How to (Actually) Drop Bombs In The F-4E

[@dash0173]

"the learning curve is nearly vertical" lol that is true for the f4e. I was SHOCKED to see the manual is over 1000 pages. Utterly unreal. huge props to heat blur

[@jacobdoolan4978]

*Dive toss is the recommended version to use the bombs 0:01 intro and talks about personal phantom delays 6:26 bombing table 7:50 setting the dials (release controls) 9:12 if radar is set to 10mi, that’s good (your in dive toss mode) 10:40 first bombing run with explanation 12:00 explaining roll in method (stop rolling in early because reticle lags behind your pull)

[@Scrobbles5683]

I hope the success of your channel only goes up. I really like the pace and simplicity of how you explain things and not rapid fire the steps to the point I have to watch it ten times. It fits the speed of DCS I feel

[@Sidekick65]

I'm really glad you find it useful

[@crazykiwi1472]

As per the previous version, thankyou for videos that I can keep up with. It is heartening to know there is at least one other person that finds learning the nuances of every aspect of planes like the Viggen and the F4 to be daunting, and your channel goes a long way towards easing that burden. 👍

[@Sidekick65]

Thanks, I appreciate it. Unfortunately, the Heatblur manual is very much written as an "engineering reference" it is a comprehensive list of the functionality that is present, but not described by function. It also contains words and phrases which are clearly well understood by the developers and others with intimate knowledge of the module but which are pretty opaque to the average user.

[@VET0264]

@@Sidekick65 active airlines driver? Service flying experience??

[@VET0264]

@@crazykiwi1472 as a spook chief, radar, n nav wasn't trained technically, but was allowed in the base simulator and learned most thru that and just exploring logical driven common sense and systems testing using technical manuals.

[@Sidekick65]

Former NASA prime contractor (workes in MCC in the Shuttle era). Former artillery officer (reserve). Former aerospace industry trade association executive. No formal aircraft "operator" experience. But I have been around a few blocks a time or two...

[@VET0264]

@@Sidekick65 I get that thru you're descriptions, reasons and situational awareness is present when I watch your vids... NASA is no dummy tasking outfit... Ty for your services to our galaxy..

[@VET0264]

The red/black checker along the top of the vert stab confirms the a2a role the plane was assigned... Hello Gen. Robert C. Oaks Base Commander 81-83

[@aries144]

Great to see another video from you. I greatly enjoy the pace and content of your narration. It's informative in a way that is clear, well-ordered, and thoroughly enjoyable. Thank you for all the effort put into recording and editing this, I really appreciate it.

[@Sidekick65]

I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks so much for the feedback! It's hard to grow a channel based on quality content but this kind of feedback really helps.

[@aries144]

@@Sidekick65 Thanks for taking the time to respond! Quality content from a person passionate about the subject matter is exactly what I want. Thank you again for your excellent work.

[@FlyAndWire]

Well done (again) Sidekick!

[@Sidekick65]

Thanks

[@Hustler9g]

You remind me of "Greg's airplanes and automobiles" and thats a good thing.

[@Sidekick65]

I agree that's a big compliment. Thanks!

[@Hustler9g]

@@Sidekick65 you have a great voice and way of talking about systems in a easily digestible way. I'll have to follow for future videos

[@Sidekick65]

Hey. Please do. And tell your friends ;-)

[@aaronbaca9954]

100%. I was wondering why he reminded me of someone….

[@AnthonyAdrianAcker]

Nice hits man! Your videos are invaluable for us fresh pilots!

[@alheeley]

Thanks - easy to follow. I reckon with a drag co-eff of 1.01 you should be pretty accurate at anywhere between 20 & 40 degree dive angle. Definitely for me the most accurate way of getting the dumb bombs on target.

[@Snowy57]

Thank you very much for redoing this. I really like your teaching style Iain and look forward to your further F-4E videos.

[@Sidekick65]

It was the least I could do after mis-leading everyone in the first video. I felt badly that I had provided incorrect information.

[@michaelkphoto8344]

I like your tutorials - straight to the point and in calm delivery. 😊 Do you mind sharing the mission?

[@Sidekick65]

It's available on my Discord. There's also a video explaining how it works.

[@michaelkphoto8344]

@@Sidekick65 Excellent, thanks. 🙏

[@viniciusgalvao6270]

@@Sidekick65 Add this info in this video description, It's a very useful channel!

[@Sidekick65]

Sorry the Discord link should have been in the description. It is now.

[@southernbear736]

Great video! Only advice, next time when doing panel work, maybe zoom in, in game, rather then zooming in using your editing software only because it preserves the resolution and therefore is much easier to read the dials.

[@Sidekick65]

Thanks for the advice.

[@southernbear736]

@@Sidekick65 I'd like to just say, your videos fill an extremely unique niche and can be valuable in the DCS space. Because you look for the most "convenient" or "easiest" form of delivery for weapons it allows people not familiar with DCS to get into the Sim the smoothest, even if what they do isn't "per the manual" like with many other DCS creators. The Grim Reapers did it best for me before but for reasons you may or may not already know I now refuse to support them in any way. If you add in sections to do with key bindings and what those particular bindings are called in the "Adjust Control Menu" I think you may find a LOT of success. Examples of what I mean is sometimes you'll get situations where key bindings for modules aren't similar to each other, trigger detents are a perfect example, a specific one would be how some modules mark Nose wheel steering differently: F-16C (NWS), F-14 (Nose wheel steering, it stays on without needing to hold), Mig-21 (it is also named differently)

[@Sidekick65]

Got it. Once again. Thanks for the tips.

[@thomasfranzstockhammer7846]

Thank you for the tutorials !! Best Regards !! Lg

[@Sidekick65]

Thanks. Appreciate it.

[@billcedarheath387]

I knew something wasn’t right with the first video. I didn’t know if it was the jet or the stick actuator and had no means to figure it out. Nonetheless, glad you got it sorted out.

[@Sidekick65]

It was the jet. I asked Heatblur if there was anything I should know. They didn't mention it. A few people acted as if I should have known. Which us unfortunate. I'm glad it got fixed it would have been a shame if it had been released in that condition

[@billcedarheath387]

@@Sidekick65 Beats me how a bug like that was missed. With an experienced eye, it was easy to see something was amiss. Even though It’s been about 40 years since my last days on the Phantom, there are things that just stick in your brain.

[@Sidekick65]

To give the developers credit - the bug was discovered before release and was fixed. Some things just don't get noticed until they are tested by people outside the development team. If they had alerted me to the fact that the bug existed I would not have made the video about it.

[@slowhornet4802]

I think you made some good points about the learning curve and "get their full money's worth". I am trying to learn (and to not forget) some relative basic stuff. What I found is that the more modern modules are much more intuitive in terms of user interface. This really shows the quantum leap from e.g. an F-4E to F-14, or even more to F-16 and F/A-18. I like the older aircraft. But I found it much more difficult to memorize which switches and buttons to be set and pressed than in the modern aircraft. Nevertheless, I like the older aircraft a lot. Hoping for a Jaguar and the Starfighter.

[@Sidekick65]

Exactly. I think at least Parr of the "intuitiveness" of the newer jets is that their "user interface" is one we are all accustomed to. The older jets? Not so much.

[@straywolf77]

Good video. Could you place a link to the bombing range mission file? That BDA script is too cool.

[@Sidekick65]

The file is available for download on my discord channel. The TITS script is also available separately for download so you can make your own range missions. There is a video about that on the channel - somewhere ;-)

[@straywolf77]

@@Sidekick65 Much obliged, Sidekick65.

[@sherhansmailov2383]

I have an issue(?), when I designate I get a ~2 second input lag before Jester sets everything up. Is it suppose to be this way or am I special, please help.

[@Sidekick65]

I do see a lag, yes. I'm not sure I would say it's as long as 2s, but since there is no feed back, it feels pretty long ;-)

[@Rich_828]

Have you figured out how to use Timed Level bombing in the F-4?

[@Nibby802]

Works with release alts as high as 15k MSL. Though I’d ripple minimum of 2 or 3 to ensure some kind of damage from spread. Or beat used with gbu12s from that high because atkeast it’s in the ball park

[@OldTrucker2024]

Can you do a video explaining the axis tunes for the F-4? Struggling to figure out the correct ones. Also thank you for the trainings! You’ve earned a sub

[@LuftManu]

Excellent! Subbed!

[@Sidekick65]

Thanks. I appreciate the support!

[@splashfreelance2376]

Just what I was looking for! Thx, SC.

[@Sidekick65]

Glad it was helpful

[@thunderace4588]

Thank you Iain.

[@biggus3348]

Great job, sir!

[@Sidekick65]

Thanks

[@MedusaSquadron]

Great vid as usual. Cause I'm struggling with cluster bombs (the manual is not so clear for me about that) could You consider making a video also for this type of ammunition? Thx.

[@Sidekick65]

I will put it on the list!

[@robh4671]

complaint no 1 why did you not explain what button to press to bring up bombing table.

[@gazgazgaz2]

No CCIP or CCRP? only use the table and calcu manually ?

[@Name-ps9fx]

Correct. Similar to the A-4 is what I've heard.

[@Sidekick65]

Well, to be pedantic - no HUD. I would say that it uses a form of CCRP - as does the A-4, but the cues are not presented on the combining glass because it is not a full HUD so it may not "Feel" like teh CCRP you are used to if you fly modern jets.

[@GW2Vids1]

Impressive. How would they do it in real life with the designation?

[@jonwood8648]

excellent videos! where can one find the bombing script you use ?

[@Sidekick65]

Drop by my Discord.

[@EduardoOrusco]

Nice Vid. Well explained. Would be possible to share your mission bombing test with the script? Quite nice to train!

[@Sidekick65]

The script is available on my Discord. Drop by and pick it up.

[@EduardoOrusco]

@@Sidekick65 thanks man!!

[@VET0264]

0381 is from the 526 B flt. I personally chiefed on it, 74-0474 but assigned to 68-0264. Favorite pilot, call sign "Taco"... Thnx for my incentive flight..... Ty sidekick... Great skin lol

[@viniciusgalvao6270]

Nice video! Thanks!

[@Bryan-ty8wq]

Dumb question but what is the designate button?

[@Gunfreak19]

Jester context button. It's used for both bombing and air to air.

[@Bryan-ty8wq]

@@Gunfreak19 Thank you!

[@jep1103]

New to the channel lovely vid easy to follow and very informative

[@Sidekick65]

Thanks, I really appreciate it.

[@dpierron]

Thank you, some interesting tips here; what is the script you're using for the range dynamic stats ?

[@Sidekick65]

The mission, including the TITS script is available on my Discord.

[@javiercalvo27]

​​@@Sidekick65I need that script, where can I download It? Edit: can you put the link on Discord ? Thanks

[@Sidekick65]

It's available on my Discord channel. Drop by and ask if you can't find it.

[@rikrikietje]

Where can I get this bombing range script?

[@Sidekick65]

It's available on my Discord server.

[@nelogger]

Good stuff

[@Sidekick65]

Thanks

[@longtimber]

Wait. It cleared up!

[@ml1754]

Knew how deep the water was...classic. In real life you have that added incentive of dying...a lot of people who cheat death are called "lucky" I called them well prepared, you make your own luck. DCS won't kill you so I get your methodology!

[@alexandrebelinge8996]

Callsign Divetoss !

[@longtimber]

It's funny that you mentioned high fidelity models in a video that is so blurry.

[@travisj2370]

im glad we dont need that stupid bombing table thing in the tomcat jester has all the info in front of him already hope the update to the tomcat doesn't make us use that stupid piece of paper tho

[@richarddarkwood5408]

just ONE TIME i would like to watch a video and the content creator gets right into the topic that is the title of the video. JUST ONCE!

[@Sidekick65]

Ahh well, you probably won't find that here. Sorry about that. I prefer to explain what I'm talking about - because that matters to me. I understand if my content is not for you. Thanks for stopping by. I am sorry to have wasted so much of your valuable time.

[@richarddarkwood5408]

@@Sidekick65 its not about not for me. I need it to be straight to the point. Its not you its me. I bet your content is great. No disrespect was intended.

[@ThePizzaGoblin]

Dont think im going to get this module. Little too granular for my tastes. The F-4 is a wonderful aircraft, but im too stupid to fly it

[@rwhunt99]

I think when you get something like this early access, it gives you time to learn each system, each type of activity; you have much more time to learn it. That is my opinion but everyone is different and everyone has their patience limit. Heat Blur gets the module out much more finished than ED does though. I generally learn one thing at a time like bombing, and work on it til I feel I have a good idea how to do it, then I move on to learn something else, but I also go back and do some quick practice with the things I've already learned to keep my muscle memory working (I'm 73, so I have a lot of refreshing to do, lol)!

[@ThePizzaGoblin]

@@rwhunt99 wow! Good for you! At 73 and still flying. Good to keep your mind sharp. Respect, old timer!

[@Sidekick65]

Unfortunately I had less than 24 hours access to the module before the original release date so I tried to pick ONE THING I could say something about - only to find out that it was one of the things that was being changed for the release... sigh...

[@rwhunt99]

@@ThePizzaGoblin Well, thanks for that, lol! I do enjoy flying and while I have a lot of modules, there are just a few I fly regularly, I do recommend keeping things to a reasonable level, mine is like 5 modules, but I like to jump in and fly a few other "favorites" at least a couple of times a month.

[@benjaminnevins5211]

let's go out to the range... finally 6 minutes into the video.

[@Pwnzistor]

Skip to 6:30 to skip the blahblahblahblah

[@Aphelion79]

NEarly 7 minutes go by of saying nothing - then "use the bomb computer" and doesn't even say how to open it, finding a new tutorial =(

[@Sidekick65]

Oh please do. Sorry to have wasted so much of your valuable time. Thanks for dropping by though. Good luck

[@weed89ilt]

@@Sidekick65 LOL they for SURE are HARRIS BIDEN voters !! dumb as a box of playdoe

[@josefwitt9772]

I've done enough screwing around. Time to learn this stuff for real - so far I'm surprised how challenging I've found bombing in the F-4.