospitals, doctors, and big pharma to set their own prices. One of the advantages of universal healthcare is that your country has the ability to negotiate down those prices on your behalf. When you are sick your ability to drive the price of treatment is effectively zero. But the government has a pretty effective bargaining chip. Us. The entire population of your country. Either you give us treatment at a price that we believe is fair, or you lose access to the entire population. Considering that in my country I pay less than half for my healthcare than you do, and we experience far better outcomes, it seems to be working.

[@bobs182]

@@NAUM1 The US didn't help anyone by FUBARing Iraq.

[@valentinenew9973]

The NHS is absolutely amazing and makes me extremely proud to be British! Healthcare is a right not a luxury.

[@stitches768]

Damn right about that

[@carl4243]

Lol NHS is a failure.

[@maxmccann5323]

@@carl4243 at least it actually exists 👀

[@handzar6402]

The NHS is garbage, it needs to die.

[@dominicj7977]

@@handzar6402 And then replace it with what?

[@ethanmartin1481]

“No society can legitimately call itself civilised if a sick person is denied medical aid because of a lack of means.”

[@latom-sensei2554]

I really wonder if 'the right to life' is actually a right in the USA

[@Saliem02]

They don't deny anyone medical aid, they will just take all of your money after they save your life

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@Saliem02 lmao what you smokin

[@carl4243]

Lol NHS is a failure.

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@carl4243 source?

[@maybaby13x]

When you look at the difference in UK vs US healthcare, remember no one in the UK has ever taken an Uber to hospital in an emergency because they’re worried about an ambulance bill.

[@paulching8795]

The ambulances are either run by the NHS (e.g. LAS) or working with the NHS (St John etc.) and therefore free of charge. Nobody should take an Uber to A&E because of car accidents or heart attacks.

[@lucisano]

I've taken an Uber to the hospital in a "non emergency" I broke my arm. I did not need to waste the time of an ambulance when a taxi was faster.

[@Sam-gf6ue]

@@lucisano well you wouldn't be able to get an ambulance most likely unless you couldn't physically leave your house without support.

[@shelleyphilcox4743]

People in the UK dont call an ambulance unless its needed. Basic breaks, injuries etc they would get a lift to A&E. Worse breaks for hips or legs, head injury, stroke, heart attack, breathing problems etc, they would call an ambulance. It depends on urgency of the problem, suitability of appropriate transport and proximity to the A&E dept.

[@grahvis]

It should be taken into account that, depending on the nature of the emergency, treatment starts the moment the person enters the ambulance. I once had to call an ambulance to get my disabled neighbour off the floor after she had fallen.

[@StripyViper]

The NHS makes me proud to be British!

[@anthony.m5432]

Same!!!

[@rungeon83]

Makes me ashamed, I've sadly been let down by the NHS (which is not free considering the UK has some of the highest tax in the world). Had I known how terrible the NHS was, I would have just gone private earlier.

[@sunseeker9581]

@BigWilki123321 everyone gets healthcare in the uk for half the price and 99% of the nation are also proud. And no taxes are not very high here. Scandenavia tax is high but you get a lot more for your money like free university and strong welfare.

[@mark63424able]

@BigWilki123321 No, its because we look at the US and see that the number one cause of bankruptcy is due to medical bills. We see they are paying more than twice as much as we do per person and yet have higher child mortality rates and lower life expectancy. All of this has been crystal clear to UK citizens since the NHS was founded after WWII- and has been made even clearer in this pandemic. Its why all political parties in the UK (both left and right wing) support the NHS. It guarantees healthcare for the vulnerable in society all while costing substantially less than the US system. There are fundamental ideological differences between the UK and USA that aren't always obvious but are underlined by our approaches to healthcare. I had surgery under the NHS that would have cost $200,000 had it been in the US, and I didn't have to pay a penny upfront, I know that I have and will pay back into the system through tax over the course of my lifetime. The UK praises its NHS like the US praises its military, its one of the few things that everyone in the UK stands behind and is one of the things that makes me proud to be British.

[@kingstontown7362]

splonkernoodle same I'm from Shrewsbury in the West Midlands living in telford

[@andykenny5674]

I’m from the U.K., and one of the things that makes me proud to be British is the NHS. No it’s not free, and yes we all have to pay for it - but I wouldn’t have it any other way.

[@Mashmarriner69]

I would much rather pay an extra couple of hundred pounds a month (which we don't even think about) to have the NHS. Than be on my deathbed and have to remortgage my home to pay for my healthcare

[@Kingofthenet2]

@@Mashmarriner69agreed

[@sakhawatrahman4961]

Bernie Sanders is not Far-Left, he would be considered regular left here in the UK. Edit: He’s not as far left as former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was. But Sanders is still far left enough to lose an election.

[@saasda6255]

Not even really left maybe free college is bit left but the rest is quite normal

[@saasda6255]

@Graham, King of the Britons! yeah its strange

[@lochsidefishing5103]

@@saasda6255 You got free college and university tuition in Scotland.

[@tallthinkev]

@@lochsidefishing5103 You also get Wee Krankie and her 'It's all England's fault.'

[@randomk7198]

@@tallthinkev written by an english person

[@mokkymiah2742]

I rarely use the NHS but I am more than happy to continue paying my taxes to support the NHS as it benefits everyone in my country.

[@banshee1998]

Like people who eat themselves to oblivion and require intensive care once they develop severe heart disease? Yeah no thanks.

[@niallschiefler8636]

#00FF00GRAVITY Unlike America that doesn’t happen much here.

[@danwbeeston6146]

@@banshee1998 Yep even them. Bad decisions doesn't mean we should let something die. Society has a duty to help those in need

[@ellamedley7558]

@@banshee1998 yes. Because a tiny amount is going to them. A large amount is going to the teenager who was just involved in a hit and run. The parents can stay by their bed side and care for them. Or the chronically ill child with cancer, who can stay in hospital for months at a time undergoing intense treatment and it not cost a penny. Or the palative care for the 89 year old grandma that means she is comfortable in her last hours. Or the team that saves a mother and her child in a complex delivery. Not to mention the mental heath care that just stopped a 22 year old man from killing himself

[@ellamedley7558]

@Aj you comments don't make much sense

[@mahdimohammadi9944]

I’m from Austria. I wouldn’t call Bernie a “far left politician”. Here in Europe we would call him a center left or a social democrat.

[@GuinessOriginal]

Mahdi Mohammadi I think he's about as left wing as Merkel. Their policies are probably pretty much aligned, in fact he might be too the right of her on some issues. And I don't remember anyone in Germany accusing her of being far left

[@adamgriffin8197]

Guinness yeah but in Europe even merkel isn’t considered far left. Although I would say she leans to the left I wouldn’t class it as extreme. But that’s just my view and I am an outsider to German politics so I may be wrong.

[@damedusa5107]

Adam Griffin yer I think she’s more to the right. But I’m the USA they would think she was a full blown communist.

[@GuinessOriginal]

Adam Griffin no Merkel is to right of politics in Germany. Ask a German

[@sumvs5992]

I mean, he's agreed with many communist countries. Not far left though?

[@FionaMu]

"longer to see GP's" - Lol I can call my GP at 8am tomorrow and see them same day. I had a bad kidney infection last year and needed to see someone asap on a weekend. I called 111 and went to an out of hours GP surgery few hours later and got the free medication I needed to feel better within 48 hours.

[@charlesbentley6033]

Depends were you are though. In some areas, theres one practice for multiple areas with high driving times. And in places like London, ive felt that it can take a while. Though overall I do prefer our system

[@jameshughes5722]

Average wait to see a doctor in the US is 24 days. in the uk it's 15 days. The waiting list in the uk is a myth it's comparable with the US or better in most cases the only part of the american health system that is better is at the sharp end of the system with state of the art devices and treatments. Treatments and devises most Americans can't actually afford. In order for this to happen they lower the levels of care at the very bottom the idea in the US of preventative care is none existent. You make more money in treatment than you do insuring people don't get sick. In the Uk the NHS save money preventing illness so that is the approach they take. Mental health care in the US is a joke as well.

[@JohnCorrUK]

@@charlesbentley6033 There's NHS at Hand in London that deliveries services digitally with clinics around London if you need to see someone face to face. My 'ordinary' GP practice in West London now does most doctors calls by phone/ video - ring in the morning and get a callback later that morning ... Digital prescriptions mean your prescriptions can be fulfilled at a pharmacy anywhere in the country. Americans are being deceived by misleading emotive language - on the UK you have the right to free medical treatment and that can be delivered through a public or private provider.

[@cyberash3000]

I've never waited more than a day for a doctor. A good. For specialised issues I've had to wait a week or two but it was none urgent.

[@kdog4587]

Same here. Called regarding my son this morning at 9, appointment at 11.40. Can't argue with that

[@slimblu1]

The U.K has many issues to address but I'm so grateful for our N.H.S.. I can only imagine the trauma of having a loved one needing vital, emergency medical treatment and being asked for their insurance policy before they are treated.

[@CharlieFlemingOriginal]

I work at a theatre and an American shocked me when she said people with epilepsy in the U.S wear bracelets saying "DONT call an ambulance" as they can't afford the bills. I was shocked that supposedly "the greatest country in the world" doesn't care for the health of it's people. Furthermore I have only needed hospitalisation ONCE and that was to have a tooth out... I didn't have to pay... never ONCE in 35 years have I spent a second resenting that my tax is spent on free healthcare. Never!

[@anthonyh4745]

You have to pay for dental treatment in the U.K, it’s about 50% subsidised by the NHS.

[@grahvis]

There is a video made by an American living in the UK who has epilepsy. He described having the NHS as having a good friend when in need.

[@grahammcvicar3804]

@@anthonyh4745 Not everyone pays for dental care in the UK

[@COOLUKGAMER]

@@anthonyh4745 Just to add on to another comment replying to yours. Typically only adults pay a fee of dental, or eye checkups. Otherwise for children, it is free and covered fully by the NHS (anyone under the age of 19). If it is a serious issue involving the eyes or teeth that will have you undergo an operation in a hospital, it will be covered by the NHS. Stuff for glasses such as lens thinning and anti-glare are add-ons to be paid for but are discounted iirc? Someone will have to correct me on that.

[@alundavies8402]

I am disabled and always injuring myself and the last time I seriously injured my body I never went to hospital because of the fares to hospital and so I didn’t get treated because I didn’t have enough money to get to hospital not because of the treatment

[@richardmaddocks4243]

Let me explain this in a way someone from any country can understand. I have a job. I earn about $1500 a month. The British government takes about $100 a month from my salary. In return, any healthcare I might need is free. If I don't have a job, any healthcare I might need is still free, because all the other people who are paying a small amount of their salary to the government are helping to pay for the people who don't have a job. It works both ways and is very fair.

[@angelantayhua3096]

wHy SHouLd I pAY FOr sOmeONe elSE. THeY aRe leeCHeS

[@TheWeepingDalek]

@@angelantayhua3096 because it could happen to you one day. And on that day someone else will pay for you.

[@ollaphobos8988]

@@TheWeepingDalek I think he was joking

[@arunsreenivasan2074]

Koba He was being sarcastic. Also I’ve always wanted to do this r/whooooosh

[@djlads]

@Chelsea Exactly, what you're told by even the Democrats about what this will cost is a lie. Here's a full example of costs. In the UK nobody pays tax or National Insurance (NI) (NI is health and state pension) until they earn £9,500 per year ($11,885.35) once they hit above that they start paying NI at 12% until they earn above £50,000 ($62,554.50) then it drops to 2%. Once people earn over £12,500 per year ($15,638.63) you start paying Income Tax at 20% until they earn over £50,000 ($62,554.50) then it goes to 40%, then at £150,000 ($187,663.50) it goes to 45%. Employers have to pay towards all Employees National insurance at 13.8% based on that persons salary/wage once it goes above £9,500 ($11,885.35). Regardless of how high the salary is. 23 million people in the UK pay no income tax, let's for example say they earn £12,000 ($15013.08) per year that means they only pay £332.16 ($415.56) per year their employer would pay £381.98 ($477.89) per year. In total that would be £16,425,220,000 or $20,549,428,489.80 towards the NHS and state pension. If you were earning £55,000 ($68,809.95) per year you'd pay £5,011.56 ($6269.91) whilst your employer would pay £6,019.28 ($7530.66) At £160,000 ($200,174.40) you pay £7,006.56 ($8765.84) per year and the employer pays £19,784.78 ($24,752.54) At £500,000 ($625,545.00) you pay £13,466.56 ($16,847.88) per year and your employer pays £64,358.78 ($80,518.63) Employers also have to pay it for any company car, phone, expenses or payout of contract, employees don't. This all goes out before your net pay, it doesn't cost people much, maybe those fighting against it are employers who do have to pay more.

[@Kosiahswag1]

I used to live in Belgium. We had to pay for medical insurance but it was very inexpensive only about €100 per year. The healthcare was brilliant and definitely worth it.

[@roops2939]

This won't work in the UK. The people are not open for new ideas and new systems. Look at the crumbling UK infrastructure, transport , health service, education system etc all dismal failures

[@gingazhawthorn2984]

i live in UK - got diagnosed with breast cancer in August 2020. Had operation within 2 weeks of diagnosis, radiotherapy in the September and back at work beginning of November. Brilliant service, no long waiting times. Caring follow-up. NHS is the best. Anyone who knocks it is ignorant of the facts or lying.

[@jess4709]

I’m a U.K. citizen and I’d never heard of the term “socialised medicine” until today. Don’t knock the NHS, we’re all generally happy with it.

[@krashd]

If it's payed for by everyone and available to everyone then it is socialised, just like the police, fire department, military, schools, libraries, etc. All socialised.

[@jess4709]

Rob Fraser and what’s the issue with that though... Americans use this phrase like socialised medicine is a *bad* thing. But having education, emergency services etc available to everyone isn’t really bad is it? How can equal access be bad? What we’re seeing in America is those who can not afford health care are being unfairly disadvantaged and are in a much much worse position. This would never happen in the UK because *everybody* has access to healthcare, regardless of their socioeconomic background.

[@krashd]

@@jess4709 There is no issue with it. Conservative Americans just don't like socialism because they are told to by the rich US aristocracy. In the early 1900's socialist and communist movements spread around the world as working class people decided to seize power from the ultra rich. In the US they at first criminalised socialists as "communist sympathisers" until that was deemed unconstitutional and then they tried to limit exposure to socialism by blacklisting anyone on TV or radio who spoke about it. Eventually they discovered that you could just brainwash the masses by convincing them that socialism was created by Satan or that being socialist means living like the North Koreans do. The billionaires that pull the strings will do anything to protect their obscene profits, much of which they get from charging sick people.

[@jess4709]

Rob Fraser ... we’re not socialist? We have a conservative government that still supports the NHS (I say ‘support’ despite it being underfunded)

[@krashd]

@@jess4709 We are capitalist socialist, we were fully socialist after world war 2 when everything got nationalised under labour but the Tories have gradually privatised everything and those privatised industries have moved abroad. British Leyland Motorcars, British Rail, British Steel, British Aerospace, British Petroleum, etc, all got sold off and eventually moved elsewhere. That's what happens when you sell something, the new owner can switch it off and take it with them.

[@SUPERRANDOMCLIP]

Imagine playing football in the US and your mate puts a bad, mistimed tackle in that breaks your leg and bankrupts your family. Mind boggling that in the UK you would just pop down to A&E and leave later for FREE

[@sp3ckedout224]

SUPERRANDOMCLIP tbh you wouldn’t be playing football in the US...

[@alastairp]

You don't know the meaning of the word free, also expect to wait 3 hours at a&e.

[@Eliteerin]

@@alastairp it's cheap however, considering national insurance is so cheap

[@alastairp]

@@Eliteerin Not for the rich, it's very expensive for them.

[@ikebuttle360]

@@alastairp only experience I've had was when I broke my ankle, ambulance called, rushed in right away, x-rayed etc within the hour of it happening, stayed the night, was operated on and left by morning, couldn't have been more efficient

[@cammysmith7562]

As a conservative I think the NHS is the greatest thing to ever happen to this country. Healthcare is a right not a privilege and I will fight to defend healthcare for all people in the UK.

[@jamesabestos2800]

As long as you’re not dying or really sick then no

[@user-wz7ef1fv4m]

Thank God we don't have free health care... 4 months wait for a 10 minute consultation with a doctor 😂. The NHS is the favourite tool of Brits to shame other countries and the best boasting tool... Lmao they comment on American and other rich countries health care systems. The NHS seems like a policy for the poor people, of the poor country, financed by poor citizens. 😂

[@user-wz7ef1fv4m]

Yep, look up, by NHS rules a doctor isn't allowed to meet his/her patients for more than 10 minutes. Every appointment with a doctor takes a minimum of 13 weeks. It's all a scam. Oh, one more thing, if you have a diabetic l, blood pressure and heart problems. You are allowed to treat only one problem at a time. For the other two you'll have to wait again for 13 x 2 weeks.

[@thomasscullion9449]

As a Scotsman man growing up in the UK the NHS is our crown jewel. We all share the cost because we all care

[@skellurip]

your crown jewel is secretly changed into american flavor health care insurance system

[@thomasscullion9449]

@@skellurip is it because i just got two operations within a twelfth week window that in the states would have cost me £160000 but hey Ho I just got the bill and it was, oh sorry I didn't get a bill so NHS ALL THE WAY

[@skellurip]

@@thomasscullion9449 watch dirty war on the nhs. basically you can get way much better and faster healthcare on NHS than what you get right now

[@_Ali.]

“Socialised medicine” because everyone pays for it? So, is it a “socialised police service” or do you pay every time you dial 911? How about when your house catches fire? Is that a pay per use service?

[@anserbauer309]

I think it's funny how Americans always want to apply their own loaded terminology and binary political standards to other countries whose political discourse and social awareness are so much more sophisticated and developed. It's like listening to a ten year old try to explain 'ethics' to a moral philosopher.

[@grahvis]

@@anserbauer309 . I think it's because a large percentage of US citizens have absolutely no idea how things are so different in most other countries. America is virtually the only country in the world where workers have no legal entitlement to paid annual leave, yet few appear to realise what they are missing. They claim universal healthcare would mean raising taxes but again don't realise, they are already paying more for far less.

[@feebeejeebees]

Far too many Americans cannot differentiate between socialism and communism. As you point out, they already have socialised police, fire department, also education from kindergarten through high school. And what is the military, if not socialised defence ? So why not healthcare ? The answer is money. Too many big corporations are making billions from the system in its current format, and they are not going to give up without a big fight. So they talk down socialism as if it's evil like communism, when the reality is it's looking after your fellow American. What could be more patriotic than that ?

[@AKAL-th6dl]

grahvis Most don’t even have retirement plans and no pensions

[@ikay87]

The ignorance is mind boggling!

[@cheoart6308]

My father had a double brain aneurism, he was in hospital for nearly a year recovering and is still going well after 20 years, FOR FREE! Bless the NHS.

[@helenwood8482]

My brother had severe diabetes and lost his job. In the US, the whole family would have had to sell everything they had and it would still have quickly run out. His treatments to delay blindness alone would have cost tens of thousands and he got it all free. He would have died a decade sooner if he had been in the US and my father would have ended up homeless and penniless.

[@alastairp]

It's not for free, it's the government taking your money running it through a bureaucratic system and then turning around and expecting you to be happy with the result. That is unless you are a leech on the system who makes less than 30k.

[@alastairp]

@Benji Winger The point that this system has been in place since I was born and no larger political party has put privatisation of it in their manifesto, so I am forced to continue paying more than if I was in a private system.

[@disceva6443]

@@alastairp I think I've seen you in almost every comment chain on this video. If you don't mind me asking, do you live in the UK, and have you actually used the NHS?

[@alastairp]

@@disceva6443 Yes, Yes

[@tommiddleton6590]

I think the NHS is probably the only British service that I’d keep nationalised.

[@Identifyplumbing]

I’ve had three children all in the nhs including one that was Caesarean section birth. Cost zero. Excellent service and staffing. Every car crash or illness is covered for everyone. Regardless of how your career of general circumstances are. Everyone on the globe should have a similar system.

[@levlynds1902]

It's pretty bad that Americans need to have a video to show how healthcare should be managed in a developed country.

[@egge6145]

that would imply they took in the information

[@colinward1007]

@@egge6145 maybe the producer should have put the odd image of a gun in the video to keep them interested.

[@BritishFreedom]

You should have a read of this. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-50836324 The media has an agenda, selling the benefits of the NHS, but it's not all that rosey. There's pros ann cons.

[@user-oj8pg6ef4c]

BritishFreedom so u gave an example of one horribly managed hospital out of all in the U.K.👏

[@djlads]

@@BritishFreedom Yet another non British person spreading propaganda about how bad the NHS is by use 1 example. www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40608253 here's one from a US Think Tank that put UK 1st and America last out of 11 countries. worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/best-healthcare-in-the-world here's another, ok the UK is 18th here, but the US is 37th behind Costa Rica and just above Slovenia!

[@battmarn]

Here’s how it works UK: “I feel ill, I’ll go see a doctor in case it’s anything serious” US: “I feel ill. I hope it’s nothing serious because I can’t afford to go see a doctor”

[@nick260682]

Sam Doohan I think you’ve taken a basic imagined scenario and imposed the worst possible intentions, and in doing so completely missed the original point.

[@LongdownConker]

@@lostalone9320 I'm guessing you have never heard of triage lol 😂

[@paulching8795]

We first go to the chemist if there are some concerns. Then if it’s something more serious, we will see a GP, and if necessary, a specialist or allied health practitioner. If something really bad happens, we can go to the A&E and have things sorted. Or in the worst case scenarios, we can call 999 and get an ambulance to the A&E for treatment.

[@LongdownConker]

@@paulching8795 or call 111 for minor ailments or advice

[@xjadit7826]

Sam Doohan your missing the point the point is we don’t have to worry about bankrupting our selves for a routine check up most of us brits wouldn’t go “just in case” but we could

[@slimlegs6298]

The fact that Bernie Sanders is considered ‘far-left’ is depressing

[@MarineAqua45]

In Britain,he’d be centre-left.

[@Name-iq8te]

@@MarineAqua45 he'd be right of centre

[@FaBB10_FS24]

@@Name-iq8te There is nothing right about his views and opinions.

[@shrek19yearsago78]

Joe Biden is considered a conservative in some developed countries

[@FaBB10_FS24]

@@shrek19yearsago78 No he isnt.

[@LivvyHackett]

If I’m correct, in the Uk, if you are 18+, you pay about $10 for *any* prescription, no matter if the raw cost of the drug is £1 or £100, it’s amazing for people with chronic expensive medical problems

[@thebestspork]

Couple of small corrections: prescriptions are free in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. In England, they are about £10 per item, however if you need regular prescriptions you can pay a flat fee (£30 for 3 months or £110 for an entire year) which will cover the cost of all prescriptions during that period.

[@phoenix-xu9xj]

You pay nothing if it’s a life-saving drug. Like insulin. Inhalers. Etc

[@RedBrigades]

Yes. Only for those in work earning a certain ammount have to pay. But if you are on different meds, picking up your monthly perscription for 5 different meds...5 lots (blood pressure meds, anti-depresents, diabeties meds, epilepsy meds, anti-biotic, pain killers, sleepers 🤤😂 opiods, creams, vitamins and everyrhing you can think of. of 30 days medication....it is still £10. One item or 10. Still a flat rate of £10. But most people will go because of a painful water infection that won't shift for example. Do your samples, get your meds amd away you go. Be riots (forever) if they tried to sell it off.

[@manzilla48]

I’d rather have access to free health care than access to guns...

[@welshgit]

There was an American ranting on youtube a while back, saying that gun ownership is a fundamental natural human right, but healthcare is a privilege...

[@Eliteerin]

@@welshgit what a nutter 😂

[@tommygunner321]

I love America, I respect most Americans for their proud patriotic view on their country, in fact I envy them I think it’s brilliant. But the one thing I hate about the US and Americans in general is their blind stupidity towards guns. Most argue that you need guns to protect yourself, but the only reason they need to protect themselves in the first place is because people have guns...??. Here in the UK I think it’s 10-50 people die every year from guns (or a similar number). I understand that most Americans are proud of the ‘Right to bear arms’, but the US would be so much safer and better to live in without.

[@slooser]

tommygunner321 we get more than 10 deaths a year. I’d say between 60-150, but it’s still insultingly low compared to the USA

[@tommygunner321]

Fiddly Polo-English dude Slusarczyk There’s no way we get ‘60-150’ that number is preposterous. I can’t remember the last time I read about a shooting or heard about one in the news, I’d say 10-25 per year at tops, people just don’t get shot in the UK and dying from being shot? Very rare. Usually when they do it’s in an area like Greater London or Manchester but even then most crimes are with blades/blunt weapons.

[@anthonyl.goraczko6099]

Not only the UK , but most of Europe has this system , and 99% of the people like it .

[@flynnparish9833]

@Arthur Clements socialists don't like math.

[@anthonyl.goraczko6099]

@Arthur Clements Well GENIUS , I just mean the majority .

[@nottsoserious]

@@anthonyl.goraczko6099 Why don't we think about it this way? A majority of people in most of Europe's legislatures is all that is needed to pass a law. In the US, on the other hand, you need a majority of the house and 60% of senators?! Also the president can veto the law, and if he does you need 66% of the entire Congress to overturn it!? Even if a majority of a people like an idea, the minority can make it null. God bless America.

[@paullangley6280]

Pretty much every wealthy nation in the world has socialized medical care. Is it perfect, no it isn’t. Will you get a quick knee transplant in the UK...No. Will you get generally excellent care if you have cancer...Yes. Also certainly in most of the European countries you can supplement your care with private health insurance, often paid by employers. Given that the USA spends in the region of 18% of GDP on healthcare and Uk, France, Germany spend 10-12% of GDP there is clearly something significantly wrong with the US system, given that healthcare outcomes are generally better in Europe. Surely it’s wrong that the wealthiest country in the world (total GDP, not per capita) should see the largest cause of personal bankruptcies to be healthcare expenses? This is of course before we even think about the impact of health insurance on workforce mobility.

[@RonaldHapchwarae]

Most of Europe doesn't have this system. The only other place in Europe with it is Gibraltar, a British territory. Europe uses a insurance model not a nationalised model. Both provide universal free at the point of the delivery health care though

[@borisdefeffel1665]

Just to sum up its success. Ive lived in the UK all my life and ive never met a British human who wants to get rid of the NHS. Its like a child, it drives everyone crazy but is loved so dearly

[@jazzx251]

There are definitely things that could be improved - but you vote Conservative, and what do you expect? The system is terrific, but it needs better funding - I would pay an extra 5% tax to improve it (as long as that tax increase was ring-fenced solely for the NHS).

[@skellurip]

watch the dirty war against nhs, and you will see how they secretly want to get rid of the nhs and now slowly change it into more americanized version of healthcare

[@tall1sobay]

As an American Expat living in London, I am PROUD of the NHS! I can't even imagine going back to the US system. When I needed to have a heart valve repaired, still living in California, even with very good insurance. I still paid $4000 for the procedure. Here it would have all just been done and thats that. My medications are cheap for what I need. And unlike some insurance in the States, I don't need to add additional prescription drug coverage or worry if the drug I need will be covered.

[@escfxp]

The UK NHS must be protected at all costs - it's one of things that makes the UK special.

[@rytisbaranauskas6209]

Or mabye have a referendum on NHSexit?;D

[@danielb7006]

@@rytisbaranauskas6209 That would likely fail spectacularly. Source: yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/07/04/nhs-british-institution-brits-are-second-most-prou

[@Staann]

It is quite common in western countries (except the us)

[@Ace01234k]

It won’t last forever

[@skellurip]

how, did you know that they secretly destroy the nhs and replace it with more americanized version of healthcare

[@elirohg4040]

I still can't understand why Americans don't promote public healthcare. To be a developed country with such a lousy healthcare system where the citizens have to worry about cost is to me mind boggling.

[@CamAlert2]

personally i'm fine with public healthcare if it only covers certain things, like checkups, prescription drugs and first-aid.

[@Pedro-tm6ue]

I suppose the issue is the American right's problems with a public system. Anything would be called "socialist" or "communist" in that context, even if it really isn't xb

[@DripDripDrip69]

The red scare has really done a lot of harm to this country.

[@BoeJlden]

Our healthcare isn’t lousy. It is the best in the world in terms of quality of care. The problem is cost.

[@Pedro-tm6ue]

@@BoeJlden sure the quality of care is great in the US but what is its worth if people can't access it or if it doesn't translate well into the markers of a healthy society, like life expectancy or infant mortality rate?

[@olivia6496]

I endured a horrific injury 3 years ago. I spent the first couple of years in and out of surgery and CT scans and MRI’s, then months and months in rehabilitation and physio therapy learning how to use my legs again. Let’s just say I thank the NHS every single day for their SUBLIME service. I don’t know what financial position my family would be in if I were born in America. I think a debt of around $300,000. But here living in the UK, I’ve had to pay nothing.

[@oliplaysbass]

Basically, Breaking Bad would have been a whole lot different if it was set in the UK

[@danylo.s]

It wouldn't have been.

[@oliplaysbass]

@@danylo.s care to elaborate?

[@RealFemale69]

@@danylo.s I mean Walt did it because he enjoyed the life but he wouldn't have got into it if he wasn't dying

[@Sarcastix7]

"Thatcher centre for freedom" They may as well carry around a neon sign saying we're an American insurance funded lobbying group

[@josephdugdale4150]

You're are not wrong! Corporate shills like that melt are ruining this country

[@MintlyGood]

Named after a witch as well

[@williamatkinson3448]

I was thinking the same thing aswell

[@Isomoar]

Sounds like George Orwell made their name up!

[@troytt777]

🤣🤣

[@Lglover3]

Maybe you’ll see how important a national health service after this pandemic. One thing for certain is that the NHS will be going nowhere after this

[@isthisjustfantasy7557]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 god help any politician who tries to ruin our NHS.

[@Lglover3]

Isthisjustfantasy 75 trump might give it a go right after Boris botches brexit

[@scotsbillhicks]

Bean Hmmm...yeah, a possible scenario, the Brexit end game turned out different from what we promised, (but that’s not our fault), so...we need to get the money from somewhere...

[@lucykinski]

I really hope the nhs gets the support it needs after this

[@emilygilbeyful]

Even Boris has had his eyes well and truly opened to how amazing the NHS is!!!

[@flyingbanana566]

UK citizen: “we don’t pay anything upfront for healthcare.” US citizen: “I’m almost bankrupt from my medical bills but I have freedom.” UK citizen: (speechless)

[@Ed.E]

And that American person forgets that we have the freedom to go private if we want

[@davidevans916]

And they have guns, which is clearly more important 🙄😂

[@tobiah4972]

@@davidevans916 Which have proven to get police to not harass protesters while armed individuals marched alongside them, so yeah, they kinda are.🙄

[@xammendoza667]

NHS helped me a lot. I'm diabetic and have high blood pressure. All my meds are free because of my diabetes. There's a free retinopathy screening every year. Seeing a GP once a month to check my blood sugar and blood pressure is also free. Also every 6 months, having blood tests is free as well. If I live in the US, I'd be living in the streets or having a meter high medical bills every month and would be in severe stress and in a state of depression. Speaking of depression, I have it too. Free meds and free mental health therapy twice a month for six months. All free... Thank you NHS, and to my wifey... She's been a true gem. An ITU nurse who helped COVID patients recover. Stay safe everybody.

[@esclad]

It's not socialist, it's common sense. We all pay into the pot - and we can all use it for free when needed.

[@asahdo]

ESClad that’s pretty much the definition of socialism though: from each according to their means, to each according to their need. The problem is the word “socialism” has been stigmatised and demonised when really a lot of it is common sense, particularly when applied to things like health care

[@esclad]

@@asahdo Socialism stamps-out the will to achieve more and better oneself, it's a system that wants everyone the exact same, no better no worse. The NHS is constantly bettering itself so it is different and not socialist.

[@asahdo]

@@esclad I think you are confusing socialism with communism. It is not an inherent part of socialism to stamp-out the will to achieve more or better oneself nor does it necessarily want everyone the exact same. There are different forms of socialism but the general definition is that the public own the means of production. The NHS is owned by the British people, we all pay towards it from our taxes based on what we can afford to give and we all receive from it based on what we need. That is socialist.

[@alastairp]

Except for the people who don't pay taxes who get to use it, and the people who are forced by threat of prison to pay more than they ever use.

[@robertyianni3623]

Amelia Oxborrow if that’s socialist what’s wrong with it ?

[@rajjgaming5919]

Back when I was 10 I went to the NHS and they treated me very kindly.

[@absentrocket8619]

As a brit this makes me appreciate the NHS more

[@littlemisskittyuk1]

The NHS makes me proud to be British. I can’t imagine having to go to hospital for treatment and having a bill, or having to worry if I can afford to have treatment. We LOVE our NHS.

[@sinneryy8662]

@Laurence Cursaro Why would it? Its supporting people who need serious care through hospitals, and treating people who might have smaller diseases through Surgeries (Not like an actual surgery, basically where you can get checked up on by GP) and even if you dont get sick you arent overpaying, youre paying for people who may need the help and helping pay the NHS Staff, We pay significantly less than the US through healthcare, and we get alot more healthcare than them, despite it being not as accesible over there

[@shelleyphilcox4743]

@Laurence Cursaro No it doesnt. It needs 2% more GDP spent, training of more doctors and nurses and a commitment from them to give a minimum time period to the NHS before going private.

[@user-eh1gc7xo7q]

Sinneryy Just ignore him, he’s commenting on nearly every other comment saying Sinclair things. Just a sad tit looking for attention

[@sd-fz3wn]

@Laurence Cursaro I'm healthy, so everyone else must be.

[@firehazzard8497]

@Laurence Cursaro Uh actually its broken because the same people that are in power keep defunding it until it doesn't work anymore so then we privatise. Staff have constantly been underpaid and keep losing money, as they work overtime for staff shortages. How are they lazy? They are dying for us to live during this pandemic, working 12-14 hour shifts everyday with a few hours sleep, sleeping at the hospital just to make sure they can save as many as possible.

[@dingus4077]

It’s insane to me that labelling something as “socialist” automatically makes it impossible to pass in the US . The UK is more of a centre right country atm but literally not s single MP in parliament would ever say get rid of the NHS. When will Americans get some sense and realise you don’t have to be 100% left or right wing. Take the best of both worlds for the best results ....so simple

[@ethandavies214]

Julian Hoyle I do agree but the conservatives have been trying to sell the nhs for decades all the while it was invented by a Labour Party working class member

[@dingus4077]

Ethan Davies that is just such an American media myth !!! In the UK (where I’m from) the NHS is sacred to the point where if you oppose nhs in anyway the British public will end their political career! Boris Johnson yes there were rumours but there’s no way in hell it would have even been used in negotiations for UK US trade deal

[@andrew300169]

Julian Hoyle It’s not necessarily the front line that Johnson will sell off its agreements on drug pricing, private access, the edges that the public doesn’t see

[@adamarycurtis7016]

Brainwashing at its best

[@andyhemsted4570]

Ethan Davies k up Sir Henry Willink, the Conservative Minister for Health during WW2 who wrote and published a White Paper on the creation of.... The NHS!

[@MooreMoDz]

UK: Health Care USA: H(EA)alth Care

[@Mlo-tn9yr]

America a developed country, love a good joke in a serious topic.

[@pradeep128]

Well no other “developed country” created KZbin, where you are typing this message. So STFU.

[@Mlo-tn9yr]

@@pradeep128 you ever heard of a joke?

[@skuyzy198]

@@pradeep128 USA didn't created youtube either. It was couple of guys, who might've been in any european country too.

[@pradeep128]

@@skuyzy198 well, that wasn’t the case. Europeans love to tout their inventions, so why can’t Americans do the same?

[@Mlo-tn9yr]

@@pradeep128 @skuyzy go fight somewhere else.

[@paulsweeney70]

The NHS isn't Socialist, it's just common sense.

[@alastairp]

In China having an authoritarian state is common sense for those citizens.

[@paulsweeney70]

@@alastairp Ah yes, I see what you think you did there.

[@alastairp]

@@paulsweeney70 ??? Just because the overton window in a given country contains a given idea doesn't mean it's good.

[@LongdownConker]

@@alastairp so no one dying because they can't afford the healthcare isn't a good thing?!

[@alastairp]

@@LongdownConker So no people dying because of worse quality care and waits isn't a good thing?!

[@paulgilson2347]

Sod living in america, sounds awful.

[@MyName-cw4yr]

It's great, say what I like without the fear that the police could come crashing through my door at any second for saying mean words (one guy in Scotland was fined £850 for telling a joke on youtube) that sounds like tyranny to me.

[@fanfeck2844]

My Name , I must admit, we have lost a lot of freedom of speech

[@lizziegoodall7044]

My Name I’m guessing you’re white then lmao

[@oc911]

@@MyName-cw4yr Stop chatting bollocks😂

[@MsColl90]

Laurence Cursaro ridiculous - the video literally went through the metrics and the NHS is cheaper and better. But hey, don’t let facts stand I the way of your opinions.

[@olivercoel7765]

I love the NHS. Every single nurse ive ever been with has been the kindest person ever. its amazing

[@noahdoris6923]

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[@glynnwright1699]

American medical staff are just as kind, want to help their patients just like people in the UK, but they are obliged to work within the constraints imposed on them. I know a few, they are good people who care, but they can't change the US system.

[@j0nnyism]

I have barely used the nhs in my 46 years. But it’s comforting to know that if I do become ill I won’t be worrying about crazy medical bills. Healthcare is not something that should be optional

[@bigdundee12345]

Even if i never need the nhs and pay into it my whole life through tax, I’m still happy in the knowledge that the money is well spent and goes towards helping my fellow countrymen. If i were paying for health insurance, that money is going to a greedy insurance company that will increase my rates as i get older, not cool!

[@corsacs3879]

Big dundee that’s the biggest problem with Americans, they don’t care for everyone else’s welfare. I’m happy to pay into the NHS because it’s an amazing cause, and if I ever need it - it’s there. I’d hate to live in a county knowing that nobody cares about you or anyone.

[@lizlemonwantsitall]

Everyone will eventually the nhs, old age does not come without health changes!

[@rowanmaguire7890]

@Laurence Cursaro investing in the well fear of other peoples health

[@monzorella1]

Facts

[@rowanmaguire7890]

@Laurence Cursaro well to start people don't go bust when they get injured or ill

[@datawasatreacherousandroid6509]

Bernie is ”far left” over there? Oh, Americans are so adorable.

[@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748]

his ideas are based around basic human rights and for some reason ppl still don't want to vote for that? I mean the UK didn't either I just need to stop being surprised people just need to actually start realising who is actually going to make a positive difference and that ain't Biden or trump and what is happening now is a perfect example of that...

[@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748]

if they cannot see that then more innocent people are going to die

[@kingofracism]

Its boomers mostly. They would be warmer to national socialism, but overall they prefer capitalism. Usually to their own detriment.

[@mothermovementa]

Init.

[@stephanweinberger]

@Don Ghiata Bernie is just a social democrat. Over here in Europe he would be considered barely center-left. From an outside perspective the US doesn't even have a real "left" party. The Dems are moderate-right and the Reps right to far right by international standards.

[@masterthieves]

Everyone is covered in the NHS even you're not a citizen or homeless. It's a beautiful invention.

[@Ace01234k]

No a citizen you shouldn’t get it

[@charlesunderwood6334]

@@Ace01234k In theory, yes, but in reality it is more expensive to have systems in place (with all the extra staff costs) to invoice visitors than not. So most of the time guests to the UK are free.

[@bluesky1807]

The NHS is an everyday miracle and am so proud to work for it.

[@electroskates2434]

@Daniel F. what the hell are you?

[@max.1030]

As a Brit I think I speak for us all when I say I love the NHS

[@isthisjustfantasy7557]

🙆‍♀️ absolutely

[@alim2641]

Amen!

[@lucisano]

Yea boii

[@joshbrain418]

Damn right

[@Wrinklemina]

He said about NHS staff not being trained adequately for operations such as cataracts because they all go to private, THIS IS NOT TRUE. I am an Ophthalmics scrub nurse and I have worked for years in 2 NHS trusts. I have assisted in thousands of cataract surgeries and everyone I work with is very well trained in them. Yes, the NHS provide contracts for cataracts for private hospitals but that does not take away the massive numbers of surgeries we carry out EACH day! I have worked in private and a lot of the doctors and nurses who work there are not full time members of staff and are working on a bank shift basis. If anything, the nurses are less experienced in private healthcare as they don’t just do Ophthalmic procedures, they do a wide range of surgical specialities.

[@jamesatkins7592]

I thought he said just that - that the folks that go and work in private health gain less experience for that area

[@ShawFujikawa]

I imagine they might have been scraping a little bit looking for things to criticise about the NHS, to appear fairer. :P

[@alundavies8402]

We are lucky here in England because we have a welfare state and a democratic monarchy a constitutional monarchy

[@mentaldavethefirst]

He wasn't saying there are no experienced people. He said the more the NHS utilises the private sector the harder it becomes to get experienced staff as they don't get to do the operation in the NHS as frequently.

[@Ryan-zb3uz]

Not to mention private companies take less risky patients so are likely to be less trained when it comes to dangerous ones I suppose

[@yellowbuggaming7429]

About 3 years ago I was admitted to hospital with kidney stones and a severe gall bladder infection which required surgery. Didn’t cost me a penny, and at no point was I ever worried about bills or being made homeless due to medical costs. Thank you NHS

[@jasonbeattie4362]

The US has socialised education, socialised army, socialised navy, socialised airforce, socialised police, socialised fire service so what’s the problem with socialised health care

[@procrastinatingotaku]

Our education isn't socialized, or else I wouldn't have to pay $15,000 for instate tuition.

[@jasonbeattie4362]

@@procrastinatingotaku I was referring to the US school system where it is provided free by the government but if you want to pay to go private you can. That is like the UKs health service

[@nomad1944k]

ONE BIG PROBLEM REPUBLICANS.

[@glassstooth]

I’m from the UK and have used the nhs many times over my life. This is the first time I’ve heard it called “socialist” to be honest. It’s a privilege for sure. But also a right.

[@joemcguinness2607]

I couldn’t imagine living in a country where I’d have to worry about being ill because it might bankrupt me. The US is so far behind

[@spencerwilton5831]

Laurence Cursaro What if someone looses their job and therefore insurance coverage? US unemployment has hit 30 million this week- that's a lot of people with potentially no insurance! Are they lazy because they lost their jobs due to the lockdown?

[@themasqueradingcow91]

@@spencerwilton5831 Well obviously they should pull them selves up by their bootstraps! /s It's a farce. Both my parents have had surgery that didn't bankrupt them. My mother had cancer and their focus was on making sure that their young kids understood what was going on, not worrying about gofundme or going bankrupt because of it. Being self employed, mum's insurance probably would have become un-affordable after her diagnosis and checkups extremely costly. I had a check up for a funky mole 'just in case', no upfront cost. Quick referral to hospital and peace of mind.

[@grahvis]

@Laurence Cursaro . I don't think you understand the concept of insurance.

[@Julmaa87]

@Laurence Cursaro You've been in this video's comment section spouting crap all over it. Please go get an education.

[@cliffburridge]

15 years ago, I had chemo followed by a stem cell transplant. I was diagnosed by the NHS and treated start to finish. I had the best care available and came through clean as a whistle. Because I’d paid into the system over the years, I claimed it back by living. Didn’t have to sell my house, didn’t have to worry about my treatment. What’s not to like? Three years of treatment sorted as you go...

[@krisinsaigon]

i'm british and we have the same idea as americans - we have an insurance system, everyone pays into the insurance fund and that money pays for the health care of those who get sick. What we don't have though is people making profit from it. I never understand americans who say they don't want their money to go to pay for other people- that's what an insurance system is. the people whose houses don't burn down are the ones who pay when someone else's house does burn down

[@sadiaislam932]

The NHS is why I’m proud to be British.

[@Blorp_]

I'm sorry

[@sunseeker9581]

What about our music, comedy, our history. Ok scrap the last one 😉

[@garthtomlinson2570]

Forza Juve our history is one of the proudest parts

[@sunseeker9581]

@@garthtomlinson2570 only if you admire slavery, pillaging, and murder. The British empire committed huge attrocities

[@L45456]

Forza Juve most of europe are the same, your ancestors are probably european, so...

[@joannegriffiths1400]

This is a poor film and representation of how fantastic the NHS really is. As an infertile woman I have received endless test, appointments and ivf treatment and all funded. We’re thankful for our NHS!

[@catherinerobilliard7662]

My daughter-in-law is Type 1 diabetic, the NHS give insulin, needles, checkup etc all free. When she became pregnant a pump made sure no harm came to her or her babies. The NHS made me a grandmother.

[@Simonio8]

Yeah, I think they underplayed the nhs here.

[@sw1000xg]

And that I say is abuse of the nhs. Its not life threatening or an emergency. And for me shouldn't be allowed. For that kind of treatment you should pay.

[@catherinerobilliard7662]

@@sw1000xg since when has the NHS only been for emergencies? You're confusing it with dialling 999 emergency, as the NHS also has 111 if you wish to speak to a medical practitioner. The NHS mantra is free healthcare for all at the point of delivery. As for paying taxes, I've paid in for 45 years and it's the only tax I won't quibble to pay extra.

[@damedusa5107]

sw1000xg I think you misunderstand what a health service is. What does that have to do with emergencies only? That really is a stupid comment.

[@martinshillitoe4735]

I’m a Brit and last year was diagnosed with renal cancer after finding a large tumour. Within 4 weeks of discovery I had an operation to remove one of my kidneys. 2 ct scans, 2 nights stay in hospital, surgery to remove a kidney and the tumour, 3 doctor consultations and 28 days worth of blood thinning medication for post op recovery. Total cost to me £0.00. Time from detection to removal - 4 weeks!!! The NHs is amazing it astounds me that America can not provide the same level of care for its citizens

[@airqx2808]

big up martin hope you're doing better

[@peaveyst7]

hi dude. a german here. had a tumor 7 years ago. one day after it was discovered, it was out of my head. it was growing in my earcanal. i also paid nothing. hope you doin good. cancer sux...

[@Bruh-yi8lg]

A big argument to this is that the uk has the “worse health care in Europe” but a counter argument would be “Still better than the US”

[@Luca-bv5ic]

*worst in North-western Europe

[@Luca-bv5ic]

@Ashish Agrawal what? Do you mean "even the worst is great"?

[@andrewyoung749]

So why not argue for the USA to adopt French healthcare? Maybe because comrade sanders doesn't care about healthcare rather he just wants a massive a powerful state. Thus the lesser nhs is the model.

[@daniellastuart3145]

@@Luca-bv5ic that not true

[@lochsidefishing5103]

I guarantee the UK NHS is better than the Serbian Healthcare. So "worst in Europe" is just completely false.

[@femme434]

The NHS is the Pride of the UK esp during this pandemic time 💙

[@isthisjustfantasy7557]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 heroes 💙

[@sumvs5992]

I'd rather eat than have free healthcare, praise to the actual heroes. Lorry drivers, farmers, cashiers, etc.

[@AJ-cv9zf]

@@sumvs5992 I agree with you but why cashiers?

[@catalinacurio]

I can walk into any hospital A&E at any time and be treated with no worries about funding any treatment I need, for example stitches if I cut my finger...

[@OlafoWaffle]

Question are their urgent care clinics that you can go to as well? They sorta fall in between visiting your GP or going to he ER (A&E), they handle cases that aren't serious enough to go to the ER, but needs to looked at sooner than getting into seeing your GP.

[@kouroshtashvishi5031]

Yet another reason why our country it better

[@felixnkrumah3560]

@@kouroshtashvishi5031 saying stuff like that, creates conflict. There's advantages and disadvantages with every country.

[@BradThePitts]

Do you live in a litigious country?

[@sadmancho]

I needed stitches here in the U.S. and had to pay $2,670 for it.

[@marcobranco526]

I was hospitalised for 7 days in a London hospital for severe pneumonia. Transport was sent to my address to take me to the emergency at no cost. Nurses were amazing, i was well fed during my stay, a team of doctors regularly checked on me to make sure everything was ok. And when I was discharged, I was given a bag full with all of my medication. How much do you reckon I had to pay for everything? None, Zero, Nada, £0. We love our NHS, and won’t trade it for anything else. Yes, we all contribute through taxes, but honestly the monthly amount taxed from my pay-check is next to nothing.

[@jazzx251]

Pleased you made it Marco.

[@laurah7337]

Wow, this is fascinating to watch as a Brit. It's true, the nhs is absolutely a national treasure, and it breaks my heart to watch it deteriorate. Hopefully the pandemic's made people realise it's significance. Honestly not many countries can boast of having such a sophisticated system.

[@abbiecolosimo3720]

I’m from the 🇬🇧 and I don’t understand how theRichest country in the world is left so far behind in terms of all the healthcare systems et cetera

[@Theo-bk6qj]

One word, capitalist system. Just like Industrial Revolution in England but at least it not worse than the one in 18th century - about WW1

[@abbiecolosimo3720]

吴子轩 Scotland and wales are actually better than England we charge £9.15 for a prescription charge obviously not for people on long-term meds or contraception and optometry and dentistry is only free until you leave education or have a medical condition such as glucoma

[@tedb3966]

I don’t think the UK has anything similar to Fox News. Fox News, and American conservatism in general, sees anything done in Europe or anywhere else but America as a socialist, tyrannical destroyer of freedom.

[@abbiecolosimo3720]

Crom are you from the USA if so are all the horror stories about people wear bands which say don’t call an ambulance true? And do you get refused treatment if you can’t pay?

[@Theo-bk6qj]

wil edge ok? How about capitalism? Is that better?

[@KopCole]

I’d rather live in a country where if I had an accident or a life threatening disease I’d be cared for and not have to worry about being bankrupt or worse still...left to die. Call it socialised healthcare..call it what you want.

[@hamdi.abshir5957]

@Laurence Cursaro What if u lost ur Job randomly, and u had an accident then ur done for. NHS is for everyone rich or poor .

[@iainansell5930]

@@hamdi.abshir5957 not to mention your insurance might not cover something they deem as your negligence, caused it...

[@nickyjlyons]

As someone who has been hospitalised many times with asthma and countless visits to my doctor for various reasons, it infuriates me when people bad mouth the NHS. There is only one thing wrong, in my opinion, with the NHS and that's waiting times. If you need to see a specialist you'll be waiting months. But, it's free, it's FREE!!! I'm so proud of our NHS and will be forever thankful to each and every nurse, paramedic, doctor and surgeon for what they do. True superheroes

[@dacracking5768]

I absolutely love the NHS, it’s an amazing thing which is underappreciated.

[@torranirwinnw5422]

In the uk even the right would brand people as insane to suggest privatising the healthcare system

[@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748]

tf do you mean when they voted for the ppl that want to do exactly that!!!!! the right are literally trying to do that

[@paulkenny6145]

@@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748 They are literally not

[@liamclarke9527]

@@fkatwigsisthequeenofenglan4748 in the conservative manifesto they are committed to put more money in so who is privatising it ?

[@liamclarke9527]

@Crom so by your logic state schools are privatised as they buy pencils from a private company?

[@davidtrowers1654]

The far right is just rich bigots

[@snakesocks]

I've always found it strange that the US uses the term 'socialised healthcare' as a negative, when the concept of socialised policing or firefighting never seems to concern them. The NHS is far from perfect. Things like obesity, alcoholism & teenage pregnancy put a tremendous strain on it's resources. But when I hear of things like healthcare being the No.1 cause of bankruptcy in the US and insulin costing in excess of $300, I'm glad to have it.

[@RK-bj8ho]

What is medicare policy then ? Does it not pay Americans medical bills ?

[@rickkybobby8118]

How does the UK health care system work? Better than the US one, and pretty bloody amazing when it's not being deliberately mis-managed by the Tories.

[@DarqeDestroyer]

"Thatcher Centre for Freedom" - A name to run away from really fast.

[@frankmitchell3594]

Sounds like the King Herod childcare centre

[@robincampbell6213]

@@frankmitchell3594 great Comment

[@jameswatsonatheistgamer]

Yet. She did a better job than magic grandpa's free Internet package.

[@barryboom717]

@@jameswatsonatheistgamer Were you even around during Thatcher's government?

[@jameswatsonatheistgamer]

@@barryboom717 Yes. She did a bang up job and it annoys the left.

[@alexanderrutland6349]

Bernie isn’t far left, his proposals are moderate by European standards... even right wingers in the UK love the NHS

[@crt1477]

As a veteran I get my health care through the VA, which is very similar to the NHS, and I have never received a bill. I think every American, veteran or not should have this. Medicare for All!!!

[@CityLifeinAmerica]

VA for me gives me a copay of $25.

[@forestpark73]

RedLight GreenArrow Still not bad.

[@CityLifeinAmerica]

General Tso Joe Hayabusa I know, just saying its inaccurate saying there is "no bill at all" I would be totally OK with "VA"for all!

[@forestpark73]

RedLight GreenArrow Yea I understand, I’m a Vet too. I don’t pay anything because of my service connection disability, but it’s a great benefit we’ve paid into. I will say it would be great if it covered all Veterans.

[@chaosXP3RT]

Isn't the VA known for over prescribing addicting medicine and letting it's patients die in the waiting room?

[@davesy6969]

A friend of mine was in a bad motorcycle accident and ended up paralysed from the chest down. He was taken to the nearest accident and emergeny hospital, they saved his life and sent him to the spinal unit at stanmore. They weren't able to get him to walk but after about a year they couldn't do anything more for him so they discharged him. Fortunately for him he was a council tenant and they provided him with a purpose built house, he could claim various benefits so he could pay his way. He had an accident insurance policy that paid him the maximum of £20,000 Neither him or any member of his family are well off and perhaps a few Americans would like to tell me if he would have been better off in the USA?

[@jazzx251]

Silliest question ever - no he wouldn't.

[@bhavun8084]

I’d rather be in uk where I am get an ambulance for free rather than have to die because I can’t afford one

[@Pilot.0101]

The first party to privatise the NHS would never get into power ever again. The NHS is something we hope never to use but will gladly pay for.

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

The Tories are already privatising sections of it. Wake up.

[@hlund73]

@Ashish Agrawal Don't be naive. They may even convince themselves, but capitalism doesn't work like that. It consumes everything for profit. Just as in the film it'll avoid spending on training & research, cherry pick the most profitable - without even mentioning private healthcare we'll find ourselves with US mortality rates for the simple reason illness will always be inversely proportional to profitability.

[@Goady1000]

@@hlund73 it would never be fully private there would be riots

[@rammiel9404]

@@Goady1000 you're right they just do a bit at a time and hope nobody notices. Next up is prescription drugs as it was in their own report leaked during the election.

[@irrelevance3859]

@Ashish Agrawal exactly. Boris himself was in the hospital a few weeks ago fighting covid-19, I doubt he swiped his card before being placed in treatment.