How this Cheap But Genius Invention Made the F-15 Most Feared in Dogfight

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[@taxiwatcher]

Did I miss it, or did you forget to tell what the "Cheap But Genius Invention Made the F-15 Most Feared in Dogfight" is ?????

[@douglasbuck8986]

(air brake)

[@lynncomstock1255]

@@douglasbuck8986 thanks.

[@douglasbuck8986]

@@lynncomstock1255 NP Did 10 years at RAF Lakenheath with this airframe....

[@trailrunning11vlog]

The cheap invention is the door at back of the cockpit for braking and maneuvering

[@kibbyken5975]

So we could have stopped at the 5:00 point of this advertisement...

[@Rationalific]

The F-15 going strong for 50 years, rather than just 30 years!

[@Chuck59ish]

Funny they never mentioned the Israeli Air Force F-15 that flew home missing a wing, was repaired and put back into service.

[@icare7151]

I remember that well. Apparently only 10% ish of the wing was remaining and with a high speed landing all turned out well! Incredible engineering and piloting. I’ll take the advanced F-15 Strike Eagle II over the F-35 any day.

[@gary6032]

@@icare7151 cool aircraft, but with no stealth. f35 is king

[@rustyshaklferd1897]

Probably because it’s so well known by everyone with interest in aviation it’s not worth bringing up.

[@rustyshaklferd1897]

They didn’t mention the f-15 successfully shot down a satellite in orbit also because it is too well known to anyone with interest in military aircraft.

[@icare7151]

@@rustyshaklferd1897 Never assume people know history when the WOKERS don’t teach real USA or World History anymore.

[@lloydmixsr.9764]

Hard to believe it first flew in 72 when I was 20, Im now 70. Seen it up close a couple of times, its Awesome.

[@grantmartin1852]

1971 in Saint Charles, Missouri, I was in summer school when the prototype F15 was flown out of Lambert in a C5 to Edwards. All we heard was this big roar, saw a big shadow, and our AFJROTC instructor told us what we just witnessed. I was 16. That was 51 years ago. Hard to believe. Then I realized, the B52 - is 70 years old, the C5 is 54 years old, and the C130 is 68 years old and STILL in production!

[@richardreil6730]

Me too, at Eglin AFB in Florida, not "Elgin." I was a 20 year old Airman serving as a photographer at the base.

[@lloydmixsr.9764]

@@richardreil6730 I was working on the Lockheed L-1011 Tristar Jetliner in Palmdale, Ca. from 72 to 74, then joined the Navy.

[@georgepalmer5497]

"There ain't nothin' more expensive than a second best air force." Amen.

[@joebloggs6131]

Are you referring to the US Navy haha

[@georgepalmer5497]

If anyone is offended I hope they accept my apologies.

[@jhstyer]

@@georgepalmer5497 not offended, 🤧 keep your Chair while we take the fight to them. 4.5 Acres of sovereign U.S. territory anywhere in the world.

[@davidbell1619]

Air Farce has pilots. The Navy has Aviators.

[@davistalhone9482]

So glad the 15s are still getting updates - I have nothing but respect for the F-22 and 35 but planes of this era are like the muscle cars of military aviation. Big, crude, intimidating.

[@meDarkmask]

The speed of this fighter is its biggest advantage.

[@brentboswell1294]

The B and D models are the trainers for the A and C models, respectively. Although they are both fully combat capable, the intended purpose of the rear cockpit is to carry a flight instructor to help transition a pilot who's new to the F-15 into flying the Eagle solo, or to make civilians sick on PR or familiarization flights 😁 Also gives the enlisted personnel good incentives to shine, as familiarization flights are awarded to outstanding enlisted personnel as a reward for excellence.

[@frankmiller95]

Had a friend who was an F16 pilot/instructor at DM in the early '00s. At the time l had a beach house on a well known New England resort. l offered him and his family an entire summer there in return for an hour's ride in the two seat, trainer model. He told me he'd be glad to take me up on it if it wouldn't cause him to be court martialed out of his career. He retired a couple of years ago as a full colonel, one of the most modest and quiet people l've known. Can't reveal his call sign which l learned only recently from a chance meeting with one of his former students at a Costco gas station.

[@douglasbuck8986]

Second seat F-15E Weapons Officer ..........

[@greenlight6913]

Did you know the first of the F-15 A/B had it's speed brake was 3 feet shorter, in the early 80's the speed breaks were mortified to what you see today. One correction on your comment on speed brake, the speed break control is a toggle swatch on the right throttle and can be set to any position you desire, use your left thumb and push up and hold and release it to any position you desire. Push the toggle aft and it will lower to any position as desired. I spent 22 years as a Crew Chief on 15 A/B/C/D/E. it's old now but still has a punch.

[@deanmccormick8070]

Sorry to be so picky, but it's a speed BRAKE.

[@frankmiller95]

@@deanmccormick8070 Give him a brake, he got it right the first time🤣🤣

[@tubefluid]

Thank you!

[@Tinker1950]

Quote "the speed breaks were mortified" How to 'break' the English language more like. Well, I was mortified - scared to death actually.

[@bja2024]

Good on ya Wrongway. The video has many errors, this was one.

[@arkangel7j]

we salute them all , the makers , the maintainers , the PILOTS , the trainers and last but not least , the taxpayers ;)

[@tspot816]

My father worked on the development of the engines for the F-15, the F100, while he was at Pratt and Whitney. My brother was assigned to F-15s at Luke AFB way back in the day and spent much of his 25 years in the Air Force working on F-15s. It is still such an absolutely gorgeous plane.

[@malcolmmckinlay2143]

World Beater

[@25mm25]

My dad was assigned to weapons installation on the F-15 at Luke AFB in the late 1970's, early 1980's. Because of him, my second favorite jet is the F-15, and my favorite is the F-22. I love both of those planes! I could not imagine being the pilot of either of them. That would be an awesome experience, even though the F-15 is almost 50 years old and the F-22 is almost 20 years old. I can only imagine what has to be in service these days, as it seems we don't hear of the technology until at least 10-15 years later...

[@user-zx2nj3om2z]

I'm from Algeria and I want to join US air force can I do that

[@nkuntroll247]

Do you mean Luke AFB in Alaska? I was born at the base hospital many years ago. My father was in the army assigned to AA guns protecting the base. I understand it is all closed down now.

[@coolbreeze253]

Eglin AFB, not Elgin.

[@Snailmale7]

I watched the ENTIRE video.... and still don't know what is the 'cheap but genius invention that made the F-15 the most feared in a dog fight....

[@johnpoertner1361]

Same here.

[@iloverbk1]

Air Break, and rear cockpit.

[@paulmarcoux207]

Excuse me, it does not have four guns! It has ONE cannon , it's a gatling gun.

[@Chuck59ish]

First time I've heard of missiles being referred to as guns.

[@tylerthompson516]

Sorry correction I guess helios have mounted machine guns lol

[@butthead6051]

And about the airbrakes being either fully deployed or not at all...There is a half way setting. It was even shown in the video at 1:13

[@Chuck59ish]

@@tylerthompson516 But usually not 4, 2 door gunners and sometimes 2 forward firing under the stub wings.

[@asheshinfinite3766]

I think he means "Hard Points".

[@yomarimorel856]

Funny statement, I'm an eagle driver and I didn't know the airplane has 4 external guns lol thanks for the lough

[@papatomkaraoke]

I guess you could mount 4, I think they were GAU-38 guns like they flew on the F-4C. That would make for some interesting shooting lol

[@ronalddavis]

yeah and im santa clause

[@brentdallyn8459]

Dogfighting not withstanding, today's aerial victory doesn't go to the best pilot, but to the best missile.

[@MrGunderfly]

"dog fighting" is slang for "aircraft maneuvering". best t-shirt worthy quote of the new year.

[@lawdawgfair9611]

Dog fighting is slang for NFL player pastime.

[@pike100]

What is special about that quote?

[@LinngahPremi]

This is the only aircraft in modern history to shoot down an space orbiting satellite with its missile!!!....LIVING LEGEND💝🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@xyzaero9656]

I am sure it is the only airplane in history to do that, but 40 years is also quite some time ago.🤣

[@LinngahPremi]

@@xyzaero9656 40 yrs are enough..but still people use SAMs to shoot sats down while this fighter plane can do both(shooting a sam battery and a sattelite at the same time) which is relevant & remarkable in this era As well!!!!

[@xyzaero9656]

@@LinngahPremi Don’t tell me, I love the F-15.

[@thomaslouisklein5532]

the missile does most of the work - the trick is to get the plane high enough before the engines flame out. (at about 60,000 feet?) i vaguely remember reading something about modifying an f-15 with auxiliary oxygen to boost the operational ceiling...

[@mrspaceman2764]

The US actually has over 400 F15's in active service and that's with over 200 in some state of repair/upgrade/replacement.

[@lloydmixsr.9764]

I thought there was more than 249 F-15's.

[@marioncobaretti2280]

Currently have 234 in service ready for use

[@thehrschannel4784]

Always amazes me how they don't break up when they are manoeuvring, in the simulated dog fight the tail fins where wobbling like no one's business... I guess they must build some sort of flex into the airframe?

[@LinngahPremi]

I know its an old design and there are many best fighter in US now but I love the fact how f-15 eagle still reflects the charisma of "American eagle" 🦅..that is the king of skies💝

[@malcolmmckinlay2143]

Master of the skies

[@craig4867]

Four external guns? F-15 does not have four external guns, doofus! 1-20 mm Cannon!

[@andrewtheogre5971]

Haha was thinking the same thing dude. 1 20mm cannon thats it.😂

[@craig4867]

@@andrewtheogre5971 🤟

[@benpalmer7593]

That is Eglin AFB not Elgin AFB. Spent 3 1/2 years there attached to the Florida Army Ranger camp from Martin Army Hospital in Ft. Benning, GA. Best 3 years of my career!

[@wskmkm6565]

F15 is my favorite fighter jet

[@secretagent86]

I missed the cheap but genius invention…. Please tell me. Ty

[@MinhNguyen-nl1gm]

Không quân Mỹ vượt trội đối phương mọi mặt. Người Mỹ thông minh và sáng tạo 🇺🇸👍.

[@tundratiger9473]

1970's was a golden era of an aviation. F14, F15, F16, F18, B1, MIG25, MIG29, SU27, TORNADO, B747.....

[@nesseihtgnay9419]

F-15, undefeated

[@TrainTracker911]

Absolutely beautiful jets. Sure wish I could fly again. Too old now. Eyesight fading. Thanks to all the Air Force service members for your service to our country. Help to keep us free.

[@stargazeronesixseven]

🙏 Thank You So Much for Your Service to the Nation Sir! Stay Safe & Stay Healthy! 🌷🌿🌏💜🕊

[@chunglow7646]

I thankya for your service sir!

[@rosevitelli5814]

And it can still handle itself pretty darn good 🙂

[@bowlampar]

$180 M per unit. Wow! Must be really nice to pilot one of this.

[@tommytube268]

St. Louis should be proud! Only the best for our All Volunteer Military Personnel

[@maryhines322]

They used to have a billboard by the McDonnel Douglas plant in St Louis that read "There's no problem in the world that a fully armed F15 can't solve"

[@justicews]

I guess the Cheap But Genius Invention was too classified!

[@Darknamja]

Eglin, not Elgin. 😉

[@jeremyhicks2449]

Let's go Air Force!

[@EricDPeterson56]

I know it's nitpicking, but the F1 does NOT have 4 external guns. They are external hard points for missiles and bombs. Also, the AFB in Florida is pronounced Egg-lin. Just saying.... :)

[@ue4770]

A nice commercial for both F-15 and F-22, just the topic of the video clip which “Genius But Cheap Invention Made the F-15 Most Feared in Dogfight“ is not answered.

[@arkangel7j]

1 of our best FU machines ;)

[@rangepro]

Salute>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the men and women!!

[@icare7151]

The F-15 Super Eagle II is a game changer. Can’t discuss specifics but huge leap in all areas. Nano technologies like never before.

[@georgesheffield1580]

Do you mean a F15 EX ?

[@icare7151]

@@georgesheffield1580 F-15EX with advanced active nano stealth coating integration technologies

[@NationChosenByGod]

@@icare7151 But the shape is not stealthy, so it is still detectable on the radar.

[@icare7151]

@@NationChosenByGod Maybe.

[@xFlowXxX]

@@NationChosenByGod the shape is not the most important thing. Once a new stealth plane is released, the radars are updates 6 months later to identify this shape after 3d recreation of the plane. But coating technology, or ECM stealth thing is harder to counter

[@matsneander4595]

The video never mentioned "the cheap but genius invention" of its headline..

[@truesailor45]

waw amazing brows,...

[@georgehunter2813]

F-15. The first and original highly maneuverable large twin engine air dominance jet fighter. Others copy, and sight to match or exceed it after the fact.

[@pike100]

George, what did you mean by "sight to match it"? Maybe you intended to write "tried to match it"?

[@johannjohann6523]

The F-22 is such a good looking plane. It looks like it performs,, that's really cool.

[@jonbutcher9805]

It can even fly with one wing missing.

[@smokeylovesfire1589]

True!

[@thomaslouisklein5532]

yes, but you probably wouldn't enjoy the ride. iirc, he had to fly the landing at ~200 knots, just to maintain control.

[@paulkelly7784]

Lots of bad info here. The airbrakes are adjustable. They are not all or nothing.

[@longshot7601]

That along with the one internal cannon and at least four external guns thing. Turned off the video after that.

[@paulkelly7784]

@@longshot7601 lol I thought I heard them say that. I thought maybe I just misunderstood.

[@bobbyb.1743]

Was there any mention of the speed/climb records it held for years?

[@fuz4623]

Agree with @taxiwatcher. Where’s the cheap ingenious dogfighting hack?

[@jackmatranga2539]

Impressive. Great to learn about the myriad details.

[@fabriceboel57]

Un superbe avion félicitations 👍🇫🇷❤️

[@chrispierdominici3891]

Still one of the most beautiful and outstanding fighters of all time.

[@stephen4763]

What was the ingenious invention?

[@Nightsight971]

They should have canted the wings like the Silent Eagle, take that 25 meter radar cross section down a bit. Also, I hear thrust vectoring's major knock is that it makes you bleed energy, so I am assuming they don't use the air brake in dog fights.

[@thomaslouisklein5532]

i'm not an expert, but sometimes the purpose of a dogfight is NOT to arrive first. letting the other guy overshoot and get in front of you is more polite.

[@laurin4405]

@@thomaslouisklein5532 "Polite" ...Love it🔫:}

[@skipperclinton1087]

I watched Lefty Gardner pull a nearly vertical takeoff in his P38 Lighting named the "White Lighting" at the Reno air races in 1980. Once he gained altitude he shut down one engine and did a lot of aerobatics. So 'hole shots' upon take-off are nothing new!

[@chrisjones6030]

Late 70's the RAAF came recruiting at High School and had an F15 tail walk across the oval then disappear straight up. Been a favourite ever since, with the F111 a close second.

[@skipperclinton1087]

@Chris Jones : I watched an F/A-18 Super Hornet do the same thing down the runway at NAS Lemoore in central CA in 2001 and ended with a straight up hole shot. Pretty impressive 👏 BTW Chris, that P38J is now down in your country.

[@foxstrangler]

The English Electric Lightning (first flown 1954) would regularly 'hole shot'. It could take off behind an F-15E in a max performance climb and overtake it whilst still climbing almost vertically. It could also 'supercruise'. The RAF retired them in 1988.

[@gus1138]

@@foxstrangler LOL

[@johnmccorquodale6406]

2:44 Looks like JDAM tail sections.

[@jonbutcher9805]

Is there consensus on what fighter has the best bang for the buck?

[@rcstl8815]

Sure just like the consensus on the best car manufacturer.

[@williamtell5365]

This might qualify as the best military aircraft ever made. Just an awesome piece of engineering.

[@joelstanhope7231]

But not stealth , that makes it a easy target for radar guided missles . It was a good design , so wasnt the M60 tank

[@williamtell5365]

@@joelstanhope7231 sure, it's an outdated plane. Do you think the new F15x or whatever is worth producing? Might not be.

[@JerryJ26]

Having flown in one and being a crew chief on it, I can confirm this.

[@roberthoffman4798]

Yes sir! Eagle Maintainer, 1977 - 1986. 405th Wing, Luke AFB, AZ and (TATADADA!) The all conquering 318th Fighter Interceptor Squadron, McChord AFB, WA. While at Luke I was a Foreign Instructor, Avionics. To the point, I was involved in every system on the aircraft and it was reliable as a stone. The more it flew the more it wanted to fly. When it did break it was (relatively) easy to fix. Oh, did I mention it was deadly. An Air-to-Air combat record of 104 kills/0 (ZERO) loses. (I've heard 102 to 107). There are two types of aircraft, F-15's and TARGETS!

[@pike100]

​@@roberthoffman4798Are stones generally considered to be reliable?

[@stargazeronesixseven]

We assumed the cheap & genius device is the pneumatic / mechanical powered Air~Brake Panel?! ... 🐕

[@darenf973]

Did I miss something, or did you never reveal the invention your video claims to reveal.

[@bobkonradi1027]

I never heard about the headline feature either.

[@juergenwest]

I just watched a 15 minute video to learn that the air brake is the cheap and genius invention on a jet fighter. So in case you are short on time. There is it is, the answer to your question, what is the cheap and genius invention. It’s the air break or speed break as they are sometimes called.

[@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020]

It cheap because it just a piece of metal activated by hydrulics

[@pike100]

It's a brake, not a break.

[@jp7147]

Super awesome 👍😎

[@chrismair8161]

The Engagement lasts maybe 45-55 Seconds.The speeds are well above MACH 2.1

[@khurramriaz9879]

Excellent video and information regarding F-15 Eagles. Unmatched big bird till to date and years to come.

[@kenlegendre5284]

American's best dog fighter is the tomcat

[@GaryL3803]

@2:55 - Sheet Meta Assemble, hahahaha!

[@kempmt1]

Is there a chance that F-15EX will get TV nozzles like the F-22?

[@longshot7601]

I doubt it. I see the EX as being the missile truck for the F-22s and F-35. If the enemy gets close enough for a dogfight then something went wrong.

[@scotcoon1186]

I understand the Tomcat-21 would have got thrust vectoring. Too bad Cheney opted for the spray-and-pray method of dogfighting.

[@rapidsqualor5367]

Like the F-15 STOL/MTD ? I wish they could put in P&W F119 engines without the nozzles. That would give the AMRAAMs more range.

[@longshot7601]

@@rapidsqualor5367 I don't think that they can fit the F119 into the F-15. For one it's a larger diameter fan and second it would probably also require a redesign of the intakes to make them larger. By then you would have designed a new fighter like the Legacy Hornet to the Super Hornet.

[@jorgeestrada5713]

Only 249 F 15's? It's few.

[@ppvk2610]

Perhaps they mean a certain type.. Seems a bit few for all types F-15 C, .. D, ...E,.. etc. versions

[@soplatubo8315]

The F-15 is feared in a dogfight? You're kidding. Even the tiny F-16 will hose the F-15 every time. Every time!

[@jackmatranga2539]

How many G's do the various move you've shown cause for the pilot?

[@kennethdarby8941]

Hey now. The F-22 got a a few kills this month. Mostly Ballons, but, hey. lol

[@James7995]

The Air Force’s muscle car. Big engines and big firepower.

[@yzzxxvv]

Amazing

[@auro1986]

first batch production model f15a is best of them

[@fw1421]

Amazing that they don’t ever mention the cost per hour of operation all these aircraft have. The F-22 and F-35 have eye watering operational cost and both have low availability due to parts unavailability. The F-35 has a history of reliability issues.

[@georgesheffield1580]

Especially the B and C models

[@nunyabidniz2868]

Plus it's so massive it makes the F-14 Tomcat [already a huge fighter] look positively sveldt...

[@Purpose_Bilt]

@@nunyabidniz2868 35 is a lot smaller than the 14.

[@RocketPropelledGuy]

F-35 haters will never ever be satisfied and are flat earthers by this point. The amount of evidence to the contrary is staggering and massive.

[@tundratiger9473]

I hope that someone can makes 1970's aviation history.

[@kayakutah]

"How this Cheap But Genius Invention Made the F-15 Most Feared in Dogfight". Speedbrakes? NOPE!

[@neilhaas]

🇺🇲🇮🇱❤️💘👍🤗😁😀💯 love the F-15 amazing jet.

[@stargazeronesixseven]

Magnificent Fighters these F15 Eagle >>> Wish the NAVY granted to upgrade their F14 Tomcat to F14EX too to extend their glorious service to the Nation just like the F15EX Eagle ... 🌷🌿🌏💜🕊

[@twolak1972]

THE F14 IS LIKE A SPAD BIPLANE COMPARED TO THE F15 EAGLE. WITH ITS UPCOMING STEALTH TECH IT WILL BE UNBEATABLE INTO THE YEAR 2200.

[@tomwolfe6063]

“An internal cannon and at least four external guns” No; that’s not right. My buddy Luke said that only the X model has 4 external guns and he would know.. He’s a Jedi.

[@mikhailbinkhidir5198]

Pesawat kebanggaan fans boy AS ini ngga berkutik... Tak ada perlawanan saat diseruduk ditantang sukhoi rusia... Memilih kabur... Seperti raptor yg kabur waktu di suriah...

[@pallabsamanta3884]

My favorite

[@delten-eleven1910]

The air brake of the F -15 has variable positions.

[@mikeshelton8920]

The F-15, regardless of variant, has many enemies. The SU-30, the SU-34, the MIG 35, the SU-35, the SU-57 and to heck with the Chinese. The last two aircraft on this list are capable of giving the F--22 Raptor a real run for it's money too. Best to do your research instead of just listening to the propaganda. I love the F-15, I think it represents America, It's a beautiful kick ass aircraft. Just like the F-4 Phantom was in her day. Well, I'm just a retired U.S. Navy Airman, still interested in those flying machines. Good day.

[@scottgalbraith7461]

This is actually a commercial for McDonnell-Douglas.

[@robertdillon9989]

Many would argue the F-16 can smoke an F-15 because it is too big and heavy

[@twolak1972]

And they would just show their ignorance. F16 is not a ASF. F15 EAGLE IS THE PREMIER ASF

[@jamesgoggle3421]

Did I miss it as well

[@mohamedbaza9573]

Have a nice day my dear friends. I greet you and I wish you a happy weekend.

[@williamfriar6295]

The new F-42 is awesome. One flew over while I was driving back from the beach last weekend.

[@winstonpetersen4401]

F42?

[@hammoohmd]

but the F-22 Raptor is the beast🔥

[@rleon8183]

F35 with its long range reach - it's almost untouchable. But I enjoy the F22's maneuverability.

[@NationChosenByGod]

@@rleon8183 Let's hypothetically say this? The F-35 can't supercruise, so the F-35 has to use fuel given its large fuel tank to travel long distances; the F-22 has a fuel tank that is not as big as the F-35, but it can supercruise which requires little to no fuel consumption. Is it logical to say that the F-22 has a better range envelope than any current fighters including the F-35?

[@1XX1]

The F15EX and its wingman, the MQ25 Stingray can chew up any Russian or Chinese city and spit it out.

[@festerbestertester1658]

Isn't the Stingray an unarmed flying gas station? Also, the Stingray is a Navy drone, not Air Force.

[@drawingdead9025]

3:25. No, just no. There is not now, nor has there EVER been, a F15 with '4 external guns'.

[@karll.masoner6918]

The real reason for the cost is the long term government policy of reducing competition in all aspects of government contracting while allowing every preferred contractor to get away with massive cost overruns which are never seriously contested. The reason for this is that Congress knew they were going to do it when they approved the contracts.

[@MH5XXXX]

I heard the video saying that it had one INTERNAL GUN AND 4 EXTERNAL GUNS. PLEASE reply to where they are?

[@arnulfomanuel6340]

Everything about a fighter plane is not cheap !!

[@pike100]

What does that mean? What are you upset about?

[@sutantotanto5895]

Betuk peswat paling sempurna siap sambar lawan lawanya ..

[@markwoods1504]

I'd say the F35 A,B and C has taken over from the F22

[@joelstanhope7231]

The F22 costs 150 million and thats too much they say , the F15e costs 120 million and thats ok . But he never says how much the F15ex costs . Im thinking more than 150 million . Thats kinda weird aint it ? And yep im for more F22s

[@ScotsmanDougal]

In a dogfight, I'll take a Mig-29 any day over a F-15. For long range, Fire and forget, i'll take the F-15

[@marcndrewez9000]

Ones of fastest jet fighter in the world....but not too expensive

[@chrismair8161]

So.. let us go through this slowly. Gen 1 was a straight wing (Shooting Star.) then the F-86 Sabre then the F-104. (Widow maker). Then the F14 Tomcat. (Takes two minds.) he who sees first kills first.