How This Player Mastered the Hardest Character In The Game to Beat Legends

[@FGCLatif]

I wanted to say a huge thank you for creating this amazing video about my journey with C. Viper at EVO 2011. I'm truly honored you took the time to highlight my story in this video . Thanks once again and wish you all the best!

[@Phoenix_1991]

You did an amazing job brother! What are you playing nowadays?

[@NerfKaiZer]

@@Phoenix_1991 mainly Strive as Zato

[@PwnerGeist]

Then you came back buffed up still surprises me to this day

[@shawnskyeviews]

When he said you felt like you could tame the beast that was C.Viper I was like duhhhh he came from old school GG. That game is HARD!😂

[@LordJackass]

He-hey! The man himself! Your performance was nothing short of phenomenal. Especially that match against Poongko.

[@ougonce]

It's a crime that Capcom designed one of the coolest fighting game characters ever and left her to rot in SF4.

[@mikeyfrance9469]

And umvc3

[@keiharris332]

​@@mikeyfrance9469Marlinpie!

[@jackg6887]

i dont think sf6 design team could do her justice, her play style would ethier be too OP or trash in SF6. Imagine FFF DR FFF drive rush

[@Retrofun69]

She is too sexy for the modern audience

[@mikeyfrance9469]

@@keiharris332 so good 😭

[@onthedre]

I wanted to be good at Viper because shes so cool but her execution is extremely hard. That dp motion just for a fake out is no joke but is literally required to make her viable.

[@tcchip]

Yeah, execution-wise Viper is absolutely brutal despite only having 3 specials. Her entire game plan depends on you being able to do frame perfect feints every time. No matter how good you are in practice, you're most likely to drop it in an actual match when it matters most.

[@onthedre]

@@tcchip doing a DP motion mid jump squat while also doing another straight afterwards is some looney toons shit

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

​@@onthedre REAL 😂

[@Nyagro]

I count that as a positive 100%. Especially today when most characters you'll ever see are in the opposite direction of literally not requiring advanced execution at all or not even having an additional skill ceiling regarding mechnical skill.

[@Dflowen]

Same. I wanted to learn but didn't put my effort. Even on day 1 arcade release. Alas time has gone.

[@Emuser012]

I knew the MOMENT I clicked this it was gonna be Latif. He visited my city arcade once in the later 2000s and mopped the god damn floor with me in SF4 and also with his Eddie in Accent Core.

[@maley335]

I didn't expect to be Latif the protagonist of this video with that thumbnail

[@TheLoneAlpaca]

he didnt die a hero

[@SeniterYT]

Tbh i can’t think of any other Viper player apart from problem x aha

[@Giraffinator]

When it comes to viper, latif was the first and only thing I could think of.

[@SeniterYT]

@@Giraffinator jayce the Ace had a decent viper, nowhere near Latif but it was good

[@lewissteward65]

@@SeniterYTwolfkorne?

[@Stormeyyy]

USF4 and UMVC3 Evo years were the most hype and had the best players weve seen!

[@blusliver6302]

Latif's C Viper, Poongko's Seth, Ai Ai's Juri, Infiltration's DeCapre, Pepeday's El Fuerte to name a few IN USF4

[@Thisisaweirdthing2makeusdo]

Agreed ❤

[@KillaBryx]

I was just about to say the same thing. Those years of EVO were straight up legendary. I used to watch that with my homies like the Superbowl. I have no idea what its like nowadays at EVO but I don't think it'll ever compare to that.

[@francisdolarhyde1866]

@@blusliver6302 Xian's Gen, Fuudo's Fei long

[@UNKNWN96]

That was around the time I started playing fighting games!

[@GuileWinQuote]

One of the best Evos ever...

[@scharaldigaming7325]

Hello GuileWinQuote

[@MrVibe-tx4rn]

GUILEWINQUOTE COMMENT ALERT

[@SimoneBellomonte]

So whats Guiles Win Quote?

[@theshadiest7109]

​@@SimoneBellomontego home and be a family man.

[@daquancurry7805]

This evo was soo fucking good so much moments man. I was rooting for poongko and latif this year.

[@Greenalex89]

Aww man, I remember the SF4 days well..The game had such nice mechanics to individualize your playstyle. Two Ryu players could play as differently as night and day. And Latif was always a blast to watch..

[@bartdude82]

Unfortunately you don’t see that same individuality in more recent times…

[@Chris-cq8gu]

5:16 Poongko hydra head being upside down is so appropriate 😂

[@TheNaturalGamer1]

Why

[@Zadamanim]

​@@TheNaturalGamer1 he's a wild card

[@twistedgambit9084]

It's like the 4 🐉 meme 😅😅😅

[@PepinoTheGreat]

Oh yeah, Street Fighter 4 revival days and that era's protagonists, I feel nostalgic but grateful at the same time: Mike Ross, F.Champ, PR Balrog, Poongko, Mago, Sako, Marn, Ricky Ortiz, Gamerbee, and the so many familiar faces. Latif is a beast.

[@Kelberoth]

facts to me, it's USF4, and I will never stop believing in Mike Ross.

[@Cerebro-on9sg]

What a Legend. I'm surprised I've never heard of this player before watching this video.

[@tiredofthisshieeet]

Still wishing they bring C Viper back one day

[@bartdude82]

She won’t be the same if in SF6. They will water down her kit so bad to cater to a wider, casual audience

[@tiredofthisshieeet]

@bartdude82 even though I don't expect her back in SF6, I would love to see it. Even if her kit doesn't mesh well with SF6 mechanics, idc. I'd rather have her slightly changed/watered down than not have her at all. Seems like they hate all the SF4 newcomers. I miss El Fuerte, Rufus and Hakan too

[@AC-LING666]

not much point you think she'd still have cross up burn kicks or cool cancel stuff, they'd probably make all that stuff way easier or just remove it

[@tiredofthisshieeet]

@AC-LING666 well if they bring her back, I doubt they'd strip EVERYTHING that makes C Viper who she is. Otherwise it's just gonna be a new character

[@fgcbird]

Here’s what we need: capcom 3D all stars. It includes sf4, umvc3, tvc, and SFxT all with rollback netcode

[@Lucas-xe8sc]

bro that would be awesome fr

[@SmashFinale]

Awesome but MAN would that be a licensing nightmare.

[@kewlnewt]

... still I'm alone want SF EX... sigh

[@noname1210hh]

you all ask for shit like this and remasters with rollback then never play it

[@anjoLas]

THE best Street Fighter made to this day. I still play it on PS3, PS4 and PC. Had a LOT of fun playing it TODAY. Thank you 4 this.

[@IAmLiquidViper]

I knew the moment I saw the thumbnail and title it was Latif. He was one of the most amazing players to watch back then and always mind blowing

[@pepperachu]

Fuudo also had the great advantage of whatching him play 3 sets and must've took notes

[@ClockTownBound]

I saw the thumbnail and literally said aloud "I pray this is about BrokenTeir Latif" And then I peeped the pinned comment

[@bartdude82]

I am so proud to say that I was around in that era to witness Latif’s C.Viper greatness. I gotta say, EVO and the FGC was such a vibe back in those days. Nothing like how it is today and I miss every second of it ✊🏽

[@MrGeneaux13]

I was watching LIVE when Latif Daigo'd Daigo..That Evo had me screaming and jumping at my computer. Upset city it was, All of Poonko, Latif beasting out of nowhere, last hope for America..Daigo getting beat after going to the dark side.. Seriously the Golden Age. LATIF!! You are a literal inspiration brotha! An Internet Legend was truly born that day

[@normalabsolutely7240]

This guy played ggxx. That game was filled with FRC point's which were 2 or 3 or sometimes 1 frame windows to cancel a special for less meter. Of course he is going to do good with the character that does the same stuff

[@GFClocked]

I knew its gonna be Latif before i even clicked on the video. Back then i played ibuki (also very technical), but i tried some viper - and people just don't even understand the level of player you need to be just to crawl with that character. I played against him in GG and, obviously i got destroyed, but felt like i achieved my dreams of playing against a pro. It was just a Tuesday for him, but it was the most important day of my life.

[@martinmaiochi]

Latif and Poongko were my biggest inspirations to start playing this game seriously. This EVO finals was easily the best one for me because of that.

[@nugieboy]

This video was made specifically for me, thanks again papa

[@EdsonDomingos-o2z]

The Moment i saw C.Viper on the thumbnail i knew this video would be a about Latif, it's been a while since we've heard from him, what a joyride this video is.

[@tailsBOOM1992]

He's in the comment section

[@chiangedison8080]

14:07 wakeup super truly a GG move

[@Smoothcarries]

“Latif”? Is what I said before opening the vid. Opened it and smiled.

[@VillainAZ]

Solid topic for this video. I'm so glad it was about Latif. His viper was so amazing, I bought the Broken Tier Latif shirt they made with the red foil that year. There were a couple points in the video where you say he made a good read or reaction jump back punish. But I'm wondering if it was actually a safe jump setup with OS superjump back. Every time it was forward throw, dash, dash, jump forward, and I think the OS was if they block the jump he lands, but if nothing connects he super jumps. He'd still need to read the direction but those seemed like educated guesses and matchup knowledge at that point. After seeing the setup a few times throughout the video I'm 90% sure it was OS. Either way, still godlike plays, and a great video as is.

[@PapaLobster]

Looking back at it I forgot how OS heavy SF4 was. I think you are 100% correct, especially on things like the Akuma Teleport catch on Tokido

[@TheShrugLife]

Hell of a video. I'm not even into these games and was absolutely invested in this story!

[@21striver38]

I only knew of Latif from Strive so this was a cool video. Had no idea some of these players have been playing for so long. Some of them still look so young.

[@TheLegendOfOblivion]

I wanted this to be about MarlinPie and his amazing combos before infinites were discovered in UMVC3.

[@kevinfoster9897]

Dang, what a throwback! Great video!

[@arthura.8836]

USF4 the hype game! Documentary level video, this brings a tear to my face. TY sir!

[@TonyTheTGR]

Take away Training Stage, and Latif vs. Poongko is the canonical ending to SF4.

[@daakrolb]

Man them were great days of Street Fighter….

[@fauxtool952]

what imfiltration did with akuma and how unstoppable he was is far more impressive

[@dewanewelch1744]

Infiltration is my fav SF tournament player of all time!!!

[@ledgy69]

Infiltration is absolutely goated

[@ShinAkuma]

Tokido was a better Akuma player. But Infiltration was a better player over all.

[@skurinski]

hardly cause Akuma is a deadbrain easy character

[@qwerty_its0296]

Guilty Gear enjoyer from Saudi Arabia, I'm not surprised

[@lancergt1000]

is GG popular in Saudi or smth

[@willo90li]

lowkey curious too what fighting game are popular in Saudi

[@Nnauels]

​@@willo90liI'm from KSA, tekken is super popular here, sf is a lil bit popular and guilty gear is niche even then there's still good players in our scenes

[@esaesaeesaesa]

It was character specialists like Latif that made SF4 a very entertaining game to watch at high level.

[@AndrewL-em9vu]

Latif and Wolfkrone styled with Viper back then and everyone tried and just whiffed ground slams all day, it was fun

[@alphonsowillis6942]

NOOOOOOO I THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA BE ABOUT UMVC3 VIPER I WAS SO HYPE edit: nvm i forgot you had a fullschedule video this shit was fire

[@GinkgoPete]

Hear ye! Hear ye! Patriarch Homarus bequeathed us with another Banger!

[@bobdobson3800]

Luong in kof15 is the closest we've gotten to having a little of viper back in a mainline fighting game 😢

[@idrissmerahi4040]

Made a similar connection myself. She’s great👌🏾 Need Viper back in SF6 tho

[@xXBladerZeroXx]

I saw the thumbnail and was hoping it was marlinpie in mvc3.

[@LiangHuBBB]

latif was so sick wish he would still be playing sf games

[@Phoenix_1991]

He may not have won EVO, but he won our hearts!

[@lordsneed9418]

watched a video about latif but instead couldn't ended up remembering how hype poongko was.

[@EdgeofNotion]

This is giving me old man memories. Viper was know for craziness but I always appreciated Vipers with smart neutral.

[@patricksreels]

He made me pick up viper back in the day. Damn what a fun character she was! Using feints to bait out safejump option selects never got old.

[@shawnskyeviews]

0:33 How did he do it? Girl old school Guilty Gear was HARD!!!!!😂😂😂 Even the hardest character in SF4 is gonna be a cakewalk lol

[@tcchip]

I guess when you already have the frame-specific False Roman Cancel timings from GGXX into your muscle memory, it's a lot easier to master Viper's feints than coming purely from an SF background. Plus the input would feel similar as well.

[@willianlopez2843]

thank you for another beautiful piece of fgc art! 🖤🖤

[@GinkgoPete]

Man Fuudo was just 2 levels above everyone that year...

[@cactusdragon3553]

I think Fei Long had just been nerfed too? Was still a top tier character though. So safe and matched Fuudo playstyle.

[@augusmnyt]

Was so cool to watch back then. Latif’s Viper is legendary.

[@mostverticalproductions4808]

2011 is still my favorite Evo. Every game and every GF was hype. There was nothing like it.

[@GusMortis]

Fuudo was playing the best i had ever seen. He was untouchable that year.

[@LarvitzTarr]

8:20 "Tokido panics and tries to teleport away but Latif reads this". Nah that was just an OS: if the meaty j.HK lands the blockstun stops the super jump to the right from coming out

[@Brian-qm8nu]

I remember on SNK vs Capcom 2, with the character 'Rock' the special "Deadly Rave NEO", if I got it 1 time on a match I would scream of joy.

[@Audreythescrub]

Seeing Latif’s frame back then without all the muscle now is so jarring lol

[@TonyTheTGR]

C. Viper needs to return *BECAUSE* she's a high-execution character. High-execution players need meat to chew on.

[@ModernWarfareMan977]

16:02 BROTHER WHAT!?!? It's insane that we ever thought this was okay.

[@Un1234l]

Thought what was okay? The DP FADC? SPD? Divekick? Air stomps? Lol

[@danielsmith5032]

@@Un1234lhe did some attack that dragged her to him

[@ModernWarfareMan977]

@@Un1234l The whole character really, but this specific interaction of pulling her full screen into that ridiculously long Crouching Heavy (I assume it's a Heavy Kick) that was at least 1.75, maybe 1.8 character models away for a full ass combo.

[@NemSumeragi]

​@@ModernWarfareMan977 That's a crouch medium kick, not a heavy kick

[@ModernWarfareMan977]

@@NemSumeragi thank you, not particularly familiar with SF4

[@TeshiKyoshi]

So growing up i wasnt good at fighting games from the young ages from 5-13/14 i got into mvc2 and snk2 around that age. Sf4 is whete i got good and i got my dudley to top 15. I was decent with nearly every character. However C.Viper is a character i couldnt get gud with. I tried and got her to B rank but what a difficult character to be good with. To all C.Viper main, kudos to you!

[@weentermakesgames759]

I'm not too familiar with this game, so please let me know. as explained on 3:08 , C viper can cancel her super jump-jumpsquat into an ultra move, for which she has only 3 frames, however, I read online that her grounded ultra move requires a double quarter circle forwards. That means the console needs to register a down, downforward, forward, down, downforward, then forward input, which in theory should mean you need at least 6 frames right (or 4 if the downforwards don't count)? Yes, obviously it is super hard to do, but the way it was explained it seems physically impossible to do in that little time, even by a TAS.

[@PapaLobster]

You end up buffering the input. So while the Crouching Heavy punch is coming out and recovering, you do the double quarter circle forward, you then end the last qcf into up forward to super jump. During those 3 frames you can press all 3 punches to get ultra. So the timing comes from when you end in upforward and press the 3 punches within the 3 frames

[@weentermakesgames759]

@@PapaLobster yeah, that makes sense! thanks for responding!

[@pmf026]

evo2011 feels like yesterday... it has been 13 years! holy funk!

[@pmcfarlin7]

Guilty Gear enough said when it comes to having execution serious players from that game have really good dexterity.

[@alluceoave]

Loved that chase down on the teleport.

[@tymtrppr3]

I remember the first time I tried to play C Viper and El Fuerte and I was so confused with their timings lol.

[@Anfmethodjor]

I love technical characters. Vyper and Gen are some of my favorite alternative characters.

[@nKaero]

Good ole C.Viper, the character who was playing a different game to everyone else. Loved watching anyone play her well, and had fun playing her though never put in the lab work to really unlock her fully. Still kinda hoping she pops up in SF6 but slim chance cause I have no idea if anyone on that team can do her justice without completely breaking SF6 apart. Nice trip down memory lane though.

[@By_the_gods]

For me Latif will always synonymous with C. Viper. That was a great tournament, and a great era for Street Fighter. That tournament was absolutely stacked.

[@AleksPizana]

This type of character should be top tier and never get nerfed.

[@kevinlove1530]

I remember watching all these matches when they happened, the hype of SF4 was unmatched. I miss UltraChen, they were the best duo.

[@kennethacuna9996]

Jeez I thought this would be a MarlinPie video 😟

[@Darknessssxz]

I owe Latif for giving me the blueprint to playing viper successfully. She was so confusing for me to pick her up because she was very unorthodox compared to the other cast.

[@MetalMusicMan]

Excellent vid!

[@SaintFaygo]

C viper was my main since launch and as a pad player it was the best journey ever

[@11FBA11]

When I saw it was about C viper, i immediately thought it was gonna be either wolfkrone or latif.

[@kingzav3s5689]

seth's arch at 14:21 is insane 😭😭

[@SeniterYT]

9:11 maybe I’m down bad, but it sounded like she’s saying…

[@JustaMan1225]

Wait, i didnt know they left her in sf4 i mean im sure she appeared in other games during that time but damn i wouldve never thought they would leave her out the roster shes literally perfection

[@xerikl]

Man Diago has been involved in so many legendary last 16 matches. Aside from moment 32, the first sf4 final (jwong v diago) is my fav

[@jkatarn]

Latiff cleared all the big names from loser’s bracket and lost to Fuudo at the end. Fuudo should thank him. But I would love to see Latiff win after all his hard work despite viper being one of my most hated character in sf4.

[@orlof507]

Next year we had like 5 fei longs at top 8. Can't remember one viper until the end of sf4

[@TheFDream]

Another lobster good one

[@TroyHanner]

You said it in the beginning, a guilty gear player , that’s all.

[@infinityGtd]

I remember watching this on KZbin so amazing time go so fast!!!

[@Shurmash]

I really love this play style. I'm more of a defense, movement, poking type of player. For me combos are the least important. I like to bait my opponents and whiff punish. Baiken and A.B.A are favorites of mine because they're more defensive oriented.

[@Harvey_Mod]

Great video

[@Gramercy666]

One of the few players that was better than Japan with a char. Ono was amazed with his c viper play.

[@SteveSmith-br3vu]

I mean coming from gear, a more technical and difficult game it doesn't surprise me he makes this happen.

[@0DarrenMeredith0]

You got something wrong she has amazing normals and she has plenty of anti air options but they are very specific. I mained viper and once you understand her normals she's incredible. Standing medium kick can counter heavy pokes and lots of jump ins if timed correctly. Back and heavy kick is an amazing anti air. Ex seismo cancel gives you enough invincibility to make crossups wiff if you have the timing. Even standing heavy punch is a great anti air depending on the character and you can also jump cancel it to bait people into doing ultra's. I think I only learnt all of her uses because I played her so much and just tried to be risky and discovered how amazing her normals are.

[@KnightlyBrosGaming]

Latif was such a joy to watch that year. I wonder what happened to him? I haven't seen his name or anything in the last couple of years.

[@bartdude82]

He’s doing great. He flew back to his country and became a bodybuilder. Looks completely different lol. I think he also flew to evo recently (can’t remember if it was ‘23 or ‘24) and competed.

[@SMGxEnWHYc46]

El fuelte just chillen & cooking

[@johnbutler2780]

That daigo combo was sick tho lol.

[@skii_mask_]

thought this was an FD Signifier b-sides for a sec.

[@Shurmash]

To anyone who doesn't know, the easiest way to input dragon punch is forward, quarter circle forward. You don't have to do the Z input.

[@noBody-ue6cs]

Its funny that latif came from guilty gear and was able to beat daigo. I feel like its revenge for daigo winning a guilty gear tournament, lol.

[@WarriorV8]

I miss the advanced tech

[@TheDrugFreeThrasher]

Anytime I come across someone good as Viper, I have the most difficult time trying to read them. I’m a Chun Li main.

[@bankbank]

shoryuken counter was a nice touch

[@citrusblast4372]

3:13 in smash they call that jump squat, and in melee bowser had the worst jump squat cause he took forever to get off the ground. in ultimate everyone has the same jump squat time

[@Un1234l]

Smash players stay proving they have bizarre naming conventions

[@chad607111]

Wait, those techniques sound almost the same as UMVC3 Dante. You can command jump to cancel a uncancelable special move and input the other special move which attacks and stops him from jumping at the same time.

[@RST_Omega]

They're similar ideas, the only real difference is instead of getting to use buttons for the jump like with bold cancelling you have to do the marvel super jump input

[@jaynyc154]

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