How China Annexed Tibet - Cold War DOCUMENTARY

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[@unifieddynasty]

Considering no western countries had diplomatic recognition of Tibet as separate from China, it's a rather moot point to say that western countries viewed it as an 'invasion and occupation'.

[@Raufi1917]

Up until now there was no official statement even by the UN that China is "occupying“ Tibet

[@rlai2201]

We all must stand against western views and their imperialism mindset, invasion, colonialism, and occupation! We are done with the West!

[@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323]

In fact it was a invasion and occupation. Just not technically and it was a landlocked nation that was in the process of independence but got botched by party affiliates in its government and the Chinese seeing a opportunity to quickly Occupy the nation before it got admitted into the UN.

[@unifieddynasty]

@@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323 When zero countries in the world recognized Tibet as separate from China, it was not "in fact" an invasion and occupation. Your username is a sufficient refutation of your own assertion. Who are you? Clearly your words hold less weight than the entirety of the world's diplomacy.

[@mikel1338]

If GB didnt recognise Tibet... howd they go and sign agreements with Tibet?

[@bigcat9185]

It is interesting to see Tibet from Western perspective. Hope to see an episode on “How US Annexed Hawaii?”

[@charleslizz4007]

Same

[@huiwei9898]

Funny. It was history that British Empire agitated Tibet interest group for independence, and Britain fabricated Simla Agreement. Of course, Britain and Tibet local interest group signed on it. It is absurd this video’s author repeatedly mentioned this Simla agreement, as if this were a legal binding document. Simply British Empire just wanted, at that time, to annex Tibet from China, and put it as an autonomous state in a transitional period. End of day, Britain dreamed of merging Tibet into British India. But that is a dream only. Will never happen. In short, I am more than happy to see Scotland, as well as Northern Ireland to break from UK. Should be able to witness this.

[@_ben.]

It happened in the 19th century, so I'm not sure you'd see it on this channel.

[@sibaraku2023]

and Taxes, and New Mexico, and Califonia. Hope they could all go free one day and back to Mexico.😂😂😂😂😂

[@raideepu4]

Texas too

[@shatterquartz]

Whichever side won the Chinese civil war, Tibet would have been returned to Chinese rule. This was something both the Nationalists and the Communists were in agreeement about (in fact the Communists were less ardently irredentist than the Nationalists, since they at least accepted the independence of Outer Mongolia).

[@helloworld0609]

The 1950 invasion was a continuation of the civil war between the ROC and PRC.

[@Roachh2877]

Fun fact:- Taiwan still lays claims on large parts of India, Nepal and Bhutan.

[@tym7267]

@@Roachh2877 more like ROC, which governs/occupies Taiwan(depending on your political stance), claims on large parts of India, Nepal and Bhutan

[@navinkumarpk86]

They had no choice in the matter on Outer Mongolia - anything else would have seen Mao's gang smashed by Stalin

[@riverman6462]

The only reason the CCP was less irredentist is because Mongolia at the time was ruled by a Soviet Communist puppet. The ROC saw Soviet influence in Mongolia as an expansion into rightful Chinese territories. Sometimes it's important to notice history from the historical lens of their times. I am willing to bet that Mao would've tried to claim or even expand into Outer Mongolia , had it was the Russian Empire that installed a puppet there.

[@snhjhkvd]

2:38 That's not Empress Longyu, that's Empress Cixi who died couple years prior to 1912.

[@lightsleeper.]

I bet you’re fun at parties

[@m136dalie]

@@lightsleeper. It's a relevant observation

[@lordlee6473]

@@lightsleeper. huh?

[@klumzyee]

@@lightsleeper. is the type of human who watches a historical documentary but opposes accuracy

[@joelsullivan1248]

I thought it was Jackie Chan

[@coryplum5375]

A interesting fact: the 14th Dalai Lama is ethnic Tibetan, but his hometown is Qinghai province. He became the 14th Dalai Lama was under ROC government's gser-bum-skrug-pa rule which was announced by Qianlong Emperor in 1700s to handle the reincarnation system of Dalai Lama.

[@MARKINAU8]

Qinghai and partial Sichuan are pan-tibetan region, so a Qinghaibron Dalai is still considered Tibetan. But yes reincarnated Lama just a play

[@coryplum5375]

@@MARKINAU8 But those region never under Dalai Lama's government, in fact, even today's Tibet region was divided by two parts in old time and Dalai Lama controlled the eastern part, the western part was Panchen Lama in charge. By the way, the 10th Panchen Lama was born in Qinghai province too（100 km away from 14th Dalai Lama's birth place）. And he didn't involved the rebellion of Dalai group. He became Vice chairman of the CPPCC National Committee (similar level as vice premier) twice, and died with cardiac disease in 1989.

[@weishi9804]

@@MARKINAU8 Qinghai was ruled by its Muslim population then.

[@kb.e3762]

@@weishi9804 the hui population came in to Qinghai(Amdo) from Shaanxi and Ningxia sent by the Qing emperor in the 18th century. They were fighting from late 1700's even into the warlord period after the breakdown of Qing empire in the early 1900's....

[@consp51]

There are other high levels of Tibetan monks. Dalai Lama is ranked 3rd. There are 3 more branches.

[@joshuayao6236]

When Sun Yixian established Republic China, is also called 5 ethnicitis Chinese Republic: Han, Manchurian, Mongolian, Hui, Zang(Tibet),

[@tiram12]

Did your red communist Beijing history book told you that?

[@patrickdegenaar9495]

Tibet and Scotland have a very similar history - both came under the dominance of a much more powerful neughbour from the 12th century. Both had periods of independence and periods of subservience/unification since then.

[@dr.woozie7500]

The Scottish didn’t have 98% of its population as serfs in 1959. Scotland doesn’t take human skins and make them into books and lamps. Tibet before annexation was a 17th century monarchical backwater.

[@patrickdegenaar9495]

@@dr.woozie7500 Excellent points! Fully agree! Scotland was a lot more developed from the industrial revolution onwards compared to Tibet.

[@boblim5530]

So shall the global sent volunteers to Scotland to declare independence and break away from UK. Hope to CIA may help as UK no more rule by whites but by an Indian whose roots lead to UK colony India. What is happening to white supremacists? KKK especially from USA?.no offence to Indians,I am not directing at you. I have good friends and brothers from India and Malaysia.

[@culisteven4754]

@@dr.woozie7500 that is why he used the phrase "very similar" not "exactly the same"

[@RaginYak]

​@@patrickdegenaar9495Fully agree? You gotta be kidding me Tibet may not be developed but it masses were were not 'serfs' as Chinese claim to be.

[@canada317]

Subscriber since day one, appreciate it all, keep going.

[@GhostCountries]

Interesting video! And a topic unfortunately forgotten by too many nowadays

[@skeetrix5577]

everyday forgets everything. nobody cares how our pretender in chief lost Afghanistan and 13 marine lives less than a year ago. people just want their Instagrams and newest tech very few give history, even recent history a second thought

[@GhostCountries]

@@skeetrix5577 Unfortunately I think there is some truth to this. At least for many people

[@pagodebregaeforro2803]

The imperialistc western powers were just butthurt that they couldn't divide the region anymore, like a pizza, like they did to China in the Boxers and Opium wars. . So, China's payback and protection time. Analyzing what they've been thru I don't blame them. Did the americans cared about indigenous ppl when they went west!? Did they cared about mexicans when they went south?! No, they took by force and kept spreading their capitalistic colonialism all over Latin America making many banana wars.. So, americans and western ppl cant talk too much as innocents about this tibet-china topic. Dont be hypocritical. If they want something to be undone they should do on the lands they took first. Of course there were tibetans backed up by CIA, they dont waste time and meddle into every corner of the world, imagine if it was the other way around...

[@FlagAnthem]

and when is recalled is justified with the worst imperialist apologetic tone

[@hug4229]

What’s forgotten is how terrible the Dalai Lama was and is. Tibet is better off with China than with him.

[@jlvfr]

On the UK's stance: don't forget they were also worried about Hong Kong. Some feared that any adverse reaction from the UK, agaisnt China, might cause an invasion/anexation of Hong Kong...

[@jlvfr]

@@dragosstanciu9866 it had huge political and social significance, as a bastion of the Empire.

[@Doochos]

@@dragosstanciu9866 trade. it gave them access to China and beyond.

[@xiaoka]

@@dragosstanciu9866 by 1951 less valuable than it was before or would be later… but still valuable.

[@helloworld0609]

@@dragosstanciu9866 Opium wars.

[@jlvfr]

@@Doochos this too.

[@hankhill6707]

I have to say that the thumbnail map of "Tibet" is probably one of most bizarre and inaccurate depictions I've seen of that region. I'm not sure you you randomly have Tibet basically possess the entirety of Qinghai province, and bits of Gansu, Yunnan, Sichuan, Xinjiang as well for no apparent reason. It's like if you wanted to make a map of Ohio but included random parts of Pennsylvania, the entire southern part of Michigan, and part of Illinois and Indiana. Even the Tibetan state that existed briefly in the early 20th century didn't include those borders, it basically just comprised of the current Tibetan autonomous region in China borderwise.

[@SirSamuel_Smith_Squirrel_TheIV]

The map was of the entire Tibetan plateau. Fairly common if you look up “China broken up” or “independant tibet”

[@hankhill6707]

@@SirSamuel_Smith_Squirrel_TheIV it's fairly obvious this map represents Tibet as a political entity, not the geographic Tibetan plateau. Otherwise they could include an even larger part of Xinjiang if so

[@oliet9947]

It’s a map of the Tibetan cultural-linguistic area - ‘Greater Tibet’ (which is why it is projected as the area for an independent Tibet). Sizeable parts of the provinces neighbouring Tibet are or were demographically dominated by Tibetans. I have spent a whole trip travelling around the Tibetan areas of Sichuan province for example.

[@hankhill6707]

@@oliet9947 that's like including Singapore or Vancouver as part of China because large numbers of people of Chinese heritage live there, the thumbnail most likely denotes the political entity of Tibet considering they are using its flag

[@panarchy9450]

@@hankhill6707 When he says that he's talking about how there was once a MAJORITY of Tibetans there. The Chinese are NOT THE MAJORITY in Singapore and Vancouver. Your just trying to find a reason to hate the video.

[@patrickdegenaar9495]

Slight correction: initial dominance came in the 12th century when both china and Tibet were controlled by the Mongols (Yuam dynasty)

[@Leonstuart_]

China has no true claim on Tibet and out of Tibets history which goes back (in terms of people living their as Tibetans) To likely 10, 000 or more years but in "proper" history it goes back for at least 2300 years or even longer depending on various sources but is at least 2300 years (likely longer) Out of Tibets very ancient history of course its had skirmishes invasions and it itself invaded other empires , countries etc (including the Tang dynasty of china But out of Tibets 1000s of years of history only 2 times is their any argument that it was occupied "by china" (pre ccp) One was as you said the Yuan dynasty which absolutely was a foreign ruler over china. Look at the mongol empire map and yuan dynasty was literally just one province (area) of its empire and was ruled by rulers such as Kubla khan and relatives /ancestors and yes it took on court system of china (as it invaded and took it!!) and it took on some aspects of china culture but it was absolutely a foreign ruler and part of the wider mongol empire so absolutely in no way , shape or form can they sue the excuse of the yuan dynasty (not to mention the yuan didnt even really properly fully rule over Tibet in the first place and was a priest patron relationship (even prior to the yuan mongols had some influence in Tibet and vice versa) And even if it was a fully han Chinese empire and even if it did invade and occupy Tibet for 100/150 Years that is no way enough. Then after that was the Han ming who had very little to do with Tibet besides trade and maybe some diplomacy etc and after was again a Non han dynasty from the Manchuria the Jurchen ethnic people or the Manchu Qing dynasty which also was seen as foreign invaders and even more then then mongols took on aspects of the predominant majority han culture but if you read any history you will see much of the han were Not happy being ruled by what they seen as "people from the steppes" and foreign invaders and even so the fact the Manchu Qing dynasty actually ruled over Tibet is also up for debate at best as during that time Tibet seemed to be doing most things itself with almost no Chinese or even Manchurian in Tibet and tibetans making there own decisions for the m most part so maybe like a protectorate state of Qing. Anyway lets just say that both the yuan mongol empire and the Manchu Qing dynasty werent foreign dominators of china (and sorry to say to the Chinese this absolutely 100% must be taken into consideration as whether they can claim Tibet especially in regards to the yuan and even the qing) Anyway lets say that the yuan and Qing were fully han dynasties and lets say both took fully over tibet and ruled tibet (even under those circumstances wouldn't be a claim on Tibet as Tibets history goes back at least 2300 years and you can not say bcos they were invaded and occupied a few times for a few hundred years out of 1000s of years of history with 2 diff dynasties who didnt even rule side by side of each other that even that is a claim that Tibet belongs to china and they know this (and that is even if it wasnt the mongol empire extentsion which ruled over china and Qing who also ruled over china and both didnt even fully rule over Tibet..lets face it Patrick the Chinese have no real historic claims at all whatsoever to any of Tibet (besides from maybe some border regions) many countries have had foreign influence and for much longer then Tibet but for the overwhelming majority of Tibets history it wants under any rule let alone chinas rule ..they know it , we know it , we all know it ..Tashi delek , Tujey che , Böd Gyalo ..and I think this guy video is from a pro china one ..Tibet is occupied by China and almost no Chinese lived in Tibet pre 1950 (except in some border regions) Free Tibet

[@snowlee-ml7rr]

@@Leonstuart_ False information. You are a historical nihilist. I guess you are an Indian. According to your logic, India has no history. Because they are all a history of slavery caused by alien invasions! India has a glorious history of being enslaved by Alexander the Great, Persians, Arabs, Turks, Mongols, Portuguese and British.

[@wheresmyeyebrow1608]

6:17 Man that footage is heartwarming : )

[@xiaoyongguo1133]

Those were upper class tibetan people at the time, pictures of lower class tibetans at the time isn't really heart-warming at all.

[@wheresmyeyebrow1608]

@@xiaoyongguo1133 Yes it was indeed a very unequal society

[@denvergamingzone9766]

​@@xiaoyongguo1133 i think same goes for lower class chinese as well

[@xiaoyongguo1133]

@@denvergamingzone9766 true. I will never say that watching 6:17 is heartwarming.

[@MetalboxwithKanon]

Thankyou for uploading this video, hope you’ll make a video about annexation of Sikkim in near future.

[@Robert_austia]

Annexation of hong kong too As #free_hong_kong😊😊 And Sikkim belongs to great INDIA only

[@denvergamingzone9766]

Average bat eater🙂

[@MetalboxwithKanon]

@@denvergamingzone9766 here in Sikkim we don’t eat bat, but beef surely.

[@denvergamingzone9766]

@@MetalboxwithKanon Average BATMAN🦇

[@poetaetoe8833]

kashmir too!!

[@jonnyboy8143]

Very educational, thank you.

[@catalinodominguez3919]

Thank you boss for this help in keeping us updated, thank you very much

[@magellantv]

This was such an informative and phenomenally well done video!

[@Game_Hero]

wow, I didn't knew MagellanTV had a youtube channel. And thanks for supporting history channels.

[@magellantv]

@@Game_Hero History is so important - it's our pleasure!

[@lightsleeper.]

SHUT UP

[@lightsleeper.]

@@Game_Hero shut up

[@user-yb6km4kh1o]

According to the logic of Westerners, there is no country or region that should not be independent. The United States is a new country established by European pirates who exterminated the aborigines and invaded their land. Scotland and Northern Ireland in the United Kingdom were first slaughtered by the Anglo-Saxons through war and then colonized for a long time.

[@aasemahsan]

1:51 Fall of the Qing dynasty following revolts led by Sun Yat Sen 2:41 Sentiments in Tibet & Simla convention 4:51 Events following CCP's victory in Chinese Civil War 5:39 Negotiations 7:03 Battle of Chamdo (China attacks Tibet) 11:21 Tibet forced back to the negotiation table Use of divination 13:12 Tibet's plea to UN 14:54 Further negotiations & the acceptance of a 17 point agreement by the Dalai Lama 17:29 Tibetan rebellion & consequences

[@dl2415]

Thanks

[@mewscathayen6818]

It's a Territory of China and has an English name just like Canton .not an independent country since the Qin dynasty of China, The ROC is busied with civil war &&World ii&& a new civil war until the 1950th. And Dalai isn't the only Buddhist least of Tibet,5 million?. the west doesn't understand the Chinese civil war logic which lasted two thousand years that's why many Chinese people don't like them, and both fire at their boats when they want to split china with RPC and ROC by the Yangzi River, intervals other Country's internal affairs. I'm shocked it declared to be a document channel, neglecting many things with no respect and breed traitors is easy but this will help increase Chinese nationalism. and then you nuke them out and declared the Chinese start world war to the whole world? First, the Qing dynasty of the Chinese is the Chinese then The ROC is the Chinese, now ROC is not Chinese, Obviously the Cantonese is not Chinese too in the future. thanks to god's people, they just need a logic to cover their unti_mankind crime invasion of India of America.

[@willkim4798]

China does not recognize it, just as Czechoslovakia does not recognize the Munich agreement Because it was only signed by the representatives of Britain and Tibet

[@ArnoldTeras]

@@willkim4798 But China did not control that territory functionally for many decades...which means that its territorial claims under MODERN international law are tenuous at best.

[@mewscathayen6818]

@Frankenstein I'm not like CCP ,They looks more and more like TMD partywhich they revoluted , one hundred years ago, and now it's in Taiwan

[@marinm6516]

Super presentation.

[@michaelmakowsky]

Very interesting , thank you so much for the updates please 🥺

[@fr9714]

Finally an unbiased video which actually presented facts instead of spin and bias.

[@basichistory]

Could you do a follow up episode on Tibet? I found this very informative.

[@bitterballs356]

Yes they were liberated from dalai lama who skinned villagers

[@NYATRI]

@@bitterballs356 what when

[@tenzingyuthok8078]

@@bitterballs356 why would you say something like that?

[@tho_norlha]

@@bitterballs356 lol you are imprisoned by ignorance, I pity you. 99.9% of Tibetans have full faith in his Holiness the Dalaï Lama

[@ChrisHilgenberg]

@@bitterballs356 why did you fall into the Chinese propaganda stance that the Tibetans were savages so they needed to be modernized and civilized? You do realize shit like this is Chinese bullshit right?

[@1p4142136]

Love the ending quote

[@PP266]

Great video! Didn't know 80% of the things here explained.

[@colin8696908]

I wrote a paper on Tibet years ago when I was in college, one thing I remember is that prior to the Chinese invasion about 50% of the land was actually owned by the monasteries. So it was inevitable that the Chinese government would have a lot of friction with Buddhism.

[@pettahify]

The same type of wealth and land transfer from religious ownership to secular happened in protestant countries hundreds of years ago. It's not weird, it's logical. Secular ownership typically encourages innovation and efficiency and thus more than religious ownership. This can be seen throughout history.

[@weigao9430]

Surprised by your interest in Tibet. But I don't think it's a conflict between the Communist Party and Buddhism because the Communist Party doesn't want to destroy the Dalai Lama. but wants an agricultural revolution that is a class struggle

[@charleschoy2327]

before 1950, 95% of Tibetans were serfs of the Lamas. A few Lamas and rich landlords owns everything.

[@DK-yz9xk]

Smart man, do some research Tibet was ruled by the noble caste and the monks led by the “divine Dalai Lama” mind you the Dalai Lama was selected by the nobles 😂 that’s how they reincarnated. Anyway back in the serf day, the monks and nobles went mad, the way the punished their serfs was worse than demons, including skinning baby’s from the bottom half, using seed bones as musical instruments, and using skins to write sutras 😂. Ask the Dalai Lama what happens to the serfs when they get back in power? These faction rebelled against the Chinese gov, and the Chinese liberated the serfs. Go to Tibet and see the musuems, you will be shocked and disgusted at how they twisted Buddhas philosophy. Disgusting demons

[@yudogcome5901]

If you have heard of the atrocities committed by Tibetan slave owners and the horrific religious ceremonies, you will feel that the black slaves who grew cotton in the United States in the 19th century were all happy.

[@stingray4988]

3:37 How about China signs an independent treaty with Scotland recognizing its independence disregarding London's opinion? Ridiculous.

[@Kianquenseda]

Thank you

[@MyUrbanExplorationOnline]

Nice video. When will this channel covered The Great Emu War?

[@decem_sagittae]

Finally a good video again!!!

[@mrmr446]

Strategically only the Indian armed forces had any ability to intervene but would still have been at a disadvantage to the Chinese logistically and there was no appetite for war with its' most powerful neighbour. The independence of Tibet lasted less than a century and was due to internal problems within China.

[@armchairwarrior963]

Not all of Tibet. Only Dali Lama parts. There is a Panchen Lama. His lands are not Dali Lama's. Tibet is not a nation, but a feudal state. With Dual Lama's. It's like having Two Popes.

[@rumrunner8019]

@@armchairwarrior963 It depended on when and where. Tibet was run by various kings and religious authorities, but local leaders always had the most say.

[@rumrunner8019]

Tibet was independent for most of its history. It was ruled by Yuan, the Mongol dynasty that also ruled China, but it was never ruled by China directly until the invasion. Before that Tibet was just a vassal state that paid tribute to China but that was about it.

[@TURBOBLU-fx6mn]

@@oceanwave4502 hello CCP bot

[@Jacob-nc1sb]

@@oceanwave4502 ccp bot detected

[@gutsikkyamo8426]

Awesome

[@InferKnow]

Love this coverage on Tibet, I’d like to suggest also covering the other Indo-Pakistan wars as they aren’t covered much elsewhere and would be interesting to see.

[@klumzyee]

they already have a video on it

[@InferKnow]

@@klumzyee There we’re multiple I thought.

[@EvansdiAl]

@@InferKnow were*

[@InferKnow]

@@EvansdiAl Thank you for fixing my grammar good sir, I’m sure it wasn’t intended to be a smartA remark

[@EvansdiAl]

@@InferKnow not at all, you are a fellow internet gentleman, and those who correct grammar as part of denigrating or argument are just ad hominems

[@rosswebster7877]

Well done Cold War Team! I’ve been waiting for a Tibet video for a while now and you did not disappoint! Fun fact: CIA backed Tibetan guerrillas were trained at Fort Hale on the outskirts of Leadville in my home state of Colorado where the famed 10th Mountain Division of WWII was trained. I hope you’ll check back in on Tibet in a future video!

[@jasonjean2901]

Interestingly, according to declassified CIA documents, from 1957-1962, the CIA airdropped 20 teams of trained terrorists from Fort Hale into Tibet. Of all these teams, 19 of them were all captured or killed within two weeks. The one remaining team managed to evade the PLA for two years before simply fleeing Tibet, having done nothing other than run from the PLA troops the entire time. What is fascinating about this history is that, it simply could not have been accomplished without Tibetans themselves being extremely hostile to these terrorists and working with the PLA to capture or kill them. They were obviously unable to get any assistance from the Tibetans living in Tibet, which tells you a lot about what the Tibetans who actually live in Tibet think about U.S. attempts to destabilize their homeland.

[@nietzscheanpeoplespower6078]

@@jasonjean2901 True. The narrative of the Cold War Team and its viewers are utterly devoid of the concept of class struggle being biased towards its western side of the ideological concept. They make it so there is no distinction between the oppressed peasantry of Tibet that supported the PLA and the theocratic Budhists elite that are used paradoxically by the CIA as a justification to fight against a revolutionary liberation army of a then anti imperialist nation. Its a well made video but the bias is to much as if the Cold War was still present.

[@user-hi9kk1gt9t]

I personally hope that the Chinese government can fund right-wing white supremacist militias in the United States, I hope white people can overthrow the black American Democratic government。it is morally correct

[@alexlo7708]

@@jasonjean2901 My auntie who married to son of a brass HongKong police who colluding in heroin drug trafficking in CIA circle from Thailand to HK and then distributed to Europe and US. Her father in law also was helped by CIA fledding to Colorado change his name and biography evaded the Brit newly set up ICAC cracked down on those big event police corruption in HK then.

[@lordlee6473]

CIA is one of the biggest criminal organizations out there. It’s not Fort Hale, it’s Camp Hale. Most of Tibetan refugees live in Boulder CO.

[@alexandrovics5779]

Great video! I think it could have been improved slightly if the map showing Chinese advances would have included some more topographical features than just rivers, so the moves are a little bit more sense. Nonetheless it's a great and super interesting video!

[@TheNobleFive]

A lot of comments here are dedicated to this "what about the west" angle but I always thought that was strange. As someone in the US I'm well aware of what the west has done to expand its power through colonialism and other acts, and almost everyone I know in person is aware as well. Ironically, that makes me all the more familiar with this kind of deflection, where instead of giving an actual assessment of what they saw or felt in the lesson, people attempt to deflect to things other nations have done instead. The whole world has some "unfair", inhumane, and brutal series of events that has led it to the present. Saying "what about x country" is a bit pointless.

[@ruifenghuang1029]

I suppose the "whataboutism" came about because non-Western people find that a Western person making such criticism is hypocritical, given the history of Western nations.

[@ronvara2929]

the difference is: Tibet was part of China since 1700. so it was more like a separatists movement. a good comparison would be the US civil war. would you say the north invaded and annexed the south when they wanted to be an independent country?

[@theuncomfortabletruth8348]

It is not about whataboutism. It is about justice. Germany faced justice. Japan faced justice in the form of 2 nuclear detonation. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Cuba and many more are still waiting for justice to be serve. Instead the criminals are deflecting their own crime to avoid justice.

[@tiram12]

The comments are from Beijing paid wumaos . That's why. They don't want the world to know the truth, just like they have rewritten truth in China about their history.

[@agent74113]

i will always appreciate the subtle fallout references in your office set.

[@CannibaLouiST]

would be interesting if one day someone make a cultural revolution channel and make it under the format just like the WW1 and WW2 channels. that's ten years though

[@kidd32888]

Hell on earth

[@TheCimbrianBull]

Indy Neidell would like a word with you!

[@Wustenfuchs109]

Like most things in history, this one is gray. PRC was anything but mild and friendly to Tibet and its population, yet, at the same time, they did develop the region quite a bit and ended one of the last medieval-style feudal serfdom domains in the world. They destroyed hundreds (if not thousands) of ancient Tibetan monasteries, yet they also refurbished many and provided funds for hundreds that were in disrepair and decades (sometimes centuries) of neglect to be restored and protected. They fought hard against Tibetan theocracy, yes, but consider that the Tibet and its culture we know in the world today is actually the one we accessed after the Chinese civil war. Tibet we mostly know and love is the one brought to us by PRC... that we say destroyed their culture and identity. And, as people have stated, Tibet wasn't actually an independent country at that time, at least no one except Mongolia recognized it as such (iirc). Similar to Abkhazia today. So when PRC came in the 1950's, they were, in legal terms, reasserting the control of the central government over a breakaway province. Yet, Tibet proclaimed independence, but no one considered it as an independent state. To the world, it was just another rebellious province of Republic of China after the fall of Qing empire. No one cared then... why care now? Except on the ideological basis, because the west hates anything that has socialist or communist in its name. Neither Qing nor RoC were any milder of friendlier towards Tibet, yet we never see them in the same light as PRC. That's hypocrisy on our part. Long story short, this is one of the countless examples where history is not black and white and when people arguing a certain point are both right and wrong at the same time. So in the end, it becomes a subjective thing - which is not something you should be doing when something supposedly scientific and factual should be discussed. The best we can do is to simply tell EVERYTHING that happened and leave it at that, refraining from moral (subjective) judgement. Just present the facts and leave it at that.

[@Wustenfuchs109]

@@sosoable Oh, you think Chinese did not do some of their own slaughtering at the same time? Really, how do you think China got that big? :) Chinese history is full of mass slaughter and exterminations, unfortunately.

[@herondesign4507]

This is a documentary filmed by the United States during World War II. Please check the map of China in the 2.30-second video to see if Tibet is within the territory of China. Your ability to lie is disgusting kzbin.info/www/bejne/opazaKeNbsiDa80

[@walhdamaskus2408]

Thats exactly. This vlogger is apart of CIA funded project to blackpaint china. Hope Hawaiji and many US occupied region/states will gain back their independency in future.

[@iamafishonland]

They destroyed majority of the monasteries and used the destroyed religious artifacts to build roads. They only refurbished monasteries once they learned the international interest in tourism in Tibet. You said this isn’t black and white and yet continued to spew what the CCP always says.

[@unclefrankindia]

Awesome please keep this up

[@user-gg8eh5gt3j]

At 5:19 there is a digitised letter document shown. Does anyone know where on the web this is from?

[@chickaboomboom2726]

MAKE SURE YOU PRODUCE A VIDEO ON HOW INDIA ANNEX SOUTH TIBET

[@mohitshrivastava5412]

It was always part of India stfu

[@ilmakhanafridi9396]

Next video would be Xijiang annexation by China

[@chickaboomboom2726]

@@ilmakhanafridi9396 XINJIANG IS THE OLDEST PART OF CHINA SO GOOD LUCK WITH THAT TROUBLE MAKER

[@chickaboomboom2726]

DONT STOP THERE DO A VIDEO ON HOW INDIA ANNEXED KASHMIR. AND INDIA TRIES TO ANNEX SRI LANKA MALDIVES AND BANGLADESH

[@ilmakhanafridi9396]

@@chickaboomboom2726 efgin HAN KASHMIR IS THE PLACE FROM HINDUISM HAD ORIGINATED, IT'S THE MOST ANCIENT PART OF INDIA NEXT VIDEO SHOULD FOCUS ON CHINESE ATTEMPTS TO ANNEX TAIWAN, HONG KONG, MACAU, MONGOLIA,VIETNAM, TAJIKISTAN, MYANMAR AND BHUTAN

[@andreadaleyutronebel5894]

All of US was 'annexed' from the native folks. And SW was annexed from Mexico. Alaska was first annexed from Eskimos by Russians, then by US who bought it.

[@-JA-]

Thank you.

[@blackittysamurai]

America would have stopped it, but Tibet doesn't have any oil.

[@samzhang4847]

Xizang before 1949 was not a de facto independent state; it was more like a warlord, similar to other warlords in China at the same time. For example, Zhang Zuolin was a warlord in Northeast China, Yan Xishan was a warlord in Shanxi province, and even the GMT government in Guangdong province could be considered a warlord, since the central government was based in Beijing at that time. All warlords had their own armies, independent from the central government's army. Zhang, Yan, and the GMT government all signed many treaties with foreign governments independently, just like the Dalai Lama's government did in Xizang. The GMT government even imported many USSR army officers and signed a treaty for weapons aid from the USSR for the GMT army.

[@lifetimecode9527]

These people have been brainwashed they don't really want to know the truth. They just want to get some information to strengthen what they have been brainwashed for. No matter how much evidence you gave them, they don't care and will just insist Tibet was independent, Tibetans are oppressed and need to be "freed"

[@coolb359]

Tibet was also known for practice of slavery up until the 1950s with extreme torture and grotesque human rights abuse.

[@213kilacali]

Evidence? Or that’s what they teach in Chinese schools?

[@coolb359]

@@213kilacali It's called Google, if you can afford it look it up yourself lol

[@hutlazzz]

damn now I want to know more... more video pls !! lol

[@georgeeagle872]

The Cold War. This guy does have a cold war mentality.

[@Numba003]

I would enjoy more videos about Tibet. I know very little about the region and its history. Thank you for another interesting video! Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)

[@Hzhh91]

Sadly, they cover up the historical truth with shrewd rhetoric. They won't tell you that Tibet at that time was a feudal country hundreds of years behind the world, and the commoners were just slaves of the nobles. An important reason for the PLA's occupation of Tibet without much resistance was the hatred of the civilian population for the ruling class. You should not learn about Tibet from white people who have never been to Tibet.

[@Numba003]

@@Hzhh91 Hello! As I mentioned above, I unfortunately know very little about Tibet. Could you send me a source for your info that I could read?

[@Hzhh91]

@@Numba003 It's a pity that all the books I'd like to recommend to you are in Chinese. I'm not sure you can read it. 书名：《西藏历史问题研究》 作者：张云 Title: A Study of Tibetan History by Zhang Yun 书名：《解放西藏史》 作者：《解放西藏史》编委会 Title: History of the Liberation of Tibet - this book is written by the Communist Party, but it also gives a sense of the state of the old regime in Tibet at the time.

[@Numba003]

@@Hzhh91 If nothing else, I can try to look them up and see about possible translations. Thank you very much for the recommendations.

[@sinoleao]

All media makers have their own biases, it's better to travel to tibet and learn the truth from the local tibet ppls.

[@mairepcod4063]

Thanks,

[@kerryannegarnick1846]

“For the Tibetan people it was an invasion and an occupation”? Nah 95%+ of Tibetans were serfs and the vast majority of Tibetans supported the Chinese abolition of serfdom.

[@DunLiu0]

I don't get it after 3:35. Why British matters? Can California claim independent if it sign a deal with China or Russia?

[@tiram12]

KZbin is blocked in China why you commenting here?

[@christopherconard2831]

Through divination a voice spoke to me. It said "Don't forget the like button".

[@stacy5625]

Tibet became a part of China since more than 700 years ago,which is more than 2 time of American history😂😂

[@tiram12]

China occupied Tibet in 1950 and killed millions of tibetians as well burned and destroyed most of their monasteries. FACTS.

[@MaidenUtah1]

Good post. Can you do one on the employment of former Nazis in both the East and the West after WWII? Thanks.

[@bryannelson9380]

There are already two videos on that topic on this channel

[@jankowal115]

With this video comes an interesting episode where you can describe the uprising in Tibet and the subsequent war in the Himalayas between India and China. Lots of interesting political and military events, but one thing is missing from you. Little has been discussed about decolonization and Africa in general. I have a question, when will you finally start getting into the subject of South Africa and Rhodesia, very important players of the Cold War?

[@Game_Hero]

I'd love something about its nuclear program. But they did talk about Kenya and Algeria.

[@jankowal115]

@@Game_Hero Don't get me wrong, the nuclear topic is very interesting, and there have also been a whole lot of movies about it, but the topic of South Africa and Rhodesia is interesting because it is a story of those proxy wars, and not on a small scale as it might seem.

[@linshitaolst4936]

The uprising in Tibet? Do you mean that the slave lords and nobles hoped to continue the serfdom tradition and launched riots? During the armed conflict between the Communist Party and the Indian army, Tibetan herdsmen used their yaks to transport a large amount of supplies to the pla, and the Communist Party was very popular among the grassroots people

[@jankowal115]

@@linshitaolst4936 I didn't know that exactly. Very nice and interesting comment my friend. Apparently, the situation of Tibet is shown differently in other parts of the world.

[@randy2819]

@@jankowal115 How many temps and interns are willing to fight and die for their employees ? Tibet was mostly a feudal society, which basicly means most people were treated worse than temps and interns. There always been more peasants than fancy lords, sure fancy lords look great on tv and netflix, but they are all cunts, in tibet or elsewhere, in the past, present and future. That is untill I have become a lord, then you all should fight for my lands and defend it with my life, because I am some lama lord something.

[@wetot2]

Actually the hidden and unique connection between Beijing & Moscow was the Mongol Khanate Commonwealth

[@sakyikars6910]

If anyone is interested in reading what a native perspective of Tibet looks like, I’m more than happy to convince how Tibet was illegally occupied by CCP and how the history was rewritten in such a distorted manner.

[@MrDnong]

are you interested in what scots think?

[@yetimelly523]

You history youtubers are finally taking my advice by showing mostly video and images of the subject and not mostly video of your talking face. Bravo!

[@varana]

The problem with that is that, in many cases, there are simply too few "video and images of the subject" available to fill the video. There were not that many film crews in Tibet in the 50s... and showing completely unrelated footage from some other time somewhere in or near Tibet, isn't actually about "the subject" anymore.

[@yetimelly523]

@@varana Abimation works. There are movies about China takeover of Tibet. Thanks

[@varana]

@@yetimelly523 But movies are not historical imagery. I don't know about movies specifically on this topic (i.e. Tibet), but movies in the historical areas where i am slightly knowledgeable, are often just wrong or simply ridiculous when depicting those times. And they present a certain narrative - you get that with historical images as well, but with movies, it's guaranteed. Plus, there's usually copyright to get around.

[@yetimelly523]

@@varana Possible to show snippets of movies or animate from the movie. Simple.

[@eggrollsoup]

@@yetimelly523 no, movies have too many inaccuracies

[@ronchristiantenala4056]

I remember the movie of Brad Pitt titled Seven Years in Tibet because of this.

[@greatasia606]

A bit of Chinese history for sheep out there: Tibet became a part of China in the mid of 13th century. In order to effectively govern Tibet, the job of Dalai Lama was created by the then ruler of Yuan dynasty (1271AD-1368AD). As this time, Europeans had yet to arrive at America, so the genocide of native Americans had not started yet. Ha ha ha!

[@Raufi1917]

Absolutely propaganda rubbish. Harter was a Nazi, SS even, who fled British pow camps and escaped to Tibet. Before that, Himmler himself signed the documents for Harrer‘s marriage

[@user-yb6km4kh1o]

According to the logic of Westerners, there is no country or region that should not be independent. The United States is a new country established by European pirates who exterminated the aborigines and invaded their land. Scotland and Northern Ireland in the United Kingdom were first slaughtered by the Anglo-Saxons through war and then colonized for a long time.

[@stevecariggillio4139]

20 points have been added to your social credit score. We at the CCP appreciate your work wu-mao.

[@lanlantulan]

The movie was just a propaganda movie.

[@TSRHelios]

It's very biased video, though very subtly, by using the terms like annexation, invasion, and the like. Tibet was under the Qing empire so thus is a part of China, be it ROC or PRC. A similar hypothetical scenario would be, let's say during WWII while Britain is busy fighting all the internal and external threats and Scottland decided to be their own for good. Then, after the war England has decided to take it back, would that be "annexation and invasion"? It's double standard as usual, from a Westerner POV (I can do it but you don't).

[@bakthihapuarachchi3447]

Ironically almost the exact same thing did happen. After the British Empire was weakened during World War One, Ireland declared it's independence. Britain tried to reconquer the region, but the international community recognized Ireland and eventually forced Britain to make peace. So yes, what you described happened almost exactly, with Scotland swapped with Ireland

[@TSRHelios]

@@bakthihapuarachchi3447 Well but is there Western media calling that annexation and invasion? Moreover, British's failure doesn't mean everyone else has to follow. If we follow the list, there are many more we can go on like Basque, Britanny and etc. There will be chaos.

[@alexandrechen3081]

The image shown at 2:30 is for Empress Dowager Cixi, not Empress Dowager Longyu

[@babahanuman83]

historical fact is that china took tibet in 1720 from mongols. and since then tibet is part of china as it was part of mongolia in the predecessing 600 years. and fact is also that more than 90% of tibetan population nowadays are happy to be part of china.

[@bizbe4465]

Okay. Give your lands back to Mongolia then. With that logic you are no longer chinese. You are now apart of the Mongolian empire congrats.

[@rjhernandez02]

El Salvador offering their support despite being thousands of kilometers away and sharing virtually nothing in common with the Tibetans tho

[@DK-yz9xk]

Lmao El Salvador is a failed country, who gives a f

[@zhaomengyu028]

would you make a video about india and sikkim plz?

[@denvergamingzone9766]

hungry for bats???😋

[@keungpang2176]

Question. Did any of the western countries ever reconized Tibet or had a embassy in lhasa.

[@janlindtner305]

Sad story, i miss the rest to this day.

[@user-pp9pu6qo7j]

You actually means anybody who are strong enough can be independent. Well, it is the same vice versa.

[@SCP-5000]

Applying the framework of modern customary law to "China's" relationship with Tibet is anachronistic. China was not a signatory of the treaty of Westphalia. In the eye of the Chinese court, their relationship to Tibet was one of ownership.

[@bizu08]

and yet Tibet has a different religion, different customs, different language. And a full population that did NOT want Chinese annexation. China's desire to annex it was ITS problem. Not Tibet's, not the World's

[@NBll666]

​@@bizu08 😂你这说法真是搞笑

[@charleslizz4007]

@@bizu08 I don't think you have any idea how Tibetans suffered at that time period under the rule of aristocracy, and you wouldn't know if "a full population that did not want Chinese annexation." The people who were rejecting Chinese rule were the aristocracy who were afraid of being overturned and they clearly didn't give a damn about their own people.

[@user-yb6km4kh1o]

According to the logic of Westerners, there is no country or region that should not be independent. The United States is a new country established by European pirates who exterminated the aborigines and invaded their land. Scotland and Northern Ireland in the United Kingdom were first slaughtered by the Anglo-Saxons through war and then colonized for a long time.

[@cs0345]

​@@bizu08 The only people who were adamantly against annexation were the ruling class clergy. And Tibetans suffered more under their own nation-state than they did under communism

[@jerronng6036]

Do A video on Northen Ireland as well. Jamaica n US virgin island n Hawaii. Thk you.

[@hae-meo-sum]

Thanks to remind a subject on Tibetan issue.

[@angps9952]

How about do a " The annexation of the north America by Anglo-Saxion".

[@hangwengjoin9848]

how he dare ? 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄

[@kenweller2032]

Or the annexation of most of the Americas by the Iberian?

[@user-pk6dv4zg5u]

This is imprecise To be precise, the annexation did not occupy North America their numbers are only a small fraction

[@gideonteo5796]

Totally woke and sounds like part of the cold war

[@brianbelgard5988]

I’m sorry, was the annexation and genocide of the American Indian part of the Cold War?

[@yadongzheng4821]

Please do a video about the annex of Texas and Hawaii

[@henrylapp7954]

How would that relate to the Cold War?

[@yadongzheng4821]

@@henrylapp7954 Direct relation to Cold War, No. But from historical development point of view, Yes. Without the westward expansion and the genocide on natives Without the invasion and annexation on so many lands The USA will not be such a powerful coastal to coastal nation with so massive land and resources that is capable of threating the world In this case, if they only preserve its original 13 stars, It is hard to believe the Cold War could happen 100 years later Anyway, all hypothetical, no one cares

[@Game_Hero]

@@henrylapp7954 It's not, a CCP bot is triggered and do the usual reaction : a whataboutism.

[@yulp1]

Is “what about America?” The first thing they teach you in Chinese schools?

[@yadongzheng4821]

Yes mate, since they gave lessons for what is called "rule-based orders". You need to know what they have done in history

[@user-st3im5ge7f]

Tibet belonged to China from Yuan Dynasty in 11 centuries.

[@joeyxu469]

The Dalai Lama liked the video and stuck out his tongue :face_with_tongue:

[@davesthrowawayacc1162]

Annexation of a region's quite easy when the 95% of the population are serfs who hated the Lama class and their rule

[@FM_1819]

That's some neat propaganda you got there

[@marcl.1346]

[CITATION NEEDED]

[@tomaszzalewski4541]

Nice propaganda there, here have social credit points

[@SD-tn9ce]

it's a more of liberation to 95% of the population if they were serfs.

[@WP-cu2pf]

@@tomaszzalewski4541 luckily west is so democratic, only you can get sacked from job for telling black that he is a black. Other than that is all democracy, see how Trumps free speech was respected, he wasn't banned from Twitter or smh like that.

[@sayantandasgupta9605]

Please also mention how the Chinese kidnapped a child who was assigned the next Dalai Lama.

[@hdm4825]

What is unique tibet social structure? Can you elaborate that?

[@pppzzz1775]

Your skin is very suitable for making Thangka😇

[@user-pr8nr5ix2p]

RUMOURS ARE WICKED, BUT YOU SPREAD IT FOR FUN.

[@ruifenghuang1029]

For fun? For KZbin ads revenue,

[@Kevin-cm5kc]

Man the information here is really good quality but the 'freedom' language is a real pet peeve of mine. The situation is repeatedly described as 'tibet's freedom was under threat' rather than 'tibets independence was under threat'. I mean, you say yourself that it was a feudal society run by the superstitions of theocrats who had the authority to assert what the will of God is. It didn't sound super 'free' for the average peasant whether they got independence or not. Any state that goes independent is still run by a state apparatus that must hold a monopoly on force etc. Separatism doesn't just lead to a lovely eutopia where everyone is 'free'. It's just the same state apparatus but smaller...

[@jasminekaram880]

Free as sovereign. Sure Tibet was no liberal democracy. Well in stateless sedentary mass societies or in societies with very weak none functional state, you have warlords, ma ny actors of violence and clan structures. The rule of law and stability is needed for any civil liberty to exist.

[@prw56]

That's a good point, its a bad thing to lose context like that when remembering history. Though I do think the "freedom" language would be well used to describe how they exist today. Everyone in China who isn't han chinese is having a bad time, let alone the ones in the chinese borderlands, and the average han isn't doing too much better.

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

I disagree with tibet peasant being slaves one. I would like a video on it cause it was one of main cause china invaded. But now those peasants are free are they really free do they like the new authority or would have liked a representative who was elected

[@hwg5039]

@@prw56 this is just pure bullshit, the minorities in China have many privileges, including automatically adding more marks in the college entrance exams, not restricted by the one-child policy and more.

[@revolutionarybishop2352]

@@prw56 that’s simply not true. Minority Chinese get into the same university as Han Chinese but with lower bar to ensure equality. As a Han Chinese I’m super jealous of these non Han Chinese, their culture is well preserved and they are privileged in every aspect of the society.

[@qwsong3453]

In what script were these original documents about Tibet written? Chinese characters?

[@qguan989]

"Free Tibet" is rich, seeing how it was a theocracy.

[@theholocene8094]

Please do the video about Communist Part of Burma (CPB) and relationship with CCP.

[@klumzyee]

they have one

[@theholocene8094]

I think that video is only independent movement of Burma. Kuomintang (Taiwan) invasion of Burma in 1960 and CCP send volunteer forces to fight with CPB are interesting topics in cold war era.

[@andreawallenberger2668]

I was wondering if everyone had forgotten Tibet, just 2 days ago!

[@greatasia606]

Ask daddy America or any European country to produce a document that can be used to prove that Tibet was an independent country. Ha ha ha!

[@andreawallenberger2668]

@@greatasia606 Only after u prove either one is the expert on Tibetan autonomy LOL u troll

[@greatasia606]

@@andreawallenberger2668 Dalai Lama is a post set up by Chinese central government around 700 years ago to govern Tibet. You want to ask the Dalai Lama how he got his job title? Ha ha ha!

[@r0bmc745]

@@greatasia606 I think it's time to partition China again :)

[@hannibalbarca9832]

​@@r0bmc745 you can certainly try, but you will certainly fail to do so

[@Luvinist]

14:21 That's a picture of the Indonesian delegation in the round table conference in the Hague. Pak Hatta what are you doing in this video?

[@user-xs8rg5wf6c]

Why is the Tibet map you displayed incomplete

[@AngelosGT]

Isn't it interesting that history always starts at a time that is always convenient for someone's narrative? How is it possible to ignore hundreds of years of history and start on....1911?🤣

[@calexander7495]

It'd be pretty much impossible to discuss history if we have to go back to the beginning every time. It makes sense to start at the most relevant starting point, even if that means particular historical narratives will likely cherry pick the inception point.

[@AngelosGT]

@@calexander7495 I would agree if it was that simple, but it isn't. China's relations with Tibet and the Mongols, goes back since - I just said it - the Mongols era. If someone leaves out this period, is doing it on purpose just to adjust the narrative to the point that it can go the way he wants it to go. When you choose to "leave out" the previous history, you certainly need to make a quick summary or add some other sources that can be used for anyone who cares to know the whole story behind a "conflict". When they don't, it's not a coincident, but it's on purpose.

[@greatasia606]

Tibet was already a part of China before the founding of many European powers. Is there any document in this world that can be used to prove that Tibet was an independent country? Ha ha ha!

[@AngelosGT]

@@greatasia606 Exactly my point. Even today, West trying to translate the world, using the colonial dictionary. It's not going to work well this time for them. Cancel culture, will destroy the West.

[@TSRHelios]

@@AngelosGT This video is very biased, even from the title itself, losing any academic value. I am not surprised after watching whole video just to conclude that this is a propaganda-like video as I have already sensed the first time I saw its title.

[@jingchengyang8957]

The map in the thumbnail is wrong, "East Turkestan" never existed, it was under the control of Chinese warlord Sheng Shi Chi and later by KMT directly. Also, Tibet wasn't that big either.

[@CannibaLouiST]

East Turkestan was already a term back in 19th century, along with Chinese Tartary.

[@jingchengyang8957]

@@CannibaLouiST But it's only a term, it's not declared as East Turkestan. Labelling it as East Turkestan suggests East Turkestan existed as a political entity, which is not true.

[@CannibaLouiST]

​@@jingchengyang8957 Terminologies alone do deserve an entire episode. In fact, maybe two episodes at least.

[@jingchengyang8957]

@@CannibaLouiST It's not about terminologies, because it's simply wrong to call it so. You can't just call Christian Spain al andalus or Russia as the Soviet Union in modern times. It's important to refer to political entities with proper names at that current time, otherwise you'd probably fail high school history for a start.

[@CannibaLouiST]

​@@jingchengyang8957 Soviet Union was called Russia by many throughout the years to this day. The Roman Empire after the western part fell can be called the Greek Empire/Byzantium/Byzantine Empire. Meanshile, al-Andalus ain't even the formal name of the Caliphates over there. It's of course about terminologies. It's terminologies on top of politics. And East Turkestan, Chinese Tartary aren't the only terms either, there's also the Chinese Turkistan. Translated Chinese terms at the time only give out Sinkiang, Hsin-chiang and more, but not Xinjiang until the 1950s.

[@daniellincoln3744]

El Salvador coming in clutch for a bit!

[@consp51]

Should look it up on Google Maps, You will get a better perspective. Tibet is an isolated region surrounded by high mountains， Separating it from Other countries. Tibet had always kept an affiliated /Sub-state relationship with the Chinese empire. The Lamas also traveled to BJ for consultation and swear loyalties to the emperor. The royal court gives approval and kept records of different Lamas that reincarnated. The same relationship also existed in Korea and Vietnam in the past. Chinese emperor gave approval to the new king. Those relationships where either came to establishments after either cultural influences + border war. It's hard for KZbinr to create a full story without a deep understanding of the background and history.

[@asianooasia6719]

Dalai Lama is mongolian title given to the spiritual bouddism Leader. Dalai = Universal/Oceanic Lama = Monk

[@55jigme]

Most Tibetan have large percentage of Mongolian DNA in them esp . In eastern part of Tibet

[@riza-2396]

And Dalai Lama isn't really a tradition inherit from Tibetan culture, it's really simple, Beijing choose a person to rule Tibet. And the drawing lots thing isn't really about gods, when it was Qianlong emperor of Qing dynasty, Tibetan nobles were asking him to pick a noble's children to be the next dalai lama, Qianlong doesn't really like that nobleman so he just gave them a bottle and say go find a kid from the streets who got luckey

[@user-yb6km4kh1o]

According to the logic of Westerners, there is no country or region that should not be independent. The United States is a new country established by European pirates who exterminated the aborigines and invaded their land. Scotland and Northern Ireland in the United Kingdom were first slaughtered by the Anglo-Saxons through war and then colonized for a long time.

[@thepunisher9259]

Please bring out video on invasion/ annexation of free independent Naga nation by India in the 1950 and the pending solution of the Indo-Naga political issue

[@seanbinkley7363]

Violent conquest

[@julesz7056]

*does an elaborate divination ceremony to appease the algorithm gods*

[@user-ei5lu5op2g]

Their mindset: If I can’t see anyone new, there’s no enemies

[@tyq5775]

Despite its flaws, this video maker's explanation of Tibetan history is the most fair explanation I have seen so far. The author of the video breaks away from the standpoint of ideology and social systems, and his research on historical details is very thorough!

[@_Abjuranax_]

I once saw a U.S. documentary film about the lands of China from the 1930's, which clearly showed Tibet as part of China.

[@CannibaLouiST]

You're probably remembering the WW2 propaganda film series Why We Fight.

[@CannibaLouiST]

And that's Republic of China, not Red China.

[@alexanderl.6207]

@@CannibaLouiST they meant the land of china

[@CannibaLouiST]

@@alexanderl.6207 the PRC didn't exist til 1949.

[@rumrunner8019]

And a Chinese book from the same era clearly shows Cuba as a US territory. So it's okay if the US invades Cuba?

[@MaximGhost]

1949 Tibet: "We'll use peace as our weapon. The newly formed United Nations and western countries will protect our sovereignty." Sinicized Tibet: "Well, that didn't work out as planned."

[@HWDragonborn]

Tibet: Western countries will protect our sovereignty. Poland: you sure about that, bro?

[@gabrielzhu]

Nothing on the slave and special agent involved in this ???