How This Cart Dumper Could Get Your Switch Banned

[@goldensyrupgamingshow2978]

Nintendo can't keep banning legit gamers who bought a used game, they'll have to make a change.

[@TakisEnjoyer]

They'll probably increase security against this thing with patches, but I don't think they bother too much. For them it's gonna be "blame the pirates".

[@nujhumshonda1298]

You are banned, you're fu*ked. Nintendo won't bother you're legit gamer or not... Hol up, legit gamer? 🙄

[@ImaRatMan]

They did the exact same with 3DS cart certificates. Its why everyone switched to digital installs instead.

[@ShiverThermal]

@@TakisEnjoyerMaybe for the Switch 2.

[@lilywerner3847]

They will do that anyways if dumper keep sharing these files.

[@Essu_]

Crazy thing is; this is actually making Nintendo grin from ear to ear because they've been looking for a reason to get rid of the used game market since the 80s.

[@zhaumbie]

Exactly. This is Nintendo's biggest W in a long time

[@TheIrkenEmpire420]

​@spookydooms But eventually that'll turn into an L the moment everyone starts only pirating new games, costing them.

[@zhaumbie]

@@TheIrkenEmpire420 Pirated =/= multiplayer. You take a pirated game online with Nintendo and your console’s severed from the servers immediately. No more online multiplayer for Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, Mario Maker, Smash Bros, Splatoon, Mario Party, whatever other games I can’t think of, and any third-party games like Rocket League, Minecraft, and Fortnite. That’s not a L for Nintendo. They’ll be fine.

[@jadix120]

@@zhaumbie Yeah you get banned from nintendo servers okay big deal but what about the thousands of community servers? Also if you use a switch to play those third parties idk what to say man

[@zhaumbie]

@@jadix120 I guess we’ll see

[@L300-nn]

So you telling me you cannot use used games anymore that is fuckikg crazy

[@Yoshizuyuner]

Apparently is totally fine for some people tho because niche communities or some shit

[@GiftIdeh-cg7id]

Get ready to sued Nintendo brr

[@NormansWorldMovies]

3 or 5?

[@thevessel-real]

yeah thats why i buy fresh copies instead of used copies so i dont have any risks

[@NormansWorldMovies]

5

[@eddiemeddie2018]

What scares me the most about things like this is that companies will probably eventually will lead to just digital only. Making physical copies obsolete. This way the company has a lot more control on games not being able to be pirated.

[@lucasn0tch]

People who cheer on an all-digital future are part of the problem

[@TheLobotomist-t1]

Nintendo has ZERO control over if a game becomes pirated or not. All it takes is ONE person to download the game on a hacked switch, then dump it and put it on the internet.But releasing games digital only does seem like a possibility.

[@joelgarcia3907]

Which scares me the most is that if we do not support developers and companies that give us these good memories by ripping things off, they won’t be around

[@nintendfriendspod]

It’s insane to think that buying used games can essentially get your switch banned. All the folks buying used games because maybe it’s more affordable are really gonna end up getting hurt. Sad day. 😔

[@AlbedoAtoned]

It's actually even worse. I've bought games that were supposed to be brand new only to find out that despite being sealed, somebody had gotten into them and removed things that were supposed to be in them. Some stores have had controversies with opening all of their games and storing the discs/carts elsewhere as well. Meaning it is entirely possible for somebody to go out of their way to buy a new copy, only to find out later through being banned that some employee or something grabbed a used copy that had at one point been dumped, or potentially a new copy that they or another employee had used to dump a copy to upload online.

[@westernllamas]

Oh shit. Well we are cooked.

[@zhaumbie]

Oh yeah, GameStop got into hot water during the 360 era for this with some major releases. And the industry didn’t just stop doing it

[@Brainy1422]

Im not even convinced "buying new" will save you. I dont know if it is still the case, but GameStop used to let you borrow games as a employee perk. The catch is. Said game was then resold as new (there was no evidence as games are not sold sealed). Add in amazon mixing stock with 3rd parties and its a recipe for disaster.

[@name6770]

plus, what if people buy games, dump them, then return them. there's no way to know that your game is safe

[@Shavin25]

us aussie gamers are at risk cuz switch games here don’t come sealed for some reason

[@ccricers]

I first had that experience long ago when buying a "new" Dawn of Sorrow for my DS. Someone had already saved a game on it

[@gamertoon8230]

I love the fact that this device exists. But at the same time this device has made me terrified of buying used Switch games because I’m scared of potentially getting banned.

[@Yoshizuyuner]

You shouldn’t have to be afraid of buying used games at all, but thanks to MiG switch you can randomly get banned as regular people who has no idea why it happened in the first place

[@combopybrosharkfrenforhire6420]

@@Yoshizuyuner (thanks to nintendo)

[@FennecTECH]

Buy an ROG ALLY or Steam Deck and join the PCMR. You wont have to worry about bans or monthly fees.

[@Diddz]

​@FennecTECH do we have online play too? Or is this route offline exclussive? Namely for games that have only online multiplayer and no offline multi

[@FennecTECH]

@@Diddz ROG ally is a computer. It runs steam. You get online play for free from steam. Epic games and everything. It’s just a windows PC in the form factor of a switch.

[@mewnuxwolf]

I guess I won't buy used switch games until the Switch servers shut down. I will not risk getting banned just because I wanted to buy a used game

[@joe_schmoe_420]

So you want to wait until there's no reason to own a switch to buy one....

[@GavinsBazaar313]

​​@@joe_schmoe_420always reason to buy them - I still buy old gamecube and wii games to this day, games that are exclusive to those systems

[@zhaumbie]

Nintendo’s banking on people enjoying Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros, Splatoon, etc. And considering the online multiplayer THE game

[@junaidmughal3806]

It will take more than 10 years considering how popular switch is. Probably would.have switch 3 by then, and switch 1 will look so old school it won't be fun anymore

[@funkyscott47]

In a weird way, Nintendo might like this thing because in a while the used market will be risky, so more people go to brand new copies. Could be an L for people looking for a deal and a W for Nintendo's pockets. Either way, great video, it's nice to be aware of this kind of stuff for the future!

[@NokoPlays01]

True....

[@ActuallyZee]

Well yeah. Remember big companies like Nintendo have no morality, they only care about money.

[@Yoshizuyuner]

Just one of reason to hate on MiG switch

[@zhaumbie]

I wouldn't even say "weird" way, I'd say 100% accurate way We've gotten over 30 years of them hating used sales. This is their biggest win in ages

[@damedus]

Ban over used games is anticonsumer and a huge lawsuit to ninty

[@Alex_Logan22]

Just keep your receipt/proof of purchase in case you get banned. Even if a lot of online communites say they're gonna do XYZ, it's still a less than 1% chance of anyone running into the problem.

[@zhaumbie]

Nintendo has never, ever unbanned a console. They don’t even have an appeals process Give them the receipt. They’ll wipe their ass with it and tell you to buy new

[@Donkeykong77767]

😂😂😂😂​@@zhaumbiehahahahhaahahha

[@SwirlystarsJP]

I always bought used games because I couldn't afford new copies.. this is such a bummer, I wish this wouldn't have to happen

[@BaconFearMC]

When I’m typing this, I haven’t watched this specific video yet, but I have heard Jeff speak on this topic before, so here’s the TLDR version of how this effects you if don’t buy one (take this with a grain of salt) Here’s the scenario: Someone buys a Switch game; (legally, through Amazon, GameStop, etc.). They dump their game with the device shown (completely legally, as Nintendo allegedly allows this for emulators). They then return their game they bought (to Amazon, GameStop, etc.). Then, Amazon, GameStop, etc. sells these games as reused (unaware someone dumped this specific copy, with this specific ID (while for an example, I’ll use 420). The person buys the ID:420 game, (which someone else dumped), then you use the legally bought game on your switch. Nintendo sees, “hey this person is using ID:420 game, but that person (the one who dumped and returned it) has already been using it, so this person (the who bought it reused), but must be hacking. Then they ban the person who just bought it reused… So…… be careful buying used games (or just DONT anymore)…

[@joe_schmoe_420]

They ban both consoles Not just the new one

[@betaswithWack0]

it's kinda funny that people are talking about this NOW that there's a public dumper (that doesn't require additional hacks or glitchchips on the console side), given that I predicted this years ago as soon as people found carts had a signed cart-unique CERT sector. although I was mainly thinking about trolls buying games, dumping CERT (without ever using it in their own console), returning the games, and then uploading the CERTs publicly some time later so N would ban the cart and thus any console using that CERT. i didn't think that people would be stupid enough to buy games, dump them, and return them, with a risk of their OWN console getting banned too if they ever went online with that dumped game later. but i guess i forgot about "think of the average person then realise 50% are dumber than that".

[@Junior-wo7fg]

I’m not gonna lie, during the 3DS era, I did do this (11:38). In my defense these signatures and certifications weren’t around yet and I was pretty young but it was nice to get a $70 eshop card for my Wii U and never have to switch cartridges on my 3DS 🙏

[@BallinBalla]

The new game returns issue is a real concern. How is Nintendo going to make someone whole if they were victims to playing a game that they bought retail that's 100% legit but they were unaware if the game was dumped prior? Considering the mig copy and the real cartridge are identical in every way, how would they tell who has the retail copy in their hands? It seems kinda BS to just outright ban that game certificate without any recourse.

[@joe_schmoe_420]

They ban the console I'd, not the game cert If they just banned the game cert, you'd be fine

[@zhaumbie]

Nintendo has ZERO console banning appeals process. If they bother to put one into motion seven years later for this, I’ll buy a hat and eat it

[@zhaumbie]

They also famously despise used game sales and have never valued customers who participate in them. Not since the ‘80s

[@lukornia]

I preordered a Mig Switch Dumper back in January, I'm convinced it ain't coming unfortunately EDIT: IT ARRIVED TWO DAYS AGO LET'S GOOOOOO

[@GreenLeefMusic]

Yeah I am hearing a lot of people who have ordered in January and still haven't received it, including many KZbinrs. Hopefully just supply chain issue and not scammers. I did hear the mig switch team made a response to this situation that there was a delay and that they were going to reach out to suppliers to let them know that they need to give update emails to people who are still waiting, so hopefully they are sorting it out. That is a long time to wait. Me personally I will wait until the hype slows down and then maybe I will consider getting it.

[@JDactal]

Yeah same for me it’s annoying

[@leafshade3643]

Mine arrived yesterday, pre-ordered day 1.

[@klausschwab11]

I ordered one in January as well. I actually emailed the website I bought it from and they responded back to ensure me that it is still on the way. They could not give me a date but said it will be much sooner than later. I am hoping they are not BSing me. Emailing me back was a good sign though I think.

[@robertrmdgaming4374]

Ordered mine way back. Emailed them to see if they are going to send it. Never got a a reply. Think I got scammed.

[@disneygamerdonut214]

As someone who buys about 75% of my physical games second-hand, I'm really worried about this, I don't want to just suddenly get banned when I haven't done anything wrong, I just bought an official copy of the game and I don't want to have to worry about weather or not I'll be able to use my switch after putting it in.

[@ArtisticCeleste]

Same-I prefer getting my games physical and some of the games I want are kinda hard to find new and sealed these days-their second-hand options are common but now I'm worried about this happening.

[@disneygamerdonut214]

@@ArtisticCeleste I usually go second hand cause it’s cheaper, plus my local second hand shop (CEX) is much less out of the way than my local first hand shop (GAME, in a sports direct, on the outskirts of my city centre).

[@GreenLeefMusic]

This is a really great and very well explained video. 👍🏻 I do have a question about the situation where people might dump used games and sell them back to retailers. Couldn't this have also already been a problem with people using hacked Switches too? They can dump the games as well of course, so I would think this could've already been a potential risk with buying used games, though maybe at a smaller scale since it required hacking and/or modchipping & soldering work. This just also seems like a W for Nintendo as this will scare people away from the used market and force them to buy new, which will make Nintendo and devs more money vs buying used.

[@Cyko..]

The reason why copies downloaded off the internet work on modded Switches is because people who have modded Switches KNOW you don't go online with your emuNAND on your modded Switch. You will get banned. I see what you are saying, and I know that if I made a copy of my game so I could still play it and sell the physical copy to make a profit, I personally would not go online with my dumped copy. Why would I risk getting my own Switch banned? The problem here is that people unknowingly will buy a PHYSICAL copy from a 2nd hand store like eBay, Pawn shop, Game Stop, garage sale, etc of the game and think nothing about it, then go online with their normal unmodded legit Switch and poof, get banned because somewhere out there on the internets somebody else went online with a copy that had the same certificates like he mentioned in this video of the physical game.

[@DammitJeff]

People with hacked switches have plugins designed to block all connections with online servers. They’re sandboxed in a way that doesn’t touch the outside world. The difference now is, these tools don’t need a hacked switch. Meaning anyone that connects to online servers can use them. Even stock devices.

[@gregjarvis1232]

So do you need to hookup to a stealth server like the xbox360 as well as the plugins to not get banned online witha modded switch

[@rockapartie]

The major difference is: Game backups for modded Switches don't contain anything that ties them to a unique source. Even if you go online with a cartridge rip (that's now an E-Shop install on your modded Switch), Nintendo can only tell that you're playing something that your account never bought (by circumventing the DRM on a system level) and will ban your system, but they can't tell where the game came from. Original cartridges are completely unaffected; shared E-Shop downloads can't be traced back to the original buyer as well. The situation is different with MIG Switch, which requires the distribution of unique cartridge certificates.

[@Nokout21]

Back in the PS1 days, I knew guys who would rent from blockbuster just to rip games then sell the copies for five dollars a pop. I'm surprised this is still going on.

[@rockapartie]

Of course it is, especially with Nintendo games rarely getting significant discounts, crazy inflation in many countries in recent years, and whole continents with ludicrous game pricing. Circumventing copy protections has significantly slowed down in the last decade or so though, especially after Sony Computer Entertainment America, Inc. v. Hotz ("GeoHot", famous iPhone and PS3 hacker and somewhat of a "mad scientist" ^^) and the DMCA and its EU equivalent. Heck, they even went after Voksi (the only known Denuvo hacker at the time) in Bulgaria of all places. Many hacking brainiacs work for big corporations these days and only collect bug bounties for consoles and other DRM protected stuff, e.g. Andy "TheFlow0" Nguyen, who discovered countless PS4 and PS5 vulnerabilities, but only ever disclosed them after they've been patched.

[@leatherhidegaming]

At least a modchip was required back then cause the authentication method on the disc was never replicated.

[@HeiseiWasTaken]

I really dislike y'all, most people doing this protects himself in the never ending discourse that "Nintendo is greedy" "Piracy is morally okay if its nintendo" but this has no salvation, if you dump games you don't own and let other people switches get banned, you don't care about morals, heck even about your own community, if you do this you are supporting nintendo, because now people will try to buy new replacement switches and avoid used games and buy the full new game copy that goes directly to nintendo as a new sale, don't be a disappointment to everyone, doing this might result on you getting something for free, but what about others?? I'm so mad to this, let's hope at least people will no actually try this because the will need to buy used games and maybe they get a copy that was already used like this and they get banned, womp womp

[@Yoshizuyuner]

It really just hurts the regular people, these are the type of people that has no morals at all, but keep blaming Nintendo on their own behavior. It’s crazy to me how people excuse is that is niche community and all that but if mig didn’t exist we wouldn’t have a crisis on second hand market

[@dreadedgoldguy]

100% agreement with that.

[@ThomasOlson964]

I only want the mig switch to play mm2 mods so I agree with you

[@mariorivera7969]

The fact that this video isn’t performing like other videos is insane. It’s literally one of the best psa for Nintendo switch users

[@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440]

Nintendo needs to make a security key on official cartridge so if its cloned to the mig switch cartridge launching it will come up with a error

[@omduggineni]

Like a SIM card or FIDO key?

[@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440]

@@omduggineni yea kinda like that where the cartridges have a encoded key that cant be cloned at all

[@kennethomalley2070]

Game Stop is supposed to test games when being traded in. Not saying all will actually do that. Retailers, need to get on Nintendo to provide them with a way to safely check Switch games for resale. Personally don't see Nintendo rushing to do that anytime soon.

[@MataNataM]

Imagine an entire second-hand market that sells only game reproductions from dumps. Damn. At least it’s a bit comforting this comes out near the end of the switch’s life cycle, but hell if you thought getting physical games is a safe bet now you can never know anymore

[@bigeddiekane4995]

Love how in detail you get and even went through the history of the mig switch, subbed instantly bro I like the way you seam your videos together and how smooth it is to watch

[@Shadeamous]

If something i own gets “banned” on a hardware level and i cant use it ill be getting a hold of a laywer and suing faster than comic book wally west flash running from the edge of the universe to the earth when he had to beat teleportation

[@MoldyMcdonut]

Actually the servers are still up the only thing they disabled was the auth servers for the wii u and 3ds so i think they have conjoined Infrastructure It was also pretty clear that they shut down the servers for security reasons. The steel diver servers were actually disabled before the shutdown for this reason.

[@josephsaunders8618]

I have a heart-felt request. I don’t know if it fits your motif exactly but a video titled “best games to emulate without a controller” would be sweet.

[@dankandwatch]

I want the dumper for myself. I will keep my collection of games. I just want it for convenience. especially if they can figure out how to make it so the mig switch acts more like an R4 card so I can scroll through my games instead of randomly getting a game by repeatedly inserting and removing the cartridge because having a large library would make that more inconvenient than actually just putting the game in the switch

[@IsaacG8]

Okay, so I have 1 modded switch and one unmodded. The modded one is used to play my legally owned games offline with cheats. Say what you will about cheat codes, but sometimes they make gameplay that was originally tedious or grindy, enjoyable. My unmodded switch is used to play games with my friends online. Because I have a modded switch and a 1tb micro sd, I know how easy it is to dump games. For this reason, I never purchase used Switch games, and I never lend my Switch games out. If there is any ambiguity to the origin of a Switch cart I'm going to play, I'll use my modded switch (which is always offline). Now that game dumping is even more accessible (before you needed a modded switch and only certain models were moddable), I imagine these issues with used games will only get worse.

[@jeremy__hopkins]

One thing that isn't discussed is what will have with sealed Switch game prices. I own a few expensive Switch games like Shantae and the Pirate's Curse and TMNT Radical Edition. Already they're going for insane prices but a few years from now and maybe the demand for clean, sealed games which won't lead to a ban will only increase. That wasn't my intention when I bought these games but was just busy and never got around to playing them. Even if Nintendo reissues games for the upcoming Super Switch, that used, cheap game market for the Switch is broken.

[@Gerardhutt]

Everyone knows 99% of people are not going to use it to just backup their own games

[@hanauzaki6264]

I aint

[@bananajamin8284]

Yeah I think this KZbinr is probably the only person who’s going to use it for backups 😭😭

[@bunnybreaker]

Literally doesn't matter. The issue here is that Nintendo may ban users that had no part in piracy of any sort.

[@Bread11362]

This is such a bad idea to create this. buying used games is extra risky.

[@Yoshizuyuner]

They only care about money and themselves not the common consumer

[@Bread11362]

true@@Yoshizuyuner

[@nayyarrashid4661]

​@@Bread11362The problem is it puts even the legit users in bad limelight. I am getting one just to see how it works and may be make a few different SD cards for travel so that I don't have to carry the cartridges with me or play my legit copies on emulator. I have zero intention of selling any of my games

[@parkerazz4385]

Don't play online and there no trouble

[@classicgamernl]

I hope there will be a dumper for 3DS games that will be as simple as this one. I noticed some games don't work anymore. Would be great to have some m-discs with backups of my games. Nintendo should do something about this, it's their security system that doesn't work anymore. You can't ban people who are legally using their devices and legally purchased games.

[@i_play_projectm]

Bro that already exists. Look it up! After you hack your 3ds, you can backup your own games to an sdcard with FBI

[@DungarooTV]

I'm not sure if this device does more good or harm to the gaming community! People, if you buy the damn game then bring it with you and play it in your Switch as it was designed!

[@billballmar6003]

This will affect both the person that copied the used game and they one buying used game. Why, because they also can be banned as well so it's not just the buyers of used game but the person whom cheated to get money for the game. So it's a double edge sword so if you backup and play and sell the "cart" game be careful what you wish for as you will also get banned as well. This is the part those talking about the "Dumper" don't tell people.

[@ForsakenOne18]

What i understood about this Mig switch is that as long the console isn't connected to the internet, it should be fine , buy brand new games if you intend to play online , and buy used games if you intend to play offline , but even then the risk there would be if you are planning to get DLC for the offline games .

[@packman28]

iirc backing up games in the States isn't legal if you have to break/bypass DRM to do it. In Canada it's a bit more of a grey area I believe (just don't profit off it, share it, or cost Nintendo any damages and you can't really be punished) but I'm not anything close to a lawyer, so take this comment with a few pounds of salt.

[@ZeldagigafanMatthew]

That's true for any media here in the US. Legal unless you are breaking or bypassing means to prevent it, but I don't think this particular section of the DMCA was ever tested in the courts. Take a look at movies and TV shows. A lot of people now are setting up their own private use home media servers and dumping rips or their blu-ray and DVD collection to it giving them access to blu-ray quality content at the convenience of streaming. Heck, there are videos here on KZbin describing the process and the software to use to rip them.

[@packman28]

@@ZeldagigafanMatthew Fair point, there probably would’ve been lawsuits already if the media companies really cared about people ripping movies for themselves and not sharing them. I believe the closest thing to case law we have for that is Universal v. Corley (which is over 23 years old at this point), but that was (based on my limited understanding) more about whether the DeCSS ban was a violation of free speech rather than whether DeCSS was fair use.

[@dreadedgoldguy]

Man, that's a cool Switch emulator, I sure do hope no shady business behind the scenes with the developers happens. Oh wait-

[@MrOfflineAlways]

The famous Switch emulator, Yeezy😂😂😂

[@zhaumbie]

lol

[@joelgarcia3907]

Sorry for this question, but I’m a little confused. So I back up my games using this or the mig switch, leave my physical cartridges at home when I travel and just use the backups but since it’s a copy I could get banned? Or I get banned if the physical copy and this back up plays at the exact same time? Because if it’s the former, what’s the point of a copy if it’s gonna get me banned?

[@user-qv5do7vz5l]

Bro imagine you a little kid and you get banned because your parents bought a used game copy SAD

[@Snoc06]

Well. That’s good to know. I tend to think that even if I have my games dumped I’ll keep them in case something goes wrong with the dump.

[@zurro311]

I've no joke been dreaming for a device like this since second year of the switch's lifespan, and when I talked about something like this or saw others having the same idea we were all told we were crazy as it was not possible. Well who's the crazy one now

[@Jobroski47]

11:30 if your gonna do this stick to a platform with the 1 rom file like wii and whatnot, your library may not have wii but wtv your planning on playing, if it uses a set seed and if others playing it will get banned because you ripped dont do it, imo. In reality i cant stop you but i can still judge

[@ben_burnes]

Man, I kind of want to get one of these so I can play my Switch games on the Steam Deck that seems sick as hell.

[@repeekyraidcero]

Uh huh.

[@pacopacmancruz]

My question is, if I dump my games and play them on my steam deck, and I let my friend borrow that game. Would they get banned? Or because I’m playing through and emulator they would be fine

[@ben_burnes]

I don't know the answer, so don't take this as correct but... If the Steam Deck is internet connected, it's likely that many games ping home with auth credentials so be wary. You might be able to set the Steam Deck emulation to not connect online and then it *shouldn't* be a problem?

[@kevinkev1530]

Good question

[@meow-is-edible]

You will be fine cause switch emulators can't connect to Nintendo server. Even on Hacked Switch, you most likely will be fine playing "borrowed" games or cheating on legit bought games on sysnand unless you connect to the Nintendo server, and there are several tools made exactly to prevent connecting on Nintendo server, which you will have setup by default if you follow the correct guide.

[@lucsaysno8060]

This is a random comment, but i love this channel and the topics on it. I always want to get into it more and figure out more stuff about modding and all of that, but idk where to begin looking

[@dymaz_azure]

7:37 BUT IS LEGAL!!! because you actually have the console, you have the game, its perfectoy fine!!

[@parkerazz4385]

I'm 5 months away from my dumper being shipped. It took 7 months for the mig switch to arrive. So I bought a mod chip for my nintendo that way I can dump my games sooner to my steam deck

[@TheNadazza]

This is a big reason why I’ve bought all the 3DS and Switch Pokemon games for my collection. I can with 100% certainty know they’re real since there are no fakes yet. Gameboy and DS has been more of a challenge

[@joshmatthiesen4552]

I bought one. And I have a hacked switch. I wanted it because soon you wouldn’t be able to get one.

[@Newspeak.]

ya gotta think that retailers are going to push nintendo to do something about the ban issue. It makes sense to ban the cart from working if they can but banning the console is way too extreme and has the potential of killing the 2nd hand market completely but then again maybe they just don't give a shit at all.

[@zhaumbie]

Nintendo doesn't want used games in circulation. As far as they're concerned, used resellers have been digging into their bottom dollar since the 1980s and can politely eat their whole ass

[@BRYANTDOOD]

Buying and returning games seems way too much to dump them, at this point just get a modded switch and download em much much easier and no damage to anybody else, plus if you set it up correctly you can play it as a normal switch as well and very little risk of ban

[@mayoraeryn]

So what you're telling me is that if I do this, I should still hold on to my physical cartridges to prevent myself or prevent someone else from getting banned. Gotcha

[@whatcoloristhematrix2209]

Hmm, for single-player or local multiplayer, the game runs entirely on your Switch without needing to connect to a server.

[@ChimpRiot]

This will kill Nintendo Switch Online and the eStore before it kills the used game market. If tons of people get banned, then they will just load up the mig switch with downloaded copies or continue buying used copies and not bothering with online.

[@adanwarren4447]

I'm skeptical that this is a thing to be worried about. - Very few people are going to get the tool. Considering it would at most be 1 person banned per 1 person flashing games, the risk is already very low. - People who use the flashing tool would know the risk of playing online with them. Therefore they'd probably not play online with those games. - Even if your legit cartridge shares the same ID with a flashed cartridge, the probability of both of you playing them both online at the exact same time is extremely low. Think about how frequently you play the same game at the same time as one of your friends by pure coincidence, then further divide by time zones and limited play hours, the delay for game flashing to be accessible, etc. Basically the risk is non-existent. It's not something to worry about in the slightest.

[@zhaumbie]

Ah, see, you’re not thinking like a criminal Let’s say the next big $60 release drops next week. You buy a copy, rip it, return it. You sell two dozen duped, legit-looking physical copies at 30-50% off, buy another new copy, pocket the rest You’re never at risk, but you put a ton of other people at risk

[@adanwarren4447]

@@zhaumbiethat's not completely out of the realm of possibility, but it's further less likely and it should be easy to tell if a Switch cartridge is a fake. Also, the only way a person is going to unknowingly buy a fake cartridge is if they go to a shady market or buy online - the former of which you would need to be stupid, and the latter of which there are tonnes of buyer protections. Y'all are paranoid.

[@mercury5003]

Undertale is HUGE in japan, toby also seems to have a big prescence on japanese social media as well.

[@OrangeSpaceNewt]

I didnt even know that this was a thing, it makes me scared of losing my Borderlands: The Handsome Jack Collection even more now because my nephew more than likely stole my copy of the cartridge and i can get banned any day, now jfc

[@TheLeadZombie]

it doesn't make any logical sense for nintendo to ban people for "sharing" a game they own especially since they could be banning innocent people who are actually sharing a physical game cart with a friend or buying a used game from gamestop. remember people, you don't own your games, not even the physical copies. If they can, they'll try and take it from you if you break their rules. if buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing.

[@karlpowell9235]

One of the clearest reviews...

[@EmeraldEagle_]

The citrus ref was hilarious 😂

[@YTP2go]

Was the banned console banned for using the legit cart only or did it use the MiG Switdh as well? The only way to tell if a ban is due to a duplicate game card and not the MiG Switch is to have never used it on the banned console that way a copied used game can be guaranteed to be the ban cause. Using the MiG Switch at all and having a ban from a dupe card does not rule out the MiG Switch itself as the cause.

[@XashA12Musk]

i got torrent of MIG Switch dump of 1.8 TB, Damn These guys are Faster than sonic 😂😂

[@AdrianRodriguez-gq1pf]

These people are why we cant ever have anything good in life. all they do all day is pick their nose and make used games at a good price dangerous to play.

[@Yubuuo]

Jeff is 2 for 2 for making non child friendly ads

[@RonneB.Official]

Now i don't know if i wanna buy a switch with used switch games. I wouldn't wanna get banned just for buying an used copy of smash ultimate and how i wanted to play online.

[@someone69420klh]

Eyy my question was in the video, im commenting now because before comments were turned off

[@hectorraymondburgosgonzales]

The Mig Switch Dumper is perfect for copy switch game and good video too Thank you my dude

[@Dyscordy]

The fact that people are purposely trying to get other peoples switched banned by trading in dumped games hurts me, buying used games won’t ever be the same

[@Narutimake]

If i use a MIG card for traveling the seas, but never connect my switch to internet there's no risk right?

[@kratos_ezio]

Petition to start a discord server to address the issues of people and let ourself suggest you videos for you to post

[@NewGabeOrder]

I know it has nothing to do with the MIG Switch dumper, but is it possible to use the MIG Switch to transfer digitally-purchased games to the micro SD card there to preserve space on the Nintendo Switch internal storage? My cousin has a Nintendo Switch with a broken micro SD card slot, preventing from expanding the system's storage.

[@Luigi_Main3752]

Terrifying thought occurred. Do you guys think there will be people trying to figure out how to spoof security certificates on the switch games next?

[@physturs]

Nintendo should see this as a business opportunity as people will be afraid of buying used games.

[@Month-Day-Year]

5:07 “So you can take that dump….”

[@fifiIsAwesum]

question, why do we have the EXACT same hair style!? thats so cool

[@umadkneegrow]

might sound cringe but your voice is satysfying 😂

[@HangOnThereSlick]

I only got this to backup my switch games onto my PC to emulate. Because the games play 100x better on pc

[@matthewnour97]

You get banned only if you're playing online though right? And only banned from that game?

[@Manito418]

Great video on the dumper!

[@ernst1988]

Nice video, thanks! Weird question maybe. But what Windows laptop are you using in the video, and what theme? It looks so clean?

[@adel8616]

It's just windows 11 and it looks like an asus zephyrus g14

[@solvdev]

2023 asus zephyrus G14 with anime dot matrix. windows 11 dark mode

[@NickMoses05]

Finally u have answered!!!! lol. Thanks for the video my dude. Big Salute!

[@BLADE5173]

well... 1 queston... can you dump a Gamecube game on the card? and ofc play it on switch

[@rengamesitout]

I like how you threw in "When you can". Into your statement. You like crabby-patties, too, don't ya squidward ;p Also, you can circumvent the ban by jailbreaking your switch, and only using the xci. the Certificate is not required from it. All you need is your decryption keys that are you unique to your Switch. as long as you back up your decryption keys, and your system, you should be able to dump your games, and play them on the switch, without being banned. However, if you are going to use this method, just play offline. If an update comes up, ask your friend to stay offline while you update your system (literally takes like 10 minutes), and go offline.

[@Boxersteavee]

Sick! My switch isn't hackable anymore since it needed a mainboard replacement.

[@anthonyruth5606]

It happen to me i bought a used game from GameStop and got banned when I played online i contacted Nintendo and they never responded back

[@yungfella666]

Before this when groups would dump games for modded switches I feel like they just put the cart away and called it a day since its a dirty cart thats insta banned but now no used cart's are safe since any asshole can dump them and sell it back so i'm glad I have a huge collection where I know i'm the only owner but yeah def no more used switch games especially "new" gamestop games lol

[@deathwizard1996]

Man I am gonna dislike getting banned for buying a legitimate game in a used market.

[@gianisprogrgatanas1780]

How about just staying offline when using used copies?

[@mi4lh]

yea i thought this too. i think that’d be fine

[@ilyearer]

I'd imagine that is safe currently, but there's no guarantee it stays that way. Nintendo could update the Switch to track offline game usage and upload the certificates and their timestamps the next time you are online and then ban certificates with overlapping timestamps. That said, that would be a significant development and upkeep cost to maybe catch some people when the fear of used games might be enough to discourage most people.

[@charlieg6913]

I was hoping you would do a video on this. Sweet! Ty.

[@ThePanacon]

The question is, what exactly does it mean to get banned? Can I still turn on my switch and play games even if my switch was banned? Nobody seems to talk about that specific thing. I play single player games, don't play online with others. Should I still be concerned about getting banned?

[@mmbiz.o]

It makes it so your switch cant play online games. Your nintendo account however, will not be affected.

[@ThePanacon]

@@mmbiz.o Thank you for the information. That means if I don't care about playing online with others I don't need to worry about getting banned.

[@feliry]

@@ThePanacon also, you cant use nintendo eshop to download any games, also, you cant update your games, so if your switch is banned and you plug a mig switch with a clone game but that game requires an update( exemple: mortal kombat 1), you cant play that game. So... mig switch is useless

[@ThePanacon]

@@feliry That's a bummer. Not being able to update is bad. I guess that'll include the firmware updates as well.

[@feliry]

@@ThePanacon no, you can still download firmware updates but are useless when your console is banned 😅

[@gregjarvis1232]

The mig is good for game preservation without having2 mod your Switch however this is going to make it impossible 2 buy second hand games because if your cart has been dumped your Switch gets banned until the Switch is no longer supported buy the big N

[@snonyabeeswax]

and this is why a lot of my games are digital now and why i kinda avoid used games now

[@VoyivodaFTW1]

Game dumping inadvertently ruining the used game industry was not on my 2024 bingo card.

[@Zeldaboy2k2]

Well, I guess I'll have to make sure I buy my Switch games New going foward. This hurts the used game market, dammit, DammitJeff. lol But great info! Thanks for the video!

[@Yusei255]

Just use bit for single player games, ajd buy smoother switch that way you won't get banned if you don't connect it.

[@lockewampler888]

would it be possible to use the dumper to add mods to the dumped games, or do you still need a modded switch?

[@zhaumbie]

Modded switch, 100%