Mao 60s: "You traitor to socialism sleeping with Capitalist America, just start nuclear war already, whats the big deal" Mao 70s: "Hey America, you want to help us against the USSR,?"
@Monkey_SK2 жыл бұрын
This is the bit that is confusing me. How could Mao be giving Russia a hard time over not starting a war, with the capitalist pig dogs, when he then let's Nixon and the US visit China to hang out.
@bathhatingcat86262 жыл бұрын
@@xunqianbaidu6917 the Chinese governmnet stands for nothing. They will adopt any position, befriend any enemy, steal from any ally, harvest the organs of their own people, etc to amass and secure more power. You saw it with mao, you see it today.
@ftwcrazyman2 жыл бұрын
@@Monkey_SK Because at that point in the Cold War (1972), Sino-Soviet relations were bad enough to the point of armed conflict along the border for the US to take advantage of, compared to 1962 when communist solidarity was still strong (the video explains this)
@Monkey_SK2 жыл бұрын
@@ftwcrazyman perhaps you didn't understand the question. Mao accused the USSR of not being proper communists, for not starting a war with the US and trying to Peacefully exist. That's hardline. Yet Mao does the exact same thing years later, where are his hardline ideas then? Did anyone in the USSR say hand on, you're a fraud!
@franzfanz2 жыл бұрын
@@Monkey_SK It's just politics. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. At this point, they both realised that an armed conflict with the West would result in either being crushed in a conventional war or the conflict going nuclear. In either case, they're screwed. So instead of fighting the West, it was better to fight for dominance of the communist world. To do this, Mao accused Khrushchev of not being communist enough, thus other nations should look to Beijing and not Moscow for leadership. By the time of the Kissinger/Nixon detante, it was pretty clear that the results of the confrontation with Moscow were mixed, so why keep up the front? Especially if greater economic advantage, stemming from a thawing with the West, would allow China to build a larger military and, through development grants, influence other communist countries. Remember that most communist countries, that weren't facing direct invasion from the Soviet Union, were happy playing each power off against each other for maximum advantage.
@Quzix422 жыл бұрын
"We are upset that you didn't nuke the US so we will mend relations with the US." Gotta love realpolitik.
@shaider19822 жыл бұрын
Sigh, "It is what it is" never changes.
@lvjinbin28 Жыл бұрын
CCP: if CCCP hooked up with evil USA, then those two superpowers would oppress us in Third World.
@MisterMcbizzo64 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's one thing I don't understand. The Chinese wanted to stick it to the Soviets by...allowing their workers to be exploited by companies from the biggest Capitalist power in the world? 🤔
@robertortiz-wilson1588 Жыл бұрын
Hehehe
@guyguy76342 жыл бұрын
I just like the fact how China condemn the Soviet Union for its peaceful coexistence stance and wanted it to be more confrontational, yet were happy to warm relations with the US in the 1970s if it meant opposing the Soviet Union. Geopolitics is the gift that keeps on giving!
@watchman835 Жыл бұрын
Bait and switch.
@moderneducationalstandard2 жыл бұрын
This is by far one of our favorite historical channels.
@andrewbaker60562 жыл бұрын
I was an extremely ignorant man when it came to soviet culture, this channel has opened my mind to some fascinating videos :)
@donnyboon28962 жыл бұрын
I lived it. Semper Fidelis! 🦅🌎⚓
@ritemolawbks80122 жыл бұрын
Just let me know when you're ready to start the revolution, on behalf of the proletariat, and give the workers ownership of the means of production. I need to know, so I'll have time to escape. I'm part of the yacht-owning class and bourgeoisie capitalist. An elitist like me wouldn't survive a revolt. If there's no bread, let them eat Russian 🍰. Problem solved.
@andrewbaker60562 жыл бұрын
I'd rather die then leave near communism after watching the videos :)
@goobdoober25372 жыл бұрын
There’s a channel called the Ushanka Show by a man named Sergei who grew up in the Soviet Union. He talks about soviet culture a lot if you want to learn more
@DaveSCameron2 жыл бұрын
She
@shine112232 жыл бұрын
Never in a million years I don't understand how this channel is still having less views, the research and dedication makes it fun to watch these videos. He deserves 10 million views already.
@DaveSCameron2 жыл бұрын
Stats are brilliant!!
@ProleCenter2 жыл бұрын
People are getting sick of American propaganda.
@rrai1999 Жыл бұрын
@@ProleCenter uhhuh, guy with soviet iconography as a profile picture. i am certain your bias is just not there
@ProleCenter Жыл бұрын
@Juggylocko It is absolutely there. As you can see, I make no attempt to hide it. You have to think for yourself and make up your own mind what the truth is.
@landongsi Жыл бұрын
What's interesting for you may not be interesting for others
@brokenbridge63162 жыл бұрын
Not the least bit surprised that relationships between countries during the Cold War were exceedingly complex. But this video added a new dimension to that understanding. Nice video.
@Yay4IamCute2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Mao, you need to chill out bro.
@blenderbanana2 жыл бұрын
He wasn't wrong about Russia though. Their interests were not aligned anymore then, than they are today.
@robertduluth89942 жыл бұрын
The wrong side of the split won out in the end
@wjrjbnjd2 жыл бұрын
Have a snickers mao, cause you are not you when your hungry
@DaveSCameron2 жыл бұрын
It was a very backward country regarding economy and industry.
@joeldobbs73962 жыл бұрын
Jesus Mao? If that isn't already a punk band it is now. We will rip off Marilyn Manson songs and play them like ELO.
@robertortiz-wilson15882 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I really enjoy focusing on certain events and topics broken up in a specific time frame rather than huge generalizations that lack details of specific decades and explaining how things developed. Again, thank you so much!
@imtheconstitution11902 жыл бұрын
Mao once told Khrushchev he was willing to sacrifice 400 million Chinese for the USSR to win a nuclear war with the US
@rnklv82812 жыл бұрын
Perhaps ironic, decades later, didn't the United States thru diplomacy (Nixon/Kessinger), help prevent a nuclear war between the Soviet Union and China?
@lalitthapa1012 жыл бұрын
Maybe a video on Cambodia next?
@StalinTheMan0fSteel2 жыл бұрын
BTW, the rift between the USSR and China began during the Korean War, Mao wanted Stalin to launch the final war between Communism and Capitalism.
@na-lm1pk2 жыл бұрын
Where did you hear that?
@StalinTheMan0fSteel2 жыл бұрын
@@na-lm1pk A documentary on the Korean war.
@noahpeng168910 ай бұрын
@@StalinTheMan0fSteel Stalin disliked Mao Zedong from the beginning. Mao Zedong marginalized the Soviet power agents within the CCP, and Stalin had always worried that Mao Zedong would be as difficult to control as Tito (his worries proved to be correct). Stalin preferred Chiang Kai-shek, and the Soviet Union provided far more aid to the KMT than to the CCP.
@StalinTheMan0fSteel10 ай бұрын
@@noahpeng1689 True. Stalin did make a goodwill gesture toward Mao by exposing his own Chinese agent in the Chinese Politburo, who Mao then had arrested and shot.
@JesseJoyce-cj2xg8 ай бұрын
Dzughashvili the man of iron
@dutchvanderlinde50042 жыл бұрын
Love this channel
@alandesouzacruz51242 жыл бұрын
Enjoying another episode in my 25th birthday 🥳🎂
@TheColdWarTV2 жыл бұрын
Many happy returns.
@ritemolawbks80122 жыл бұрын
I hope today's a great day for you. Stay cool because just like in the *Cold War,* it won't take much for climate change to make it *HOT.*
@Seouldrift72 жыл бұрын
Castro was Pro-Soviet while Che was Pro-Mao. I think that there also some armed groups that were communist that were pro-Beijing in Afghanistan and Nicaragua during the 1980's.
@alex48632 жыл бұрын
As someone who doesn’t see the Soviet Union as an antagonist, Mao’s China definitely would have put us in an MAD situation. Either because he was true kool-aid drinker or was purely ignorant of the MAD tensity and just ignored the death consequences.
@williamerazo39212 жыл бұрын
Very ignorant
@marcocolo71512 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! I would love to see a video on Cambodia next
@jamesforreal2 жыл бұрын
I love this video! I never saw the Cold War era this way until today. Thank you!!
@gjdjdtht2 жыл бұрын
Leaders die, regimes change, but the basic needs and desires of people never do. The form of government that best understands this, will remain in power forever.
@Zwickerly22 жыл бұрын
I was going to skip the ad like I usually do but since it isn't another friggin Established Titles ad, I'll humor this one.
@ftffighter2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video guys!! Could you please post a link to Part I in the description by chance? I'm only asking for anyone new, I have no problem looking it up tho! Well worth it!
@sokratesz2 жыл бұрын
Thank you David for another interesting video. Would it be possible to do one on the struggles within NATO during the cold war, for example the exit of France?
@graceneilitz7661 Жыл бұрын
France left the nato unified command, not nato. Greece has also left the nato unified command, but both countries have rejoined.
@Dorimeme1872 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for a video on the Sino-Vietnam War of 1979!
@hellenmoreira99912 ай бұрын
That's why I'm here... couldn't find it tho😢
@R3dH4z32 жыл бұрын
Kissinger the Monster. Fueled by the souls of his countless victims he remains amongst the living.
@Squidman822 жыл бұрын
Did the host just say, "When we last left our HEROS."(1:01)? Interesting words, Comrade David!
@FrankieJames72 жыл бұрын
Mao is a hero and a legend. If he was white, he would be a figure comparable to napoleon
@EduardoEscarez2 жыл бұрын
That reminds me in how my country, Chile, during Pinochet's dictatorship had really good relations with China in part because it wasn't a Soviet satellite like Cuba. Or Allende's administration in the same situation with Francoist Spain 😅
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@Neversa2 жыл бұрын
7:50 My grandpa fought the Chinese at the Kazakh-Chinese border in Jalanaskól in 1969
@songhanshan9843 Жыл бұрын
You folks are Russian slaves even today lmao.
@Mrgunsngear2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@JaykPuten2 жыл бұрын
If only you didn't need to go to war in order to "show/prove" force your political, economic, etc systems obvious superiority Nothing says "we have the best system of (whatever) like invading another country just to force your "superior" systems on another country... And yes this comment extends past the topic this video covers.. However this is a great video that is a good follow up to the original Looking forward to more in-depth videos on the Sino-Soviet split, or the Soviet-Sink split (whatever way whoever reads this prefers)
@StalinTheMan0fSteel2 жыл бұрын
Kissinger ...history's greatest monster? He's like #378 on the list!
@TallGu10432 жыл бұрын
Yeah, definitely not even close.
@Kajpaje2 жыл бұрын
They were fighting over the international spoils of being the true arbiter of Communist thought. Not the petty indulgence of a current dictator.
@bigsarge20852 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@CLipka23732 жыл бұрын
Folks, why are your playlists all backwards? I mean, shouldn't they contain the episodes in chronological order, starting with the oldest one? That would make binge watching your channel so much easier.
@Shinzon232 жыл бұрын
Personally I think I would find it very amusing in an alternate time line to see what happened if the 2 had actually gone to war. Probably be better than in this time line where China still exists and is the same pain in the ass as they have always been
@kayzeaza2 жыл бұрын
I’d rather go back and let Germany and Japan win WW2. No more Russia or China. And no communism either.
@stonefireice60582 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the USSR during Khruszev- Mao spat in the late 60s. And I remember seeing documentaries about 3 Chinese armed excursions into Siberia. Thanks to many military bases around Vladivostok and Sakhalin, Soviets were ready to repel Chinese w/o engagement during the 3rd and the last encounter. Chinese just simply ran.
@Numba0032 жыл бұрын
I very much enjoy these videos about China during the Cold War. I feel like there's a ton I don't know about the subject. Is there anything about Maoism in particular that made the PRC government so against peaceful coexistence? Thank you for any answers, and thank you to the video creators for another excellent episode! God be with you out there everybody! ✝️ :)
@noahpeng168910 ай бұрын
Henry Kissinger summarized Mao Zedong’s diplomatic strategy: provoking a struggle between the Soviet Union and the United States to strive for opportunities for peaceful development for China.
@pdd60absorbed122 жыл бұрын
The Stalin-Tito split resulted in Yugoslavia receiving material aid from the West. Looks to me like the PRC followed suit.
@RoboticDragon2 жыл бұрын
I dont think Henry Kissinger is that bad haha if you guys havent done so yet, maybe do a biography video on him. He was in several rather high profile events.
@eduarddv002 жыл бұрын
I only knew about Damansky Island because it was mentioned in season 4 of Stranger Things
@JosephKeenanisme2 жыл бұрын
I'm decently versed on the Cold War (having lived through a few decades of it), but the channel always has some bits I didn't know. It's always cool to be able to see you guys put out a new video and get excited about learning some new things about a time period I like to study. Thanks to everyone involved (take some of the sponsor money and buy everyone on staff some Timmy's they deserve it).
@TheColdWarTV2 жыл бұрын
thank you and we are glad you are enjoying the videos!
@JosephKeenanisme2 жыл бұрын
@@TheColdWarTV been watching and sharing your vids for 2 or 3 years now. I know the first vid from here I saw was on the war in Korea. Like the War of 1812 it's a war that Americans seem to have forgotten about.
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Things are a lot more complicated in reality it turns out :)
@thomassalois35084 ай бұрын
What do you have personally against Henry?😮
@samwill72592 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why the USSR kept US concessions after the Cuban Crisis a secret, it did nothing to harm them to not get the removal of weapons from Turkey in writing
@nomobobby2 жыл бұрын
I thought the US was the one that wanted the withdrawal of nukes on the low. I'm not even sure basing them there was public knowledge at the time, and JFK probably wanted to keep attention on the "out of our backyard" thing as it made him look good to the public.
@DimensionsofChange2 жыл бұрын
We’ve already made it to this?!?!?
@eermirosemh83392 жыл бұрын
"Not from a Biden"
@jstantongood54742 жыл бұрын
Zh in Zhen Bao pronounced like J in Jenny. en is like "un" in under. Chinese Zh = English "J." The sound the narrator made doesn't exist in Mandarin Chinese.
@ShubhamMishrabro2 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on iran crisis of 1946.
@ritemolawbks80122 жыл бұрын
Have you seen this one? kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnu9c6eKfKuEpqs
@ShubhamMishrabro2 жыл бұрын
@@ritemolawbks8012 ohh yes I forgot
@HellishPestilence2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the view from Moscow
@LargeGanny2 жыл бұрын
Name a more iconic pair than leftists and infighting
@robertduluth89942 жыл бұрын
Centrists and fascists
@robertduluth89942 жыл бұрын
@@xunqianbaidu6917 shut up liberal
@neiloflongbeck57052 жыл бұрын
This week surely you should have said said of red?
@tng20572 жыл бұрын
6:00. You can see Kim Il Sung’s big lump behind his neck already (Late 60s ?). Beijing made no attempt to hide it from the footage.
@rhedosaurus22512 жыл бұрын
That's mainly because of the bitter feud between Mao and Kim. Kim basically blew off Chinese intervention after the Korean War, which still is the case.
@jstantongood54742 жыл бұрын
Zhou En lai. Pronounced like Joe Stalin. Zhou= Joe. Chinese Ou= English O
@davidw.27912 жыл бұрын
🙏🏼
@davidw.27912 жыл бұрын
This is why “Chou”, while not 100% accurate, is a damn sight better than what the video said, sadly.
@dinkydaug30052 жыл бұрын
Nobody cares
@jstantongood54742 жыл бұрын
@@dinkydaug3005 I'd say about a billion people do.
@allones30782 жыл бұрын
Imagine the hits and money you would MAKE if people could only watch your videos in order
@jamespackwood757 Жыл бұрын
I imagine if the Chinese and Soviets had gone all out against each other, the US would have slung material to the Chinese and the Europeans would sling material to the Soviets, but both coordinate to make sure the war lasted as long as possible but neither would win an outright victory.
@scottkrater2131 Жыл бұрын
Since European powers founded NATO to keep the Soviets out of western Europe. I think they'd have been more likely to sit on the side lines and pray the Soviets lost.
@ssglbc1875 Жыл бұрын
@@scottkrater2131 no I think Europeans would take advantage alongside Americans and destroy ussr once and for all with China.
@sleefy234310 ай бұрын
@@scottkrater2131user is now gone And now they are weak af
@hreader2 жыл бұрын
A fascinating video. However I thought the Chinese claim on Siberian territory was much larger than one island in a river and the land immediately around it. I thought in fact that it extended to most or all of the hatched regions on the map at 3:01. Can anyone comment on this?
@TheColdWarTV2 жыл бұрын
Beijing didn't make claims to the land, they only wanted acknowledgement that the land had been obtained by the Russian Empire through unequal means when the Qing Dynasty was at its weakest. What they would have done with that acknowledgement if given is anybody's guess, but at the time, they weren't laying claim to the land.
@mikebaker24362 жыл бұрын
The videos on this channel keep getting better and better while the comment section... well... seems to be doing the opposite of that. 🤣
@mohammedsaysrashid35872 жыл бұрын
Most wonderful explaining ,documentary coverage this suspected politician phenomenon inside ( communism world 🌎)thanks for sharing
@ritemolawbks80122 жыл бұрын
The legendary kissing unibrow @ 2:30.
@beachboy05052 жыл бұрын
Excellent video 📹 The CCP China 🇨🇳 worried USSR and today even Russia 🇷🇺. The Russians realised the Chinese vould destroy the Tran-Siberian Railway 🛤. So the USSR built a new one BAM railway. North of Lake Baikal. Cost the USSR, 30 billion dollars 💵. Most expensive project.
@sleefy234310 ай бұрын
China today is no longer communist Plus Russia got bombed by uk
@aasemahsan2 жыл бұрын
1:00 Propaganda war 2:51 1969 border conflict 7:59 US response 9:23 Supporting opposing factions in Cambodia, Vietnam, Angola, Ethiopia & Somalia etc.
@creatoruser7362 жыл бұрын
History's greatest monster? You're really getting hyperbolic with these things.
@Game_Hero2 жыл бұрын
2:36 I ship it!
@markbanash9212 жыл бұрын
Russia, and its modern form as a rump state of the Soviet Union, has long had a conflicted relationship with the West. This video is wonderful in that it shows that even with countries with which it supposedly shares a great deal of ideology there is still a sense of distrust.
@ssg9offical8 ай бұрын
8:30 😂😂💀
@ChaplainDMK2 жыл бұрын
Noted warmonger Kissinger, beautiful
@user-221i2 жыл бұрын
Henry Kissinger is still alive
@eermirosemh83392 жыл бұрын
No one in the White House gives a fuck about him, if this wasn't the case, they would have followed his advise and not force a war with Russia.
@frankshaffer76452 жыл бұрын
"Henry Kissinger is still alive." Unfortunately. :/
@TheBucketSkill2 жыл бұрын
@@eermirosemh8339 the USSR and Russia are different... one is much smaller and weaker. No war is being forced, they don't want war with NATO for good reason.
@eermirosemh83392 жыл бұрын
@@TheBucketSkill The rapid expansion of NATO in the direction of Russia isn't a act of provocation? Imagine watching a guy with a serious expression and a machete in hand walking towards you and not taking protective measures...
@tcgb3112 жыл бұрын
This reads like a conspiracy theory
@neti_neti_ Жыл бұрын
दोनों एक से बढ़ कर एक , आज अपनों से सावधान।
@firstandlastnames8308 Жыл бұрын
Lmao Mao was not an empathetic man. Don't want to call him dumb but if he actually thought he could win a war against the USSR without nuclear weapons.... LOL
@landongsi Жыл бұрын
Too bad the Republic of China didn't use this chance to deepen their ties with the USSR
@noahpeng168910 ай бұрын
They did. Many years later, the media asked whether it was true that the Soviet Union supported ROC in counterattacking the mainland. Chiang Ching-kuo did not deny it.
@dingdong7610 Жыл бұрын
Let's not forget Afghanistan and the split there
@logwhitley2 жыл бұрын
I would not touch omaze
@williamerazo39212 жыл бұрын
Man Mao was very ignorant
@na-lm1pk2 жыл бұрын
Therefore, the Soviet Union disintegrated, China can still stand
@cocaineminor442011 ай бұрын
@@na-lm1pkthat's because they elected the most powerful leader called xi Jing ping and deng Xiaoping
@roniberahaquartet4772 жыл бұрын
Why USSR never invaded Yugoslavia ?
@geodageo2 жыл бұрын
those who glorifies communism, especially those living in the west, need to see your videos and understand what communism really was. indeed everybody was equal but equal in the dirt
@FrankieJames72 жыл бұрын
Those who glorify england and america need to see only those who are pure white equal. Never forgot, it was capitalism, england, and america that committed the most genocide, the most evil cultures, the most evil people's. Your days as an evil empire, enjoy them while they last
@geodageo2 жыл бұрын
@@FrankieJames7 every expansionist 'empire' did genocides, but remember, USSR and China did it against their own people. And I don't care if capitalism go down, but remeber what happened when white people got mad in the past
@1997lordofdoom2 жыл бұрын
Yes, their economic system was shit, but those who glorify Capitalism are in no position to speak about any other system since Capitalism is equally terrible if not worse than a Communism.
@geodageo2 жыл бұрын
@@1997lordofdoom Capitalism, the true one, with a free market, not the shit it is today, work. What we have today is oligarchy.
@mat37142 жыл бұрын
Algorithm
@davidmcleod60322 жыл бұрын
Noted warmonger? Your bias is apparent.
@georgekingiv81712 жыл бұрын
Your bias is apparent.
@firstandlastnames8308 Жыл бұрын
What war did Mao ever win? LMFAO! Not a great general just at the right place at the right time.
@wolfgang7572 жыл бұрын
No no no. Henry Kissinger was no saint but neither was he a "war monger". Unsubscribing from your channel. I cannot support uncalled for cheap shots and that is all that was.