How China Annexed Tibet - Cold War DOCUMENTARY

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@unifieddynasty
@unifieddynasty Жыл бұрын
Considering no western countries had diplomatic recognition of Tibet as separate from China, it's a rather moot point to say that western countries viewed it as an 'invasion and occupation'.
@Raufi1917
@Raufi1917 Жыл бұрын
Up until now there was no official statement even by the UN that China is "occupying“ Tibet
@rlai2201
@rlai2201 Жыл бұрын
We all must stand against western views and their imperialism mindset, invasion, colonialism, and occupation! We are done with the West!
@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323
@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323 Жыл бұрын
In fact it was a invasion and occupation. Just not technically and it was a landlocked nation that was in the process of independence but got botched by party affiliates in its government and the Chinese seeing a opportunity to quickly Occupy the nation before it got admitted into the UN.
@unifieddynasty
@unifieddynasty Жыл бұрын
@@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323 When zero countries in the world recognized Tibet as separate from China, it was not "in fact" an invasion and occupation. Your username is a sufficient refutation of your own assertion. Who are you? Clearly your words hold less weight than the entirety of the world's diplomacy.
@mikel1338
@mikel1338 Жыл бұрын
If GB didnt recognise Tibet... howd they go and sign agreements with Tibet?
@bigcat9185
@bigcat9185 Жыл бұрын
It is interesting to see Tibet from Western perspective. Hope to see an episode on “How US Annexed Hawaii?”
@charleslizz4007
@charleslizz4007 Жыл бұрын
Same
@huiwei9898
@huiwei9898 Жыл бұрын
Funny. It was history that British Empire agitated Tibet interest group for independence, and Britain fabricated Simla Agreement. Of course, Britain and Tibet local interest group signed on it. It is absurd this video’s author repeatedly mentioned this Simla agreement, as if this were a legal binding document. Simply British Empire just wanted, at that time, to annex Tibet from China, and put it as an autonomous state in a transitional period. End of day, Britain dreamed of merging Tibet into British India. But that is a dream only. Will never happen. In short, I am more than happy to see Scotland, as well as Northern Ireland to break from UK. Should be able to witness this.
@_ben.
@_ben. Жыл бұрын
It happened in the 19th century, so I'm not sure you'd see it on this channel.
@sibaraku2023
@sibaraku2023 Жыл бұрын
and Taxes, and New Mexico, and Califonia. Hope they could all go free one day and back to Mexico.😂😂😂😂😂
@raideepu4
@raideepu4 Жыл бұрын
Texas too
@shatterquartz
@shatterquartz 2 жыл бұрын
Whichever side won the Chinese civil war, Tibet would have been returned to Chinese rule. This was something both the Nationalists and the Communists were in agreeement about (in fact the Communists were less ardently irredentist than the Nationalists, since they at least accepted the independence of Outer Mongolia).
@helloworld0609
@helloworld0609 2 жыл бұрын
The 1950 invasion was a continuation of the civil war between the ROC and PRC.
@Roachh2877
@Roachh2877 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact:- Taiwan still lays claims on large parts of India, Nepal and Bhutan.
@tym7267
@tym7267 2 жыл бұрын
@@Roachh2877 more like ROC, which governs/occupies Taiwan(depending on your political stance), claims on large parts of India, Nepal and Bhutan
@navinkumarpk86
@navinkumarpk86 2 жыл бұрын
They had no choice in the matter on Outer Mongolia - anything else would have seen Mao's gang smashed by Stalin
@riverman6462
@riverman6462 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason the CCP was less irredentist is because Mongolia at the time was ruled by a Soviet Communist puppet. The ROC saw Soviet influence in Mongolia as an expansion into rightful Chinese territories. Sometimes it's important to notice history from the historical lens of their times. I am willing to bet that Mao would've tried to claim or even expand into Outer Mongolia , had it was the Russian Empire that installed a puppet there.
@joshuayao6236
@joshuayao6236 Жыл бұрын
When Sun Yixian established Republic China, is also called 5 ethnicitis Chinese Republic: Han, Manchurian, Mongolian, Hui, Zang(Tibet),
@snhjhkvd
@snhjhkvd 2 жыл бұрын
2:38 That's not Empress Longyu, that's Empress Cixi who died couple years prior to 1912.
@lightsleeper.
@lightsleeper. 2 жыл бұрын
I bet you’re fun at parties
@m136dalie
@m136dalie 2 жыл бұрын
@@lightsleeper. It's a relevant observation
@lordlee6473
@lordlee6473 2 жыл бұрын
@@lightsleeper. huh?
@klumzyee
@klumzyee 2 жыл бұрын
@@lightsleeper. is the type of human who watches a historical documentary but opposes accuracy
@joelsullivan1248
@joelsullivan1248 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was Jackie Chan
@coryplum5375
@coryplum5375 2 жыл бұрын
A interesting fact: the 14th Dalai Lama is ethnic Tibetan, but his hometown is Qinghai province. He became the 14th Dalai Lama was under ROC government's gser-bum-skrug-pa rule which was announced by Qianlong Emperor in 1700s to handle the reincarnation system of Dalai Lama.
@MARKINAU8
@MARKINAU8 2 жыл бұрын
Qinghai and partial Sichuan are pan-tibetan region, so a Qinghaibron Dalai is still considered Tibetan. But yes reincarnated Lama just a play
@coryplum5375
@coryplum5375 2 жыл бұрын
@@MARKINAU8 But those region never under Dalai Lama's government, in fact, even today's Tibet region was divided by two parts in old time and Dalai Lama controlled the eastern part, the western part was Panchen Lama in charge. By the way, the 10th Panchen Lama was born in Qinghai province too(100 km away from 14th Dalai Lama's birth place). And he didn't involved the rebellion of Dalai group. He became Vice chairman of the CPPCC National Committee (similar level as vice premier) twice, and died with cardiac disease in 1989.
@weishi9804
@weishi9804 2 жыл бұрын
@@MARKINAU8 Qinghai was ruled by its Muslim population then.
@kb.e3762
@kb.e3762 Жыл бұрын
@@weishi9804 the hui population came in to Qinghai(Amdo) from Shaanxi and Ningxia sent by the Qing emperor in the 18th century. They were fighting from late 1700's even into the warlord period after the breakdown of Qing empire in the early 1900's....
@consp51
@consp51 Жыл бұрын
There are other high levels of Tibetan monks. Dalai Lama is ranked 3rd. There are 3 more branches.
@jlvfr
@jlvfr 2 жыл бұрын
On the UK's stance: don't forget they were also worried about Hong Kong. Some feared that any adverse reaction from the UK, agaisnt China, might cause an invasion/anexation of Hong Kong...
@jlvfr
@jlvfr 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragosstanciu9866 it had huge political and social significance, as a bastion of the Empire.
@Doochos
@Doochos 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragosstanciu9866 trade. it gave them access to China and beyond.
@xiaoka
@xiaoka 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragosstanciu9866 by 1951 less valuable than it was before or would be later… but still valuable.
@helloworld0609
@helloworld0609 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragosstanciu9866 Opium wars.
@jlvfr
@jlvfr 2 жыл бұрын
@@Doochos this too.
@aasemahsan
@aasemahsan 2 жыл бұрын
1:51 Fall of the Qing dynasty following revolts led by Sun Yat Sen 2:41 Sentiments in Tibet & Simla convention 4:51 Events following CCP's victory in Chinese Civil War 5:39 Negotiations 7:03 Battle of Chamdo (China attacks Tibet) 11:21 Tibet forced back to the negotiation table Use of divination 13:12 Tibet's plea to UN 14:54 Further negotiations & the acceptance of a 17 point agreement by the Dalai Lama 17:29 Tibetan rebellion & consequences
@dl2415
@dl2415 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@mewscathayen6818
@mewscathayen6818 2 жыл бұрын
It's a Territory of China and has an English name just like Canton .not an independent country since the Qin dynasty of China, The ROC is busied with civil war &&World ii&& a new civil war until the 1950th. And Dalai isn't the only Buddhist least of Tibet,5 million?. the west doesn't understand the Chinese civil war logic which lasted two thousand years that's why many Chinese people don't like them, and both fire at their boats when they want to split china with RPC and ROC by the Yangzi River, intervals other Country's internal affairs. I'm shocked it declared to be a document channel, neglecting many things with no respect and breed traitors is easy but this will help increase Chinese nationalism. and then you nuke them out and declared the Chinese start world war to the whole world? First, the Qing dynasty of the Chinese is the Chinese then The ROC is the Chinese, now ROC is not Chinese, Obviously the Cantonese is not Chinese too in the future. thanks to god's people, they just need a logic to cover their unti_mankind crime invasion of India of America.
@willkim4798
@willkim4798 2 жыл бұрын
China does not recognize it, just as Czechoslovakia does not recognize the Munich agreement Because it was only signed by the representatives of Britain and Tibet
@ArnoldTeras
@ArnoldTeras 2 жыл бұрын
@@willkim4798 But China did not control that territory functionally for many decades...which means that its territorial claims under MODERN international law are tenuous at best.
@mewscathayen6818
@mewscathayen6818 2 жыл бұрын
@ I'm not like CCP ,They looks more and more like TMD partywhich they revoluted , one hundred years ago, and now it's in Taiwan
@fr9714
@fr9714 Жыл бұрын
Finally an unbiased video which actually presented facts instead of spin and bias.
@patrickdegenaar9495
@patrickdegenaar9495 Жыл бұрын
Slight correction: initial dominance came in the 12th century when both china and Tibet were controlled by the Mongols (Yuam dynasty)
@IbhrahimBishara
@IbhrahimBishara Жыл бұрын
China has no true claim on Tibet and out of Tibets history which goes back (in terms of people living their as Tibetans) To likely 10, 000 or more years but in "proper" history it goes back for at least 2300 years or even longer depending on various sources but is at least 2300 years (likely longer) Out of Tibets very ancient history of course its had skirmishes invasions and it itself invaded other empires , countries etc (including the Tang dynasty of china But out of Tibets 1000s of years of history only 2 times is their any argument that it was occupied "by china" (pre ccp) One was as you said the Yuan dynasty which absolutely was a foreign ruler over china. Look at the mongol empire map and yuan dynasty was literally just one province (area) of its empire and was ruled by rulers such as Kubla khan and relatives /ancestors and yes it took on court system of china (as it invaded and took it!!) and it took on some aspects of china culture but it was absolutely a foreign ruler and part of the wider mongol empire so absolutely in no way , shape or form can they sue the excuse of the yuan dynasty (not to mention the yuan didnt even really properly fully rule over Tibet in the first place and was a priest patron relationship (even prior to the yuan mongols had some influence in Tibet and vice versa) And even if it was a fully han Chinese empire and even if it did invade and occupy Tibet for 100/150 Years that is no way enough. Then after that was the Han ming who had very little to do with Tibet besides trade and maybe some diplomacy etc and after was again a Non han dynasty from the Manchuria the Jurchen ethnic people or the Manchu Qing dynasty which also was seen as foreign invaders and even more then then mongols took on aspects of the predominant majority han culture but if you read any history you will see much of the han were Not happy being ruled by what they seen as "people from the steppes" and foreign invaders and even so the fact the Manchu Qing dynasty actually ruled over Tibet is also up for debate at best as during that time Tibet seemed to be doing most things itself with almost no Chinese or even Manchurian in Tibet and tibetans making there own decisions for the m most part so maybe like a protectorate state of Qing. Anyway lets just say that both the yuan mongol empire and the Manchu Qing dynasty werent foreign dominators of china (and sorry to say to the Chinese this absolutely 100% must be taken into consideration as whether they can claim Tibet especially in regards to the yuan and even the qing) Anyway lets say that the yuan and Qing were fully han dynasties and lets say both took fully over tibet and ruled tibet (even under those circumstances wouldn't be a claim on Tibet as Tibets history goes back at least 2300 years and you can not say bcos they were invaded and occupied a few times for a few hundred years out of 1000s of years of history with 2 diff dynasties who didnt even rule side by side of each other that even that is a claim that Tibet belongs to china and they know this (and that is even if it wasnt the mongol empire extentsion which ruled over china and Qing who also ruled over china and both didnt even fully rule over Tibet..lets face it Patrick the Chinese have no real historic claims at all whatsoever to any of Tibet (besides from maybe some border regions) many countries have had foreign influence and for much longer then Tibet but for the overwhelming majority of Tibets history it wants under any rule let alone chinas rule ..they know it , we know it , we all know it ..Tashi delek , Tujey che , Böd Gyalo ..and I think this guy video is from a pro china one ..Tibet is occupied by China and almost no Chinese lived in Tibet pre 1950 (except in some border regions) Free Tibet
@snowlee-ml7rr
@snowlee-ml7rr 8 ай бұрын
@@IbhrahimBishara False information. You are a historical nihilist. I guess you are an Indian. According to your logic, India has no history. Because they are all a history of slavery caused by alien invasions! India has a glorious history of being enslaved by Alexander the Great, Persians, Arabs, Turks, Mongols, Portuguese and British.
@Jindinhackerhelp
@Jindinhackerhelp 5 ай бұрын
​@@IbhrahimBisharaby your logic india should break up.
@basichistory
@basichistory 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a follow up episode on Tibet? I found this very informative.
@bitterballs356
@bitterballs356 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they were liberated from dalai lama who skinned villagers
@tenzingyuthok8078
@tenzingyuthok8078 2 жыл бұрын
@@bitterballs356 why would you say something like that?
@tho_norlha
@tho_norlha 2 жыл бұрын
@@bitterballs356 lol you are imprisoned by ignorance, I pity you. 99.9% of Tibetans have full faith in his Holiness the Dalaï Lama
@ChrisHilgenberg
@ChrisHilgenberg Жыл бұрын
@@bitterballs356 why did you fall into the Chinese propaganda stance that the Tibetans were savages so they needed to be modernized and civilized? You do realize shit like this is Chinese bullshit right?
@PsycoCheese07
@PsycoCheese07 Жыл бұрын
@@tenzingyuthok8078 Dalai Llama is a CIA backed pedo who ruled over a brutally oppressive feudal government before it was liberated by the PRC
@Wustenfuchs109
@Wustenfuchs109 2 жыл бұрын
Like most things in history, this one is gray. PRC was anything but mild and friendly to Tibet and its population, yet, at the same time, they did develop the region quite a bit and ended one of the last medieval-style feudal serfdom domains in the world. They destroyed hundreds (if not thousands) of ancient Tibetan monasteries, yet they also refurbished many and provided funds for hundreds that were in disrepair and decades (sometimes centuries) of neglect to be restored and protected. They fought hard against Tibetan theocracy, yes, but consider that the Tibet and its culture we know in the world today is actually the one we accessed after the Chinese civil war. Tibet we mostly know and love is the one brought to us by PRC... that we say destroyed their culture and identity. And, as people have stated, Tibet wasn't actually an independent country at that time, at least no one except Mongolia recognized it as such (iirc). Similar to Abkhazia today. So when PRC came in the 1950's, they were, in legal terms, reasserting the control of the central government over a breakaway province. Yet, Tibet proclaimed independence, but no one considered it as an independent state. To the world, it was just another rebellious province of Republic of China after the fall of Qing empire. No one cared then... why care now? Except on the ideological basis, because the west hates anything that has socialist or communist in its name. Neither Qing nor RoC were any milder of friendlier towards Tibet, yet we never see them in the same light as PRC. That's hypocrisy on our part. Long story short, this is one of the countless examples where history is not black and white and when people arguing a certain point are both right and wrong at the same time. So in the end, it becomes a subjective thing - which is not something you should be doing when something supposedly scientific and factual should be discussed. The best we can do is to simply tell EVERYTHING that happened and leave it at that, refraining from moral (subjective) judgement. Just present the facts and leave it at that.
@Wustenfuchs109
@Wustenfuchs109 2 жыл бұрын
@@sosoable Oh, you think Chinese did not do some of their own slaughtering at the same time? Really, how do you think China got that big? :) Chinese history is full of mass slaughter and exterminations, unfortunately.
@herondesign4507
@herondesign4507 2 жыл бұрын
This is a documentary filmed by the United States during World War II. Please check the map of China in the 2.30-second video to see if Tibet is within the territory of China. Your ability to lie is disgusting kzbin.info/www/bejne/opazaKeNbsiDa80
@walhdamaskus2408
@walhdamaskus2408 Жыл бұрын
Thats exactly. This vlogger is apart of CIA funded project to blackpaint china. Hope Hawaiji and many US occupied region/states will gain back their independency in future.
@iamafishonland
@iamafishonland Жыл бұрын
They destroyed majority of the monasteries and used the destroyed religious artifacts to build roads. They only refurbished monasteries once they learned the international interest in tourism in Tibet. You said this isn’t black and white and yet continued to spew what the CCP always says.
@davidz7858
@davidz7858 4 ай бұрын
Well say. The video is full of lies and fabrication of history.
@hankhill6707
@hankhill6707 Жыл бұрын
I have to say that the thumbnail map of "Tibet" is probably one of most bizarre and inaccurate depictions I've seen of that region. I'm not sure you you randomly have Tibet basically possess the entirety of Qinghai province, and bits of Gansu, Yunnan, Sichuan, Xinjiang as well for no apparent reason. It's like if you wanted to make a map of Ohio but included random parts of Pennsylvania, the entire southern part of Michigan, and part of Illinois and Indiana. Even the Tibetan state that existed briefly in the early 20th century didn't include those borders, it basically just comprised of the current Tibetan autonomous region in China borderwise.
@Sir_Squirrel_TheIV
@Sir_Squirrel_TheIV Жыл бұрын
The map was of the entire Tibetan plateau. Fairly common if you look up “China broken up” or “independant tibet”
@hankhill6707
@hankhill6707 Жыл бұрын
@@Sir_Squirrel_TheIV it's fairly obvious this map represents Tibet as a political entity, not the geographic Tibetan plateau. Otherwise they could include an even larger part of Xinjiang if so
@oliet9947
@oliet9947 Жыл бұрын
It’s a map of the Tibetan cultural-linguistic area - ‘Greater Tibet’ (which is why it is projected as the area for an independent Tibet). Sizeable parts of the provinces neighbouring Tibet are or were demographically dominated by Tibetans. I have spent a whole trip travelling around the Tibetan areas of Sichuan province for example.
@hankhill6707
@hankhill6707 Жыл бұрын
@@oliet9947 that's like including Singapore or Vancouver as part of China because large numbers of people of Chinese heritage live there, the thumbnail most likely denotes the political entity of Tibet considering they are using its flag
@panarchy9450
@panarchy9450 Жыл бұрын
@@hankhill6707 When he says that he's talking about how there was once a MAJORITY of Tibetans there. The Chinese are NOT THE MAJORITY in Singapore and Vancouver. Your just trying to find a reason to hate the video.
@colin8696908
@colin8696908 Жыл бұрын
I wrote a paper on Tibet years ago when I was in college, one thing I remember is that prior to the Chinese invasion about 50% of the land was actually owned by the monasteries. So it was inevitable that the Chinese government would have a lot of friction with Buddhism.
@pettahify
@pettahify Жыл бұрын
The same type of wealth and land transfer from religious ownership to secular happened in protestant countries hundreds of years ago. It's not weird, it's logical. Secular ownership typically encourages innovation and efficiency and thus more than religious ownership. This can be seen throughout history.
@weigao9430
@weigao9430 Жыл бұрын
Surprised by your interest in Tibet. But I don't think it's a conflict between the Communist Party and Buddhism because the Communist Party doesn't want to destroy the Dalai Lama. but wants an agricultural revolution that is a class struggle
@charleschoy2327
@charleschoy2327 Жыл бұрын
before 1950, 95% of Tibetans were serfs of the Lamas. A few Lamas and rich landlords owns everything.
@DK-yz9xk
@DK-yz9xk Жыл бұрын
Smart man, do some research Tibet was ruled by the noble caste and the monks led by the “divine Dalai Lama” mind you the Dalai Lama was selected by the nobles 😂 that’s how they reincarnated. Anyway back in the serf day, the monks and nobles went mad, the way the punished their serfs was worse than demons, including skinning baby’s from the bottom half, using seed bones as musical instruments, and using skins to write sutras 😂. Ask the Dalai Lama what happens to the serfs when they get back in power? These faction rebelled against the Chinese gov, and the Chinese liberated the serfs. Go to Tibet and see the musuems, you will be shocked and disgusted at how they twisted Buddhas philosophy. Disgusting demons
@yudogcome5901
@yudogcome5901 Жыл бұрын
If you have heard of the atrocities committed by Tibetan slave owners and the horrific religious ceremonies, you will feel that the black slaves who grew cotton in the United States in the 19th century were all happy.
@GhostCountries
@GhostCountries 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video! And a topic unfortunately forgotten by too many nowadays
@skeetrix5577
@skeetrix5577 2 жыл бұрын
everyday forgets everything. nobody cares how our pretender in chief lost Afghanistan and 13 marine lives less than a year ago. people just want their Instagrams and newest tech very few give history, even recent history a second thought
@GhostCountries
@GhostCountries 2 жыл бұрын
@@skeetrix5577 Unfortunately I think there is some truth to this. At least for many people
@pagodebregaeforro2803
@pagodebregaeforro2803 2 жыл бұрын
The imperialistc western powers were just butthurt that they couldn't divide the region anymore, like a pizza, like they did to China in the Boxers and Opium wars. . So, China's payback and protection time. Analyzing what they've been thru I don't blame them. Did the americans cared about indigenous ppl when they went west!? Did they cared about mexicans when they went south?! No, they took by force and kept spreading their capitalistic colonialism all over Latin America making many banana wars.. So, americans and western ppl cant talk too much as innocents about this tibet-china topic. Dont be hypocritical. If they want something to be undone they should do on the lands they took first. Of course there were tibetans backed up by CIA, they dont waste time and meddle into every corner of the world, imagine if it was the other way around...
@FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem 2 жыл бұрын
and when is recalled is justified with the worst imperialist apologetic tone
@hug4229
@hug4229 2 жыл бұрын
What’s forgotten is how terrible the Dalai Lama was and is. Tibet is better off with China than with him.
@TheNobleFive
@TheNobleFive Жыл бұрын
A lot of comments here are dedicated to this "what about the west" angle but I always thought that was strange. As someone in the US I'm well aware of what the west has done to expand its power through colonialism and other acts, and almost everyone I know in person is aware as well. Ironically, that makes me all the more familiar with this kind of deflection, where instead of giving an actual assessment of what they saw or felt in the lesson, people attempt to deflect to things other nations have done instead. The whole world has some "unfair", inhumane, and brutal series of events that has led it to the present. Saying "what about x country" is a bit pointless.
@ruifenghuang1029
@ruifenghuang1029 Жыл бұрын
I suppose the "whataboutism" came about because non-Western people find that a Western person making such criticism is hypocritical, given the history of Western nations.
@ronvara2929
@ronvara2929 Жыл бұрын
the difference is: Tibet was part of China since 1700. so it was more like a separatists movement. a good comparison would be the US civil war. would you say the north invaded and annexed the south when they wanted to be an independent country?
@theuncomfortabletruth8348
@theuncomfortabletruth8348 Жыл бұрын
It is not about whataboutism. It is about justice. Germany faced justice. Japan faced justice in the form of 2 nuclear detonation. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Cuba and many more are still waiting for justice to be serve. Instead the criminals are deflecting their own crime to avoid justice.
@mrmr446
@mrmr446 2 жыл бұрын
Strategically only the Indian armed forces had any ability to intervene but would still have been at a disadvantage to the Chinese logistically and there was no appetite for war with its' most powerful neighbour. The independence of Tibet lasted less than a century and was due to internal problems within China.
@armchairwarrior963
@armchairwarrior963 2 жыл бұрын
Not all of Tibet. Only Dali Lama parts. There is a Panchen Lama. His lands are not Dali Lama's. Tibet is not a nation, but a feudal state. With Dual Lama's. It's like having Two Popes.
@rumrunner8019
@rumrunner8019 2 жыл бұрын
@@armchairwarrior963 It depended on when and where. Tibet was run by various kings and religious authorities, but local leaders always had the most say.
@rumrunner8019
@rumrunner8019 2 жыл бұрын
Tibet was independent for most of its history. It was ruled by Yuan, the Mongol dynasty that also ruled China, but it was never ruled by China directly until the invasion. Before that Tibet was just a vassal state that paid tribute to China but that was about it.
@TURBOBLU-fx6mn
@TURBOBLU-fx6mn 2 жыл бұрын
@@oceanwave4502 hello CCP bot
@Jacob-nc1sb
@Jacob-nc1sb 2 жыл бұрын
@@oceanwave4502 ccp bot detected
@patrickdegenaar9495
@patrickdegenaar9495 Жыл бұрын
Tibet and Scotland have a very similar history - both came under the dominance of a much more powerful neughbour from the 12th century. Both had periods of independence and periods of subservience/unification since then.
@dr.woozie7500
@dr.woozie7500 Жыл бұрын
The Scottish didn’t have 98% of its population as serfs in 1959. Scotland doesn’t take human skins and make them into books and lamps. Tibet before annexation was a 17th century monarchical backwater.
@patrickdegenaar9495
@patrickdegenaar9495 Жыл бұрын
@@dr.woozie7500 Excellent points! Fully agree! Scotland was a lot more developed from the industrial revolution onwards compared to Tibet.
@boblim5530
@boblim5530 Жыл бұрын
So shall the global sent volunteers to Scotland to declare independence and break away from UK. Hope to CIA may help as UK no more rule by whites but by an Indian whose roots lead to UK colony India. What is happening to white supremacists? KKK especially from USA?.no offence to Indians,I am not directing at you. I have good friends and brothers from India and Malaysia.
@culisteven4754
@culisteven4754 Жыл бұрын
@@dr.woozie7500 that is why he used the phrase "very similar" not "exactly the same"
@RaginYak
@RaginYak Жыл бұрын
​@@patrickdegenaar9495Fully agree? You gotta be kidding me Tibet may not be developed but it masses were were not 'serfs' as Chinese claim to be.
@JosePerez-bd1ms
@JosePerez-bd1ms Жыл бұрын
China cannot invade Tibet because a country cannot invade its own territory, the Tibetan Empire disappeared about 1,200 years ago, and Tibet has been a Chinese province since 700 years. Tibet has never been independent, has never been recognized by any country or had embassies anywhere. Formally, the highest authority in Tibet were the Chinese emperors who collected taxes and appointed officials in charge of collecting them, but the religious authorities had a lot of influence. In 1791 the Gurkas invaded Tibet and were repulsed thanks to the intervention of the Chinese army. The best proof that Tibet is Chinese territory is that after the triumph of the Chinese Revolution, the Dalai Lama, as a religious leader, was offered one of the vice-presidencies of the Chinese State, and as such he attended several sessions. The subsequent conflict was economic rather than cultural or religious. Shortly after the triumph of its revolution, China carried out a land reform in Tibet to allocate land to poor peasants, which affected the economic and political power of the priestly caste and aristocracy, which owned the most land. This conflict was used by the US as part of the cold war, in its confrontation with China. According to statements by the US State Department in the early 1950s: «Tibet becomes a strategically and ideologically important area. Since the independence of Tibet can serve as a fight against communism, it is in our interest to recognize it as an independent rather than an integral part of China." And he adds: «The situation changes if a government in exile is created. In this case, our interest will be to support the independence of Tibet without recognizing it. The recognition of the independence of Tibet is not the really important issue. It is about our attitude towards China.” The Dalai Lama is a confused character and full of contradictions. Not long ago he declared himself a Marxist, which put the American specialists in advertising warfare who deal with this issue in a very uncomfortable position. ---- expansion.mx/mundo/2011/06/14/soy-marxista-dice-el-dalai-lama-y-detona-la-sorpresa-de-su-auditorio
@ricksmithguitar
@ricksmithguitar Жыл бұрын
You need to do some research on exactly what the various dynasties of Chinas policies towards Tibet were and whether Tibet acknowledged the claims. In fact they did not. So if I publish a paper that says the car parked outside my house is mine when in fact it is not, does the act of publication make the car mine? The sources of your information only cite Chinese sources because they are Chinese scholars who cannot go against the government that funds them.
@JosePerez-bd1ms
@JosePerez-bd1ms Жыл бұрын
@@ricksmithguitar 700 years as a Chinese province is long enough for it to be considered Chinese territory, the Yankees stole half of its territory from Mexico a little over a century ago and they consider those states as their own. I have searched without success for information on Tibetan rebellions against Chinese rule, if you find something please send it to me. Since China's economic downturn threatens US hegemony, the US has launched its powerful advertising media against China. The US attacks China by all means, Hong Kong, China Sea, Covid, Uyghurs, the balloons, Tibet, whatever, but all these attacks are suspiciously coincidental with the commercial conflict that the US has with China. Rather with the trade war that the US is losing against China. Fortunately the US is an empire in decline.
@HuskyDawg
@HuskyDawg Жыл бұрын
@@ricksmithguitar Yeah, tell that to the native americans. Flush ur own faeces first before lecturing others on sanitation.
@abcdedfg8340
@abcdedfg8340 Жыл бұрын
If you are paid, can you please go away. This is a historical channel. Not political. Go spam CNN with your paid garbage. Just my opinion.
@iamafishonland
@iamafishonland Жыл бұрын
@@HuskyDawgwhat does native Americans have to do with this discussion?
@magellantv
@magellantv 2 жыл бұрын
This was such an informative and phenomenally well done video!
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 2 жыл бұрын
wow, I didn't knew MagellanTV had a youtube channel. And thanks for supporting history channels.
@magellantv
@magellantv 2 жыл бұрын
@@Game_Hero History is so important - it's our pleasure!
@lightsleeper.
@lightsleeper. 2 жыл бұрын
SHUT UP
@lightsleeper.
@lightsleeper. 2 жыл бұрын
@@Game_Hero shut up
@周军-i4w
@周军-i4w Жыл бұрын
According to the logic of Westerners, there is no country or region that should not be independent. The United States is a new country established by European pirates who exterminated the aborigines and invaded their land. Scotland and Northern Ireland in the United Kingdom were first slaughtered by the Anglo-Saxons through war and then colonized for a long time.
@vonniofdoom5590
@vonniofdoom5590 Жыл бұрын
Tibetans aren’t Han Chinese they don’t even speak the Chinese language so they are an autonomous region
@pia2221
@pia2221 3 ай бұрын
They are taught Chinese in school.
@rosswebster7877
@rosswebster7877 2 жыл бұрын
Well done Cold War Team! I’ve been waiting for a Tibet video for a while now and you did not disappoint! Fun fact: CIA backed Tibetan guerrillas were trained at Fort Hale on the outskirts of Leadville in my home state of Colorado where the famed 10th Mountain Division of WWII was trained. I hope you’ll check back in on Tibet in a future video!
@jasonjean2901
@jasonjean2901 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, according to declassified CIA documents, from 1957-1962, the CIA airdropped 20 teams of trained terrorists from Fort Hale into Tibet. Of all these teams, 19 of them were all captured or killed within two weeks. The one remaining team managed to evade the PLA for two years before simply fleeing Tibet, having done nothing other than run from the PLA troops the entire time. What is fascinating about this history is that, it simply could not have been accomplished without Tibetans themselves being extremely hostile to these terrorists and working with the PLA to capture or kill them. They were obviously unable to get any assistance from the Tibetans living in Tibet, which tells you a lot about what the Tibetans who actually live in Tibet think about U.S. attempts to destabilize their homeland.
@nietzscheanpeoplespower6078
@nietzscheanpeoplespower6078 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonjean2901 True. The narrative of the Cold War Team and its viewers are utterly devoid of the concept of class struggle being biased towards its western side of the ideological concept. They make it so there is no distinction between the oppressed peasantry of Tibet that supported the PLA and the theocratic Budhists elite that are used paradoxically by the CIA as a justification to fight against a revolutionary liberation army of a then anti imperialist nation. Its a well made video but the bias is to much as if the Cold War was still present.
@alexlo7708
@alexlo7708 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonjean2901 My auntie who married to son of a brass HongKong police who colluding in heroin drug trafficking in CIA circle from Thailand to HK and then distributed to Europe and US. Her father in law also was helped by CIA fledding to Colorado change his name and biography evaded the Brit newly set up ICAC cracked down on those big event police corruption in HK then.
@lordlee6473
@lordlee6473 2 жыл бұрын
CIA is one of the biggest criminal organizations out there. It’s not Fort Hale, it’s Camp Hale. Most of Tibetan refugees live in Boulder CO.
@sublimefermion2205
@sublimefermion2205 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonjean2901 Only terrorist is Mao and CCP. Anyone who follows them should thrown in lava and forfeit their right to live.
@InferKnow
@InferKnow 2 жыл бұрын
Love this coverage on Tibet, I’d like to suggest also covering the other Indo-Pakistan wars as they aren’t covered much elsewhere and would be interesting to see.
@klumzyee
@klumzyee 2 жыл бұрын
they already have a video on it
@InferKnow
@InferKnow 2 жыл бұрын
@@klumzyee There we’re multiple I thought.
@EvansdiAl
@EvansdiAl 2 жыл бұрын
@@InferKnow were*
@InferKnow
@InferKnow 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvansdiAl Thank you for fixing my grammar good sir, I’m sure it wasn’t intended to be a smartA remark
@EvansdiAl
@EvansdiAl 2 жыл бұрын
@@InferKnow not at all, you are a fellow internet gentleman, and those who correct grammar as part of denigrating or argument are just ad hominems
@CannibaLouiST
@CannibaLouiST 2 жыл бұрын
would be interesting if one day someone make a cultural revolution channel and make it under the format just like the WW1 and WW2 channels. that's ten years though
@kidd32888
@kidd32888 2 жыл бұрын
Hell on earth
@TheCimbrianBull
@TheCimbrianBull 2 жыл бұрын
Indy Neidell would like a word with you!
@andreadaleyutronebel5894
@andreadaleyutronebel5894 Жыл бұрын
All of US was 'annexed' from the native folks. And SW was annexed from Mexico. Alaska was first annexed from Eskimos by Russians, then by US who bought it.
@MetalboxwithKanon
@MetalboxwithKanon Жыл бұрын
Thankyou for uploading this video, hope you’ll make a video about annexation of Sikkim in near future.
@Robert_austia
@Robert_austia Жыл бұрын
Annexation of hong kong too As #free_hong_kong😊😊 And Sikkim belongs to great INDIA only
@UniquePicsels
@UniquePicsels Жыл бұрын
Average bat eater🙂
@MetalboxwithKanon
@MetalboxwithKanon Жыл бұрын
@@UniquePicsels here in Sikkim we don’t eat bat, but beef surely.
@UniquePicsels
@UniquePicsels Жыл бұрын
@@MetalboxwithKanon Average BATMAN🦇
@poetaetoe8833
@poetaetoe8833 8 ай бұрын
kashmir too!!
@SCP-5000
@SCP-5000 2 жыл бұрын
Applying the framework of modern customary law to "China's" relationship with Tibet is anachronistic. China was not a signatory of the treaty of Westphalia. In the eye of the Chinese court, their relationship to Tibet was one of ownership.
@bizu08
@bizu08 Жыл бұрын
and yet Tibet has a different religion, different customs, different language. And a full population that did NOT want Chinese annexation. China's desire to annex it was ITS problem. Not Tibet's, not the World's
@NBll666
@NBll666 Жыл бұрын
​@@bizu08 😂你这说法真是搞笑
@charleslizz4007
@charleslizz4007 Жыл бұрын
@@bizu08 I don't think you have any idea how Tibetans suffered at that time period under the rule of aristocracy, and you wouldn't know if "a full population that did not want Chinese annexation." The people who were rejecting Chinese rule were the aristocracy who were afraid of being overturned and they clearly didn't give a damn about their own people.
@周军-i4w
@周军-i4w Жыл бұрын
According to the logic of Westerners, there is no country or region that should not be independent. The United States is a new country established by European pirates who exterminated the aborigines and invaded their land. Scotland and Northern Ireland in the United Kingdom were first slaughtered by the Anglo-Saxons through war and then colonized for a long time.
@cs0345
@cs0345 Жыл бұрын
​@@bizu08 The only people who were adamantly against annexation were the ruling class clergy. And Tibetans suffered more under their own nation-state than they did under communism
@sayantandasgupta9605
@sayantandasgupta9605 2 жыл бұрын
Please also mention how the Chinese kidnapped a child who was assigned the next Dalai Lama.
@tsetendorjee9040
@tsetendorjee9040 5 ай бұрын
Love your Talk show and God Bless you !!!❤❤❤👍👍👍
@pp834
@pp834 Жыл бұрын
So sad that slavery ended in Tibet. Evil CCP !!!
@davesthrowawayacc1162
@davesthrowawayacc1162 2 жыл бұрын
Annexation of a region's quite easy when the 95% of the population are serfs who hated the Lama class and their rule
@FM_1819
@FM_1819 2 жыл бұрын
That's some neat propaganda you got there
@marcl.1346
@marcl.1346 2 жыл бұрын
[CITATION NEEDED]
@tomaszzalewski4541
@tomaszzalewski4541 2 жыл бұрын
Nice propaganda there, here have social credit points
@SD-rednex
@SD-rednex 2 жыл бұрын
it's a more of liberation to 95% of the population if they were serfs.
@WP-cu2pf
@WP-cu2pf 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomaszzalewski4541 luckily west is so democratic, only you can get sacked from job for telling black that he is a black. Other than that is all democracy, see how Trumps free speech was respected, he wasn't banned from Twitter or smh like that.
@power-z5o
@power-z5o Жыл бұрын
RUMOURS ARE WICKED, BUT YOU SPREAD IT FOR FUN.
@ruifenghuang1029
@ruifenghuang1029 Жыл бұрын
For fun? For KZbin ads revenue,
@babahanuman83
@babahanuman83 Жыл бұрын
historical fact is that china took tibet in 1720 from mongols. and since then tibet is part of china as it was part of mongolia in the predecessing 600 years. and fact is also that more than 90% of tibetan population nowadays are happy to be part of china.
@bizbe4465
@bizbe4465 7 ай бұрын
Okay. Give your lands back to Mongolia then. With that logic you are no longer chinese. You are now apart of the Mongolian empire congrats.
@Squared_Table
@Squared_Table 3 ай бұрын
@@bizbe4465Womp womp big stick diplomacy
@ZhangtheGreat
@ZhangtheGreat 3 ай бұрын
@@bizbe4465 That won't work, because by that logic, any conquests post-1720 should be considered "invalid." This would invalidate all border changes due to conquest since then; otherwise, it's holding China to a double standard.
@bizbe4465
@bizbe4465 3 ай бұрын
@ZhangtheGreat News flash all countries hold other countries to a double standard. That aside that was my whole point. It's stupid to think that way in general. Everything america did to form it's borders is horrible. Everything China did to form its borders is horrible. Etc etc. The issue isn't that China took Tibet. It's WHEN Tibet was retaken. Only a few years after a world War. Then proceeded to treat every province they captured horribly. To this day China abuses and tortures it's minority populace. The biggest victims currently being uyghur minority. China annexing other countries while they were forming could be forgiven. For their youth every country has done horrible things before becoming democratic and providing rights. China has REFUSED to do either of those things. China continues to protect north Korea a dystopia of a nation. As well as crushing protests in the streets. KILLING political opponents who oppose the ruling regime. Communist China is essentially a modern equivalent of the Soviet union. All the rights abuse and corruption to go with it.
@ZhangtheGreat
@ZhangtheGreat 3 ай бұрын
@@bizbe4465 In many ways, China under the current regime is still in its "youth." It hasn't even been around for 100 years yet. That said, what China has learned from its 19th Century experience is that nobody gives a crap as long as economic needs are taken care of. Critics can scream and shout, but internally, the population is satisfied with their own economic situations, and that's enough. It won't satisfy idealists who argue for democratic reforms and more transparency, but it's reality.
@rjhernandez02
@rjhernandez02 2 жыл бұрын
El Salvador offering their support despite being thousands of kilometers away and sharing virtually nothing in common with the Tibetans tho
@DK-yz9xk
@DK-yz9xk Жыл бұрын
Lmao El Salvador is a failed country, who gives a f
@angps9952
@angps9952 Жыл бұрын
How about do a " The annexation of the north America by Anglo-Saxion".
@hangwengjoin9848
@hangwengjoin9848 Жыл бұрын
how he dare ? 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
@kenweller2032
@kenweller2032 Жыл бұрын
Or the annexation of most of the Americas by the Iberian?
@有文化的色情
@有文化的色情 Жыл бұрын
This is imprecise To be precise, the annexation did not occupy North America their numbers are only a small fraction
@gideonteo5796
@gideonteo5796 Жыл бұрын
Totally woke and sounds like part of the cold war
@brianbelgard5988
@brianbelgard5988 Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry, was the annexation and genocide of the American Indian part of the Cold War?
@samzhang4847
@samzhang4847 Жыл бұрын
Xizang before 1949 was not a de facto independent state; it was more like a warlord, similar to other warlords in China at the same time. For example, Zhang Zuolin was a warlord in Northeast China, Yan Xishan was a warlord in Shanxi province, and even the GMT government in Guangdong province could be considered a warlord, since the central government was based in Beijing at that time. All warlords had their own armies, independent from the central government's army. Zhang, Yan, and the GMT government all signed many treaties with foreign governments independently, just like the Dalai Lama's government did in Xizang. The GMT government even imported many USSR army officers and signed a treaty for weapons aid from the USSR for the GMT army.
@lifetimecode9527
@lifetimecode9527 Жыл бұрын
These people have been brainwashed they don't really want to know the truth. They just want to get some information to strengthen what they have been brainwashed for. No matter how much evidence you gave them, they don't care and will just insist Tibet was independent, Tibetans are oppressed and need to be "freed"
@wheresmyeyebrow1608
@wheresmyeyebrow1608 2 жыл бұрын
6:17 Man that footage is heartwarming : )
@noname-anonymous-v7c
@noname-anonymous-v7c Жыл бұрын
Those were upper class tibetan people at the time, pictures of lower class tibetans at the time isn't really heart-warming at all.
@wheresmyeyebrow1608
@wheresmyeyebrow1608 Жыл бұрын
@@noname-anonymous-v7c Yes it was indeed a very unequal society
@UniquePicsels
@UniquePicsels Жыл бұрын
​@@noname-anonymous-v7c i think same goes for lower class chinese as well
@noname-anonymous-v7c
@noname-anonymous-v7c Жыл бұрын
@@UniquePicsels true. I will never say that watching 6:17 is heartwarming.
@kerryannegarnick1846
@kerryannegarnick1846 Жыл бұрын
“For the Tibetan people it was an invasion and an occupation”? Nah 95%+ of Tibetans were serfs and the vast majority of Tibetans supported the Chinese abolition of serfdom.
@coolb359
@coolb359 Жыл бұрын
Tibet was also known for practice of slavery up until the 1950s with extreme torture and grotesque human rights abuse.
@213kilacali
@213kilacali 7 ай бұрын
Evidence? Or that’s what they teach in Chinese schools?
@coolb359
@coolb359 7 ай бұрын
@@213kilacali It's called Google, if you can afford it look it up yourself lol
@的的-m7k
@的的-m7k 5 ай бұрын
​@213kilacali wiki u r fool
@hyung6999
@hyung6999 Ай бұрын
​@@213kilacaliThis is a late reply to your question of whether Tibet's feudal theocratic serfdom practiced cruel and inhuman punishments on the common Tibetans were historical facts or Chinese text book propaganda five months ago. Robert W. Ford, a Bristish, was one of the few westerners who spent five years in Tibet from 1945 to 1950, wrote in his book Wind between the Worlds: "...All over Tibet I had seen men who had been deprived of an arm or a leg for theft....Penal amputations were done without antiseptic or sterile dressings...." Before 1950, the common Tibetans were serfs. They had no rights. There was practically no formal political, legal, and social systems to protect the common Tibetans. Help, if any, came from the monasteries on a religious perspective. The estimated life expectancy of the common Tibetans was 35 years. (It is now 72 years.) No doubt the Chinese government would embellish these facts in their text books, but the embellishments were based on facts.
@wetot2
@wetot2 Жыл бұрын
Actually the hidden and unique connection between Beijing & Moscow was the Mongol Khanate Commonwealth
@ArnoldTeras
@ArnoldTeras 2 жыл бұрын
So it was okay for Mao to let Russia take Mongolia, but NOT okay for them to allow Tibet's sovereignty? What the heck, guys??
@ArghyadeepPal
@ArghyadeepPal 2 жыл бұрын
@夭夭 Simple answer, Russia was the Communist founder and no one wanted to mess with Red Russia at that time.
@r0bmc745
@r0bmc745 Жыл бұрын
@@ArghyadeepPal That's why all of communism needs to be eradicated.
@ZHLi-op4kc
@ZHLi-op4kc Жыл бұрын
Not just mao, every Chinese will not allow Tibet to be independent. The crux of the Mongolian issue is that Mongolia has already declared independence, and the Soviet Union recognized this independence. The prerequisite for the establishment of diplomatic relations between China and the Soviet Union is that the Chinese government recognizes Mongolia's independence. So it is impossible for China to invade Mongolia.
@Fun-bz7ou
@Fun-bz7ou Жыл бұрын
It was GMT traded Mongolia for the support of the USSR, not the CCP.
@ArnoldTeras
@ArnoldTeras Жыл бұрын
@@Fun-bz7ou Mao also immediately recognized Mongolia though...it was the ROC who kept resisting its recognition internationally.
@Kevin-cm5kc
@Kevin-cm5kc 2 жыл бұрын
Man the information here is really good quality but the 'freedom' language is a real pet peeve of mine. The situation is repeatedly described as 'tibet's freedom was under threat' rather than 'tibets independence was under threat'. I mean, you say yourself that it was a feudal society run by the superstitions of theocrats who had the authority to assert what the will of God is. It didn't sound super 'free' for the average peasant whether they got independence or not. Any state that goes independent is still run by a state apparatus that must hold a monopoly on force etc. Separatism doesn't just lead to a lovely eutopia where everyone is 'free'. It's just the same state apparatus but smaller...
@jasminekaram880
@jasminekaram880 2 жыл бұрын
Free as sovereign. Sure Tibet was no liberal democracy. Well in stateless sedentary mass societies or in societies with very weak none functional state, you have warlords, ma ny actors of violence and clan structures. The rule of law and stability is needed for any civil liberty to exist.
@prw56
@prw56 2 жыл бұрын
That's a good point, its a bad thing to lose context like that when remembering history. Though I do think the "freedom" language would be well used to describe how they exist today. Everyone in China who isn't han chinese is having a bad time, let alone the ones in the chinese borderlands, and the average han isn't doing too much better.
@ShubhamMishrabro
@ShubhamMishrabro 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with tibet peasant being slaves one. I would like a video on it cause it was one of main cause china invaded. But now those peasants are free are they really free do they like the new authority or would have liked a representative who was elected
@hwg5039
@hwg5039 2 жыл бұрын
@@prw56 this is just pure bullshit, the minorities in China have many privileges, including automatically adding more marks in the college entrance exams, not restricted by the one-child policy and more.
@revolutionarybishop2352
@revolutionarybishop2352 2 жыл бұрын
@@prw56 that’s simply not true. Minority Chinese get into the same university as Han Chinese but with lower bar to ensure equality. As a Han Chinese I’m super jealous of these non Han Chinese, their culture is well preserved and they are privileged in every aspect of the society.
@williamjohn4984
@williamjohn4984 2 жыл бұрын
I understand why China wanted Tibet so bad.The major rivers of China all start in Tibet.China could not risk having a possible enemy or unfriending country controll the life blood of the nation
@russelfang7434
@russelfang7434 2 жыл бұрын
​@@sosoable The Americans just want another source of unrest between China and India so that the Asian continent becomes a second Middle East from which American arms dealers can benefit
@d.o.g573
@d.o.g573 Жыл бұрын
Sure Wumao
@williamjohn4984
@williamjohn4984 Жыл бұрын
@@d.o.g573 I had to look up what that means.Im not.Whatvi said makes sense.What is your opinion otherwise?Maybe you are too stupid to articulate one
@vincenttong106
@vincenttong106 2 жыл бұрын
A nice video, except for a very important miss. You make an effort to point out that China called it "Liberation", but you never point out Why. The closest you came to explain is that Tibetan culture is feudal. You also mentioned that China kept its promise and never change Tibetan culture in early years, not accurate. Here's why it was called "Liberation". Tibetan practiced Caste system and the lowest caste was essentially kept as slaves. China, being communist that believes in class-less society... hence, Liberated the Tibetan & caste system is abolished. You should point out this China's claim.. even if you refuted afterwards.
@szymonskoczylas5225
@szymonskoczylas5225 2 жыл бұрын
@@gracchus7782 Well they did changed it
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 2 жыл бұрын
Of course China became castleless where everyone was now equal... But some were more equal then others I.e anyone in main communist party and Mao’s circle where they got everything they want while millions starve to death from there incompetent policies. Also if it was just liberation, they would’ve allowed Tibet remain independent but with a different government after the invasion, but the fact they annexed the whole nation under there direct control shows me they had other motivations then to “free” the Tibetan people.
@m2heavyindustries378
@m2heavyindustries378 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah yeah settle down wumao
@weuyghbe08ehf9
@weuyghbe08ehf9 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonlyon730 Who cares about the motives? Look at the aftermath. China's takeover of Tibet was objectively better for Tibetans in every aspect. Cities, waterways, and trains are built, average life span shoots up from 35 years to 80 years, serfdom and slavery abolished, and affirmative action given to Tibetans. I could go on and list countless benefits for the Tibetans. By the way, China allowed Tibet to continue its feudal system, as an autonomous region. China invaded once local Tibetan rulers raised armies and massacred bureaucrats in the region.
@benarthurhuzz4664
@benarthurhuzz4664 3 ай бұрын
​@@weuyghbe08ehf9 pathetic statement 😂
@georgeeagle872
@georgeeagle872 2 жыл бұрын
The Cold War. This guy does have a cold war mentality.
@christopherconard2831
@christopherconard2831 2 жыл бұрын
Through divination a voice spoke to me. It said "Don't forget the like button".
@catalinodominguez3919
@catalinodominguez3919 Жыл бұрын
Thank you boss for this help in keeping us updated, thank you very much
@joeyxu469
@joeyxu469 Жыл бұрын
The Dalai Lama liked the video and stuck out his tongue :face_with_tongue:
@callenclarke371
@callenclarke371 2 ай бұрын
I'm getting to where I wait for the joke written into the subscription plug at the end. Great stuff!
@samzhang4847
@samzhang4847 Жыл бұрын
The map of China before 1949 was not correct. Xinjiang, from 1912 (when the Qing government collapsed) to 1949, most time was controlled by 2 warlords, first is Yang Zengxin, then Sheng Shicai, only about 3 years was controled by East Turkey, Yang and Zeng, who both used the title 'Chairman of Xinjiang Provincial Government'. Wiki: Yang Zengxin (traditional Chinese: 楊增新; simplified Chinese: 杨增新; pinyin: Yáng Zēngxīn; March 6, 1864 - July 7, 1928) was the ruler of Xinjiang after the Xinhai Revolution in 1911 until his assassination in 1928. Sheng Shicai (Chinese: 盛世才; pinyin: Shèng Shìcái; 3 December 1895 - 13 July 1970) was a Chinese warlord who ruled Xinjiang from 1933 to 1944
@土桥一男
@土桥一男 2 жыл бұрын
You actually means anybody who are strong enough can be independent. Well, it is the same vice versa.
@lainfonet
@lainfonet Жыл бұрын
The vast majority of Tibetans (who were serfs when the Dalai Lama ruled), consider themselves Chinese and Tibet is Chinese territory. The class of slave owners in exile in India does not represent the Tibetan people. However, a divided China is in the interests of the West. Therefore, the voices of the Dalai Lama and his entourage have been greatly amplified in the Western media.
@travellerstoryteller
@travellerstoryteller Жыл бұрын
What they want to do again in Taiwan?? Big difference is the fact Taiwan is prepared to welcome Chinese
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes Жыл бұрын
Except they’re not.
@travellerstoryteller
@travellerstoryteller Жыл бұрын
@@baneofbanes let Chinese try to invade the island and will be a catastrophe to China, with thousands drawn in the waters around the island
@MyUrbanExplorationOnline
@MyUrbanExplorationOnline Жыл бұрын
Nice video. When will this channel covered The Great Emu War?
@jankowal115
@jankowal115 2 жыл бұрын
With this video comes an interesting episode where you can describe the uprising in Tibet and the subsequent war in the Himalayas between India and China. Lots of interesting political and military events, but one thing is missing from you. Little has been discussed about decolonization and Africa in general. I have a question, when will you finally start getting into the subject of South Africa and Rhodesia, very important players of the Cold War?
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love something about its nuclear program. But they did talk about Kenya and Algeria.
@jankowal115
@jankowal115 2 жыл бұрын
@@Game_Hero Don't get me wrong, the nuclear topic is very interesting, and there have also been a whole lot of movies about it, but the topic of South Africa and Rhodesia is interesting because it is a story of those proxy wars, and not on a small scale as it might seem.
@linshitaolst4936
@linshitaolst4936 Жыл бұрын
The uprising in Tibet? Do you mean that the slave lords and nobles hoped to continue the serfdom tradition and launched riots? During the armed conflict between the Communist Party and the Indian army, Tibetan herdsmen used their yaks to transport a large amount of supplies to the pla, and the Communist Party was very popular among the grassroots people
@jankowal115
@jankowal115 Жыл бұрын
@@linshitaolst4936 I didn't know that exactly. Very nice and interesting comment my friend. Apparently, the situation of Tibet is shown differently in other parts of the world.
@randy2819
@randy2819 Жыл бұрын
@@jankowal115 How many temps and interns are willing to fight and die for their employees ? Tibet was mostly a feudal society, which basicly means most people were treated worse than temps and interns. There always been more peasants than fancy lords, sure fancy lords look great on tv and netflix, but they are all cunts, in tibet or elsewhere, in the past, present and future. That is untill I have become a lord, then you all should fight for my lands and defend it with my life, because I am some lama lord something.
@ajh6354
@ajh6354 2 жыл бұрын
China has been busy putting up a dozen dams accross the fresh water flowing out of Tibet. The liklihood of China giving up control of those resources is zero. Downriver users of the water like Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos are looking at a thirsty future.
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 жыл бұрын
Surprise, surprise. The Chinese are abusing their neighbors.
@zeitgeistx5239
@zeitgeistx5239 2 жыл бұрын
Mexico has the literal same issue with America. As a Chinese American I can attest to that 80% of what we accuse China of doing, we do, but choose to ignore. When it comes to China, it's often just white people projecting their bias and racism.
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 жыл бұрын
@@zeitgeistx5239 An example of how we are stealing the natural resources of Mexico? You should have dozens of examples with your blanket statement.
@ajh6354
@ajh6354 2 жыл бұрын
@@zeitgeistx5239Truth is the truth.
@ajh6354
@ajh6354 2 жыл бұрын
@@zeitgeistx5239 Race has nothing to do with what I said. Cannot speak for others. Certainly do not want others speaking for me.
@_Abjuranax_
@_Abjuranax_ 2 жыл бұрын
I once saw a U.S. documentary film about the lands of China from the 1930's, which clearly showed Tibet as part of China.
@CannibaLouiST
@CannibaLouiST 2 жыл бұрын
You're probably remembering the WW2 propaganda film series Why We Fight.
@CannibaLouiST
@CannibaLouiST 2 жыл бұрын
And that's Republic of China, not Red China.
@alexanderl.6207
@alexanderl.6207 2 жыл бұрын
@@CannibaLouiST they meant the land of china
@CannibaLouiST
@CannibaLouiST 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderl.6207 the PRC didn't exist til 1949.
@rumrunner8019
@rumrunner8019 2 жыл бұрын
And a Chinese book from the same era clearly shows Cuba as a US territory. So it's okay if the US invades Cuba?
@consp51
@consp51 Жыл бұрын
Should look it up on Google Maps, You will get a better perspective. Tibet is an isolated region surrounded by high mountains, Separating it from Other countries. Tibet had always kept an affiliated /Sub-state relationship with the Chinese empire. The Lamas also traveled to BJ for consultation and swear loyalties to the emperor. The royal court gives approval and kept records of different Lamas that reincarnated. The same relationship also existed in Korea and Vietnam in the past. Chinese emperor gave approval to the new king. Those relationships where either came to establishments after either cultural influences + border war. It's hard for KZbinr to create a full story without a deep understanding of the background and history.
@jonnyboy8143
@jonnyboy8143 Жыл бұрын
Very educational, thank you.
@alexandrovics5779
@alexandrovics5779 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I think it could have been improved slightly if the map showing Chinese advances would have included some more topographical features than just rivers, so the moves are a little bit more sense. Nonetheless it's a great and super interesting video!
@johnkronz7562
@johnkronz7562 2 жыл бұрын
Something that kind of gets left out is the opinion of the Tibetan people. We know their feudal and theocratic rulers wanted to stay in charge, but the common people even care?
@Roachh2877
@Roachh2877 2 жыл бұрын
Most were illetrate and barely knew anything.
@riverman6462
@riverman6462 2 жыл бұрын
Considering the fact that China faced resistance (even though little) can be considered that people DID care that they were invaded. Not to mention, a lot of Tibetans migrated from Tibet to India, Nepal and Bhutan. Many of them today advocate for the independence of Tibet and are ardent followers of their former theocratic ruler, the Dalai Lama.
@johnkronz7562
@johnkronz7562 2 жыл бұрын
@@riverman6462 that China faced some resistance can just be proof that the nobles and clerics had some loyal personal troops whose fortunes were tied to their own. And the fact that they refused to expand the army to arm the peasantry even at the cost of losing badly hints at what Tibetan rulers thought the opinion of the people might be. Today we hear very loud proclamations of support for a return to theocracy by Tibetans living abroad because many of them are part of that exodus of nobles and priests, people who would be returning to positions of authority and privilege in a “free” Tibet.
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 жыл бұрын
The Tibetan people don't even remember the old system. Meanwhile, they see everyday how the Han Chinese steal the wealth from their homeland as the ethnic Tibetans remain in poverty. While the Tibetan people say they want freedom to rule themselves, Chinese Propaganda mischaracterizes this as them wanting to return to the old system.
@johnkronz7562
@johnkronz7562 2 жыл бұрын
@@badluck5647 how does China steal their wealth? And what evidence do we have of actual residents of Tibet being opposed to China?
@FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem 2 жыл бұрын
We brought civilization, we built roads and infrastructure and brought an end to slavery CCP on Tibet "reclamation"? No, Italy during the 1936 invasion of Ethiopia
@Commonlogicguy
@Commonlogicguy 2 жыл бұрын
And I thought you are talking about the westward expansion of US 😂
@jagdpanther2224
@jagdpanther2224 2 жыл бұрын
Are you talking Hawaill since1893, how the Independent Hawaill Kingdom has gone? And how these islands became United States! And why there was a naval facility there?
@FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem Жыл бұрын
@@Commonlogicguy whataboutism 101
@FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem Жыл бұрын
@@jagdpanther2224 whataboutism 101
@canada317
@canada317 2 жыл бұрын
Subscriber since day one, appreciate it all, keep going.
@chiehleung
@chiehleung 5 ай бұрын
interesting thing, the history from I know, ROC(Republic of China) inherited the territory of Qing(the last feudal dynasty of China), the territory of Qing also include in Tibet. after the civil war the ROC run away to Taiwan island and then the sovereignty of China inherited by PRC(People's Republic of China)also included the permanent seat of United Nations Security Council and no matter ROC or PRC both of them were all refused to acknowledge all of the inequality of treaties which signed by Qing which intimidated by western powers.
@jingchengyang8957
@jingchengyang8957 2 жыл бұрын
The map in the thumbnail is wrong, "East Turkestan" never existed, it was under the control of Chinese warlord Sheng Shi Chi and later by KMT directly. Also, Tibet wasn't that big either.
@CannibaLouiST
@CannibaLouiST 2 жыл бұрын
East Turkestan was already a term back in 19th century, along with Chinese Tartary.
@jingchengyang8957
@jingchengyang8957 2 жыл бұрын
@@CannibaLouiST But it's only a term, it's not declared as East Turkestan. Labelling it as East Turkestan suggests East Turkestan existed as a political entity, which is not true.
@CannibaLouiST
@CannibaLouiST 2 жыл бұрын
​@@jingchengyang8957 Terminologies alone do deserve an entire episode. In fact, maybe two episodes at least.
@jingchengyang8957
@jingchengyang8957 2 жыл бұрын
@@CannibaLouiST It's not about terminologies, because it's simply wrong to call it so. You can't just call Christian Spain al andalus or Russia as the Soviet Union in modern times. It's important to refer to political entities with proper names at that current time, otherwise you'd probably fail high school history for a start.
@CannibaLouiST
@CannibaLouiST 2 жыл бұрын
​@@jingchengyang8957 Soviet Union was called Russia by many throughout the years to this day. The Roman Empire after the western part fell can be called the Greek Empire/Byzantium/Byzantine Empire. Meanshile, al-Andalus ain't even the formal name of the Caliphates over there. It's of course about terminologies. It's terminologies on top of politics. And East Turkestan, Chinese Tartary aren't the only terms either, there's also the Chinese Turkistan. Translated Chinese terms at the time only give out Sinkiang, Hsin-chiang and more, but not Xinjiang until the 1950s.
@asianooasia6719
@asianooasia6719 2 жыл бұрын
Dalai Lama is mongolian title given to the spiritual bouddism Leader. Dalai = Universal/Oceanic Lama = Monk
@55jigme
@55jigme 2 жыл бұрын
Most Tibetan have large percentage of Mongolian DNA in them esp . In eastern part of Tibet
@riza-2396
@riza-2396 2 жыл бұрын
And Dalai Lama isn't really a tradition inherit from Tibetan culture, it's really simple, Beijing choose a person to rule Tibet. And the drawing lots thing isn't really about gods, when it was Qianlong emperor of Qing dynasty, Tibetan nobles were asking him to pick a noble's children to be the next dalai lama, Qianlong doesn't really like that nobleman so he just gave them a bottle and say go find a kid from the streets who got luckey
@周军-i4w
@周军-i4w Жыл бұрын
According to the logic of Westerners, there is no country or region that should not be independent. The United States is a new country established by European pirates who exterminated the aborigines and invaded their land. Scotland and Northern Ireland in the United Kingdom were first slaughtered by the Anglo-Saxons through war and then colonized for a long time.
@ronchristiantenala4056
@ronchristiantenala4056 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the movie of Brad Pitt titled Seven Years in Tibet because of this.
@greatasia606
@greatasia606 2 жыл бұрын
A bit of Chinese history for sheep out there: Tibet became a part of China in the mid of 13th century. In order to effectively govern Tibet, the job of Dalai Lama was created by the then ruler of Yuan dynasty (1271AD-1368AD). As this time, Europeans had yet to arrive at America, so the genocide of native Americans had not started yet. Ha ha ha!
@Raufi1917
@Raufi1917 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely propaganda rubbish. Harter was a Nazi, SS even, who fled British pow camps and escaped to Tibet. Before that, Himmler himself signed the documents for Harrer‘s marriage
@周军-i4w
@周军-i4w Жыл бұрын
According to the logic of Westerners, there is no country or region that should not be independent. The United States is a new country established by European pirates who exterminated the aborigines and invaded their land. Scotland and Northern Ireland in the United Kingdom were first slaughtered by the Anglo-Saxons through war and then colonized for a long time.
@stevecariggillio4139
@stevecariggillio4139 Жыл бұрын
20 points have been added to your social credit score. We at the CCP appreciate your work wu-mao.
@ronchristiantenala4056
@ronchristiantenala4056 Жыл бұрын
@@lanlantulan elaborate further
@MaximGhost
@MaximGhost Жыл бұрын
1949 Tibet: "We'll use peace as our weapon. The newly formed United Nations and western countries will protect our sovereignty." Sinicized Tibet: "Well, that didn't work out as planned."
@HWDragonborn
@HWDragonborn Жыл бұрын
Tibet: Western countries will protect our sovereignty. Poland: you sure about that, bro?
@qguan989
@qguan989 Жыл бұрын
"Free Tibet" is rich, seeing how it was a theocracy.
@tyq5775
@tyq5775 Жыл бұрын
Despite its flaws, this video maker's explanation of Tibetan history is the most fair explanation I have seen so far. The author of the video breaks away from the standpoint of ideology and social systems, and his research on historical details is very thorough!
@jimmylee1776
@jimmylee1776 Жыл бұрын
This video is produced by the Western Media. On very important point not stated in this video is : Tibet was a Serfdom. The rich land owners (including the Dalai Lama) benefited great wealth from the hard-work of farmers. China sees it as liberating the poor farmers from serfdom. If you visit Tibet, now, you will see that Tibet has good infrastructure, technology etc as you would see in many parts of China. If Tibet continued as a serfdom, it will be left behind by the rest of China. Tibet still practises Buddhism, as they did for centuries. God bless Tibet & China. Best wishes from Australia 🇦🇺
@tinytank6642
@tinytank6642 Жыл бұрын
He does talk about it in another episode. Also that’s not a good excuse to invade a independent nation .
@JonKino828
@JonKino828 Жыл бұрын
@@tinytank6642 No country recognised Tibet as an independent nation. Get over it.
@tinytank6642
@tinytank6642 Жыл бұрын
@@JonKino828 No country recognised many nations. For example, the ottomans never recognised the qinq but the qinq were obviously independent.
@JonKino828
@JonKino828 Жыл бұрын
@@tinytank6642 lol... You are trying too hard. Why bring ancient history when you can give an example of a recent one? Is it that you can't think of one in recent history?
@tinytank6642
@tinytank6642 Жыл бұрын
@@JonKino828 The ottomans aren’t ancient. And of course I can get a modern example. Bhutan doesn’t recognised the PRC. Are you saying the PRC isn’t independent?
@creatoruser736
@creatoruser736 2 жыл бұрын
You should have talked about how Tibet was governed when it was independent. People think of Buddhist monks as calm and nice, but there they ran the country with incredible cruelty.
@elektrotehnik94
@elektrotehnik94 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any video online/ source that presents this in a brief way?
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 2 жыл бұрын
Also it’s fucking hilarious that maps such as the one in the thumbnail makes Tibet out to be so large. When in truth, “Tibet the state” if they even were a state during the Republican era was only about 3/4 of what is today’s Tibetan Autonomous Region. The eastern quarter of today’s Tibet and the western chunk of Sichuan used to be its own province called Xikang (formally the 川边特别区 roughly translating to Special Region Of Frontier Sichuan).
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 2 жыл бұрын
@@elektrotehnik94 Let me look and get back to u
@rxzzh8074
@rxzzh8074 2 жыл бұрын
@@elektrotehnik94 before the 1950’s liberation, tibet buddhism had some horrifying practices like making carpet from human skins, and the region still runs slavery.
@syjiang
@syjiang 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't validate annexation. The japanese also gave that as a reasoning for taking chinese territory.
@_framedlife
@_framedlife 2 жыл бұрын
India dropped the ball hard on this one.
@OhNotThat
@OhNotThat 2 жыл бұрын
Indians are always looking out for their own self interest, they are not good guys. Not bad guys. Just self interested guys. If given the chance they would have brutally colonized the world much the same as any european, and were extremely racist against the African and Pakistani. Proudly so.
@jagdpanther2224
@jagdpanther2224 2 жыл бұрын
What can India do? Nothing their business!
@jackytang3683
@jackytang3683 2 жыл бұрын
New Delhi had met same situation in1962 China India war, India almost can't protect himself
@fargr5926
@fargr5926 Жыл бұрын
India got no ground to intervene; after all you are not British. Even British was ready to give up.
@VinaySharma-xq6nw
@VinaySharma-xq6nw Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact : There was a Pig called Jawaharlal Nehru who supplied rice to Chinese soldiers from India to help them to annex Tibet .
@stacy5625
@stacy5625 Жыл бұрын
Tibet became a part of China since more than 700 years ago,which is more than 2 time of American history😂😂
@andreawallenberger2668
@andreawallenberger2668 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if everyone had forgotten Tibet, just 2 days ago!
@greatasia606
@greatasia606 2 жыл бұрын
Ask daddy America or any European country to produce a document that can be used to prove that Tibet was an independent country. Ha ha ha!
@andreawallenberger2668
@andreawallenberger2668 2 жыл бұрын
@@greatasia606 Only after u prove either one is the expert on Tibetan autonomy LOL u troll
@greatasia606
@greatasia606 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreawallenberger2668 Dalai Lama is a post set up by Chinese central government around 700 years ago to govern Tibet. You want to ask the Dalai Lama how he got his job title? Ha ha ha!
@r0bmc745
@r0bmc745 Жыл бұрын
@@greatasia606 I think it's time to partition China again :)
@hannibalbarca9832
@hannibalbarca9832 Жыл бұрын
​@@r0bmc745 you can certainly try, but you will certainly fail to do so
@dirremoire
@dirremoire 2 жыл бұрын
Tibet was basically a feudal autocracy and peasants lived in squalor and we're horribly treated. They are much better off now.
@zyanego3170
@zyanego3170 2 жыл бұрын
Han man's burden.
@bingwen469
@bingwen469 2 жыл бұрын
They're abused just as much now with the genocide of their culture.
@wanderingpine4297
@wanderingpine4297 2 жыл бұрын
Besides the tier-one cities like Beijing, Shanghai, and Shenzhen, the Chinese live in squalor too. And there's no freedom to migrate for those born in rural areas.
@dirremoire
@dirremoire 2 жыл бұрын
@@wanderingpine4297 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 2 жыл бұрын
If by seeing their language and culture eradicated and their movements monitored after what was essentially an imperialist conquest of a different people is good according to you. Then I'm suuuure the Africans appreciated the times they were under European occupation.
@DunLiu0
@DunLiu0 Жыл бұрын
I don't get it after 3:35. Why British matters? Can California claim independent if it sign a deal with China or Russia?
@juamu1132
@juamu1132 2 жыл бұрын
the feared tibetans destroyed in less than a month. tibet raided sichuan as late as the 1900's ,so you would see why most of the PLA soldiers that invaded came from sichuan.most sichuanese back then had an intense sense of revenge against tibetans.
@Jimmy-tv8tv
@Jimmy-tv8tv Жыл бұрын
Reminder Taiwan is a province of China.
@JudgeJudith
@JudgeJudith Жыл бұрын
I don’t think so “Jimmy” 😂😂
@БолдсайханБатчимэг
@БолдсайханБатчимэг 2 жыл бұрын
Their mindset: If I can’t see anyone new, there’s no enemies
@lcy5169
@lcy5169 2 жыл бұрын
People talk about the Uyghurs these days, but the issues on Tibet is going to be forgotten in contrast. Thanks for a video about them!
@resentfuldragon
@resentfuldragon 2 жыл бұрын
the uyghurs are mentioned because of how recent and widespread it is. Over 1 million are currently in concentration camps and women are being raped and forcibly married off to non-muslims. its a genocide.
@cheesypuffs1342
@cheesypuffs1342 2 жыл бұрын
not forgotten, just the US can't do anything about it. limp weiner foreign policy. GDP per capita in neighboring country Nepal = $1100 USD GDP per capita in Ukraine = $4000 USD GDP per capita in Tibet & xinjiang = $8000+ USD how do we get this situation where the US send legions of neoliberal economic advisors to nepal & ukraine, train their politicians in Ivy league institutions, give tens of billions in IMF & world bank loans, send savvy wall st money managers & entrepreneurs, actors & actresses like sean penn, angelina jolie, get NATO instructors to train their militaries for almost a decade and yet...the Ukrainian & nepalese citizenry's standard of living PLUMMETS? and this is before the russian invasion. tax revenue in Ukieland is so low now the US pays the salaries of government workers. meanwhile all the places communist china administers, the populace sees a rise in their incomes & standard of living. kinda sad but Ukrainian engineers are applying for working VISAs to go to china cuz there are no jobs in the US economy oh don't even look up afghanistan's GDP per capita. after spending $2 and a half trillion in "nation building" programs, propping up a corrupt democratic government & occupying the country with NATO troops for 2 decades, things have only gotten worse mission accomplished! 🤣
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterseth3296 Yeah and the Irish had been traditional British minorities for centuries with all of Ireland under their control of many different English and Scottish lines of Kings controlling them. Would you justify if the British were to decide to invade and take over Ireland again?
@tonyeffik6781
@tonyeffik6781 2 жыл бұрын
what issues? tibet used to be a feudal serfdom, it’s much better now
@wanderingpine4297
@wanderingpine4297 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterseth3296 You should've said the same regarding the Uyghurs and Tibetans, because you're clearly ignorant regarding them as well.
@gunsumwong3948
@gunsumwong3948 Жыл бұрын
Tibet was unprepared? What about the CIA established a secret military training camp called Camp Hale, located near Leadville, Colorado where the Tibetans were trained to sabotage operations against the Communist Chinese? The speaker selected materials for this video saying Dalai Lama seeking help from US and UK. He attended meetings in China as the head of his people and agreed to implement reform too. This has been well documented. The most serious failing of this video is it shows the richest Tibetans to represent Tibet! Before Chinese government intervention in Tibet 95% of Tibetans were serfs owned by the richest landlords among them was the Dalai Lama. The historical record shows The family of the 14th Dalai Lama himself owned 27 manors, 30 areas of ranches and 6,000 serfs. The Dalai Lama alone among his possessions had 8 tonne of gold, 4,750 tonne of silver, 20,000 piece of jewellery and more than 10,000 expensive silk and fur clothing, 300 heads of cow & sheep. Due to 95% of Tibetans living as serf the averaged life expectancy of Tibetan people in 1959 was 35.5 years. After the Tibet's democratic reform it is 72.19 years in 2020. The US had been behind the Tibet colour revolution from day one and had a detailed history of the troop movements, attacks and counterattacks that no one outside China could possibly possesses unless US was party to and even directing the coup. This is even more remarkable because the whole US-funded, US-equipped and US-trained rebellion lasted only in days. Saying Tibet seeking UN legal assistance is a laugh too because in UN the China seat was occupied by the US-back ROC who lost the civil war to the CPC and fed to Taiwan. CPC wasn't a member of US until 1971. The US flagrantly using Tibet to secede and divide China was malicious but to perpetuate a propaganda war against China is even evil. This is because Tibetans are well integrated in China that has 56 ethnicities. Half of the Tibetans do not live in Tibet but in Sichuan, Qinghai, Gansu and Yunnan provinces. Each year the Tibetans hold celebration for commemorate the abolition of serfdom. Go and check out the youtube videos by the real Tibetans themselves.
@dxj8348
@dxj8348 Жыл бұрын
The CCP's rule is still much better than the local tibetan nobles and monks, if only you know the bloody history before 1950, Dalai Lama even uses human bones and heads as material for sacrifice. The PLA, although established a communism, however, gave the tibetan peasants land and a relatively basic personal freedom.
@Kianquenseda
@Kianquenseda Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@omenapuulta
@omenapuulta Жыл бұрын
1903 British invasion to Tibet. Can't imagine u ignore this. unsubscribe, bye-bye
@crytow5071
@crytow5071 Жыл бұрын
He also ignored the CIA was training Tibetan rebels in the US or that CIA money poured into it.
@aranos6269
@aranos6269 2 жыл бұрын
Chinese losing patience and invading next day is nonsense. It takes weeks and in that time months to assemble that kind of force
@ckwongau2008
@ckwongau2008 2 жыл бұрын
When the United Nation charter was signed in 1945 , the UN recognized Tibet is part of China ,In the 1945 UN world Map Tibet is within the border of China , the same 1945 Map also recognized independent Mongolia ( which the previous 1944 world Map doesn't recognized Independent Mongolia ) . United Nation recognized People Republic of china is the official Government of China in 1971 As you can see United Nation recognized Tibet is part of China long before they even recognized People Republic of china is China. In a way in 1950 People Republic of china only moved into a region defined by United Nation as part of China .
@m2heavyindustries378
@m2heavyindustries378 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah yeah settle down wumao, head back to lockdown right now
@williamthebonquerer9181
@williamthebonquerer9181 Жыл бұрын
I guess Azerbaijan isn't invading/ besieging artsakh
@brunokagawa6287
@brunokagawa6287 Жыл бұрын
There's no way that Tibet would be independent as long as China remains a strong country, if only for the control of vital water resources available in Tibet.
@gabrielzhu
@gabrielzhu Жыл бұрын
Nothing on the slave and special agent involved in this ???
@VL-inquisitor
@VL-inquisitor 2 жыл бұрын
If someone (Dalai Lama) decides to claim independence and then the region (Tibet) will become an independent nation. If the said western logic is followed, and assume that Donetsk and Luhansk want independence with the support of the majority of their people, then such regions should become independent states. Using the same reasoning, Crimea should be freed from Ukraine and the wish of the majority Russian-speaking population should be respected as they voted in favor of joining Russia. Likewise, we should respect the wish of the French-speaking Quebec province in Canada, Catalonia (Spain), Assam state (India), if the majority of the people there so decide to gain an independence status. If the West does not agree to the independence of Donetsk, Luhansk, Crimea, and so on, then there is NO basis for treating Tibet as an independent state. There should not be any double standard. Nor should the rule of recognizing state independence be arbitrarily applied. And mind you, Tibet has been part of China (Yuan Dynasty) since the 13th century. The history of Tibet being part of Imperial China is indeed earlier than European settlers moving to America and the founding of the United States of America.
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 2 жыл бұрын
Also it’s fucking hilarious that maps such as the one in the thumbnail makes Tibet out to be so large. When in truth, “Tibet the state” if they even were a state during the Republican era was only about 3/4 of what is today’s Tibetan Autonomous Region. The eastern quarter of today’s Tibet and the western chunk of Sichuan used to be its own province called Xikang (formally the 川边特别区 roughly translating to Special Region Of Frontier Sichuan).
@panzerofthelake506
@panzerofthelake506 2 жыл бұрын
It's not about Tibet being a part of China, it's about the CCP supression of Tibetan culture that was allowed to exist under all Chinese empires. The forced sinicization of Tibet is the main issue here. The CCP propaganda makes critisism towards it look like critisism towards China when that is simply not true. The west doesn't have problems with China, it has problems with the CCP alone. And another thing, Assamese do not want to join China I think you mean Arunachal Pradesh. And there to most people do not want to give up their democratic rights to join China. If they join China they will be turned into a military border state, striped of all political rights. Also isn't the CCP anti imperialist? Why would it want to claim all the imperial holdings of the Chinese Empire?? Atleast the Soviet union made its colonies into republics. China is straight up colonising these areas with the Han Chinese. Why doesn't China negotiate with India in good faith? It's always threats and attempts to gain an upper hand, never a good intent.
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 2 жыл бұрын
@lati long The size on the thumbnail map is more like what the Dalai Lama wants in his 大藏区 idea, made up of Tibet and a whole lot of Qinghai.
@alexanderl.6207
@alexanderl.6207 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidw.2791 just a little subtle misinformation that he we would not see 😂
@lvjinbin28
@lvjinbin28 2 жыл бұрын
USA used to support Kuomingtang's claim on Tibet and 11dashline, but why West didn't support CCP's claim on Tibet and 9dashline now? We know why because Kuomingtang has been lapdog for USA for 90 years either in Nanjing or Taiwan, just like now why West supports Ukraine's sovereignty today. Tibet is like today's Kurdistan, it's an independent entity but no countries have diplomatic relations with them, if Syria invaded Kurdistan then it's 'unification' West is kind to CCP only when CCP was ally against Soviet in 1980s, after Soviet collapsed then USA didn't need CCP anymore, then USA just supports separatists human rights under CCP rule, so you know why because China now is too strong for USA
@MaidenUtah1
@MaidenUtah1 2 жыл бұрын
Good post. Can you do one on the employment of former Nazis in both the East and the West after WWII? Thanks.
@bryannelson9380
@bryannelson9380 2 жыл бұрын
There are already two videos on that topic on this channel
@wisdombites3586
@wisdombites3586 Жыл бұрын
Can you talk about how india annexed Sikkim next ?
@杨磊-w2g
@杨磊-w2g 11 ай бұрын
还可以谈谈怎么样吞并克什米尔和锡克王国以及印度被歧视的两亿穆斯林
@groundofbeing9733
@groundofbeing9733 Жыл бұрын
Can you even imagine if America “annexed” Canada…? China is South USSR. Remember that.
@vermouthstone9446
@vermouthstone9446 Жыл бұрын
The issue of Tibet was originally simple. It used to be part of the Qing Empire, Although the Dalai Lama XIII tried to seek independence while the Qing government was weakening, the Tibetans feared the British more than the Qing Empire, because the British Empire at that time was a more ambitious existence, and they invaded Tibet militarily. so Dalai Lama XIII finally chose the Qing Empire . And the Qing Empire handed over the ruling power to the Republic of China through the 《Qing Emperor's abdication edict》. After the establishment of the ccp, the People's Liberation Army peacefully entered Tibet and got along happily with the 14th Dalai Lama. Everything seemed to be going on harmoniously and perfectly. But in just one year, things went bad. The agrarian revolution of the communist government advanced to Tibet. The land policy of the CCP in mainland China was divided into two stages. The first stage was to re-divide the average land, which was welcomed by the vast majority of farmers at that time. In 1952, the land policy in mainland China changed, and the communist government implemented Soviet-style collective farms on a large scale.implemented Soviet-style collective farms on a large scale. which created a terrible disaster in the years that followed.Massive man-made famine. Communist Party officials made a stupid and terrible decision on how to implement the communist government's land policy in Tibet.“Two steps to one step”,That is to abolish serfdom, skip the equal distribution of land, and directly nationalize the land, entering the Soviet-style collective farm model.This immediately caused conflict between Tibetans and communist officials, And caused a famine, some people starved to death.Tibetans in Kangding flock to Lhasa to seek help from their traditional leader, the Dalai Lama.And the communist regime saw it as a “rebellion”.The Dalai Lama could only flee to India. The cause of the Tibet issue lies in the stupid policies of the communist regime.But after years of gestation and delays, it eventually turned into an ethnic conflict for Tibetans abroad. You know the communist regime never admits their mistakes, never says sorry we were wrong, because their rationale for ruling is that they will always be right. Therefore, they will never revoke the sentence of "rebellion" against overseas Tibetans, and they will never put down their stance to seek a proper solution. They are fucking communists.They never take responsibility for their stupidity and mistakes.
@babahanuman83
@babahanuman83 Жыл бұрын
as of now about 90% of tibetans are very happy to live in communist china.
@MoModeMoN89
@MoModeMoN89 2 жыл бұрын
History will look back upon Tibet, and the overwhelming majority would agree that its annexations was for the better, whether it was right or wrong at the time, does not matter. What people don't realise is Tibet society feudal prior to its annexations, 95% of the population were serf , basically slaves and could never own propert, and thier lives and that of thier family sole purpose was to serve the elite theocracy. Today most Tibetan are living modern lives, with housing, education, health care, jobs, careers and most importantly no longer slaves !!!
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt the Mao’s china did it out the goodness of their hearts to “free the serfs/slaves”.
@MoModeMoN89
@MoModeMoN89 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonlyon730 Does it matter what mao intention were? what matters is the results, it is a fact that Tibet got to modernize its economic and society. Its not like the West had good intentions when they began colonialism now did they? the fact is when colonialism ended, the fromer colonies were worse off.
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 2 жыл бұрын
@@MoModeMoN89 Say that to the people of the Congo under the occupation of Belgium.
@MoModeMoN89
@MoModeMoN89 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonlyon730 Exactly my point, Western colonialism is far worse precisely because of the results. The vast majority of the colonies were left in utter poverty, my country included. We were robbed, and plundered. So yes, China methodology is far better because it yield better results.
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 2 жыл бұрын
@Armament Armed ArmA convenient excuse to conquer and take over the territory.
@PP266
@PP266 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Didn't know 80% of the things here explained.
@zeitgeistx5239
@zeitgeistx5239 2 жыл бұрын
As a Chinese American immigrant I support Freedom for Tibet but yet growing up in America I quickly realized the China discourse is mostly just racism. As if you support freedom for Tibet why don't you support freedom for Basque, Okinawa, Catalan, Tyrol? Why don't you support freedom for minority groups in Western countries? There are dozens of groups fighting for their freedom in the West and yet their conveniently ignored because it's NOT CHINA. This is by no means a defense of the CCP but a condemnation of white racism conveniently disguised in the form of sympathy for Tibet. You can't claim for support freedom for oppressed people but ONLY when it comes to China. There's native Hawaiians fighting for freedom in America right now but RIchard Gere won't care.
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 2 жыл бұрын
Also it’s fucking hilarious that maps such as the one in the thumbnail makes Tibet out to be so large. When in truth, “Tibet the state” if they even were a state during the Republican era was only about 3/4 of what is today’s Tibetan Autonomous Region. The eastern quarter of today’s Tibet and the western chunk of Sichuan used to be its own province called Xikang (formally the 川边特别区 roughly translating to Special Region Of Frontier Sichuan).
@user-dl1bs6lm1g
@user-dl1bs6lm1g 2 жыл бұрын
The territories you mention are autonomous regions within their respective countries, their languages and culture are respected and promoted. In the case of Tyrol they have very favorable tax conditions with the central state, most of the money they produce stays there, they contribute very little to the country. They are also allowed to speak german freely, so much so that it is the first language of the region. If South Tyrol was part of Austria they wouldn't have all of these benefits, it is financially better for them to stay as a part of Italy. These regions also have high standards of living (besides Okinawa, whose situation I do not know). On the other hand you have China exploiting Tibet, daming the whole region to power up its metropolis in the coast while also trying to influence downstream nations. Tibetans living in Tibet are poorer and have worse living and working conditions than Han Chinese living in the same region. You are comparing populations that want autonomy (maybe even independence) but they are not being held hostage in their homeland like tibetans. What China has been actually doing with Tibet has been swept under the rug... If a Western country did what China is doing in Tibet it would have much more public notoriety. The thing with the modern United States (and the rest of the developed west) is that people have no idea about Tibet, yet one side of the political spectrum is willing to use it due to their hate towards the Chinese, while the other side is willing to ignore it completely because it does not fit this modern narrative that only certain nations can be imperialist and only certain ethnic groups can be racist and discriminate minorities.
@jamesneedham6265
@jamesneedham6265 2 жыл бұрын
Have you heard of Ukraine lol
@CannibaLouiST
@CannibaLouiST 2 жыл бұрын
You expect the channel to talk about Hawaii in a Tibet video?
@alexanderl.6207
@alexanderl.6207 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-dl1bs6lm1g Tibetans are poor for now cause most of them were serfs during the dali lama’s reign 😂😂😂
@qwsong3453
@qwsong3453 Жыл бұрын
In what script were these original documents about Tibet written? Chinese characters?
@liuzhen1220
@liuzhen1220 Жыл бұрын
Firstly, it is important to understand that the recognition of the Panchen Lama and the Dalai Lama by the former Qing Dynasty and subsequent Republic of China government is necessary for them to become religious leaders. The historical status of Tibet as part of Chinese sovereignty is beyond doubt and is an internal affair of China. When you read the abdication edict of the Qing Emperor, it becomes clear that the Qing government transferred power to the Republic government, and the first president of the Republic was the former Qing Prime Minister, Yuan Shikai. Later, the Communist Party of China overthrew the Nationalist government and established a new country. At that time, the Dalai Lama and Tibetan officials even went to Beijing for a "pilgrimage". I would like to emphasize here that the Communist Party of China overthrew the Nationalist government because the CCP was once the most significant political participant in the Republic of China, with a considerable number of CCP members being military and political officials. The major military leaders of the CCP also graduated from the most important military academy of the Republic of China, the Huangpu Military Academy.
@prateeksharma6706
@prateeksharma6706 Жыл бұрын
Anything is better than a genocide being committed by CCP against Tibet and Xinjiang
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